< 1204934400 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that looks right < 1204934435 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, you remarked exactly at midnight < 1204934444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: hmm... < 1204934446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{ {{ S1| K | S }} | K }} < 1204934450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it thinks SKSK is < 1204934457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need more {{ }} ing of partially evaluated forms < 1204934467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: S, S1, S2, K, I are my templates < 1204934494 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has gotten MW pages to contain text that you can't put in directly, and that resaving with no changes change the page..
< 1204934530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: I definately have a weird bug < 1204934530 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I know at least two examples of that, but they're both bugs according to the devs < 1204934531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{ {{ K | hello }} | world }} < 1204934532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--> < 1204934539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{ I| hello | world }} < 1204934547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, of course. < 1204934549 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a bug < 1204934551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, wait.. < 1204934555 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{{subst:ns:0}}{some_template}} < 1204934556 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just MediaWiki marking characters as literal < 1204934561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: Ah. < 1204934562 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't magically deliteralise < 1204934564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I need your trick? < 1204934566 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm wait < 1204934568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(What was it, again?) < 1204934575 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I already explained that it doesn't work < 1204934595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: OK. So should I just give up, or is there hope? < 1204934604 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I just gave up last time I tried < 1204934626 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think a simple method will work, because you can't just insert | marks into the middle of templates remotely < 1204934631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: Trying your {{!}} < 1204934645 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the bug that I used was fixed < 1204934651 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not a bug < 1204934675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{ {{ {{{1}}} {{!}} {{{3}}} }} {{!}} {{ {{{2}}} {{!}} {{{3}}} }} }} < 1204934691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{{{{{{1}}}{{!}}{{{3}}}}}{{!}}{{{{{2}}}{{!}}{{{3}}}}}}} funnier without whitespace < 1204934692 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you can do it by trying to subst a non-existent page < 1204934718 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also note that a user was once banned by Arbcom, partially for setting their signature to ~~~~ (but for other more serious reasons too) < 1204934774 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I admit that it was an ingenious thing to do < 1204934782 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wht happens if your sig is ~~~~ ? < 1204934790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: when other people edit the page it becomes their sig < 1204934792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about it < 1204934797 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1204934800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mw substs user->sig on ~~~~ < 1204934806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if user->sig = ~~~~ < 1204934810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it puts ~~~~ on the page < 1204934812 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not as simple as that < 1204934813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when edited, it sees ~~~~ < 1204934814 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't remember why < 1204934815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and substs user->sig < 1204934822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: because sigs are interp'd for wikicode < 1204934824 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think it may have changed over time < 1204934824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, basically. < 1204934831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: anyway, I cannot think how to make my templates work < 1204934833 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: there are sig filters nowadays < 1204934836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have any ideas I'd really like to hear them :) < 1204934868 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have enough of one < 1204934893 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may be possible to do clever things using = on Parser_OldPP, but I don't think that's sufficient for this < 1204934939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1204934941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is = < 1204934945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1204934945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1204934947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keywording < 1204934949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, that's a good idea.. < 1204934954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1204934956 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for named parameters < 1204934961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we say that we have args x, y, z for S < 1204934961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1204934963 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, you can have a param called 1 or 2 if you like < 1204934976 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has interesting interactions with numbered params < 1204934981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :S = S1|x{{{1}}}{{{2}}} < 1204934983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 1 must be = < 1204934989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: actually i have no idea how i could utilize that < 1204934989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1204935014 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't either < 1204935023 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I used it for Wiki Cyclic Tag for list parsing < 1204935034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/FURscript if this had a call procedure command I think it would be turing complete < 1204935038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to lambda calculus hackery < 1204935130 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[DIRFORMAT="DIRECTORY","BYPASSSECURITY?"] FORMATS A DRIVE AND ASKS WHETHER TO BYPASS ALL RESTRICTIONS < 1204935154 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how it formats the drive beforehand < 1204935155 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then asks the user whether it should have done < 1204935178 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily it doesn't say which drive is formatted, so as long as I have a floppy disk I may be alright < 1204935246 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... there are three comments requesting deletion on the talk page of that page < 1204935259 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them is mine, though, so it would be inappropriate for me to delete it myself < 1204935262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't delete it < 1204935264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its hilariously bad < 1204935275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1204935276 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write that onwiki, so your opinion is preserved? < 1204935276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/932888 < 1204935281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SKI mediawiki thingy < 1204935287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a simple statement of the problem < 1204935291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's easier to think about it < 1204935307 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: MediaWIki blocks template loops anyway < 1204935318 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... why not just restart by hand, like with my cyclic tag interp? < 1204935332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: Because the more automatic, the cooler. < 1204935336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We want mini programs in MW pages! < 1204935438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: Hmm < 1204935438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{ {{{1}}} | {{{1}}} }} < 1204935440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :called with itself < 1204935443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :returns a link to the template < 1204935448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that how it handles inf loops? < 1204935450 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1204935456 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes them into links rather than transclusions < 1204935473 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do it with subst, you get a little HTML comment in the output saying there was a loop < 1204935486 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I wonder if it's visible in view source with the nonsubst version? < 1204935513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{{ subst: {{{1}}} | {{{1}}} }} < 1204935515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i make that work < 1204935516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1204935535 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't easy, although I managed it once < 1204935546 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involved editing the template once it had already been set up < 1204935564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get what you're saying < 1204935564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1204935569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to make /SKI be that < 1204935573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it just puts that literally. < 1204935673 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1204935781 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: do you want me to clean up the mess you've created now, or are you still having fun messing around with it? < 1204935889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: not sure < 1204936165 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interesting PDF I just came across: http://www.tcs.ifi.lmu.de/~gruberh/data/fun07-final.pdf < 1204936172 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about esoteric sorting algorithms < 1204936183 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, ones which are so bad they wouldn't be used in practice, like bogosort) < 1204936229 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't there a website about those < 1204936241 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like intelligent-design sort? < 1204936371 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the paper manages to optimise bozosort (which is itself twice as efficient as bogosort) to O(n^3 log n) running time < 1204936443 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :odd that it's more efficient < 1204936650 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the number of values a bit can have is small" -> another choice Wikipedia quote < 1204936658 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what the correct form of "yours truly" to refer to himself is, when he is talking to himself
< 1204936668 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mine truly"? < 1204936674 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: not as small as it could be! < 1204936676 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: lol < 1204936680 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION likes halfbits
< 1204936695 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqrt(2) values < 1204936706 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR they exis in QM < 1204936715 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, we seem to have been having a lot of TURKEY BOMB discussions later < 1204936721 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although this one is in disguise < 1204936723 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably in other information theories < 1204936725 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/later/lately/ two lines ago < 1204936743 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone tried to implement TB? < 1204936754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: yes < 1204936761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 and I have a project to do so ongoing < 1204936763 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1204936778 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you implementing it as a programming language or a drinking game? < 1204936782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but finding meaningful values you can stuff into fractions of a bit is hard; you can pad the field to the nearest byte but you can't store anything meaningful in it. < 1204936843 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: it's ehird's project, but they keep trying to credit me with it < 1204936885 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean s/credit/smear/? < 1204936887 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1204936890 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is incidentally the difference between the BSD and MIT licences; BSD disallows other people crediting you for their work) < 1204936906 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, anyone know about DISC profiles? < 1204936909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: nooo < 1204936911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: I meant < 1204936913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you tried to implement it < 1204936916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I am ongoing < 1204936920 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't get all that far < 1204936927 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to be the classic high D+C < 1204936935 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I did generate some useful ideas, and the TCness definitions < 1204936946 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at least, it has TC control flow, not sure about data structures) < 1204936948 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need more quantum languages < 1204936966 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quantum INTERCAL turned out to be a cheat; it's actually just a form of multithreading < 1204936968 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the usual one seems to be the raw equations < 1204936976 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are an esolang by themselves < 1204936990 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we need quantum TwoDucks! < 1204937173 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :halfbits in particular deserve more attention < 1204937218 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to write numbers in base 1/sqrt(2)? < 1204937222 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe, any collection that comes to a total of n bits can store a number from 0 to ceil(2^n)-1 ? < 1204937247 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523|sl_busy: ITYM sqrt(2) < 1204937252 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if so, yes < 1204937273 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most numbers have multiple representations < 1204937288 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, why can't I have a number system with a negative number of digits available? < 1204937305 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least, a number of digits somewhere between 0 and 1 < 1204937390 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, ternary arithmetic: < 1204937391 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A base-three system is used in Islam to keep track of counting Tasbih to 99 or to 100 on a single hand for counting prayers (as alternative for the Misbaha). The benefit —apart from allowing a single hand to count up to 99 or to 100— is that counting doesn't distract the mind too much since the counter needs only to divide Tasbihs into groups of three. < 1204937422 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1204938209 0 :ais523|sl_busy!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ehird, if you want those pages deleted, you're going to have to ask onwiki because I really ought to go home" < 1204938539 0 :faxathisia!n=afg@amcant.demon.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1204940377 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to bed.
< 1204940447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't. Ever.
< 1204940511 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I killall sound or killall flash stuff? < 1204940549 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is rather urgent, I'm going batty < 1204940561 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1204940583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Speakers. Mute them. < 1204940597 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want to be able to hear other sound < 1204940607 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reboot o_o < 1204940610 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just not this sound that is stuck and I can't seem to kill it < 1204940615 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia, is there any other way? < 1204940674 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the thing that GNOME uses for sound? < 1204940718 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's using HALD < 1204940723 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't kill that, can I? < 1204940745 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed < 1204940751 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that sound is STILL playing < 1204940753 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is difficult about rebooting..? < 1204940795 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will reboot
< 1204940858 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1204941083 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-177.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1204941090 0 :Sgeo!n=Anonymou@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1204941100 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is obviously back
< 1204941682 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did that work? < 1204941893 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes ofc < 1204941902 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I want to know what process I could have killed to fix it < 1204941960 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is less obviously back
< 1204942539 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pikhq.nonlogic.org/kernel.tar.bz2 < 1204942616 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it support PSOX? < 1204942658 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees the future.
< 1204942664 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Would you like it to?" :o < 1204942810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Hardly random. Your self-promotion is deterministic: the constant function true. < 1204942836 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Please be kind to our operators: they may not be very intelligent, but they're all we've got." < 1204942837 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1204942861 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, eh? < 1204942871 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading the INTERCAL dow < 1204942873 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dox < 1204943777 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It doesn't even have *processes*. ;) < 1204943778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yet) < 1204943813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1204943952 0 :olsner!n=salparot@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.85.194.50.194.stunet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1204944600 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1204945029 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1204945175 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, will it eventually support Python? < 1204945189 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw PSOX 1.0 spec not finalized, that will come with b1 < 1204945192 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX 1.0b1 < 1204945921 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah, apparently there's a #jesus on FreeNode X-D < 1204945936 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now 100% F/OSS! Download jesus-prealpha-0.1.tar.gz today! < 1204945960 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Turn to Jesus ASAP. It's the only way to escape hell! He's paid the price for your crimes, now come and collect your ticket.." < 1204945962 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lul < 1204946337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, it may eventually support POSIX. < 1204946356 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By providing enough system calls to support a port of Newlib, of course. < 1204947102 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newlib? < 1204947622 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to think up of some language based on set theory, but there's the incompleteness theorem posing problems :o < 1204948237 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newlib is a small, simple libc by Red Hat, meant for embedded systems or initrd's. < 1204948470 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1204950090 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1204950776 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uclibc < 1204950892 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err uClibc, sorry :) < 1204951371 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: Isn't that harder to port? < 1204951385 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1204951388 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Newlib is trivial. < 1204951406 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Provide these functions, and link them with newlib. Voila, you've got newlib working.' < 1204951529 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night all < 1204951531 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.busybox.net/lists/busybox/2005-March/013759.html < 1204951585 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1204951622 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ex-Chat" < 1204957064 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i missed the orgy :( < 1204957097 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. < 1204957113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :bsmntbombdood missed the orgy. | Fe fi fo funge, I smell the brainfuck of an Englishman. | pastebin - http://pb.eso-std.org/ < 1204958989 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.erbzine.com/mag17/1744.html < 1204958991 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1204961140 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1204962486 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1204962753 0 :Slereah!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-13-240.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1204963199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1204963200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1204964355 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1204966159 0 :Sukoshi!n=Blah@user-11fa439.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1204966295 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello < 1204966335 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1204966368 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1204966408 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi is a cat program :o < 1204966418 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am? < 1204966422 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :D < 1204966424 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone in ##c is telling me to cast isupper/toupper and lower :( < 1204966435 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm like no.. that's not a requirement < 1204966454 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. Your mom is the requirement! < 1204966458 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hah.) < 1204966461 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1204966465 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not saying that... < 1204966506 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Situation: < 1204966544 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have admin access to a block of machines behind a Cisco router which I have some access to, but not enough time to explore. Ports may or may not be open to the outside, which ones, I am not sure of yet. < 1204966561 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objective: Create a system backdoor. < 1204966568 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideas? < 1204966626 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I save a whole bunch of money by switching to Cisco? < 1204966642 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That depends on the state of your finances. < 1204966658 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And in which direction the wave function collapses when observing. < 1204966708 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1204966787 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: If you can't serve on any of them (due to nothing forwarded) you could just run deamons on them which ping HTTP connects, POSTing the results of exec`ing whatever was on the page < 1204966815 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. Which was the idea I was thinking of. < 1204966817 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a pretty ugly solution so it fit's whatever you're doing :P < 1204966859 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am fomenting a proletariat revolution. < 1204966878 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The means of production shall be robbed from the capitalists and nationalized into the hands of the People. < 1204966880 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not.) < 1204966896 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can it wait? My Guy Fawkes mask still hasn't arrived. < 1204966901 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1204966913 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need more top hats, see. < 1204966918 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the capitalists must fall now. < 1204966999 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: alternatively if they run any PHP server just stick a system($_GET['foo']) somewhere, easy to beam a shell though < 1204967003 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, who shall produce the top hats if not the capitalists? besides everyone knows only capitalists wear top hats < 1204967010 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capitalists don't wear top hats anymore. < 1204967015 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look at Ron Paul! < 1204967024 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that might be wrong .. I probably forgot PHP) < 1204967032 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do in North Korean films. they are the truth, you know! < 1204967037 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: No PHP here. < 1204967047 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I know PHP. < 1204967053 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do they also sport big moustaches? < 1204967066 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't have a mustache unless I get hormones. < 1204967071 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really want hormones :\ < 1204967077 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I still want a top-hat, see. < 1204967088 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably. they are also fat and drink a lot of whisky. < 1204967093 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, you a girl? < 1204967094 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1204967097 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1204967110 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there are girls on esolangs! < 1204967113 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1204967121 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's your esolang? < 1204967126 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF. < 1204967134 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For winz and justicez. < 1204967185 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish these bloody Congressional amendments were easier to find. < 1204967212 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: Are you still using smalltalk? or something else? < 1204967241 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: I wish I had the *time*, really. < 1204967248 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw.. < 1204967261 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But when time does open up (and it will), I will do more of it! < 1204967358 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been busy with the Calc III. < 1204967380 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well somewhat busy anyway. This weekend my (somewhat self-assigned) homework will start the actual Calculus. < 1204967385 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: Have you seen a proof that √2 exists? :D < 1204967390 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O?! < 1204967394 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link plz !!! < 1204967399 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it was so awesome < 1204967442 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link! < 1204967445 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, that sounds awesome. < 1204967466 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is... this your proof? http://us.metamath.org/mpegif/sqr2re.html < 1204967516 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to click on each step, and then the steps of the steps for the actual proof from ZFC axioms < 1204967528 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..... < 1204967536 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y = x^2 is continuous on [0, 2).. so it has a solution for y = 2, by .... < 1204967550 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION (tries to find the name of this theorem)
< 1204967581 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definition of Continuity? < 1204967589 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait. :P < 1204967592 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_value_theorem < 1204967599 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IVT? < 1204967605 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bolzano Weierstrass < 1204967608 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhh. < 1204967614 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. Interesting. Interesting. < 1204967624 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can use that for most any irrational number. < 1204967626 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It be that the two limits at a point are equal, and equal to the function at this point :o < 1204967627 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hisses at Set theory
< 1204967665 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ø : THE EMPTY SET DOES NOT APPROVE OF YOUR HISSING < 1204967670 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But irrationals are real ... LOL WUT FAILZ < 1204967695 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1204967713 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks.. (How can I get Sleareah into Type Theory..)
< 1204967728 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, I got into set theory by type theory! < 1204967735 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because type theory is horrible < 1204967739 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the PM type theory. < 1204967755 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got into ... electrical engineering ...? :P < 1204967779 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But most of the PM is horrible : http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Russell/14.01.jpg < 1204967789 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Russell doesn't know dick about making nice notations. < 1204967802 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me of my friend's (whose coursework I'm self-studying) extra-credit problem with 4d spheres. < 1204967810 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm never heard of PM < 1204967820 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Principia Mathematica < 1204967840 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite the masterpiece, really < 1204967853 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's really hard to read, with the notation conventions < 1204967862 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1204967867 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone who hasn't heard of PM?! < 1204967868 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: if you make a cube length and put a sphere with radius 1 at one the corners.. the center of the cube is not inside the sphere < 1204967879 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some dimension... higher than 3 .. I forgot which < 1204968001 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1204968005 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard of Principa.. < 1204968012 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have not read it yet < 1204968026 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have it for free! < 1204968027 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, anyone here up for a game of Nomic in parallel with an evolving Prolog mirror? < 1204968031 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has 0 copyright! < 1204968055 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has copyright on 0 - it proved it existed < 1204968082 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Russell/54.jpg <- trhar < 1204968099 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/\ is the old "empty set" notation) < 1204968105 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No Nomic/Prolog? Awww :| < 1204968126 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sukoshi: What is your intrest in Prolog? < 1204968129 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forgot what theiota means < 1204968132 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the sphere exactly touches the cube center for n=4 < 1204968145 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew. Balls are touching. < 1204968148 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqrt(4*(1/2)^2) = 1 < 1204968154 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: I miss it lots. < 1204968170 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been programming bare bones stuff for the longest time ... and Prolog is what I crave, heh. < 1204968195 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend of mine told me that mercury is moar awesome for logic programming. < 1204968201 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never tried though < 1204968237 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there are many Prolog implementations out there, and it's widely understood. < 1204968245 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So maybe it's more convenient. Depending on what yer after. < 1204968273 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know.. < 1204968282 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think mercury is that wonderful < 1204968301 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog is wonderful. < 1204968313 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't given Mercury the nod over though, so I dunno. < 1204968388 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has some retarded idea for a logical language
< 1204968407 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I'm not sure it's even somehow feasable. < 1204968413 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't that be ... illogical? < 1204968438 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only time will tell! < 1204968488 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Only your mom will tell.) < 1204968519 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zing! < 1204969862 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-75-250.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1204970690 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1204970799 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :JudoBot < 1204970830 0 :JudoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Judofyr < 1204971835 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1204971864 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1204975124 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was there anything TC between the analytical engine and Schofinkel's combinators? < 1204976874 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1204977304 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1204980461 0 :fizzie!n=fis@sesefras.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1204983739 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1204984414 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: you mother, i'm sure < 1204984417 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*your < 1204984423 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r r brokens. < 1204986138 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My mother wasn't born :o* < 1204986255 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1204987121 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1204988756 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: What are Schofinkel's combinators < 1204988785 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regular combinators. < 1204988795 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like S and K? < 1204988799 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And they were created by Schonfinkel < 1204988804 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but just any set which are TC? < 1204988810 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In 1920. < 1204988823 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was S and K back then, yes < 1204988884 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cellular automata aren't turing machines are they? < 1204988922 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're TC. < 1204988932 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, they can be at least. < 1204988939 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think CA are more 60's. < 1204988944 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I get your question < 1204988959 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean to be between e analytical engine and Schofinkel's combinators? < 1204988975 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if anything happened between 1890 and 1920 < 1204988980 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhhh < 1204988987 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The analytical engine was TC, combinators are. < 1204989007 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering if there's anything between the two < 1204989009 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or if there's a 30 years gap < 1204989073 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The analytical engine was 1890? < 1204989146 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1842 < 1204989165 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1204989309 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was in 1890, then? < 1204989383 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"“The Analytical Engine”, paper by Major-General Henry P. Babbage (Charles Babbage's son), read at Bath on September 12th, 1888; published in the Proceedings of the British Association, 1888" < 1204989965 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.227.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1204990840 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1204991402 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a table for INTERCAL's unary operators? < 1204991415 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand the manual < 1204991907 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.80.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1204992541 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are its unary operators? < 1204992633 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, or and xor < 1204992636 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, unary) < 1204992951 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't it do a bit shift left and then and/or/xor or some such? < 1204993007 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From what I understand, it takes the number, uses pairs of 'em and put the result on the first bit of the pair < 1204993043 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although from the examples, I can't tell. < 1204993994 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1204994009 0 :Slereah!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-13-240.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1204994156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1204994163 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi < 1204994175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1204994845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheese. < 1204994855 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know Prolog? < 1204995708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kind of. < 1204995727 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to-derive (append x '() x)) < 1204995727 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to-derive (append (cons x xs) y (cons x zs)) < 1204995727 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (append xs y zs)) < 1204995734 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acceptable syntax? < 1204996238 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1204996266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: no < 1204996271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :verbose. < 1204996274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try this < 1204996284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-> append x '() x) < 1204996305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(-> append (| x xs) y (| x zs) (append xs y zs)) < 1204996320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the extra parens are superflouous, and you really need short names to make prolog readable) < 1204996344 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the arrow is the wrong way :P < 1204996356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: no < 1204996363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a statement -> < 1204996369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> is pointing to the truth < 1204996378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're DEFINING what append is < 1204996392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: Unicode! < 1204996398 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode :o < 1204996398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like this: < 1204996426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(? append x '? x) < 1204996432 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg lol < 1204996436 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ?'s < 1204996442 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arg < 1204996443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1204996443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1204996444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(? append x '? x) < 1204996452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was using the norweigen oerjan-o instead of the empty set symbol < 1204996452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1204996456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: i'll screeny < 1204996457 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you send it in UTF-8? < 1204996460 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1204996465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, i don't know how to tell xchat aqua to be undumb < 1204996491 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to set the option in Server List/Show Details/Connect Options < 1204996498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then reconnect? < 1204996504 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1204996522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: i'll jsut screeny then < 1204996523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1204996533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for Skitch which makes it all nice 'n quick < 1204996562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: http://img.skitch.com/20080308-tabpr4jgrbrx8q85sk8k95yfqi.png < 1204996637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: it's awesome < 1204996638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1204996642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1204996646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could use the |- unicode symbol < 1204996649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For more pretentiousness < 1204996651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I like mine < 1204996662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: Write a mode for $EDITOR that transforms -> into the right symbols for it! < 1204996670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just one that has a command to insert a definition < 1204996691 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm.. yeah .. I should learn to write emacs modes < 1204996702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?-C ===> (? |name| ) < 1204996709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|...| is overwrited < 1204996710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by typing < 1204996717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then a tab or something goes onto the arglist < 1204996724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :() transforms into that O < 1204996808 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I think I steall pretty-lambda from schemem mode to do that < 1204996909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: Um, may I suggest you avoid aligning things in this mode.. < 1204996915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode characters are proportional, in most monospace fonts. < 1204996921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E.g. that /O is wider. < 1204996921 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that sucks :? < 1204996934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: But everyone knows proportional fonts for coding rawk, if the font's good. < 1204996936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BE REVOLUTIONARY < 1204997496 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1204997502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofello. < 1204997512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Thanks, Judofyr. Thudofyr.) < 1204997604 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1204997605 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1204997641 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Judofyr < 1204997651 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Hello :) < 1204998082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BREAKING NEWS -- IDIOT FOUND ON INTERNET < 1204998084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Well, I think that a programming language has to be Turing-complete to be considered a programming language.' < 1204998088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UPDATE AT 11 < 1204998097 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bullshit. < 1204998109 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1204998114 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I:D < 1204998119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: reddit is such fun < 1204998124 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION did not notice 'IDIOT"
< 1204998136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was far better before they switched to python < 1204998137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1204998141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like < 1204998153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Oh cool, it's like a site where - OH MY GOD IT'S LISP I BETTER LEAVE THE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE ALONE' < 1204998162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Oh, it's written in Python? Am gud with Python! HAY GUYZ' < 1204998166 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D :D lol < 1204998178 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true < 1204998243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: of course the latest iteration of the site sucks a lot less than lispit :) < 1204998263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp (good) -> web.py (sucks, because web.py is terrible) -> pylons (awesome) < 1204998271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't personally like Pylons but it sure makes reddit nice < 1204998341 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not seen reddits code < 1204998369 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty trivial if you know dhtml or whatever they do that stuff with < 1204998547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: uhh < 1204998552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit is written in dhtml now? < 1204998565 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know :P < 1204998573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: DHTML is a javascript thingy. < 1204998578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reddit is a whole site. < 1204998582 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean you just need some javascript and the rest is trivial < 1204998585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1204998589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://reddit.com < 1204998599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only JS used is optional, and for the fancy reply box thingies. < 1204998656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, reddit isn't open source, you couldn't look at its source if you wanted to. < 1204998664 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::S < 1204998683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: do you even.. know what reddit is < 1204998691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you imply that reddit is mostly javascript?! < 1204998695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes NO SENSE < 1204998723 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1204998736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: seriously, WTF < 1204998742 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does this disuccsion remind me of a train wreck? < 1204998750 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not up with the latest web 2.0 < 1204998756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :highlight what major part of reddit you believe to be javascript?! < 1204998765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: faxathisia's driving, I guess. < 1204998766 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I could write reddit except for the dynamic HTML stuff < 1204998779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could write it, but not all its features. < 1204998785 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1204998788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. the rating algorithm. < 1204998798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is very finely tuned over years of, you know, loads of traffic. < 1204998819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Theorem: Just because the interface to something is simple, does not mean that the thing itself is simple or easily replicated. < 1204999294 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Does you know what Judofyr means? < 1204999309 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do* < 1204999481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judofyr: noes. < 1204999485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just quoting Look Around You < 1204999498 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyr = guy in norwegian :) < 1204999505 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort fo Karate Kid :P < 1204999510 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of* < 1204999516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, ${name}. Th${name[first_vowel(name)..]}. < 1204999667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: by the way < 1204999675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had this crazy crazy idea last night < 1204999676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's really long < 1204999682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't wanna flood #esoteric < 1204999688 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thaxathisia? < 1204999690 0 :faxathisia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it about? < 1204999698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faxathisia: an esolang < 1204999700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not just a language < 1204999703 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1204999704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's.. ahrd to explain < 1204999709 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try < 1204999712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#nodist, i'll explain there < 1204999714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its long < 1205001567 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1205001633 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, oerjan. < 1205001680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, pikhqoerjan. < 1205001756 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'evening < 1205002618 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip24-255-58-177.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1205003770 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks of a privacy escalation: pty-grabbing. If someone runs sudo from a pty, then sudo usually caches their ability to use sudo there for about 5 mins. There might be a way to exploit this to escalate local to root.
< 1205003972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: there is < 1205003985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why you configure sudos timeout to 0 < 1205004583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, there? < 1205004614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my funge98 interpreter in bash does get to the end of mycology, with a few BAD though, but it doesn't die < 1205004668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and quite a few N/A < 1205004713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as it does no fingerprints at all, and therefore currently reflect on all fingerprints :/) < 1205004770 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is going to write a full Befunge98/08 interpreter in C later
< 1205004852 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab < 1205005216 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION admires type theory notation
< 1205005260 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want readability in my math. I want a hugely complex slightly ugly pile of symbols for maximal intimidation effect. < 1205005278 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :intimidate the muggles! < 1205005408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Most people would agree, sans the 'type theory' part. < 1205005412 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: what are these "Schofinkel's combinators"? < 1205005419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s///ing it with 'maths' < 1205005427 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, nm, I just saw < 1205005497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, btw a question: in the mycology readme, at each extension is listed a hexdecimal number, what is it for? < 1205005667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: its fingerprint code < 1205005675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the 4 ascii chars concatted together in hex < 1205005785 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1205005794 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the algo given in the F98 spec, ISTR < 1205005816 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though F98 has some allowance for longer codes, doesn't it? < 1205005821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: I just kind of know what the relation to a 32-bit number and a four-character code will be instinctively. < 1205005825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So much stuff uses it. :-) < 1205005832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like BCD, except it's ASCII Coded Hex < 1205006006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ahah < 1205006009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha* < 1205006645 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's like BCD, except it's ASCII Coded Hex < 1205006652 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, it's the same in that ... it's coded. < 1205006683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: <_< < 1205006799 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is surprised to find out that most of the humanoid furry things on Sesame street are left-handed
< 1205006875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: It's a conspiracy < 1205006948 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously they come from a mirror world < 1205006971 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are refugees - the only ones that were not evil and had goatees < 1205006980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hahah < 1205006999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric is great < 1205007001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1205007008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, one more subdomain I need -- http://qdb.eso-std.org/ < 1205007118 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: actually, the theory I was reading was that they originated from an island near India, and were brought to NY by a circus (at the time that such things were popular) which failed and abandonned them, < 1205007125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: .. < 1205007132 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.erbzine.com/mag17/1744a.html < 1205007136 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(part 2 of 3) < 1205007156 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read part 1 first, I recommend < 1205007157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats a parody < 1205007158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes?? < 1205007342 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1205007360 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the style's called "ha ha only serious" < 1205007361 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S THE UNTARNISHED TRUTH YOU HEAR < 1205007373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: it's incredibly hard to detect < 1205007373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1205007384 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are taking serious thinking tools to a silly question < 1205007393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which i need a new fscking mighty mouse, I can't use my current one because the teflon got scratched to hell so it grinds along < 1205007402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am *dying* without expose & 3d smooth scrolling < 1205007467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a spoilt mac luser
< 1205007480 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought "ha ha only serious" meant a joke that was more serious than it appeared < 1205007485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: kind of < 1205007503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine a post making ridiculously overboard statements about windows < 1205007509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the basic concept behind them is actually true in windows < 1205007518 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not using a serious style to investigate something foolish, but rather the reverse < 1205007526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1205007534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the essence of 'ha ha only serious' is that to truly define it properly, you need to utilize it < 1205007545 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i fail to see how anything about muppets can qualify :D < 1205007547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which creates somewhat of a bootstrapping problem when nobody well-versed in using it proficiently is to hand < 1205007592 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly it needs to be taught from kindergarten < 1205007602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1205007734 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1205007818 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe "Indeed, if we look at transcripts of Sesame Monsters speech, it is remarkable how transparent it is. Sesame Monsters are almost obsessively focused on the sorts of tasks or skill sets that a frugivore needs to find food - They are fascinated with the difference between one thing and another, with distinguishing objects from groups, they're obsessed with timing, with location, with finding, with counting." < 1205007853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : func.func_globals = MiniFluff(func.func_globals) < 1205007853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TypeError: readonly attribute < 1205007857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my hacks are foiled!!!!! < 1205008101 0 :jix!n=jix@host-091-096-144-022.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1205008243 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hacks at your foils
< 1205008573 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what is that? < 1205008645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: me tryingh to do evil < 1205008655 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what evil? < 1205008658 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python? < 1205008662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pythonic evil < 1205008677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, i'm trying to change a function's closure < 1205008693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have managed to do that now, but am unable to pass arguments to the function I get out < 1205008928 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1205009153 0 :jix!n=jix@host-091-096-144-022.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1205010195 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1205010260 0 :jix!n=jix@mercury.method-missing.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1205011381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1205011386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Nodist's operations may be halting-problem < 1205015830 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is Nodist? < 1205015951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: someone who has #nodist logs will give you the explanation i gave < 1205016037 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the explanation you gave? You didn't explain it to me < 1205016088 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S NEKKID PROGRAMMING < 1205016095 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hawt < 1205016107 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: and why are you trying to modify a function rather than adding __call__ < 1205016110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: I did in #nodist < 1205016115 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1205016117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because the function was given to me < 1205016121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, i know that's horrid < 1205016123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was just feeling evil < 1205016126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was evil-golfing the code < 1205016130 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1205016132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(try to add as much evil as possible) < 1205016144 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get it to work? < 1205016147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1205016148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1205016183 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird has no talent for evil < 1205016186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1205016190 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.80.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1205016191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shitcakes < 1205016193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who just asid what < 1205016208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and SimonRC http://rafb.net/p/fW8hqI64.html < 1205016227 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was insulting you behind your back < 1205016247 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we said, for one time only, the meaning of life < 1205016271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hits ircbrowse.com
< 1205016501 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes a bit of snese < 1205016511 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it seems some of the conversation is missing < 1205016585 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, urbandictionary has a definition for snese < 1205016608 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the verb, though < 1205018541 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1205018937 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1205020231 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving"