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00:13:53 <pikhq> oklopol: C is very, very simple. That's what makes it fiendishly hard.
00:42:57 <ehird> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Ca110-symbol-separator.png
00:43:00 <ehird> this is a bitchin' image
00:44:05 <Slereah> But rule 34 would be moar arousing :o
00:45:19 <pikhq> Slereah: Not necessarily.
00:45:28 <pikhq> Some rule 34 stuff is an instant erection-killer.
00:46:27 <ehird> pikhq: Some rule 34 stuff can kill an erection that isn't even there.
00:46:44 <ehird> Which is kind of a bizzare concept.
00:47:11 <oklopol> you're erections are just weak.
00:47:13 <ehird> oklopol: that'd involve finding it myself
00:47:21 <ehird> also, it can't be a weak erection if it isn't there now can it
00:47:32 <oklopol> hmm... good point, good point
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04:09:38 <Slereah> "The designers were partially successful; the only known precedent is a machine instruction [6] in a Soviet mainframe computer BESM-6, released in 1967, that is effectively equivalent to INTERCAL's "select" operator."
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05:10:16 <Slereah> I read sexuality into that.
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05:45:49 <bsmntbombdood> esoteric as in "Understood only by a chosen few or an enlightened inner circle.", and not "a useless joke"
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10:26:20 <oklopol> bsmntbombdood: you and your crazy rpn calculator fantacies
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18:40:30 -!- ehird has set topic: o | iskagrel | security by obscupromiscuity | lobotomoritoratiotron supercollider | resistance is fossile | you will be agglomerated | apathy krundig | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric.
18:40:47 <ehird> hah, try singing that aloud
18:41:11 <ehird> "O/Iskagrel/Security by obscupromiscuity/Lobotomoritoratiotron supercollidor/Resistance is fossile/You will be agglomerated/Apathy krundig"
18:41:15 <ehird> it sounds like some kind of pretentious metal lyrics
18:45:37 * olsner lols quietly at "Resistance is fossile/You will be agglomerated"
18:48:41 <ehird> olsner: it truly sounds like something that would be shouted out loudly at a metal concert
18:48:51 <ehird> RESISTANCE IS FOSSILE YOU WILL BE AGGLOMERATED YEAHHHHHHHH
18:49:50 <olsner> heh, when you put it in all caps like that I can actually hear it growled
18:51:31 <ehird> olsner: it's an odd idea, though -- a death metal band that only growls about geek puns
18:51:57 <olsner> it would be truly befitting of #esoteric to produce such a metal band
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19:03:41 * oerjan thinks it's starting to sound like a weirdly geeky religious sect. esoteric in both senses!
19:05:25 * oerjan does not think that this in any way contradicts it being a metal band too
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19:17:51 * olsner bringeth forth the fermented milk
19:19:19 * oerjan googleth that phrase with no result
19:20:41 <olsner> rather, it was a real-time narrative with a twist
19:21:27 * olsner greedily makes hasty work of aforementioned expired milk
19:24:23 <Sgeo> Znlor vg'f abg fhpu n tbbq vqrn gb rng cergmryf juvyr er-ernqvat n fgbel jurer ng gur raq, rirelbar qvrf bs qrulqengvba (lrnu lrnu, fcbvyre sbe uggc://dagz.bet/vaqrk.cuc?snvyher , gung'f jul vg'f va EBG13.. lrf, V'z rivy orpnhfr V onfvpnyyl tbg rirelbar'f vagrerfg hc ol cbfgvat va EBG13..)
19:25:00 <olsner> let me guess, EBG13 stands for ROT13?
19:26:14 <olsner> quick discovery of cipher method is quick :-)
19:26:44 <Sgeo> olsner, you didn't even bother to decrypt what I wrote, did you?
19:26:46 <Deewiant> I can tell that's ROT13 from the letters, and from having seen a lot of ROT13 in my time. :-P
19:27:05 <Sgeo> If "EBG13" wasn'
19:27:13 <fizzie2> The "uggc://" is quite a giveaway, too.
19:27:24 <Deewiant> I actually didn't pay any attention to "EBG13" until olsner pointed it out :-P
19:27:29 <Sgeo> wasn't there, would uggc:// make it quite obvious too, or can people generally tell even without those
19:28:12 <Deewiant> well I can't be sure it's not any other caesar cipher or similar... but it's /usually/ ROT13
19:28:39 * oerjan discovers vim's g? command
19:29:23 * olsner has never attempted to read ROT13'ed text before
19:29:27 <ehird> Sgeo: also, fuck you
19:29:47 <ehird> olsner: his rot13 contained a spoiler
19:30:01 <ehird> so, yeah: fuck you
19:30:10 <Sgeo> The story's been out for a while..
19:30:26 <ehird> Sgeo: so everyone must have read it, right
19:30:31 <Deewiant> it's easy to bookmark it and forget about it
19:30:57 <ehird> Deewiant: i have never forgotten a spoiler
19:31:55 <ehird> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~aleksey/pictures/curry-howard-isomorphism.jpg
19:32:41 <Sgeo> ehird, isn't rot13 normally used to hide spoilers?
19:33:03 <ehird> http://wwwwwwwww.jodi.org/ <-- what the
19:33:19 <ehird> Sgeo: it's worth noting that you could have left out the spoiler perfectly well
19:34:18 <Deewiant> ehird: hmm, stupid thing isn't in a <pre>
19:34:33 <Deewiant> not that I can make much sense of it even when it is
19:34:40 <ehird> Deewiant: it's a link
19:34:47 <ehird> to an extensive website of ... WHAT
19:34:59 <Deewiant> but the illustration itself is interesting :-P
19:37:27 <Deewiant> is the date the site was put up, I would guess.
19:38:04 <ehird> Deewiant: BTW - view source for the ascii art
19:38:27 <Deewiant> because of the "last modified" timestamps visible at http://wwwwwwwww.jodi.org/100cc/hqx/ and http://wwwwwwwww.jodi.org/betalab/img/ for instance
19:38:29 <ehird> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodi
19:38:47 <ehird> appears at first glance to consist of meaningless text, until a glance at the HTML source code reveals detailed diagrams of hydrogen and uranium bombs.
19:38:47 <Deewiant> ehird: and yes, obvious, hence my comment saying that I can't make much sense of it
19:38:51 <ehird> Deewiant: it's a 1995 work
19:39:19 <ehird> They received a Webby Award in the Arts category in 1999; as their mandatory five-word acceptance speech, they exclaimed "Ugly corporate sons of bitches!".
19:57:59 <ehird> Deewiant: Continuation-passing style is hard.
19:58:25 <ehird> I understand it fully.
19:58:30 <ehird> But doing the conversion automatically?
20:08:58 <Sgeo> Hm, I guess I should look for a tutorial for something newer than GTK 2.0?
20:25:11 <ehird> Sgeo: You wrote your first hello world a few days ago. Now you're doing GTK.
20:25:16 <ehird> Jesus christ there are just no words.
20:25:22 <ehird> Not as bad as a kernel module, even so.
20:27:48 <oerjan> next week he'll have SkyNet up and running as a botnet.
20:28:46 <ehird> which he learned the day prior
20:28:50 <ehird> from a 5 minute tutorial
20:30:27 <Sgeo> I have done quite a lot of work with a language that had a very C-like syntax, if that helps
20:31:02 <Sgeo> ehird, are there any graphical toolkits that might be easier?
20:31:36 <ehird> Sgeo: just don't. YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT C YET
20:31:38 <ehird> and that is objective fact
20:31:40 <ehird> for ANYONE at this stage
20:31:49 <ehird> <Sgeo> I have done quite a lot of work with a language that had a very C-like syntax, if that helps <-- No, it doesn't. One bit.
20:38:42 <oerjan> it's the bits that get you. i think.
20:47:57 <Sgeo> Yay I did the exercise suggested by the tutorial
20:48:35 <ehird> No good C programmer thinks they're good enough for stuff like this at this point.
20:49:32 <Sgeo> I need to overcome the disability of relying on GUIs to make GUI applications that I acquired by reading about VB5 at an early age..
20:50:52 <ehird> Sgeo: Don't do it with C at ~5 days.
20:51:08 <ehird> Besides, gtk devs advocate using a graphical designer (Glade) anyway.
20:51:12 <ehird> But more importantly
20:51:20 <ehird> DON'T DO IT WITH C AT ~5 DAYS YOU DON'T KNOW ANYWHERE NEAR ENOUGH C FOR THIS
20:51:24 <ehird> NOR A KERNEL MODULE
20:52:32 <ehird> Deewiant: i can't face being tech support for another sgeo horror
20:52:47 <Deewiant> you don't have to be tech support for him :-P
20:52:50 <Sgeo> "another sgeo horror"?
20:52:59 <ehird> Deewiant: yeah but he spams the channel if i'm not
20:53:19 <Deewiant> there isn't much conversation here anyway, let'im
20:53:45 <ehird> kernel modules at 4 days come on :(
20:54:17 <Deewiant> why not, whatever gets you going
20:54:25 <Deewiant> it might not be complete very soon
20:54:29 <Deewiant> but where's the harm in trying
20:55:17 <ehird> because i know what sgeo's like :<
20:58:16 <Sgeo> Do most GTK+ programs use Glade/
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22:02:35 <SimonRC> I had forgotten that Fine Structure rocks
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22:57:50 <ehird> SimonRC: I haven't started it yet unfortunately.
22:59:02 <Sgeo> ehird, I think I spoiled only one substory >.>
23:18:36 <SimonRC> and that wasn't a terribly bad spoiler
23:19:08 <SimonRC> I found a mine of hilarity: ROM CHECK FAIL
23:19:11 <SimonRC> http://www.tigsource.com/features/vgng/index2.html
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23:19:38 <SimonRC> I kept bursting out in laughter at the ridiculous combinations it came up with
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