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You notice a red aura blinking around you. 17:08:22 no, I am not grateful for the points he gave me :3 17:18:57 -!- oklopol has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:19:07 -!- oklopol has joined. 17:20:37 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 17:21:17 -!- Judofyr has joined. 17:23:31 -!- RedDak has quit (Remote closed the connection). 17:44:31 -!- olsner has joined. 17:47:54 -!- jix has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 18:29:45 -!- augur has changed nick to psygnisfive. 18:54:42 -!- olsner has quit ("Leaving"). 19:45:21 -!- mental has changed nick to lament. 20:16:54 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 20:17:02 * Deformative dives into the turing tarpit. 20:17:05 -!- Judofyr has joined. 20:17:52 Deformative: diving into tarpits is rarely a good idea 20:17:55 are you alright? 20:18:25 It's fun. 20:18:47 which tarpit in particular? 20:18:57 Turing. 20:19:14 hmm... there's more than one Turing tarpit, I think 20:19:46 http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TuringTarpit 20:19:55 Deformative: he knows what a turing tarpit is. 20:21:06 Making a turing tarpit.' 20:21:15 "Shouldn't UnLambdaLanguage and its ilk instead be called a ChurchQuagmire?" 20:21:34 ais523: brilliant 20:21:42 I love wikiwikiweb 20:22:55 Schofinkel's Shinanigans 20:36:03 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 20:36:22 -!- Judofyr has joined. 20:36:51 "One (semi-) popular kind of TuringTarpit are the EsotericProgrammingLanguages, which are often designed as a kind of twisted exercise in humor." 20:37:03 Aren't all turing tarpits esoteric languages in a way? 20:37:21 lambda calculus isn't an esolang, generally speaking 20:39:28 But there's esolangs of LC 20:39:44 yes, there are 20:39:51 hmm... are Lisp/Scheme tarpits? 20:40:19 Depends. 20:40:26 The original LISP is a tarpit. 20:40:38 Or a Church Quagmire, if you will. 20:40:55 It was function definition + six functions + 3 constants. 20:41:16 LISP isn't normally considered an esolang 20:41:40 likewise, P'' isn't, but then Brainfuck, which is less of a tarpit, is 20:41:41 Actual Lisp is full of stuff that makes it usable and not terribly insane. 20:42:01 What's the definition of an esolang then? 20:42:14 I've been wondering about that myself 20:42:31 BANCStar was considered to not be an esolang because it was used commercially 20:42:31 Why does it say that INTERCAL is not minimalistic? 20:42:36 Slereah_: because it isn't 20:42:55 It might not be the most minimalistic languages there is, but it has like less than 20 instructions, I think 20:42:57 it has lots of commands and more operators than it needs 20:43:08 Well, so does Brainfuck. 20:43:32 INTERCAL-72 had ABSTAIN/REINSTATE/IGNORE/REMEMBER and arrays 20:43:38 none of which are needed for TCness 20:43:52 modern INTERCAL doesn't even need variables for TCness 20:44:15 Heh. 20:45:34 Original Lisp had not variables and was TC. 20:45:39 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 20:46:05 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 20:46:07 original lisp had only like 7 instructions and thats _it_ 20:46:14 but it was comprehensible 20:46:24 which i so makes it a .. friendly esolang? :P 20:46:34 OR WAS IT? 20:46:40 ok it wasnt friendly 20:46:55 and most people had all those damn parens 20:47:00 zomg 20:47:08 [21:44:20] But well, plenty of tarpits have instructions that could be disposed off, though 20:47:08 [21:44:48] You can reduce Brainfuck to 3 instructions and Unlambda to two functions. 20:47:08 [21:44:58] * Disconnected 20:47:11 lisp is an evil esolang! :o 20:47:14 Was I saying. 20:47:24 Slereah_: which 3 instructions? 20:47:34 It's on der le wiki 20:47:51 der le wiki lol 20:47:52 ah, I thought the ones on the wiki didn't work 20:47:53 http://esolangs.org/wiki/BF_instruction_minimalization 20:47:55 oh, slereah 20:48:00 where in france are you 20:48:05 ive never asked you before 20:48:21 Nantes. 20:48:43 Well, Bitchanger works, that I know 20:48:50 oic 20:48:59 I never tried anything more reduced 20:49:07 get me some pics of ile feydeau :o 20:49:13 like inside houses and stuff :p 20:49:18 But without IO, Bitchanger is already 4 instructions. 20:49:53 I do not know where Feydeau is. 20:50:00 lame 20:50:30 http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/ÃŽle_Feydeau 20:52:56 http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FunctionalWeenie 20:52:57 Heh. 20:53:27 "Most Lispers happily indulge in unclean things such as side effects, for instance." 20:53:34 Side effects are good >:| 20:53:44 unless you're an haskeller 20:53:54 haskell has no side effects except the IO junk 20:54:03 psygnisfive: even that isn't a side effect 20:54:09 psygnisfive: haskell has no side effects 20:54:11 it is purely functional 20:54:14 they consider it a side effect :) 20:54:16 no they don't 20:54:18 the external world gets dragged through the program inside a monad 20:54:29 they consider it over-used because it conquers laziness 20:54:32 but its not a side effect. 20:54:41 I don't want to get dragged inside a monad. 20:54:47 If it hurts, I'll scream. 20:54:52 well, arguably unsafePerformIO has a side-effect 20:54:58 ehird: cale disagrees with you and says IO is side effects 20:55:02 of generating another RealWorld to perform IO on 20:55:13 so atleast one haskeller considers IO side effects 20:55:16 psygnisfive: it is a side effect 20:55:20 but its not a side effect in haskell 20:55:27 and, FWIW, I am a haskeller 20:55:46 me: they consider it a side effect :) 20:55:46 ehird: no they don't 20:55:52 oh, Feather has no side effects either 20:56:10 you have to send messages out of the program to do output, and receive them from outside to do input 20:56:26 the outside the program is actually inside the program, but you can't see how it's implemented 20:56:31 http://www.codu.org/music/alien-nocturne-2.ogg 20:56:35 "Don't think of Indian food when someone says "curry". Don't think of religion when someone says "church"." 20:56:36 Heh. 20:56:47 oh dude i love indian food 20:56:48 Am I a functional weenie? D: 20:57:03 i wish i had a lamb curry right now 20:57:05 ooooh man 20:57:21 fuck you slereah. fuck you for reminding me of the wonders of indian cuisine. 20:57:50 ah, I transcoded my hello-world-in-Fugue into .ogg 20:57:51 Slereah_: yes you are 20:57:58 so people here can actually hear it 20:58:11 what is your hello-word-in-Fugue?? 20:58:22 let me paste it 20:58:30 ais523: what, in channel? 20:58:36 ehird: how, it's a soundfile 20:58:41 in a pastebin, of course 20:58:49 ais523: I meant literally 20:59:46 :) 20:59:46 Thai curry > Indian curry 20:59:46 http://filebin.ca/jgsege/hworld.ogg 21:00:30 there's something wrong with the volume when I try to stream it 21:02:05 so ais 21:02:11 what is this im listening to 21:02:20 psygnisfive: a hello world program 21:02:26 in what language. 21:02:27 written in Fugue 21:02:29 fugue 21:02:30 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Fugue 21:02:32 oh i see 21:02:42 it was the second program ever written, I think 21:02:45 and I wrote the first one too 21:02:49 "Unlambda enables (read: forces) the developer to write programs using the EssAndKayCombinators." 21:02:56 Heh. 21:03:21 ais523 is the mozart of esolangs. 21:03:33 Or possibly the Grozart. 21:03:52 well, apart from me totally messing up the volume, the music's alright 21:04:02 but a bit mechanical and it jumps around a bit for no obvious reason 21:04:14 can Fugue run any musical piece, or just a limited subset? 21:04:17 and if a subset, what? 21:04:21 HAHAHAHAA godhatesfags.com went web 2.0 21:04:22 http://www.godhatesfags.com/ 21:04:27 or rather 1.7 21:04:29 its a flash-based site 21:04:31 I think it has to be score-readable 21:04:38 so it would be the set of music that doesn't use percussion 21:04:40 God Hates Fags 2.0 (Beta) 21:04:46 also you have to be able to tell one voice from another 21:04:52 some fags may still be present 21:04:59 please see us through our technical difficulties 21:05:10 also, some music may not balance loops correctly 21:05:24 ais: have you ever tried running some bach stuff through it? 21:05:29 he was the god of fugues. 21:05:38 no 21:05:44 I didn't have a compiler, you see 21:05:47 it's not my language 21:05:51 :\ 21:05:59 someone else wrote a compiler, but as it outputs machine code I've never dared use it 21:06:09 it's lament's language, I think 21:06:12 psygnisfive: (yes, ais523 is always like this) 21:06:23 ehird: like what? 21:06:29 I wish. It's MACHINE CODE 21:06:37 it'd be interesting to run bach's stuff through it. 21:06:46 No it would not. 21:06:48 ais, have you read Gödel Escher Bach? 21:06:53 most likely there'd be an unbalanced loop somewhere, or an infinite loop near the start 21:06:56 psygnisfive: yes, several times 21:06:56 It would output random junk. 21:06:58 I like it 21:07:02 i've read it 21:07:02 who cares! 21:07:03 it's fun 21:07:06 but its pseudo-scientific 21:07:14 pseudoscientific? 21:07:16 how do you figure? 21:07:27 im only up to like, 1/3 of the way through, so i cant judge the rest 21:07:34 but so far is just all formal systems stuff. 21:07:42 yeah, it gets more pseudo- near the end 21:07:45 he's a clever guy for sure 21:07:47 ok. 21:07:49 anyway 21:07:51 his theories of the mind just aren't spot on. 21:08:07 the mathematical content is all good, though 21:08:07 the musical offerings 21:08:09 through Fugur 21:08:12 lets do it 21:08:13 :O 21:08:13 :P 21:08:18 and the dialogues are excellent 21:08:20 or Art of the Fugue 21:08:29 Art of the Fugue is wonderful 21:08:32 ais523: the last dialogue BLEW MY MIND 21:08:37 it was on the FLOOR at the end 21:08:50 whats the last dialog? 21:09:08 the one with six voices 21:09:11 if anyone wants Art of the Fugue, i have part of it performed in saxophone. its pretty damn good. 21:09:23 you'd need it in MIDI to run it through a Fugue compiler 21:09:33 unless you expected the compiler to be good at aural dictation 21:09:37 are you serious? lol. 21:09:45 psygnisfive: of course 21:09:48 how can it compile regular audio 21:09:52 it needs the instruments 21:09:54 well, i dont mean to run it through a compiler 21:09:57 i mean to listen to ;) 21:10:10 psygnisfive: anyway, the last dialogue involves people swapping in and out of computers (or rather switching realities involving them) 21:10:16 and the author telling the characters that they are characters 21:10:17 oh i see. 21:10:21 and them denying it 21:10:29 interesting. 21:10:33 you know 21:10:35 that reminds me 21:10:44 one of my pet ideas about how Battlestar Galactica will resolve itself 21:10:54 Person A programs an AI program Person B. They go into separate rooms to do a Turing Test. When it ends, Person B comes back into the room and Person A is the AI on the computer. 21:10:54 is the characters finding out that God/The Gods 21:11:01 really are Ron Moore/The Writers 21:11:02 :3 21:12:09 wellnowwhat.net/transfers/Art%20of%20the%20Fugue%20(sax).mp3 21:12:19 in case you're interested in listening 21:12:39 how awesome would it be if running Bach's fugues in Fugue actually did something cool 21:12:54 lol. like, they were the only possible quines :O 21:12:55 :P 21:13:06 is that even possible in a TC language? 21:13:19 ais523: yes 21:13:20 and Fugue reads/writes ASCII, not music 21:13:33 if (prog in bach_fuges) { print prog; } else { ... } 21:13:42 yes, I know it is, it was me who came up with that example originally, I think 21:13:57 Well, it could write music in ASCII. 21:13:59 just being slightly slow today 21:15:15 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:16:07 OH NO IT'S OERJAN 21:16:08 EVERYBODY RUN 21:16:16 BRAINS.. 21:16:27 FUCKS 21:16:32 brainfuck? 21:16:32 DDD: 21:16:39 Yes. 21:16:43 That was the joke. 21:16:45 BF is probably the most-discussed esolang 21:16:50 I know. I'm ashamed. 21:16:53 not sure whether it or INTERCAL is better known 21:17:10 BF is certainly more implemented 21:17:14 ais523: BF is more known 21:17:15 because it's a lot easier to implement 21:17:21 because random people who know VB joke about BF 21:17:25 and implement crappy versions of it 21:17:29 and say how it took them a week 21:17:30 VB? 21:17:35 (I have first hand experience of this) 21:17:35 hey, I know VB 21:17:36 Slereah_: visual basic 21:17:38 that doesn't mean I use it, though 21:17:45 A week? 21:17:55 Wouldn't it be more like an hour? 21:18:01 VB seems a common language for people who are bad at programming to brag about 21:18:33 I mean, a week is roughly what I did for the BF on the Turing machine, and that's counting the part I did on paper. 21:18:49 does thue allow more than one start string 21:18:50 ? 21:18:53 well, something hard like BF on the 2,3 would take a while 21:18:55 psygnisfive: no 21:19:00 didnt thing so. ok. 21:19:10 Anything on 2,3 would take a while. 21:19:17 well, yes 21:19:24 especially as the resulting program is infinitely long 21:19:35 Well, so's a Turing machine, technically. 21:19:45 Unless you throw in a halt state. 21:19:55 the 2,3 doesn't have a halt state 21:20:04 although you can run it on a half-tape, with falling off the end=halt 21:20:05 Indeed. 21:20:16 Heh. 21:20:23 Would it still be TC? 21:20:27 yes 21:20:32 it took a while to prove that 21:20:39 but I have the proof in the draft version of my paper 21:20:45 i enjoy the fact that thue is just a post production system. 21:20:50 only if you cut off the left half of the tape, though 21:21:03 Oh noes :o 21:21:07 if you cut off the right half, it seems to me a lot less likely that you'd end up with something TC 21:21:28 Would Turing rise from his grave if I cut off the right part? 21:21:36 not particularly 21:21:47 removing features from a language at random quite often destroys TC-ness 21:23:13 But I suppose that, technically, there's a twin of the 2,3 machine, with directions reversed, such that right-cut would still be TC. 21:23:19 ais523 is too clever :( 21:23:20 yes 21:23:22 :P 21:23:32 that was yes to Slereah_, by the way 21:23:56 But you are still smrt 21:24:00 And it is quite awesome that you are here. 21:24:31 hey, #esoteric is how I found out about the 2,3 machine in the first place 21:24:34 someone put it in the topic 21:24:46 Heh. 21:25:16 lament did 21:25:22 How did you discover esoteric then? 21:25:25 unfortunately, lament only takes thanks in the form of gay sex. 21:25:28 Or, to reformulate. 21:25:35 INTERCAL or Brainfuck? 21:25:48 via the 99bob website, originally 21:25:49 I'll give lament many thanks then. 21:25:57 then I ended up here looking up INTERCAL 21:26:11 strangely, I found Wikipedia the same way 21:26:36 strange because finding Wikipedia should not normally be considered a particularly difficult task 21:26:57 I wonder if anyone ever discovered the esolangs through anything else than INTERCAL/Brainfuck 21:27:14 ais523: I tried to find the wikipedia the toher day 21:27:17 whenever I got close it ran away :\ 21:27:27 ehird: which Wikipedia? there's more than 1 21:27:40 "Haigaiz so I herd u talk about bitXtreme here" 21:27:47 ais523: The wiki! Duh. 21:27:50 I was searching for it on the google 21:27:56 English Wikipedia, presumably 21:28:15 ais523: The google has nothing about it. 21:28:21 I even typed THEGOOGLE into a word document 21:28:34 ah, that's where you went wrong 21:28:39 you see, THEGOOGLE is actually 2 words 21:28:43 therefore Word can't handle it 21:28:51 just removing the space isn't enough to fool it 21:29:04 ais523: okay 21:29:11 should I plug in the computer 21:29:44 oh dear, we're in another of those surreal #esoteric conversations again 21:29:50 You're on the interweb 21:29:50 it's good to be home 21:29:56 Your computer is plugged in. 21:30:17 THE CAKE HAS BEEN KIDNAPPED BY NINJAS! 21:30:23 Okay, I'll shut up now. 21:30:41 oh, I thought you were going to spontaneously create another IRP text adventure 21:30:56 It would be a bad idea. 21:31:00 hello 21:31:03 I would need ideas. 21:31:03 no, do it Slereah_! 21:31:03 hi lament 21:31:06 we were discussing Fugue 21:31:07 Hello lament. 21:31:16 Slereah_: idea - fgsfds 21:31:18 I posted a .ogg version of my hello, world program 21:31:24 The subject of thanking you via penises also came up, lament. 21:31:43 -!- lament has set topic: (:NAME "#ethoteric" :TYPE (INTERNATIONAL-HUB (PROGRAMMING-LANGUAGETH ETHOTERIC)) :LOGTH "http://tuneth.org/~nef/logth/ethoteric") -- BUT CLICK HERE FOR LINK IF YOUR BROWTHER DITHLIKETH LITHP! http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric. 21:32:09 yes, i prefer to be thanked in hard currency 21:32:25 Is LITHP a Litht prothethor? 21:32:32 protheththor. 21:32:37 prostater 21:32:45 there's an esolang called LITHP, isn't there 21:32:47 (or is it spelled prothethhor?) 21:32:53 ais523: no, a Lesser Known Language 21:32:53 ah, it was one of the lesser-known programming languages 21:33:05 some of which have since been created 21:33:16 I have an idea for an esolang called Limp. 21:33:47 "This otherwise unremarkable language is distinguished by the absence of an "s" in its character set. Programmers and users must substitute "TH". LITHP is said to be useful in prothething lithtth." 21:33:50 Heh. 21:35:14 shouldn't that be "ith thaid"? 21:35:32 That would just be silly, ais523. 21:36:40 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:37:08 -!- Judofyr has joined. 21:38:26 * oerjan wonders where that "would just be silly" meme comes from 21:38:36 ... it's a meme? 21:38:48 it's a meme? 21:39:13 it gives me a deja vu 21:39:39 I think it's in a Flying Circus or something similar. 21:39:47 that would certainly fit 21:43:20 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:43:26 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 21:44:42 yes, it is a meme, I think 21:44:46 at least, I recognised it 21:44:49 from somewhere 21:44:55 but I'm not sure where 21:45:14 Never seen it as a meme. 21:45:23 This would be a meme, for instance : http://macrochan.org/source/R/A/RAU26W67JPBTTEQYFJ4JSL6OG53QKOW4.jpeg 21:45:30 It just happens to be in my firefox. 21:45:49 maybe it's a failed meme 21:45:54 just like you get genes that die out 21:46:00 it's a potential meme that never caught on 21:46:30 ais523: I think you are referring to the entities known as "4chan posts". 21:46:31 Memes don't die out easily on the internet. 21:46:43 Slereah_: the ones you've heard of, yes 21:47:10 A lot REFUSE TO DIE 21:51:39 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:52:43 -!- Slereah_ has joined. 21:56:23 -!- Phenax has quit (Nick collision from services.). 22:04:12 -!- Iskr has quit ("Leaving"). 22:50:23 Slereah_, like all your base 22:50:35 For great justice. 22:50:47 haha 22:50:52 -!- Slereah has joined. 22:51:04 -!- Slereah_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 22:53:10 mudkips. 22:53:16 what is that meme? 22:53:23 I've never understood it or even known what it is 22:53:29 despite being on the receiving end of it a couple of times 22:53:31 ais523: 'i herd u liek mudkipz' 22:53:34 it's from 4chan 22:53:36 or some other *chan 22:53:38 well, no, it's not 22:53:40 how did it come about? 22:53:43 the originator was somewhere else 22:53:47 at least all-your-base has an interesting history 22:53:47 but then someone morphed it on a *chan 22:53:48 or something 22:53:57 ais523: AYB is not a *chan meme 22:54:24 and besides, sentences like "Somebody set us up the bomb." are just great 22:54:25 ais523: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/So_i_herd_u_liek_mudkip may or may not have details (Since it's Encyclopedia Dramatica, guaranteed to be NSFW) 22:54:28 whereas the mudkips thing is just pointless 22:54:39 AYB is a SA meme 22:54:43 Slereah: 'xactly 22:54:45 SA? 22:54:48 ais523: Something Awful 22:54:50 Which is pretty much the same culture 22:54:50 Something Awful 22:54:52 huge forum 22:54:54 it's a meme everywhere, I think 22:54:56 originator of :psyduck: 22:55:01 yes but it came from SA 22:55:08 actually it came from a computer game 22:55:12 well, yeah 22:55:13 with possibly the worst translation ever 22:55:16 Slereah: not the same culture, really 22:55:27 Also, mudkips are just adorable 22:55:27 I <3 Mudkips. 22:55:42 4chan was actually an offshoot of SA 22:55:48 yes, it was 22:55:54 but SA is slightly less depraved 22:56:00 (slightly.) 22:56:07 Oh so slightly. 22:56:29 Plus, they do charity! 22:56:41 I really loved the "send a million bee to Africa" one. 22:57:46 ah, it seems jay's active again over at PerlNomic 22:57:53 maybe the PNP will end up doing a lot more votes now 22:58:31 ais523, ehird: a quick google shows "mudkip" is some pokemon thingy 22:58:41 yes, I know mudkip's a Pokemon 22:58:44 but why that one in particular? 22:58:46 AnMaster: OH WOW 22:58:47 there are over 350 of them 22:58:52 ais523: there was a real source to it 22:58:56 before the copypasta 22:58:57 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 22:58:58 alas I cannot find it 22:59:13 i.e. a source not intentionally made for a meme 22:59:43 It was some sort of fellow declaring (on DA?) his love for mudkips or something 22:59:51 I don't remember much 23:00:10 something like that 23:00:17 in a very creepy way, presumably 23:00:23 likely involving plushies 23:00:26 (from what I can remember.) 23:01:30 Dramatisation : http://membres.lycos.fr/bewulf/Divers3/1210089733555.png 23:01:42 -!- timotiis_ has joined. 23:01:56 uh, impressive 23:02:00 and vaguely disturbing 23:03:27 Plus, there's actually a bunch of pokemons that made it to memes. 23:03:59 Slereah: seaking 23:04:00 slowpoke 23:04:01 right? 23:04:03 "Spawned from a DeviantArt comment inviting someone to their Pokémon group, the comment basically used the person's apparent like of Mudkips to perhaps entice the user to join their group. Whether or not said person actually joined is unknown." 23:04:07 Mostly, yeah. 23:04:08 Seaking? 23:04:13 FUCK YEAH! 23:04:21 HTF did it get involved in a meme? 23:04:45 From the cesspool that is /v/, from what I can remember. 23:05:31 ais523: SEAKING FUCK YEAH 23:05:42 that makes no sense 23:05:54 ais523: FUCK YEAH. 23:06:05 a forced meme, apparently 23:06:29 "forced meme" is just a way to say that it isn't unanymous. 23:06:50 what does it mean for a meme to be unanimous anyway? 23:06:52 If it's still recognized as a meme, you can be sure there's still hundred of people using it as one. 23:06:53 that hello world sounds quite nice 23:07:07 but it is pretty random still 23:07:08 ais523: no /b/tards complained about it. 23:07:12 so, admittedly, every meme is forced. 23:07:25 Indeed. 23:07:30 oklopol: I like bits of it individually, but it sounds like a bit of a mess when they're all combined 23:08:39 i feel like trying to make it saner 23:13:07 hmm, one way is to cheat and jump up and down all the time to get the sane 23:13:19 because intervals > 6th are nope 23:13:21 *nops 23:13:44 huh? 23:14:11 i'm assuming different voices are... like different instruments? 23:15:01 oklopol: yeah 23:19:47 also there you can use any lengths for the notes 23:19:58 shouldn't be too hard to do pretty much anything 23:23:08 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 23:23:51 -!- Judofyr has joined. 23:25:42 the 2L hello world is so beautiful i could cry 23:25:51 neat, isn't it? 23:26:08 -!- timotiis has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 23:26:47 ah 23:26:48 Time::Piece 23:26:54 does perlnomic have that 23:27:03 it's worth checking whenever you try to use a new module? 23:27:09 also, I'd better check if I have that 23:27:27 ais523: presumably 23:27:31 if it uses Time::localtime 23:27:32 PerlNomic has it 23:27:47 but I don't 23:27:58 DB<5> print localtime(0)->year; 23:27:58 70 23:27:58 yay 23:28:03 so you won't be able to test if you use it 23:28:21 year = years since 1900, incidentally 23:28:34 that's why Perl webapps sometimes write the year as 19108 23:28:37 ais523: move draft in plz 23:28:39 and yes 23:28:42 y2k bug lololz 23:29:08 ais523: lololololo 500 23:29:08 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 23:29:35 sorry, permission fault 23:29:40 I accidentally wrote mv rather than cp 23:29:45 ais523: hmmm 23:29:47 it kind of works 23:29:48 -!- Judofyr has joined. 23:29:53 but no hibernate line? 23:29:57 also I have bitten 23:30:04 oh 23:30:10 p(strong('Last move/bite:'), format_time($move_time)); 23:30:10 p(strong('Last hibernate:'), format_time($hibernate_time)); 23:30:12 spot the fuckup 23:30:18 bitflip pls. 23:30:33 I can't spot the problem there 23:30:56 what change is needed? 23:31:08 ais523: it's at the end of the line 23:31:15 and the indentation may fool you 23:31:23 it's like something the UCC would contain 23:31:24 ehird, what language? 23:31:26 ah, putting it in the print command 23:31:27 AnMaster: Perl 23:31:28 AnMaster: perl 23:31:29 ah 23:31:30 this is for PerlNomic 23:31:35 ais523: it's ; 23:31:36 should be , 23:31:38 hang on, how did this conversation end up in #esoteric 23:31:45 ehird: I noticed that in context, but not from your snippet 23:37:38 -!- ais523 has quit ("(1) DO COME FROM ".2~.2"~#1 WHILE :1 <- "'?.1$.2'~'"':1/.1$.2'~#0"$#65535'"$"'"'&.1$.2'~'#0$#65535'"$#0'~#32767$#1""). 23:43:56 beeer 23:43:56 b 23:48:38 back