00:08:31 <tusho> optbot!
00:08:31 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | not really.
00:08:39 <tusho> the backlog is a lie
00:14:31 <psygnisfive> optbot!
00:14:32 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | a(a).
00:14:34 <psygnisfive> Optbot!
00:14:34 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Sure it is..
00:14:35 <psygnisfive> OPTBOT!
00:14:35 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | 111 +++++++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++>+++++++>++<<<<-]>-.>>.>++.<<<------.>-----.>++++.+.<+.<.>-----.>-.<<.++.>..<. [640].
00:14:36 <psygnisfive> HOOOOO!
00:15:00 <psygnisfive> a(a)?
00:15:15 <psygnisfive> algorithmics anonymous?
00:18:18 <tusho> psygnisfive: 77
00:18:26 <psygnisfive> what?
00:19:10 <tusho> 777777
00:21:14 <psygnisfive> oko?
00:22:55 <tusho> optbot: oko
00:22:55 <optbot> tusho: It's capable of inferring and Doing What You Mean.
00:23:01 <tusho> that's oko alright
00:23:08 <psygnisfive> :)
00:24:28 <tusho> optbot: so, oko
00:24:29 <optbot> tusho: they just have more stuff.
00:24:33 <tusho> optbot: yeah oko has a lot of stuff
00:24:33 <optbot> tusho: shorter numbers, obviously
00:24:41 <tusho> optbot: yea numbers can be expressed really short in oko
00:24:42 <optbot> tusho: because:
00:24:45 <tusho> optbot: because...
00:24:45 <optbot> tusho: Yey! The logs are RealTime!
00:24:50 <tusho> optbot: how is that relevant?
00:24:50 <optbot> tusho: :D
00:24:52 <tusho> optbot: ok.
00:24:53 <optbot> tusho: and that this competion doesn't allow much creativity
00:25:04 <psygnisfive> lmfao
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03:51:42 <psygnisfive> MURGLE
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05:59:34 <Sgeo> Bye all
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09:32:12 <M0ny> hi there
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09:36:41 <AnMaster> M0ny, please turn off that autoaway/autoback announce
09:36:45 <AnMaster> * M0ny is back (gone 10:55:24)
09:37:02 <M0ny> hum... i can't
09:37:08 <AnMaster> what do you mean?
09:37:36 <AnMaster> M0ny, I'm sure there is some setting in your irc client for it
09:37:38 <M0ny> i can't turn off that... 'cause it's usefull with the others channels
09:37:44 <AnMaster> M0ny, it isn't
09:37:49 <AnMaster> M0ny, please read http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
09:38:14 <fizzie> Strange channels, those; I thought those "I'm back"-messages were universally reviled.
09:38:38 <AnMaster> "No definitions were found for reviled."
09:38:40 <AnMaster> fizzie, ^
09:39:42 <M0ny> yeah
09:39:46 <M0ny> nice :)
09:39:50 <fizzie> revile, Verb, [-viling, -viled] to be abusively scornful of: his works were reviled and admired in equal measure
09:39:51 <AnMaster> but if it means "hated" then I agree
09:40:09 <AnMaster> fizzie, never seen a channel that likes public away messages
09:40:14 <AnMaster> and I hope M0ny will turn it off
09:40:18 <M0ny> ok, AnMaster, that's it
09:40:22 <M0ny> yeah
09:40:24 <M0ny> look
09:40:31 <M0ny> i'm away
09:40:33 <AnMaster> you can still use /whois
09:40:41 <AnMaster> * [M0ny] is away (I will be back !)
09:40:54 <M0ny> i'm back
09:41:07 <AnMaster> well no need to mention it on the channel :)
09:41:17 <M0ny> ;)
09:41:25 <M0ny> sorry ^^
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10:44:19 <M0ny> bye
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11:20:54 <tusho> y helo dar
11:23:44 <tusho> p.s. anmaster nobody really cares all that much
11:25:01 <tusho> it is a bit annoying
11:25:15 <tusho> but I didn't ask m0ny to turn it off because it's not worth the effort asking him
11:26:32 <oklopol> i definitely wanna know where people are, all the time
11:26:52 <tusho> oh, and my client automatically nicks me to tusho|away
11:26:57 <tusho> i am not turning it off because it's work and I don't care
11:27:19 <tusho> it also does auto-away
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12:31:58 <tusho> see?
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12:42:27 <tusho> hah
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13:02:37 <tusho> optbot: discuss
13:02:37 <optbot> tusho: not such an accurate quine then
13:02:45 <tusho> optbot:  that wasn't a quine
13:02:45 <optbot> tusho: ?
13:02:49 <tusho> optbot: :\ make more sense
13:02:49 <optbot> tusho: non-integers don't exist in the language yet :-P
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13:24:50 <tusho> hi Mony
13:25:00 <Mony> hi tusho
13:25:07 <tusho> optbot: say hi to mony
13:25:07 <optbot> tusho: sequence too large; must be smaller than 32
13:25:16 <tusho> optbot: um "mony" isn't more than 32 letters
13:25:16 <optbot> tusho: heh. sounds analagous to "vendor lockin"
13:25:25 <Mony> strange hi :p
13:25:30 <tusho> optbot: what's a person got to do with vendor lockin? oh, i didn't mean "money" i meant the person Mony in here
13:25:30 <optbot> tusho: ah well never mind
13:25:33 <tusho> ok :)
13:25:43 <Mony> ^^
13:27:55 <tusho> optbot!
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13:37:16 <deveah> can somebody recomend me a good Sinclair BASIC compiler (like compiling .tzx tapes) ?
13:38:42 <tusho> nope
13:38:42 <tusho> :D
13:38:51 <deveah> thanks
13:39:52 <deveah> I really need one :(
13:40:18 <Mony> google is your friend :D
13:40:46 <deveah> what should I google for so I don't get shit?
13:41:19 <tusho> deveah: sinclair basic compiler
13:41:39 <deveah> I alrady googled that and I get the same python compiler that doesn't compile shit
13:42:05 <tusho> maybe you're doin' it wrong with that compiler
13:42:21 <olsner> not many compilers do compile faeces
13:52:34 <AnMaster> indeed, however you can still pipe it to some other program
13:52:38 <AnMaster> </lame joke>
13:53:37 <olsner> coprophagia: piping shit on stdin
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14:18:01 <tusho> From reddit:
14:18:11 <tusho> headline: Linux Foundation Launches Killer Development Tool
14:18:19 <tusho> <vininim> Is it reiserfs?
14:18:27 <olsner> heh
14:18:44 <olsner> obvious pun is obvious
14:19:10 <olsner> "Is that the tool they used to build Hans Reiser?"
14:21:50 <tusho> heh
14:23:04 <tusho> optbot: joke about hans reiser
14:23:05 <optbot> tusho: That one is fun
14:23:14 <tusho> optbot: yeah real fun!
14:23:14 <optbot> tusho: no
14:23:19 <tusho> optbot: no? he's not?
14:23:19 <optbot> tusho: It was a joke to refer to your mention of illegal download
14:23:28 <tusho> optbot: ah, you are comparing illegal downloading to killing? Wow.
14:23:28 <optbot> tusho: ha ha
14:23:33 <tusho> optbot: oh, you were joking. hehehe :)
14:23:34 <optbot> tusho: ah
14:23:39 <olsner> maybe someone should build a @reiserpun plugin for lambdabot
14:23:40 <tusho> olsner: see, he can think
14:23:59 <tusho> also I concur but s/lambdabot/botte/
14:23:59 <tusho> :D
14:24:42 <olsner> "Reiserfs - the file system to die for!" but it's slightly base to be essentially joking about the death of Nina Reiser
14:25:20 <tusho> olsner: everybody dies, sometimes they're killed, reiser has had a trial and a judgement has been passed, joking about it isn't hurting anyone
14:26:31 <olsner> and then there's the two children who will bear the stigma of having their mother killed by their famous killer father...
14:27:24 <tusho> olsner: which they're going to have whether we joke about it or not
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14:28:09 <olsner> "Hmm... should I install the file system written by the guy that killed mom, or that other one?"
14:28:36 <tusho> haha it's not like reiserfs is all _that_  good anyway :D
14:29:05 <tusho> optbot: reiserfs
14:29:05 <optbot> tusho: are you talking about variable assignment?
14:29:08 <tusho> optbot: no
14:29:08 <optbot> tusho: hash_t h = 0x7fd6_52ad ^ (8 * m)
14:29:15 <tusho> optbot: that is a variable declaration & assignment
14:29:15 <optbot> tusho: I understand
14:29:19 <tusho> optbot: ok so reiserfs
14:29:19 <optbot> tusho: Then why did you ask?
14:29:24 <tusho> optbot: because reiserfs
14:29:24 <optbot> tusho: got to finish this parser crap first :D
14:29:26 <tusho> optbot: ok
14:29:26 <optbot> tusho: now.. make an interpreter, i wanna code something!
14:29:29 <olsner> but I guess that's pretty trivial compared to having your only living parent be the one that killed the other one, a situation they're probably not alone about
14:29:32 <tusho> optbot: no :\
14:29:33 <optbot> tusho: (= cons {(-> [h t] {(-> [$pb :] [h t]) (-> $car h) (-> $cdr t) (-> [$setcar h] h) (-> [$setcdr t] t) (-> [$! 0] h) (-> [$! n] (! t (- n 1))) (-> $length (+ 1 (length t)))})})(= list (cons 5 (cons 4 (cons 3 (cons 2 (cons 1 (cons 0 nil)))))))(= qs {(-> (: h t) (+ (qs (flr {(< _ h)} t)) (+ [h] (qs (flr {(>= _ h)} t))))) []})(qs list)
14:29:38 <tusho> optbot: that's mine :D
14:29:39 <optbot> tusho: *sigh*
14:29:41 <tusho> :\
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15:02:27 <ais523> hi tusho
15:02:29 <ais523> optbot!
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15:02:40 <tusho> urgh
15:02:45 * tusho stabs his eyes out with a rake
15:02:48 <tusho> I am currently installing gobby
15:03:07 <tusho> and I have just entered the TWENTY FIRST CENTURY by installing a news aggregator
15:04:31 <ais523> ah, well done
15:05:05 <tusho> i am not really that excited. i am too far in to the habit of loading websites every now and then
15:05:17 <tusho> taking it in at my own pace, etc
15:05:39 <ais523> I find my aggregator helps me by preventing me uselessly repeatedly loading websites
15:05:48 <ais523> and you can always just ignore it for a while
15:06:20 <tusho> ais523: but, see, I like uselessly repeating loading of websites
15:06:26 <tusho> I think "oh, I wonder if X has something new" and check it
15:08:51 <tusho> Possibly I want a feed reader integrated with my browesr.
15:19:03 <tusho> ais523: gobby installin'
15:19:07 <tusho> oh dear
15:19:11 <tusho> gobby not installing
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15:23:30 <tusho> yay
15:23:32 <tusho> installin
15:30:59 <tusho> still installin
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16:24:52 <tusho> ais523: back
16:24:54 <tusho> and it's installed
16:25:11 <ais523> ah, good
16:25:42 <tusho> ais523: #feather-lang
16:26:02 <ais523> although I'm a bit busy at the moment, writing a script to do the Notary's weekly report
16:26:04 <ais523> but that shouldn't take long
16:26:09 <ais523> also I have to go by 7 because it's a Saturday
16:26:20 <tusho> OK
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17:33:49 <ais523> optbot: you alive?
17:33:50 <optbot> ais523: employer can only be constructed via another member of class employer, or by forcesOfTheFreeMarket().
17:38:27 <fizzie> Dumm, dumm, dumn. befunge.org expires in one hour.
17:38:35 <ais523> fizzie: who has it atm/
17:38:38 <ais523> s/\//?/
17:38:38 <fizzie> I.
17:38:54 <ais523> fizzie: were you planning to use it for anything?
17:39:01 <fizzie> But I haven't done anything with it during the 6 years I've had it, so I'm thinking about letting it expire.
17:39:10 <fizzie> I guess I must've had some plans at some point, but...
17:39:11 <ais523> yes, that makes sense really
17:39:32 <ais523> it's rare for individual esolangs to have their own domains, LOLCODE is the only one I can think of
17:39:32 <tusho> Someone should buy it as a gift to ESO. :-P
17:39:35 <ais523> normally they have subdomains instead
17:41:42 <fizzie> I did use it for an IRC vhost on this channel briefly in 2002-2003, but that's about it. Oh, and GregorR from this channel had a web page for FYB, but that's now at codu.org/eso/ apparently.
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18:13:27 <tusho> optbot: start a conversation
18:13:27 <optbot> tusho: I've had experience with bad project names, and this isn't one
18:13:30 <tusho> optbot: heh
18:13:31 <optbot> tusho: it DOES compile to brainfuck...
18:13:38 <tusho> optbot: call it tofuck?
18:13:38 <optbot> tusho: i mean s/foo/x/g;s/bar/y/g
18:13:41 <tusho> ah
18:13:50 <tusho> optbot: that will produce valid brainfuck but it won't do anything
18:13:51 <optbot> tusho: so ican do a kimian quine
18:13:59 <tusho> optbot: you'd have to have unmatched brackets for that
18:14:00 <optbot> tusho: heh
18:31:03 <AnMaster> is 3 less than a few?
18:31:16 <AnMaster> where is the limit for calling something "a few" in other words
18:31:56 <AnMaster> tusho, ^
18:32:05 <tusho> AnMaster: a few is indeterminate
18:32:11 <tusho> 3 is a few, 7 might be a few
18:33:05 <AnMaster> tusho, but 2 can't be "a few"?
18:34:44 <tusho> AnMaster: no
18:34:46 <tusho> 2 is a couple
18:35:27 * AnMaster ponders what -2 objects would be
18:35:41 <AnMaster> apart from nonsense
18:39:37 <AnMaster> a negative couple?
18:39:47 <AnMaster> (with reversed polarity! ;)
18:39:55 <tusho> AnMaster: a elpuoc
18:39:59 <tusho> *an
18:40:02 <AnMaster> hah good
18:40:08 <AnMaster> tusho, no
18:40:14 <AnMaster> na elpuoc
18:40:34 <AnMaster> it is virulent ;P
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18:58:17 <Mony> bye
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19:59:20 <AnMaster> tusho, there?
19:59:25 <tusho> yep
19:59:32 <AnMaster> tusho, I just have a mad idea
19:59:42 <AnMaster> want to hear?
19:59:44 <tusho> sure
19:59:45 <AnMaster> ColourFeather
19:59:47 <AnMaster> XD
19:59:51 <tusho> heh
19:59:54 <tusho> AnMaster: you could add that
20:00:00 <AnMaster> tusho, I got no clue how
20:00:06 <AnMaster> but I think ColorForth is mad
20:00:11 <AnMaster> hrrm
20:00:13 <AnMaster> ColorFunge?
20:00:16 <AnMaster> URK
20:00:16 <tusho> AnMaster: Just use feather to overwrite its eval with a modified interpreter
20:00:16 <tusho> :P
20:03:09 <AnMaster> Deewiant, how would ColorFunge work?
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20:12:10 <AnMaster> tusho, ais never posted those examples
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20:17:28 <Deewiant> AnMaster: huh?
20:17:39 <Deewiant> hmm
20:17:42 <Deewiant> would it? :-P
20:18:29 <AnMaster> Deewiant, would what?
20:18:30 <AnMaster> ah
20:18:31 <AnMaster> oh
20:18:38 <AnMaster> Deewiant, an interesting idea though
20:19:24 <Deewiant> on a related note, is the IP tracing interface done in the Funge-108 spec/cfunge?
20:19:31 <AnMaster> eh
20:19:33 <Deewiant> (came to mind from colors)
20:19:35 <AnMaster> that is not part of Funge-108
20:19:41 <AnMaster> it is a separate project
20:19:45 <AnMaster> that I never had time to finish
20:19:55 <Deewiant> ah, I misremembered it as an optional Funge-108 extension or something like that
20:20:06 <Deewiant> but yeah, I gather you haven't worked on it
20:20:16 <AnMaster> I did write the specs for it
20:20:22 <AnMaster> but I haven't coded anything on it for cfunge
20:20:32 <Deewiant> were they finalized or did we still have some issues, I can't remember
20:20:34 <AnMaster> nor do I know when I will have time to
20:20:42 <AnMaster> Deewiant, I can't either
20:20:54 <AnMaster> but probably quite complex to implement
20:21:02 <Deewiant> not necessarily
20:21:07 <AnMaster> but of course I could steal your implementation if you do it
20:21:09 <AnMaster> ;P
20:21:10 <Deewiant> :-P
20:21:15 <Deewiant> is the spec up somewhere
20:21:31 <AnMaster> probably in rage.kuonet.org/~anmaster/tmp if it is anywhere
20:21:47 <AnMaster> ah yes frontend protocol
20:21:49 <AnMaster> that may be it
20:22:08 <Deewiant> "draft 1"
20:22:17 <Deewiant> probably the one with which there were issues :-P
20:22:18 <AnMaster> hm
20:22:31 <Deewiant> because I do remember skimming through a PDF and complaining
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20:22:39 <AnMaster> oh yes I remember that too
20:22:54 <AnMaster> but I think I corrected it and forgot to update title
20:23:03 <AnMaster> local version is the same you see
20:23:12 <AnMaster> at least on a quick glance
20:23:36 <Deewiant> or then it was never corrected ;-)
20:25:20 <AnMaster> Deewiant, well I think it was
20:27:20 <Deewiant> well, I'll bookmark it and maybe complain more later :-)
20:42:58 <tusho> hi
20:49:13 <tusho> :)
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21:35:28 <tusho> :P
21:37:32 <AnMaster> tusho, if someone made ColorFunge, what file format should be used?
21:37:37 * tusho shrugs
21:37:42 <tusho> use ansi colour codes
21:37:48 <AnMaster> hah nice one
21:38:09 <tusho> why not
21:38:12 <tusho> there are already many editors
21:38:18 <AnMaster> indeed why not
21:38:37 <pikhq> Make it Emacs-friendly, and all is well in the world.
21:38:50 <AnMaster> pikhq, I got no idea if I will ever make it
21:39:15 <AnMaster> it is just a vague idea on the level "would this even work"
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22:05:29 <tusho> AnMaster: have
22:05:43 <AnMaster> ah
22:05:44 <AnMaster> night
22:07:34 <tusho> bye
22:07:36 <tusho> optbot!
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23:42:19 <Tritonio_> anybody here?
23:44:05 <tusho> no
23:45:11 <olsner> P-P-P-Paradox!
23:55:47 <Tritonio_> where do you write brainfuck?
23:55:58 <Tritonio_> any good debugger for linux?