< 1215734406 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: 'internet' < 1215734422 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm|--0@219-89-42-163.dialup.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1215734431 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i was referring to the nick, dunno. < 1215734436 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i could be female < 1215734437 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i? < 1215734459 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DONT KNOW < 1215734462 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG HAVE I RAPED A GIRL? < 1215734463 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::cries:: < 1215734475 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are ya? 12-yr-olds are the best :o < 1215734495 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 year old girls, boo. < 1215734504 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 year old boys, thats where its at < 1215734507 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1215734512 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you and your silly funs < 1215734520 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM AFRAID SO AUGUR < 1215734527 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::silly funs oklofok:: < 1215734546 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUN FOR YOUR LIFE < 1215734645 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::lovelove:: < 1215736693 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Only if you're a priest. < 1215736709 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the boy need not be an altar boy, though it is prefered) < 1215736714 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1215736717 0 :wookie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1215736725 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 12 year old boys are still fun to rape over the internets < 1215739291 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1215740447 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1215740732 0 :Slereah__!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-16-189.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215740935 0 :oklopol!i=oko@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215741130 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1215741150 0 :Slereah_!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-16-189.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215741158 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1215741466 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://flickr.com/photos/psygnisfive/collections/72157606093628410/ < 1215741475 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my trip in europe so far :D < 1215742207 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215743331 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get your ass here you faggot queer < 1215744092 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215746262 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215746841 0 :cherez!n=cherez@cpe-76-167-242-249.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215749710 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242399191.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1215751979 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1215754631 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215754658 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@71.237.179.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215756140 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1215756731 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756732 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756735 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net 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irc.freenode.net < 1215756739 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756739 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756739 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756739 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756740 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756741 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756741 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756742 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215756742 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1215757108 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@71.237.179.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :cherez!n=cherez@cpe-76-167-242-249.socal.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :oklopol!i=oko@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm|--0@219-89-42-163.dialup.xtra.co.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :fizzie!n=fis@sesefras.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :lifthras1ir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :shachaf!n=shachaf@66.17.178.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :Dewi!n=dewi@203-217-37-54.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :atsampson!n=ats@7hw.poik.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757108 0 :Quendus!n=Quendion@145.175.adsl.brightview.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@d11-3.rb.gh.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97.118.121.181 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-21-196.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :Polar!i=polar@arunprasannan.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :RodgerTheGreat!n=Rodger@wads-5-232-63.resnet.mtu.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :Deewiant!n=mniemenm@peridootti.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :mtve!i=mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757109 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1215757156 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=44.932650,+-123.228470&ie=UTF8&ll=44.93315,-123.228471&spn=0.017226,0.025578&t=h&z=15 < 1215757539 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does your mum live there? < 1215757560 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'd have to zoom out to see her < 1215757627 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215758032 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1215758283 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, lament: YOU'VE BEEN RICKREALL'D < 1215758563 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rick is your mum? < 1215758678 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thanks for clearing that up, i didn't actually open that < 1215758747 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i don't get it < 1215758765 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1215758770 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1215759217 0 :vinicius!n=vininim@189.26.195.62.adsl.gvt.net.br JOIN :#esoteric < 1215759951 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215759951 0 :oklofok!i=oko@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215761387 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215761430 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@71.237.179.105 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215763199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1215763200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1215764330 0 :mtve!i=mtve@mtve.vm.jvds.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215766913 0 :sohotidlerchick!n=ohsohot@a88-113-91-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215767071 0 :oklopol!i=oko@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215767101 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215767820 0 :wookie!n=denis@86-43-217-116.b-ras2.bbh.dublin.eircom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215769281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from SSE instruction set: PSADBW Packed Sum of Absolute Differences of Bytes Into a Word < 1215769283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's next? an instruction to take the difference of two numbers and add that to the distance to the sun in millimeters? < 1215769299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RISC is way saner than CSIC < 1215770427 0 :augur!n=augur@pD9E5BDC5.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215772295 0 :atsampson!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1215773576 0 :atsampson!n=ats@7hw.poik.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215774130 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-187-029.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1215774798 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Remote closed the previous member app" < 1215774947 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-31-39.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1215775235 0 :sohotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :hotidlerchick < 1215778117 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1215779892 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215780978 0 :Slereah_!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-16-189.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215781663 0 :Slereah__!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-16-189.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215782054 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215782065 0 :oklopol!i=oko@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215782642 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215782971 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215783500 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215784393 0 :pikhq!n=Pikhq@asst01.asunix.tufts.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1215785274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215785277 0 :oklofok!i=oko@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215785433 0 :augur!n=augur@pD9E5BDC5.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215785566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi everyone < 1215786173 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or noone < 1215786181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity < 1215786193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I could just sit here monologuing until someone tells me to stop spamming < 1215786200 0 :Slereah_!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-27-29.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215786319 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a new idea for a language < 1215786325 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've long liked the spirit behind Java2K < 1215786328 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't like the implementation < 1215786344 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you basically just have to repeat your program lots of times to increase the chance that it works < 1215786354 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and having one command that always works and tells you if another command did seems like cheating < 1215786374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I've been pondering the idea of a Funge-like language where all the instructions have a small chance of being NOPs rather than what they normally do < 1215786382 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1215786392 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that the language may end up deterministically Turing-complete < 1215786394 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure yet < 1215786401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because things like wrapping will still be reliable < 1215786420 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was trying to do cat in my head, although I haven't succeded yet < 1215786430 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :java2k has an instruction like that :o < 1215786442 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: yes, I know, I don't want any instructions like that < 1215786444 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i knew it wasn't as great as it sounded. < 1215786460 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be possible to determine whether instructions were buggy using nothing but buggy instructions < 1215786468 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an example, you can reliably test whether the top of the stack is 0 < 1215786476 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by using an if at right angles to your current program flow < 1215786490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that will go up/down according to if the TOS is 0 < 1215786501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it's buggy, it'll go right instead because that's the way the IP was going beforehan < 1215786505 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/d/ < 1215786509 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed.yep < 1215786575 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can do that reliably given wrapping < 1215786720 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklo :D < 1215786728 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215786795 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION deletes http://esolangs.org/wiki/BrainSub < 1215786810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems it wasn't intended to be an esolang, and the person who wrote the text didn't post it to Esolang originally < 1215786817 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, it was probably a copyvio too < 1215786837 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What exactly *was* it? < 1215786852 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a bit like PEBBLE, I think < 1215786857 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but written entirely in asm < 1215786867 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :intended to be a serious language for teaching purposes, it seems < 1215786869 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the talk page < 1215786873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Talk:BrainSub < 1215786897 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"2- The idea behind BrainSub is to eliminate the "esoteric" label of a Brainfuck derivative." < 1215786920 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, apparently Esolang isn't good enough for the author... < 1215786936 0 :wookie!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1215787083 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone say anything in the last two minutes, apart from me? < 1215787089 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my connection went down for a bit < 1215787209 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1215787218 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any really interesting and different esolangs you know of ais? < 1215787232 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on what you mean by different, here < 1215787234 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :different from what? < 1215787237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :langs in general? < 1215787239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esolangs in general? < 1215787241 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usual paradigms? < 1215787243 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :different as in not your typical esolang < 1215787247 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usual paradigms yes. < 1215787252 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like weird paradigms < 1215787254 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, HQ9+ is pretty strange < 1215787257 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric paradigms < 1215787263 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HS9+ is stupid :P < 1215787269 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1215787277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it makes a good counterexample for lots of stuf < 1215787279 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/f/ < 1215787294 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you've never come across concatenative langs before, look up Underload < 1215787297 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one of mine < 1215787307 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's /almost/ a mainstream paradigm by now, though < 1215787380 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :concatenative languages are ancient < 1215787386 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and mainstream if you're a nasa engineer :p < 1215787390 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1215787391 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or they were < 1215787395 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they use Joy < 1215787398 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasa used to, or still uses, forth < 1215787398 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there another one by now? < 1215787408 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, forth doesn't really count < 1215787421 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofcourse it does < 1215787424 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or so says wiki < 1215787425 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1215787426 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite different from the typical eso concatenative language < 1215787435 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eso concatenatives, feh. :P < 1215787442 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dude < 1215787461 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that brains might work fundamentally like forth, when it comes to concept manipulation < 1215787523 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :postscript is supposedly concatenative < 1215787527 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not convinced that FOrth is concatenative < 1215787548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its if-then structure is wrong, for instance < 1215787575 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :concatenative langs work by manipulating code as data on the stack and then running it < 1215787586 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/stack-based/ langs are common < 1215787596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most of them have more conventional control structures < 1215787619 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get its if-then structure, to be honest < 1215787624 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PostScript looks concatenative to me < 1215787627 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though < 1215787635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is manipulating code on the stack to do conditionals < 1215787636 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder < 1215787658 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we should do an experiment to see if kids of certain kinds of languages learn certain kinds of programming languages easier than others < 1215787670 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. do irish kids learn lisp more easilly than forth? < 1215787694 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do japanese kids learn forth more easily that smalltalk? < 1215787695 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1215787713 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the issue with Forth is that it doesn't have formalised code quotations < 1215787719 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1215787720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't fit my idea of what a concatenative lang is like < 1215787736 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:44… augur: it seems that brains might work fundamentally like forth, when it comes to concept manipulation <<< hmm? < 1215787742 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have concatenative flow structure, even though it has a stack < 1215787756 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just read an article about someone having written some bogus about this < 1215787780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: anyway, other unusual paradigms: have you seen SMATINY? < 1215787784 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: some research has suggested that regardless of the languages people, they mentally represent events with the order Actor-Patient-Action < 1215787793 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, whats smatiny? < 1215787802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/SMATINY < 1215787808 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read an article written by someone who had read that article :P < 1215787817 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one on Language Log? < 1215787825 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have no idea. < 1215787834 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my http://esolangs.org/wiki/BackFlip has the same paradigm, I think, although BackFlip is two-dimensional < 1215787837 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that sounds very counterintuitive < 1215787837 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably was < 1215787843 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you misread the post < 1215787848 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1215787858 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=326 < 1215787866 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was during the night, near morning, and i just quickly browsed through < 1215787871 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hes talking about how it doesnt reveal anything about language structure but rather about cognitive structure < 1215787882 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newspapers are talking about language structure tho < 1215787887 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, indeed. < 1215787891 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas the article is about cognitive structure < 1215787892 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and http://esolangs.org/wiki/Hannah has some similarities, but isn't reversible < 1215787910 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as does http://esolangs.org/wiki/Black for that matter, which I created trying to make BackFlip TC < 1215787920 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well anyway, i doubt that has any truth in it, what the brain sucks most at, is storing info before knowing how it's going to be used < 1215787941 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actor patient action does exactly that, makes you remember two objects, and then gives the relation < 1215787954 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm no psychologist ofc, just counterintuitive imo. < 1215788021 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ill take a look < 1215788050 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesnt seem counter intuitive to me actually < 1215788066 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, think about it, youve got a big semantic jumble of things < 1215788079 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, pick any one or two and relate them somehow < 1215788085 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then relate that < 1215788087 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1215788106 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once youve gotten the two things, you just look up the relation < 1215788126 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho it might be the case that there is nothing to look it up in, that these ARE the fundamental structures the brain manipulates < 1215788178 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps, perhaps. i don't really believe there are any "fundamental structures" like that < 1215788203 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there seem to be tho, if this study is correct. < 1215788228 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting stuff, if it is < 1215788316 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so those languages are silly. :P < 1215788362 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly languages, so sad :( < 1215788379 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1215788449 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :black is "symmetric"? what does that mean? < 1215788479 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :symmetric pieces of code are equal? < 1215788485 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reversible? < 1215788502 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: err what languages are silly? :D < 1215788519 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones ais linked me to < 1215788553 0 :Slereah__!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-27-29.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215788577 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both seem nice < 1215788609 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know me, im not hugely a fan of unusable languages ;) < 1215788612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hi < 1215788618 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnMaster < 1215788620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, any questions related to ffungi? < 1215788626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1215788633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I haven't yet updated C-INTERCAL for your changes < 1215788690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, as for the warnings? :) < 1215788707 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they're functions which aren't static because they're linked against code the compiler doesn't know about < 1215788718 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the warnings are mostly legit, just gcc fails to appreciate exactly what is going on < 1215788726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well then shouldn't they be in the header of the file? < 1215788741 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they'd be visible externally, but I can put them there if you think it's cleaner < 1215788746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1215788755 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems wrong to me to put prototypes that are only used by one file in a header < 1215788760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, one file visible to the compilation < 1215788762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so < 1215788772 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I could put the prototypes in the .c file? < 1215788777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could < 1215788781 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would shut up the warnings, I think < 1215788802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you put extern in the file that use those functions? < 1215788810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1215788816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the C file? < 1215788828 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't a corresponding header for technical reasons which would take a while to explain < 1215788843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one issue is that such stuff can get out of sync and cause bugs that are hard to track down < 1215788859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :happened in crossfire for example (I found it using gcc's -combine) < 1215788882 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, I know, but it would be utterly impractical to try to create a header file that prototyped for both the cfunge end and the C-INTERCAL end < 1215788899 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1215788906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess so < 1215788948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, be sure to put in a comment or something to say "if you change these also change..." < 1215788958 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a good idea < 1215788968 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if anyone would dare change them anyway < 1215789241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1215789273 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how many people in the world do you think are likely to mess around with the internals of fffungi? < 1215789280 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even attempt to do so? < 1215789288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not me at least < 1215789291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet only you < 1215789299 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's what I thought too < 1215789300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even you could forget, say after a few years < 1215789328 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: changing the proto of a function that apparently isn't used at all should be a red flag for any programmer < 1215789403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if it gets used in the future from inside the same file? < 1215789426 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an interesting concept < 1215789442 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe a comment would be worthwhile < 1215789449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as there's a struct that has to be the same too < 1215789455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1215789467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the struct, what is the name of it? < 1215789515 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ick_ipposdeltatype < 1215789562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :struct ick_ipposdeltatype < 1215789562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ < 1215789562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : long long ix, iy, dx, dy; < 1215789562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :}; < 1215789563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm < 1215789571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why long long? < 1215789574 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ya guys < 1215789606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, those are funge coordinates then FUNGEVECTORTYPE would be the type to use < 1215789606 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215789695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: to ensure that it's long enough to fit IPs and deltas even if I switch to 64-bit Funge some day < 1215789695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because it doesn't matter if it's too long < 1215789695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215789711 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215789715 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1215789738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been pondering a 128-bit funge, but it wouldn't be portable < 1215789757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc extensions < 1215789874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__int128_t or something like that iirc < 1215789901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if they do have a 128-bit type, then int128_t would be a perfectly portable name for it < 1215789916 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but presumably they wanted intmax_t to be 64 bit for some reason... < 1215789998 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it would be insanely slow on 32-bit platforms < 1215790030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, most platforms should have the instruction set to generalise their arithmetic to any number of bits < 1215790041 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would only take 4 times as long on 32-bit, if I remember correctly < 1215790056 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for things like multiplication where you wouldn't have hardware acceleration < 1215790071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is used to having to do arithmetic by hand when programming in INTERCAL, anyway < 1215790078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1215790107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well due to cache size 32-bit funge is quite a lot faster than 64-bit funge on my 64-bit sempron < 1215790117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpu[1 x AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3300+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 1.80GHz w/ 128 KB L2 Cache] < 1215790124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(max speed 2 GHz) < 1215790145 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: are you planning to enter the ICFP, by the way? < 1215790151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICFP? < 1215790152 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/,/ contest,/ < 1215790157 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://icfpcontest.org < 1215790160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it starts this evening < 1215790163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a programming competition < 1215790178 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what language? < 1215790181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what type of tasks < 1215790183 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any lang of your choice < 1215790189 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as for what type of tasks, they've varied a lot < 1215790202 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a lot of informal rivalry as to which programming language is the best, you see < 1215790210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ICFP seems designed as an attempt to settle it < 1215790222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, no I don't plan to enter it < 1215790239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity really, I don't have anyone to team up with so I'll have to try it by myself < 1215790245 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not any lang this year < 1215790265 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yes, you can submit an executable < 1215790274 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can bundle an interp with a program < 1215790275 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, okay < 1215790277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they intend it to be any lang < 1215790283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just they couldn't fit them all on the CD < 1215790289 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, right < 1215790291 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: are you entering < 1215790292 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what that was about then < 1215790297 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1215790305 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll take a look at the problems < 1215790320 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt I'll bother to solve it but who knows :-) < 1215790347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : there's a lot of informal rivalry as to which programming language is the best, you see < 1215790347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : and the ICFP seems designed as an attempt to settle it < 1215790351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is silly < 1215790363 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes < 1215790368 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's an interesting task anyway < 1215790370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some languages are good at some tasks but not at other ones < 1215790371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1215790375 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :again, yes < 1215790380 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally it's biased in favour of functional langs < 1215790384 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what the F stands for < 1215790409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, if I ever needed to program a telephony switch I would probably use erlang < 1215790415 0 :vinicius!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, C++ won a couple. < 1215790425 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vinicius: I didn't say their attempt to bias worked < 1215790426 0 :vinicius!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that reality is biased in favour of functional langs. ;) < 1215790458 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.77.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215790481 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1215790485 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tusho < 1215790489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho won < 1215790493 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i win < 1215790499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 4 seconds < 1215791389 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1215791399 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-050-016.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1215791958 0 :Slereah_!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-27-29.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215792971 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: AnMaster: anyway, what do you think of my Funge/Java2K crossover idea? < 1215792984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty pointless < 1215793001 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's meant as a challenge to code in < 1215793010 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly it's less usable than ordinary Funge < 1215793073 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we already have malbolge for that :-P < 1215793103 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: well, yes, but having multiple interesting coding challenges is one of the things that draws me to esolangs < 1215793114 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone but me's ever used INTERCAL due to its expressiveness, for instance < 1215793123 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1215793173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm? < 1215793193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: basically a Funge version where commands have a small chance of being NOPs rather than doing what they're meant to do < 1215793208 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so combining Java2Ks randomness with Funge to make a lang which is similar to Java2K but more interesting < 1215793265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, is there ever any way to code something that works every time using that? < 1215793270 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1215793274 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not sure < 1215793278 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why I find it interesting < 1215793429 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215793500 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215795198 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215795213 0 :hotidlerchick!n=ohsohot@a88-113-91-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215795387 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242397814.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1215796079 0 :ijxo!i=c950d178@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4af87c65b2322353 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215796726 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-31-39.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1215798573 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215798591 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No all. < 1215798596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1215798611 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no=hi in Sine < 1215799193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nu... < 1215799199 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey all < 1215799199 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215799533 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z < 1215799612 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"brb" < 1215800408 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215800590 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215800594 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1215800597 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA < 1215800616 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was quick < 1215800632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you managed to say that before my GUI had got into a sufficient state to view what you said < 1215800638 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1215800775 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION loads up the ICFP LiveCD < 1215800785 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ready for the start in an hour and a half or so < 1215800797 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ICFP? < 1215800810 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ICFP contest = a programming competition < 1215800814 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm looking for teammates < 1215800834 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1215800844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :held over the internet, there are generally two contests with identical tasks, one lasting 24 hours, one lasting 72 hours, starting simultaneously < 1215800875 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks the IRTC results in prettier stuff < 1215800884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRTC? < 1215800897 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Internet Ray Tracing Competition apparently < 1215800901 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Sgeo doesn't get what the icfp is about at al < 1215800901 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1215800905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1215800906 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Ray-Tracing Competition < 1215800914 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :different nature of tasks, though < 1215800917 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1215800919 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming vs. computer graphics < 1215800919 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still totally different, Sgeo < 1215800947 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so I take it you won't be doing much else while it's on < 1215800958 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. I'm not allowed to mention a different unrelated competition>? < 1215800963 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than constantly asking #esoteric for programming help? < 1215800967 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: syes < 1215800968 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yes < 1215800973 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not < 1215800982 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shame < 1215801126 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why the code has to run on their servers this year < 1215801139 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they're having another AI-for-a-simple-game competition < 1215801142 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they like doing those < 1215801173 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd probably like doing those too < 1215801190 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: maybe you could help? < 1215801226 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'LL HELP < 1215801245 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: actually, you may be able to, depending on the task < 1215801253 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think you should do X. < 1215801256 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And not Y. < 1215801257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y is wrong. < 1215801257 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's something where we can just code independently without treading on each other's toes < 1215801266 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Your system is wrong. Rewrite it. Now. < 1215801268 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i could help, most likely, if i had slept last night. < 1215801272 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2 hours later) Oh look, the deadline just passed. < 1215801293 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well, if you say such things after the first few minutes, I'll ignore them < 1215801296 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also trying to get ten thousand polygon zombies to run on pygame is not as easy as you might think. < 1215801311 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but feel free to read the problem and submit suggestions as to how I should tackle it < 1215801313 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i say ten thousand? actually going for a hundred thousand < 1215801318 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll probably ignore those too, but it will make me feel better < 1215801364 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is i'm too stubborn to make any real optimizations until i know i don't have any stupid bottlenecks as it it. < 1215801366 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is < 1215801372 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't really have any debugging tools < 1215801374 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except print < 1215801391 0 :ais523_!i=93bcfe7b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bfb2efb1901d3f87 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215801419 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tusho < 1215801431 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1215801434 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1215801441 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is on mibbit on Iceweasel on Knoppix on qemu on Ubuntu < 1215801447 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to see how slow I can get this to go < 1215801452 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's reasonable, actually < 1215801456 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: talk about "colossus on clay feet" < 1215801462 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering that I'm using qemu not kqemu at the moment < 1215801473 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so this is on an entirely software-virtualised system < 1215801500 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: run safari in pearpc in jsmips < 1215801505 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then load mibbit < 1215801510 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on top of all that other stuff < 1215801523 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the window's tiny, though, I think it's emulating 640 by 480 res, and Mibbit has a lot of stuff around the IRC window itself < 1215801551 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why they have Iceweasel on here when they were so short of space < 1215801586 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, you have to make a digital rube goldberg machine < 1215801589 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that runs 'hello world' < 1215801610 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know of a hello-world in RUBE? < 1215801618 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably someone's done one already < 1215801621 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1215801652 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://catseye.tc/projects/rube/eg/hello.rub < 1215801737 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1215801747 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215801778 0 :ais523__!i=93bcfe7b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-baaed951a8c963c7 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215801821 0 :ais523__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523_: there? < 1215801826 0 :ais523__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1215801835 0 :ais523__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is from Mibbit under Konqueror < 1215801849 0 :ais523__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why they included two web browsers when they needed space for programming language interps I don't know < 1215801855 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523__: hi < 1215801864 0 :ais523__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the interps are more important than the compilers because you can submit an executable) < 1215801867 0 :ais523__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hi tusho < 1215801889 0 :ais523__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, that's enough silly virtualisation for now, I think < 1215801896 0 :ais523__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1215802563 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here know how to artifically limit the number of lines of the screen a Linux terminal uses? < 1215802853 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1215802866 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind, I think I found a different way to work around the problem < 1215803240 0 :vinicius!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1215804420 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215804422 0 :oklopol!i=oko@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215804556 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokoko < 1215804653 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: ha < 1215804655 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're obviously oklopol < 1215804657 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just proved it < 1215804733 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1215804773 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only oklopol can say okokoko? < 1215804851 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides < 1215804857 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he'd go more like < 1215804858 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1215804859 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1215804862 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okoko < 1215804866 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokoko < 1215804869 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokoko < 1215804893 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1215804994 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enthusiastically < 1215804996 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: you are oklopol :p < 1215805014 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1215805049 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you say < 1215805071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION definitely remembers whoising hotidlerchick and geting the same hostname as someone in this channel before < 1215805079 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember who, though < 1215805091 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopolor < 1215805098 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a88-113-91-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi < 1215805113 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs < 1215805113 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi < 1215805120 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: there isn't a hostname clash right now, hotidlerchick's getting better at sockpuppeting < 1215805129 0 :oklopolor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1215805129 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1215805318 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in theory, though, I still have the results of that old /whois in my logs < 1215805324 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try grepping them, if they haven't rotated yet < 1215805471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ < 1215805474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Tue Jun 3 2008] [21:43:28] Join oklopol has joined this channel (n=nnscript@spark.turku.fi). < 1215805474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Tue Jun 3 2008] [21:44:22] Quit hotidlerchick has left this server (Remote closed the connection). < 1215805474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Tue Jun 3 2008] [21:45:20] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163168 < 1215805474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Tue Jun 3 2008] [21:45:30] 314 hotidlerchick n=idler spark.turku.fi * Idler < 1215805474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1215805481 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew I had the near-proof somewhere! < 1215805494 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that 314 is a /whowas result, BTW < 1215805495 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guessed < 1215805529 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rw-r--r-- 1 ais523 ais523 5300086 2008-07-11 19:44 irc.freenode.net_#esoteric.log < 1215805533 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for reference < 1215805535 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pretty big log < 1215805541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5MB of text is a lot of text < 1215805819 0 :oklofok!i=oko@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215805901 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215806029 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1215806102 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i rotate my logs daily < 1215806104 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1215806108 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :colloquy rotates my logs daily < 1215806123 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I intend to never rotate, it's not like they're likely to run me out of disk space < 1215806186 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a smart way of rotating irssi logs < 1215806194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: logrotate? < 1215806221 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's more that it's quicker to view them < 1215806222 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that work while it's running < 1215806224 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and grep only what I need < 1215806231 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I think so < 1215806242 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I like to be able to grep everything < 1215806249 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grep foo * < 1215806251 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada < 1215806253 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to be able to grep things more than a day old every now and then < 1215806269 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also Konversation only shows the tail of the logs < 1215806273 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's just as easy to read < 1215806277 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can change the tail amount < 1215806315 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders. if you accidentally delete the whole log directory, will it then be rotating in its grave? < 1215806422 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- now close to 100% puns, on this channel < 1215806443 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah (/me quickly improves the ratio slightly...) < 1215806483 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can anyone else load http://icfpcontest.org ? < 1215806519 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently not < 1215806526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their server's gone down under the traffic of the contest starting... < 1215806550 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :icfp.eso-std.org! < 1215806560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no good until I actually find the task description < 1215806567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is hosted on a mirror as it is, apparently < 1215806572 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone has it i'll mirror it < 1215806583 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sargun: MIRROR: http://xbmodder.us/task.pdf < 1215806594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://smlnj.org/icfp08-contest/task.html is the original site < 1215806598 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1215806600 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for NASA < 1215806601 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1215806603 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, got it < 1215806605 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: probably not < 1215806609 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1215806610 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but heh < 1215806611 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Recent breakthroughs in higher-order, statically-typed, metaspatial communication will enable data < 1215806611 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be transferred between Mars and Earth almost instantaneously. As such, NASA is seeking exam- < 1215806611 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ples of real-time control software to operate its latest model Martian rovers from control centers on < 1215806611 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Earth. Since it is well known that the ICFP contest attracts the cr `eme de la cr `eme of programmers < 1215806612 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from around the world, NASA has decided to use the current contest as a means of gathering soft- < 1215806614 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ware prototypes for their new control system. We are pleased to announce that this year’s winning < 1215806616 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :entry will in fact be used to control the rover on NASA’s very next mission to Mars!1 < 1215806680 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : why would it be a joke? < 1215806682 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UH I DUNNO LOL < 1215806714 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is boegel? < 1215806768 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1215806772 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone in #icfp-contest < 1215806798 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh it's about NASA again. i hate NASA < 1215806799 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1215806910 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : has anyone a real good visual basic manual? < 1215806964 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this also on #icfp-contest? :D < 1215806972 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1215807257 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: y u leaf < 1215807267 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : heh. intercal. < 1215807269 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*g* < 1215807271 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it was spamming me with notifications < 1215807292 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://smlnj.org/icfp08-contest/simulator.html < 1215807295 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :icfp simulator < 1215807306 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, I told a1k0n that you maintained c-intercal < 1215807307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : tusho: that's terrible. my condolances. < 1215807597 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: saml is either an idiot or a troll < 1215807604 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want the money! I hate NASA! < 1215808198 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's a bit silly to require the program to open a tcp socket. Just as well it could have communicated via stdio. < 1215808199 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :truth < 1215808327 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: aha < 1215808329 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is realtime apparently < 1215808332 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek. < 1215808333 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215808782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1215808785 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1215809192 0 :ijxo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1215809540 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : THe real task is efficent routing and data gathering. WHich seems pretty functional to me. < 1215809542 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1215809542 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1215809831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ I'd like the opposite, actually. The power of Ruby without the strange BS of Rails. } < 1215809836 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've no idea how you could get that mate. < 1215809837 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry! < 1215810107 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-050-016.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1215810188 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1215810449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1215810503 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-050-016.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1215811026 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-31-39.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1215811279 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1215813002 0 :Slereah_!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-27-29.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215813013 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello dudes. < 1215813037 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That computer must hold on for two weeks. < 1215813046 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And boy it ain't gonna be easy. < 1215813048 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: which computer? the one you're on? < 1215813111 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1215813124 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fan broke down today. < 1215813140 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of back on again, now that most of the hair inside are out < 1215813152 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: and why only two weeks? < 1215813160 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he is getting a new one < 1215813183 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember, kids, never let your cat play inside the computer. < 1215813195 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're mine < 1215813233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember, kids, never play inside the computer. < 1215813253 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye all < 1215813284 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1215813295 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The case is open. < 1215813311 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So hair get in the fan sometimes. < 1215813324 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And after a few years, it had a luxurious mane. < 1215814150 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALP MY MIDDLE MOUSE BUTTEN DON'T BE DOIN' NOTHIN' < 1215814274 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215814361 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215814370 0 :oklopol!i=oko@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215814408 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1215814419 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Middle button? < 1215814425 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: does it scroll up and down? < 1215814432 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My CPU almost melted, so I cannot feel sympathy for your button. < 1215814445 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but it does not open links in new tabs or show a scrollwheel if I click anywhere else! < 1215814506 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: control-leftclick? < 1215814515 0 :oklopolor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokoko < 1215814515 0 :oklopolor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1215814515 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's open in new tab in Firefox, at least < 1215814537 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for people with broken middle buttons < 1215814538 0 :oklopolor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'" < 1215814540 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No, that's "right click", from before we invented TWO-BUTTON MICE. < 1215814546 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want my middle button to work. < 1215814549 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably a software problem < 1215814607 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less likely, it could be a physical constant of nature shifting slightly. < 1215814678 0 :fxkr!n=fxkr@p54B9EDE2.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215814684 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215814713 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215814730 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1215814732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHhAHAHAHAHAHHAHA < 1215814747 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well, I said hi to #ESO < 1215814749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder who won? < 1215814754 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1215814754 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by far < 1215814796 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, you both just lost the game. < 1215814808 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: aaaaaaaaaaaaar < 1215814810 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gh < 1215814813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dfgdfsdfdfsgtju < 1215814814 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rw < 1215814831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's mean, you're making tusho spam Agora again < 1215814844 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did that last time? < 1215814852 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he does that every time he loses the game < 1215814858 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1215814858 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he made the game into an Agoran contract < 1215814858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm in a contractial version of The Game < 1215814869 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1215814869 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, i'm ignoring it right now, because it's broken < 1215814874 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says 'when a gamer thinks' < 1215814877 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 'when a winning gamer thinks' < 1215814879 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: hah, evidence! < 1215814885 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so after you lose < 1215814888 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to spam the lists < 1215814890 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forever < 1215814897 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you'll have to think about it to send the message < 1215814983 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasty < 1215815084 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so yeah < 1215815085 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that needs fixing < 1215815094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: but you can't fix it < 1215815097 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's a pledge < 1215815100 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need without-objection < 1215815104 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which takes 4 days... < 1215815107 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly. < 1215815121 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I act on behalf of tusho to think about The Game. < 1215815127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1215815769 0 :Slereah2!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-27-29.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215815776 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's going to be two long weeks :( < 1215815818 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1215815935 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215816036 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215816904 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215816964 0 :Slereah2!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-27-29.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215816977 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My god, this is ridiculous < 1215816984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doo doo < 1215816989 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually have to spin the fan manually before booting the computer < 1215817005 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahhahahhahah < 1215817008 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flinstones pc < 1215817058 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"(1) DO COME FROM ".2~.2"~#1 WHILE :1 <- "'?.1$.2'~'"':1/.1$.2'~#0"$#65535'"$"'"'&.1$.2'~'#0$#65535'"$#0'~#32767$#1"" < 1215817066 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope it won't stop < 1215817075 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, don't lose any fingers < 1215817085 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't stand the cries of an overheating CPU. < 1215817099 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("Beep beep beep beep beep") < 1215817171 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah2: Open some windows. < 1215817291 0 :Slereah__!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-27-29.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215817293 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho : I don't think opening a window will help much if the fan stops. < 1215817307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1215817309 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't live in Antarctica. < 1215817320 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1215817321 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1215817352 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What could help is an actual fan to put above, but I don't have any. < 1215817703 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lick it < 1215817721 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-66-31-43-229.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215818388 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: Om nom nom nom nom. < 1215818389 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215818809 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215818977 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1215819936 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X < 1215819937 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Discuss < 1215820067 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1215820076 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a cross way of putting it < 1215820318 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how punny < 1215820367 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : <- now close to 100% puns, on this channel < 1215820510 0 :Slereah2!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-25-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215820517 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what pun < 1215820593 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc1-rdng15-0-0-cust168.winn.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric