< 1212969915 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gaiz < 1212969926 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do I need to display the unicode fellows on my firefox < 1212969927 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1212969929 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1212969930 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a font < 1212969936 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gewgle code2000 < 1212969948 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1212970037 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay :D < 1212970048 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get the stupid never used characters < 1212970057 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :la! < 1212970092 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except... < 1212970099 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not the one I was actually looking for :( < 1212970108 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GREEK ACROPHONIC HERMIONIAN TEN" < 1212970118 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It displays as [10] < 1212970125 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is semantically right, but you know. < 1212970158 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :𐅢 < 1212970203 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a way to search for which police has the char you want? < 1212970358 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :𐅢phat𐅢 < 1212970361 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: which police? < 1212970468 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone with the GREEK ACROPHONIC HERMIONIAN TEN character. < 1212970478 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I suppose I can't be too pciky! < 1212970586 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slereah < 1212970588 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"police"? < 1212970593 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1212970595 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Font. < 1212970600 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Police is in French. < 1212970604 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1212970608 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy frenchy < 1212970634 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats police translated into french? < 1212970636 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polis? < 1212970640 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no tats not french < 1212970646 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too phonetic < 1212970656 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1212970676 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Police is police < 1212970683 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NIQUE LA POLICE < 1212970684 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :peaulice < 1212970773 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do wikis have a way to comment out? < 1212970781 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1212970795 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- maybe? < 1212970813 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. you cant comment things out. < 1212970816 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can delete them. < 1212970843 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause I'd like to keep a greek alphabet in the arithmetica page < 1212970852 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1212970853 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am quite sure i've seen comments, but maybe you cannot have arbitrary things in them < 1212970870 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theres a discussion page, but no comments in the body i dont think < 1212970870 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's easier than to get the letters elsewhere. < 1212970885 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then maybe you should just put in a link to mathematical symbols. < 1212970900 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _know_ i've seen comments in wikipedia < 1212970905 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1212970906 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1212970932 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :html style, i assume < 1212970948 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Commenting page source: < 1212970948 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not shown when viewing page < 1212970948 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * Used to leave comments in a page for future editors. < 1212970948 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * Note that most comments should go on the appropriate Talk page. < 1212970948 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1212970949 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1212970961 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that was it < 1212970974 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works! < 1212970978 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1212970982 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :html commments are valid then < 1212971317 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: < 1212971320 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki syntax is augmented html < 1212971322 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, subset of html < 1212971357 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a superset of a subset, which itself is not a subset. < 1212971358 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1212971380 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, in other words, some HTML + some custom stuff < 1212971661 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1212971691 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Slereah/Arithmetica < 1212971694 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy Batman < 1212971705 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be easier if I could read greek! < 1212971736 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have little idea how he deals with operator precedence or place his abbreviations. < 1212971840 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1212971842 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'We need more people like Ørjan_Johansen.' < 1212971848 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sez the person who removed a spec < 1212971858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because oerjan 'fucked with it' (objected to its copyright which was incompatible with the wiki's) < 1212971867 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is browsin' the wiki, in case youcan't tell < 1212971918 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, found a font. < 1212971932 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unicode fonts for ancient scripts" < 1212971954 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and the guy is highly egotistical < 1212971962 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, um, bigoted: '(grr chinese)' < 1212971971 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he thinks that the chinese are going to steal his esoteric cpu architechture < 1212971975 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they can't be bothered to make their own < 1212971984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that makes it OK to be incompatible with the wiki's licensing < 1212972187 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone have a good reference or intro to building interpreters? < 1212972246 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: sicp < 1212972249 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1212972257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not joking < 1212972263 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the #1 reference text on interpreters & compilers < 1212972265 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :save for the dragon book < 1212972277 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sicp first, then the dragon book for the low-level dirty details (if writing a compiler) < 1212972280 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not writing a compiler, just sicp < 1212972337 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it go over stuff like how to implement recursion using stacks and so on? < 1212972345 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1212972380 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no, because scheme handles that for you. < 1212972388 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about high-level interpreters < 1212972397 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, err, what's complicated about using a stack for recursion? < 1212972401 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :riiiight but im not going to be writing an interpreter in scheme. :P < 1212972403 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of calling a function, push to stack and goto the top < 1212972415 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im going to be writing an interpreter in javascript < 1212972416 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when returning, replace top of stack with value < 1212972418 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1212972425 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: well, javascript does function calls fine < 1212972428 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which, while it lets you do recursion, it doesnt let you do infinite recursion < 1212972428 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to implement your own stack < 1212972432 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1212972437 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has about 100 to 1000 recursions max < 1212972437 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: so do tail call optimization < 1212972441 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1212972446 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tailcalls wont work < 1212972453 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you can't have infinite calls < 1212972455 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RAM is finite < 1212972458 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1212972461 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in principle. < 1212972470 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JS's function call stack is only about 1000 calls deep < 1212972470 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: in principle, js has no recursion limit. < 1212972479 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't say in principle then talk about implementation < 1212972483 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1212972485 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1212972490 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JS has arrays tho < 1212972495 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and arrays can be arbitrarily large < 1212972507 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: js has objects < 1212972509 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use them < 1212972527 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know. but i dont know how to right an interpreter outside of scheme :P < 1212972531 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1212972533 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather < 1212972549 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know how to write an interpreter that doesnt already implicitly handle recursion using recusion < 1212972568 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : handle recursion using recusion < 1212972569 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1212972577 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1212972582 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the metacircular evaluator < 1212972594 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uses its OWN recursion, to handle the recursion of the scheme it's interpreting < 1212972624 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yes, that's standard practice < 1212972628 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with it, use it < 1212972631 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you know what? < 1212972632 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1212972633 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even python uses that < 1212972638 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if i did that with javascript < 1212972641 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl used to use it too < 1212972648 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't interpret anything more than 1000 recursions deep < 1212972653 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: same with the c stack < 1212972657 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python peeps don't have a problem < 1212972658 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor do perler < 1212972659 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1212972683 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i want to use JS arrays as stacks and get a (effectively) arbitrary stack depth < 1212972693 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? just do it < 1212972710 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i dont know HOW to write that kind of interpreter. :P < 1212972756 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you just ... do it < 1212972757 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try it < 1212972762 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1212972763 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho < 1212972767 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know HOW to fucking do it < 1212972768 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1212972784 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1212972785 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do it < 1212972785 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1212972786 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1212972792 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dont make me smack you tusho :P < 1212972797 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1212972801 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need no book to write interpreters, nigga. < 1212972811 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::smacks tusho and slereah:: < 1212973360 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1212973948 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suddenly, I wonder if it would be possible to prove /// Turing-complete based on its compression ability. < 1212973964 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See if it can compress arbitrary Turing machine outputs into their respective Turing machines, I guess. < 1212974019 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1212974022 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ://? < 1212974061 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slashes on the wiki. < 1212974078 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in http://whatever/Slashes < 1212974083 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1212974429 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho or comex: I don't suppose you plan on letting people buy more space for rootnomic (Normic, is it?) in exchange for whatever the nomic itself will give them. < 1212977092 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooooookokokokokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1212977103 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i felt like doing /// the other day < 1212977113 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ended up reading ithkuil < 1212978752 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know if Ilaksh-----'s two-dimensional writing system's been... done? < 1212978762 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[I sense the presence of a cat on the keyboard.] < 1212978823 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol! :o < 1212978849 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you do conlangs? < 1212978866 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: been done? < 1212978873 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: a bit < 1212978881 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you on ZBB? < 1212978884 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: i'm fairly sure it's ready < 1212978888 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no, what is it? < 1212978892 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1212978899 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a conlanger forum < 1212978902 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm mostly doing lojban & developing lalna, my own lang < 1212978909 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for conlangs < 1212978941 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except right now reading ithkuil, thought i'd check it out, since they say it's impossible < 1212978952 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a relatively simple language < 1212978967 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a lot of characters < 1212979005 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ithkuil doesn't even have lambdas afaik) < 1212979018 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what is that about??) < 1212979034 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except it might have them, i've only read like 60% of it) < 1212979036 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1212979046 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(lol @ you too) < 1212979058 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ithkuil doesnt even have lambdas.. you're so adorable :) < 1212979087 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lmfao < 1212979100 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me: heh. you're funny. :) < 1212979100 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DanFrederiksen: I prefer genius but funny too :) < 1212979119 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1212979175 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdas are crucial for communication!! < 1212979187 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1212979218 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not really, i do use quantification occasionally to avoid confusion < 1212979223 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though somewhere < 1212979238 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in everyday speech somewhere in there < 1212979246 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really just scratch the whole sentence < 1212979250 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bit tired < 1212979250 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol < 1212979528 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1212979648 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolguys < 1212979654 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this guy danfrederiksen < 1212979664 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the genius < 1212979667 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinks hes "disproved" evolution with some silliness < 1212979673 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because hes a genius, hes always right < 1212979683 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come join me in #ai so we can make fun of him < 1212979687 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG this is revolutionary < 1212979845 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. i love crazy people :) < 1212979866 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea what kinda guy this guy is < 1212979875 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm you're the one being silly :D < 1212979883 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, i'm mocking him :P < 1212979916 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DanFrederiksen: well, not many before me was able to prove evolution wrong.. < 1212979916 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: uh huh :) < 1212979918 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DanFrederiksen :you naturally assume you would recognize such a proof.. < 1212980131 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna see el proofo < 1212980182 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok: evolution is a purely mechanistic concept. anything outside the mechanistic it could make. we have sensation, a quality that is useless in the mechanistic, ergo we are at least more than mechanistic and ergo evolution didn't make us < 1212980195 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1212980235 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sensation" has no meaning to me < 1212980244 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SENSATION < 1212980245 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1212980248 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something thats SENSATIONAL < 1212980350 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1212980368 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so did you see the Mecofrom dicussion? < 1212980393 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..mecofrom? < 1212980401 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a new esolang we've decided to make < 1212980404 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything has a co < 1212980409 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1212980410 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expressions have coexpressions < 1212980414 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which run in cotime < 1212980419 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is perpendicular to normal time < 1212980421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know all that much about category theory < 1212980425 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tho its not complex time) < 1212980434 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1212980440 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess that sounds interesting < 1212980442 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not about category theory, its just crazy thats all < 1212980457 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-cotime is just time < 1212980461 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but according to the spec < 1212980468 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-cotime is not the same as cocoa-time < 1212980477 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cocoa-time being when the program gives the programmer hot chocolate < 1212980514 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're undecided yet whether the spec should make marshmallows optional or required < 1212980544 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofcourse, co-cocoa-time would have co-marshmallows and the cup would fill as you drank it. < 1212980583 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahem, co-cocoa-time is just coa-time < 1212980599 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats (co-cocoa)-time < 1212980603 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean co-(cocoa-time) < 1212980626 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've decided that co-ality should be distributive too < 1212980632 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of like matrix multiplication < 1212980633 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1212980648 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-( X op Y ) = co-X co-op co-Y < 1212980690 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE ALL INSANE < 1212980717 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-hey co-oerjan < 1212980725 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-how co-are co-you? < 1212980910 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ahem, co-cocoa-time is just coa-time <<< no, it's just a-time. < 1212980914 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1212980918 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, sorry < 1212980923 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't really count to that many, < 1212980960 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1212980971 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :co-co-co-a-time is just co-a-time < 1212980974 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two co-s cancel < 1212981066 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was fun < 1212981081 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes yes, i failed, don't rub it in my face i'm tired and i'm stupid yes i am yes < 1212981136 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his (non)dispute using qualia has been well covered by far smarter people than he < 1212981148 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho he probably doesn't even know who they are ;) < 1212981151 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1212981154 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SICP died on me :( < 1212981178 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, just leave the room :P < 1212981196 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1212981208 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i should < 1212981213 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i can't really < 1212981228 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh just do it < 1212981237 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're finnish, you've got leet skillz like that < 1212981241 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see, his house is buried by a freak snowstorm < 1212981252 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1212981260 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hes finnish, they can walk through snow < 1212981264 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they evolved to deal with it < 1212981297 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have psychological issues < 1212981304 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i cannot leave rooms < 1212981306 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm insane like that < 1212981308 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely mad < 1212981313 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but youre so so pretty it doesnt matter < 1212981329 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah you were right, that is one stupid crackpot < 1212981332 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1212981346 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ai seems to attract them < 1212981348 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know why < 1212981353 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive met atleast 3 so far there < 1212981354 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't even seen my current pics! < 1212981361 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :show me your current pics! :o < 1212981372 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have any < 1212981382 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you cant say i havent seen them < 1212981386 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they dont even exist! < 1212981394 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1212981394 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1212981396 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't not have seen them! < 1212981409 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vacuously true, oklopol. < 1212981409 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm a bit drunk on coffee right now < 1212981412 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they dont exist < 1212981416 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1212981418 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i have seen them and i havent seen them < 1212981418 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :caffeine < 1212981419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1212981428 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee < 1212981436 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take new pics < 1212981446 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1212981453 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you < 1212981458 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1212981459 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok fine < 1212981464 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take nude pics < 1212981518 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :psygnisfive < 1212981568 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, now which is the programmer and which is the gay guy who wants a piece of me? < 1212981591 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1212981603 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think about that for a while < 1212981613 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which what? < 1212981622 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nick) < 1212981637 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOTH. < 1212981661 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am not a living sherry turkle e.g. < 1212981725 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get the reference < 1212981760 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hate non-behaviorists when i'm tired < 1212981777 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't they ban that guy < 1212981778 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should < 1212981780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immediately < 1212981781 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, behaviorism is silly, ofcourse < 1212981787 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he's like... < 1212981794 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hate you when i'm tired < 1212981800 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha ;) < 1212981806 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;;;) < 1212981821 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you love me when you're not < 1212981822 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unf unf unf < 1212981848 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfunfunf < 1212981914 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY I LOVE MUDKIPS < 1212981956 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool kips < 1212981970 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool kips on the block < 1212984518 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i'm cool < 1212984523 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what i mean by that is < 1212984526 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i should start getting home < 1212984769 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye! < 1212984770 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )" < 1212984818 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1212984818 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1212984819 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1212984924 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1212985204 0 :psygnisfive!n=augur@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1212985204 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1212985204 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@71.237.179.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1212985206 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1212985207 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1212985260 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1212985270 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :psygnisfive < 1212985284 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1212985831 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1212986132 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1212986241 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1212986848 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1212987439 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello!! < 1212987442 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name is botte and I am young but learning the ways of the BOT! < 1212987445 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish to be a bot on the irc network of free nodes! I am BOTTE and I stand PROUD HERE TODAY!!!! < 1212987448 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you accept me in to your HACKER CIRCLE where I will hack and bot! < 1212987451 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you!!! < 1212987454 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p.s. I am not up yet but I will be!! I am botte! < 1212987455 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1212987456 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1212987470 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt? < 1212987807 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some twat who has my name < 1212987851 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: so perhaps you? < 1212987864 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. fuck him. < 1212988184 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1212988308 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@71.237.179.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1212988659 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1212989195 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@71.237.179.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1212989636 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1212990197 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@71.237.179.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1212990496 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1212990821 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, you know JS? < 1212990958 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript? < 1212990999 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, you've already asked, and i know it somewhat < 1212991038 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@71.237.179.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1212991123 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to sleep in two minutes, so be fast :D < 1212991280 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nigteh! < 1212991281 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1212991624 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we shall work together on a project. < 1212991624 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats your aim screenname or something? :P < 1212991819 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nigteh? lol < 1212992937 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1212993496 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@71.237.179.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1212998399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1212998400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1213005156 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm|--0@219-89-40-21.dialup.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1213007865 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213007874 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1213008268 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Saliendo" < 1213008845 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-54-75.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1213010236 0 :Hiato1!n=Hiato@dsl-245-54-75.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1213010351 0 :ais523!n=ais523@sm01-fap06.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1213010358 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host66-88-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1213010933 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@sm01-fap06.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1213011078 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1213011082 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1213011335 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1213011855 0 :cherez1!n=cherez@cpe-76-167-242-249.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213015172 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1213017567 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1213017978 0 :Polar!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :leguin.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1213018002 0 :Polar!i=polar@arunprasannan.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213018077 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wades through the corpses to check if anyone is still breathing < 1213018117 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1213018131 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It lives! < 1213018168 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: May I enquire as to how much linguistics tickles you? < 1213018291 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, essentially, would you do me a favour and peep around http://eyo.icr38.net/phorum/ ? < 1213018635 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, are you BANNED or something? < 1213018654 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This forum has a total of 8 posts. < 1213018670 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*turtle < 1213018806 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I'm alive! < 1213018834 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1213018893 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kills ihope < 1213018906 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I'm dead! < 1213018915 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like novelty, you see. < 1213019071 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION resurrects ihope < 1213019105 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I'm undead! < 1213019186 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1213019198 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, the greeks had a 0 :D < 1213019212 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@AMarseille-151-1-47-142.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213019218 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1213020238 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?" < 1213020278 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure." < 1213020292 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My balls itch" < 1213020549 0 :ais523!n=ais523@sm01-fap06.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1213020869 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello sir < 1213020937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1213021845 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213023277 0 :pikhq!n=Pikhq@asst01.asunix.tufts.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1213025449 0 :cherez1!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cherez < 1213026037 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.68.111 JOIN :#esoteric < 1213026059 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird < 1213026067 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen the latest stuff going on over at Agora? < 1213026092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shi < 1213026097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kb < 1213026106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you typing, then? < 1213026108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run out battry < 1213026115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :onscreen < 1213026130 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, that must be tricky < 1213026133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tjisvis mac < 1213026136 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I've done it myself from time to time < 1213026136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1213026148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mac has wyrleskvb < 1213026161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :buti lrft on < 1213026167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so die < 1213026171 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to have a wireless mouse < 1213026174 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but got a wired one for that reason < 1213026192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wishb it waasmose... < 1213026284 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it was a serious comment about Agora < 1213026292 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people there thought you weren't getting messages < 1213026296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tried to deactivate you < 1213026299 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've blocked that < 1213026308 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, you're still active < 1213026308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1213026312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1213026320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's being done on the backup lists < 1213026322 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the main ones < 1213026324 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the moment < 1213026349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh why < 1213026360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not subd 2thm < 1213026361 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the main ones are down, that's the usual reason to use a backup list < 1213026387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hhhhhhsas < 1213026430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whwerr fuckinn batrys < 1213026512 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is amused at what on-screen typing looks like, it's almost as if ehird is drunk < 1213026533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i am///// < 1213026536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1213026542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no shift < 1213026547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lollers < 1213026554 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: anyway I did vote FOR on your AGORA proposal on PerlNomic in the en < 1213026556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/d/ < 1213026566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so as to cause the PNP to submit the FOR vote to a-b when it was down < 1213026567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1213026571 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because I wanted to see what would happen < 1213026575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darmn < 1213026580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuk u ; < 1213026589 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I've CFJd on the statement that it voted validly < 1213026616 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see archives < 1213026628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cantb ty[pe < 1213026635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll give you a link < 1213026639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hard 2do dat < 1213026655 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://listserver.tue.nl/mailman/private/agora/ < 1213026661 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one works even without subscription < 1213026667 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's where I'm mostly posting at the moment < 1213026872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fukkinhwellll < 1213026904 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main lists are down? < 1213026910 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: yes < 1213026930 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just posted to tue, though, so you must have posting to backups working < 1213026934 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use the backup list. < 1213026942 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two of them < 1213026944 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tue and yoyo < 1213026945 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes, they are. < 1213026945 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is on a different server. < 1213026953 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, are you subscribed to the backup lists? < 1213026965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1213027080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jthfhtgfjc[ < 1213027088 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subscribe to them. < 1213027098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: what, without a keyboard? < 1213027100 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be difficult < 1213027125 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't suppose your on-screen keyboard has common digraphs and trigraphs. < 1213027167 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the return of the ehird, part I < 1213027168 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am back < 1213027178 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No *keyboard*? Ouch. < 1213027180 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Slereah for that matter < 1213027181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato1: an ehird without a keyboard, it seems < 1213027187 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1213027199 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was under the impression computers didn't even boot without a keyboard < 1213027208 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe that's just PCs, probably Macs are different < 1213027219 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah7: In answer to a question you posed way earlier: no, I'm not banned, but are you interested ? < 1213027239 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I be? < 1213027252 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I must disagree here, I even managed to dupe it past the post without anything but a cpu connected. How could I tell, the beeping was right :P < 1213027261 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: That's only certain BIOSes. < 1213027261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1213027263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyboard < 1213027265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDD < 1213027268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ah < 1213027268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was already booted < 1213027271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just took it off standby < 1213027273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tusho < 1213027273 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's why I asked if linguistics interested you :P < 1213027275 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I guessed < 1213027277 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1213027293 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck. I hate this keyboard, I just remembered. < 1213027299 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to do dances to get a # < 1213027301 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough that I actually want to do it :o < 1213027303 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alt-3. < 1213027316 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right o slereah7 :P < 1213027341 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho/ehird, whoever you be, is that a legendary DVORAK keyboard? :P < 1213027359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1213027361 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an apple british one < 1213027363 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1213027364 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it FUCKING SUCKS < 1213027370 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right heh :) < 1213027372 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: imagine < 1213027375 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to comment out something < 1213027376 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alt-3 < 1213027380 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt-fucking-3 < 1213027387 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and alt is where the windows key is on most keyboards < 1213027389 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: time to get your emacs-fu ready, then < 1213027390 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it happens < 1213027391 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCKING THING SUCKS < 1213027399 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, I think it's time to remap < 1213027413 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately < 1213027417 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must type £ as well < 1213027422 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this has less keys than normal keyboards < 1213027424 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cuts himself < 1213027455 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#### < 1213027455 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1213027460 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be careful, you might just see you... never-mind, you already did :P < 1213027462 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now I need alt-3 to get £ < 1213027467 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cu < 1213027473 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: though I don't type £ that much < 1213027474 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yay < 1213027477 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither do I < 1213027484 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I'm happy now < 1213027492 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I do have a soft spot for that shitty crashy thing < 1213027494 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, I once worked for a while on a keyboard on which neither B nor Y were working < 1213027495 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how much that doggy is on the window, and whether tusho can tell him < 1213027500 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a BBC micro, which had no persistence < 1213027502 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato1: £4 < 1213027513 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1213027518 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fuddles about with os x < 1213027524 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I think I'm comfortable with it now < 1213027530 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ready to take on the world, and do lots of eso-things < 1213027532 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to do stuff like mess around with Basic programs which printed out Y from its character code, just to generate the character to remap it < 1213027542 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how would you explain to people which keys were not functioning? :P < 1213027550 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato1: the onle between t and u < 1213027552 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*one < 1213027556 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now < 1213027557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato1: CHR$(ASC("Z")-1) is what I did < 1213027561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then mapped that to an f-key < 1213027561 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which backups lists do I need to dubscribe to < 1213027562 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, fair enough < 1213027567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: tue and yoyo < 1213027570 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: links? < 1213027572 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both linked from http://agoranomic.org < 1213027590 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think we've lost a special bond now that my computer doesn't crash when you arrive. < 1213027596 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agoranomic.org is down < 1213027615 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it isn't unless I have it cached, but I'll link them separately anyway < 1213027622 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.listserver.tue.nl/mailman/listinfo/agora < 1213027627 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://yoyo.its.monash.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/nomic < 1213027629 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and FGSFDS: Mail.app doesn't recognize my gmail labels < 1213027639 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta do it man-you-all-ee < 1213027654 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1213027658 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get gmail thru pop < 1213027659 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not imap < 1213027663 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION done fixit < 1213027770 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you aren't a member of PerlNomic? < 1213027775 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1213027778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mildly surprised at that < 1213027778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know Perl. < 1213027779 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1213027790 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: quite a few people there don't, AFAICT < 1213027794 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I translated the rules into English < 1213027802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make it user-friendly for non-Perlers < 1213027813 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a bad idea. < 1213027825 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd rather learn Perl first, and make horridly obscure rules. :p < 1213027833 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21353214;[], anyone? < 1213027844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's a NOP < 1213027852 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1213027854 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except you need to write something after the comma < 1213027856 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to make it grammatical < 1213027872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That's almost syntactically well-formed? < 1213027874 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shudders < 1213027879 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you have there is "ignore the number 21353214, then create a reference to an empty list and discard it, then" < 1213027890 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps the PNP should post to all three servers at once. < 1213027892 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1213027892 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrugs < 1213027892 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which almost makes sense but ends halfway through a statement < 1213027893 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just < 1213027896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1213027898 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21353214; [], a; < 1213027911 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: C almost supports that < 1213027914 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it supported [] list syntax < 1213027914 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that's wrong under use strict < 1213027914 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would < 1213027923 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Doesn't make it any better. ;) < 1213027924 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a was a placeholder < 1213027924 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try using $a instead < 1213027932 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, unless you have a function called a < 1213027979 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: luckily Perl's garbage-collected or your [] would be a memory leak < 1213027982 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHAHA MAIL.APP FAILS AT IMAP AND GMAIL < 1213027987 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's refcounted < 1213027990 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :big diff ;) < 1213027999 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: refcounting's a sort of garbage-collection < 1213028006 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reference counting is considered a form of garbage collection. < 1213028007 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a general one but good enough in many cases < 1213028012 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I made any posts to yoyo that you can see? < 1213028013 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: only by sillies < 1213028024 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very, very simple one, mind, but a form, nevertheless. < 1213028028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I've got one you posted to tue, but none to yoyo < 1213028069 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, your posts to yoyo went through < 1213028069 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I was having yoyo problems then < 1213028070 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahahhahahahahaha, I don't have an Inbox < 1213028070 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I've now sorted < 1213028082 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I can only have All Mail < 1213028082 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or similar < 1213028082 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be precise, I'd subscribed to tue but not yoyo... < 1213028192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: subscribed yet? < 1213028211 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm still fixing mail.app < 1213028215 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gmail's imap is uh BROKEN < 1213028219 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to put it lightly < 1213028284 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ < 1213028286 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck mail.app < 1213028289 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'ma use the web interface < 1213028308 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's not TOATLLY BROKEN < 1213028338 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool, Gmail tries to resend messages if it can't connect to the server. < 1213028352 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoyo link plz ihope < 1213028368 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://yoyo.its.monash.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/nomic (although I'm not ihope) < 1213028398 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1213028399 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant ais523 < 1213028443 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did I miss anything? < 1213028449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet was down for a few seconds < 1213028475 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link to yoyo & tue archives? < 1213028496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you can't follow links from the pages I just linked, I can paste them for you < 1213028513 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://listserver.tue.nl/mailman/private/agora/ (tue) < 1213028525 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :already read that one < 1213028528 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need the yoyo one < 1213028553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some reason yoyo's just started timing out on me < 1213028556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then, so has B Nomic < 1213028560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I think it's my connection < 1213028569 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, look, I did apologise < 1213028571 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's kind of them < 1213028572 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://yoyo.its.monash.edu.au/pipermail/nomic/ < 1213028607 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did I recommend that ehird do something? < 1213028616 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not AFAIR < 1213028640 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the actual addresses for yoyo and tue? < 1213028649 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to set up a filter for my label < 1213028660 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agora@listserver.tue.nl (agora-bounces for the return) < 1213028684 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nomic@yoyo.its.monash.edu.au (nomic-bounces for the return) < 1213028692 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just filtered BAK: in the subject, though < 1213028739 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"what, without a keyboard" would seem to be an appropriate response to such a thing, and I don't know why else you would say it. < 1213028742 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the return? < 1213028759 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I have a kb now, ihope < 1213028782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: it was a response to a quesiton, rather than a recommendation < 1213028796 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you asked if ehird was subscribed, and I said it would be difficult without a keyboard < 1213028831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you know what I love? Consistent clipboard behaviour. <3 < 1213028853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, it's nice < 1213028864 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-054-104.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1213028932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Cmd-c, cmd-v. < 1213028935 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing else. Excellent. < 1213028960 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Select, middle click. Wonderful. < 1213028964 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. I wonder why my messages are coming in in chunks. < 1213028977 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you all just decided to say lots and lots within one second. < 1213029029 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And, uh, ctrl-c. < 1213029031 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ctrl-v. < 1213029035 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ctrl-shift-c/v for terminals. < 1213029040 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and those clipboards are seperate! < 1213029049 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I use KDE. . . < 1213029071 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KDE's clipboard is, at least on my system, set to be integrated with the X11 clipboard. < 1213029086 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I just have the one clipboard, really. < 1213029101 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At the moment, I'm getting a block of messages every two minutes. < 1213029118 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1213029134 0 :ais523!n=ais523@sm01-fap06.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1213029156 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rehi < 1213029183 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rehi < 1213029227 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rehi < 1213029382 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm leaving for a bit; I'll be back in maybe about an hour < 1213029406 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1213029438 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523, how would you xplain to popl which kys wr not functioning? :P < 1213029471 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simpl, of cours. < 1213029531 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice ihope :) < 1213029614 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.82.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]" < 1213029694 0 :Hiato1!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1213029712 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-54-75.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1213031226 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1213031560 0 :kar8ng1!n=kar8nga@AMarseille-151-1-40-197.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213031592 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1213031765 0 :kar8ng1!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1213031781 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@AMarseille-151-1-40-197.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213032129 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-72-183.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1213033525 0 :ais523!n=ais523@sm01-fap06.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1213033592 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1213033592 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1213033707 0 :ais523!n=ais523@sm01-fap06.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1213033762 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone < 1213033780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially tusho < 1213033785 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1213033796 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a special one, 'cause I didn't get one. < 1213033799 0 :Slereah7!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Slereah < 1213033812 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, tusho tends to be fastest at saying hi to me < 1213033823 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a special hi to Slereah as they were fastest this time < 1213033893 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D* < 1213034028 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1213034031 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't xchat beep? < 1213034049 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1213034074 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you touch yourself at night. < 1213034109 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: So does xchat < 1213034126 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did we get 3 new users today? < 1213034144 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki seems to be quite active nowadays. < 1213034176 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm trying to check < 1213034185 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my web access seems ridiculously slow for some reason < 1213034191 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC seems to be fine, though < 1213034208 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get that a lot < 1213034214 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ditto < 1213034770 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION groaneth < 1213034776 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: why? < 1213034791 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having to lug a CRT monitor around is not fun. < 1213034792 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, why'd you do it? Hey? :P < 1213034799 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially in the middle of a heat wave. < 1213034822 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gladly swap, lugging around an LCD in subzero (kelvin :P) < 1213034831 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*celcius < 1213034846 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1213034850 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typoing kelvin for celcius < 1213034854 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the context of sub-zero < 1213034855 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :priceless < 1213034865 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. I have a coat, but I'm afraid I don't have personal air conditioning. < 1213034867 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1213034880 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, no deal then pikhq < 1213034881 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I hail from Colorado. The *cold* isn't that big of a deal. ;) < 1213034923 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well aren't you high and mighty? :P < 1213034950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mile high. ;) < 1213035127 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1213035726 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The windows 3.1 Hot Dog Stand theme, XP version: http://jgroome.com/killmenow.jpg < 1213035727 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Via reddit) < 1213036050 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMFG, that hurts. < 1213036061 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it hurt just as badly in Windows 3.1. . . < 1213036696 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213036944 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was odd, when he leaves it's not usually by peer < 1213036949 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's not usually at this time < 1213037056 0 :ais523!n=ais523@sm01-fap06.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1213037131 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, there < 1213037141 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, connection troubles < 1213037242 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're all excused. < 1213037361 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I did, but in a different channel < 1213037374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although this isn't really "saying", more typing < 1213038856 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@AMarseille-151-1-31-190.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213041734 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1213042131 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1213036183625.png < 1213042133 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Omnomnom < 1213042683 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: to comment out something | tusho: Alt-3 <<< you usually have it in one keypress? < 1213042703 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: e means putting # at the start of a line of Perl to comment it out < 1213042769 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213042789 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: I do, yes < 1213042802 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1213043023 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've used that theme! < 1213043035 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: duh < 1213043052 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"#" is one of the most used commenting-out characters < 1213043061 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: yes, I know < 1213043069 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and # is one keypress on this keyboard < 1213043075 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to mention shift is easier to find than alt < 1213043080 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying you should know i know, which you implied you didn't < 1213043125 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, I've got it nicer now < 1213043127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shift-3=# < 1213043129 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alt-3=£ < 1213043133 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of the other way around < 1213043160 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :£ < 1213043164 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same here < 1213043175 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :££££££ < 1213043190 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What character is that? < 1213043195 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does not display here < 1213043196 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :£f£f£f£f£ < 1213043201 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: It is 'magic wand'. < 1213043208 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :££ZAP££ < 1213043225 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic wand < 1213044181 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1213044935 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I found a program to help with my huge diffing problem I had recently < 1213044945 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the interdiff command is capable of diffing diffs < 1213044948 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1213044949 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and therefore makes a diff4 possible < 1213045146 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, diffing diffs! I'd like that < 1213045290 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213045328 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1213045346 0 :RedDak!n=dak@host66-88-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1213046063 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1213046069 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Music seems to make me less productive when coding. < 1213046127 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As opposed to... More productive? < 1213046135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: That's the case with most people. < 1213046258 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not me. < 1213046260 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It distracts me. < 1213046299 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently instrumental music is better for coding < 1213046332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I often have music when coding, actually < 1213046384 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with my music is that since my tastes are so eclectic I end up skipping a lot to find something I want to hear < 1213046389 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Playlists? What are they? Shut up.) < 1213046397 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I use playlists < 1213046564 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I know what I'm doing and just have to type it in, music usually makes me more productive (or at least *feel* more productive) < 1213046595 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when it's mostly mulling over and figuring out how to do something, silence is usually best < 1213047186 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I feel your pain :) (I know it's delayed, but it happens) < 1213047449 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try listening to noise of various spectra instead of music. :-) < 1213047449 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213047465 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I think they call that merzbow < 1213047484 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@cE699BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1213047494 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spectral radiation listening :) < 1213047503 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that is to say astronomical < 1213047514 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, so everybody who's listening will get pretty much the same noise. < 1213047528 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiato: I was joking. < 1213047551 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming we live in the same dimension (which is debatable to say the least), ihope < 1213047563 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: :P < 1213047599 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm living in about 6 feet 3. You? < 1213047600 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merzbow is, alas, something I cannot stomach. < 1213047602 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, why is that alas? It's noise! < 1213047603 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, a definite 42 < 1213047613 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe, well put :) < 1213047647 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was that Greek composer that delved into the field of "accidental composition and recital"? That was noise :) < 1213048063 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, you know ehird was talking about lazy typed rewriting langs? < 1213048067 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I thought up a way it was possible < 1213048081 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes? < 1213048083 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it requires not only lazy and typed, but also declarative < 1213048086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1213048102 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you hear how I made it ref.trans and functional while still allowing IO? < 1213048105 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laziness is done by backward chaining of refriting rules < 1213048106 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like monads, but rewriting-based < 1213048117 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a good base for the eso os, I think < 1213048126 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so rules only run if they're needed to give a result < 1213048128 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no, I don't think so < 1213048133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if the ideas could be combined < 1213048146 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1213048151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to produce a lazy declarative functional typed referentially transparent rewriting language < 1213048167 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and then, write a C implementation that exposes dangerous primitives < 1213048169 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and.. ESO OS! < 1213048185 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: installing a program == the OS rewrites itself to include the program < 1213048192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, my idea's horrendously inefficient < 1213048200 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can overwrite anything in the OS at runtime < 1213048202 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just rewrites itself < 1213048205 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it requires a brute-force search to do anything, at present < 1213048212 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm sure you can optimize it somehow. < 1213048216 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, cuts < 1213048310 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1213048332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you could have rewriting rules that always reverse-fail, but tell it not to consider other rewriting rules < 1213048354 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1213048357 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a prolog-style inferrence engine < 1213048359 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse-fail here means that although they would produce the right result, there's no way that the thing being rewritten could come about in the first place < 1213048853 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1213048906 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :TheCorun < 1213048981 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1213050287 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1213050295 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does select(1) allow you to detect the socket being closed? < 1213050302 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes < 1213050305 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1213050316 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it returns an event on that socket < 1213050326 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember whether it also errors itself < 1213050339 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whether you have to check for error explicitly on the socket < 1213050360 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1213050376 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, I think I have a good model for this < 1213050390 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm making everything callbacks and not hardcoding any sort of event handling (not even connection stuff) < 1213050391 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if select says it's readable, but reads or ioctls say it doesn't have readable data, that means the socket's closed, iirc < 1213050392 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a good model? < 1213050423 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then Botte itself will subclass Client and handle those things < 1213050424 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and server sockets need different handling of course < 1213050430 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by adding the appropriate events < 1213050567 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-37-77.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1213051588 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1213053733 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"(1) DO COME FROM ".2~.2"~#1 WHILE :1 <- "'?.1$.2'~'"':1/.1$.2'~#0"$#65535'"$"'"'&.1$.2'~'#0$#65535'"$#0'~#32767$#1"" < 1213055111 0 :RedDak!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1213055250 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1213055738 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ"