< 1195776639 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195776959 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195777452 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195788007 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242436456.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1195788303 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195788368 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195792017 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195792021 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195792052 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195792322 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195794635 0 :immibis!n=immibis@125-236-168-115.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1195794724 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION keeps crashing firefox by playing rubicon too much < 1195794908 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1195795293 0 :TheProphet!n=rat@h69-130-5-82.69-130.unk.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195795400 0 :TheProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell a story. < 1195795510 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once upon a time there was a poor GregorR who invented a language called IRP. This eventually made many people on #esoteric angry, and has generally been considered a bad move. < 1195795553 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor would be executed for this crime. However, he has done enough good for #esoteric to have made amends for this. < 1195795584 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is, however, given forty lashes every time an IRP'er appears for his crimes. < 1195795600 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1195795617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every new IRP'er is more pain to #esoteric, which most be mended. < 1195795923 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hawt < 1195795927 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pics plz < 1195795940 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is *Gregor*. < 1195795956 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1195795964 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1195795969 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BDSM hat fetish. < 1195795983 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fap fap fap fap < 1195795984 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a pasty-white geek. < 1195796030 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i met this guy tongiht < 1195796033 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tonight < 1195796035 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEXAY < 1195796069 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I'm not pasty-white 8-O < 1195796073 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm more oddly-red. < 1195796080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1195796092 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet you would be after the lashings. < 1195796157 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are these lashings being done with? < 1195796167 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bundle of switches. < 1195796211 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1195796283 0 :immibis_!n=immibis@125-236-168-115.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1195796487 0 :immibis_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theprophet: irp is in irp < 1195796492 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1195796493 0 :immibis_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :immibis < 1195796501 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean #irp < 1195797394 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1195799988 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1195800023 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ xkcd < 1195800476 0 :TheProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1195800860 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone of #esoteric should learn morse code < 1195800877 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we should have a forum of esoteric where only morse is allowed < 1195800943 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is morse code for a question mark? < 1195800954 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION crashes firefox yet again < 1195801024 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how many people here even know rubicon exists. < 1195801036 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..--.. < 1195801046 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1195801052 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not morse code. < 1195801068 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean my "..." was not intended to be interpreted as morse code for EEE < 1195801115 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how long it would take to learn morse code to a decent speed < 1195801651 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks he's made a rubicon bubble sort. < 1195801711 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds a bug in it < 1195801859 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fixes the bug < 1195801988 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION again wonders aloud how many people in this channel know rubicon exists. < 1195802464 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I just went from "what's a packrat parser" to "my packrat parser works" in 1.5 hours. < 1195802509 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a packrat parser anyway? < 1195802536 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION asks for everyone who knows what rubicon is to say yes and for everyone else to say no. < 1195802552 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could everyone who knows what rubicon is say yes and could everyone else say no? < 1195802785 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it turns out, the reason nothing seems to describe what a packrat parser is in detail is because it's really mind-bogglingly simple. < 1195802792 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All it is is a memoized recursive descent parser. < 1195802836 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :memoized? < 1195802852 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Memoization == save the result and use that saved result if you're called again. < 1195802876 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, I don't know what rubicon is, but I'm too stubborn to just say "no" 8-D < 1195802922 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rubicon is a game based on the RUBE language. < 1195802950 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RUBE is an esoteric language based on the idea of making a program out of a Rube Goldberg machine < 1195802969 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soooo, rubicon == The Incredible Machine? < 1195802985 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can make programs in it too. i've made a 1-digit fibonacci sequence calculator and a thing to square a number in modulo 16. < 1195802989 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregorr: no < 1195802995 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :different sorts of parts < 1195803002 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kevan.org/rubicon/ < 1195803152 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rubicon uses most of the parts from RUBE. < 1195803582 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION asks gregorr if he has visited that page yet < 1195803590 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregorr, have you visited that page yet? < 1195803778 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just staring a bit blankly at it :P < 1195803790 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you write this or just find it? < 1195803834 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just found it. < 1195803839 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on http://esolangs.org/wiki/RUBE < 1195803841 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1195804210 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION almost crashes firefox for the (n^(10^(10^100)))'th time. < 1195804225 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION warns gregorr that if he tries to play it it may occasionally crash his browser < 1195804254 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and at school many people think 1^2 is 2. < 1195804271 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1195804283 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1^2 should be 3 < 1195804296 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ = 2 th pwr ov < 1195804309 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION agrees with puzzlet < 1195804317 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1^2 is clearly 3 < 1195804321 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^2, however, is 0 < 1195804373 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION means to the power of, not xor. < 1195804379 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly :P < 1195804385 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the same token, adding 1 and 2 = 0 < 1195804480 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you take it as (add (1 and 2)) < 1195804543 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodnight < 1195804548 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. If your not living on the edge, you < 1195804799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1195804800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1195816310 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1195816319 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't immibis ever here when i am < 1195816365 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, (1 and 2) = 2, (add 2) is clearly 2 < 1195818272 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195818348 0 :asiekierka!n=asiekier@nat-1.elb.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1195818353 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi! < 1195818395 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195818501 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.229.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195818529 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an idea. Doh. You'll hate it, but... Combine Deadfish, Deadfish~ and HQ9+ < 1195818618 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195818627 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195818676 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-4d5f4d82074e4c16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195818893 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1195818895 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deadfish-- < 1195818895 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i or + - incerase the accumulator < 1195818895 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d or - - decrase the accumulator < 1195818895 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s or ^ - square the accumulator < 1195818895 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o or : - output < 1195818896 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :____ < 1195818898 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C or . - output as a character < 1195818900 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h or H - say "Hello World" < 1195818902 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z - If the accumulator is non-zero, skip [the value of accumulator] commands. < 1195818904 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n - NOP < 1195818906 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X - If the accumulator is zero, halt. < 1195818908 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} - execute the next command [the value of accumulator] times. < 1195818960 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1195818961 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> - push the accumulator < 1195818961 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< - pop to accumulator < 1195818995 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 commands :O < 1195819020 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no more, no less < 1195819024 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1195819028 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you like it? < 1195819084 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++}^^>^^.<: < 1195819089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add a goto < 1195819104 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use Z as a goto. < 1195819117 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1195819126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1195819127 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't go back, and that's the point too. < 1195819136 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iiiZdddo < 1195819141 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should do iiio. < 1195819149 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1195819157 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1195819158 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh. i meant a jump backwards. < 1195819165 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. It's the point. < 1195819175 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok < 1195819181 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll add one more command to make it 13 < 1195819187 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonono < 1195819195 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no jumping backwards < 1195819196 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Z will do < 1195819197 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok? < 1195819201 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1195819202 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So < 1195819202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just remove the squaring command < 1195819206 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO! < 1195819209 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and add a (^3) comman < 1195819210 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*command < 1195819223 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S ONE OF THE MOST BASIC FEATURES! < 1195819228 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'LL BREAK DEADFISH WITH IT < 1195819235 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then we'll have 11 commands < 1195819237 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you said < 1195819239 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :square does not preserve sign < 1195819244 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1195819246 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no sign < 1195819250 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1195819254 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++}ss>ss.<: < 1195819259 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but s command will be still there < 1195819273 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no ^, but still s. < 1195819286 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now? < 1195819292 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glah. < 1195819307 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like it? < 1195819342 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a language with decrement + cubing and calculated gotos might be interesting < 1195819362 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So go and make it. < 1195819370 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't like it, make one you like! < 1195819377 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or extend/delete commands! < 1195819381 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extend the commandset < 1195819385 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :delete commands you hate < 1195820450 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello? < 1195820521 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...zorp < 1195820531 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to leave soon < 1195820539 0 :ais523!n=ais523@chillingi.eee.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195820550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta go listen to nile < 1195821237 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-053-157.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1195821322 0 :AnMaster_!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1195821973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1195822187 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195822529 0 :AnMaster_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :AnMaster < 1195825058 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1195826849 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1195827027 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1195827300 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-5440bd6b.wfd77a.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195827407 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1195827434 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-5440bd6b.wfd77a.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195827499 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195827574 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-5440bd6b.wfd77a.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195827645 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1195827705 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-5440bd6b.wfd77a.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195835311 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1195836530 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195836532 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195837657 0 :ais523!n=ais523@chillingi.eee.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1195838824 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195838826 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195839301 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-053-157.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1195839350 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been nothing but quit/join/nick messages for too long now < 1195839405 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: LIES, DAMNED LIES, AND STATISTICS < 1195839427 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely there are more sorts of lies than that < 1195839437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and besides, statistics can be used to support any viewpoint, even the truth < 1195839762 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's boring < 1195839799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could support the truth in an invalid way < 1195839818 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, like pointing out the strong negative correlation between pirates and global warning < 1195839832 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*warming, but actually I prefer the typo < 1195839844 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195839908 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global waning, global warring, global whamming < 1195839922 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global warbling < 1195839951 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global wrangling < 1195839974 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global warping, of course < 1195840033 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global harming < 1195840038 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global charming < 1195840054 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global farming < 1195840082 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global warting < 1195840097 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Local warming. < 1195840105 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global farting (by cows) < 1195840117 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to QI, termites are worse < 1195840174 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global karting < 1195840182 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :global carving < 1195840196 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never meth ane termite that farted < 1195840215 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that pun was so bad it took me several seconds to get it < 1195840217 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warming: Global < 1195840255 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i don't think we have termites in norway < 1195840290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is trying to remember what a turmite is < 1195840297 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION remembered while typing the previous comment < 1195840324 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a sort of cellular automaton in more than one dimension with movements like forward/back/turn left/turn right rather than up/down/left/right < 1195840338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Langton's Ant is possibly the most famous example < 1195840364 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd imagine so, by the name < 1195840421 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how usable-for-computation the Ant is < 1195840463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be some way to set up some sort of infinite network with the ant moving from one cell to the next to simulate some sort of universal machine < 1195840470 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a two-counter machine in the two dimensions? < 1195840499 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1195840677 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Ant is Turing complete, so the answer is "very". :p < 1195840725 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is? < 1195840730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1195840742 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought it was nothing more than a 2-dimensional Turing machine. < 1195840753 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct me if I'm wrong. ;) < 1195840762 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not just any of them < 1195840764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not all Turing machines are Turing complete < 1195840768 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a specific one < 1195840769 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. . . Oh, right. < 1195840777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise winning $25000 would have been somewhat trivial < 1195840786 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my impression from the wikipedia article is it may be unknown: < 1195840787 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True, true. < 1195840803 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other initial configurations seem eventually to converge to similar repetitive patterns suggesting that the "highway" is an attractor of Langton's ant, but no one has been able to prove that this is true for all initial configurations. It is only known that ant's trajectory is always unbounded regardless of the initial configuration < 1195840849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it _is_ always true that it turns repetitive then it cannot be TC since you could solve the halting problem < 1195840873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would prove it couldn't be TC with a finitely-many-nonblank-cells initial condition < 1195840885 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, right < 1195840888 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a repeating pattern or a nested pattern might work < 1195841133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the easiest way to get the Ant from place to place is to guide it along a one-pixel-wide path < 1195841147 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with doing this is that the path moves one pixel sideways in the process < 1195842258 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host131-86-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1195842500 0 :Jontte!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195842575 0 :Jontte!n=joonas@dsl-hkibras1-ff0ac300-216.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1195843628 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-44-45.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1195844800 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1195845481 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1195845628 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195845630 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1195846115 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1195846989 0 :luke-jr!n=luke-jr@2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d JOIN :#esoteric < 1195847005 0 :luke-jr!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1195847266 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo! < 1195847273 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah-! < 1195847281 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Creature 3 won't install! < 1195848417 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195848419 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195849416 0 :Alvin^!n=alvin@85-210-14-175.dsl.pipex.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1195850308 0 :SEO_DUDE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1195850649 0 :SEO_DUDE!i=Deee@gateway/tor/x-c3a1d60a733aa184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195851954 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah-, oO < 1195851958 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah-, will DS install? < 1195852056 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What will be the point if I can't install C3 first? < 1195852107 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why won't C3 install? < 1195852116 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've installed C3 after DS >.> < 1195852237 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just won't launch. < 1195852260 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then again, it's only the autorun on the CD. Maybe µI can just launch the install directly, thinking about it < 1195852345 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it installs. < 1195852347 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, when you get C3 installed, be sure to do Update 2 < 1195853034 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195853036 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric < 1195855545 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1195858806 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1195858808 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.160 JOIN :#esoteric