< 1202256017 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://kx.com/cgi-bin/getSoftware_new.pl?klin.zip=y damnit, none ofthem want to work
< 1202256266 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving"
< 1202256755 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which i really ought to get elliotthird.org up
< 1202256768 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, as soon as i settle on a programming language and get Nodist written...
< 1202256769 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(never)
< 1202257558 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1202257569 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does cpressey ever come by here?
< 1202257888 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net
< 1202257888 0 :sarehu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net
< 1202257953 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-3-245.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202257953 0 :sarehu!n=irc@ool-44c637dc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202257954 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+"
< 1202258465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rarely, if ever.
< 1202258622 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's his nick when he does, then?
< 1202259201 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"K-Lined by peer"
< 1202260896 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202261364 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep"
< 1202262155 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey.
< 1202262202 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1202262999 0 :Geekthras!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rafb.net/p/Ir9XSN95.html finally!
< 1202263074 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You say 'finally'?
< 1202263085 0 :Geekthras!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was bugging before
< 1202263106 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, an interpreter.
< 1202263113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only slightly harder than a compiler.
< 1202263137 0 :Geekthras!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1202263161 0 :Geekthras!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly just getting loops to work recursively
< 1202263713 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that's a nifty way to do []
< 1202263767 0 :Geekthras!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah much better than keeping track of depth
< 1202264307 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :yeknoMesaerG
< 1202264579 0 :yeknoMesaerG!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreaseMonkey
< 1202264643 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving"
< 1202264686 0 :danopia`school!n=irc@fullcirclemagazine/developer/danopia JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202264978 0 :danopia!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services.
< 1202265507 0 :immibis!n=immibis@125-236-142-87.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202266025 0 :danopia`school!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :danopia
< 1202267554 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.codu.org/pics/displayimage.php?album=4&pos=0 // how to choose a democratic candidate
< 1202267898 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. and dlte ur files. and email ths to
< 1202267925 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202267937 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha. Somebody's telomeres are eroding!
< 1202267943 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, calamari
< 1202267946 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi
< 1202268042 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what're you up to this evening?
< 1202269031 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, calamari. I plan to pick your brains for PEBBLE 2 when I code it a bit further.
< 1202269046 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1202269052 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not quite yet, though.
< 1202269060 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still got some stuff to do for my calc class. . .
< 1202277823 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving"
< 1202278200 0 :Geekthras!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey wait calamari was the BASIC2BF guy right?
< 1202278569 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BFBASIC, yes
< 1202278583 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told him he was my hero when I realized that
< 1202278620 0 :Geekthras!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that's awesome
< 1202278674 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I know
< 1202278727 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is what is great about the internet: Not only can you meet your heroes, you can find out that the dude you've been chatting with for a couple days IS one of your heroes
< 1202279178 0 :Geekthras!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah
< 1202279179 0 :Geekthras!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1202279225 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh fuck
< 1202279229 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i LOVE this album
< 1202279246 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infected Mushroom - Vicious Delicious
< 1202279501 0 :immibis!n=immibis@125-236-142-87.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202279561 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :THIS IS THE TOPIC
< 1202279706 0 :sarehu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection
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< 1202279874 0 :Geekthras!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving"
< 1202280821 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :</bsmntbombdood>
< 1202280867 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not well-formed xml on many clients.
< 1202280883 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, ones that say (bsmntbombdood) or bsmntbombdood:
< 1202280924 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh?
< 1202281069 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bsmntbombdood) </bsmntbombdood> is not well-formed xml.
< 1202281081 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor is bsmntbombdood: </bsmntbombdood>
< 1202281081 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: get a real client
< 1202281087 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<bsmntbombdood> </bsmntbombdood>
< 1202281096 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :</immibis> </oklopol>
< 1202281104 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202281126 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: how do you know what client i have?
< 1202281143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a client that shows (nick) for privmsgs
< 1202281152 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, actually i don't.
< 1202281153 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but some do.
< 1202281164 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think xchat shows nick | message
< 1202281166 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey
< 1202281201 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep yep, i just seem to have missed a few of your lines
< 1202281487 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :</immibis> </oklopol> </oklopol> </immibis> </immibis> </immibis> </oklopol> </immibis> </oklopol> <text> Just closing some xml tags that weren't closed. </text>
< 1202281487 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need a bot for this
< 1202281487 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :</immibis> </oklopol>
< 1202281487 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts netbeans (no this doesn't need a closing tag)
< 1202281487 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you already did it, didn't you?
< 1202281520 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet, no </immibis> </oklopol>
< 1202281777 0 :olsner!n=salparot@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.85.194.50.194.stunet.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202282641 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "-->" the end of an html comment?
< 1202282650 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1202282659 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and <!-- is the start
< 1202282662 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(n=salparot@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.85.194.50.194.stunet.se). <<< weh have a problem
< 1202282669 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err
< 1202282677 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, konversation fails at copypaste
< 1202282682 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :</immibis> </oklopol> </oklopol> </oklopol> </immibis> </immibis> </oklopol>
< 1202282683 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[09:13] --> olsner has joined this channel
< 1202282687 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed.
< 1202282691 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1202282714 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, i think i need to get going now, you keep up the good work! ->
< 1202282754 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was all the fuzz about?
< 1202282758 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's --> to you!
< 1202282779 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, <!-- back at you
< 1202282788 0 :XMLCloser!n=XMLClose@125-236-142-87.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202282810 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: interpreting irc client output as xml </immibis> </olsner> </immibis> </olsner> </oklopol> </immibis> </immibis> </oklopol>
< 1202282813 0 :XMLCloser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not well-formed XML! </XMLCloser>
< 1202282819 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1202282823 0 :XMLCloser!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :</immibis>
< 1202282844 0 :XMLCloser!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
< 1202282917 0 :XMLCloser!n=XMLClose@125-236-142-87.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202282922 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blah blah <xml>
< 1202282933 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<moreXML> <moreMoreXML>
< 1202282937 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: but why? it's *not* xml and shouldn't be parsed as it
< 1202282948 0 :XMLCloser!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
< 1202282950 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides to be boring
< 1202282951 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so?
< 1202282961 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :immibis[A]
< 1202282993 0 :immibis[A]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbt (be back tomorrow) tiimtza (that is in my time zone anyway)
< 1202282993 0 :immibis[A]!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :immibis
< 1202282996 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<![CDATA[
< 1202283000 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. and dlte ur files. and email ths to
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< 1202284799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended
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< 1202285883 0 :jix!n=jix@195.37.106.60 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202286678 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep"
< 1202286796 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. and dlte ur files. thx."
< 1202287550 0 :sarehu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection
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< 1202287978 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"-> work"
< 1202290899 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
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< 1202293612 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.225.230 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202294703 0 :jix!n=jix@78.47.212.92 JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1202294798 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection
< 1202295482 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202297626 0 :Figs!i=figs@dyn128-54-221-202.ucsd.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202297638 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whee!
< 1202297657 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wheeeeee!
< 1202297688 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection
< 1202297770 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wrote a silly little text adventure with absolutlely horrible style in Python :)
< 1202297778 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but it works!
< 1202297795 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it involve axes and trolls?
< 1202297796 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has about six poorly described rooms
< 1202297814 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It involves lightbulbs, pointless stairs, and vague scents of onions
< 1202297878 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, of course, I've managed to do everything by way of global variables :D
< 1202297897 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well... not everything
< 1202297902 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but more than half :)
< 1202298762 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're welcome to give it a try if you want
< 1202298764 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rafb.net/p/AWjKgu50.html
< 1202298768 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me know if you find any bugs :)
< 1202298881 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there actions apart from go somewhereN
< 1202298899 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> help
< 1202298899 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There be dragons in ye mind!
< 1202298905 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not helpful :o
< 1202298981 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, I forgot to put in a help
< 1202298993 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try playing with the lights
< 1202298998 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1202299002 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the dark hall way
< 1202299016 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I play with the lights?
< 1202299025 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"turn on the lights"
< 1202299033 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or just about any variation of that)
< 1202299048 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need an action list
< 1202299065 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also sumfin to examine the room.
< 1202299080 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type 'look' and it'll give you the description again.
< 1202299085 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like I said, it's pretty minimal
< 1202299097 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it lacks grue.
< 1202299100 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202299107 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is true
< 1202299146 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you figure out how to get outside?
< 1202299159 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the goal?
< 1202299178 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There isn't really a goal in this, but I guess that's as close to a goal as there is
< 1202299196 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, without an action list, it's hard to know what to do.
< 1202299208 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it you haven't played H2G2 :)
< 1202299244 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried to play "Nine Princes in Amber"
< 1202299252 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll remember to add better hints when I write the next silly version
< 1202299252 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has like three pages full of actions
< 1202299258 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee hee
< 1202299304 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zelazny.corrupt.net/NPiA/man8.html
< 1202299334 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, fight scenes! http://zelazny.corrupt.net/NPiA/man5&6.html
< 1202299351 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm grateful for being born in the age of computers with actual graphics.
< 1202299370 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl
< 1202299389 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nine princes in Amber had graphics, sort of.
< 1202299400 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A pixelated picture on top of every text
< 1202299418 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah
< 1202299424 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've played a couple games like that
< 1202299450 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there was one based on the Xanth novels...
< 1202299468 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also one on Discworld!
< 1202299471 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It bugged me because there were things in the picture that the game didn't know
< 1202299475 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The very first Discworld game
< 1202299492 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Althoguh it was maybe pure texgt
< 1202299494 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot
< 1202299499 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't play long.
< 1202299502 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol
< 1202299512 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pretty much "Light of magic" in video game form
< 1202299529 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Light of Magic?
< 1202299539 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, first Discworld novel
< 1202299549 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's some other name
< 1202299552 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot
< 1202299552 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I haven't read the Discworld novels. :o
< 1202299566 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should.
< 1202299569 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The old ones are good!
< 1202299583 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back then, it was silly med fan.
< 1202299587 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll consider it, if I ever come across them.
< 1202299597 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The video games are also good
< 1202299634 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you get outside?
< 1202299653 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I typed "exit" to see what it would do!
< 1202299658 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm just wondering if other people are as silly as me)
< 1202299659 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got outside the game :O
< 1202299661 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh...
< 1202299662 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha
< 1202299664 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1202299682 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't the outside I meant. I should probably add a quit guard for the next version
< 1202299694 0 :sarehu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection
< 1202299704 0 :sarehu!n=irc@ool-44c637dc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202299710 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why not a save system while you're at it!
< 1202299719 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh shit, I lost my hours fo games!"
< 1202299851 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not enough in the game to have a save system
< 1202299860 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it'd be fairly easy to do
< 1202299865 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yay python)
< 1202299898 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1202299950 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At this point, I'd be a bit more interested in improving the parser and structure of the game before I worry about something like saving
< 1202299965 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you look at the code, you'll see it's totally awful
< 1202299966 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'd worry about the game itself!
< 1202299970 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha :)
< 1202299980 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's true -- it's awful too
< 1202300004 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's easier to build a better game with a better base than to fight the base for every inch of game... at least past a certain point ;)
< 1202300068 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an example of a good game : http://www.somethingawful.com/d/flash-tub/tub-adventure.php
< 1202300179 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm halfway between considering doing a silly game and sorta serious game
< 1202300199 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, the example I made was very silly... :)
< 1202300217 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urk
< 1202300219 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 4 am
< 1202300226 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what am I still doing up? :P
< 1202300258 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 1 PM here
< 1202300266 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have to check out your flash game tomorrow
< 1202300278 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need sleep... *zombie*
< 1202300290 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks for helping me debug :)
< 1202300323 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good night then!
< 1202300454 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Java user signed off"
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< 1202301368 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1202302964 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep"
< 1202303599 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success
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< 1202303817 0 :sarehu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection
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< 1202305777 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.202 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202307033 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"-"
< 1202310593 0 :ehird`!n=ehird@user-54453ccd.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202310636 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202310939 0 :helios24!i=chaos@bytefight.org JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202311606 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric
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< 1202313090 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wana.at/vimshell/sshot1.png wow
< 1202313094 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could run emacs -nw inside vim
< 1202313096 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or vim inside vim
< 1202313142 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about emacs inside emacs?
< 1202313152 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that but it's not as funny
< 1202313157 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION frequently runs bash inside bash, but thinks it doesn't really count
< 1202313166 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs -nw<RET> M-x term<RET> emacs -nw<RET>
< 1202313193 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes it works./
< 1202313203 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works infinite levels
< 1202313214 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, until you run out of memory or some other resource
< 1202313223 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't everyone use turing machines?
< 1202313261 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's funny going through a file -- the line/col indicator syncs with an offset on them all
< 1202313262 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202313370 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202313536 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i was going to tell you something today; but i forgot.
< 1202313548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still trying to write uudecode in BF
< 1202313557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as the anarchy golf deadline is almost up
< 1202313580 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... 1 min left. I won't finish it that quickly
< 1202313647 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really need to get some info pages up about anagolf
< 1202313651 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly for my own sanity! :p
< 1202313664 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's done
< 1202313665 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1202313668 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can still submit!!
< 1202313672 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people can just read your code.
< 1202313685 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby one is nice
< 1202313686 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puts gets(gets).unpack'u'
< 1202313694 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but could be
< 1202313701 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puts gets(nil).unpack'u'
< 1202313714 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puts [*$<].join("\n").unpack"u" # longer i think though
< 1202313715 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, because they have to skip the first line, I think
< 1202313729 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, yes
< 1202313730 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok.
< 1202313737 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems most languages have uudecode built in
< 1202313754 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://golf.shinh.org/reveal.rb?uudecode/51b/1202143066&erl if you could translate this non-lib-using erlang into bash..
< 1202313765 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://golf.shinh.org/reveal.rb?uudecode/pooq/1202119366&ijs nice J code :)
< 1202313772 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah
< 1202313775 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this might be easier to translate:
< 1202313776 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x;n;main(d,c){for(gets(c);c=getchar()-32,c<65;)x=c*x>0?d=d<<6|c&63,!n?n=6:putchar(d>>(n-=2)):!x;}
< 1202313807 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that brainfuck entry cheats in some kind of fscked way: http://golf.shinh.org/reveal.rb?uudecode/nuko%28cheat%29/1201122618&bf
< 1202313823 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe exploiting the interp used??
< 1202313841 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s re(re).u"u" # i love how pointless goruby is
< 1202313854 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1202313860 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 hours til rot13 is done
< 1202313872 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can see my brilliant winning Perl entry
< 1202313892 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless someone else equals it it'll be the first time I've won anagolf outright in Perl
< 1202313902 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :)
< 1202313924 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should learn ruby, it might not be as good at general text manipulation at perl, but it's good at *golfing* text manipulation, and arithmetic
< 1202313926 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my bash entry worked on the same principle, BTW, but someone beat it
< 1202313942 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably using an entirely different approach
< 1202313960 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, how does that brainfuck entry work?
< 1202313975 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be a buffer overflow aimed against the interp
< 1202313989 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, my multiply entry is great
< 1202313992 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby version:
< 1202314011 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p eval gets.gsub(",","*")
< 1202314021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's basically how my Perl version works
< 1202314029 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is presumably the same as everyone else's, being the same length
< 1202314042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y/,/*/ and eval
< 1202314086 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly ruby version:
< 1202314087 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!ruby -p
< 1202314087 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$_=eval gsub",","*"
< 1202314114 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that reminds me of Perl a lot
< 1202314118 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does $_ have the same meaning?
< 1202314175 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1202314180 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with #!ruby -p
< 1202314187 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is less surprised at that
< 1202314222 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ruby-talk.org/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/179642
< 1202314229 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the design of ruby :-)
< 1202314256 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which appears to be down
< 1202314269 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1202314271 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hello, ping
< 1202314275 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pong
< 1202314281 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1202314285 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my interwebs are dying
< 1202314297 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha
< 1202314298 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/179642
< 1202314318 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's why ruby can do perly stuff like that
< 1202314336 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with its crazy ambiguities like "no parens required on function call" and all that, it can beat perl quite a lot
< 1202314344 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp+Perl isn't the first language combination I would have thought of
< 1202314374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... from that I'd guess that Perl would be better for the very short programs and Ruby for the slightly longer ones
< 1202314383 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of golfing potential
< 1202314666 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you would be suprised
< 1202314714 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, it's Lisp->simplified&syntaxed->tiny object system->some syntactical sugar->smalltalk->perl, but prettier
< 1202314756 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope you can write to $*
< 1202314761 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to use it as a stack :-)
< 1202314775 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$* = obsolete method of controlling /m on regexps?
< 1202314782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or am I thinking of something else?
< 1202314869 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1202314872 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$* = command line arguments
< 1202314874 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like bash
< 1202315149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... /query ais523 actually works, and acts like cat
< 1202315222 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1202315229 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it amounts to
< 1202315237 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::ais523blahblah PRIVMSG ais523 :hi
< 1202315247 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your client looks for a window for ais523blahblah
< 1202315250 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and inserts the message
< 1202315268 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?RPN+calculator this will be interesting
< 1202315268 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202315269 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is my brainfuck auto-indenter not working?
< 1202315329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ehird`: you should have made one of the examples much longer to hold off cheats
< 1202315340 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, i guess so
< 1202315341 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
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< 1202315445 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why does anagolf have netcat but no net
< 1202315445 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
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< 1202315905 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what an open-source codegolf/anagolf blend would be like
< 1202315914 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like to see a blend, actually
< 1202315915 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :User-centric like anagolf, but more polished (e.g. 'testing scripts')
< 1202315923 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people could submit their own challenges but with test case generators
< 1202315929 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and open source, unlike codegolf -- also less central and administrated
< 1202315931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a reference implementation to compare to
< 1202315936 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would also count as the first entry
< 1202315963 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I would do it but take a look at anagolf's code: http://golf.shinh.org/sag.tgz
< 1202315972 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'd like to see tags like (cheat) and (embed) as part of the system
< 1202315972 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't hope to write something that crazy, it'd just end up insecure
< 1202315981 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it counts (sym) and (bin)
< 1202315983 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can have separate cheat and noncheat tables
< 1202316000 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and autodetection of if something is a cheat
< 1202316006 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. look for file reads on quine programs
< 1202316018 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but seriously, look at anagolf's code... it has a seperate server and stuff!
< 1202316037 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and watch.c is crazy
< 1202316038 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hasn't looked at the code yet, but is not surprised it's that complicated
< 1202316043 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it *overrides syscall*
< 1202316051 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally. in libc.
< 1202316061 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could make a simpler version which used nothing but interpreted languages
< 1202316070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use the sandboxing features of the interps
< 1202316077 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most interps have crap sandboxing/.
< 1202316080 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with a chroot.
< 1202316088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in cases of langs like Brainfuck, you could write a sandboxed interp yourself)
< 1202316100 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl allegedly has a sandboxing module that can be used
< 1202316103 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I've never tried it
< 1202316148 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, anagolf started in 2007? i thought it was older
< 1202316210 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1202316395 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, I think I got the BF indenter working
< 1202316507 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets to work on a BF strip-comments program
< 1202316519 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an enhancement to my esolang Emacs package
< 1202316531 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :THIS IS NOT THE TOPIC
< 1202316537 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that includes the Unlambda code I showed you before, among other things
< 1202316624 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason, I keep pressing g rather than f in the word 'buffer'...
< 1202316922 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: tee hee, i'm writing a genuine evil c compiler
< 1202316922 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1202316923 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiles to ruby
< 1202316942 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along the same lines as my 'simple language' compiler?
< 1202316946 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1202316950 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and presumably the postscript one
< 1202316951 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but less involved
< 1202316974 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1202316979 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think this parses differently in ruby than in c
< 1202316980 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :      if (n%3==0 && n%5==0)
< 1202316999 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1202317000 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1202317002 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in line 22, at the end
< 1202317014 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference?
< 1202317098 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not sure
< 1202317103 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the == and && bind differntly
< 1202317110 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/894031 here's my code so far
< 1202317110 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-)
< 1202317120 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl deliberately chose to use the same operator precedences as C to avoid confusion
< 1202317198 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wait
< 1202317203 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :else if -> elsif
< 1202317203 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-)
< 1202317208 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr... why do KDE and Gnome apps spout lots of garbage to stderr when run under the other window manager?
< 1202317233 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, it worked!!!!
< 1202317264 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, there's an error in the RPN problem
< 1202317266 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/894033 final version
< 1202317270 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there
< 1202317271 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap
< 1202317272 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the examples uses 'mod' as infix rather than postfix
< 1202317272 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it
< 1202317278 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh crap
< 1202317279 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1202317292 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you submit one the same but called rpn calculator(FIXED) andwith that fixed? or am i going to have to do it myself :P
< 1202317315 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :submit the fixed version, say it's a fix in the description, and maybe shinh will remove the unfixed version
< 1202317330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even if not, people will know what's happened and hopefully aim only for the new one
< 1202317377 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah, "prdeff"
< 1202317380 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it caught my "int" :)
< 1202317491 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://pastebin.ca/894040 shorter but less robust compiler
< 1202317503 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c is quite trivial! ;)
< 1202317522 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, when it doesn't use many language features
< 1202317532 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ones it does are implemented in the target language with much the same syntax
< 1202317582 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my BF comment stripper is working now as well
< 1202317604 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: make a long rpn example and i'll add that ;P
< 1202317647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loads up dc
< 1202317672 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just using my commands and semantics though!
< 1202317678 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1202317689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm writing \np\n rather than p, and restricting myself to + - * /
< 1202317784 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1202317785 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ^
< 1202317786 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mod
< 1202317794 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I didn't use those
< 1202317799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I could have, I suppose
< 1202317801 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay
< 1202317805 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :involve floating point somehow
< 1202317807 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not bignums
< 1202317809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have
< 1202317810 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or bigfloats
< 1202317815 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. only trivial floating points
< 1202317826 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :preferably, double-fitting
< 1202317888 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://pastebin.ca/894042 this yours?
< 1202317898 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1202317910 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it invoked from my .emacs
< 1202317919 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still a work in progress, though, so it's only a paste for now
< 1202317924 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does it highlight idioms differently? :D:D
< 1202317928 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll notice bits of it are commented out because they don't do anything
< 1202317930 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like [-]
< 1202317931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: only a few idioms
< 1202317936 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg \o/
< 1202317937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[-] is one of the ones that is highlighted
< 1202317945 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and [-]+++++++++++ (etc)
< 1202317950 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing else in BF yet
< 1202317956 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also
< 1202317962 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, +-/<>/,./[] all have different colour schemes
< 1202317963 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re: "macros should be done with lambda and quote"
< 1202317968 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you ALREADY have required macros:
< 1202317970 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cond
< 1202317974 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :defun
< 1202317977 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambda
< 1202317987 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And even if you made THEM functions taking quotes -- you have one final special form
< 1202317988 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote.
< 1202317998 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, well I may as well write idiomatically given the existence of the language
< 1202318000 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and once you have that, it's purest not to make it a special case, and allow extension.
< 1202318007 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no -- i mean, in general
< 1202318009 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just in your code
< 1202318031 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also -- get rid of your nested ifs, use cond :)
< 1202318035 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(quote ...) seems really wrong to me
< 1202318043 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although '(...) is fine
< 1202318047 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's syntax.
< 1202318049 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax is wrong.
< 1202318053 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'(...) is very modern!
< 1202318058 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i mean very
< 1202318060 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its recent
< 1202318062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why, really, it's just like d in Unlambda: it goes so strongly against the grain of the language
< 1202318069 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1202318080 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes against the grain of the language you prefer which is wildly different from lisp
< 1202318086 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1202318087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if something looks like a function, I get surprised when it isn't
< 1202318101 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(x ...) does not look like a function.
< 1202318102 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry.
< 1202318108 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+ 1 2)
< 1202318108 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, how's the rpn example going?
< 1202318111 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like a function call to me
< 1202318116 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: finished, but I haven't pasted it yet
< 1202318119 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe it does, but that's not what (...) means
< 1202318120 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to when you interrupted
< 1202318158 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/894058
< 1202318163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ==== separates the input and output
< 1202318168 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure about the last case, though
< 1202318177 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe we should change it to something that doesn't end .0
< 1202318189 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because dc's precision rules are likely to be different from those to many other languages
< 1202318248 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think yours is a bit too obscure, yeah
< 1202318254 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't allow efficient implementation
< 1202318260 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just get rid of the last case and we'll be fine
< 1202318272 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ais523 -- that's still far easier to cheat than to do correctly
< 1202318282 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really?
< 1202318306 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah!
< 1202318331 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, we have a few lines of output, some of which are similar enough that they could be combined with some trickery
< 1202318338 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas an rpn calc impl isn't that trivial
< 1202318356 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose so...
< 1202318367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you could always get out dc and type in a lot more commands
< 1202318424 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is still working on the uudecode-in-BF
< 1202318491 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so .0 or not .0?
< 1202318502 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't generate any test cases with trailing 0s
< 1202318511 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make them all come out exactly in decimal so as to avoid precision problems
< 1202318515 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby outputs as .0 actually.
< 1202318519 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/
< 1202318520 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting
< 1202318529 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably because the output had been floating-point-ised
< 1202318538 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl doesn't though
< 1202318555 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll just have to make sure that the digit after the decimal point is nonzero in every test case
< 1202318565 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK
< 1202318569 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so - 482.3
< 1202318598 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?RPN+calculator+FIXED
< 1202318683 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.sh: line 3: dc: command not found
< 1202318692 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity, I was hoping to make a really short bash entry
< 1202318700 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by using sed to compile into dc first
< 1202318702 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try:
< 1202318704 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ls /
< 1202318706 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ls /bin
< 1202318709 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff
< 1202318711 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see what youcan do
< 1202318732 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a question
< 1202318739 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there any implementation of TURKEY BOMB? :)
< 1202318743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no
< 1202318746 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started work on one once
< 1202318755 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got further than you would think possible looking at the spec
< 1202318761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but gave up after a while
< 1202318780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, I think it's possible to interpret the ambiguities in the spec in such a way as to make it Turing-complete
< 1202318804 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-46-56.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202318863 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :void* TURKEYBOMB = &TURKEYBOMB; /* the whole point! */
< 1202318863 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Allo allo allo :P
< 1202318870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1202318882 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: probably not the best way to do it :P
< 1202318891 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just following the spec
< 1202318894 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know
< 1202318895 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean
< 1202318898 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a TURKEY BOMB is most definitely a reference to itself
< 1202318915 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct tb { struct tb *val; } TURKEY_BOMB;
< 1202318919 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1202318920 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the TURKEY BOMB itself actually becomes relevant anywhere in the code because there's no way to access it, but it has to exist
< 1202318924 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct tb { struct tb *val; } *TURKEY_BOMB;
< 1202318927 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then initialize like so:
< 1202318932 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :char junk[15 - sizeof(void*) * 3]; /* a TRIVIA is exactly 15 bytes, no exceptions. */
< 1202318938 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURKEY_BOMB=malloc(sizeof(*TURKEY_BOMB));
< 1202318943 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURKEY_BOMB->val = TURKEY_BOMB;
< 1202318945 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the code is littered by that sort of thing
< 1202318959 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ehird`: why would you use malloc when you can use compile-time initialisation?
< 1202318966 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's a pointer.
< 1202318966 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1202318969 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you can access TURKEY BOMB like this:
< 1202318970 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TURKEY BOMB
< 1202318975 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can compile-time initialise a pointer
< 1202319004 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, if you follow the Paradigm then you have to do crap with the TURKEY BOMB
< 1202319013 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you pass it round
< 1202319016 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the instruction pointer
< 1202319022 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and..how
< 1202319039 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you pass it from one player to another when certain events happen in-game
< 1202319048 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's how you implement conditionals and loops
< 1202319065 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how did you implement ZILCH?
< 1202319070 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :void ZILCH[0]?
< 1202319075 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typedef void ZILCH;
< 1202319087 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pfft
< 1202319088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMICED was more interesting
< 1202319088 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202319094 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm yes
< 1202319095 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't actually an AMICED datatype
< 1202319098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rather NEGATIVE_AMICED
< 1202319102 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant
< 1202319111 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is stored in any PUDDING that doesn't contain the AMICED in question
< 1202319113 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two thirds of a bit plus half a trit.how did you do that :-|
< 1202319125 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stored it as a 2-bit int
< 1202319126 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with padding
< 1202319149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are semantics that make it act vaguely like the spec requires
< 1202319153 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's enough for me
< 1202319217 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any turkey bomb programs?
< 1202319219 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even worse: struct HUMIDOR <class T1,T2,T3>
< 1202319225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ehird`: not as far as I know
< 1202319228 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the spec is so ambiguous
< 1202319237 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: uhhhh, C++?
< 1202319238 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eep.
< 1202319241 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1202319249 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seemed fitting somehow
< 1202319252 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1202319277 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, what esolang needs an implementation but seems hard to give one? :-)
< 1202319281 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, twoducks! ;)
< 1202319291 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some thought on writing a twoducks implementation
< 1202319303 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would try out lots of testcases to try to get the timeline consistent
< 1202319309 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort-of brute forcing a timeline that works
< 1202319315 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh :)
< 1202319327 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had an idea for a Scheme-omega implementation
< 1202319337 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would introduce a type, MAYBE
< 1202319344 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no constructor, but is of the form:
< 1202319346 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE a b
< 1202319353 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :H would always return MAYBE #t #f
< 1202319375 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the truth value of MAYBE a b is:
< 1202319380 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a and b, #t
< 1202319384 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not a and not b, #f
< 1202319395 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise, MAYBE (truth-value a) (truth-value b)
< 1202319413 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if when given a MAYBE would also give a MAYBE etc
< 1202319433 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no IO, but if you wanted it it would just require you to choose a branch and stick to it if we ever 'might' execute some IO :)
< 1202319454 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the end it would just dump out all the 'maybe's and exit
< 1202319473 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, my idea for TC TURKEY BOMB was to define the ! command to take two of the trit parts of the BI_ITs, and calculate their maximum value, returning it in binary-coded-ternary in the bit parts
< 1202319483 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would shortcircuit from left-to-right
< 1202319511 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would like to see a brainfuck interp in TURING BOMB
< 1202319560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you then place a pointer dereference to generate one of the BI_ITs, it will skip the next player's turn at the right moment to cause everything to work correctly
< 1202319604 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://it.geocities.com/tonibin/owl/owl.html is this in the esolang wiki?
< 1202319607 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :successor to bogusforth
< 1202319609 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a \2 \x) (a a \x) ^L b (\\x) ^L GARNISH GARNISH x ^L c
< 1202319626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what I have in my notes as TURKEY BOMB for if(a = 2) b; else c;
< 1202319645 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's heavily abbreviated; the 2 actually refers to four advisories that together dereference to a variable containing 2
< 1202319655 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ^L is the formfeed character
< 1202319674 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why formfeed?
< 1202319681 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't quite remember
< 1202319691 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from context I guess it means 'next player's turn'
< 1202319697 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure why I chose that character in particular
< 1202319711 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, ehird`, the page you linked says that it's a stub on esolang
< 1202319720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A small hook is still present at esoteric.voxelperfect.net, and precisely here"
< 1202319721 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe it's each player?
< 1202319743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skipping a player's turn is how you do control flow
< 1202319747 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that, and garnishing
< 1202319771 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :control flow is nondeterministic but that example generates a loop which can only be escaped by the right combination of random events happening
< 1202319868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the code itself is deterministic but the length of time it takes to run isn't
< 1202320040 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely unrelated:
< 1202320048 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vim's scheme indentation is as good as emacs' :|
< 1202320051 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, it handles everything
< 1202320053 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy
< 1202320067 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh
< 1202320070 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything except 'if'
< 1202320071 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O
< 1202320151 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs's is buggy on ifs in do blocks, i hear
< 1202320176 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well, it indents if like so:
< 1202320177 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if a
< 1202320178 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  b
< 1202320181 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :  c)
< 1202320183 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. doesn't align them
< 1202320188 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is arguably nicer, actually
< 1202320254 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to indent then and else relative to if in do blocks, i heard it doesn't
< 1202320415 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how much interest is there in a PEBBLE-alike, but self-hosted, with lisp syntax and lisp macros?
< 1202320431 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by self-hosted?
< 1202320455 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is written in itself.
< 1202320467 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes languages like that
< 1202320467 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a seperate, less featured compiler solely for the purpose of bootstrapping, in some other language, of course
< 1202320481 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... interest level=? :)
< 1202320489 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you have several bootstrap compiles
< 1202320494 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*compilers
< 1202320503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one written in BF to compile the one written in selfhost1
< 1202320514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the selfhost2 compiler is written in selfhost1
< 1202320526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the selfhost3 compiler is written in selfhost2, and so on, until you have the whole language
< 1202320541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the numbered selfhost langs are subsets of the full lang
< 1202320573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even better, if you had a lang like CLC-INTERCAL that could modify itself dynamically, you could create new syntax with one line and use it with the next
< 1202320587 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... maybe there should be a lang whose only primitive is the one to define new syntax
< 1202320597 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the standard library boots up from there
< 1202320609 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLC-INTERCAL does that but cheats by relying on a very rich syntax for defining new commands
< 1202320626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(effectively you write bytecode implementations for them, where the bytecode machine is defined elsewhere)
< 1202320639 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, that's crazy :)
< 1202320647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?
< 1202320654 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is there a lot of interest in the idea i actually said?
< 1202320655 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202320664 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really
< 1202320677 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you could write 'macro' in Lisp then it would get more interesting
< 1202320694 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but.. it's pebble, but cooler
< 1202320695 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::<
< 1202320696 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, actually implement the 'macro' keyword using only macros
< 1202320705 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's practical!
< 1202320873 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so was Titanic.  and unsinkable, too!
< 1202320889 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry :) )
< 1202320891 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, well, mine's lispy :(
< 1202320908 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's PEBBLE, but with sane syntax, and more powerful macros
< 1202320909 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1202320916 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the Titanic was made from Lisp, it would have sunk almost instantly
< 1202320923 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parens are terrible at being waterproof
< 1202320934 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't nail together at all well
< 1202320967 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it had been made from Haskell, it would have refused to leave the harbour...
< 1202320982 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they used GHC.
< 1202320984 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafePerformIO.
< 1202321065 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should have made it from Whitespace
< 1202321087 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeApproachIcebergs
< 1202321104 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: approaching the iceberg was safe
< 1202321108 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hitting it and sinking was not
< 1202321274 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah but they used unsafeApproachIcebergs rather than approachIcebergs which checks for ice underwater as well
< 1202321283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does unsafePerfomIO do?
< 1202321316 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafePerformIO :: IO a -> a
< 1202321318 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202321328 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also enables writing of
< 1202321330 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that tells it all, really :)
< 1202321331 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coerce :: a -> b
< 1202321335 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :)
< 1202321350 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and presumably just runs the IO command whenever it happens to be executed, whether that's 0 or more than 1 times in the program?
< 1202321374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR C++ has a 'coerce anything to anything else' operator
< 1202321379 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it just happens... whenever
< 1202321382 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sometimes fails at runtime when you try to use it
< 1202321383 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no guarantees
< 1202321393 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might work, depending on the weather
< 1202321417 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: more or less, except you cannot predict whether it is called more often, or exactly when
< 1202321468 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the compiler treats it as if it is pure, and assumes it can be shared/duplicated like pure code
< 1202321472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION feels justified in their incorrect belief that 'Haskell just evaluates things at random until the program is complete'
< 1202321490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps me to write correct code, anyway, even though evaluation order is meant to be defined
< 1202321511 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really defined
< 1202321518 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the report says 'non-strict evaluation' and leaves it at that
< 1202321521 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the successor to Underload is going to use that evaluation strategy; a strict/lazy mix depending on what the compiler feels like
< 1202321536 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compiler or interpreter
< 1202321573 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how we all refer to underload as a static kind of language
< 1202321583 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if it didn't act really self-modifying :)
< 1202321594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it isn't self-modifying
< 1202321596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just self-assembling
< 1202321731 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1202321736 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not how it was viewed, before
< 1202321791 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr... anyone know of an online BF interpreter that allows characters other than <>+-[],. in the program and that doesn't error out on EOF?
< 1202321883 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, should i write one
< 1202321902 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR oerjan pointed me to one before, but I can't remember where it was and Google isn't showing it up
< 1202321909 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :writing one may be faster
< 1202321920 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it has to have debug features that show the tape as well
< 1202321925 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise there are plenty
< 1202321970 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i've made one
< 1202321970 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a job for me, if only i had my awesomejsframework written
< 1202321982 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some php scribblie
< 1202321985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: where is it?
< 1202321994 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vjn.fi, in applications, i think
< 1202321998 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls the bf online interpreter he found stopped working after a while
< 1202322001 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure, it seems i've been banned from there :)
< 1202322002 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in bash, ais523
< 1202322004 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that won't be good :)
< 1202322016 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Drop+first+line bash entry: read;cat
< 1202322037 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: they stole your url submitter! http://vjn.cc/ :p
< 1202322054 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: how did you end up banned from it?
< 1202322065 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that isn't an online interpreter running there, but rather its source code
< 1202322116 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl submission:
< 1202322118 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<>;print<>
< 1202322185 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: vjn.cc is ours
< 1202322186 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202322197 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wut
< 1202322207 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should not be its source...
< 1202322222 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have no idea why i'm banned, one day i just couldn't load the page from this ip anymore
< 1202322223 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, I was wrong
< 1202322229 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is running there
< 1202322234 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the link to it says 'download'...
< 1202322238 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD
< 1202322239 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah
< 1202322247 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the interface currently only allows that
< 1202322266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :php shit will go into "tools", later
< 1202322290 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a shame you don't know finnish, the english-finnish converter owns ass :)
< 1202322875 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1202322935 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@75-166-178-76.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202323219 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wanna help me debug my rpn calc?;)
< 1202323225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like
< 1202323229 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe
< 1202323230 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going wrong?
< 1202323247 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/894140
< 1202323255 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my output on the fisrt is
< 1202323255 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4
< 1202323256 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERR
< 1202323256 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4
< 1202323257 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5
< 1202323265 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1202323267 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i eff up on ^
< 1202323270 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not the main problem
< 1202323296 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, well
< 1202323298 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just messes up
< 1202323299 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1202323333 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what code do you get if you print out $_ rather than evalling it?
< 1202323340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and isn't the $_= in the last line rather redundant?
< 1202323373 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if eval sets $_
< 1202323381 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1202323382 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to set it
< 1202323387 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1202323388 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point
< 1202323390 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the puts does all your output
< 1202323417 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first compiles to:
< 1202323418 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$*<<2; $*<<2; $*<<$*.pop+$*.pop;puts$*[-1];\n
< 1202323418 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$*<<0; if(x=$*.pop)==0;puts'ERR'else $*<<x/$*.pop end;puts$*[-1];\n
< 1202323418 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$*<<1; $*<<$*.pop+$*.pop;puts$*[-1];
< 1202323426 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1202323430 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should base it on the whole input
< 1202323434 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, the error is that you still run the next puts() after a division by 0
< 1202323441 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh
< 1202323446 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easily fixed
< 1202323461 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gsub"/\n","/ "
< 1202323462 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202323473 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did the interp work? or did you try it
< 1202323476 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit
< 1202323478 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only kind of works.
< 1202323481 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the first test
< 1202323485 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I tried it
< 1202323495 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i either ran a thue interp in it, or ran a brainfuck interp in my thue interp
< 1202323497 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm
< 1202323497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked but wasn't very useful for my purposes because all it displayed was the output
< 1202323500 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it was the latter
< 1202323507 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, i see
< 1202323518 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just something i did to learn php
< 1202323520 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is stuck on debugging the input code for their BF uudecode
< 1202323574 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, it's weird
< 1202323575 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i get
< 1202323580 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntax errors.
< 1202323582 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1202323583 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't handle
< 1202323584 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.
< 1202323584 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202323621 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test.rb:10: (eval):1:in `-': nil can't be coerced into Float (TypeError)
< 1202323621 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :	from (eval):1
< 1202323622 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-|
< 1202323632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack underflow
< 1202323636 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I wonder what caused it?
< 1202323690 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$*<<9.2; $*<<0.1; $*<<$*.pop+$*.pop;puts$*[-1];\n
< 1202323690 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9.3\n
< 1202323690 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$*<<$*.pop-$*.pop; $*<<5;puts$*[-1];
< 1202323693 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it gets up to
< 1202323742 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that compiled code you show looks like a stack underflow to me
< 1202323759 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, the example is wrong AGAIN!
< 1202323761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry
< 1202323773 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have written '5 -' on the second line...
< 1202323777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure how I didn't notice that
< 1202323809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: it's a problem with the example
< 1202323820 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadfkla;sdfjklasdfhkjasdlfhklasjdfhkjlasdfhajklgakdfjgakdfghkjladfghkljadfadfghdfjkhdfg
< 1202323827 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?
< 1202323833 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :submit a fixed version would you? :P
< 1202323838 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should just be a copy/paste+fix
< 1202323841 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is lazy
< 1202323993 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, done
< 1202324062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, I managed to beat even GolfScript on the drop-first-line challenge using sed
< 1202324066 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice name heh
< 1202324124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please let it be right this time...
< 1202324136 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf
< 1202324136 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm outputting 4\nERR
< 1202324148 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong sort of quotes?
< 1202324152 0 :sarehu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection
< 1202324162 0 :sarehu!n=irc@ool-44c637dc.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202324168 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.modeemi.fi/~chery/lisp500/lisp500.c <-- arthur winfrey would be proud
< 1202324190 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you messed the examples.
< 1202324194 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot to add an extra newline to them all.
< 1202324195 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, again?
< 1202324207 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, after pasting, hit 'ENTER' at the end of them exactly once
< 1202324208 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1202324216 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, leave it as it is
< 1202324227 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the golf entries can append the newline themselves
< 1202324245 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll save riling up shinh further
< 1202324260 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the first version seems to have disappeared already)
< 1202324275 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, it's important
< 1202324277 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's against the spec
< 1202324282 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can do it, i guess
< 1202324289 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll apologize in the descr. :)
< 1202324379 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your output:
< 1202324379 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2\n
< 1202324381 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9765625\n
< 1202324383 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4
< 1202324385 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expected:
< 1202324389 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1\n
< 1202324391 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3125\n
< 1202324393 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.5\n
< 1202324395 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1
< 1202324397 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bizzare
< 1202324509 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :/
< 1202324515 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it this time?
< 1202324547 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats me
< 1202324579 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, duh
< 1202324580 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course
< 1202324651 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$*<<5; $*<<2; $*<<$*.pop%$*.pop;puts$*[-1];\n
< 1202324651 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2\n
< 1202324651 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$*<<5; $*<<$*.pop*$*.pop; $*<<5; $*<<$*.pop**$*.pop;puts$*[-1];\n
< 1202324651 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9765625\n
< 1202324655 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be:
< 1202324657 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1, 3125
< 1202324659 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1202324689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is << the push instruction?
< 1202324695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ** exponentiation?
< 1202324708 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1202324711 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do things the wrong way around
< 1202324711 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1202324758 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashdfjashdfhkasdfkhasdf
< 1202324761 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby doesn't auto-float
< 1202324761 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1202324791 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Once you pop, you can't stop.
< 1202324848 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aha
< 1202324850 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can check with
< 1202324858 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x.to_i.to_f == x
< 1202324862 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then back to int
< 1202324864 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwahahaha
< 1202324947 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asdfahsdfahsdfhasdfhklasdfasdfadfhasdjflsdhasdfhlasdfhklasdfhdfhdfasdfsdf
< 1202325024 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh, it works interactively
< 1202325025 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1202325166 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://pastebin.ca/894169
< 1202325177 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work yet?
< 1202325180 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope
< 1202325184 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it handles stuff wrong
< 1202325188 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because
< 1202325193 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby's / always produces an int unless given a float
< 1202325199 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i have to convert to a float and check for .0
< 1202325202 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it isn't working.
< 1202325215 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the second example my last line of output is 1.0
< 1202325223 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1202325229 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: your examples are wrong.
< 1202325233 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not again...?
< 1202325236 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it this time?
< 1202325238 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you expect 0.5 2 * to produce an integer 1
< 1202325250 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you expect everything to coerce to integers when possible
< 1202325250 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1202325258 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was your example, not mine
< 1202325273 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, why not?
< 1202325354 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ig uess so
< 1202325355 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1202325374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drop first line is coming along well
< 1202325388 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my Brainfuck and Befunge-93 entries are exactly the same bytecount
< 1202325431 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, i give up on my rpn
< 1202325432 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202325463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually managed to reduce the Befunge to 20 bytes simply by deleting a stray final newline
< 1202325473 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anarchy Golf seems to be treating \n as \n\r for some reason
< 1202325479 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw
< 1202325480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if I use file upload, it'll be a byte shorter...
< 1202325490 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get the 'vi' language
< 1202325493 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for drop first line i tried:
< 1202325493 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd
< 1202325495 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it didn't work
< 1202325513 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, everything i try has no effect
< 1202325544 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by the way
< 1202325556 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's this for a quine and palindromic quine:
< 1202325584 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puts"aa";File.open("test.rb"){|x|x.puts"aa"}
< 1202325585 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202325594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't palindromic
< 1202325596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's a cheat
< 1202325601 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aah, but read it
< 1202325603 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it becomes palindromic
< 1202325605 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :magically.
< 1202325623 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, it overwrites its own source code to change it to its own output
< 1202325626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is very cheating
< 1202325632 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but very clever
< 1202325637 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who wrote that?
< 1202325639 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me
< 1202325648 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait till after the deadline, then you can try it
< 1202325652 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww, anagolf looks at the program before executing
< 1202325652 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1202325661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OTOH, I think shinh said he was banning file save
< 1202325696 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION managed to save one char on a newline-containing entry by using file upload so that \n didn't have a \r auto-added
< 1202325861 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, the vi entry for drop first line is apparently ddZZ
< 1202325865 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: give me a long chunk of text so i can avoid cheaters in a challenge i'm making
< 1202325870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says so on the front page of golf.shinh.org itself
< 1202325877 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah i see, you have to save
< 1202325882 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I submitted it with an appropriate (comment)
< 1202325892 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh crap, there's ALREADY taht challenge
< 1202325892 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::(
< 1202325897 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no there isn't
< 1202325901 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1202325902 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good
< 1202325902 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1202325903 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202325911 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I searched for it and shinh apparently just used it as an example without realising it hadn't been submitted
< 1202325933 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it should be a 'never ending' one
< 1202325937 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of its ubiquity
< 1202325953 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes to be able to see the source code when the challenge ends
< 1202325979 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a long chunk of text you could copy one of the articles from esolangs.org
< 1202325984 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all public domain, after all
< 1202325998 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh
< 1202326001 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using lorem ipsum
< 1202326061 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... that 'delete first line' might even be reasonably plausible in HOMESPRING
< 1202326066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's hard to write anything in that language
< 1202326071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except cat
< 1202326232 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: with vi how can i chop off the last eof of a file? :|
< 1202326247 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't even realise it was possible to delete an EOF
< 1202326256 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that cause the file to run into the next one on a disk?
< 1202326266 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err
< 1202326267 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :newline
< 1202326267 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh
< 1202326268 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1202326277 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that would be cool
< 1202326278 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P
< 1202326279 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not very used to vi
< 1202326394 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Encoder+decoder
< 1202326402 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe the example is real enough to give real submissions
< 1202326402 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;)
< 1202326414 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i haven't seen that silly encryption elsewhere
< 1202326422 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it does quite a good job of making text jumbled 'randomly'
< 1202326577 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually
< 1202326581 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a vi solution to that might be easy
< 1202326581 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1202326582 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has done the encode in 24 bytes of BF
< 1202326589 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wow. show?
< 1202326596 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and -- just now?
< 1202326599 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,,,,,,,,.,+[>,.,+]<[-.<]
< 1202326602 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, just now
< 1202326606 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay.
< 1202326610 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the commas at the start are to skip over the string 'encode'
< 1202326614 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i should have made seperate 'encode' and 'decode'
< 1202326615 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202326659 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, doing it like this gives BF less of an unfair advantage :)
< 1202326667 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the decode is substantially harder, by the way
< 1202326690 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but isn't it better to have seperate decode and encode programs?
< 1202326695 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of mashing two golf challenges into one
< 1202326697 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1202326700 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you've submitted it now
< 1202326706 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn :)
< 1202326780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with the decode is finding the middle of the string in advance
< 1202326786 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF isn't very good at that
< 1202326798 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed
< 1202326798 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but
< 1202326799 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same with sed
< 1202326800 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc
< 1202326802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I could make a semicheat entry that simply had it hardcoded...
< 1202326803 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. i'm worried
< 1202326816 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.antlr.org/wiki/display/CS652/How+To+Read+C+Declarations # this would be a good golf challenge
< 1202326869 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, good old cdecl
< 1202326945 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes
< 1202327174 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This extremely powerful program can actually add two arbitrary digits together, in only twenty seconds or so on a fast machine!"
< 1202327189 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- from the HOMESPRING docs
< 1202327207 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADDITION IN TWENTY SECONDS?
< 1202327210 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boy oh boy!
< 1202327223 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :single-digit only
< 1202327235 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In unary?
< 1202327246 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure how the program works
< 1202327259 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) Input
< 1202327261 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it recognises input and produces output by lookup table, which is never a good sign
< 1202327262 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) ???
< 1202327266 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) Profit!
< 1202327292 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4) Blame someone else
< 1202327299 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The jews?
< 1202327317 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scientologists are good to blame these days
< 1202327341 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, maybe not if you want to _keep_ that profit
< 1202327352 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 10th of february, be very wary :o
< 1202327381 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The internet lacks a Guy Fawkes smiley.
< 1202327401 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. steal underpants 2. ??? 3. profit
< 1202327405 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|:{)>
< 1202327444 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::[-< <%%%
< 1202327461 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8===D - - - - O:
< 1202327470 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need coke
< 1202327486 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8=m=D
< 1202327490 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8m==D
< 1202327493 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8=m=D
< 1202327495 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202327497 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8==mD
< 1202327500 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks oklopol must have misunderstood his smiley
< 1202327501 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hot stuff
< 1202327504 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8==mD-------
< 1202327512 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an effigy, on a bonfire, just so you know it
< 1202327520 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh
< 1202327526 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to decide on the order in which i ban you all.
< 1202327533 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the kick messages
< 1202327536 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alphabetical?
< 1202327550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1202327558 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah__: too simple. It tries to be impartial, but really isn't
< 1202327564 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say so too.  especially as o comes after l.
< 1202327574 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Calculator this one's clever :)
< 1202327574 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random number generator?
< 1202327577 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not that easy to cheat!
< 1202327584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and s comes last of the currently active people, and a comes first...
< 1202327584 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i mean
< 1202327585 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do
< 1202327590 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random selection
< 1202327591 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but :)
< 1202327604 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could do it by popular vote
< 1202327610 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but which voting system?
< 1202327610 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.225.230 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202327653 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We declare states in the channel, and each states have a certain weight on the vote.
< 1202327654 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok
< 1202327657 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, if it works for the country that invented freedom and Coca Cola, why not here!
< 1202327659 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah__: ais523: oklopol: you're all in my state
< 1202327665 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone else is in the other state
< 1202327675 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we vote to kick everyone in the other state.
< 1202327686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't see why they need to be kicked
< 1202327707 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We are Suppressive persons :o
< 1202327744 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it has to be them or us
< 1202327745 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::|
< 1202327745 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts a communist revolution in his state
< 1202327780 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main(c,x){gets(x);while((c=getchar())>-1)putchar(c);}
< 1202327788 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's far larger than is neccessary for drop, isn't it ais523?
< 1202327792 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably
< 1202327798 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using gets/puts could be faster
< 1202327817 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, the calculator problem doesn't look hard
< 1202327819 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can declare variables in main? :o
< 1202327823 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sucks at C
< 1202327830 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah__: it's K&R syntax
< 1202327832 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, if it works for the country that invented freedom (in principle) and Borshch, why not here!
< 1202327834 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah__: i abuse argc, argv.
< 1202327839 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kellogs and...?
< 1202327840 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and UB at that, but the compiler would be unlikely to notice
< 1202327845 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and it's hard because it spreads over runs ;)
< 1202327861 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, my 25char haskell entry:         main=getLine>>interact id
< 1202327863 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was yours?
< 1202327867 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought you were looking for an embed solution
< 1202327880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have written (embed) if I'd noticed
< 1202327899 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :submit the same one and say
< 1202327902 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(^embed)
< 1202328075 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :puts x=eval x=File.read("x")rescue x=eval x[0..-2]
< 1202328078 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is CONFUSING
< 1202328078 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D
< 1202328080 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did
< 1202328094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does rescue do in Ruby?
< 1202328100 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)
< 1202328151 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: x rescue y is equiv to:
< 1202328157 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :begin; x; rescue; y; end
< 1202328164 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where rescue with no clause means 'every error'
< 1202328177 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a non-descriminate try/catch with the scope of one expression.
< 1202328177 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like catch?
< 1202328181 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.
< 1202328183 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK
< 1202328300 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :catch/halt fire.  or was that the other way around...
< 1202328311 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i wish i had allowed exec
< 1202328317 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to do a vi solution which called out to ruby after compiling
< 1202328317 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D
< 1202328344 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would be less cool than a non-cheat entry in pure vi
< 1202328411 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::)
< 1202328599 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: bash question
< 1202328607 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in $((x)), is there a way to 'rescue' on error?
< 1202328617 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure
< 1202328623 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you could do something using trap
< 1202329961 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.81.221 JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202331223 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving."
< 1202331297 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.desktop.umr.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202331392 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit
< 1202331398 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.desktop.umr.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202331405 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit
< 1202331412 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I managed the decoder part of the encoder decoder in 111 bytes of BF, but it times out on anagolf
< 1202331415 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.desktop.umr.edu JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202331424 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :string reverses are not very efficient when done character by character in unary...
< 1202331447 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my computer, the example took 3.626 seconds to run
< 1202331453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is higher than the timeout of 1.5 seconds
< 1202331788 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night"
< 1202331987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anybody still here?
< 1202332061 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am here
< 1202332077 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sup, ais523?
< 1202332082 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing much
< 1202332091 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was wondering how the conversation had managed to die down
< 1202332102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably ehird` was busy working on something, as was I
< 1202332110 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we were golfing...
< 1202332115 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202332154 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, someone managed the encoder decoder in 91 bytes of brainfuck
< 1202332163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is smaller and faster than my separate encoder/decoder...
< 1202332171 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there must be a trick to the decoder that I haven't noticed
< 1202332179 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they hardcoded the number of bytes in the input
< 1202332182 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi all/No all/Sal cxiu/Coi
< 1202332187 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello
< 1202332218 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to get people to look at the recent changes on the esolangs.org wiki
< 1202332228 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything interesting?
< 1202332246 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one new page
< 1202332252 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and me clearing up some spam
< 1202332272 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that you registered an example PSOX domain...
< 1202332306 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've silently finished PSOX 1.0 and am going to release it now
< 1202332315 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just kidding, but I'm regaining my interest in PSOX
< 1202332332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might come in useful for adding file handling capabilities to INTERCAL
< 1202332343 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how unusual is it?
< 1202332437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, one mildly related idea that I've been thinking about is some sort of massive compatibility layer that can be used to link programs in any language with programs in any other language
< 1202332441 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially esolangs
< 1202332473 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about the details, but one idea I had was to use an ASCII art-style description file which was a flowchart showing how things linked together
< 1202332724 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR-L
< 1202332759 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GregorR
< 1202332950 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :?
< 1202335114 0 :helios24!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving"
< 1202335265 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection
< 1202335833 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: if you're still here, you might want to know that the RPN challenge is correct now
< 1202335842 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've entered a working 155-byte Perl entry
< 1202335879 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :152 with UNIX newlines
< 1202336108 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I have to go now"
< 1202336497 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's alive
< 1202336629 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me
< 1202336643 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`: no he isn't
< 1202336659 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: ???
< 1202336695 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll assume you aren't familiar with "who's on first"
< 1202336722 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who
< 1202336725 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's dead?
< 1202336744 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't get it until RodgerTheGreat mentioned it
< 1202336799 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`, did you hear the news about PSOX?
< 1202336813 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still overengineered vaporware?
< 1202336854 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm releasing PSOX 1.0 now! --- not really, but I regained interest
< 1202336882 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should have a '600 line esolang' contest
< 1202336895 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the premise: implement the coolest esolang that isn't minimalistic in 600 lines of C
< 1202336943 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Define 'minimalistic' such that you can sensibly judge every conceivable esolang.
< 1202336986 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I set up the PRI registration page
< 1202337009 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/PSOX/PRI
< 1202337142 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no.
< 1202337147 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glass is not minimal, brainfuck is.
< 1202337270 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection
< 1202337429 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking of changing file descriptors
< 1202337474 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that there aren't seperate functions for I and O, and ability to manipulate FDs other than the current one
< 1202337476 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklofok
< 1202337635 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#So that there aren't seperate functions for I and O# that's retarded
< 1202337663 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant, there's currently a seek function for infile descriptors and another for outfile descriptors
< 1202337723 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`, oklofok comments?
< 1202337736 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: YEAH!
< 1202337740 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like psox, much.
< 1202337791 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to make the first change in over a month
< 1202337810 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`, because you see it as vaporware, or are there other reasons?
< 1202337884 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh.
< 1202337961 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the description of FDs in psox.txt needs to change
< 1202338118 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, seeking through the current file descriptor will require knowing what the current file descriptor is..
< 1202338121 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fibs=1:1:zipWith(+)fibs(tail fibs)
< 1202338121 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main=do mapM print$take 46 fibs;return()
< 1202338124 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that could be shortened, heavily
< 1202338176 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should make 0 be a shorthand for current FD, and 1 is STDFD
< 1202338193 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to do that
< 1202338416 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, actually, there's an oddity
< 1202338453 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no "current" file descriptor, just the current infile descriptor and outfile descriptor
< 1202338473 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can't use 0 to mean current FD
< 1202338487 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless 0 is current outfile, and 1 is current infile. 2 is stdfd
< 1202338713 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ"
< 1202338974 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reached revision 50!
< 1202338981 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not 50!, but 50
< 1202338990 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what would be cool?
< 1202338995 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an esolang based on MapReduce
< 1202339051 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://trac2.assembla.com/psox/changeset?new=trunk%2Fspec%2Fpsox.txt%4050&old=trunk%2Fspec%2Fpsox.txt%4038
< 1202339413 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm leaving in the out_ and in_ separate in the impl, because of STDFD..
< 1202339416 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oshi-
< 1202339482 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n/m, I'll make stdout 0x02 and stdin 0x03
< 1202339495 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless I remove the "current file descriptor" shortcuts
< 1202339577 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`, any thoughts?
< 1202339587 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none because i have not looked.
< 1202339648 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was that guy who beat malbolge with a rusty stick and mastered its secrets?
< 1202339687 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really should separate stdin and stdout
< 1202339697 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what about the shortcuts?
< 1202339725 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do I really need shortcuts? Maybe I could have a function return the current fd?
< 1202339803 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, paying any attention?
< 1202339864 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird`?
< 1202339875 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no because i don't care about psox
< 1202340242 0 :timotiis_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving"
< 1202340595 0 :olsner!n=salparot@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.85.194.50.194.stunet.se JOIN :#esoteric
< 1202341052 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so
< 1202341061 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know of an esolang that's in dire need of an impl but nobody's bothered?
< 1202341307 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to ninjacode?
< 1202341323 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: it's still going to be written; it's just on the back-burner
< 1202341329 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nc2 is the main priority now, for me: #nc2
< 1202341341 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ninjacode 2?
< 1202341356 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssh, i'm trying to avoid expanding the name :-)
< 1202341364 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like how the J site desperately avoids mentioning APL...
< 1202341383 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you got bored fast
< 1202341416 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, late night at work, so I'll be entering daily hibernation as soon as possible
< 1202341527 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=FURscript&diff=6498&oldid=6496 <--I think this is probably better than the previous revision
< 1202341668 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides the profanity, I think they've got something going there
< 1202341673 0 :zbrown!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :?
< 1202341901 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: oh noes, prrofanity, what will we do :D
< 1202342046 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+"
< 1202342071 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm
< 1202342079 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GolfScript was created by the same guy as Minus
< 1202342130 0 :ehird`!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help
< 1202342132 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help ps kill i eof flush show ls bf_txtgen usertrig daemon undaemon
< 1202342134 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l 2l adjust axo bch bf{8,[16],32,64} funge93 fyb fybs glass glypho kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 unlambda whirl