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00:57:59 <pikhq> Out of *immense* curiosity, why are you no longer a first-class player in Agora?
01:01:05 <GregorR> Because, although you can store oerjan in a variable, you cannot pass oerjan as an argument to a function.
01:02:15 <ihope> Variable, you say? How hideous.
01:02:34 <ihope> You don't see variables hanging around in math, do you? :-P
01:03:01 <oerjan> they're just not _mutable_ variables
01:03:42 <ihope> If they're not mutable, they're not very variable, are they?
01:04:05 <GregorR> They're variables because their value depends on unknown information (generally speaking).
01:05:20 <GregorR> I love how I've prevented oerjan from actually asking the original question :P
01:05:49 <ihope> Now preventing him further would require some creativity on your part.
01:06:06 <ihope> You just provoked him.
01:06:20 <GregorR> How did I screw up "answering" for "asking"...
01:06:26 <GregorR> I mean, they're related, but yeesh X-D
01:06:28 <ihope> Wait, did I just stifle him by saying you provoked him? Oh, wait, I provoked him by pointing out the stifling.
01:06:37 <GregorR> I'm just going to call it an incredibly intense typo.
01:06:39 <ihope> They're related and start with a. Therefore, they're confusable.
01:06:58 <GregorR> Like apples and artichoke!
01:07:17 <ihope> I don't think those are quite related enough.
01:07:34 <GregorR> They're both edible plant stuff.
01:07:38 <ihope> People ask questions regularly, and they answer questions regularly, and in about the same circumstances.
01:07:51 <ihope> They don't eat apples and artichokes in the same circumstances, generally.
01:08:11 <GregorR> You've never had my famous apple-glazed artichoke apparently.
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01:11:18 * oerjan is realizing he may have to actually answer the question, despite GregorR's best attempts
01:11:30 <GregorR> Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
01:11:45 <GregorR> I did such a good job of driving the conversation away, after I had myself drug it back just for the /challenge/.
01:12:06 <GregorR> I jumped from asking/answering to apple-glazed artichokes! Give me /some/ credit!
01:13:09 <GregorR> I think I might actually have to try apple-glazed artichokes X-D
01:13:24 <GregorR> On the surface it sounds horrible, but I think it might be one of those flavor combos that shouldn't work, but does.
01:13:39 <pikhq> I'm reminded, once again, that this is Gregor. :)
01:13:50 <oklopol> "(GregorR) How did I screw up "answering" for "asking"..." <<< yep, the laws of physics prevent him to do that
01:14:33 <GregorR> Clrealy Im' incaapble fo tpyos.
01:15:12 <ihope> Like ham and pineapple?
01:15:35 <ihope> I'm trying to come up with a disgusting--oh, of course.
01:15:46 <ihope> Salisbury steak with strawberry ice cream.
01:16:08 <GregorR> pikhq: How do you deep-fry oil? That's just mixing some oil into some other oil ...
01:16:12 <oerjan> anyway, i lost interest, even cut down a lot on my internet use. of course the last year has been just one large setback...
01:16:14 <ihope> I wouldn't call deep fried oil a disgusting flavor combination.
01:16:29 <ihope> Salisbury steak with strawberry ice cream?
01:16:34 <GregorR> ihope: (Salistrawberry that is)
01:16:58 <pikhq> Well, we could try to deep-fry lard. . .
01:17:21 <GregorR> 'round these parts, we call that pork rinds.
01:17:24 <GregorR> And they're deeeeeeeeeeeeelicious.
01:17:45 <pikhq> That's fried pig *skin*, not fat.
01:18:20 <GregorR> You don't cut the fat off the skin when you make pork rinds.
01:18:38 <pikhq> BTW, I'm more just being random.
01:18:49 * oerjan is trying to remember Delirium's ice cream flavor from Sandman
01:19:58 <oerjan> ah yes, giyf. "Green Mouse and Telephone Icecream"
01:23:39 <ihope> Don't telephones contain Mercury?
01:23:45 <ihope> (Either the planet or the Roman god; I don't care.)
01:24:09 <GregorR> How to make a tasty deep-fried treat: 1) Buy ingredients: Large vat of boiling oil, dry ice and a small Filipino boy. 2) Place Filipino boy in dry ice until frozen solid. 3) Shatter now-frozen Filipino boy into boiling oil. 4) Wait fifteen minutes, drain and enjoy!
01:25:21 <bsmntbombdood> so, how can we combine a brainfuck and unlambda interpreter?
01:25:52 <ihope> Take advantage of the fact that stack-based = suffix notation.
01:26:09 <ihope> Alternatively, 0x29A.
01:27:00 <ihope> ...what are you after?
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03:14:03 <immibis> oklopol: what did you mean when you said "i found another immibis"?
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03:36:14 <oklopol> immibis: i found a guy that's a lot like you.
03:36:22 <oklopol> so much like you that i had to say it somewhere.
03:38:22 <bsmntbombdood> it was about a lesbian who pretended to be a man in order to pick up chicks, and ended up hating men because of her experiences
03:38:57 <ihope> Pretending to be a man in order to pick up chicks?
03:39:19 <oklopol> is there something weird in that? :\
03:39:21 <ihope> "I have something to tell you." "What?" "I... I'm a woman." "WHAT?" *slam*
03:39:41 <ihope> Or am I misunderstanding?
03:39:53 <ihope> I'd better read today's xkcd to make sure.
03:40:07 <oklopol> well you can do other stuff, and tell her the truth once it'll be emotionally fatal for her to leave you
03:40:39 <oklopol> i'm pretty sure someone lying about their genitals isn't that eager to get naked.
03:40:41 <bsmntbombdood> ihope: she just did it to learn about a single, het, man's relationship with women
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03:45:39 <RodgerTheGreat> It baffles me why someone would go to the internet to "pick up chicks" in the first place
03:47:22 <oklopol> RodgerTheGreat: the get them without having to go out?
03:47:59 <RodgerTheGreat> bsmntbombdood: oh, alright- that makes a tiny bit more sense
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04:50:32 <GregorR> Hmmm, is MISC supposed to increase its instruction pointer before or after branching? That is, do you branch to 0 to just branch to the next instruction, or branch to 1? ...
04:53:01 <GregorR> I'm trying to write a quick MISC interpreter.
04:53:34 <GregorR> But I don't know whether branching to 0 is a loop or a noop...
04:54:52 <GregorR> IMHO, \0\0\0\0 should be a noop.
04:55:16 <GregorR> (That continues on the next instruction)
04:55:23 <GregorR> That is, IP would increment after branching.
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05:24:09 <oklopol> math test in 40 mins, and i did not sleep
05:24:40 <oklopol> they don't teach anything in high school
05:25:44 <oklopol> i don't know if it's any use going to the test, i'm not gonna pass the course unless i do about 50 additional exercises, and i don't think i'm gonna
05:25:56 <oklopol> but then again, it can't hurt me
05:27:26 <oklopol> btw, i just installed python on my pocket pc and it has almost all the library support the *real* python has
05:27:38 <oklopol> should i idolize python or microsoft for this?
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06:50:30 <GregorR> My MISC interpreter (+ memory mapped I/O) just printed an 'A' :)
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08:10:39 <oklopol> i'm sure everyone wants to know that ;)
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16:25:25 <GregorR> Anybody want to write a MISC backend for GCC? :P
16:36:10 <GregorR> http://www.choosemyhat.com/ < WTF???
16:36:21 <GregorR> Did somebody hack my vote?!
16:37:45 <GregorR> They're all from different IPs >_O
16:38:00 <GregorR> Somebody first hacked a bunch of other systems, and THEN hacked my hat site :P
16:38:52 <oklopol> 75 votes is more than the usual daily vote amount?
16:42:11 <oklopol> tomorrow it'll get over a million.
16:45:48 <RodgerTheGreat> GregorR: well, at least you know whoever hacked your site is dedicated
16:46:02 <oklopol> i pressed a green hat and a blue one was chosen :<<
16:46:14 <RodgerTheGreat> oh, my. What would happen if somebody dugg ChooseMyHat.com?
16:46:19 <oklopol> but anyways, i already got one vote, 999997 left
16:47:03 <RodgerTheGreat> GregorR: how can your webserver stand up to a slashdot?
16:47:16 <oklopol> actually, i have 3 ip's, so i could at least get 3 votes
16:47:33 <oklopol> err...... prolly don't just ban individual ip's, but the whole... set
16:47:49 <RodgerTheGreat> actually... oh, computer lab access would be evil here
16:48:33 <oklopol> pretty easy to get 75 votes there, it's not like it's that hard to get people to press one button :P
16:50:23 <RodgerTheGreat> if I understand correctly, digg items getting onto the main page is a function of the "velocity", or rate at which something gains diggs.
16:50:42 <RodgerTheGreat> if you can get about 7 people to digg in in a few minutes, it'll hit front page and take off like crazy
16:53:27 <bsmntbombdood> hopefully new acounts don't have less weight than old ones
16:54:14 <RodgerTheGreat> hurry up with the post- I gotta leave for class in a few minutes
16:55:28 <oklopol> i haven't gotten the mail yet..
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17:03:59 <oklopol> hmm... what should GregorR hurry?
17:15:15 <ehird`> i got to #1 almost instantly
17:15:24 <ehird`> when i made The Most Pointless Site Ever
17:15:47 <ehird`> (if you weren't there: you made an account, then there was a number. there was a button to increase the number (for everyone else too) and a list of people who have clicked the most. That's it.)
17:15:56 <ehird`> it got #1 on digg for a long time
17:16:11 <ehird`> it was submitted, then the next day a few people had digged it
17:16:17 <ehird`> i had posted it on a forum i frequent
17:16:24 <ehird`> and people just ended up digging it
17:16:51 <ehird`> all in all it got over 600 diggs in total, digg used tons of scripts, and /b/ found it
17:16:57 <ehird`> so, digg's algo is kinda broken
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19:14:20 <ehird`> Context-Free Design Grammar is wow
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19:14:24 <ehird`> it has some esoterica in there
19:14:42 <ehird`> in that you can do infinite recursion as long as the part you draw gets infinitely small
19:14:47 <ehird`> which is crazy awesome
19:14:51 <ehird`> a very natural way to think about things
19:14:57 <ehird`> and must make things like the mandelbrot set trivial
19:15:21 <SimonRC> The mandlebrot self is not self--similar
19:16:36 <Sgeo> What are we talking about?
19:17:08 <ehird`> Context-Free Design Grammar
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21:35:58 <moomoo> let f be the mccarthy 91 function
21:37:47 <moomoo> please compute f(n) for every n between 0 and 100
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22:00:41 <bsmntbombdood> how am i supposed to talk about brainfuck with a teacher ?
22:02:05 <lament> maybe give your teacher flowers first?
22:05:16 <oerjan> call it brainhugsandkisses
22:12:53 <ehird`> brainsexualintercourse
22:14:28 <SimonRC> bsmntbombdood: hopefully any teacher intersted in it is the type that doesn't care about the words, just how they're used
22:17:16 <SimonRC> When talking about sex, there are few words that were not at some point a euphamism.
22:17:17 <lament> is "brain" a swear word? i don't think so.
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22:18:14 <SimonRC> "sex" was originally male/female, "make love" is a euphamism, "shag" is random, ditto "rodger" etc.
22:18:36 <SimonRC> the only non-euphamism I can think of is "fuck" itself
22:20:12 <bsmntbombdood> and the teacher in question isn't interested in it specifically, i just have to tell them what i'm working on
22:22:15 <lament> by the way, it's "euphemism"
22:24:13 <ehird`> That would be a good name for a BF derivative.
22:29:54 <bsmntbombdood> this torrent has 7991 seeders, but is downloading at 6kB/s
22:30:01 <ehird`> they are very slow seeders
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22:33:09 <lament> 7991? it can only be porn
22:33:43 <lament> linux distro? "Lesbian"?
22:38:06 <SimonRC> bsmntbombdood: is that NSFW
22:40:47 <ehird`> thats a shitload of macs
22:43:25 <ehird`> Or is it a metric fuckton?
22:45:28 * SimonRC prefers the imperial fuckton
22:46:21 <bsmntbombdood> a metric fuckton is larger than an imperial fuckton
22:47:34 <SimonRC> no, a common misconception
22:47:37 <oerjan> so now you can convert a pound to either newtons or fucktons, depending?
22:51:54 <ehird`> everything you need to know about the metric fuckton: http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1398601
22:59:00 <ehird`> i think you've got that back assward
23:00:07 <SimonRC> I could nick that for an Uncyclopedia article.
23:00:55 <bsmntbombdood> or it could be 1000/907, depending on how you look at it
23:07:50 <oerjan> i see you are using a properly shitty calculator for this
23:09:38 <lament> >>> 1111111111 ** 2 - 1111111110 * 1111111112
23:09:49 <lament> i like nice calculators :)
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23:32:42 <ehird`> you copied and pasted python interactive prompt stuff
23:33:21 <oerjan> only because he is EVIL
23:35:09 <GregorR> I made an assembly language (and assembler) for MISC.
23:35:22 <GregorR> It's fun writing assembly with only arguments, no operators :P
23:36:11 <GregorR> A taste of misc-as: 0xFF 0xFF $1 0 # Subtract 1 from the value at address 0xFF
23:36:27 <GregorR> Erm, that's /relative/ address 0xFF
23:38:06 <GregorR> What did your assembly language look like?
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23:46:37 <ehird`> Craziest reddit headline ever: Australian actresses are plagiarizing my quantum mechanics lecture to sell printers
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23:55:54 <GregorR> So, I bought an old tablet PC plus "whatever spare parts I have lying around." Apparently "whatever spare parts I have lying around" amounts to FIVE SPARE BATTERIES.
23:56:25 <GregorR> I didn't desperately need six batteries for this :P