< 1221264059 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : body { font-size:82%; } < 1221264059 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : what percent is best for acheiving 13px? < 1221264060 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe... < 1221264061 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13px! < 1221264102 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13px isn't a percentage. < 1221264104 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many feet in a kilogram? < 1221264138 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan : Use normalised natural units. < 1221264144 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and who tossed all those rape seeds around here? < 1221264152 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Augur? < 1221264178 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see him in the channel < 1221264198 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: everybody who helped write that story < 1221264198 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1221264234 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse to use anything but 100% virgin oil, so there! < 1221264249 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :virgin rape oil? < 1221264252 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On my naked body? < 1221264261 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes you need oil to rape a virgin < 1221264262 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's rape, it's not virgin you fool < 1221264265 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :virgin rape oil sounds awesome < 1221264269 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, it's oil to use for rape < 1221264271 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :made out of virgins < 1221264287 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer baby oil for that < 1221264296 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arousing < 1221264301 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need superior lubrication when raping a virgin < 1221264301 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Used on babies? < 1221264312 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially a baby. < 1221264319 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're tight as hell! < 1221264319 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1221264320 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :made of babies < 1221264321 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1221264328 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :made of babies, for babies! < 1221264347 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not #hot, ok < 1221264355 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please direct further hotness to #hot < 1221264360 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!optbot < 1221264361 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: *gonna do < 1221264366 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1221264367 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | pbos[-i] ? :S < 1221264372 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1221264373 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | {(Nil)[(iter),]} < 1221264373 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no one in #hot < 1221264376 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1221264377 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | 1093 chars :/ < 1221264379 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where will I discuss infant rape? < 1221264382 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1221264385 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, rape < 1221264386 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: doesn't befunge have a stackie? < 1221264390 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh < 1221264393 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds sexy < 1221264397 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it? < 1221264455 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come let me show you my big stack < 1221264472 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pops oerjan's stack < 1221264515 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't push your luck < 1221264535 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw. < 1221264559 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want me to bully your automaton around, wink wink? < 1221264578 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric is just 1093 chars < 1221264598 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't talk much round these parts. < 1221264614 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, it holds on a floppy disk! < 1221264631 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho@rutian:~/optbot$ du -h < 1221264631 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :44M . < 1221264632 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Or if you took four arguments and wanted to return a bit-array of the first two or-ed together with the second two, you could do something like: < 1221264633 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :44mb of logs < 1221264634 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say it holds on a sumerian clay tablet < 1221264637 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I'm confusing kB with MB < 1221264637 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it still holds < 1221264660 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, you might need a few < 1221264666 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless it's a big tablet < 1221264682 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: you'd need around 44 floppies < 1221264702 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot of floppy dicks < 1221264714 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 i say < 1221264792 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ok, true < 1221264822 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the answer! < 1221264831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: around 31, actually < 1221264835 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just calculated < 1221264847 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blasphemy! < 1221265810 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i assume you guys see no flaws in any of the official magic plane theory...not even the pentagon, the flight that aws shot down, the fireproof passports surviving the collapse, the teleporting hijackers that are STILL ALIVE, the connections between the bushes and the bin ladens, or who built the buildings or who owned the buildings and got insurance, or how wtc7 was bomb proof, or who did the put options on the airlines...selective memories < 1221265813 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he never gives up < 1221265837 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wat < 1221265843 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is that? < 1221265846 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#defocus < 1221266288 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So tusho < 1221266288 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is that shit < 1221266297 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1221266298 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why do people already threatens me with k-lining. < 1221266344 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, I quoted nicho some #defocus policy to politely inform him that he was wrong on a certain issue, and got "Fuck off and die." < 1221266356 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :His replies thereafter (in response to "Uh? What did I do?") escalated to, and I quote, < 1221266363 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"JUST GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME, YOU STALKING HALF WIT PRICK!" < 1221266371 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh IRC, what mental disabilities don't you have? < 1221266408 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1221266558 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck that shit < 1221266565 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's boring and everyone bitch. < 1221269269 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1221269944 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r01jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1221270169 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1221270346 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there some brainfuck interpreter that outputs graphics. < 1221270347 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1221273858 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$your_favorite_brainfuck_interpreter | pnmtopng > output.png < 1221275118 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221275283 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1221275676 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1221275829 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1221277538 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Whynot? < 1221278809 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1221278809 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Since I'm on DVD 36 < 1221280654 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1221280655 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | i mean if i did !glass {A}{S}{M[m]}, my interpretor should no longer have them? < 1221280665 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot ! < 1221280666 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CO2Games: that was more of a "why the fuck did he scream" question mark < 1221280675 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1221280675 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | except other symbols point to True would still be pointing to True. < 1221280687 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1221280688 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | aaaaah :P < 1221280706 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh there < 1221282356 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION watches software compile across multiple platforms simultaneously >8-D < 1221282364 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the amazoing power of Qemu. < 1221291362 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waves < 1221292799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1221292800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1221298137 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'lo < 1221298145 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah crap two massive gaps < 1221299138 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Never deal in upside-down A? < 1221302243 0 :oklobol!i=oko@a91-156-21-91.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221303092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morning < 1221303474 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :örn. < 1221305514 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Jesus loves you" < 1221306058 0 :oklopol!i=oko@a91-156-21-91.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221306058 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221308432 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.85.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221311296 0 :Corun!n=Corun@halls-129-31-82-181.hor.ic.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1221311477 0 :Slereah_!n=x@ANantes-252-1-45-198.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221312236 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1221313292 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-45-198.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221313293 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221314020 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1221316010 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1221317420 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how's that cfunge release doing < 1221318834 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: hasn't been voted in by the Cfunge Development Committee yet < 1221318851 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has a critical unoptimized part in the ROMA fingerprint, apparently < 1221319019 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, I'll just use the latest bzr < 1221319025 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably what the release would be anyway < 1221319096 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no, the bzr is unsupported by the Cfunge Community < 1221319098 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the way the changelog is full of stuff like "changed x (mycology was wrong)" < 1221319102 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not even by phone support < 1221319592 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: cfunge gives compile warnings, http://rafb.net/p/z3u0EI65.html < 1221319617 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But can it give me love? < 1221319650 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, it's too quick < 1221319741 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oh no! removing those warnings will slow it down by 1ms?! < 1221319746 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what will the Committee do? < 1221319819 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be one millisecond late for lunch >:| < 1221320412 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221320413 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221320738 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | maybe they will add ads in 2006? ;) < 1221321530 0 :oklobol!i=oko@a91-156-21-91.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221321623 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221322690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, sorry had computer problems today < 1221322701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one computer emitted a high whining noise < 1221322713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turned out to be harddrive and not a fan < 1221322732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, GCC version? < 1221322739 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the paste... < 1221322755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hrrm, and CFLAGS? < 1221322764 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none < 1221322769 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I know of at least < 1221322782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ones in genx.c are known and harmless < 1221322787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as not in code I wrote < 1221322806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other ones seem to be saying that that gcc version does not support inlining some stuff < 1221322809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so also harmless < 1221322825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for "cannot optimise possibly infinite loops" it is again GCC saying it can't do something, but harmless < 1221322841 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize it's harmless, I just figured you might want to know about them < 1221322893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well gcc 4.1.2 and gcc 4.3.2 don't give those. 4.1.2 doesn't know about the missing inline type, and in 4.3.x it isn't missing any more < 1221322918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for infinite loop, 4.3.x doesn't mention that, so I guess detection algorithm may have changed < 1221322942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, however now that I found the broken part in that computer I plan to make a release < 1221322982 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it identical to the latest Bzr barring the version number? < 1221322989 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1221323042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes it is < 1221323049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and a comment too < 1221323052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1221323083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :identical to r412 (anmaster AT envbot.org-20080913152316-yrabw4idfpkq0m7g) < 1221323110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, 412 fixed FING to new spec iirc < 1221323182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :release will be 0.3.2 < 1221323352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently test building in various configurations < 1221323547 0 :Ilari!n=user@a88-112-51-143.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221324023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :released < 1221324383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ^ < 1221325557 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221325580 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-45-198.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221329416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pokes tusho  < 1221331306 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1221332313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, how does the updating go? < 1221332340 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a bug in my build tool and have been fixing that for the past two hours or so < 1221332367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ouch, your page generator build tool or? < 1221332399 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically all that's left in the update is to see that the table is generated correctly, write some stuff about new (and some old) interpreters and a changelog < 1221332406 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, my generic make-replacement < 1221332469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, really? < 1221332476 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, really :-P < 1221332486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh so it wasn't sarcasm? < 1221332492 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it wasn't < 1221332512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case: 1) what is it called 2) link? < 1221332522 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not released < 1221332553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, how is it better than make? < 1221332648 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly, it's portable (there are 100 different make formats and many rely on Posix-only shell features and such) and more powerful (or at least, more power for a given amount of complexity) < 1221332680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, why not release it < 1221332704 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should take a weekend off at some point to polish it up a bit to a usable state and then release it < 1221332717 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :documentation is somewhat sparse and it has bugs like the one I just found :-P < 1221332727 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good not-morning. < 1221332734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :example of syntax? < 1221332744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, good early evening < 1221332745 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a Haskell library < 1221332796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, does it work for any language or does it have dependency extracting support for a few languages < 1221332812 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like make, no language-specific support < 1221332824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1221332913 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want to look I can give you the file I use for building my homepage < 1221332920 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but since it's Haskell you might not want to :-P < 1221332944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so the syntax of these make files are haskellish? < 1221332957 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not "haskellish", they are Haskell code. < 1221332967 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iki.fi/deewiant/Adjutant.hs < 1221332969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1221332981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adjutant? < 1221333007 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea if that means the same in Finnish as in Swedish < 1221333008 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's a bit of a pun on the tool's name which is Coadjute :-) < 1221333015 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's english < 1221333019 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably means the same in swedish < 1221333031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coadjute? < 1221333037 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it fits in 8.3 which is why I chose it :-P < 1221333046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about 8.3 these days? < 1221333054 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to < 1221333058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1221333072 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's early afternoon here, but anyways... < 1221333083 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good indeterminate time of the day to you, as well. < 1221333100 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"And I invented doors, no joke!" < 1221333168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1221335015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, tell me when it is updated < 1221335023 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan to < 1221335060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope it happens before 23:00 CEST < 1221335073 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one can always hope < 1221335137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, the link to the task at http://users.tkk.fi/~mniemenm/misc-projects.html is dead < 1221335179 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, they don't keep old exercises :-/ < 1221335642 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: http://users.tkk.fi/~mniemenm/Adjutant.hs <- I am pretty sure this would be one page of code with scons < 1221335669 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it was well over 3 < 1221335673 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which was my main motivation for it < 1221335706 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, it took waaay too long to run until I found an obscure hack to prevent SCons from scanning the path for executables every time it's run < 1221335938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it scans them for executables without caching? < 1221335945 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidently < 1221335953 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case, doing it even once annoyed me a lot < 1221335954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck even cmake caches < 1221335957 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I don't need any of them < 1221335962 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it did build a database < 1221335968 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh a database? why? < 1221335974 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much bigger than Coadjute's (which isn't even compressed) < 1221335986 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for MD5/other hashes, I think < 1221335987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :database of the binaries? < 1221335990 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was binary < 1221335993 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I don't know < 1221335995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1221336000 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coadjute's is plaintext and much smaller < 1221336015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would it need a database? < 1221336019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make doesn't use any database < 1221336023 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the MD5 hashes < 1221336025 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make uses timestamps < 1221336029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes and? < 1221336032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO that is sane < 1221336042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time stamps change when you edit files < 1221336051 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also change when you don't make changes < 1221336062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like? < 1221336069 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like "touch foo" < 1221336087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but why would you go around touching files in your build tree? < 1221336088 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a realistic scenario: you make a change, save, undo it, save again < 1221336094 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see above < 1221336128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure, but that will rebuild one file + linking < 1221336136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it is an header, agreed < 1221336140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't happen often < 1221336151 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can happen that the build time is really long < 1221336158 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in big projects, I hear the linking time is the main overhead < 1221336160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I normally use revert in such cases < 1221336167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which does revert time stamp < 1221336179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in hg/svn/bzr/whatever revert < 1221336181 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :others might not < 1221336183 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't, for instance < 1221336200 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that might go too far back < 1221336218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, how many revisions are there in the ccbi 1 repo? < 1221336228 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less than 100 I think < 1221336235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you don't commit often then or? < 1221336238 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, tip is 94 < 1221336251 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I tend to make too big commits :-/ < 1221336255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you implement *more* fingerprints, more complex ones, minifunge and so on < 1221336259 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, it only starts from 1.0.4 < 1221336266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfunge: 414 is HEAD < 1221336267 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when minifunge + most fingerprints were already done < 1221336286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is probably more, since I used feature branches for some things < 1221336297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they get merged into a "merge" commit in mainline < 1221336364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I tend to make commits after implementing one fingerprint, or one bug fixed < 1221336366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1221336400 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as do I < 1221336419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why didn't you use VCS when you began? < 1221336444 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably didn't know much about them, or just felt it wasn't necessary < 1221336446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :revision 1 in cfunge wasn't even anything more than a main file and a build system < 1221336468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :around revision 6 I think it could run befunge93 < 1221336471 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my revision 1 is usually something that does what is intended < 1221336480 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for CCBI it would have been full befunge-98 conformance < 1221336483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait, it could *load files* at revision 6 < 1221336550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by revision 13 it could run factorial.b93 from catseye < 1221336560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21 I implemented [ and ] from 98 < 1221336608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 30 it got to end of 98 part of mycology according to log message, though with some bad < 1221336643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by 34 or so I had a infinite funge space using a hash library instead of simply a large fixed one < 1221336694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :50 was NULL I see < 1221336775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, btw, do you have any clue what a file ending in .wps is? < 1221336789 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MS works < 1221336795 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely < 1221336795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1221336805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking word perfect possibly < 1221336905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to find out how to open it, seems like openoffice doesn't like it very much < 1221336939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh wait < 1221336961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I found "WPS 2000/Office 1.0 (*.wps)" in the open dialog filter box in oowriter < 1221336962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm < 1221336966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :office 1.0? < 1221336985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet that doesn't manage to open this file < 1221336990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just garbage < 1221337012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and yes, file(1) thinks it is "data") < 1221337039 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect converters exist < 1221337573 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file(1) isn't exactly *accurate*; after all, it's just doing a bunch of heuristics on the file to guess what type it is. < 1221337780 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, indeed, but "data" means "didn't find anything relevant" < 1221337787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it means nothing matched < 1221337796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot of the time file is useful < 1221338557 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1221339885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does scheme differ from lisp? Or is it just a dialect of lisp? < 1221339970 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a dialect, sure, but also different < 1221339994 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no distinction betwen variables and functions < 1221340021 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proper lexical scoping, which the first lisps didn't have < 1221340027 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1221340030 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221340030 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's minimalistic < 1221340050 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or used to be at any rate < 1221340088 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"hygienic" macros which take automatic care of naming conflicts < 1221340185 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what comes to mind on the spot < 1221340241 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :common lisp afaik is all the opposite except that i think it also has lexical scoping nowadays < 1221340296 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly optional, there's some function vs. lambda stuff in that iirc) < 1221340342 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and emacs lisp still has dynamic scoping i think, i know little else about it < 1221340393 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically scheme is the prettiest and most logical dialect < 1221340507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1221340517 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and i forgot continuations which scheme has < 1221340539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :continuations, I never really understood the concept < 1221340654 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never really understood why it's difficult, which probably means i cannot explain it < 1221340696 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try once < 1221340753 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1221340772 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whenever you are evaluating an sub-expression in a program, there must be some notion of what the program does when it's finished evaluating < 1221340844 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme allows you to take that notion and use it explicitly as a continuation < 1221340903 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you call the continuation function of an expression with some value, the effect is like having that expression finish evaluating with that value as its result < 1221340946 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when done from inside the expression, that becomes like an escape function, similar to return or break in C < 1221341092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the really weird case is when done from outside the expression, after it has already returned. you can do this in scheme because a continuation can be saved away in a variable like any other value < 1221341124 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the effect of that is somewhat like rewinding the program and returning _again_, with the new value < 1221341259 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the end. < 1221341317 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221341329 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-45-198.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221341343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1221341352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(was afk, due to phone call) < 1221341357 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were some ambiguities in that. when i say "finished" or "return" i mean the sub-expression < 1221341371 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the whole program < 1221341451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so basically scheme doesn't allow you to do a normal return from a function? it kind of calls the original code with a new variable bound? < 1221341465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that what you are saying < 1221341475 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no < 1221341484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" when you call the continuation function of an expression with some value, the effect is like having that expression finish evaluating with that value as its result" < 1221341490 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" when done from inside the expression, that becomes like an escape function, similar to return or break in C" < 1221341502 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't use any continuation functions explicitly, things return normally < 1221341510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for outside it is like longjmp? < 1221341520 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorta < 1221341536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except you can't longjmp into a function you already returned from < 1221341539 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it can be implemented with longjmp < 1221341546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1221341546 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1221341566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well it is the classical C answer on tricky question: < 1221341570 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :undefined behaviour < 1221341590 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1221341798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, does scheme have any undefined behaviour? < 1221341800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1221341820 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think functional languages suffer from that the way imperative ones do < 1221341824 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i think so < 1221341831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh really? details < 1221341832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1221341897 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least things you are not supposed to do if you want to be sure that the program runs < 1221341939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1221341956 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing that comes to mind: scheme has no reserved words so you can redefine any name. also things are mutually recursive and don't have to be defined before being referred to < 1221342046 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall that it said somewhere you shouldn't expect consistent behavior if you redefine the names using themselves < 1221342066 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like using (define (define ...) ...) anywhere < 1221342126 0 :LinuS!n=LinuS@net-93-146-79-242.t2.dsl.vodafone.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1221342182 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mind you i haven't really looked at scheme for years < 1221342209 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imagine parenthesises up your ass, forever. < 1221342339 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | you can run all those elsolangs locally < 1221342344 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221342355 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221342405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, I disagree with that topic, you can't run all locally, IRP won't work locally < 1221342406 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: and omits the Scabb Island theme < 1221342436 0 :LinuS!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Puzzi. Sì, parlo proprio con te. Puzzi." < 1221342496 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: i am pretty sure you could run IRP with a Scabb Island theme < 1221342497 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can I use/paraphrase/steal your suggested rules (with due credit) < 1221342504 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1221342532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you forgot to mention optbot in that, so it won't reply :/ < 1221342533 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well windows need some kernel mode device drivers, IDE controller, or keyboard for example < 1221342544 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did not forget < 1221342562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, don't all OS need some kernel level drivers for such things? < 1221342562 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: on my comp, but it's partly outdated and too long for me to quickly fix it now < 1221342568 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i merely felt the topic had been exhausted < 1221342595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, that made no sense < 1221342596 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: !bf < 1221342610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, what bot is that command for? < 1221342611 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: But you have to have a route to one person in the chat room. < 1221342615 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ++++++. < 1221342625 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one who isn't here < 1221342626 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, none currently in here I think < 1221342632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++. < 1221342633 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1221342637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would wortk though < 1221342644 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++. < 1221342648 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO SOMETHING < 1221342653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot uses ^ not ! < 1221342653 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well it's not bad. although i guess that one < 1221342653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1221342661 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what one? < 1221342661 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: there's probably an easier way < 1221342667 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, destroy him! < 1221342668 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: what language are you using? < 1221342669 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure there always is fungot < 1221342670 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: get a newer version of it? in firefox it just works < 1221342695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what is this "it"/"that" you keep referring to < 1221342696 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: whatever i have to < 1221342718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, that almost sounds like a threat, not sure why < 1221342733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it decided to stop answering.... < 1221342739 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, fungot < 1221342739 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: When did I tell you I wasn't a woman? < 1221342746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrm < 1221342758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hm... < 1221342784 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you killed fungot! you bastards! < 1221342785 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why do you call it with < 1221342794 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the < 1221342813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it is a optbot fungot cycle protection thingy < 1221342813 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that is because otherwise i can't keep track of < 1221342814 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: meow < 1221342828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stops talking to the same person after a number of lines < 1221342883 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1221342996 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just do this < 1221343000 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo optbot < 1221343001 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot optbot < 1221343001 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: hm < 1221343001 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: our @ISA to avoid the strictness check < 1221343002 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yeah could be a reference to that of the page < 1221343003 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: there were 3 streams, square, saw and sine, which one you use depending on the value in current cell when calling ',' < 1221343004 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: maybe there's an fnord persistent operating system being written in binary < 1221343005 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 42! < 1221343005 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: possibly specific schemes could have this thing called guaifenesin, it's a weird error < 1221343006 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: so it isn't even consistent! < 1221343008 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: hiya evoli! don't fall into the middle < 1221343009 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I remember hunting typedefs in large globs of C codes and shuddering. < 1221343057 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : optbot: i am pretty sure you could run IRP with a Scabb Island theme < 1221343058 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: Or you can use biscuit trucks. < 1221343061 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scabb island is a place in monkey island < 1221343062 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1221343066 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :monkey island 2 < 1221343074 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, i googled < 1221344442 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6+ < 1221344503 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERROR - Syntax error in expression (unexpected end of input) < 1221344881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not really < 1221344884 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is 0 6 + < 1221344900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since a pop from empty stack in befunge pops 0 < 1221344909 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my haskell interpreter disagrees < 1221344913 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: if you didn't check your e-mail yet: Mycology comparison is up < 1221344915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it isn't haskell < 1221344923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, thanks, going to bed now < 1221344925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1221344925 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that, I'm off to bed < 1221344931 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one said it was befunge either < 1221344932 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o/ < 1221344946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, wait! < 1221344966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, cfunge isn't mentioned in the list of interpreters under "Interpreters tested"? < 1221344972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it is < 1221344974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see it now < 1221344976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1221344995 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hands AnMaster a white cane < 1221345021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, "few BADs it currently gets" <-- ?? I tested with version as of yesterday no BAD < 1221345078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, http://users.tkk.fi/~mniemenm/befunge/mycology-output/fp-time/cfunge.txt <-- where is the BAD there, it is listed as 1 bad, -4 UNDEF... something is clearly wrong... < 1221345089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since there is 1 good, and 4 undef < 1221345096 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, correct that bug please < 1221345106 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I blame your build scripts < 1221345119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, as for indv, that is what the specs *says* < 1221345140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, or rather it was undefined I think when I implemented it < 1221345149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see no reason to change it, since both are valid < 1221345248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, as for: http://users.tkk.fi/~mniemenm/befunge/mycology-output/input_fp-strn/cfunge.txt, unable to reproduce < 1221345344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loaded STRN: testing I. Please input: to be or not to be < 1221345345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNDEF: got "to be or not to be" < 1221345346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, wtf < 1221345351 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how the heck does it reflect < 1221345512 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221345822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION sent off a mail to Deewiant now < 1221345824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1221345904 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and really bad style not releasing those updates to mycology before... < 1221345910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really pisses me off < 1221346036 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lost the game < 1221346042 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ooh, now you're AANGRY < 1221346047 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he should be careful < 1221346050 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you might turn into the incredible hulk < 1221346097 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The incredible sulk, was somewhere. < 1221346125 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 hours of moving stuff, phew. Not fun at all. I think I'll just stay here for the next several years. < 1221346135 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221347710 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221347715 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221347906 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What do you think of your new home? < 1221347907 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i never needed it. i've brainwashed everyone else on scheme that uses bytecode? < 1221347934 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Wait, what? < 1221347935 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: for one, i have let-opt.scm, fnord, fnord < 1221348355 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i hope you have enough straightjackets < 1221348628 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'll temporarily shut down the box fungot's running on. Maybe I'll migrate it to the virtual server at some point or something. We've got our beds in the living room (because the bedroom is full of stuff to be sorted), and ever since I added two more hard drives it's been making this weird resonating hum that is amplitude-modulated at ~0.5 Hz frequency. < 1221348628 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: we want...information! < 1221348650 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You are not a collective, and really, it's just like sleeping for a bit to you. I think. < 1221348651 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i see it. i wrote some horribly lame stories in wp a decade or so) < 1221348677 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"To sleep, perchance to dream." < 1221348692 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you killed fungot! you bastard! < 1221348730 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :( < 1221348735 0 :Corun!n=Corun@88-108-230-31.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1221348750 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fishiiiies < 1221348786 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'll put fungot on rutian! < 1221348806 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221348823 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just in a suspended animation for a moment, but if you want to run a copy, go right ahead. I'll start that on momus.zem.fi later. I just need them sleeps, and the box it was running on is less than a metre away from the head-side of the bed. < 1221348842 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wut are the links again < 1221348870 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hum, I'm not sure I have the most current version anywhere. < 1221348897 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zem.fi/~fis/fungot.b98, fungot-load-freenode.b98, but the nonsense generator stuff was messier. < 1221348922 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1221348922 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1221348923 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, that link seems to not work. < 1221348970 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, I had added .txt to those filenames for easier plain-text viewing. < 1221348995 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1221349581 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)