< 1221352073 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1221353300 0 :CO2Games!n=CO2Games@75-173-244-153.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221353705 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1221353930 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221355831 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"And I invented doors, no joke!" < 1221356069 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"- nbs-irc 2.37 - www.nbs-irc.net -" < 1221356084 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-46-249.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221358834 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221363939 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | at least, one file visible to the compilation < 1221366536 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221368922 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1221369893 0 :CO2Games!n=CO2Games@75-173-245-211.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221373232 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1221379199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1221379200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1221380585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, there? < 1221381154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, as soon as you wake up, please check your mail < 1221381862 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-91-43.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221385545 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | When (if) I get my Ph.D, I'll change my nickname to DrGregor :P < 1221386954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, was it you who said that thing in topic now? < 1221387603 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: morning < 1221387668 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) that's your problem. if all other interpreters as well as the latest standard say that you should do X and you still want to do Y, that's fine, but now that instruction is useless. < 1221387688 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) the BAD comes from what's at the bottom of the file: F is off by one. < 1221387714 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) echo "10xyzhhTesting, testing." | cfunge mycouser.b98 < 1221387736 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, that last may be incorrect < 1221387753 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) echo "10xyz19-hhTesting, testing." | cfunge mycouser.b98 < 1221387830 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for updating Mycology, what do you want me to do? Almost every time I tested a new interpreter I ran into a bug in Mycology. It would have taken me until christmas to update the comparison if I had started now and released iteratively. < 1221387846 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case I think that you definitely should say "mycology 2008-xx-yy" conforming < 1221387869 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that is of course the case, you don't know what's up in the latest versions and the older versions are probably incorrect in some way. < 1221387923 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and cfunge is under "Interpreters tested", you must have missed it < 1221388589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it doesn't say if it is 0 or 1 based in the specs for TIME < 1221388643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as you know I'm against changing a fingerprint unless it is very new < 1221388648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why I accepted the FING change < 1221388651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it was so new < 1221388680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so indv basically stors the vector vertically now instead of horizontally? < 1221388709 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1221388733 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that when W pushes it pushes x then y, and when V pops it pops y then x < 1221388738 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :originally, V popped x then y < 1221388743 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which meant that the vector was flipped < 1221388757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so is the F in TIME 1 or 0 indexed? < 1221388777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specs doesn't say < 1221388777 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the docs say "Day since First of year" < 1221388782 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is of course 0 for the first day of the yeas < 1221388785 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/s/r/ < 1221388791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok hm < 1221388795 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s:s/:s$/: < 1221388872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, STRN does indeed not use the buffer the rest of the interpreter use < 1221388876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'd say that is undefined < 1221388891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it reflected due to EOF < 1221388942 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would say it most certainly is not undefined < 1221388950 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, then where is it defined? < 1221388961 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use fgets() followed by fgetc() would you expect that they read from different places? < 1221388970 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's common sense < 1221389219 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Common sense", isn't that like a swearword around here? < 1221389243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, indeed < 1221389494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, STRN and TIME are fixed. In INDV I argue it is an UNDEF < 1221389520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while I agree the other order would be more logical, this is still an undef < 1221389524 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argue all you want, it's a one-line change and doing it wrong is just belligerency < 1221389534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, you know that once a RFC is published it is never changed? < 1221389548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the same reasons fingerprints should never be changed < 1221389553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly the same reason < 1221389587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, so you suggest RFCs should be updated randomly? < 1221389588 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know that 10000 other things are just as UNDEF? the only reason that one was made separate is because I wasn't 100% sure whether it was intentional or not < 1221389590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that right? < 1221389599 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said anything about RFCs? < 1221389616 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact that the original Mycology called it an UNDEF was a BUG < 1221389628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, both RFCs and fingerprint specs are immutable once published < 1221389639 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where does it say that < 1221389646 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an UNDEF if ever I've seen one :-P < 1221389657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, common sense < 1221389666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221389679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because once you change stuff, retconn them, stuff are going to get messy < 1221389680 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since we don't have versioning I think it makes very much sense to correct obvious mistakes < 1221389709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, since we don't have versioning I think it makes sense to have immutable fingerprints, possible with a separate errata < 1221389765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh and I found a new befunge98 for you to test on GreaseMonkey's website < 1221389766 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://greasemonkey.nonlogic.org/befunge98-r002.zip < 1221389776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I very much suspect it is early early alpha < 1221389788 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty much abandoned < 1221389793 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if there's a mistake which implies that the whole fingerprint is useless (like FNGR) you suggest it should remain like that forever, taking up one slice of the fingerprint space for no good at all? < 1221389852 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes, I agree there are downsides to that, but the other ones are worse < 1221389853 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1221389856 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :// x - Absolute Delta (wtf?!) < 1221389865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1221389870 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the source of that < 1221389875 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not worth my time, sorry :-P < 1221389903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well < 1221389925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, but if you agree it is an UNDEF then I'm happy to change it < 1221389939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fight for the rights of the UNDEF! < 1221389959 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I maintain that since practically all Funge programmers are taking part in this very discussion, changing fingerprints is fine as long as they're notified < 1221389975 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, it's not UNDEF. < 1221389987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well then I suggest notifying at least a week before you update mycology < 1221390011 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like said, in this case that would have meant that the update you wanted so much would have taken months. < 1221390038 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to do it and so I did. If you want to make a quick release fixing the bugs and you care about it so much I can have cfunge-0.3.3 there pretty quickly. < 1221390096 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, doesn't W suffer the same problem as V in INDV then? < 1221390106 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't < 1221390113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : FungeSpaceSet(b.y, &a); < 1221390113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : FungeSpaceSet(b.x, VectorCreateRef(a.x+1, a.y)); < 1221390115 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from my W < 1221390125 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not the relevant part < 1221390133 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the relevant part is where you pop stuff from the stack < 1221390133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a = GetSecondVector(ip); < 1221390136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1221390164 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case the INDV tests need to be somewhat rewritten for the new storage offset stuff < 1221390213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, the "bugs" are fixed in current cfunge bzr head, but I make at most one release / week, not "another day another release", there are limits to the "release early, release often" < 1221390225 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1221390232 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe "another hour, another release" next? < 1221390250 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not, what does it matter? < 1221390323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that freshmeat have a policy against that, and I make release announcements, same about sf.net, iirc they got some policy too < 1221390402 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks to have to work with others doesn't it :-P < 1221390419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm? < 1221390470 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's part of the reason I prefer to host everything myself < 1221390478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, anyway I concentrate development on efunge currently, though I have some plans for cfunge too < 1221390484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mainly rewritten TURT < 1221390498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for both I currently have limited time < 1221390517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and efunge is still 93 < 1221390585 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Jesus loves you" < 1221390591 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, why are you using -W for cfunge? < 1221390610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reporting unknown instructions *is* against the specs really < 1221390631 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you request it < 1221390638 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1221390658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, another issue, with that last rcfunge, the reported "vanity" output, can't it be disabled? < 1221390681 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.tkk.fi/~mniemenm/befunge/mycology-output/fp-file/rcfunge-mark-2.txt <-- a binary file? < 1221390873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, other odd thing, the rcfunge output for PERL is correct in the one it crash on TURT but incorrect in the case where TURT support is not compiled? < 1221390930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, also it doesn't say environment variables have to be in order anywhere, so why is that mentioned at the end of http://users.tkk.fi/~mniemenm/befunge/mycology-output/y/rcfunge-mark-2.txt < 1221391102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and http://users.tkk.fi/~mniemenm/befunge/mycology-output/input/rcfunge-mark-2.txt is a 404 < 1221391715 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, if efunge becomes a befunge98 interpreter, will you test it? since it will need special knowledge really < 1221391739 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with that I mean weird build system (emakefile, not makefile) < 1221391741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1221391860 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I can get it to work, sure < 1221391926 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, if only Windows had soft links < 1221391982 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :404s taken care of < 1221392004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and windows does, *.lnk thougj < 1221392007 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though* < 1221392014 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's just bullshit :-P < 1221392015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and no, not really, just poking fun at windows) < 1221392051 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-60-20.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221392055 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please input a character: UNDEF: got -116 'Œ' which is hopefully correct. <-- that in rcfunge looks like memory corruption to me < 1221392077 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think it clears the input buffer and then reads out of uninitialized memory, just a guess though < 1221392114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, does any test in mycology depend on a finite cell size? < 1221392128 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't < 1221392133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since efunge doesn't have that, it use bignums all the way through < 1221392184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh and I do know my STRN got an issue which you didn't detect. STRN's I mess up on UTF8 for some unknown reason, it cuts off after the first non-ascii char < 1221392203 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed the Rc/Funge consistency stuff < 1221392228 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I can't detect everything. < 1221392228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm? < 1221392235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the issue is with getline() rather than STRN... < 1221392237 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 2008-09-14 13:14:33 ( AnMaster) Deewiant, other odd thing, the rcfunge output for PERL is correct in the one it crash on TURT but incorrect in the case where TURT support is not compiled? < 1221392244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1221392247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what caused that? < 1221392270 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the files I generated stuff from said "rcfunge-mark-2:" instead of "rcfunge:\nrcfunge-mark-2:" < 1221392274 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a manual messup of mine < 1221392279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1221392297 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why it takes so long to update: so much has to be done by hand and it's fairly error prone :-/ < 1221392313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, err why does REFC say N/A for cfunge? < 1221392323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is plain wrong < 1221392339 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typo < 1221392353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't it auto generated? < 1221392378 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NA has to be written by hand of course < 1221392382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, a good way to check how much mycology actually tests would be coverage analysis < 1221392386 0 :Slereah_!n=x@ANantes-252-1-60-20.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221392390 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1221392393 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? :-P < 1221392404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in efunge the various mycology programs test all the b93 parts except two lines < 1221392416 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed that NA < 1221392416 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221392420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are swap on stack with one item, and dup on stack with one item < 1221392421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1221392436 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for binary files: can't be helped that they contain binary in the output, that's what the interpreter outputs < 1221392453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what mime type do you send them as? < 1221392464 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no clue and I can't do anything about it, not my server < 1221392473 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably autodetects them < 1221392533 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hmm, can that be done in .htaccess? < 1221392602 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I can do something about it after all < 1221392763 0 :moozilla!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221392827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, no clue < 1221392830 0 :moozilla!n=moozilla@207-118-46-249.dyn.centurytel.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221392830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use lighttpd < 1221392831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not apache < 1221393073 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe firefox still wants to "save as" regardless < 1221393105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly < 1221393136 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, whatever < 1221393198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for new build system, using two types of make < 1221393205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERL = erl -boot start_clean < 1221393205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all: < 1221393205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : $(ERL) -noshell -eval "make:all(), init:stop()." < 1221393205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clean: < 1221393205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : rm -rf *.beam *~ erl_crash.dump < 1221393210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is my entire Makefile < 1221393220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then my Emakefile is: < 1221393221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :['src/*']. < 1221393222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{'*',[warn_obsolete_guard,warn_untyped_record,warn_unused_import,warn_missing_spec]}. < 1221393228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lovely simple build system < 1221393258 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's not portable to windows because of "rm" :-) < 1221393280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well I could put that in a variable < 1221393293 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could built it still < 1221393301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just run make:all(). < 1221393302 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the user would have to edit the makefile to get it to build < 1221393304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in an erlang shell < 1221393308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, not really < 1221393317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could set the environment variables < 1221393325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to override makefile ones < 1221393339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERL = erl -boot start_clean < 1221393340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RM = rm -rf < 1221393342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about that? < 1221393362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I don't think the makefile will work out of box on windows anyway < 1221393367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since windows has werl < 1221393370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is gui stuff < 1221393407 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any case you have to mess with stuff < 1221393413 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not saying you should have to change it < 1221393418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, agreed, but that can't be avoided < 1221393428 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just part of my motivation for Coadjute < 1221393438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well it means I would need to install haskell wouldn't it? < 1221393439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221393455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERL_COMPILER_OPTIONS='[inline,native,{hipe,[o3]}]' make clean all < 1221393460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the speedy build < 1221393463 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1221393466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that really helps for life.b93 < 1221393488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know that will look cryptic to a non-erlang programmer < 1221393495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a list of atoms and tuples < 1221393511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tupels? tuples? < 1221393546 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tuples < 1221393574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1221393754 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221393891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, efunge won't have an option to print warnings for unknown instructions btw < 1221393899 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure why you would want that anyway < 1221393916 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can be handy for debugging < 1221393922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I mean for mycology < 1221393960 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like stats: might as well make them as verbose as possible (without obscuring the befunge output) < 1221393981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, compile time option then < 1221393994 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care whether you include it or not < 1221394017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, is any interpreter on the mycology page using bignums+ < 1221394020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/+/?/ < 1221394021 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1221394096 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1221395016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blergh needs to track edges now < 1221395019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ponders
< 1221396513 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.85.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221397608 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-038-011.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1221399215 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, Efunge98 is progressing nicely < 1221399224 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will take a few weeks due to time constrains currently < 1221400212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[]abcdef; of 98 are implemented so far < 1221400220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm k < 1221400221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blergh < 1221400456 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-60-20.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221400457 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221400556 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"And I invented doors, no joke!" < 1221400748 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1221400764 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.85.60 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221401198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in efunge: BAD: 0k^ executes ^ at ^ < 1221401199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1221401204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf was that one now again? < 1221401633 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't 0k^ supposed to execute ^ 0 times (that is, skip it). < 1221401648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1221401651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while 1 and such would not step over < 1221401658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in effect 1 iteration would execute it twice < 1221401673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah GOOD all the way to w now < 1221401705 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(btw if you wonder, this is not for cfunge, but another funge interpreter in another language) < 1221401755 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: we can and do read previous messages < 1221401761 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have mentioned efunge like 5 times. we are not blind. < 1221401765 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to point it out. < 1221401814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, but I assume you will prefer efunge over cfunge? < 1221401828 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'll prefer ccbi or rc/funge, probably. < 1221401838 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, but that wasn't the question < 1221401846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway cfunge is more conforming that rc/funge < 1221401848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even now < 1221401859 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have not looked at efunge. < 1221401862 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.tkk.fi/~mniemenm/befunge/mycology-comparison.html <-- yes cfunge get a few bad, all fixed today < 1221401879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, efunge is not fully 98 yet, the version that is uploaded is 93 onlty < 1221401883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only* < 1221401905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think this code is very nice: < 1221401907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate(0, _Instr, IP, Stack, _Space) -> < 1221401907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : {IP, Stack}; < 1221401907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iterate(Count, Instr, IP, Stack, Space) -> < 1221401907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : {IP2, Stack2} = processInstruction(Instr, IP, Stack, Space), < 1221401907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : iterate(Count-1, Instr, IP2, Stack2, Space). < 1221401921 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For things I would use, my ranking goes for non-vaporware stuff: RC/Funge, CCBI1, [huge gaping chasm], cfunge. < 1221401924 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not know where efunge is there. < 1221401935 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RC/Funge is above CCBI1 because it'll be more useful for socket apps etc < 1221401936 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, efunge is indeed not finished yet < 1221401938 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on fizzie's experience < 1221401945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it is partly implemented < 1221401951 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ideal situation, my ranking would be CCBI2, RC/Funge, CCBI1, [huge gaping chasm], cfunge. < 1221401955 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gets all the way to w < 1221401985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rc/funge is *less* conforming than ccbi: http://users.tkk.fi/~mniemenm/befunge/mycology-comparison.html < 1221401998 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and than cfunge < 1221402003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, can't see why you hate cfunge < 1221402015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want unreadable source code you go for rc/funge < 1221402018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :way less readable < 1221402018 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't give a flying fuck about conforming, RC/Funge is the most useful for real apps due to its array of fingerprints. < 1221402041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, cfunge implements most of the fingerprints that ccbi1 does: http://users.tkk.fi/~mniemenm/befunge/mycology-comparison.html < 1221402055 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And RC/Funge still comes out on top. < 1221402072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, with a lot of useless and badly defined fingerprints < 1221402074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed sure < 1221402083 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a lot of useful and well-defined ones, too. < 1221402093 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot runs on Rc/Funge and does it very well too. < 1221402097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which ccbi and/or cfunge implements < 1221402105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, it runs on cfunge too < 1221402109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ccbi iirc < 1221402120 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: but cfunge is a retarded piece of crap, and you already know that that's my opinion < 1221402128 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have known that is my opinion for months < 1221402129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I don't see *why* you think so < 1221402137 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: then you haven't been listening very well < 1221402143 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, just peeked at the rc/funge code, perfectly readable < 1221402153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, it is fast, I fixed my funge-space hash to have good performance < 1221402169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, not when I last looked, which was last week I looked at some fingerprint code < 1221402182 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably because you aren't very good at reading C. < 1221402190 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's regular, sane code. < 1221402225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I am, but I prefer well structured code with one indention style, K&R coding style or some slight variant of that < 1221402240 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is well structured. < 1221402253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, but you still haven't said why you hate cfunge < 1221402260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the hash library have been fixed < 1221402266 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I have, over the course of many months, in great detail. < 1221402277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, "because I didn't fix hash library" yes < 1221402279 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not condensing all of those lines into one because it would be far too much of a lossy conversion. < 1221402281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that has been done < 1221402282 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho has already explained everything, there < 1221402283 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Where the fuck did you get that idea? < 1221402286 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s no use asking him anything < 1221402291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, from you < 1221402295 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have mentioned the hash library like ONCE < 1221402296 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this goes for everything.) < 1221402298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you complained about that < 1221402314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot < 1221402317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not once < 1221402325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like 50 times < 1221402327 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i didn't, you're hallucinating < 1221402331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are < 1221402341 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know what i've said, thanks < 1221402354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, so you hate that I'm POSIX only too? well so is rc/funge < 1221402368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it even requires X < 1221402370 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't, now if you actually want to know what I said, grep tusho and cfunge in the logs. < 1221402371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike cfunge < 1221402374 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm quite busy < 1221402377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1221403004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, http://rafb.net/p/DdE9wq23.html <-- hm, I'm not sure, and yes j isn't yet implemented, but that is an interesting way to fail < 1221403438 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221403644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I still get that error with all GOOD before < 1221403645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1221403665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rafb.net/p/FLYm0g77.html < 1221403669 0 :funktio!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1221403670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any clue what could be happening? < 1221405577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah it was broken flying wrapping < 1221405599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, idea: report broken non-cardinal wrapping better < 1221405704 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken non-cardinal wrapping < 1221405712 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounds like something out of star trek < 1221406001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheh < 1221406025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought it actually means that funge-space wrapping is broken when ip doesn't move as in Befunge-93 < 1221406035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is anything byt ^v<> < 1221406039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but* < 1221406238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, Now wrapping (at warp 9) in efunge works with a non-cardinal delta index in the warp core plasma. < 1221406244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs
< 1221406252 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: eject into HYPERSPACE!! < 1221406277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey hyperspace is star wars not star trek! < 1221406305 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hyperspace is in any and all works of hacks to explain FTL < 1221406318 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like ASIMOV < 1221406344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, Star Trek got wrap instead < 1221406355 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it is a SECRET facet of the TIME CUIBE < 1221406362 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :warp is the EDUCATED LIE they tell you < 1221406363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1221406366 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to hide TRUE HYPERSPACE < 1221406369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1221406384 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes it fill the function < 1221406399 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warp space is the same < 1221406405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :allow travel between planets without changing crew all the time < 1221406412 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just "Let's give the work to another universe" < 1221406426 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the outsourcing of labor. < 1221406457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, wrap in Star Trek works by Using negative energy to compress the space-time itself, thus shortening the path you have to travel, in effect the ship travels at sub-FTL speeds < 1221406485 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank god the trekkie heard about the Alqubier propulsion to justify it! < 1221406498 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, it doesn't actually work, but it sounds moar scientific < 1221406503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1221406521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it worked it would still need a LOT more energy than can ever be contained in a ship < 1221406534 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Alqubierre propulsion is silly < 1221406541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that the name of it? < 1221406546 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's based on making up a metric for space time. < 1221406560 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Without any regard for the stress energy tensor < 1221406564 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no huge fan of Star Trek < 1221406577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just happen to have watched a lot of TNG and Voyager < 1221406587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a lot of TOS < 1221406610 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive < 1221406610 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thar < 1221406627 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NATURE'S 4 DAYS OF HARMONIOUS TIME CUBE ROTATION < 1221406637 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh you :D < 1221406648 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 * -1 = 1 IS STUPID AND EVIL < 1221406653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, oh that sounds familiar..... not *THAT* crap surely < 1221406669 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ACADEMIC IS _EVIL_ < 1221406674 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU HAVE BEEN EDUCATED *STUPID* < 1221406687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my, I seen that crap website before once < 1221406711 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: educators altere dyour mind, YOU CANNOT THINK opposite of what you were taught to think. < 1221406716 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster : Search for "Time cube" < 1221406720 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just a lot of shouting, didn't even manage to get the point what it wanted to say across < 1221406724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1221406745 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: When the Sun shines upon Earth, 2 - major Time points are created on opposite sides of Earth - known as Midday and Midnight. Where the 2 major Time forces join, synergy creates 2 new minor Time points we recognize as Sunup and Sundown. < 1221406745 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 4-equidistant Time points can be considered as Time Square imprinted upon the circle of Earth. In a single rotation of the Earth sphere, each Time corner point rotates through the other 3-corner Time points, thus creating 16 corners, 96 hours and 4-simultaneous 24 hour Days within a single rotation of Earth - equated to a Higher Order of Life Time Cube. < 1221406748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, yes and it never explained in a clear way what it meant by "time cube" iirc < 1221406764 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: YOU HAVE A CYCLOP PERSPECTIVE AND TAUGHT ANDROID MENTALITY - LOBOTOMIZED ANALYTICAL ABILITY < 1221406771 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't ask insane people to explain themselves. < 1221406782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, I guess so < 1221406796 0 :CO2Games!n=CO2Games@75-173-245-211.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221406831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"thus creating 16 corners, 96 hours and 4-simultaneous 24 hour Days within a single rotation of Earth" <-- now that makes no sense < 1221406837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that the rest do either < 1221406839 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: YOU ARE EVIL < 1221406841 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1221406842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that bit makes even less sense < 1221406842 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND EDUCATED STUPID < 1221406847 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What were you expecting. < 1221406852 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omfg timecube.com is down < 1221406853 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::((((((((((((((( < 1221406854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, nothing else < 1221406859 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GENE RAY WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU?????? < 1221406890 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: YOU HAVE KILLED THE WISEST HUMAN, YOU EVIL ACADEMIC < 1221406956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are free to go on with that silly spam, but please don't highlight me < 1221406970 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: -1 * -1= +1 is WRONG, it is academic stupidity and is evil. The educated stupid should acknowledge the natural antipodes of +1 * +1 = +1 and -1 * -1 = -1 exist as plus and minus values of opposite creation - depicted by opposite sexes and opposite hemispheres. < 1221407003 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: idea: if non-cardinal wrapping doesn't work you can end up absolutely anywhere, there's nothing I can do about it < 1221407021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah true < 1221407049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, but you could handle some common cases easily < 1221407056 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which case is that < 1221407072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, applying b93 wrapping at f98 edge size < 1221407078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is: < 1221407093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if X == MaxX -> X = MinX < 1221407107 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if X > MaxX? < 1221407107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err I mean: if X > MaxX -> X = MinX < 1221407112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what I meant < 1221407123 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the same for Y? < 1221407124 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1221407127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GENE RAY IS XENU < 1221407133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1221407139 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | not as far as I know, but CLC-INTERCAL still supports Baudot and punched cards, and maintaining compatibility as far back as possible is a running INTERCAL in-joke < 1221407150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and same for if X < MinX -> X = MaxX < 1221407155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, if you see what I mean < 1221407171 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so where does it end up in that case < 1221407185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, the basic algorithm I use for cardinal wrapping is: http://rafb.net/p/ZakhhS22.html < 1221407237 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cardinal wrapping? < 1221407253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, bouncing between u and o like this: http://rafb.net/p/FLYm0g77.html < 1221407277 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what would help is the next cell it hits, space included < 1221407284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, Befunge way of saying, "moving north/south/west/east" and not diagonally < 1221407295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm... a sec < 1221407580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, http://rafb.net/p/kOS6BT80.html < 1221407582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope that helps < 1221407872 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"And I invented doors, no joke!" < 1221407971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blergh at stack-stacks < 1221407975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really blergh < 1221408027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot about them when planning the design < 1221408027 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A STACK OF STACKS < 1221408037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because I don't use them a lot myself when coding funge < 1221408408 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: uploaded a Mycology which should catch that case now < 1221408479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fixed: test for k with a negative count was expecting pre–2008–07–26 k behaviour." <-- what exactly would that mean? < 1221408497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, k with negative reflect is what I implement iirc, and it is an UNDEF < 1221408508 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and? < 1221408525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how would it expect pre–2008–07–26? < 1221408546 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance in that when it says "pops more than the absolute value of the count" it would be off by one < 1221408553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1221408559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never seen it say that < 1221408589 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: can/will you test that noncardinal wrapping again? < 1221408603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, you forgot one case: pushes "You are an UNDEF jerk, and be happy this isn't DeathStation 9000" on stack and reflects < 1221408606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs
< 1221408610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no I don't) < 1221408623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, sure in a bit, want to get the current change I'm working on done first < 1221408626 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DeathStation 9000 >:| < 1221408632 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9000 is (c) my ass >:| < 1221408638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, eh? < 1221408651 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you remember the LOVEMACHINE 9000? < 1221408651 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: his langs end with 9000 < 1221408654 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Love Machine 9000, etc < 1221408654 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeathStation_9000 < 1221408656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see that < 1221408660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has been around for ages < 1221408683 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of langs < 1221408698 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would you go about to parse a bunch of parenthesis in Scheme? < 1221408712 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make a lang based on mu functions. < 1221408746 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With 0, suc, projection, mu, and two functions : recursion and composition. < 1221408754 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way, everything can be written in one line < 1221408764 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unlambda-like < 1221409318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue < 1221409333 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could just use the syntax of Scheme < 1221409339 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it feels a little like cheating < 1221412654 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, your mycology update works < 1221412674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming we can trust x... < 1221412674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAD: wraparound with non-cardinal delta doesn't work < 1221412674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instruction { is not implemented (at x=63 y=70). < 1221413081 0 :Slereah_!n=x@ANantes-252-1-60-20.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221413081 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221413455 0 :Slereah!n=x@ANantes-252-1-60-20.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221413755 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1221413879 0 :Slereah2!n=x@ANantes-252-1-52-12.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221413880 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:| < 1221414133 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221414152 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221414395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, Hm does { copy elements, or move them? < 1221414465 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221414483 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"transfers n elements from the SOSS to the TOSS"... < 1221414509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, "It copies these elements as a block, so order is preserved." < 1221414535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what made me wonder < 1221414542 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'"Transfer" is used here in the sense of "move," not "copy": the original cells are removed.' < 1221414563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1221414584 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-24-48.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1221414721 0 :oklobol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221414759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I swear lists:reverse/2 in stdlib of erlang was made for Stack Stacks as I implement them... < 1221414761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : > lists:reverse([1, 2, 3, 4], [a, b, c]). < 1221414761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [4,3,2,1,a,b,c] < 1221414777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it reverses the first list and appends to second list to the end of the first one < 1221414792 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's silly < 1221414807 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(++) . reverse < 1221414812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfect for Stack Stack End < 1221414817 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect lists:reverse([1,2,3,4],[a,b,c]) to return two values < 1221414822 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[4,3,2,1] and [c,b,a] < 1221414826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, um the ++ is rather ineffective in Erlang < 1221414834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since lists are cons cells like in lisp < 1221414842 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: same in haskell < 1221414844 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ++ is efficient < 1221414849 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so accessing head is the effective way < 1221414855 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you think that that function doesn't do an append internally? < 1221414859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lists:reverse/2 is implemented internally yes < 1221414864 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: he is thinking it'd be two traversions < 1221414866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know it is < 1221414867 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in a non-lazy language < 1221414876 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in haskell it's just one traverse like the erlang < 1221414878 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a BIF < 1221414883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Built In Function < 1221414887 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right, in a strict language it would be two traversals < 1221414898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm? < 1221414912 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse x ++ y would traverse x twice in a strict language < 1221414914 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221414920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it does some strange magic internally in the runtime system < 1221414942 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: he meant that lists:reverse will traverse it < 1221414946 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you thought it'd traverse twice < 1221414950 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Deewiant's version < 1221414951 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are wrong < 1221415888 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1221416764 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Artificial Bee Colony Algorithm (ABC) is an optimization algorithm based on the intelligent foraging behaviour of honey bee swarm, proposed by Karaboga in 2005 " < 1221416800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah2, intriguing < 1221416804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :details? < 1221416865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah2, I'd love to hear what it is about < 1221416877 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mainegov-images.informe.org/agriculture/pi/images/bee.jpg < 1221416881 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1221416884 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Bee_Colony_Algorithm < 1221416884 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1221417160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah2, Seems rather far-fetched < 1221417184 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bees! < 1221417194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1221417201 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's make a language out of it. < 1221417208 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like... Beesfuck < 1221417210 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1221417218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you finished your scheme variant? < 1221417318 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1221417327 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back to school :( < 1221417332 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No time for langs right now. < 1221417341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what timezone? < 1221417353 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is the bee algo different from local beam search ? < 1221417355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it is Sunday here < 1221417360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is late evening < 1221417366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't see how that ends up as school < 1221417377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklobol, local beam search? < 1221417382 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster : I mean, generally < 1221417385 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :related to erlang compiled .beam file? < 1221417388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1221417403 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :local beam search is a long story < 1221417412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously searching for a compiled module, ignoring any nfs mounts! < 1221417421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs
< 1221417428 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1221417663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blergh < 1221417675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I hate stackstack since it really mess up the whole code < 1221417675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1221417798 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider writing it differently so it doesn't mess it all up :-P < 1221417860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well, having a CONS list as a stack would be sane, right? < 1221417880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now erlang is single-assignment < 1221417893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means if I change stack I need to put it back into the stack stack list < 1221417900 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoah. < 1221417904 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my submission is #1 on programming.reddit < 1221417911 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider helper functions < 1221417914 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... and #7 on reddit proper < 1221417917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm < 1221417922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, and that submission is? < 1221417927 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/71e5c/sketchpad_an_advanced_painting_program_from_1963/ < 1221418110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, interesting, but horrible sound < 1221418114 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It' < 1221418118 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s a video from the 1980s. < 1221418122 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the heck did you expect? < 1221418130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A video from the 1980s showing footage from the 1960s. < 1221418140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, better, since professional movies back then had better sound < 1221418147 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's just someone speaking, jeez. < 1221418152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1221418206 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wowzers. #5. < 1221418216 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221418350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, cool and I think some of those features may not be found in modern systems really < 1221418355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least not systems I work on < 1221418356 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, unfortunately not < 1221418364 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks totally neato, i'd love to try it out < 1221418364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possible pro CAD apps? < 1221418372 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what the constraint programming language looked like < 1221418375 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, it was a 2d system < 1221418377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I got no clue what sort of emulator you would need < 1221418379 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks vector-based < 1221418390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes I'd say it was vector based too < 1221418391 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: probably doesn't exist. I'll just get my time machine < 1221418460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not based on pixels I'd say < 1221418476 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well duh < 1221418480 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there weren't any pixel-based screens then < 1221418484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1221418492 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just being Captain Obvious < 1221418493 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno what that output is, though < 1221418497 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an oscilloscope? < 1221418505 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the way the lines wave a bit seem to suggest so < 1221418506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue < 1221418529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Sketchpad was the first program ever to utilize a complete graphical user interface, using an x-y point plotter display" < 1221418533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sketchpad < 1221418828 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neato < 1221418841 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#4 on reddit :\ < 1221418846 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :96 points < 1221418852 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I sure got lucky. :p < 1221418921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, and tomorrow it is gone again... < 1221418927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the point? < 1221418933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fame for a day? < 1221418970 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I just wanted to share it :) < 1221418974 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy shiet, #1 on programming.reddit < 1221418984 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still #4 on reddit.com. < 1221418991 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, yet you are about how high it ends up? < 1221418995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you said it before < 1221418997 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, i'm just surprised < 1221418999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Whoah. < 1221418999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : my submission is #1 on programming.reddit < 1221419006 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I was surprised. < 1221419010 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1221419013 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I forgot. :P < 1221419019 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I'm just amused. < 1221419030 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As I don't think I've had anything on the front page before. < 1221419043 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If I were a karma whore, then the reason would be karma, but I don't care. It's just a number in my profile.) < 1221419894 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg <-- do anyone else think the name QSXGA is silly? < 1221419975 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: IDKWYATAITIAAVRN < 1221419989 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what you ....? < 1221419995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no I can't decode it < 1221420009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you are talking about < 1221420020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no longer than that < 1221420028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ITIAAVRN I can't guess at < 1221420263 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I Don't Know What You Are Talking About I Think It's A (?) Very Reasonable Name < 1221420276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1221420280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sarcasm I bet < 1221420315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to that chart, my current screen is SXGA+, and my old was SXGA < 1221420338 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WSXGA+ for me < 1221420356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer 4:3 < 1221420358 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iMac 20" screen, matte, very nice lighting < 1221420364 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UGA for the win < 1221420368 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i did too but os x lends itself very well for widescreen usage < 1221420389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my current screen is 21" and matte < 1221420411 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yea, mac displays generally have higher dpi than most others < 1221420416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1221420433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, how large would UGA be? < 1221420438 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's on the chart... < 1221420452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean 24" seems reasonable? < 1221420453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1221420459 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1221420461 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21" < 1221420467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, higher DPI < 1221420492 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I have seen other formats < 1221420535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember seeing some greyscale-only screen with a insanely high resolution, extremely expensive, target at hospitals and such < 1221420540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember details < 1221420554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a standing format, that is taller than it was wide < 1221420576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3nnn x ????? < 1221420577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1221420580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1221420584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3nnn x ???? < 1221420591 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nnn> < 1221420593 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*> < 1221420594 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1221420597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1221420718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay I solved the stack stack issue I think < 1221420723 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#3 on reddit, yikes. < 1221420730 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only submitted it an hour ago. < 1221420925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I will need no code changes except changing -import(fstack, [push/2, peek/1, pop/1, popVec/1, dup/1, swap/1]). to -import(fstackstack, [push/2, peek/1, pop/1, popVec/1, dup/1, swap/1]). < 1221421118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically then end up as wrappers like: < 1221421119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push([TOSS|T] = StackStack, V) -> < 1221421119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : NewTOSS = fstack:push(TOSS, V), < 1221421119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [NewTOSS|T]. < 1221421269 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#2 < 1221421270 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1221421322 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'd like to see some evidence this isn't fake.. < 1221421323 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have citations for this? < 1221421323 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That computer seemed too high rez and the touch screen tech seemed too advanced for 67." < 1221421324 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahahahhahah < 1221421326 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :high rez < 1221421327 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1221421334 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bet he thinks it's a pixel based screen < 1221421341 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, apparently sketchpad was written in simula < 1221421366 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221421463 0 :oklobol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221421864 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1221421868 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221422144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, cool < 1221422156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any modern compiler for that language? < 1221422214 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i think so < 1221422229 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simula 67 introduced objects, classes, subclasses, virtual methods, coroutines, discrete event simulation, and features garbage collection. < 1221422231 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first oo language < 1221422234 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here < 1221422235 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Major implementations GNU Cim < 1221422239 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/software/cim/cim.html < 1221422251 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Begin < 1221422251 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : OutText ("Hello World!"); < 1221422251 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Outimage; < 1221422251 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :End; < 1221422253 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a hello world < 1221422267 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the syntax is quite sane, very readable < 1221422616 0 :Slereah_!n=x@ANantes-252-1-52-12.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221422620 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221422990 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1221422992 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 on reddit < 1221423266 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucks to be you doesn't it? < 1221423274 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1221423275 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm weeping < 1221423407 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, number 2 < 1221423416 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: duh, it fluctuates < 1221423422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and number 1 is way way higher < 1221423436 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it isn't based solely on score. < 1221423451 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, e.g. the 1000+ point submission below me < 1221423473 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's based on a combination of score, hotness, controversialness, and a bunch of other factors that reddit won't reveal to us because it's their business model < 1221423530 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who decides "controversialness" < 1221423543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is that a good or bad thing < 1221423561 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: if an item has 500 upvotes and 500 downvotes, it'd be 100% controversial < 1221423572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah I see < 1221423580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, and does that count as a + or a -? < 1221423599 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: + i think, but obviously if you have 300 upvotes and 310 downvotes the - comign from that will probably cancel it out < 1221423805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, right < 1221423872 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221424576 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1221424588 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221424650 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221424679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAD: { transfers cells incorrectly < 1221424679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 0 0 Stopping due to fear of corrupt stack stack < 1221424683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what does that mean? < 1221424701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incorrect how? < 1221424708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be useful saying stuff like: < 1221424710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"reversed" < 1221424717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "should have been 0 0 10" < 1221424718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1221425205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, IMO the current error is unusuable < 1221425239 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1221425785 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/2058.html < 1221425968 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah found the issue, I pushed offset before I popped for transfer < 1221425980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now code locks up after "GOOD: } transfers cells correctly" < 1221426088 0 :Figs!n=Figs@ip72-197-62-184.sd.sd.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221426760 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is totally Sketchpaded. I can tell by the vectors and having played a lot of Tempest in my time." < 1221426762 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*g* < 1221426775 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221426786 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hi figs < 1221426789 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just saw that on reddit < 1221426790 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1221426792 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm the one who ordered you to come in here :P < 1221426798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is figs? < 1221426803 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a regular in 2007ish < 1221426810 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am Figs! (*muahahahha*) < 1221426815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "This is totally Sketchpaded. I can tell by the vectors and having played a lot of Tempest in my time." <-- don't make sense < 1221426817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't* < 1221426818 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes it does < 1221426831 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a play on the meme "This is photoshopped, I can tell by the pixels and having seen a few shops in my time" < 1221426843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1221426849 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOZqRJzE8xg <-- sketchpad < 1221426856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I seen the video < 1221426864 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, k ;) < 1221426865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, anyway Tempest? < 1221426879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, so what esolangs do you use? < 1221426885 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: i submitted that link < 1221426888 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so everyone here has seen it :P < 1221426903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes he told us like 15 times already < 1221426907 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221426911 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(arcade_game) < 1221426914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"omg #3, omg #2, omg #1" < 1221426921 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :early vector game < 1221426923 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I didn't notice that you'd submitted it < 1221426928 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gasp* < 1221426941 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: mwahahaha! i am internet famous! or something < 1221427005 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I've played around with BF a bit, and a few other things that aren't coming to mind, but mostly I come here to bother people about language design/implementation and for random insanity/fun :) < 1221427020 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also used to enjoy obfuscating C++ < 1221427040 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which I've been told, on a couple occasions, is redundant...) < 1221427082 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster here's specialty is copypasting code from CCBI and then microoptimizing parts that don't need to be to make his funge-98 interpreter cfunge. < 1221427097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[{esoteric, [Befunge, Brainfuck]}, {nonesoteric, [C, Erlang, Bash]} < 1221427100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1221427102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[{esoteric, [Befunge, Brainfuck]}, {nonesoteric, [C, Erlang, Bash]}] < 1221427102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even < 1221427103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1221427123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tusho is lying < 1221427125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just hates me < 1221427136 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'm not lying, and i don't hate you < 1221427141 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you're annoying, sure < 1221427141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you do < 1221427147 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't hate you < 1221427147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you are lying < 1221427156 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever you say... < 1221427168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I did base a few fingerprints on CCBI ones where the spec was unclear < 1221427191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nothing in the core is based on it, or is based on discussions with CCBI author or similiar < 1221427204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most fingerprints aren't based on it < 1221427208 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's CCBI? :P < 1221427215 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: concurrent conforming befunge interpreter < 1221427219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another Befunge interpreter < 1221427234 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes back working on efunge
< 1221427245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a befunge-98 interpreter coded in Erlang) < 1221427256 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :efunge is exactly like cfunge except it's written in erlang and he can't use _posix_fadvise or _posix_fuzzy_logic_core_seed. < 1221427272 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://rafb.net/p/by2Tg875.html < 1221427279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, and you are still lying < 1221427285 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :example of some of the kinds of crap I used to make... :P < 1221427286 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no: you disagree with me < 1221427288 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :different thing < 1221427291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use no posix_* in file reading any more < 1221427296 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is a lie to say I use them < 1221427305 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it still exemplifies the general style. < 1221427309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, I said C not C++ < 1221427317 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: he wasn't replying to you. < 1221427322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it is certainly obfuscated < 1221427326 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was showing some obfuscated c++ that he made a while back < 1221427326 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said C++, not C < 1221427336 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that he mentioned when saying his esolangs < 1221427337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, well I can't read C++ < 1221427351 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you don't have to be able to read it to see the obfuscation < 1221427352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, " AnMaster: http://rafb.net/p/by2Tg875.html" " AnMaster: he wasn't replying to you." <-- really? < 1221427357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like a *highlight* to me < 1221427358 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: addressing you != replying to you < 1221427372 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, " though it is certainly obfuscated" " AnMaster: you don't have to be able to read it to see the obfuscation" < 1221427374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your point? < 1221427377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already said it < 1221427395 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'm saying that "well I can't read C++" was a silly statement as I doubt anyone but figs can read that < 1221427409 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you were trying to explain the languages you know with your [{( messages... :P < 1221427414 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't catch that < 1221427418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, yes I did < 1221427421 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you were arguing with tusho < 1221427429 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: we're always arguing, generally < 1221427434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, it was a list of tuples < 1221427442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :containing lists < 1221427445 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: he's just showing off that he knows erlang. < 1221427456 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221427468 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho is always arguing with someone < 1221427475 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklopol < 1221427476 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: shut up, you're wrong < 1221427476 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not as clever as him < 1221427482 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1221427482 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1221427484 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :naturally < 1221427487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs, actually you need to quote them as they start in uppercase < 1221427489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3> [{esoteric, ['Befunge', 'Brainfuck']}, {nonesoteric, ['C', 'Erlang', 'Bash']}]. < 1221427489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[{esoteric,['Befunge','Brainfuck']}, < 1221427489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : {nonesoteric,['C','Erlang','Bash']}] < 1221427489 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he ends up correcting us all the time < 1221427490 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you ever play my song, oklopol? < 1221427512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, except he is wrong a lot of the time < 1221427514 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: no :) but i'm getting my piano back soon, perhaps i could retry < 1221427523 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, ok :P < 1221427525 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you're wrong a lot of the time too < 1221427545 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently i just have my synth, and i'm too lazy to upload any good sounds on it < 1221427549 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm always wrong, except when I'm not. < 1221427557 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just has square, which is a bit chaotic with polyphonic music < 1221427620 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where tusho is wrong, it's irrelevant whether he was right or not < 1221427633 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : where tusho is wrong, it's irrelevant whether he was right or not < 1221427634 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zen < 1221427645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very < 1221427665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, just got the art of computer programming trilogy from amazon < 1221427671 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so pretty <3 < 1221427677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1221427680 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ooooh < 1221427686 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :want :} < 1221427691 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it costs like £100 < 1221427692 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1221427693 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just browsed through the pages and drooled < 1221427698 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though < 1221427699 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :want < 1221427700 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1221427702 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the books are really unusable now < 1221427706 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got a box of those too; a friend ordered two and sold me the other one. < 1221427731 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also bought a haskell programming book, but it was of noobial quality < 1221427761 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of these days, I'm going to have to force myself to actually learn Haskell :P < 1221427817 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although, I've been learning x86 assembly lately... < 1221428031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 is awful < 1221428041 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, good choice < 1221428044 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/71e5c/sketchpad_an_advanced_painting_program_from_1963/c05ffid i bring so many people together <3 < 1221428049 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: which book did you get? < 1221428050 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaht? < 1221428052 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaht owns < 1221428057 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real world haskell also owns < 1221428084 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expand yaht < 1221428091 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Yet Another Haskell Tutorial < 1221428101 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one is "programming in haskell" < 1221428116 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I now have the weirdest craving for bbq sauce on pizza :| < 1221428130 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ima ask #haskell what they think of that book oklopol :P < 1221428131 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, I have neither... < 1221428142 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: thanks, actually. < 1221428161 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll read it anyway, since i bought it, though, of course < 1221428181 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, apparently dcoutts reccomends it, dcoutts is pretty cool < 1221428189 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you just think it's noobish :-P < 1221428212 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(saw on the webb) < 1221428218 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: graham hutton? i like the book, but its a little thin. < 1221428224 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just took a quick glance < 1221428247 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : RWH [ed: real world haskell] is broader, with more emphasis on practical stuff < 1221428255 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's very, very thin < 1221428264 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i don't care for practicality, of course < 1221428271 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as if i'd ever *use* it ;;) < 1221428273 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yea, i just told them that :D < 1221428283 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Figs|AfkPhoneCal < 1221428286 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you could destroy every practical computer in the world I bet you would < 1221428292 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : tusho: i like the book, i was particularly happy that he covered some equational reasoning/proof stuff in it < 1221428305 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he really wants a book called "How to write completely unreadable Haskell" < 1221428307 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if no one had computers, i'd gladly live without one < 1221428353 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: s/unreadable/oko/ < 1221428360 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get your terms right < 1221428362 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a difference < 1221428378 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that might nearly be possible < 1221428403 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko o = o (okoko o) okokoko < 1221428425 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not very okoy < 1221428429 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okoy that would be < 1221428447 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko=\o->flip o okokoko$okoko o < 1221428475 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok (o) < 1221428547 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221428548 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221428739 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | http://www.codu.org/plof/dplof-x86-gnuWlinux-2006-12-19-2 < 1221428929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, < 1221428930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAD: 101-{} doesn't leave stack top as 0 and next as 1 < 1221428935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :care to say what it does instead? < 1221428939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAD: fedcba0{05-} doesn't leave 15 on stack < 1221428940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1221428956 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221429248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 :r: 4v4 < 1221429253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ends up in that loop later < 1221429475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I suspect misaligned code at: < 1221429483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 (x=27 y=84) < 1221429483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (x=27 y=85) < 1221429483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: (x=27 y=86) < 1221429483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r (x=27 y=87) < 1221429502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the v above that 4 seems to point to wrong place < 1221429836 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night Deewiant < 1221429842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everyone else < 1221429920 0 :Figs|AfkPhoneCal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Figs < 1221429941 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HelloooooooooooO! I have returned! < 1221429947 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1221431001 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1221431011 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-032-139.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1221431103 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.231 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221431147 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221431165 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1221431171 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just killed windows explorer < 1221431212 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Figs: run it again < 1221431217 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a "run task" in the task manager < 1221431223 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I know :P < 1221431226 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221431231 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wowzers. < 1221431232 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 on reddit < 1221431484 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221431504 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :careful now, lest you get addicted. < 1221431530 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah. < 1221431534 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just find it amusing < 1221431555 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addicted to being #1 on reddit seems hard < 1221431586 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could easily get ugly, if there was more than one addict < 1221431604 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221431628 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that's why so many places on the internet are ugly < 1221431699 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like this one: http://www.ugliestwebsite.com/ ? < 1221431709 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or so i've heard, i don't tend to stay at such places) < 1221431754 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not that kind of ugly < 1221431772 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the exception of those that are addicted to getting on that website :D < 1221432556 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: whoa < 1221432560 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't in simula < 1221432561 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it predated simula < 1221432563 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ Sketchpad’s implementation of class and instance-based inheritance (though not called objects) predated Simula by several years.]] < 1221432569 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sketchpad had the first OOP system. < 1221432608 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it invented... non-procedural programming, vector graphics programs, pen-operated touch screens, OOP, what else < 1221432867 0 :Figs!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Figs|AFK < 1221433166 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1221435192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall that someone here was retargeting GCC to Brainfuck... < 1221435333 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ais < 1221435411 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, yes. < 1221435420 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how far he's gotten with that
< 1221435463 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Far. < 1221435610 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How... Vague. < 1221435637 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Great Power comes Great Insanity < 1221435673 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn, there _was_ a tvtrope by that exact name < 1221435697 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION blames his subconscious
< 1221435762 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: He basically has everything done apart from actually generating the BF code. < 1221435775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has an intermediate language called ABI (for maximum nameclash) that can be assembled into BF pretty trivially. < 1221435787 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just has to fix up the last bits of that then write the converter (apparently very trivial) < 1221435840 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't say scetchpad invented oop < 1221435866 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: why not? It's from 1963. < 1221435873 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i just saw the youtube clip < 1221435892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wouldn't say it invented oop, because it... didn't < 1221435911 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: duh not in its UI < 1221435913 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was coded with oop < 1221435918 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except it wasn't called that, ofc < 1221435918 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1221435924 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it was the first to do it < 1221435932 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well as i said, i only know what i saw in the clip < 1221435960 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was a bit far-fetched to call the ui a language :) < 1221435986 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the language to specify constraints (e.g. to make the lines parallel and such) was a full language < 1221435987 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was a sign language < 1221435988 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-imperative < 1221436020 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: That's fairly impressive. < 1221436034 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what? < 1221436037 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sketchpad or gcc-bf < 1221436252 0 :Figs|AFK!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"...hold the mayo, Mr. Mayor!" < 1221436642 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this genuine maya mayo?