< 1189382461 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Badumtish is? < 1189382562 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1189383188 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :english spelling is _hard_ < 1189383282 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1189383336 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, "rimshot" might be horrible jargon abuse < 1189383400 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a little known fact that 97% of all english words started out as horrible jargon abuse < 1189383400 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_%28percussion%29 < 1189384092 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a well-known fact that 97% of statistics are made up on the spot. < 1189384111 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too. < 1189384202 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the equality of the two numbers have seen surprisingly little investigation, being mentioned in only 3% of the articles on the subject. < 1189384210 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*has < 1189384523 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only 3% of the articles on it have actually mentioned it? < 1189384545 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said it was surprising. < 1189384591 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1189384732 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reports SG-1 to the APS. < 1189384827 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.aps.com/ < 1189384860 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION reports SimonRC to the acronym police < 1189384864 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, http://www.apostrophe.fsnet.co.uk/ < 1189384920 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they perform mass enslavement with words like "zat'nik'tel" and "Goa'uld" < 1189384947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. you wouldn't mind coming over to norway and cleaning up those apostrophes that have blown over the north sea? < 1189384959 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can just about get away with in some of the cases, as sme of the languages have glottal stops, which are transliterated as ' < 1189384977 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :norwegian has apostrophes? < 1189385032 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's infected by english. there is probably a norwegian apostrophe extermination society somewhere... < 1189385075 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far too often people put an apostrophe before a genitive s < 1189385123 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif (and http://angryflower.com/destro.html) < 1189385130 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strictly speaking it is sometimes correct to put an apostrophe after an s, similar to english plural genitives < 1189385505 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189385858 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1189388946 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to bed < 1189388964 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is drained < 1189390509 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://abacus.kwzs.be/~bsmntbombdood/group_small.jpg // yay! < 1189390587 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: more pictures of you where we can't actually see you? < 1189390595 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course! < 1189390620 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i take abstract pictures of myself because i'm uncomfortable with my appearance! < 1189390705 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have one where you can see my ass very clearly < 1189390715 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that better? < 1189390730 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which sense of "ass" is that? < 1189390741 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's your donkey, then no, not really. < 1189390767 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have a donkey < 1189390974 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jean covered and wet gluteuses < 1189391136 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@222-154-144-189.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1189391323 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :N0BODY < 1189391665 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242436641.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1189393939 0 :ihope___!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189393944 0 :ihope___!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1189394945 0 :ihope__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1189397571 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1189398882 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1189399642 0 :nodos!n=Pedro_Ro@190.56.127.159 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189399734 0 :nodos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does esoteric programming languages have commercial use? < 1189399758 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahahaaaa < 1189399774 0 :nodos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1189399788 0 :nodos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected that :P < 1189399906 0 :nodos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :embedded systems? < 1189399918 0 :nodos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not, anyway... < 1189400173 0 :N0BODY!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreaseMonkey < 1189400199 0 :nodos!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bfed < 1189400344 0 :bfed!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :nodos < 1189400424 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189400442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1189400557 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1189400630 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189401052 0 :nodos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: think so < 1189401194 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1189402275 0 :nodos!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1189405649 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1189411199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1189411200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1189415052 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: http://abacus.kwzs.be/~bsmntbombdood/foo.jpg this looks nice < 1189415117 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://abacus.kwzs.be/~bsmntbombdood/pic_3.jpg << whish one is you? < 1189415120 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which* < 1189415680 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.10.85.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189415783 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall reading go was np < 1189415801 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also semidecidable on an infinite board < 1189415841 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1189416397 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... pi calculus is trivial, methinks < 1189416438 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e? < 1189416611 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi calculus seems to be nice background for another esolang :] < 1189416780 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1189417087 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hei oerjan < 1189417098 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hei nooga < 1189417165 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've just returned from norway :D < 1189417196 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no, Go is ("probably") harder than that, it's PSPACE-complete: http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/lr288/presentations/Go.pdf < 1189417249 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "ah" was "oh, oerjan cleared it up" < 1189417249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get to speak the language? < 1189417276 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1189417313 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what other calculi are there? pi and lambda were so trivial there aren't enough letters to keep me busy for long if the rest are the same :) < 1189417320 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i know some swedish instead >:D < 1189417341 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh! < 1189417376 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, almos all ppl in norway speak english better than me < 1189417435 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's said to be a problem learning norwegian - we switch to english if we detect you are not very good at norwegian < 1189417448 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1189417480 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well.. that's pretty much true for any language other than english... < 1189417487 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah :D < 1189417501 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in poland, ppl look at you and don't know what to do < 1189417506 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's true for finnish, swedish and german at least < 1189417508 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't speak polish < 1189417511 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha :D < 1189417512 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: try some typed lambda-based calculus, like System F or calculus of constructions < 1189417523 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... sounds nice < 1189417542 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sigfpe.blogspot.com/2007/09/type-of-distinct-pairs.html <<< was reading this, and realized i seem to have no idea what types are... < 1189417562 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but i understood the first paragraph! < 1189417654 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally you also want to look at sequent calculi for logics and the Curry-Howard isomorphism with types < 1189417683 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i guess you need that to understand the calculus of constructions < 1189417715 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just realized he might be scaring oklopol away < 1189417718 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1189417733 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, i just don't know what to google for first... < 1189417765 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a list of stuff to learn somewhere, in order of complexity... < 1189417793 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the Hindley-Milner type system used in Haskell and ML < 1189417812 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is simpler than the other two i mentioned) < 1189417817 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... can you give me a link, i'll tell you if i get it :=P < 1189417818 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1189417821 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll check that out < 1189417855 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although both languages add more on top < 1189417947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure about links, try wikipedia < 1189418676 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i deciphered a sign "kast ikke soppel i natur..." i guess it means "don't throw garbage in natural env..." :D < 1189418693 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without any help yay < 1189418719 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :) < 1189418747 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"naturen" means "the nature" < 1189418749 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kast is like cast and cast means almost the same as throw < 1189418865 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :english being what it is, i think the term is "toss" < 1189418955 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9317/dsc00087gs0.jpg this sign is also funny < 1189419110 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i have seen those signs < 1189419121 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, one of them < 1189419133 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could also decipher it! < 1189419140 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1189419149 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my swedish matriculation was today though, so might be a bit bad if i couldn't < 1189419158 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your what? < 1189419167 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :listening comprehension that is, written part is later < 1189419188 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, you don't like swedes i guess < 1189419188 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it's the tests we had @ end of high school < 1189419191 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have < 1189419210 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"exams" < 1189419215 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err yes < 1189419274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i don't like swedes, or oerjan doesn't? < 1189419304 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't care about nationality really < 1189419305 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard, that everybody in scandinavia hates them ;-) < 1189419311 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1189419320 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's quite true < 1189419329 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in my experience < 1189419337 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the swedes? well it might actually make sense < 1189419345 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup :D < 1189419355 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i find them funny and quite polite < 1189419355 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least after reading Arne Anka < 1189419398 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they talk funny ;) < 1189419439 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have those funny red houses < 1189419459 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually you find that in norway too < 1189419468 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have more black ones < 1189419469 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1189419472 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1189419482 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean in the countryside < 1189419483 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my house is gray < 1189419503 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this house is brown < 1189419514 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't go out much, eh? < 1189419537 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't go out to watch this house :) < 1189419639 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This house is made of red bricks: http://tietokilta.fi/esittely/tttalo/img/t-talo-etukulma-lahempaa_s.jpg < 1189419646 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not that I live here or anything.) < 1189419680 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, in poland i can buy 0.5l vodka, one bread and smoked fish for 50nok, in norway.... maybe one bread and some butter < 1189419683 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1189419701 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely no vodka :D < 1189419729 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe one small shot < 1189419740 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1189419745 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's euro/nok? < 1189419773 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eur/nk! < 1189419788 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er/n!! < 1189419802 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's only if u=k. < 1189419805 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 eur = 3.60 pln , 1 pln = 2nok < 1189419829 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, indeed, i failed !'s semantics. < 1189419832 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1189419859 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :euro/nok = eurø/nøk = eur/nk. < 1189419870 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eur < 1189419887 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1189419915 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you finns call it that? < 1189419923 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vowel harmony ftw < 1189419934 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, no :) < 1189419952 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in finnish, words are rarely finnified < 1189419976 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that'd require too much work < 1189420017 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard that finnish is almost as difficult as polish, if i was forced to learn polish again i would fail definately < 1189420025 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in finnish, you also couldn't even have "eur" < 1189420031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :u and can't be in the same word < 1189420037 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess with finnish it wold be the same < 1189420046 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1189420052 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would* < 1189420065 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's exactly because we have vowel harmony, i missed your line < 1189420094 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie, w strzebrzeszynie < 1189420103 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure polish is easy < 1189420106 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it fit your vovel harmony? < 1189420112 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that polish? < 1189420116 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189420117 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::> < 1189420121 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fits well < 1189420124 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's got about three-four times as many consonants as it needs, though. < 1189420126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you even have umlaut? < 1189420140 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, bad serialization there < 1189420142 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've got śćółńążź < 1189420151 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i guess you can't see them < 1189420154 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec. < 1189420161 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed not < 1189420161 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that a polish word or jsut the list of the letters? < 1189420164 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can see them < 1189420174 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*just < 1189420174 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :list of letters < 1189420178 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1189420180 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can see the third one there. (This work-box does latin-1 at the moment.) < 1189420193 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"??ó?????" < 1189420229 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : e i a < 1189420232 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never seen that unary umlaut used in ż < 1189420247 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_language#Orthography < 1189420247 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 'slashed-l' looks funny. < 1189420250 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look here < 1189420262 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(local dialect, means "i'm in 'A', too") < 1189420270 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Already opened a more reasonable terminal. < 1189420292 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"scolnazz" sounds like a word. < 1189420309 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: norwegian, that is? < 1189420319 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i though it was "school nights" :D < 1189420329 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1189420331 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189420331 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1189420392 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the most funny thing is that in polish we've got many rules, which have something about 2000 exceptions < 1189420402 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are theese rures really? :D < 1189420410 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rules* < 1189420418 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :200* < 1189420423 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, stupid kbd < 1189420468 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or many ways to say the same like: gdzie żeś ty był, gdzie ty byłeś, gdzieś ty był < 1189420483 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means exactly the same < 1189420501 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or gdzie żeś był, gdzie byłeś < 1189420527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no way to convince me it's not trivial, sorry :< < 1189420528 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := where were you (to man) < 1189420556 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you're finn < 1189420559 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1189420561 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll learn it some beautiful day < 1189420578 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, english wikipedia passed two million articles < 1189420582 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is polish anyway related to finnish? < 1189420595 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1189420601 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so < 1189420602 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish is indo-european < 1189420603 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nop < 1189420619 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not "because you're finn", it's "but you're wrong" < 1189420625 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have complex grammar < 1189420633 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like english, norwegian and swedish < 1189420638 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, and thus have a bigger brain, true < 1189420665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's huge) < 1189420679 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're used to those constructions like shit-tons of cases, genres and other thingys < 1189420755 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russenorsk LOL! < 1189420760 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't have genre! < 1189420768 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my one weakness :| < 1189420839 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh nooo < 1189420840 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gender" < 1189420849 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must go out and buy some food < 1189420908 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's just 15 noun cases, is that really a lot? < 1189420925 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen more? < 1189420941 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16? < 1189421033 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no. But not all of them are even commonly used. < 1189421081 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiply that 15 by 3 genres and 3 times and 6 person and 2 sides and add some exceptions < 1189421145 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's much easier with agglutination. just heap on more suffixes! < 1189421201 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is what we mostly do. < 1189421227 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think polish does. < 1189421228 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arrgh, because you're finns < 1189421310 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agglutinativeness makes word-based speech recognition language models work really crappily, though, since you can't get a reasonably sized lexicon. < 1189421319 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, but try to use a dictionary < 1189421325 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189421444 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my dog undestands "iść" = to go, "idziemy" = we go, "pójdziemy" = we will go and "pójdzieszyou wi" ll go, the same with wyjść, wyjdziesz, wyjdziemy (which means generally to go out) < 1189421455 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pójdziesz = you'll go < 1189421577 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, i need pójść to the shop ;) < 1189421655 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And does the dog understand the differences there? < 1189421668 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess no < 1189421680 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it understands what will happen :D < 1189421687 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after saying one of those < 1189422276 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Man who stand in frond of car is tired. Man who stand behind car is exhausted." < 1189422613 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Word-splitted the irclogs of one Finnish-speaking channel (252856 lines; one year) to see if our words actually get to be so long everyone says they do. The longest real word there was "epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydelläänsäkäänkinköhän" (52 characters), but I think that was just an example of a long word. < 1189422989 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189422998 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finnish words are long ;p < 1189423009 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sou you don't talk too much < 1189423042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... i doubt "kn" and "kin" can be in the same word, and i remember that without "kin" < 1189423069 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand it with "kin" < 1189423087 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other long words seem to be boring compound words. < 1189423114 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard "epkumarreksituteskentulaisehkollaismaisekkuudellisentelemttmyydellnsknkhn" < 1189423122 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't really find the base word there... < 1189423133 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's something i memorized when i was little < 1189423139 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1189423163 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, epkumarreksituteskenteleentovaisehkollaismaisekkuudellisentelemttmyydellnsknkhn < 1189423193 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of it seems coherent, but the beginning doesn't seem to start a word... < 1189423195 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189423198 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a cheat < 1189423213 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compound words, or mine? < 1189423214 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make one word with a meaning of whole sentence < 1189423280 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's "kahdensinekymmenensine-ensimmäisineen" as a spontaneous word in the logs, but that's just an inflected (the silly comitative case, I think) ordinal number 21, with the third-person singular possessive suffix. < 1189423285 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make an esolang whish would look like finnish words < 1189423319 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheh, 21 is famous < 1189423320 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, i love how finnish numbers inflict :P < 1189423334 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many people don't know how to do it < 1189423335 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dwudziestypierwszy in polish ;p < 1189423338 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even native < 1189423362 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 3-rd person possesive suffix it would be dwudziestegopierwszego < 1189423388 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dziewięćdziesiątegodziewiątego < 1189423401 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99th < 1189423410 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, so works like finnish < 1189423423 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, the infliction system < 1189423428 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta get foods -> < 1189423429 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess < 1189423455 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, that you map the infliction to every separate digit in the whole number < 1189423512 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1189423530 0 :Tritonio!n=Tritonio@150.140.226.66 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189423608 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan, i just bought 8 rolls for 4nok :D < 1189423618 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nie nie mowie po polsku < 1189423623 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points out that infliction and inflection don't quite mean the same thing, although given finnish both _may_ be appropriate < 1189423626 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while you can buy one roll for 10, probably < 1189423631 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polish too, i guess < 1189423654 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wiem to, ja nie mówie po fińsku :) < 1189423658 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rolls of what? < 1189423671 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from bakery < 1189423671 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: was that for me? < 1189423672 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1189423678 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1189423690 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you both begin with o < 1189423691 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1189423704 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my father has been to poland, apparently < 1189423720 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"why were you there?" "to pass the time" < 1189423737 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely enough i think i understand everything except "wiem" < 1189423738 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: my father wants to know where you live in poland < 1189423759 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: in poznan < 1189423771 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's been tehre < 1189423772 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*there < 1189423790 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hehe, wiem to = i know that.. < 1189423831 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: cool, probably 20 years aggo, when poland was in dam USSR and looked like shit ;/ < 1189423837 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn* < 1189423902 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: 1968 first, then 3 times after that, but didn't remember when < 1189423914 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1189423922 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must be horrible < 1189423939 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to remember those times ;p < 1189423973 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he was there "to pass the time", and he was there four times, i don't think it was *that* unpleasant < 1189424028 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like to go and pass the time in scandinavia ;p < 1189424033 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eg. nera indre folda < 1189424036 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :near* < 1189424107 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-5af069d2.wfd101.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1189424265 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fight with mosquitos big as tractors < 1189424266 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'[ < 1189424294 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they're huge, i just was a meter long one on my trip to school today < 1189424300 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i just saw < 1189424350 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hre, we've got small ones an they're not immune to repellents, like yours < 1189424395 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... you must have really good eyes, if they're smaller than ours < 1189424409 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i've been to norway, they're pretty pathetic there too :)) < 1189424498 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the size, it's the numbers. especially in Finnmark, i hear. < 1189424527 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(northernmost county) < 1189424674 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1189424678 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that i must agree with... < 1189424681 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must create some sandwitches < 1189424718 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember being on a car trip with my parents, we once had to stop for a while because you actually couldn't see well enough to drive < 1189424726 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of the moswuitoes < 1189424727 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*q < 1189424733 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZOMG < 1189424773 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misread "being in a car trap with my parents". That sounds interesting. < 1189424775 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"honey, today i overtook 6 mosquitos on the highway"" < 1189424897 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was cleaning the grill of my car on every stop < 1189424921 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it white again < 1189424957 0 :ehird`_!n=ehird@user-5af069d2.wfd101.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1189425002 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think insisting on a clean car in Norway is good for your sanity. although mostly because of mud, i guess. < 1189425125 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those gravel roads < 1189425129 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they suck < 1189425139 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everybody drive fast on them < 1189425152 0 :ololobot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1189425160 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1189425160 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, gotta restart < 1189425162 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*reboot < 1189425172 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and damage my precious paint with little rocks < 1189425222 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i've heard worse things about italians - apparently they consider the car bumper a tool to be used during parking < 1189425233 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189425434 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1189425459 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, the reboot... < 1189425461 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )" < 1189425619 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1189425665 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in poland, if the speed limit is 90 you go 100-110 or faster < 1189425670 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on normal road < 1189425686 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in norway, i tried to keep 80 < 1189425698 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i was afraid of police < 1189425737 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, maximal ticket is about 1000nok (eg. for driving 140 when the limit is 50 < 1189425741 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1189425792 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes the fines were increased a while ago to amounts even norwegians consider ridiculous < 1189425827 0 :ehird`_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1189425829 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-5af069d2.wfd101.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1189426327 0 :Figs!n=Figs@ip72-220-174-159.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189426336 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://digg.com/apple/Steve_Jobs_Offers_Early_Lisa_Adopters_Store_Credit <-- :P < 1189426492 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/08/iphone-hacker-headed-to-guantanamo.html < 1189426494 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is better < 1189426505 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189426577 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We couldn't have a powerful phone like the iPhone working on a speedy network. ..." < 1189426592 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...It would've become the perfect tool for fashionable terrorists. ..." < 1189426597 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLZ! < 1189426602 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I haven't seen him sleep or comb his hair for a few weeks. He usually looks like that, so I'm not too worried." < 1189426611 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROFL < 1189426614 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, normal 17-year old hacker < 1189426622 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to guantanamo?!!?!?! < 1189426647 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is ridiculous < 1189426675 0 :oklopol!i=oko@194.251.101.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189426681 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a few weeks? pssshaaw! I don't think I've combed my hair in months, let alone a *Few weeks* < 1189426691 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... hi oklopol < 1189426694 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! < 1189426707 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reboot took you a while :D < 1189426709 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://digg.com/apple/Steve_Jobs_Offers_Early_Lisa_Adopters_Store_Credit <-- you missed the fun < 1189426717 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... i played my piano a bit < 1189426718 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/08/iphone-hacker-headed-to-guantanamo.html < 1189426720 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other fun < 1189426723 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reboot? < 1189426727 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.... :P < 1189426728 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rebooted < 1189426736 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1189426740 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant me < 1189426746 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you played piano, eh? :D < 1189426759 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got anything for me? :D:D:D:D < 1189426764 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*smily overload* < 1189426853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, your piece :) < 1189426873 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^.^ < 1189426883 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i composed and learned to play a piece of my own a few days ago, but haven't touched yours for a while :) < 1189426889 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1189426892 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :) < 1189426906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really a piece, like 4 bars sofar < 1189426910 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has beaten the guru. < 1189426923 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still think it's not that hard! < 1189426931 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll do it before christmas kay? :) < 1189426935 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189426938 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say so < 1189426945 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't believe me? :D < 1189426946 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION would like to hear it still < 1189426956 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sounds... familiar... :) < 1189426965 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, yeah < 1189426979 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION will leave it at that ;) < 1189427015 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.5 pages of TODO list now < 1189427026 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ;) < 1189427033 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though it also has other random stuff) < 1189427035 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still have to finish my damned parser :sigh: < 1189427058 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been working on it (REALLY WORKING!!) since january... and I'm still not "Done" with it < 1189427064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like examples of my work-in-process conlang < 1189427064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats you can have sex with are great < 1189427064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nipofucaa < 1189427074 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm aiming for 4:1 < 1189427082 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about cats now? O_o < 1189427092 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was an example. < 1189427101 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cats you can have sex with are great == nipofucaa < 1189427115 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1189427121 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okaaay. < 1189427122 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though requires a bit of library imports first < 1189427135 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your conlang requires libraries ?! < 1189427141 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hard time interpreting pieces of text with more than one languages in them == meshnuclalnatevn < 1189427143 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are we talking about the same things? < 1189427152 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, libraries, modules, whatever < 1189427169 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conlangs like esperanto? < 1189427171 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189427191 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the hell do you have modules/libraries in a spoken language? < 1189427191 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1189427197 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one can be made considerably shorter with imports, it now has explicit library tags there < 1189427208 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-o < 1189427213 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives up understanding < 1189427219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you just have basic words in the stdlib < 1189427235 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189427236 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's "the animal module", "the programming module" etc < 1189427240 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.zompist.com/kit.html < 1189427249 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: how it works? < 1189427256 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have the same word base mean a different thing depending on the current library < 1189427258 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopolio < 1189427263 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean ? :P < 1189427295 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do yuou pronounce meshânucólalnatevênò < 1189427326 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm mainly aiming for a written language, but it's pronounced as lojban, pretty much < 1189427339 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^, and ` are always the same thing, i think < 1189427343 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any lang < 1189427347 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meash Ayn *flarg* nUUUUC AYYYYN *slpurt* laaalnatev AYRHN ghrr-g n ayrrn SPPPH < 1189427349 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1189427357 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer 'flooble' < 1189427361 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"meshânucólalnatevênò" -> "flooble" < 1189427366 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: esperanto < 1189427371 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about it? < 1189427387 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :horlogo < 1189427391 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: what's the logic there? < 1189427401 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gotta have logic! < 1189427405 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: its easier than pronouncing "meshânucólalnatevênò" < 1189427409 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats my logic < 1189427421 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only like languages with odd alphabets anyway < 1189427435 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: like apl? :P < 1189427440 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1189427443 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.zompist.com/dhitelan.gif < 1189427444 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't really care about the alphabet < 1189427445 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aq fnt brk sprtskert grfnak < 1189427479 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :çeãt < 1189427494 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meshânucólalnatevênò is easy to pronounce anyway < 1189427511 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you know how the tone stuff works < 1189427516 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it "tone"? < 1189427519 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course! You just say "meash Ayn *flarg* nUUUUC AYYYYN *slpurt* laaalnatev AYRHN ghrr-g n ayrrn SPPPH" < 1189427522 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :intonation... or something < 1189427531 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :çæj˙t < 1189427534 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ that should be a word < 1189427547 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AsholAngrrjeytamart < 1189427575 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have fun with that one :D < 1189427591 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: that supposed to be hard to pronounce? < 1189427603 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1189427606 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how anything can be hard to pronounce, just make the sounds :| < 1189427609 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's my interpretation of what you said < 1189427613 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :çæj˙t, i like that word < 1189427627 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what ç and æ are < 1189427629 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: is "a" pronounced "augh" or "ooo""? < 1189427635 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: pronounciation is language-specific. < 1189427640 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: like in "car" < 1189427655 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: see, you have to specify that. < 1189427659 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did. < 1189427662 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o caro mio < 1189427665 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo+ umop ap!s&n le+ noh ue> < 1189427681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"it's pronounced as lojban, pretty much" < 1189427683 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[try turning your head over] < 1189427772 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1189427782 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(was aiming for "heh") < 1189427826 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeq < 1189427864 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6nqwny < 1189427874 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1189427880 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can read that now \o/ < 1189427893 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :çæj't < 1189427915 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :????ll?n??? 'un? ?o pui? si si?? < 1189427919 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :és'h < 1189427923 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: do specify how that's pronounced < 1189427946 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oo? no? o? u?op-?pisdn dn ?o?s si?? s?op < 1189427946 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :çæj't is pronounced kinda like english "gait" < 1189427961 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that work, or do you guys get boxes? < 1189427968 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: question marks < 1189427976 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1189427994 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: but not exactly like it? < 1189428003 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"gait" == "gate", right? < 1189428013 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah < 1189428016 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its kind of like "gate" < 1189428019 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not really < 1189428039 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well what's different? < 1189428047 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there consonants english doesn't have? < 1189428059 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1189428060 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you say when some trips over their fence? ... His gait was off?... not really funny :( < 1189428061 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll try and find words to explain it < 1189428081 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION chuckled < 1189428085 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1189428096 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.revfad.com/flip.html <-- evil and cool together < 1189428107 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when a gate is off, is it closed? < 1189428118 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when a gait is off, is it off-beat? < 1189428179 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, just strange hooks < 1189428184 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hooks? < 1189428248 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t́ås'ɔ < 1189428251 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1189428256 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t-with-` doesn't display properly < 1189428262 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just t thent < 1189428266 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tås'ɔ < 1189428270 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1189428271 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about ɔ < 1189428283 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tås'ʌ < 1189428293 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tås'ɛ < 1189428301 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :squareee < 1189428301 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tås'ɪ < 1189428305 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :squareee < 1189428306 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :squareee < 1189428308 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1189428313 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[][][][][][] < 1189428313 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use utf-8 < 1189428314 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1189428330 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[.]_ [.] <(Balrog says "Hi") < 1189428336 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kudos if you get it < 1189428344 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION + lame ascii art < 1189428349 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tåsˌc < 1189428351 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1189428353 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ˌ is ugly < 1189428353 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: like the upper left corner of a rectangle < 1189428392 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that flip page) < 1189428429 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is [] allowed in a nick name? < 1189428433 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Figs][ < 1189428436 0 :Figs][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1189428444 0 :Figs][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm figs ][ < 1189428452 0 :Figs][!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Apple][ < 1189428454 0 :Apple][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1189428463 0 :Apple][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frozen < 1189428474 0 :Apple][!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Figs][ < 1189428480 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frozen Apples? yuck < 1189428523 0 :Figs][!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Figs < 1189428554 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :[]kl[]p[]l < 1189428556 0 :[]kl[]p[]l!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189428568 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189428579 0 :[]kl[]p[]l!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is some nick abuse < 1189428584 0 :[]kl[]p[]l!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1189428634 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0kl0p0| < 1189428645 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is | allowed? < 1189428695 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :o| < 1189428697 0 :o|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189428701 0 :o|!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check the spec < 1189428704 0 :o|!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1189428726 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| is the same as \ iirc < 1189428732 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :çæj't < 1189428733 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tås'i < 1189428734 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a speck on my cheque < 1189428745 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :çæj't is kind of like "gate", but not really < 1189428753 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :challenge: what does tås'i sound like < 1189428764 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tos.i? < 1189428772 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1189428774 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :å is "aaaah" < 1189428779 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like in father < 1189428780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so taas.i < 1189428795 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the t isn't really a t < 1189428800 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what then? < 1189428813 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the", "thick", "day"? < 1189428822 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'll try and pronounce çæj't < 1189428823 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just "t" without the implicit "h" < 1189428836 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forgot the term again... < 1189428859 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ç is kind of like a cross between "c" and hard "g" < 1189428875 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :æ is "ay" in english < 1189428876 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fig_newton2.jpg <-- I should set this as my icon < 1189428881 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j is "y" in english < 1189428898 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :' means "don't do the crazy mushing-together-consonant-stuff-on-this", so it's like a break. it is not pronounced < 1189428907 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t is kind of like a "soft" english t < 1189428914 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"reboot" < 1189428914 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"glottal stop", right? < 1189428918 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its kind of like the "t" in "th", except more pronounced < 1189428927 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ecchi! < 1189428933 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "t" in "th" can be two different things < 1189428937 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so çæj't /kind of/ sounds like "gate" < 1189428940 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not really < 1189428945 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, in british english there's a third one < 1189428948 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that make sense? < 1189428964 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i'm british, so the british english "then" i think < 1189428974 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: "the" is too soft a t < 1189428992 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the" is the exception, you seem to have a separate consonant for that.. < 1189429010 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the "t" in "the" < 1189429016 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, the "t" in "the" except more pronounced < 1189429020 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. not /quite/ as soft < 1189429024 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still soft, but now audible < 1189429028 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do pronounce on tape :) < 1189429035 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :audiobin! < 1189429037 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have trouble pronouncing it myself :p < 1189429048 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can play it in my head :p < 1189429070 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well send it < 1189429073 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :via telepathy < 1189429098 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, my comment got 86 points on reddit < 1189429109 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linky? < 1189429123 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your reddit name < 1189429143 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://reddit.com/user/ehird/ << --- ? < 1189429154 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, I read that earlier < 1189429163 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{the invisible one, right?} < 1189429166 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1189429171 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the name looked familiar < 1189429174 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I couldn't remember why < 1189429180 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION = idiot < 1189429188 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Dinner" < 1189429188 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1189429194 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.revfad.com/flip.html <<< "w" and "m" give me squares, is that because i don't have utf8 or it just doesn't know? < 1189429196 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am internet-omnipotent < 1189429196 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have (1) karma :'( < 1189429209 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: me too < 1189429429 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, çæj't and tås'i are beginning to look like regular words < 1189429437 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of exotic belches of text < 1189429445 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :text-belch, blargh! < 1189429469 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?+r < 1189429470 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1189429476 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incompatible encoding < 1189429477 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use utf8 < 1189429488 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used ascii magic :P < 1189429494 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use utf8!! < 1189429496 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1189429518 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? <-- help me find a way to make that look naughty < 1189429545 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mirror.linnwood.org/flamethrower/ < 1189429546 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1189429554 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: they looked pretty normal all along, i just don't know what they mean yet < 1189429558 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you gonna tell me :) < 1189429566 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what, they're meant to have meaning?.. < 1189429575 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they mean what they say. < 1189429580 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I just wrote words that could be pronounced in a consistent system because they looked and sounded nice. < 1189429581 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you know that? ;) < 1189429595 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :endofendobargraph. < 1189429606 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-f268975aa123786f JOIN :#esoteric < 1189429638 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello SEO_DUDE < 1189429674 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants meaning! < 1189429715 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means it's not cheesy enough. < 1189429725 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION invented a meaning. < 1189429728 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Help me develop it as a conlang then :p < 1189429745 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: Jo ho ho no ho lo ko po ho? < 1189429754 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: Ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho? < 1189429764 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ho ho ho! Sa ho ho klaus. < 1189429769 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: right after i finish my own languages :) < 1189429788 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :se ya next millenium < 1189429821 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1189429822 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1189429899 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`, you are now my friend < 1189429909 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[on reddit] < 1189429959 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D YAY AM HAPPY LOLLERSKATES. < 1189429962 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. yeah < 1189430504 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lollerscates around < 1189430731 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-73-71.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1189430991 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1189432243 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-183-005.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1189433228 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1189433230 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? < 1189434458 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Object_disoriented_Turing-completeness_proof Error!! < 1189435394 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1189435400 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the post is taking off < 1189435403 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 diggs < 1189435852 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1189435863 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-185-099.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1189435957 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1189437034 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where 14 diggs? < 1189437158 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://digg.com/apple/Steve_Jobs_Offers_Early_Lisa_Adopters_Store_Credit < 1189437160 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 now < 1189437193 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: what's the error? < 1189437203 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't load and says error? < 1189437213 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did < 1189437261 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ergh, if we could just get like, 7 ~ 10 diggs all at the same time < 1189437265 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this link would take off < 1189437268 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: i've found that article!@ < 1189437282 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1189437327 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:12 < Figs> http://digg.com/apple/Steve_Jobs_Offers_Early_Lisa_Adopters_Store_Credit <-- :P < 1189437330 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:15 < nooga> http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/08/iphone-hacker-headed-to-guantanamo.html < 1189437334 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:15 < nooga> this one is better < 1189437335 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189437339 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol i'm stupid < 1189437341 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1189437346 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1189437353 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, nothing < 1189437356 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1189437360 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189437435 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya nooga < 1189437800 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1189437811 0 :oklopol!i=oko@194.251.101.183 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189438740 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1189439002 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189440772 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heading off < 1189440772 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1189442982 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-185-099.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1189443590 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi jix < 1189443710 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: the shorter one < 1189443838 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if there's anything else PSOX needs < 1189443845 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides the builtin domains < 1189443854 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is considering removing RStrings.. < 1189443933 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits for bsmntbombdood to make his usual insult against PSOX < 1189444126 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when has bsmntbombdood ever insulted psox? < 1189444152 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you consider constructive criticism, like I give and that I've seen bsmntbombdood give related to PSOX, insults < 1189444209 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX stands for "PSOX Sucks Other's Xenophobia" < 1189444275 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho-kay < 1189444696 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blargh, I forgot whatever criticism there may have been < 1189444701 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes through logs < 1189444707 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood has only said "psox has not point", iirc :P < 1189444713 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure if that's constructive < 1189444743 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood has not a car < 1189444744 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1189444796 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1189444811 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think psox is a great idea < 1189444820 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty oklopol < 1189444856 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ti-84 makes me wanna kill myself < 1189444878 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..? < 1189444891 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the features seem to be picked completely at random, and there is no syntax that binds them < 1189444898 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything is done in a random fashion < 1189444906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which you have to check from the manual < 1189444916 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ti-84 is my oh so lovely calculator < 1189444939 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now implementing "sublist"... < 1189444945 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I should make the functions in the domains have some sort of sensible order.. < 1189444985 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you can write z80 assembler for it; there's no need to use the silly TI-BASIC. < 1189445005 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At least the TI-BASIC version my TI-86 uses is silly.) < 1189445049 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, but then again, i could just as well code python on my laptop < 1189445075 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when coding for the same of coding, it doesn't really matter what you code for... < 1189445078 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sake < 1189445123 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't know how to make the functions have a sensible order < 1189445193 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the order of the domains is sane: 0x00 and 0x01 are Pseudodomains, 0x02 is PSOX-System, 0x04 is Simple Utils, 0x06 is File I/O (note that 'F' is the 6th letter), 0x08 is HTTP (note that 'H' is the 8th letter) < 1189445206 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did floyd-steinberg error-distribution dithering with TI-BASIC once. I think it took around 15 minutes to process a single full-screen (128x64-pixel) greyscale frame. < 1189445206 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, maybe just somewhat sane.. < 1189445398 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1189445409 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not making anything with a big name, so the speed'll do < 1189445422 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1189447064 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh so tired < 1189447090 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Believe me, I can sympathise. < 1189447101 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a migraine that kept me up all last night. < 1189447658 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-99-208.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1189448342 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1189448590 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi sebbu2 and oerjan < 1189448749 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1189448749 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1189448980 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Sgeo < 1189451108 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :High! < 1189451115 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi SimonRC < 1189451124 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, "high". < 1189451132 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1189451143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lo < 1189451177 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, so I am feeling high and oklopol is feeling low < 1189451207 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a conversation topic... < 1189451239 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think everyone knows what I would suggest.. < 1189451261 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :teaching combinatorics to my ex :D < 1189451277 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a great way to train for the listening comprehension in german tomorrow... < 1189451283 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any idea what the "other side" of vore is? < 1189451289 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vore? < 1189451302 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: actually, probably best not to look it up < 1189451319 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"vorarephilia" < 1189451344 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be able to decompose that into its roots < 1189451660 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if vore is eating, the other side is exreteting? < 1189451685 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*excreting < 1189451702 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1189451716 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, vore is being eaten < 1189451717 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i think people who butcher latin grammar like that deserve to be eaten alive :D < 1189451735 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: unless they enjoy that sort of thing < 1189451775 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes joke strangely passing straight over SimonRC's head < 1189451775 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1189451799 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I caught it < 1189452641 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does PSOX need anything more, other than the builtin domains? < 1189452741 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :diiiiiiiner! < 1189453021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just domains and functions, as far as I can tell. < 1189453038 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I remove RStrings? < 1189453179 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They seem redundant.. < 1189453184 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes pikhq  < 1189453474 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is poked < 1189453479 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How are they redundant? < 1189453497 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Longstrings could be used instead. What esolang would want to send RStrings? < 1189454056 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any response? < 1189454368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point. < 1189454612 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1189454627 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For File I/O, I only need to really provide one unsafe function: Change Current Directory < 1189454637 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There would be a safe version and an unsafe version.. < 1189454662 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other file stuff needs to be in the current working directory < 1189454677 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, you'd set a directory to a number 0-255 < 1189454692 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the file stuff would refer to that number to work in that directory.. < 1189454867 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, but a user giving permission to change directory to ~ just gave it permission to do ANYTHING.. < 1189454868 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1189454936 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So scrap that idea < 1189455590 0 :ihope___!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189455596 0 :ihope___!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ihope < 1189455649 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1189456196 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eat tiles < 1189456209 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1189456263 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're tasty and healthy < 1189456345 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TILES! < 1189456415 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those from bathroom < 1189456546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEE on my TILES! < 1189456654 0 :importantshock!n=p_trick@161.253.18.113 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189457501 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi importantshock < 1189457517 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey Sgeo, what's going on? < 1189457534 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks the core of PSOX is almost finished < 1189457567 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you? < 1189457839 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hating Python web development < 1189457846 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1189457977 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is little to no documentation for anything, all the libraries are changing around daily, the Django guys are total wankers, and meanwhile Ruby and Rails are kicking our ass more and more every day < 1189458005 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't there stable versions of Django? < 1189458042 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but Django comes with a lot of things i don't like < 1189458056 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their ORM sucks compared to SQLAlchemy < 1189458070 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TurboGears? < 1189458099 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python web development is trivial < 1189458114 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby on rails does not kick python web lib's asses because it is fundamentally wrong < 1189458123 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :django guys are indeed total wankers, as are turbogears and web.py < 1189458130 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SQLAlchemy, on the other hand, scares off almost everybody with its hideously verbose table declarations < 1189458132 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlalchemy is kinda lame imo < 1189458137 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pylons is great < 1189458140 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paste and CherryPy are quite nice < 1189458143 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like pylons that much < 1189458160 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pylons seems to fit my mental model, it's simply a matter of personal preference < 1189458162 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i use my tiny little wrapper around raw wsgi < 1189458170 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but SQLAlchemy 0.4 doesn't play nice with ANYTHING AT ALL. < 1189458173 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which right now is just an extremely short object publisher < 1189458180 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm going to add sessions of some sort sometiime < 1189458201 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i run multiple sites by writing a very small (50 line) raw-wsgi script which forwards requests to different apps < 1189458206 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it all works beautifully along with fastcgi < 1189458215 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elixir, an awesome declarative layer on top of SQLAlchemy, got fucked by SA's multiple changes < 1189458217 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, and i'm still mulling over templating languages < 1189458226 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll probably write my own < 1189458228 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: i like Mako < 1189458260 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mako looks quite nice, but i want something all python < 1189458268 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll make an example of my current syntax idea.. < 1189458288 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't get what's wrong with Django.. < 1189458302 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: its bloated, its not pythonic, it sucks < 1189458331 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: They keep reinventing wheels other people have perfected < 1189458412 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pasted http://pastie.textmate.org/private/7x9wtnmmizbnlupczinznw < 1189458426 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ example of my current in-my-head syntax for the ideal templating language < 1189458447 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks! < 1189458448 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll notice that [[ ... ]] is statements and {{ ... }} expressions < 1189458455 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION clicks on that url < 1189458467 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the def blocks are naturally handled because :-ending lines add 1 to indentation in the compiled output, etc. - it's not hardcoded < 1189458483 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you could do [[ with x: ]] ... [[ end with ]] or any of those syntaxes ending with : < 1189458487 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and starting an indented block < 1189458487 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: i saw a new templating language that sort of looks like that < 1189458491 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't remember which one though < 1189458497 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :importantshock: jinja? < 1189458506 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :importantshock: if so, yeah but it doesn't use python =/ < 1189458513 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the templating engines are really overengineered < 1189458518 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: yeah, jinja < 1189458520 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implementing the one in my paste would be very trivial < 1189458683 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: on the bright side there are so many templating engines that there's probably at least one that fits your zen < 1189458690 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want to implement it < 1189458761 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i've searched but i can't find one < 1189458767 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i will just implement my syntax there < 1189458845 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a web note < 1189458855 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know some sort of basic fastcgi server i can just do: < 1189458875 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"server my-fastcgi-file.fcgi" and it'll spawn it and also run a minimal development-oriented webserver with that? < 1189458879 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :itd make testing a dream < 1189458992 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(related note on the templating language: {{var}} is escaped by default, {{func(var)}} isn't - i'll have to think about how i'm going to do that) < 1189459106 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, it seems like for SQLAlchemy 0.4 everyone just sat down and said "how can we make our library more obtuse, indirect, and difficult to learn?" < 1189459191 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :importantshock: perhaps espy's orm will suit you < 1189459196 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its an orm without the orm < 1189459210 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :orm? < 1189459219 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conn.select('*', from='table', limit=3) < 1189459228 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't decided on "where" yet but probably: < 1189459255 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like SA's query syntax < 1189459255 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conn.select('*', from='table', limit=3, where=F('field') > 3) < 1189459263 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :filter_by() is good < 1189459265 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F, of course, being a placeholder class < 1189459268 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just getting it to WORK pisses me off < 1189459281 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conn.select('*', from='table', limit=3, where=(F('field') > 3) and (F('anotherfield') == 'a')) < 1189459572 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe even: < 1189459603 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conn.select('*', from=User, limit=3, where=User.field > 3 and User.anotherfield == 'a') < 1189459646 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :importantshock: does that look good? :) < 1189459679 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't imho < 1189459685 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why the *? < 1189459702 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems too SQL-ish to me < 1189459706 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally < 1189459717 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like my queries executable from class objects < 1189459717 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with Django's way? < 1189459719 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, how about conn.select(ALL, ...) or similar < 1189459742 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing about queries from class objects is that from an OOP point of view they don't make a lot of sense < 1189459752 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :User.select_by(field=whatever...) < 1189459754 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are performing the query on the database connection, and you want instances as a /result/ < 1189459843 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah. < 1189459854 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see what you're saying, but still < 1189459862 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel an ORM should hide details of database connections < 1189459905 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from a purely aesthetic point of view, class queries are more readable < 1189459910 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does hide it quite well < 1189459920 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a database connection is still a tangible thing < 1189459927 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a thing that you perform operations on -- like selecting < 1189459943 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't "perform" a select on the type of all users... < 1189459952 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you "perform" a select on the database connection to get some users < 1189460076 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what django? < 1189460080 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where django? < 1189460084 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who codes django < 1189460086 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? :D < 1189460286 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want the database connection to be hidden < 1189460298 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have users and don't want to care about what connection i use to access them < 1189460315 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if i want to get something about users i want to use the users class < 1189460373 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1189461210 0 :importantshock!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1189462277 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should work on the domains now < 1189462306 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, simple utils should have the printy stuff, math, and a rng < 1189462363 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything else? < 1189462531 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, with the simple math stuff, what should happen with overflows in single-byte mode? < 1189462558 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Wrap. < 1189462701 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION have just hacked some community portal written by swedes ;D < 1189462754 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shooting fish in a barrel does not count as "hacking" < 1189462837 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what about div. by zero? < 1189462891 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1189462909 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, really, through blind sql injection < 1189462913 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinity! < 1189462929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you could either follow the behavior of Brainfuck, error out, or return some meaningless value. < 1189462972 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, what _does_ brainfuck do on division by zero again ;D < 1189462991 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would a status code be ok? < 1189462992 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enters while(1){} < 1189462993 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1189463002 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1189463003 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the Befunge thing: ask the user. < 1189463006 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even though the other single-byte maths don't have error codes? < 1189463007 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The typical Brainfuck division algorithm does an infinite loop on divide by zero. . . < 1189463011 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Right. < 1189463017 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Return 0? < 1189463029 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Halt? < 1189463030 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :return 0 and warning < 1189463037 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would status codes be too difficult? < 1189463042 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could always be discarded.. < 1189463050 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would 0x01 be error, or 0x00? < 1189463060 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how bdsm does it < 1189463072 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sadol !/10 < 1189463075 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM: Double division '/' by 0 (index: 1, row: 1, col: 2) < 1189463084 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wha? < 1189463144 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes pikhq  < 1189463161 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and should I add overflow/underflow status to the single-byte operations? < 1189463596 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-e43e1996cd1b22f0 JOIN :#esoteric < 1189463674 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Command to get error status? < 1189463681 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(overflow, underflow, divide by 0) < 1189463889 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why add a command? < 1189463935 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it easier to discard status that's in front of the resu;t? < 1189464101 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes pikhq  < 1189464163 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :division by zero = infinity ;) < 1189464304 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I should get going now < 1189464406 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please note the new http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox.txt and http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/esoteric/psox-utils.txt < 1189464417 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye all < 1189464428 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The psox-utils.txt isn't finished, ofc < 1189464438 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will work on that tomorrow or, if I'm lucky, later today < 1189464458 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1189466327 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1189467575 0 :Rodger-Labs!n=Rodger@scheme.csl.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1189467613 0 :Rodger-Labs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw, man- these lab machines have a terrible IRC client. <:/ < 1189467638 0 :Rodger-Labs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up, everyone? < 1189467678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much for the last hour < 1189467705 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo is working on his PSOX < 1189467770 0 :Rodger-Labs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. < 1189467800 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1189467899 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1189468746 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night"