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02:00:39 * AnMaster tabs the heisenbug
02:00:44 <AnMaster> from within function "MediaWikiBagOStuff::_doquery". MySQL returned error "1030: Got error 127 from storage engine (localhost)".
02:00:47 <AnMaster> at the wiki
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02:01:13 <AnMaster> I hate sql errors on the wiki
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02:50:50 <AnMaster> RUBE looks like a really cool language
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12:45:32 <Hiato> wassabi all
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16:02:48 <Slereah> Is there a version of BF that accepts unbalanced brackets?
16:03:20 <Slereah> Where [ would just halt the program for 0 and ] send it back to the beginning.
16:04:22 <Slereah> The webarchive for Iota doesn't work anymore.
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16:30:52 <Slereah> Is a string of 1 in jot just ^a^b^c^d... ```abcd... ?
16:38:04 <AnMaster> Deewiant, heh, y with positive values was broken but mycology didn't detect it due to a number of improbably bugs canceled it out for the values mycology tested
16:38:16 <AnMaster> I saw one bug and fixed it and then the rest showed up
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18:06:51 <lament> guys
18:06:59 <lament> do we want to be logged by irseek?
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18:12:41 <Slereah> I dunno. I don't want people to know I have that dead hooker under my bed
18:13:15 <lament> Slereah: the channel is already being logged
18:13:23 <Slereah> OH SHI-
18:13:36 <Slereah> brb, going to Thailand
18:13:46 <lament> the question is whether we want to be logged by irseek as well as by ircbrowse.com
18:13:57 <Slereah> What would be the difference?
18:14:04 <lament> more exposure :)
18:14:46 <marshmallows> Slereah: Why don't you cook and eat it?
18:14:47 <Slereah> I'm sure people are dying to read all about esoteric languages
18:14:59 <Slereah> marshmallows: It might be full of diseases
18:15:00 <lament> well
18:15:14 <marshmallows> yes, hence the cooking stage
18:15:21 <lament> at some point there was a big scandal because irseek was logging channels without permission
18:15:25 <lament> which is against freenode's policy
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18:15:56 <lament> so now they're seeking permission
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18:29:12 <asiekierka> Woah, i wasn't here in a lond time
18:29:14 <asiekierka> long(
18:29:15 <asiekierka> long*
18:29:44 <oerjan> make up your mind, function or pointer? :D
18:30:33 <asiekierka> long is not a function. It's a type.
18:30:34 <Slereah> heh
18:30:37 <asiekierka> so it must be a pointer
18:30:41 <asiekierka> i can still use
18:31:18 <asiekierka> long long
18:31:20 <oerjan> hm...
18:31:32 <asiekierka> I was thinking of an esoteric language that uses only 2 commands:
18:31:38 <asiekierka> "long" and "long long"
18:31:49 * oerjan is unclear on C nested anonymous function type syntax
18:32:08 <olsner> is there any type syntax in C that is clear?
18:32:15 <asiekierka> "long" is a 32-bit value in C, and "long long" is a 64-bit one
18:32:20 <marshmallows> not really ;P
18:32:23 <marshmallows> C syntax is quite terrible
18:32:29 <asiekierka> i think "long long long" is either 96-bit or 128-bit
18:32:51 <olsner> I think long long long doesn't exist at all
18:33:05 <asiekierka> oh
18:33:07 <asiekierka> i see
18:33:11 <marshmallows> it doesn't in C
18:33:11 <asiekierka> so i must create it
18:33:20 <marshmallows> I don't think anyones talking about actual C though..?
18:33:21 <asiekierka> along with "long long long long" and "long long long long long long long long"
18:33:27 <asiekierka> nope.
18:33:45 <olsner> oh, your conversation is not context free
18:33:45 <Slereah> But what will you do with all those longs!
18:33:52 <asiekierka> Also, my language will be called 64L, or "long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long long"
18:33:56 <asiekierka> xD
18:34:16 <asiekierka> It will be created exclusively for the GameBoy Advance
18:34:39 <asiekierka> you separate commands by |.
18:34:46 <asiekierka> long will probably be "rotate IP"
18:34:54 <asiekierka> long long will probably be "execute IP"
18:34:55 <lament> so.. anybody against us being logged by irseek?
18:35:28 <asiekierka> and long long long long will be "magically turn into human" (and since long long long long dosen't exist in C, the interpreter will show an error)
18:35:59 <Slereah> What happens if I type dong?
18:36:11 <asiekierka> ok, some more instructions
18:36:11 <Slereah> Long dong.
18:36:18 <asiekierka> or wait
18:36:31 <asiekierka> i'll make my language have 3 commands, "long", "ding" and
18:36:32 <asiekierka> "dong"
18:36:37 <asiekierka> long is "rotate IP"
18:36:44 <asiekierka> ding is "execute IP"
18:36:56 <asiekierka> what about dong?
18:37:07 <Slereah> It should output this : 8===D
18:37:24 <asiekierka> no
18:37:31 <asiekierka> it will instead make the GBA a mirror
18:37:41 <asiekierka> and i'll call this "a bug"
18:37:46 <Slereah> I don't know much of GB programming
18:39:12 <AnMaster> <lament> so.. anybody against us being logged by irseek?
18:39:13 <AnMaster> yes
18:39:26 <AnMaster> lament, their bots are annoying, often several at once
18:39:40 <AnMaster> bbl food
18:58:13 <asiekierka> which is the best esoteric language with a small amount of commands?
18:58:16 <asiekierka> (excluding BF)
18:59:36 <marshmallows> not really esoteric but 'lambda' is pretty good
19:00:11 <Slereah> Define "best"
19:01:04 <asiekierka> It's fun to make stuff in.
19:01:45 <marshmallows> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda_calculus
19:02:12 <Slereah> Lazy Bird can take in sum lambda
19:02:48 <asiekierka> so, what's fun to make stuff in, from esoteric languages?
19:03:23 <Slereah> Esoteric programming isn't fun. It was designed to break programmers psychologically.
19:04:21 <asiekierka> BF is fun
19:04:40 <oklofok> <asiekierka> "long" is a 32-bit value in C, and "long long" is a 64-bit one <<< these actually defined in the standard nowadays?
19:04:45 <olsner> waterboarding is torture^H^H^Hthe latest esoteric programming language
19:05:06 <oklofok> ah, right.
19:05:09 <marshmallows> the exact bit sizes are not part of any standard
19:05:16 <Slereah> Let's make an esolang based on waterboarding
19:05:26 <Slereah> Every instruction squirts water in your mouth
19:06:37 <asiekierka> Let's make an esolang based on boxing.
19:06:48 <asiekierka> Every instruction punches you, but every instruction is a different place
19:07:05 <asiekierka> B is "punch you in the body", E is "punch you in the eyes", H is "punch you in the head"...
19:07:15 <lament> BEH
19:07:19 <olsner> I believe long is defined to be >= 32 bits and that long long is a non-standard extension
19:07:33 <Slereah> And then, let's see how to make a self-interpreter!
19:07:52 <oklofok> isn't it just short<=int<=long
19:07:53 <asiekierka> it's easy
19:08:06 <asiekierka> M is "punch you in the mind", and it may activate anything
19:08:12 <asiekierka> including a self-self-self-interpreter
19:08:27 <oklofok> asiekierka: try befunge, it's fairly popular here nowadays
19:08:31 <oklofok> thanks to AnMaster and Deewiant
19:08:42 <asiekierka> Befunge?
19:08:43 <oklofok> i mean, quantitively popular
19:08:44 <Slereah> Or Rube!
19:08:44 <asiekierka> why befunge?
19:08:51 <oklofok> befunge is quite fun
19:08:57 <Slereah> Rube seems like a hoot and two yahoos
19:08:57 <asiekierka> What about a language called "Rubeek's Cube"?
19:09:57 <asiekierka> What about a contest to fit the best Befunge-93 program in 10x10 space?
19:10:42 <AnMaster> oklofok, ?
19:10:43 <AnMaster> ??
19:11:33 <asiekierka> is there a befunge tutorial, though?
19:11:50 <Slereah> Probably
19:12:53 <olsner> *but*, is there a monad tutorial in befunge?
19:13:07 <Slereah> Monads don't exist and never will!
19:13:13 <Slereah> Shush
19:15:31 <oklofok> AnMaster: you and Deewiant talk about befunge 24/7, don't try to deny that
19:15:59 <AnMaster> oklofok, we do
19:16:11 <AnMaster> Slereah, yes rube looks interesting
19:16:14 <asiekierka> and i will join
19:16:19 * AnMaster goes back flying in flightsim
19:17:08 <Slereah> It also has a swell online interpreter
19:17:14 <Slereah> And that Lemmings feeling.
19:18:03 <oklofok> the other day i realized i love permutations
19:18:06 <oklofok> they are fucking awesome
19:18:19 <oklofok> perhaps they deserve a languages based on them
19:18:39 <marshmallows> what's good about permutations?
19:18:49 <oklofok> ...good?
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19:18:53 <oklofok> i just like them
19:19:19 <olsner> permutative programming?
19:19:24 <olsner> how'd that look?
19:19:36 <oklofok> lament: nothing wrong with letting people log #esoteric imo
19:19:43 <oklofok> in case you are still collecting opinions
19:19:59 <oklofok> i don't know, but i'm hoping very confusing and weird
19:20:29 <Slereah> No need to hope.
19:21:23 <olsner> maybe the program permutes after each step?
19:22:15 <oklofok> hmm
19:22:36 <oklofok> something like a massive cube, kinda in the movie, which permutes like crazy and occasionally grows in size
19:23:05 <oklofok> and you just specify in which cube to begin, and what size the cube is :O
19:23:35 <oklofok> long story short: awesome shit
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19:29:38 <olsner> maybe if certain cubes has certain side effects (like "print register 0", "increment register 0"), and the program contains a series of commands back/forward/up/down/left/right
19:29:55 <olsner> so you just have to arrange for the IP to traverse the side-effects in the right order
19:30:24 <olsner> and every step or every n steps, the cubes rearrange shuffling the IP with it
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19:31:29 <olsner> as a prestudy you could make a labyrinthine programming language that's the same but without the permutating
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