< 1215823055 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1215823437 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215823459 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1215823962 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"kthxbai" < 1215826958 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey ais < 1215826974 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind, hes not here < 1215826975 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::_< < 1215826976 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1215826990 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol! :o < 1215827725 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1215830861 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1215831453 0 :fxkr_!n=fxkr@p54B9CF60.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215832158 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm|--0@219.89.42.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215832253 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night oklolove < 1215832256 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :::bite:: < 1215832293 0 :fxkr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1215832314 0 :fxkr_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1215832698 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215832700 0 :oklofok!i=oko@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe6cdf00-4.dhcp.inet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215834093 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215835437 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215836766 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215842553 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1215849599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1215849600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1215849669 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 and tusho: if you are reading logs I won't be reachable today, I'm leaving for an airshow < 1215851206 0 :hotidlerchick!n=ohsohot@a88-113-91-209.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1215854070 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1215854675 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215855159 0 :augur!n=augur@pD9E5D8D4.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215856565 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215856929 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215857036 0 :augur!n=augur@pD9E5D8D4.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215858039 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"(1) DO COME FROM ".2~.2"~#1 WHILE :1 <- "'?.1$.2'~'"':1/.1$.2'~#0"$#65535'"$"'"'&.1$.2'~'#0$#65535'"$#0'~#32767$#1"" < 1215859321 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Remote closed the previous member app" < 1215860099 0 :Slereah2!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-25-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215861998 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-31-39.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1215862198 0 :Slereah__!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-25-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215862443 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1215863207 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215863775 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215866606 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215866621 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215866806 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215873701 0 :Slereah2!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-25-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215874037 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1215874045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what? < 1215874047 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: you were in my dream < 1215874053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a-fucking-gain < 1215874059 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this time it wasn't irc. < 1215874113 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me start from the beginning, unless someone has something interesting to talk about < 1215874130 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1215874144 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was on some page, where you kinda bidded about something < 1215874173 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :highest bid won, don't remember what i was bidding about, but i won some guy who was apparently like the god of that page, won every bid < 1215874180 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he got mad < 1215874192 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we met at a mall < 1215874207 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and turned out i had also kissed his girlfriend < 1215874217 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for some reason this made me take out my gun < 1215874222 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and point it at him < 1215874234 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he started yelling "shoot me you fucking pussy" < 1215874245 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was like "give me a reason and i totally will" < 1215874280 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he pressed the trigger himself, then, probably realizing i was a pussy < 1215874297 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fell down on the floor, no one in the mall noticed < 1215874314 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i figured they might at some point, so i kinda paniced < 1215874323 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then came the lament part < 1215874341 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament was on the cover of an energy drink can < 1215874345 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but kinda alive. < 1215874373 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my first thought was looking at his face would instantly tell me what to do :D < 1215874382 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda warm feeling < 1215874389 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not kinda disturbing. < 1215874397 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, all the cans had turned away < 1215874404 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i was devastated < 1215875304 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not all that weird in writing, but somehow lament was my mentor or something, it was important to see his face after the incident. < 1215875330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no anal sex yet, but it's quite clear the obsession is starting < 1215875350 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how's coding going? < 1215875356 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I think < 1215875369 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my program still steers the rover into craters too much < 1215875423 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you link the rules? < 1215875518 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1215876009 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds quite fun < 1215876009 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.77.118 JOIN :#esoteric < 1215876026 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should've done it too < 1215876034 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1215876047 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i totally wont hat one < 1215876052 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*won that < 1215876058 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Communication between the server and controller will be over a TCP/IP socket using plain-text messages encoded in ASCII. <<< because martians don't understand english? :P < 1215876874 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird they don't give out the details of the rotation / acceleration, as they're easy to calculate from the state info they give < 1215876933 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually they give quite a lot of details :P < 1215876979 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just have to calc acceleration < 1215876981 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well, my program calculates the rotation rules atm < 1215876987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the telemetry < 1215876992 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that still doesn't stop it crashing into things, though < 1215877143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does the server thing work, you use a public server for testing or smth? < 1215877161 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no, they supplied binaries for it < 1215877166 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay. < 1215877166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you run it on your own system < 1215877178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no source, though, thus causing lots of people to fail to get it working < 1215877178 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you write a visualization so you can see it run? < 1215877185 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it has its own visualization < 1215877188 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1215877210 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, i would have loved this < 1215877224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's not too late to enter < 1215877229 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't run on Windows, though < 1215877237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only on Linux and Mac OS X, and not easily in either case < 1215877288 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in that case i can't enter, i don't have a linux computer here. < 1215877315 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps next year < 1215877327 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: use qemu < 1215877329 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they provide a livecd < 1215877418 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess i could. < 1215877438 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any restrictions on the language? < 1215877467 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes < 1215877470 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever's on the licd < 1215877472 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*livecd < 1215877480 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.icfpcontest.org/live-cd.html < 1215877486 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you <3 me, use the eso-std.org mirror that's linkd < 1215877494 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you want to use scheme or something, 'cause the mzscheme is broken on 1.5 < 1215877831 0 :timotiis!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215878198 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd prolly take me till midnight to get that working, don't really feel like it, since the competition has already been on for about 20 hours. < 1215878326 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be so cool doing this in Ob < 1215878346 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the declarative bot ai language) < 1215878364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: there's a 72-hour competition as well as the lightning round... < 1215878419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1215878427 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i could go for it... < 1215878464 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just getting the live-cd to work sounds like something i will fail at. < 1215878475 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to that, the actual programming task seems trivial :P < 1215878489 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone else here making an entry? < 1215878893 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242397814.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1215878987 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to, but I spent most of today failing at getting the server working < 1215878998 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I figured "screw it". < 1215879011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: maybe you can help me instead < 1215879105 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TBH I just wanted to see how hard it actually was, I didn't really do anything, and now I'm not in the mood any more :-/ < 1215879119 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to ask me about something feel free, of course :-P < 1215879207 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: tusho was inaccurate BTW, you can submit a binary in any language < 1215879226 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes < 1215879229 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather, a binary compiled from any language < 1215879230 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but oklopol uses interppy languages < 1215879248 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: tusho was inaccurate BTw, i use *python* < 1215879250 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*BTW < 1215879254 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1215879266 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not Ob? < 1215879270 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a lot of languages well enough to do something like this < 1215879280 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ob is one of my own langs, haven't implemented yet. < 1215879301 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an event-based declarative language for making bot ai's for a game of mine < 1215879966 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone know how bad an idea it is to mount the same drive in two OSs simultaneously? < 1215879978 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone here, that is < 1215879978 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably bad < 1215879982 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to try < 1215879985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not with my hard drive though < 1215879987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a disk image < 1215879988 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: give it a go < 1215880214 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@c-66-31-43-229.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215881042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it worked < 1215881049 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1215881050 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that's the first time I've ever reformatted a hard drive < 1215881052 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TuppersSelf-ReferentialFormula.html < 1215881059 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it was a virtual one on my filesystem < 1215881238 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RodgerTheGreat: always liked that, wonder if you could make a program that creates equations like that < 1215881243 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, obviously it's possible < 1215881248 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if it'd be trivial or not < 1215881249 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems pretty likely < 1215881260 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing about that formula i don't like < 1215881262 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the big 'n' < 1215881265 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is outside the formula < 1215881271 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like a bit of a cheat. < 1215881274 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it certainly looks like the N is large enough to contain the bitmap the function "generates" < 1215881282 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like writing a drawing program < 1215881287 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then feeding it itself as an image < 1215881300 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's a function that unpacks a base-10 number into a bitmap, somehow < 1215881301 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no actual self-reference, it's indirect < 1215881322 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still impressive, of course < 1215881323 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still quite intriguing < 1215881328 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not what I hoped when I first saw it < 1215881333 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1215881359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an _actual_ self-plotting formula would probably be very long, kind of like those huge quines < 1215881362 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very pretty < 1215881377 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes you wonder if a "plot quine" would be possible, though. It would undoubtedly be really nasty and complicated. < 1215881393 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: mounting the same file on two OSs at once doesn't work, because neither understands when it's changed < 1215881393 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION toys with writing a program to write it < 1215881401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they end up with different internal versions of it < 1215881403 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I imagined that would happen, yeah. < 1215881412 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if I don't mount both at the same time... < 1215883431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TuppersSelf-ReferentialFormula.html is a cheat < 1215883449 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's trivial to do, except perhaps not one that short. < 1215883507 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as i now see you discussed already. < 1215883583 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1215883705 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION submits an initial solution < 1215883710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there's something there if I run out of time < 1215883767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215883885 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you run out of connection. < 1215883890 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*zing* < 1215883974 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i'm going to code A in language B now, anyone feel like supplying A and B? < 1215884091 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Malbolge in Malbolge. < 1215884126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pass < 1215884147 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: python in python < 1215884151 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brainfucks in recursive functions. < 1215884158 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :passpass < 1215884170 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: c in python < 1215884178 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps i could just make befunge in c. < 1215884178 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Motherfucking snakes in a motherfucking plane. < 1215884183 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1215884185 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c in python. < 1215884188 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215884203 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c in python doesn't sound too hard < 1215884210 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the basics, anyway < 1215884212 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll have to simulate memory < 1215884215 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for pointers and shizz < 1215884218 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apart from that... < 1215884224 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i know that < 1215884224 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lexing + parsing's a bit hard, some ambiguities < 1215884226 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the actual language < 1215884227 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty simple < 1215884230 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1215884232 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be a fun project < 1215884250 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely, but B can't be python < 1215884250 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cause, you know, C "feels" substantial < 1215884260 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not < 1215884265 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C interp in Python sounds fun < 1215884295 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure does, but i want a different language. < 1215884330 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i haven't used C in ages, should see if i get anything to work aymore < 1215884331 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anymoer < 1215884333 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anymore < 1215884365 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c in c would be pretty hard < 1215884415 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215884442 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, my empty program worked! < 1215884446 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now befunge < 1215884594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tusho < 1215884598 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were slow there... < 1215884606 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1215884607 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't paying attention < 1215884608 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what lang? < 1215884612 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: neither was I < 1215884698 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: C < 1215885103 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: z < 1215885116 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi tusho < 1215885118 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :again < 1215885120 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: o < 1215885122 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1215885126 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1215885128 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shall we play a game < 1215885128 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z < 1215885143 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not right now, only 2 hours to the lighning deadline, at least not with me < 1215885143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1215885146 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1215885190 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokoko < 1215885226 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooookokokoko. < 1215885227 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: hi oklopol < 1215885249 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: hi elliott < 1215885261 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: hi oklopol < 1215885326 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool stuff < 1215885329 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wanna swap identities? < 1215885334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:54] If the martians run into each other, do they turn into cheese? < 1215885334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[17:55] aSmig: the cheese may be Brie or provolone; which one it is is deliberately unspecified ;-) < 1215885337 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from #icfp-contest < 1215885345 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1215885346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's so much deliberately unspecified there... < 1215885348 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: lol sure :) < 1215885397 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklo < 1215885404 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :hotidlerchick < 1215885412 0 :oklo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1215885421 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: can i still continue coding? < 1215885431 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION so wants an IRC client command to do that automatically, without the other person knowing < 1215885432 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is fucking disturbing < 1215885437 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and automatically rewriting all the messages < 1215885449 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: oooh, that would be so hot < 1215885458 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1215885580 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh. i'm not entirely sure how to be you < 1215885596 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-. < 1215885611 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1215885660 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask tusho, I'm sure he knows < 1215885699 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just be yourself"? :P < 1215885740 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i think i'll just implement 93... possibly because i've lost most of my awesome man brain? < 1215885761 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1215885766 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215885766 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: it shouldn't be too hard to implement 93 in such a way you can later generalise it to 98 < 1215885774 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: true < 1215885789 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for the extending the program space part < 1215885805 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that should be easy too, some kinda wrapper that autoextends where necessary < 1215886308 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oklofok: it shouldn't be too hard to implement 93 in such a way you can later generalise it to 98 < 1215886308 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: ais523: true < 1215886311 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE < 1215886320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: they swapped nicks < 1215886322 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look up a bit < 1215886323 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1215886324 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1215886342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I was nickpinging oklofok, who isn't even in the channel, to avoid getting confused about the nicks < 1215886427 0 :Slereah__!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-25-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215886563 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone who wants to help (tusho? Deewiant?): I've been programming for several hours now and am having problems sorting out my thinking: what's the formula to calculate a turning circle from a turn speed in degrees per second and a forward speed in meters per second? < 1215886585 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :74*buttcake < 1215886590 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, don't know < 1215886611 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it shouldn't be that hard to work out... < 1215886622 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see... after turning 360 degrees you've done one complete turning circle < 1215886628 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably work out how far you go in that time < 1215886637 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the circumference of the circle < 1215886641 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then divide by 2pi < 1215886648 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r = v^2 / a where v is velocity forward, a is acceleration towards centre of circle < 1215886654 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1215886665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: wrong formula, but quite possibly < 1215886673 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the turn rate, not the acceleration < 1215886688 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you can find the acceleration < 1215886702 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but there has to be an easier way, surely... < 1215886736 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215886738 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1215887330 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1215887376 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215887402 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you can solve it from that formula < 1215887460 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to figure it and got v * 360 / (dtheta/dt) < 1215887462 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's wrong < 1215887471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 360 because it's in degrees < 1215887519 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1215887522 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have an idea < 1215887537 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the object is always moving towards the tangent < 1215887556 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, wait... i'm a bit slow atm < 1215887566 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have to think a bit < 1215887588 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that's my problem, being a bit slow thinking mathematically due to being in super-coding mode < 1215887678 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i have it < 1215887707 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me know what it is? < 1215887714 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :circumference = motion_length_per_sec * (angs_per_sec / 360) < 1215887721 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1215887730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the same formula I came up with < 1215887733 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarr < 1215887743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe there was a units problem in my implementation... < 1215887773 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have angular speed in .1s of degrees per second, and speed in mm per second < 1215887773 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely, i'm quite sure it's like that, although my derivation wasn't mathematical < 1215887780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I made the constant 3600 < 1215887798 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, your formula's different from mine < 1215887805 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the * and / the wrong way round < 1215887812 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, right < 1215887821 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...except wouldn't turning faster give a smaller turning circle? < 1215887826 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1215887831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your formula's clearly wrong with angs_per_sec = 0 < 1215887833 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1215887835 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the circle's infinite then < 1215887898 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: maybe you should code another part < 1215887900 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time is ticking < 1215887919 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: this is the most important part currently left < 1215887927 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm coding a different bit of that part right now < 1215887927 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1215887936 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242397995.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1215887963 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i actually just swapped them accidentally < 1215887972 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1215887976 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you move at speed v < 1215887977 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1215888021 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you also move @ (circumference * (degrees / 360)) / sec for rotation speed degrees/sec < 1215888046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turningcircle = maxspeed*3600/maxhardturn; < 1215888057 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maxhardturn is in .1s of degrees per second < 1215888062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maxspeed's in mm per second < 1215888076 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that should be right < 1215888083 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me recompile and rerun < 1215888085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see what happens < 1215888094 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just the circumference ofc < 1215888109 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: not radius? < 1215888113 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1215888136 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it be radius? < 1215888151 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when moving 5 degrees per second < 1215888152 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: ah, good point < 1215888161 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're moving at circumference * 5/360 < 1215888168 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :radius has nothing to do with anything < 1215888174 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, 120m is far too large for the turning circle because I've seen it turn faster than that < 1215888182 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the classical problem of doing math and programming simultaneously < 1215888201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, this is why I could do with someone else to do the math for me... < 1215888203 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ math, you don't think, when getting the result, you often don't have a clear idea what it is, and assume it's what you wanted < 1215888229 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you prolly had less speed? < 1215888234 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was accelerating at first < 1215888243 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which made it turn most of the circle fast < 1215888245 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno. < 1215888388 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why the silence, trying to figure out circumference -> radius? ;) < 1215888393 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't happen < 1215888397 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1215888399 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and circumference->radius is easy < 1215888402 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the problem < 1215888407 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it was a joke, kinda. < 1215888413 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, you saying that's wrong? < 1215888424 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the formula looks right, but acts wrong < 1215888434 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll get it to printf its arguments to see if they're right < 1215888460 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION opens python < 1215888505 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i think it is right < 1215888510 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what's happening < 1215888517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the return value's correct, it just looks wrong < 1215888998 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais < 1215889002 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1215889017 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you do conditionals in an RPN-like language?? < 1215889029 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ::pounce:: < 1215889088 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: put two subprograms on stack, then pop one of them and run tos < 1215889108 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yeah, quotations. < 1215889118 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on, quote the cod?e? < 1215889126 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: quotations are lambdas, basically < 1215889127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[program] < 1215889129 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you end up with < 1215889135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cond [iftrue] [iffalse] if < 1215889146 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally you have combinators manipulating the subprograms < 1215889149 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[x] i == x < 1215889155 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i see, so instead of code, you'd have lambdas < 1215889158 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x y [z] dip == x z y < 1215889158 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok that makes sense. < 1215889161 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1215889164 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(dip is a very useful combinator) < 1215889169 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can build lots of swap-rot-etc things out of it) < 1215889305 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vjn.fi/pb/p265444122.txt the formula is correct < 1215889352 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :took ages, since i kinda managed to confuse angles of complexes and angles on the screen < 1215889358 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the y axis < 1215889366 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1215889385 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't get that, i can explain it < 1215889387 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BREAKING NEWS: ais523+hotidlerchick win ICFP < 1215889387 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's kinda simple < 1215889394 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215889408 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :radizee is the formula < 1215889432 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using that formula now, thanks < 1215889434 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the for loop moves the point "pos" around by turning it by the angle all the time < 1215889450 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're credited (as oklopol, your nick before you swapped) in the README for the mathematical help < 1215889464 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its distance from origo is printed, wavering is because of the discrete simulation ofc < 1215889469 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay :) < 1215889471 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: at least use his real name < 1215889476 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well, I don't know it < 1215889477 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol omniovorol < 1215889480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I credited you as tusho < 1215889480 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /whois! < 1215889484 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1215889485 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ominovorol < 1215889486 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did I do < 1215889518 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :\ < 1215889530 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, don't use oklopol ominovorol, oklopol or ask my actual real name :P < 1215889535 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops. < 1215889543 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, don't use oklopol ominovorol period. use oklopol or ask my actual real name :P < 1215889547 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I'll credit you with your realname if you like < 1215889553 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: 'don't use my real name, oklopol or my real name'?!!12121212 < 1215889556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was using oklopol, and will do except on request < 1215889556 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no but I mean what did I do < 1215889558 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1215889563 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: punctuation was funny. < 1215889585 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was talking about the redundancy actually hotidlerchick < 1215889592 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since oklopol ominovorol is your real name < 1215889660 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a oklopol=hotidlerchick reference, do you actually think that's anyone's irl name? < 1215889676 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's obviously your irl name. < 1215889678 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you lie? < 1215889679 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215889696 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what am I credited -for- < 1215889696 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you speak a cool truth < 1215889698 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know what i did < 1215889699 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1215889726 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you had a helpful mindset < 1215889732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwww < 1215889738 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: eso-std.org, actually < 1215889759 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"TUSHO. FOR BEING ESO-STD.ORG. < 1215889761 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1215889765 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.strip < 1215889805 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph, can't talk on #eso with this nick, "long time no be" was my official join pun. < 1215889831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1215889926 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wait < 1215889928 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you credit me as < 1215889932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho < 1215889944 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can keep the eso-std.org thing, just, you know, I'd like to have a pointer) < 1215889946 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: even though it isn't registered? < 1215889955 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll just get people to domain-squat you, but OK < 1215889956 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes; I've linked to it quite a lot < 1215889958 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll register it sometime < 1215889963 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe even today < 1215890085 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know a guy who registers every domain he sees. < 1215890088 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you be careful < 1215890096 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: who, GregorR? < 1215890102 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vjn.fi/domains/ < 1215890118 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also GregorR < 1215890125 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: you need oklopol.org < 1215890126 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1215890133 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.vjn.fi/oklopol/ < 1215890135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the url is just too ugly < 1215890138 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for such a masterpeice of a page < 1215890139 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1215890143 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1215890151 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, true < 1215890203 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll be more likely to get com < 1215890267 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: is oklopol going to be selling things?!?!?! < 1215890268 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1215890272 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy oklopol today! < 1215890274 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At oklopol.com! < 1215890345 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1215890376 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :com is what i assume < 1215890380 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i don't know what it is < 1215890391 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hotidlerchick: you could just type 'foo' < 1215890396 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and firefox will try .com,.org,google,etc < 1215890399 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o wait < 1215890400 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use ie < 1215890411 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i use firefox < 1215890416 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just like ie better < 1215890799 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olp < 1215890857 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know hotidlerchick, you haven't really done your idling properly < 1215891132 0 :Slereah2!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-25-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215891905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215892143 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just made his blog design even more minimal < 1215892151 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even the header paragraph any more < 1215892155 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I snook an archives link into the footer < 1215892162 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'[All posts] licensed under CC by-sa 3.0.' < 1215892164 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all posts links to the archives < 1215892165 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1215892284 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215892589 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215892599 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1215892901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1215892908 0 :ais523!n=ais523@gb01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1215893813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1215893814 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb ais523 < 1215893842 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for the connection trouble... < 1215893853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least I got the latest version of my ICFP contest entry in on time < 1215893857 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it was buggy < 1215893860 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clap clap < 1215893862 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1215893870 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i take it you'll do more revisions < 1215893873 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just the lightning < 1215893876 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc < 1215895224 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"(1) DO COME FROM ".2~.2"~#1 WHILE :1 <- "'?.1$.2'~'"':1/.1$.2'~#0"$#65535'"$"'"'&.1$.2'~'#0$#65535'"$#0'~#32767$#1"" < 1215895727 0 :Slereah__!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-25-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215896331 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokoko < 1215896344 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good night, hotties < 1215896349 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia'" < 1215896719 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215896807 0 :CakeProphet!n=chatzill@wikipedia/The-Prophet-Wizard-of-the-Crayon-Cake JOIN :#esoteric < 1215896818 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1215896922 0 :timotiis_!n=timotiis@jfkew.plus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1215896950 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can anyone link me to SAIOCP < 1215897082 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1215897160 0 :hotidlerchick!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1215897285 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAIOCP? itym SICP < 1215897419 0 :Slereah2!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-53-27.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215897424 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooooooooo < 1215897431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to be myself again < 1215897453 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i didn't notice any change. < 1215897615 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:12… hotidlerchick is now known as oklopol < 1215897617 0 :timotiis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215897676 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes what's the difference < 1215897681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nick? < 1215897689 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's entirely different < 1215897758 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: same person though < 1215897775 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1215897783 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess nothing happened < 1215897794 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea why it felt like it < 1215898440 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :psygnisfive < 1215898455 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215898955 0 :ihope!n=ihope@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1215898963 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We ought to do a BF busy beaver project on the wiki. < 1215899057 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the most usual format tape infinite in both directions, cells 8-bit and wrapping? < 1215899079 0 :RodgerTheGreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1215899401 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just infinite to the right < 1215899427 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tape is generally finite to the left? < 1215899474 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is going left while on the leftmost cell undefined? < 1215899503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say so < 1215899524 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you generally start at the leftmost cell < 1215899532 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1215899539 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1215899546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's going on? < 1215899627 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well someone down in Tønsberg gave the wrong phone number in a paper advertisement today... the number given happened to be mine :D < 1215899657 0 :Slereah__!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-53-27.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215899685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*newspaper < 1215899701 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than that, not much < 1215899766 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds awesome < 1215899768 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A personal? < 1215899776 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you getting sexay chat? < 1215899799 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just requests for renting an apartment, alas < 1215899828 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: AWESOME < 1215899836 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't have an apartment for you ... but I've got something else for you, baby ;)" < 1215899846 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should find out what its an ad for and answer the phone as tho you were the advertiser < 1215899857 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sell the product to everyone that calls < 1215899859 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1215899873 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh i have so far failed to answer a single of the calls < 1215899892 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1215900005 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because i accidentally had the phone turned off until late afternoon < 1215900140 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i did find the ad though, since one of the recorded calls mentioned the name of the newspaper) < 1215900174 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks that you didnt know about it earlier < 1215900270 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. +[.+] < 1215900289 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolwhat < 1215900298 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new smily? :D < 1215900328 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well-known bf spamming program < 1215900334 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1215900340 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck < 1215900369 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm actually that one stops after one cycle < 1215900384 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does? < 1215900393 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1215900399 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although can still be messy with > 8 bit bf < 1215900424 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it stop after one cycle? < 1215900427 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1215900430 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot if it were here, uses 16 bit by default < 1215900431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one cycle through chars. < 1215900456 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if that was grammatical < 1215900573 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it was NOT < 1215900633 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excuse me while i go feed arrows to my time flies < 1215900665 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215900677 0 :Slereah2!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-53-27.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215900691 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i nearly have enough for my time machine now. BWAHAHAHA! < 1215900820 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, i have conclusively shown that apples fly almost, but not quite like bananas. < 1215900882 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION for clarity wishes to stress that he is on nothing stronger than coffee < 1215900935 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :caffeine! that's what i was missing < 1215900946 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts drinking < 1215900955 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i want egobot back < 1215901029 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, a non-trivial program that outputs a number of characters equal to its length: +++[-...] < 1215901147 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this some new kind of quinoid concept? < 1215901160 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it is like a quine. < 1215901189 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something Haskellian: replicate 16 '.' < 1215901443 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215901498 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scarybuggames.com/2008/05/chronotron/ < 1215901502 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome game < 1215901889 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: better are programs which output their length < 1215901892 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an ascii char < 1215901897 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a 36 char program would print \36 < 1215902499 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: so: < 1215902509 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :putChar'\12' < 1215902514 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1215902530 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1215902536 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's a brainfuck version of that < 1215902583 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something +++[->+++<] -like probably < 1215902594 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with . at the end) < 1215902621 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++[->+++<]. < 1215902643 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no BF interp atm < 1215902789 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++[->+++++++++<]>. i think < 1215903139 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: that doesn't work < 1215903150 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1215903151 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better - < 1215903156 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :output the decimal of the length < 1215903158 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+++[->+++<]>. < 1215903163 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's harder < 1215903165 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes a break from the distro development. < 1215903184 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost have a distro which can boot from a single *5 1/4"* floppy. < 1215903184 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one problem. . . < 1215903194 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've cut out too much of the kernel for it to boot. < 1215903202 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, for that matter, for it to tell me why it won't boot. < 1215903388 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Are you using linux_tiny? < 1215903422 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1215903465 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: whatever the rest of the program does with the length, the ++[->listofplusses<]restofprogram method can be used to initialize a cell with it < 1215903477 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1215904187 0 :Slereah__!n=hax@ANantes-252-1-53-27.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1215904206 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D:< < 1215904220 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah__: lol < 1215904308 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's build a device that will pour liquid nitrogen on the CPU. < 1215904329 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make icecream at the same time! < 1215904413 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215904652 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: the game is a bit too slow for me < 1215904676 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially as you can't skip the trivial levels < 1215904685 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know < 1215904720 0 :Slereah__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What game? < 1215904795 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1215905894 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: cool idea for a game < 1215905896 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very cool < 1215905906 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not time travel though < 1215905909 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's "replaying" < 1215905909 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1215905944 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone help me prove that there isn't a 9-character BF program that uses the . instruction more than 9 times. :-) < 1215905944 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you can cause paradoxes < 1215905966 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: +[.+].... < 1215905968 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disproved. < 1215905971 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: and what happens < 1215905978 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the universe explodes < 1215905985 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: unlikely. < 1215906004 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the game universe does < 1215906009 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: not if cells never wrap. < 1215906018 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: that calls . more than 9 times/ < 1215906031 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it never terminates. < 1215906041 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So? < 1215906044 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One that uses the . instruction more than 9 times and then terminates. < 1215906053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: paradoxes don't make it time travel, you being able to play multiple characters simulataneously would < 1215906074 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess the make it more time travelish < 1215906085 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the deelio with level 19? < 1215906092 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: +++[...-] < 1215906100 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would that be time travel, oklopol. < 1215906112 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That does not use . more than 9 times. < 1215906120 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatchu mean whats the deal with 19? < 1215906135 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: ++[....-] < 1215906136 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does < 1215906139 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1215906141 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't < 1215906146 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're provey < 1215906147 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :disprove it < 1215906168 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1215906188 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/BF_busy_beaver < 1215906204 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: well things could react to their past/future selves < 1215906219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they can now, too, except the control is simplified for the past versions < 1215906222 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prove that a 9-character BF program can't output more than 9 characters before terminating. < 1215906251 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're not oerjan, are you? < 1215906255 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what? < 1215906298 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: just that the past self should already see the future self when playing the first round < 1215906314 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. .. < 1215906314 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: Gee, I should write a program to find these things. < 1215906315 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1215906326 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is achievable how? :P < 1215906336 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: time travel isn't achievable < 1215906337 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an exhaustive search does seem possible < 1215906345 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1215906346 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not saying this isn't the best way to do it < 1215906358 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: It was a joke, since of course it's one of the funnest impossible things. < 1215906364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just saying it's not as close to time travel as one might've hoped < 1215906392 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1215906395 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive weren't talkin' to me < 1215906406 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklo < 1215906408 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how would you do it < 1215906414 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably like that < 1215906431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope has nothing to do with reason < 1215906458 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im having problems with the timing :( < 1215906465 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what lev? < 1215906468 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more guys i have on the screen the crummier it gets < 1215906473 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the frustrating thing about this game < 1215906474 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know 19 is solved < 1215906476 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all levels < 1215906477 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that I see myslef make the same mistakes < 1215906481 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1215906481 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've only needed 4 < 1215906511 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually 5 for one of the simple levels, but i think i could've done with less < 1215906511 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1215906516 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: wanna help with 19? < 1215906523 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i can get it < 1215906527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i simply don't know how the lazer works < 1215906576 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i were really coy, i'd use special magic to reuse the same guy like 5 times < 1215906594 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game should let you do that < 1215906598 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be tons more fun. < 1215906599 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does < 1215906605 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does? < 1215906610 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to envision where you'll be < 1215906617 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember the puzzle where you had to change the past? < 1215906622 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but non-destructively? < 1215906628 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1215906655 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant use part of your past self's movement. < 1215906688 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you don't have to play all of the the round n times if there are n triggers that need to be held simultaneously < 1215906711 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can you help with #19? < 1215906720 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do i, oklopol < 1215906724 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do that < 1215906727 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have to do it right < 1215906729 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1215906731 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I caused a paradox < 1215906733 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing happened < 1215906740 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1215906741 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ey? < 1215906742 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1215906744 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it error'd < 1215906747 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1215906752 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :universe asplode < 1215906756 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy to see how this game really works though < 1215906758 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stores all your moves < 1215906759 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: i don't get how you do it < 1215906760 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then replays them < 1215906761 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as another sprite < 1215906765 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it waits a while < 1215906768 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you're not back at the time pod < 1215906771 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it considers it a paradox < 1215906777 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to be predictive < 1215906781 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say i move to place A, then multiply into 7 guys < 1215906783 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plan everything < 1215906792 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i secord the place, and start from there every time? < 1215906795 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*record < 1215906799 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time travel is the best way to get a clone army though < 1215906807 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you dont record anything dude < 1215906809 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go back to 10 minutes ago repeatedly < 1215906810 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1215906816 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to act as tho you were going to do it < 1215906820 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :walking against walls and stuff < 1215906827 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then when you press the buttons it works < 1215906835 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: sucks rather badly when a clone dies < 1215906844 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:50… oklopol: i meant use part of your past self's movement. <<< i meant "to get the level done faster" < 1215906846 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1215906847 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1215906851 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if we have time travel i hope we have invincibility < 1215906858 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use part of the fucking move-around macro that's being recorded, twice. < 1215906929 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still dont get you < 1215906969 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:52… oklopol: say i move to place A, then multiply into 7 guys ||| 01:52… oklopol: how do i record the place, and start from there every time? <<< i want there to be an answer to this question. < 1215906992 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: he knows there isn't one < 1215906992 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont get what youre asking < 1215906994 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he wants one < 1215906996 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :often, you need to walk n guys into a place, then put each on a different button < 1215907005 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1215907010 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to walk there *once* < 1215907016 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's trivial to walk them all there < 1215907027 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it takes fucking hours < 1215907045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i don't care whether you get it, i want you to help me with #19 < 1215907050 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tell me you won't < 1215907069 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19 is easy < 1215907073 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just go through the motions :P < 1215907081 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to pause before you walk through the laser < 1215907081 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do i get past the lazer? < 1215907090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right, it was a pause :) < 1215907098 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, i got that, but didn't use it < 1215907099 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx. < 1215907175 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1215907192 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: I wonder what BFBB(10) is