00:00:01 э 00:00:03 thats the one 00:00:11 the second one before is ukranian cyrillic ie 00:00:23 oh you mean the CHARACTER E 00:00:29 I guess. 00:00:30 sorry i thought you meant the letter 00:00:56 yes: 00:01:02 Е 00:01:07 but thats ukranian cyrillic 00:01:22 or maybe just cyrillic in general 00:01:27 it says its cyrillic capital ie 00:01:39 and e is small letter ie 00:01:42 but its still e 00:01:53 Є 00:01:56 thats the ukranian ie 00:03:11 So Е, E and Ε are all different characters. 00:03:23 i guess! :o 00:03:34 EEЕEEEEEEEEEΕEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. 00:03:59 im sure there are others as well 00:04:05 Ε 00:04:07 capital epsilon 00:05:08 Ꭼ cherokee GV 00:05:24 Now, that one doesn't show here. 00:05:29 ah 00:05:37 well it looks like a serify E 00:06:12 An E with lines at the top and bottom out the back and front and also in the middle out the front, or something like that, anyway? 00:06:38 er 00:06:43 like E in times new roman. :P 00:07:33 Yeah, that. 00:07:47 serifs. 00:20:09 -!- LinuS has quit ("Puzzi. 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Puzzi."). 00:27:11 . 00:34:55 -!- RedDak has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 00:36:48 , 00:38:23 ß 00:38:32 ø,œo˙øpøʼ̛Ø̛̋̄Ø̋ ̑̃Œ̛̈́Ø̛̋̄”‚°̀·‚‡°̀·‡°·‡̀°·‡°·̛̱̣̣̈̆̃̋̊̉̃̊̋̆̋̊ ̱̑̆̋̊̄ ̑̆Ð̱̊̋ ̑̆Ð̱̊̋̄ ̑̆Ð 00:38:46 Éxá©þøü. 00:38:52 dogface: iojøʼ˝¯. 00:39:09 ;p; 00:39:55 Úñfó®túñátély, Í ©áñ´t úñðé®stáñð á thíñg yóú sáy. 00:40:09 noone can, dont worry 00:40:15 tusho's incomprehensible 00:40:29 tusho, στοπ βεινγ σο ινψομπρεηενσιβλε. 00:40:54 dogface: ̋̄̆Ð̄̈̈≥ ̄Ø ̛̱̑̄Œ̆́ 00:41:06 Σηαλλ ςε ψοντινθε βεινγ ινψομπρεηενσιβλε? 00:41:32 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you know, i think i know. 00:41:37 ℕº㎡Åⅅ∑! 00:42:00 * dogface slaps oklopol 00:42:08 oklopol isnt here! :( 00:42:19 I take it ⅅ is some sort of n character. 00:42:25 itds a d 00:42:26 o.o 00:42:35 Inmade? 00:42:39 what? 00:42:45 What you said. 00:42:50 Nomads. 00:42:54 exactly! 00:42:58 Oh. 00:43:24 * dogface ponders incomprehensible things 00:43:42 Arrogant, I know. 00:44:14 not at all 00:44:48 you admit theyre incomprehensible, so its not like you comprehend them 00:45:29 I didn't know Maltese was even a language, you know. 00:45:35 well it is 00:46:03 Boring. 00:57:24 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/6888/oopbad.htm OOP Cube 00:57:30 By "topmind". 00:59:21 -!- Tritonio_ has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:07:25 -!- tusho has quit ("Leaving..."). 01:45:42 I dunno, that article doesn't have nearly enough crazy to truly compare to timecube 01:51:47 -!- Corun has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 01:53:33 -!- Sgeo_ has joined. 02:05:38 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 02:05:56 -!- adu has joined. 03:30:54 -!- dogface has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 03:40:13 03:52:27 hi 04:23:21 -!- adu has quit. 06:06:32 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 06:13:05 -!- Sgeo has joined. 06:40:33 -!- Sgeo has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:41:32 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Did you also happen to fail to notice that Tcl is imperative as fuck?. 07:03:31 -!- Deewiant has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:07:28 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 08:17:12 -!- GreaseMonkey has changed nick to ^_`. 08:18:03 -!- ^_` has changed nick to GreaseMonkey. 08:31:50 -!- Figs has joined. 08:32:31 Howdy 08:33:45 http://rafb.net/p/LNIIjB27.html <-- is this the start of something evil? 08:43:24 http://rafb.net/p/t2kLGX37.html <-- this is probably slightly better 08:43:29 * Figs prods oklopol 09:05:21 painful. 09:05:22 well, `night 09:05:25 oh 09:05:29 someone's here! :D 09:05:55 It is, isn't it? :) 09:07:28 yeah 09:07:33 you will die badly now. 09:07:40 * GreaseMonkey uses the die-badly tool 09:09:08 -!- Tritonio_ has joined. 09:15:15 Ok, now I shall vanish 09:15:18 *poof* 09:15:19 -!- Figs has left (?). 09:31:56 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 09:33:07 -!- Deewiant has joined. 09:38:30 -!- Mony has joined. 09:38:48 hi 09:39:02 'lo 09:49:22 -!- fizzie has joined. 09:49:56 'noon. 10:02:13 -!- jemarch has joined. 10:02:39 hi 10:20:28 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("Jesus loves you"). 10:32:49 so how about theoretical practical physics, the study of ai methods for discovering facts about the rules of cellular automata from within the system itself 10:34:39 and practical theoretical physics, where these rules are then used to anticipate the events after n steps, and use them for the advantage of the agent 10:35:12 s/use them/used 10:35:22 okokokokokokokokokokokokoko 10:35:43 wouldn't it be awesome to have a little scientist turtle 10:36:07 i'd so tickle its chin with my massive godly hands 10:36:32 jemarch: hi 10:42:02 in the same fashion, i might enjoy practical theoretical psychology, except in this case you'd probably want to allow a human as the observer, and thus the scientist 10:42:39 really the study of turtle mind 10:43:30 non mathematically speaking, really anticipating the choices it will make with artificial simplified constructs representing its complex ai mind 10:43:40 teeth, doing them -> 10:51:44 Is he creating life-forms, or what does the teeth-doing comment refer to? 10:53:25 brush action, was going i 10:53:43 anyway should i read about graphs of ai now 10:54:12 graphs are undeniably sexier 10:54:26 but this is not about my preferences 10:54:38 but about your preferences 10:57:43 damn you people, yesternight it was blah blah about any random shit that was mentioned, in a speed that exceeded the processing speed of my brain, and now i can't get one bit of information :) 11:05:51 I vote for graphs; AI is bogus. 11:06:27 thanks 11:06:38 been waiting for an answer for ages 11:06:46 on like 5 channels :D 11:06:58 as if i could ever choose anything 11:06:59 -> 11:34:09 -!- tusho has joined. 12:00:07 -!- Deewiant has quit (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)). 12:19:14 optbot! 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13:04:47 your mother is oval 13:05:22 really the only way to get pregnant, so kind of a tautology 13:05:25 Also, 5 days since i was here last and i am just halfway through the Triangle and Robert archive. 13:08:56 current snapshot: http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?1343 13:12:08 hmph, i was hoping it'd be high-level mathematical humor i have no way of getting 13:12:52 there was one mathematical pun that made me laugh out loud - let me find it again 13:14:15 http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?1276 13:17:52 only the first joke is a pun 13:18:03 and the latter isn't terribly funny 13:18:11 i never said otherwise 13:18:23 i'm not saying you did 13:18:26 i'm only stating random facts 13:18:47 anyway, i don't want puns, i want jokes that are purely mathematical! 13:18:55 actually the latter is not a joke - it is a plot device 13:19:05 i see 13:20:55 i suppose T&R has surprisingly few math jokes for having polygons as the main characters 13:21:49 it's mostly absurdist and meta-humor 13:23:08 yeah 13:23:55 and geekiness 13:24:05 i need to get a math degree so i can start making comics 13:24:33 well, i already have enough expertise to confuse the average geek 13:24:53 but so does asiekierka with his esolang ones, so i'm not terribly satisfied :P 13:25:58 at least one relied on +[], i doubt everyone will read that as the normal form of the infinite loop :-) 13:26:11 i had this idea once of three mathketeers - Orthos, Pathos and d'Arctangent 13:26:52 :) 13:26:57 hm d'Artagnan was not actually one of the 3 musketeers, says WP 13:27:15 serves me for not actually having read the books :D 13:27:17 right he was the one that met the guys and owned their asses off 13:27:42 the skript kiddie they never acknowledged as a part of their secret society 13:27:59 i haven't read the books either, but i've seen 5 minutes of one of the movies 13:28:54 * oerjan nevertheless knows enough to suspect oklopol is trying to fool him 13:29:13 "script kiddie", come on 13:29:28 well that was more of a metaphor 13:30:04 for whatever he may have been in the book! 13:30:07 *s 13:36:59 oh and of course there would cardinals 13:37:08 *would be 13:41:57 always with the puns :) 13:42:08 ^bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[->+>++>+++<<<]>>>-------------------------------------------.+++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++++++++.---------------------.--------------.++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++.---------.+++++++.++++.<----------------------------------------------.>-----------.++++++++++.<.>----------------.++++++++++++..---.<.>++++++++++++.<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. 13:42:08 JavaScript is cool xD 13:44:53 i'll make a terrible pun, and then i'll call him Attila. 13:46:05 what the heck, someone on Uncyclopedia already thought of that 13:46:41 i don't get it 13:46:58 Attila, the terrible pun 13:49:29 hmm right, i was actually going by a more strict definition of pun 13:49:48 wise advice from Uncyclopedia: "Although puns don.t kill people, people kill people who make puns." 13:51:04 what strict definition? 13:54:41 well i didn't see the small hamming distance enough to associate pun and hun. 13:54:48 *as enough 13:56:26 i c 13:57:15 you don't even have eyes 13:59:06 yes i do. my rumors of my polygoniality have been strongly exaggerated 13:59:21 *the 13:59:49 or was that a freudian slip, hm 14:23:11 ^bf 0.1> #<:#<.#<:#<0#<0# .. 14:28:40 ^bf >>+++++++[<<+[>+++<-]>[<+++>-]>-]<< 14:29:32 will fungot die if given an infloop? 14:29:51 the number is very big 14:30:02 5380839 14:35:33 nice, the king of karlsruhe :D 14:35:51 hehe 14:36:05 :) 14:37:24 ^bf 14:37:24 >>+++++++[<<+[>+++<-]>[<+++>-]>-]<<>>>>+++++++[<<+[>+++<-]>[<+++>-]>-]<<>>>>+++++++[<<+[>+++<-]>[<+++>-]>-]<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[->+>++>+++<<<]>>>-------------------------------------------.+++++++++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++++++++.---------------------.--------------.++++++++++++++++.+++++++++++++++.---------.+++++++.++++.<----------------------------------------------.>-----------.++++++++++.<.>--- 14:37:24 -------------.++++++++++++..---.<.>++++++++++++.<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. 14:38:13 uh oh :) 14:38:42 ^bf >>+++++++[<<+[>+++<-]>[<+++>-]>-]<<>>>>+++++++[<<+[>+++<-]>[<+++>-]>-]<<+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[->+<]>++++++++++++++.--.+++++.--------.++++++++.-----.++++++. 14:38:43 ...out of time! 14:38:49 :o 14:38:53 hehehe 14:39:15 KingOfKarlsruhe: you printed that after a ridiculously long computation, or fizzie has a timeout? 14:39:56 i calculate 2 big numbers and then i print a string 14:40:20 and this break fizzie 14:40:42 hm 14:46:26 -!- dogface has joined. 15:47:04 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 15:50:24 -!- MikeRiley has joined. 15:56:51 -!- tusho has changed nick to tusho|away. 16:20:10 -!- Sgeo has joined. 16:28:39 -!- MikeRiley has quit ("Leaving"). 16:32:09 -!- Hiato has joined. 16:39:14 -!- Hiato has quit ("Leaving."). 16:40:07 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 16:44:01 -!- RedDak has joined. 17:02:35 -!- MikeRiley has joined. 17:04:10 -!- oklopol has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 17:04:30 -!- asiekierka has joined. 17:04:32 hi 17:04:36 I was on a trip for one day 17:04:50 -!- ais523 has joined. 17:04:56 and i made 3 comics 17:05:01 2 of which i'm going to publish 17:05:04 s/comics/screebles 17:05:20 * ais523 waits to say hi to tusho until e's back 17:07:14 Ok 17:07:17 JPGed them 17:07:18 now upping 17:07:34 Then i may find a better server 17:07:35 or look for one 17:09:35 Actually, comic #22 beat my record of the longest comic 17:09:40 #16 was the longest, before i made #22. 17:09:47 That beast took me a longa time 17:09:48 s/comic/screeble 17:10:03 Okay 17:10:17 http://asiekierka.boot-land.net/screebles - Comic #21 and #22 is there 17:10:27 Both comics have some hints :P 17:10:38 Some secrets. 17:11:52 I know i cut the text on the bottom... sorry. 17:12:14 But that doesn't break anything. It's just testing anyway. 17:19:39 asiekierka: have you received a Normish password? 17:21:33 where should i receive it? 17:21:34 since no 17:22:17 adduser: The user `asiekierka' already exists. 17:22:21 Whoever activated your passwd proposal should have given it to you. 17:22:26 I wasn't on 17:22:28 at that time 17:22:29 maybe 17:22:30 :D 17:45:02 -!- MikeRiley has quit ("Leaving"). 18:01:08 -!- RedDak has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:04:17 -!- asiekierka has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:04:34 -!- asiekierka has joined. 18:13:23 -!- asiekierka has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:19:57 -!- asiekierka has joined. 18:20:26 heh 18:32:27 -!- ais523 has quit ("rebooting my computer, will be back soon"). 18:33:37 fungot's there 18:33:38 yay 18:37:28 -!- ais523 has joined. 18:41:32 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | well. 18:42:07 optbot! 18:42:07 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | print *dot. 18:42:09 optbot! 18:42:09 -!- optbot has set topic: the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | not thou!. 18:42:20 optbot? 18:42:20 ais523: although if you pass it by reference it won't be much anyhow 18:42:27 optbot? 18:42:27 ais523: yes :p 18:44:57 -!- oklopol has joined. 18:57:17 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 19:09:16 -!- tusho|away has changed nick to tusho. 19:09:23 hi ais523 19:09:29 hi tusho 19:09:31 and welcome back 19:30:33 -!- MikeRiley has joined. 19:40:26 -!- MikeRiley has quit ("Leaving"). 19:47:34 -!- asiekierka has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 19:48:43 -!- jix has joined. 19:52:51 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:25:13 -!- pikhq has joined. 20:26:58 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 20:37:19 -!- MikeRiley has joined. 20:39:09 -!- pikhq has quit ("leaving"). 20:39:22 -!- pikhq has joined. 20:46:24 -!- asiekierka has joined. 20:50:48 -!- dark_templar has joined. 20:51:32 Evening. 20:51:37 evening 20:51:44 evening 20:51:47 Afternoon. 20:59:10 Night. 20:59:10 :P 21:00:39 morning 21:00:50 oklopol: is it morning where you are? 21:00:53 No. 21:00:57 Unless he's on a trip. 21:01:00 He might be, actually. 21:01:08 What with the tooth-brushing at an odd time. 21:01:09 Hmm. Garageband is fun. 21:01:22 * ais523 just did /ctcp #esoteric time 21:01:39 for a couple of people here, it's Saturday already 21:01:53 and it's only early afternoon for MikeRiley 21:02:01 I made two things in Garageband today and one yesterday. It is too addictive. 21:02:03 yep....only 1pm here... 21:02:11 (Warning: Will make you want to rip your ears off. Possibly.) http://filebin.ca/afherd The Song's Title is "The Song's Title Is", http://filebin.ca/ucfxpg XXXXXXXXX (That's 7 Xs), http://filebin.ca/wpchxe Happy Happy Fun Time P.S. Please Kill Yourself 21:03:04 (Or if you're the people I've showed them to so far, you'll like them. This probably means you're deaf. Go figure.) 21:03:13 fizzie: i brushed my teeth when i woke up 21:03:16 tusho: you wrote those? 21:03:22 but no i'm never on a trip 21:03:23 (n.b. I'm not listening to them) 21:03:28 ais523: Pieced them together in Garageband. :P 21:03:29 oklopol; Wasn't it quite late? 21:03:32 and garageband isn't good 21:03:38 oklopol: i didn't say good 21:03:38 I said fun 21:03:41 which it is 21:03:56 the matrix view doesn't let you do anything but 1/2^n length notes 21:04:02 good = fun 21:04:11 for my purposes 21:04:39 Well, I had fun messing about with it and I'm happy with the little things I made with it. 21:04:40 So there. :P 21:05:03 fizzie: what time was it? 21:05:07 i don't remember 21:05:29 oklopol; 12:43:40. 21:05:46 8| 21:05:52 that's late for you? :P 21:06:03 i usually never wake up before 15 21:06:03 fizzie: AM or PM? 21:06:51 24-hour clock, so PM. 21:07:09 fizzie: 12 is late? :| 21:07:28 well I was asleep at 12 21:07:28 On a time note, I am getting up at 5:25 on the 18th. 21:07:29 \o/ 21:07:32 so you could infer that it was late 21:07:34 :D 21:07:36 Well, yes; I am usually at work at 09AM. 21:07:41 tusho: those sound like real instruments 21:07:46 oklopol: they're not :P 21:08:00 okay, garageband has really improved then :D 21:12:17 anyway you actually wrote these, and didn't put together existing samples and add the stuff that sounds random after that :P 21:12:27 just checking because this is not that bad 21:13:24 tusho: are those MP3s without the .mp3? 21:13:38 dogface: Quite. 21:13:46 oklopol: Uh, I may have pilfered a few samples. :P 21:14:21 * dogface allegedly listens to one 21:14:46 tusho: the recursive title was my fav 21:15:06 also HHFTPKY's fast guitar thingie in the end 21:15:17 "This is the title of this story, which also appears several times in the story itself." 21:15:28 the title of a rather pointless story in which every sentence was self-referential 21:15:30 tusho: my brother says he heard 'The Song's Title is "The Song's Title Is"' on WordGirl once. 21:15:36 it spent most of its time arguing about what its plot is 21:15:44 dogface: Haha wut 21:15:46 ais523: fun! 21:15:56 I can't remember where I saw it though, it isn't mine 21:15:57 tusho: I guess they stole your song. 21:16:03 dogface: Crazy. 21:16:10 dogface: Wait, including the crazy bit at 1:12? 21:16:21 And all the "AND NOW FOR SOME UNRELATED PIANO" bits? :P 21:16:32 Are you damaging my speakers with very high-amplitude low-frequency sounds? 21:16:34 tusho: /me shrugs. 21:17:00 dogface: You mean the bass at the end of HHFTPKY? 21:17:01 :P 21:17:31 Who knows. 21:17:45 I think that every peice of silence in music should be a very high or low pitched sound though. 21:17:54 Maybe something like a dog whistle. 21:17:58 "Huh?? What is it??" 21:18:06 tusho: actually in practice it is 21:18:08 "Why are you freaking out? Everything's silent!" 21:18:12 ais523: Well, yes. 21:18:14 at least when recorded onto tape 21:18:20 ais523: You know what I meant :P 21:18:45 so that the magnetic read head doesn't distort the signal due to its weirdness at low amplitudes 21:19:08 Cool. 21:19:10 and yes, I know what I meant, but seeing as I'm an electronic engineer (in training) I may as well show off when a question in my field actually comes up, which is rarely 21:19:26 Happy Happy Happy is nice. 21:19:52 ais523: do they teach you stuff like how to compile Proce programs into electronics? 21:19:53 There's only two happies. :P 21:20:10 That's why I referred to it as Happy Happy Happy Happy. 21:20:11 dogface: not Proce, but they did teach us how to compile VHDL into electronics 21:21:27 tusho: well these sound like nice riffs pieced together randomly, so i'm just gonna assume everything that sounds good is not from you :P 21:21:34 make something from scratch, i wanna hear 21:21:46 oklopol: have you heard my Hello, World in Fugue yet? 21:21:55 ais523: ofc 21:21:57 oklopol: I can assure you that you do not want to hear the cacophony that occurs when I try and make music from scratch. 21:22:01 ais523: but VHDL is digital! :-) 21:22:03 Also, HHFTPKY isn't that random. :P 21:22:18 Whoo. 21:22:18 And that synthy interlude I did! :-P 21:22:22 I is in dorm. 21:22:23 Well, you guys are making me want to create music from scratch. 21:22:30 dogface: yes, digital's easier to compile because you can make the electronics first and then change it slightly, that doesn't work as well with analog (although is still possible) 21:22:39 a duck 21:22:42 _o< 21:22:47 Mony: no, a cow. 21:23:08 oklopol: Hm well I could give you iteration #358723849234 of "OMGWTFBBQ" 21:23:10 dogface: i'm assuming you took that literally and are finding a magnet to use on your cd 21:23:10 http://www.slinkycity.com/cartoonanimals/ASCIICows/?index.html here cows are 21:23:16 Which is a long story but it basically ends up in 2006 21:23:24 when I was bored and playing with audacity 21:23:25 i meant just composing a song :) 21:23:34 oklopol: I composed OMGWTFBBQ's revisions. :P 21:23:58 Yay, cows. 21:24:03 It's a bit ... atonal in its latest (satanic gospel metal) version, though. 21:24:11 tusho: i don't recall 21:24:18 oklopol: No, it wasn't in here. 21:24:28 brb. 21:25:06 ais523: if you remember, i was even planning to enhance your hello world into a nicer piece (no offense ofc, it's not that bad as it is) 21:25:20 I don't remember, that's why I asked 21:25:35 and no, I rather like it as is, it sounded awful the first time but grew on me 21:25:46 songs tend to do that 21:26:28 a few times, i've composed half of a song, and filled the rest with some random crap; then later found out i cannot fill the spaces with anything but deretardations of the random stuff, because they simply belong there. 21:27:03 (deretardations = removing the obviously ugly stuff, usually my random crap sounds okay) 21:28:50 ais523: can you link me a mid of mp3 or something for the HW 21:29:05 ? 21:29:10 helloworld 21:29:20 I have a .ogg version, I'll paste it again 21:29:27 or I can link the mid 21:29:27 yes, thanks 21:29:33 either way is good 21:29:38 * dogface ponders how he would turn the Thue-Morse sequence into a sound 21:29:53 http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/files/fugue/src/hworld.mid 21:29:57 i could, of course, take some other simple program, and try to make it sound nice 21:30:11 I tried to make a nice-sounding hello world once 21:30:19 but in the end just used the output of my brainfuck -> fugue compiler 21:30:29 which was so nonportable I think it wouldn't have run on any computer other than mine 21:30:52 did that sound nice? 21:31:03 it worked by using VBA's SendKeys to send keystrokes to a proprietary MIDI editor, whose keyboard shortcuts I set up in advance to play nicely with my program 21:31:16 oklopol: yes, that's the output I linked and it's quite nice 21:31:19 but I didn't make it by hand 21:31:27 although probably it would have been faster than writing the compiler 21:34:10 ) If the top value on the stack is nonzero, skip back past the matching (. <<< past in what direction 21:34:27 oklopol: it's like [ and ] in Brainfuck 21:34:32 good 21:34:32 -!- MikeRiley has quit ("Leaving"). 21:34:42 but it loops all lines, not just the one you're on 21:34:49 yeah 21:34:59 figured 21:35:04 BACK 21:35:06 *back 21:35:09 it's easiest to leave a NOP in the other lines corresponding to the ( and ) 21:35:17 otherwise it's possible to get very confused very quickly 21:35:23 (my hello, world always NOPs in those situations) 21:35:47 wb tusho 21:35:58 hmm 21:36:08 you don't really need two voices for hw do ya 21:36:15 no, you don't 21:36:21 although it helps to make the program shorter 21:36:22 Hey, my Brainfuck bot does everything except for loops so far :> 21:36:43 dark_templar: how are you planning to implement loops? 21:36:45 well you can, then, use that for chords or something, and not actually use it for anything 21:36:53 dark_templar: i am assuming that you are just using nc -e 21:36:54 right? 21:37:11 Well 21:37:13 if I encounter p 21:37:13 not that unneeded tiny-modification asiekierka made 21:37:17 ah. 21:37:19 blah, if I encounter [ 21:37:23 that unneeded tiny-modification then 21:37:25 I scan for ] 21:37:36 dark_templar: Oh, you're still implementing Brainfuck. 21:37:37 ais523: but you only need like 5 operations for each character even without the other voice 21:37:37 get positions of both and push up to a stack 21:37:38 Quaint. 21:37:40 right? 21:38:03 Python fails with pop from empty stack and I can't grasp where the problem is 21:38:06 oklopol: well yes, although you need to either use a loop or several increments in order to get the letters of hello world 21:38:10 because 'H' > 9 21:38:13 dark_templar: why not just use an existing BF interpreter 21:38:22 cuz it'd be no fun. 21:38:27 ais523: right there's no multiplication 21:38:28 and use "nc -c 'bfi bot.b' irc.freenode.net 6667" 21:38:30 i suck 21:38:37 dark_templar: implementing BF takes 3 minutes, you seem to be struggling. 21:38:42 oklopol: you can do multiplication the same way as Brainfuck, that's how my hello world works 21:38:45 you've been at it for days in #esoteric-blah, after all. 21:39:14 ais523: i know, i'm an esolang programmer, i just didn't realize there isn't a multiplication operator 21:40:05 wanna give me a few pointers about how to use the two stacks, i may be missing some of the usefulness you can get from the multiple threads 21:40:57 oklopol: use the top of each stack as a temporary variable, push from one stack to the other to move the variables along an imaginary "tape" 21:41:10 it's like programming in Brainfuck except that you can read either at the pointer or at the cell after 21:41:29 -!- oerjan has joined. 21:41:30 well yeah, i get that 21:41:41 was just thinking, there's two threads 21:42:07 but i think i'll discover the usefulness of everything once i have the time to work on it, which is prolly tomorrow 21:42:10 see you then, maybe -> 21:44:18 * dogface decides he's screeble-satisfied 21:45:59 I seem to remember Glass being a wonderful language or something. 21:46:02 Found that loop-bug! Lack of one 'break'! 21:46:15 Probably has a lot to do with the name of it. 21:46:47 dogface: it's fairly interesting and powerful, but not well documented 21:46:51 If I called a language Forensic Engineering, I'd probably like it even more. 21:46:59 I think gregor likes it better that way 21:47:12 I'd like a language called (Possibly) Impending Doom 21:47:14 http://www.icaneatglass.com/ 21:47:26 2 girls 1 glass. 21:47:44 * oerjan read that as Implementing Doom for a moment 21:48:07 I read your "Implementing Doom" as "Impending Doom" for a moment. 21:49:34 Hmm. Forensic engineering is really only much fun when it happens on the Moon. 21:49:56 Forensic Mooning. 21:50:03 Forensic Mooningeering. 21:50:23 coincidentally, i just got to http://tr.froup.com/tr.pl?1410 21:50:29 "The Moon is the only celestial body to which humans have travelled and upon which humans have landed." I wonder how long I've spent thinking we've been to Mars as well. 21:50:40 dogface: Seriously? 21:51:24 you should understand that within the context of that comic, the cheese is entirely unsurprising 21:51:40 perhaps less surprising than the rocks 21:52:58 Wait, does this mean nobody has visited a celestial body since 1972? 21:53:10 or thereabouts 21:53:46 We need a new cold war. :-P 21:53:59 be careful what you wish for, etc. 21:54:17 dogface: Bit underinformed, aren't we :P 21:54:32 Yep. 21:54:41 also, the chinese will probably do it soon 21:54:54 cold war or not 21:54:56 That's what I get for reading comics where there are rovers on Venus and a permanent colony on the Moon. 21:55:35 the scifi future has been somewhat unevenly implemented 21:56:11 cyberspace is coming around fairly nicely. as nicely as you can get without true AI i guess 21:57:53 we _do_ have rovers on Mars, in case you didn't know 21:58:01 Venus has some ... problems 21:58:04 oerjan: yes, see the ICFP contest for instance 21:58:08 I knew about Mars, yes. :-) 21:58:10 although many of them got eaten by Martians 21:58:23 well, not eaten, sacrificed to their gods, but probably eaten afterwards 21:58:38 So ais523, if you win, how many %age of the winnings will go to fund ESO creating a martian base? :-P 21:58:50 probably 0, negative if I can get away with it 21:58:53 * oerjan didn't follow this years ICFP contest much 21:59:13 I qualified through the first 7 knockout rounds in both the lightning and the main competitions 21:59:50 *'s 22:00:06 martians can eat metal? 22:00:14 ais523: But how will we build a martian base now?! 22:00:18 Only antimetal. 22:00:39 antimatter is rather hot food 22:00:42 Luckily, all successful Mars landings were successful because they went through an odd wormhole, turning them into antimatter. 22:00:59 That's how they power their internal annihilation engines. 22:01:04 aha 22:01:17 Wait, I got that wrong. 22:01:55 All successful Mars landings were successful because they went through EVEN wormholes, thereby NOT turning them into antimatter, thereby making the Martians not like them. 22:02:11 if you say so 22:02:37 an even number of wormholes, i take it you mean 22:02:39 "Of 38 launches from Earth in an attempt to reach the planet, only 19 succeeded, a success rate of 50%." Do you think a probability of exactly 50% is just a coincidence? 22:03:06 An even number of odd wormholes, I guess, odd wormhole meaning a wormhole that turns stuff into antimatter. 22:05:31 well, clearly there should be any combination of P,C, and T wormholes, except that PCT may be the identity 22:05:42 -!- dark_templar has left (?). 22:05:57 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 22:05:59 *CPT 22:06:40 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CPT_symmetry 22:10:10 Hmm. A T wormhole would spew antimatter. A C wormhole would change the charge of everything going through it, which, in practice, probably means it would spew antimatter. A P wormhole would just mirror everything. 22:10:42 C spews antimatter, is what i thought 22:10:48 T reverses time 22:13:04 Isn't it hypothesized or something that antimatter is equivalent to matter going through time in reverse? 22:14:34 i'm vague on this, although i thought that was part of the whole CPT thing 22:17:37 . 22:18:14 -!- psygnisfive has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 22:18:31 -!- psygnisfive has joined. 22:19:26 the article on T-symmetry has a relevant paragraph 22:19:47 "because due to the conservation of the CPT symmetry, the effect of time reversal is to rename particles as antiparticles and vice versa" 22:42:32 -!- Mony has quit ("À vaincre sans péril on triomphe sans gloire..."). 22:45:33 -!- ais523_ has joined. 22:52:21 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 22:53:58 -!- asiekierka has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 22:59:06 -!- Judofyr has joined. 23:04:58 -!- ais523_ has changed nick to ais523. 23:24:23 # + - ascending fourth or tritone 23:24:24 # - - descending fourth or tritone 23:24:29 ais523: explain? 23:24:38 a tritone is exactly half an octave 23:24:44 from C to F# 23:24:45 err yeah i know that 23:24:46 i mean 23:24:47 or the same interval 23:24:54 how can they both be tritone? 23:25:02 tritone upwards, tritone downwards 23:25:06 e.g. C then F# is + 23:25:09 F# then C is - 23:25:14 and C F# C is +- 23:25:18 right! 23:25:19 okay 23:25:20 (if the C is lower than the F#) 23:25:23 i was thinking 23:25:33 ascending was a term for sharp :P 23:25:33 intervals of an octave or more are NOPs 23:25:57 or a seventh 23:27:08 well 23:27:18 actually i read the descriptions completely wrong 23:27:45 just assumed they went 0 1 2 3 4 5 6, as the first was unison, and last was sixth 23:27:55 i'm a bit too tired i think 23:28:23 btw 23:28:43 your examples on ascending and descending tritones are a bit... useless :D 23:29:19 yes, that's why I put the note at the end 23:29:22 when I realised my mistake 23:29:29 oh, right 23:29:40 sorry, i seem to be unable to think atm 23:29:56 or, well, read 23:39:03 -!- ais523 has quit ("(1) DO COME FROM ".2~.2"~#1 WHILE :1 <- "'?.1$.2'~'"':1/.1$.2'~#0"$#65535'"$"'"'&.1$.2'~'#0$#65535'"$#0'~#32767$#1""). 23:48:59 llalaaalala 23:49:53 psygnisfive i have definitive proof that i am not a girl 23:49:59 DEFINITIVE 23:50:05 a picture of your girlcock? 23:50:08 your boyclit? 23:50:09 ... 23:50:10 no. 23:50:15 then its not definitive, is it/ 23:50:41 tusho, i believe you're a boy, you know this. 23:50:59 yes, but AnMaster doesn't 23:50:59 :-P 23:51:03 -!- nice has joined. 23:51:07 ok 23:51:11 well show me this definitive proof 23:51:24 -!- nice has changed nick to nice_ka. 23:51:54 it's just a photo of me that doesn't look female :P 23:52:00 ok 23:52:01 two photos, actually, this delay is me deciding which one is less hideously ugly 23:52:04 do show tusho 23:52:04 (i was very tired when i took them.) 23:52:13 show me both of them. 23:52:31 no 23:52:31 >:( 23:52:34 why not? 23:52:38 although theoretically, you could URL hack to find the other one 23:52:43 but don't. because it's even more ugly 23:52:50 because I was very tired 23:52:55 so? 23:52:56 http://tentaclerapture.com/lulz/photo2.jpg 23:53:11 you still look like a girl but ok. 23:53:16 no i don't. 23:53:16 :( 23:53:45 i dont like your smile. or your septum. 23:53:52 but you have those double incisors which is always cute. 23:54:05 oh shut up 23:54:15 ::rape:: 23:54:19 ow 23:55:08 psygnisfive why are you using gnome-vfs to download that 23:55:19 what? 23:55:25 i have the log entries to prove it 23:55:27 i used safari, manchild. 23:55:30 :P 23:55:35 hmmm 23:55:38 ok, someone else is doing that then 23:55:39 girlboything! 23:55:44 whoever did that, that's creepy :P 23:55:51 whats gnome-vfs? 23:56:06 psygnisfive: the gnome component that lets it treat http:// and ftp:// and such as filesystems 23:56:15 o.o; 23:56:24 gnome virtual file syste,? 23:56:27 yes 23:56:30 ah. 23:56:31 psygnisfive: so that ftp://foo.com/ would, e.g. work in a file browser 23:56:33 speaking of virtual things 23:56:34 or anything else that consumes files 23:56:36 basically like a kpart 23:56:44 virtual memory is funky 23:56:44 also, lol, you navigated to the root of tentaclerapture.com 23:57:03 ::tentacle rapes you:: 23:57:25 that would be funny if the domain wasn't explicitly picked as that pun 23:57:49 i want to be tentacle raped :( 23:58:33 just wait for the rapture, then 23:58:43 the... TENTACLE RAPTURE! 23:58:53 tada. 23:58:59 originally we wanted velociraptu.re 23:59:04 but you have to be a citizen of Reunion for that 23:59:16 you could always do 23:59:24 velocitap.tu/re 23:59:36 or some suitable mangling thereof 23:59:44 velo.cirap.tu/re 23:59:45 well yea, but that's kind of ugly 23:59:52 it's easier to type foo.bar 23:59:56 than add some slashes and shit to it 23:59:57 so? 23:59:59 that's just strained