< 1204070614 0 :CakeProphet!n=CakeProp@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1204070702 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are Schönhage's machines easier to understand than Kolmogorov's? < 1204070721 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even a clearer paper might do! < 1204071316 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem is, I can't find anywhere in his article an example that doesn't involve the graph itself! < 1204071340 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only example is "How to double the graph". < 1204071366 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a whole lot helpful for a more useful algorithm. < 1204073331 0 :RainbowTrout!n=chatzill@74-38-30-170.dsl1.pco.ca.frontiernet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1204073367 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1204073440 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cake Prophet < 1204073468 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAKE PROPHET < 1204073479 0 :RainbowTrout!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1204073495 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1204073527 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impatient lad! < 1204075334 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"haaaaaaaaaa" < 1204075634 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1204078179 0 :atsampson!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1204078485 0 :atsampson!n=ats@7hw.poik.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1204081485 0 :sekhmet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1204082370 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client terminated by server" < 1204082381 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1204083165 0 :immibis!n=immibis@125-238-252-202.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1204084275 0 :sekhmet!n=pez@ppp-70-226-163-225.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1204084367 0 :uvanta!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"If you're seeing this message, it's probably XChat's fault." < 1204085038 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1204096810 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1204099199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1204099200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1204100095 0 :jix!n=jix@78.47.212.92 JOIN :#esoteric < 1204100260 0 :FurFur!n=nodquiet@209.181.185.131 JOIN :#esoteric < 1204100325 0 :FurFur!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1204105654 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1204109902 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1204113391 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1204120102 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1204120351 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1204120383 0 :slereah__!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-7-52.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1204121039 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host235-80-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1204121078 0 :slereah_!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-7-52.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1204122814 0 :slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1204123660 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1204127936 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1204131315 0 :n0nsense!n=chatzill@p57B3A507.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1204131324 0 :n0nsense!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1204132526 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.202 JOIN :#esoteric < 1204135016 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1204136306 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-12-122.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1204136439 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1204137381 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host235-80-dynamic.26-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1204137804 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1204139943 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why isn't one's complement used more often? < 1204139960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to create a two's complement system by just using unsigned adders and disregarding the carry < 1204139980 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but looping the carry from the msb round to the carry input of the lsb gives you ones' complement < 1204140001 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(albeit with -0 being the standard representation of 0 and +0 being impossible to get unless you start a number at that value) < 1204140032 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one big advantage is that if you use the right number of bits, you can make the number of available integers a prime < 1204140040 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that multiplication is completely reversible < 1204140061 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello ais523. < 1204140067 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello slereah_ < 1204140170 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... my rant about 1's complement doesn't seem to have sparked off a discussion yet < 1204140230 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know if the others are here, and I don't know what's 1's complement. < 1204140253 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most computers represent negative numbers using 2's complement < 1204140278 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that you're storing numbers in binary (unless you're using TriINTERCAL or Malbolge, this is likely), and that you have a fixed number of bits (i.e. not a bignum) < 1204140296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you form the 2's complement of a number by changing all 0s to 1s in the number and 1s to 0s, and then adding 1 < 1204140303 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1's complement is the same except that you don't add the 1 < 1204140308 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1204140340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the advantage of 2's complement, which is the reason it's so commonly used, is that signed and unsigned arithmetic work the same way; for signed arithmetic, you just disregard the carry < 1204140343 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't you have problems differentiation between, say, -1 and 255? < 1204140361 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with an 8-bit system, you'd generally range from -127 to +127 < 1204140368 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1204140382 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2's complement would go from -128 to +127 < 1204140402 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1's complement has two sorts of zero, which act identically, but can be confusing to someone used to how arithmetic normally works) < 1204140427 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're normally referred to as +0 and -0, but both act like 0 with respect to all the usual arithmetic operations < 1204140522 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the real interest comes when the number of bits you use is not a power of 2 < 1204140529 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to be precise, when 2^n-1 is a prime) < 1204140545 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then multiplication by any integer except 0 maps all integers onto unique integers < 1204140578 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's almost as easy to implement in hardware as 2's complement (at least in terms of wiring) < 1204140590 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's slower on average, but the worst-case response time is the same < 1204140639 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So where's the gain? < 1204140689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more elegant maths IMO < 1204140710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and you can pick one of the zeros to use as 0 and the other one to detect uninitialised data < 1204140839 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"More difficult to understand quite unlike a "computer" -- abstract or otherwise." < 1204140844 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boy they've got that right. < 1204140891 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you referring to? < 1204140940 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from the wiki article on pointers machines. < 1204141131 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to be one of the most obscure computing method. < 1204141186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1204141194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a vague memory that such things existed < 1204141199 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't really understand them < 1204141240 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there anything based on it? < 1204141258 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice to have a concrete example. < 1204141469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after reading a few Google links I think I understand what's happening to some extent now < 1204141553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, at any given point the memory is a graph, with nodes connected to each other by directed coloured edges < 1204141573 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1204141584 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though they don't have to be directed apparently. < 1204141598 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at each step, there are replacement rules, such as 'if a node is connected to another node via a red edge and then a blue edge, add a green edge pointing to that node from the original node' < 1204141615 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... maybe not quite like that, I still don't understand them properly < 1204141632 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand roughly how it works. < 1204141637 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's plenty of examples < 1204141646 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proble is, I don't get much how it computes. < 1204141653 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's usual with esolangs < 1204141670 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of the examples are using problems outside of the graph itself. < 1204141671 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the articles said that you could make a cellular automaton by connecting the original graph up as a grid < 1204141687 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swell. < 1204141771 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an example that's sort of useful, though not that clear. < 1204141787 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It shows how to do a list of integers. < 1204141813 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1204141838 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On the definition of an algorithm", by Andrei Kolmogorov and Uspenskii. < 1204141851 0 :wildhalcyon!n=chatzill@12.191.193.20 JOIN :#esoteric < 1204141898 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the Kolmogorov definition adds some strange conditions, like every nodes must have a type and a node can't be connected to two identical types. < 1204141948 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there's a lot of nodes type 2-3-4-2-3-4-2-3-4... because of it. < 1204141962 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(0 is the starting node type and 1 ending type) < 1204143097 0 :olsner!n=salparot@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.85.194.50.194.stunet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1204143300 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1204143335 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunnet FTW < 1204143361 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whut? < 1204143376 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, M-x dunnet < 1204143400 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whodunnet? < 1204143408 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1204143411 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a game < 1204143418 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a text adventure < 1204143431 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though best run with emacs -batch -l dunnet < 1204143541 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's minigolf in movie 4 < 1204143560 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, what, "movie"? < 1204143600 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Futurama movie < 1204143615 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1204143620 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevent to anything? < 1204143628 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1204143631 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong chan basically < 1204143635 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's Futurama, so probably! < 1204144166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ever tried Lost Kingdoms? < 1204144171 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm stuck on the wildcat < 1204144192 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no < 1204144230 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentioned this to ehird, and wrote a serialising BF interp so that I could send a save file, but ehird couldn't solve that bit either < 1204145027 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it originally written in bfbasic? < 1204145063 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1204145070 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that page is wrong? < 1204145119 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two versions < 1204145122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original was in BASIC < 1204145133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an improved version was written in BFBASIC and compiled to BF < 1204145150 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any bfbasic source? < 1204145180 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I know of < 1204145187 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even the original BASIC source is in binary < 1204145200 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could try decompiling, because BFBASIC itself is open-source < 1204145215 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but someone would have to write a decompiler first < 1204145283 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual page only says that the original LK was written in bbc basic and translated to brainfuck... < 1204145291 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't say anything about bfbasic < 1204145327 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did use BFBASIC, though, I'm pretty sure of it < 1204145344 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially because the patterns at the end of the source are characteristic of it < 1204145459 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW, Esolang's entry on Brainfuck states that BFBASIC was used < 1204145469 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's the only source I can find < 1204145480 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from various translations of it < 1204145548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there aren't many mentions of that game on the Internet anyway, for some reason < 1204145589 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, note the mention of Jeffry Johnston in the credits at the bottom of its page < 1204145612 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeffry Johnston created BFBASIC, and it also has contributions by Jon Ripley, which would seem to make the situation even more likely < 1204145632 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1204145643 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though the bf world is quite small isn't it? < 1204145669 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 5 feet across < 1204145671 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as small as the rest of the esolang world < 1204145675 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the biggest communauty in esolangs ! < 1204145694 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I wonder if Intercal isn't used more. < 1204145701 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has seniority and all. < 1204145708 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comp.lang.intercal has com activity < 1204145712 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERCAL is probably used a lot < 1204145719 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and don't you mean alt.lang.intercal < 1204145723 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are there really two newsgroups? < 1204145749 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I wouldn't go as far as "lot". < 1204145761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently ~50 Debian users who send popularity contest stats installed C-INTERCAL, ~30 installed CLC-INTERCAL, single-figures > 1 actually use them) < 1204145826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :latest stats from http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=intercal are that 4 people used C-INTERCAL recently < 1204145851 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bear in mind that this is restricted to Debian Linux users with popularity stats turned on, so the true number is likely much higher) < 1204145869 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 3 used CLC-INTERCAL < 1204145883 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either the total installed numbers have gone down, though, or my memory of them was wrong < 1204145931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, add one to the C-INTERCAL stats for me, because although I use Ubuntu, I don't have C-INTERCAL installed from packages as I'm the maintainer and have my own newer test versions < 1204146071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do show up on the CLC-INTERCAL stats, I think) < 1204146119 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really think lightning-fast mental math is neat: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/199 < 1204146177 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1204146195 0 :wildhalcyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.11/2007112718]" < 1204146203 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1204146204 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@71.237.179.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1204146306 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- GregorR has left this server (Success). < 1204146321 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no double quotes, so that was a server-generated quit message < 1204146329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(presumably a case of errno=0 but an error happened anyway) < 1204146332 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd < 1204146341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came across a program recently which was exiting with "success" as the error message < 1204146349 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it was using perror but nothing had set errno < 1204146377 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(apparently on that system mmap doesn't always set errno on failure) < 1204146380 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that video seems to have no image < 1204146416 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there supposed to be one? < 1204146445 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: I don't understand what you're trying to say, can I have some context or did you type into the wrong channel? < 1204146458 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the video that RodgerTheGreat posted < 1204146462 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you're referring to RodgerTheGreat's comment < 1204146485 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hunh. Tried refreshing? < 1204146492 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1204146498 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I missing much < 1204146511 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1204146523 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the audio will honestly give you most of it < 1204146735 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1204146781 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the "missing digit" one is via casting out nines, I suspect < 1204146842 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the previous ones are simplified by knowing your times tables up to 100 < 1204146896 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thoguh eh might not < 1204146932 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to recall the Lewis Caroll technique for finding the day of the week of a date.
< 1204147113 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes, he is using his tables up to 100 < 1204147156 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, nice memorisation hack < 1204147160 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though it is standard) < 1204147218 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty simple techniques, he simply applies them with tremendous speed and accuracy < 1204147317 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the same kind of thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIiDomlEjJw < 1204147404 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, see the tale of richard feynmann and the abacus-seller < 1204147432 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1204147582 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, in the book "Surely You're Joking Mr Feynmann" < 1204147587 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a great book for any geek < 1204147600 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have heard it's very entertaining. < 1204147608 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... lemme see how much it is on Amazon... < 1204147667 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about $8 including shipping. < 1204147707 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've read it too < 1204147717 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a good book, but the sequel is much worse < 1204147728 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sequel? < 1204147730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I can't remember what the sequel is called) < 1204147738 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably because it wasn't very good) < 1204147750 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazon should know < 1204147758 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or WP for that matter < 1204149164 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow: http://www.pdp8.net/sound/sound.shtml < 1204149188 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-134.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1204149496 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1204149943 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"my quit message will never be as good as GregorR's :(" < 1204153603 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1204153876 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes.
< 1204153923 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bais < 1204155253 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1204156449 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric