< 1198715196 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)" < 1198716907 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did Alan Turing used those ugly characters for his paper? < 1198716913 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can barely make them out. < 1198717192 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's cause he was GAY < 1198717246 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn that cockmongler! < 1198717482 0 :Slereah!n=Test4@82.126.22.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198717952 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzzzzz < 1198718362 0 :digital_me!n=digital@wikipedia/Digitalme JOIN :#esoteric < 1198719022 0 :Slereah-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198719348 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A number which is a description number of a circle-free machine will be called a satisfactory number. In §8 it is shown that there can be no general process for determining whether a given number is satisfactory or not. < 1198719351 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1198719762 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1198731523 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1198734086 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: dc < 1198734181 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the best language ever < 1198734530 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not true. < 1198734540 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are better RPN calculators, and better languages. < 1198734551 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that dc is bad; just that there's better. < 1198735334 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1198735635 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey pikhq < 1198735649 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you got your driver's license, did you get a temporary one on a slip of paper? < 1198735674 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a driver's license. < 1198735689 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I did get a temporary *permit* on a slip of paper before my permit was shipped to me, yes. < 1198735708 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm ok < 1198735929 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1198736082 0 :digital_me!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1198736447 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: lazy K uses a special encoding of streams as combinators. The program is a function from the encoding of the input to the encoding of the output. < 1198739617 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@122-57-229-12.jetstream.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1198741799 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Who keeps reincarnating sliced bread?!" < 1198742399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1198742400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1198743021 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1198745148 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198747082 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.124.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198748993 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198749279 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-49-145.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1198751291 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-63-23.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1198752256 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198761592 0 :jix!i=jix@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198762017 0 :helios_24c3!i=none@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198762513 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.19.82.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198763674 0 :helios_24c3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1198765153 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1198765161 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the size of a Python integer < 1198765163 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1198765195 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, found it. < 1198766347 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1198769082 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1198770055 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will Python assume a number to be a long integer if it goes beyond the limit, or do I have to define it as one? < 1198770359 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, apparently. It just needed 15 minutes to arrive there apparently! < 1198771823 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i thought i was in #python for a second there... < 1198771835 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does a /whois tesseracter  < 1198771881 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: python will make the int longer automagically < 1198772330 0 :helios_24c3!n=helios@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198773532 0 :helios_!i=none@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198773599 0 :helios_24c3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1198773631 0 :jix!i=jix@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198774870 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198776423 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry tesseracter. It's for esolang-related purpose. < 1198776511 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no worries. did you see the python 1-liner calculator? < 1198776541 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1198776572 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im still looking for #obfuscated < 1198776601 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that channel must be just as silly as eso when it gets going < 1198776644 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ive been looking for a good app to write in LOLCODE... any ideas? < 1198776666 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A loop that writes "DESU"? < 1198776768 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe like, a alicebot written in LOLCODE... a LOLbot? < 1198776807 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet it would be pretty good turing test competitor < 1198776844 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be impossible to distinguish from a /b/tard! < 1198776992 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't do LOLCODE. < 1198777001 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not esoteric, it's merely a crime against humanity. < 1198777365 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hai pikhq < 1198777374 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rly? < 1198777479 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My point. < 1198777496 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: LOLCODE is like a vacation after working with brainfuck. bf is a crime too, but thats why were in #esoteric < 1198777506 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I can read the language without going "WTF?" or without reading it at all, then it is not esoteric. < 1198777515 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/reading/understanding/ < 1198777544 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A real esolang? {M[m(_o)o?"Hello, world!"(_o)O.!]} < 1198777547 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: then obviously you understand LOL too much. < 1198777564 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not hard at all. < 1198777587 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLCODE is essentially isomorphic to, say, Perl or Python. Trivial. < 1198777603 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about as 'interesting' as, say, MOO. < 1198777625 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and, unlike MOO, not even remotely esoteric. Just boring.) < 1198777686 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's full of syntactic kittens! < 1198777736 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's mundane syntax, and run-of-the-mill semantics. < 1198777772 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1198777776 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with kittens. < 1198777782 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't it have more interesting things, like, say, COMEFROM? < 1198777803 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or all variables as Rubik's cubes? < 1198777858 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it wasn't invented to be esoteric. < 1198777870 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much like the name indicates, it was pretty much for the lulz. < 1198777899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hate it when people think it's 'esoteric'. < 1198777924 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, most of that, we got over months ago, since people stopped coming into #esoteric to talk about it. < 1198778054 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1198778081 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1198778178 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good morning, H. Champion Oerjan. < 1198778179 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'evening < 1198778227 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i dunno. i think its a good thing to have people being introduced to worthless coding via LOLCODE. coding just for the hell of it. do you actually want everyone coming in here 1. complaining that esolangs are worthless, 2. asking for help in their malbolge programs? < 1198778244 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why thank you H. Champion Pikhq. < 1198778283 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION begins to wish his proposals on Madness, Elephants, and Referential Titles had passed. . . < 1198778303 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Madness" to make the statement "We're all mad" TRUE, thereby overturning the courts. < 1198778309 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, Referentially Transparent Titles... < 1198778313 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elephants were going to be over there, doing the same. < 1198778322 0 :tesseracter!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was everyones first esolang they heard of? mine was java2k. < 1198778339 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably INTERCAL, long ago < 1198778351 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Referential Titles would just formalise things like "H. Champion foo" and "H. Formerly-Registered bar", and (what I'm most proud of) "Suffusion of Yellow Rishonomic". < 1198778367 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall hearing about it long before finding the esolang community < 1198778387 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine was just Brainfuck. < 1198778403 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although... No, it was Intercal. < 1198778423 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw it on some drawing on programming languages. < 1198778429 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from there I found Brainfuck. < 1198778515 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I first heard of Brainfuck. < 1198778527 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From there, I went batshit-insane. :p < 1198778629 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well clearly Unlambda was what really pulled me in < 1198778721 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is such a deviant! < 1198778816 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, for using Unlambda, you prety much have to be! < 1198778840 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's a language that's based on µ-recursive fonction. < 1198778855 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some sort of µunlambda *rimshot* < 1198778978 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since oerjan is a mathematician, we expect him to be drawn to the functional languages. < 1198778991 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since he codes in Haskell, this is only natural. < 1198779016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how can one blame him for liking the functional Brainfuck? < 1198779030 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i think i learned haskell _after_ unlambda. i don't quite remember. < 1198779058 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point remains. < 1198779080 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i had already heard of combinatory logic < 1198779109 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was wondering if one could make a weird programming language based on it - and found out i was reinventing the wheel < 1198779164 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, SKI. < 1198779239 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :may have been someone in Agora that pointed it out < 1198779283 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could be. < 1198779327 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1198779933 0 :jix!i=jix@81.163.72.218 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198779996 0 :helios_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1198780162 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I knew of the split function before. < 1198780171 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not pleasant to dig back in a code. < 1198780612 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1198780828 0 :helios_24c3!i=none@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198781200 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198781909 0 :jix!i=none@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198784018 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1198784030 0 :jix!i=jix@81.163.104.30 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198784047 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1198784554 0 :jix!i=jix@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198785449 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. A god does not need means to reach his ends. Right? He's not enmeshed in a causal framework, as we are, so he doesn't have to do thing A to make thing B happen. If he wants B to happen, it happens. < 1198785488 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So forget the "giving his son to save mankind" stuff. If his son got tortured in mortal form, it's because God wanted him tortured. < 1198785493 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1198785706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, bad god < 1198785751 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Old hat. < 1198785764 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe we can make a language out of it. < 1198785801 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the problem of evil again, really < 1198785805 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1198785826 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it be made equivalent to the halting problem? < 1198786035 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, what? < 1198786081 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Religious discussion. < 1198788732 0 :Slereah-!n=Test4@82.126.22.128 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198789795 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198790117 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1198791054 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes pikhq and GregorR et. al. < 1198791060 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone still care about PSOX? < 1198791113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Partially. < 1198791122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I'm Ploffing ATM. < 1198791126 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my mind is. < 1198791133 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My body is trying *not* to clean my room. < 1198791655 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Important question that I've asked before, but not as clearly as would be helpful: Is it possible to tell whether a process is waiting for input on STDIN? < 1198791680 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually don't think so. < 1198792056 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.19.82.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198792245 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi RedDak < 1198793565 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1198793778 0 :jix!n=jix@1337.chaosnase.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1198793782 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1198795435 0 :helios_24c3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1198795613 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1198795855 0 :oklopol!n=ville@194.251.103.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198796080 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@209.248.124.243 JOIN :#esoteric < 1198796299 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1198798844 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)