< 1206665917 0 :okopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1206666189 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1206667757 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"@+" < 1206670552 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy Batman, there's actually a functioning site for Iota http://barker.linguistics.fas.nyu.edu/Stuff/Iota/ < 1206672170 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=saru@219-89-58-116.dialup.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1206674869 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1206680983 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1279282610.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1206683652 0 :adu!n=andrew@pool-71-178-14-80.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1206684908 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1206685390 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1206686202 0 :codechAos!n=7f000001@host87.155.212.3.conversent.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1206686218 0 :codechAos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#triangleparty < 1206686240 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :codechAos: #squareparty < 1206686252 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's much more perpendicular < 1206686256 0 :codechAos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooo < 1206686259 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1206686261 0 :codechAos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are against square < 1206686265 0 :codechAos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*squares < 1206686270 0 :codechAos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its even in the topic < 1206686315 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you see that square is much better? The fundamental 4 CORNER DAYS PROVES 1 DAY 1 GOD IS TAUGHT EVIL I call down a Demonic Curse upon the Evil < 1206686315 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Americans who ignore Earth's 4 Corner Days < 1206686315 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :within a single rotation of 4 quadrant Earth. < 1206686315 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Believing in a God when there is proof that < 1206686315 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no God, dooms humanity to a Hell < 1206686316 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of Horror. America is 1/2 way to it's Hell. < 1206686318 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The American "Bill of Rights" - "Freedom of < 1206686320 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speech", is BullShit. MisEducators suppress < 1206686322 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Time Cube Principle and will not allow < 1206686324 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Students to discuss or debate it's merits and < 1206686326 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :application. Also, the Academic bastards < 1206686328 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will not even allow Time Cube on their web < 1206686332 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sites. On Yahoo, Time Cube - 81,000,000 < 1206686335 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on Google was once 89,000,000 - until < 1206686336 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cut back to 3,000,000 by ignorant believers. < 1206686356 0 :codechAos!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastebin? < 1206688329 0 :codechAos!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1206688799 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1206689772 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi marshmallows < 1206689822 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey adu! < 1206689827 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you < 1206689865 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm rewriting my Prolog interpreter < 1206689866 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :marshmallows: are you an obscurantist? < 1206689900 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm I don't think so < 1206689909 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1206689914 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obscurantism < 1206689921 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I am actually but unintentionally < 1206689931 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 a : < 1206689946 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"deliberate vagueness or abstruseness" < 1206690014 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually mean to paste all that crap btw :/ < 1206690068 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1206690109 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoy reading obscurantism, but only if it highlights the absense of the intense variety within the realm of the time tube < 1206690116 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehehe < 1206690266 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the best obscurantism i've seen tho is political < 1206690332 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, the parts where they go on and on and on about how this one place has weapons, then they go on and on and on about how they are there... < 1206690357 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they briefly mention how they didn't find any... < 1206690380 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they go on and on and on about how they need to be there for other reasons... < 1206690387 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that can happen :p < 1206690410 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1206691199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1206691200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1206692661 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1206692661 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1206693430 0 :atsampson!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1206693809 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1206693817 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My rewrite is ~300 lines < 1206695021 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1206696269 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"im tierd" < 1206699767 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :marshmallows, of what? < 1206699882 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog interpreter < 1206700350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1206700360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any prolog *compiler* btw? < 1206700381 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1206700390 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aquarius is an excellent one < 1206700408 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :complining Prolog is really interesting < 1206700410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still find backtracking weird < 1206700441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and IMO wasting of system resources, it is very time consuming to do backtracking iirc < 1206700845 0 :atsampson!n=ats@7hw.poik.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1206701158 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1206702094 0 :kryptos23!n=kryptos@freenet/developer/kryptos JOIN :#esoteric < 1206703625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I'm working on a protocol for debugger and funge interpreter < 1206703912 0 :Tritonio_!n=Tritonio@150.140.226.184 JOIN :#esoteric < 1206704011 0 :kryptos23!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1206706754 0 :Sukoshi!n=MuneNoKi@user-11fb6jf.dsl.mindspring.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1206706926 0 :Sukoshi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1206710558 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-88-129.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1206711905 0 :Corun!n=Corun@88-108-159-6.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1206713988 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@wads-5-233-27.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1206714467 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1206715573 0 :slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1206715583 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.81.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1206715588 0 :Slereah!n=slereah@ANantes-252-1-69-1.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1206716041 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Judofyr < 1206718994 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.71.247 JOIN :#esoteric < 1206719014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo, bar, baz, quux and zonk < 1206719050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i == true swap [] if that's clever < 1206719218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: prolog's don't do real backtracking that often.. < 1206719220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are clever < 1206719232 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1206719338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, they try and do confusing inferrence stuff that i don't understand to avoid backtracking < 1206719350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :& i do believe that most prolog's backtracking is micro-optimized anyway < 1206719415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1206719422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so i wouldn't worry < 1206719914 0 :okopol!n=oklofok@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1206720308 0 :okopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1206722356 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1206724686 0 :adi11235!i=adrian@86.124.144.150 JOIN :#esoteric < 1206730868 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1206730877 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1206731690 0 :okopol!n=oklofok@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1206731741 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if USAToday are coppying stories from the Onion: http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2006-10-19-skyeurope-minusfare_x.htm
< 1206731789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANK you for flying with us! < 1206731983 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1206732041 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin_@75-166-163-247.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1206732401 0 :okopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1206732425 0 :okopol!n=oklofok@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1206732610 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :peaker is so misguided. < 1206732622 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it is a really beautiful dream :) < 1206732630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I agree < 1206732635 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and will probably happen eventually < 1206732640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree < 1206732660 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes (pub)
< 1206732682 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not for modern programming languages. They're all optimized to be entered as text. < 1206732700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I doubt it will ever happen. Text is mungible, bungible, malleable, storable, movable stuff. < 1206732731 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not really. it's just a bunch of characters. < 1206732740 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: consider writing with a pen on a piece of paper. < 1206732752 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's WAY more free-form than entering text in an editor. < 1206732767 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: in comparison, text is "structured" < 1206732788 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet, we still use it < 1206733183 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i would prefer the revolution to go the less structured way. That's how humans work < 1206733203 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write your program as a bunch of notes on a piece of paper. < 1206733222 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including diagrams, arrows, random doodles, etc < 1206733231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally i'm very happy with the status quo < 1206733242 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then have your editor (presumably a strong AI) sort it out :) < 1206733269 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not. Modern programming languages clearly suck. < 1206733287 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an unambiguous (to a human) description of an algorithm tends to be MUCH shorter than a corresponding program. < 1206733311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: you might want to try K < 1206733313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1206733321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's shorter-than-description you're after < 1206733325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or oklotalk < 1206733327 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not funny < 1206733341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? < 1206733388 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having a bunch of short builtins does not translate to expressivity < 1206733412 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(corollary: paul graham is a moron) < 1206733514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: to be honest the array paradigm of K seems to scale quite well to certain types of problems < 1206733517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i agree with the corollary < 1206733650 0 :okopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1206733831 0 :okopol!n=oklofok@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1206734110 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subtextual.org certainly seems kinda lame < 1206734299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: from a 2sec glance the 'everythign is serializable' is nice < 1206734301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SISC can do that < 1206734305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to write something like that < 1206734310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice < 1206734317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serializing continuations, functions, etc. < 1206734327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could serialize sockets, maybe, in a limited way (store host+port) < 1206734438 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sisc doesn't try to revolutionize programming < 1206734493 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't weirdly visual and stuff :) < 1206734504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: sure, but you can serialize procs&conts&all that < 1206734507 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i really don't understand is why peaker thinks haskell is a good language for his task < 1206734524 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as opposed to, like... scheme) < 1206734546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: he doesn't < 1206734552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember his "int x = y" example? < 1206734709 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, is sisc like, the best scheme out there? < 1206734761 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://reddit.com/info/6dnlu/comments/ seems to lean towards PLT < 1206734953 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLT has a horrendous UI :) < 1206735061 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLT has that typed scheme thing though, and a lot of other packages < 1206735561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: mzscheme = console plt < 1206735568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use it with emacs or w/e < 1206735572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chicken is good too < 1206735575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of libs < 1206735580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, sisc is based on java < 1206735585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both positive and negatiev < 1206735601 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SISC is actually really good but a bit slow compared to others < 1206735610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: DrScheme's actual features are good though < 1206735613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it is a bit ugly < 1206735974 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SISC? < 1206735978 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sisc just seems... clean < 1206735985 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serious instruction set? :o < 1206736016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second Interpreter of Scheme Code < 1206736035 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1206736120 0 :olsner!n=salparot@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.85.194.50.194.stunet.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1206736129 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION so wishes there was ONE scheme implementation :)
< 1206736205 0 :okopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1206736813 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1206737490 0 :adrian__!i=adrian@86.124.144.179 JOIN :#esoteric < 1206738229 0 :adi11235!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1206738603 0 :adrian__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1206739336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/PPXTpdOr this is pretty esoteric :) < 1206739349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :things I want to fix: make it valid C too, instead of just valid shell < 1206739361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fix the program there < 1206739368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should say 'I am ./script.c' < 1206739372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 'I am /tmp/sdfoisudoi' < 1206739377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comments welcome :) < 1206739390 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted this ! < 1206739403 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't bother to do it but it seemed useful earlier < 1206739408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm wait... < 1206739411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :marshmallows: Improving it now < 1206739415 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's nice how you can go < 1206739424 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :// < 1206739427 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a .java f ile < 1206739434 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for appletviewer < 1206739441 0 :adrian__!i=adrian@86.124.144.107 JOIN :#esoteric < 1206739489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :marshmallows: http://codepad.org/2FseWr0r < 1206739507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :removes the file even on compiler failure < 1206739554 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my Prolog interp is -fast- :D < 1206739565 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mutablestate++; < 1206739638 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you're propagating $CODE properly < 1206739695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you're right. just fixed it < 1206739708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/bUixvfvj < 1206739711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a line longer now < 1206739722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm oh wait < 1206739727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't need \n after the comment line < 1206739760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1206739764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/* will always fail in shell? < 1206739766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hopefully? < 1206739766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1206739842 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, it will after a #, that's for sure. < 1206739850 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail to do anything, that is :P < 1206739859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1206739863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean without the #* < 1206739867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It assumes one thing: < 1206739879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't an executable that gets sorted first in / < 1206739899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Currently it starts: < 1206739904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/* 2>/dev/null; < 1206739918 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, I see the quandry. < 1206739923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1206739927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to reduce lines & get it valid c < 1206739935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, if I can get it valid C < 1206739937 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about #define true /*\ntrue < 1206739938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I can remove all my filtering < 1206739945 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, that probably won't work, come to think of it :P < 1206739947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just have it call gcc < 1206740032 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1206740038 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about just #if 0 #endif instead of /* */? < 1206740054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Great idea! < 1206740063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the shebang must be the first line of the file. < 1206740115 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you don't want to be tail'ing that off? :P < 1206740126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahaaa! wait a second!! < 1206740133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define true \ < 1206740133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/sh < 1206740133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#if 0 < 1206740136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except the problem is < 1206740139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to define anything < 1206740141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :solution: undef after that < 1206740151 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, plus the shebang line isn't the first line then? < 1206740158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohh. Crap. < 1206740177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Don't see how to do this :( < 1206740346 0 :RedDak!n=dak@87.18.81.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1206740398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Any thoughts? < 1206740411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, #!foo and #! foo are acceptable < 1206740539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: :/ < 1206740552 0 :adrian__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1206740589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I don't think there's any way to get cc to acecpt it < 1206741024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: It's getting more and more advanced by the minute :p < 1206741029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#if 0 < 1206741029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FILE=`mktemp -t _$(echo "$0" | tr -c [:alnum:] _).XXXXXXXXXX` || exit 1 < 1206741029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if gcc -Wall -xc "$0" -o "$FILE"; then "$FILE" $*; CODE=$?; else CODE=$?; fi < 1206741029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -f $FILE; exit $CODE < 1206741029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#endif < 1206741773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. GregorR, marshmallows: http://codepad.org/09A2RJCH A c-script that turns a c file into a c-script < 1206741827 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what system the remote side runs to get that output. < 1206741853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it's described somewhere < 1206741861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codepad.org/about < 1206741914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Here! http://www.hackerdashery.com/2008/03/scaling-at-2am-with-ec2.html < 1206741929 0 :adrian__!i=adrian@86.124.144.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1206741937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, lots of Amazon C2 services which automatically rewipe themselves regularly < 1206741949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :& all programs under them run under heavy tracing & each in their seperate chroot jail < 1206742825 0 :adi11235!i=adrian@86.124.144.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1206742844 0 :Tritonio_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1206743084 0 :adrian__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1206744157 0 :adi11235!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1206744590 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1206744778 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1206746930 0 :marshmallows!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1206747051 0 :marshmallows!n=vicky@amcant.demon.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1206748485 0 :digital_me!n=digital@wikipedia/Digitalme JOIN :#esoteric < 1206748519 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1206748526 0 :digital_me!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1206748555 0 :bsmntbombdood_!n=gavin_@75-166-163-247.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric