< 1221955594 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1221957860 0 :Slereah2!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-30-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221957860 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221959515 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1221959578 0 :CO2Games!n=CO2Games@75-173-245-211.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221959597 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I came up with a creative esoteric language :D < 1221959632 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's based around input. < 1221959639 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Input and output < 1221959711 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody wants to know what it is? < 1221959754 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody is here, is where it's at :) < 1221959771 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D; < 1221959801 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two hours since anyone spoke < 1221959910 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is it based, exactly < 1221959951 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEll < 1221959955 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an assembly line < 1221959971 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What am I, some cheap labor? < 1221959973 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :input is split, processed, and spit out. < 1221959975 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1221959989 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like an assembly line. < 1221960000 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Input is processed by different 'workers' and then output < 1221960032 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, then, it's pretty much like any language < 1221960040 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The workers are the real core of the language < 1221960136 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1221960140 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes well uhh < 1221960146 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each worker gets a turn < 1221960155 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to process a single set of input < 1221960162 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and place it to output < 1221960251 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there can be seperators, combiners, etc. < 1221960261 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just things that alter the data < 1221962076 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1221962154 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is the name of a supervisor of an assembly line? < 1221964651 0 :ihope!n=Peggy@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1221964827 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like monads *haw haw haw* < 1221964835 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lol, monads. < 1221964842 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOLMONADS < 1221964842 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1221964844 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm making it. < 1221964857 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will the basic data type be the monad? < 1221964887 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMPURE MONAD IS IMPURE < 1221965098 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1221965179 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CO2Games: sounds a bit like dataflow programming, or unix pipes < 1221965223 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell also does a lot of pipelines, with or without monads < 1221965255 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1221965265 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just saw an ad for a site where you can buy a will with a "money back guarantee." < 1221965272 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: that IMPURE MONAD IS IMPURE meme, where's that from? < 1221965278 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He planned to leave his vast riches to you, but due to a typo in the will it's been given to somebody with an extremely similar name ... the company he bought the will from had a money-back guarantee however, so here's $39.95." < 1221965291 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I was parodying CAT IS < 1221965300 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Since ihope said "Lol, monads" which I changed to "LOLMONADS" < 1221965305 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's where i heard it < 1221965316 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it might be something older than lolcat? < 1221965324 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well it's intended to be an assembly line, each connection has a length < 1221965329 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe, but not to my knowledge. < 1221965389 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CO2Games: if it's just one assembly line then that sounds like a unix pipeline, except for the supervisor bit < 1221965436 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible monads _might_ work for that, if you wanted it in haskell < 1221965455 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I brought up monads :P < 1221965479 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait those are not haskell Monads, but haskell Arrows < 1221965874 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION returneth from D&D. < 1221966000 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOSER < 1221966043 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need to make a net version of Hydra. < 1221966051 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hydra? < 1221966066 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/wiki/?title=Hydra < 1221966757 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's great - by the time a game with a few players is over, you'll have 20-something heads on the table. < 1221966800 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this sounds strangely similar to D&D < 1221966803 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1221966808 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahaha < 1221966814 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice jab, but I rolled a perfect 20 to save. < 1221967066 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a 1 in 20 chance that you'll be able to do anything. < 1221967111 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I attempt to make freenode sapient. < 1221967124 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, rolled a 5. I attempt to make freenode sapient. < 1221967133 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, rolled a 13. I attempt to make freenode sapient. < 1221967140 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, rolled a 13. I attempt to make freenode sapient. < 1221967141 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recalls reading about take 20 < 1221967150 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, rolled a 6. I attempt to make freenode sapient. < 1221967160 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, rolled a 9. I'll stop now. < 1221967170 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you roll 1 first? < 1221967225 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll fail? < 1221967234 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, heck. I attempt to make freenode sapient. < 1221967245 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, rolled a 14. I attempt to make freenode sapient. < 1221967255 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, rolled a 1. So what happens? < 1221967267 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ATTEMPT TO REMOVE IHOPE'S HEAD AND EAT IT WITH A NICE CHIANTI. < 1221967270 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH LOOK, I ROLLED A 20 < 1221967273 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAY BYE TO YOUR HEAD < 1221967288 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 19 heads to go < 1221967292 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye, head. < 1221967298 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know I had 20 heads. < 1221967303 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION grows two more < 1221967330 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've always wanted to think about 21 things at once. It ranks right up there near my ultimate lifetime goal. < 1221967351 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION refuses to take the bait < 1221967369 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION agrees with oerjan. < 1221967369 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't have to ask. I can just begin a sentence with "Namely,". < 1221967408 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hides behind a big rock < 1221967409 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, to jump out of a bus window, catch a paper that flew out and achieved a height of at least 10 meters before coming back down, and jump back into the bus through the same window, all while the bus is going down the freeway at 60 miles per hour. < 1221967415 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, you all knew that already. < 1221967443 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was so absurd i'm thinking you know about a random generator for the stuff < 1221967474 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I spent weeks thinking that up. < 1221967481 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it doesn't quite fit that - not enough independent parts < 1221967591 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My penultimate lifetime goal is to be present at a disaster scene, fall unconscious, get inappropriately triaged as needing immediate medical help, wake up, notice that I have a red piece of tape stuck to me, and yell, "Nurse, I'd like a green one, please!" < 1221967651 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that _could_ fit in nicely with the first one < 1221967665 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1221967691 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are all fantasy scenes from a potential story, taken out of context and relabeled as lifetime goals. < 1221967718 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nurse of course turns out to be color blind < 1221967774 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ultimate goal random generator doesn't give any relevant google hits, even removing any word other than "goal" < 1221967783 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My antepenultimate lifetime goal is to get surrounded by police officers inside my high school, then charge at one of them, knocking them over and allowing me to escape. My preantepenultimate lifetime goal is to be taking an AP test when my pager goes off, prompting me to yell "Gotta go!" and run out of the classroom. < 1221967807 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you write a random ultimate goal generator, I will wub you forever. < 1221967829 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :knocking _them_ over? this some kind of domino effect? < 1221967836 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Singular "they". < 1221967908 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the goal under that would presumably be to find a way of continuing the construction "preantepenultimate" indefinitely < 1221967972 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one before the preantepenultimate is the penpreantepenultimate, the one before that is the antepenpreantepenultimate, and the one before that is the trasantepenpreantepenultimate. < 1221968015 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1221968049 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the one before that is; I'd have to see what "preantepenultimate" is in Italian. < 1221968098 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1221968126 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um you mean what penpreantepenultimate is < 1221968142 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1221968162 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was spanish, not italian < 1221968188 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since everyone in #esoteric notices everything, and you know it was Spanish, I'm sure you noticed that I began that with "tras", not "pre". < 1221968221 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course. i also assume you are also reading http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/preantepenultimate < 1221968237 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1221968266 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the italian could be close, perhaps exactly the same < 1221968302 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually spanish tras = italian tra < 1221968306 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1221968343 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or fra) < 1221968381 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1221968391 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to take back what I said and say that the thing before preantepenultimate is nigh-preantepenultimate. < 1221968403 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are obviously originally the same but they don't mean the same thing < 1221968694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://members.tripod.com/~mrpuzuzu/plan.html looked promising but i think it may need some improvement < 1221968888 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | :P < 1221968931 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: ah, you liked it too? i guess it will be useful to you now that you are sentient < 1221968931 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: because the actual cells used by the program are 2 and 4. < 1221968946 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: fiendish < 1221968947 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I should grab that one implementation of Scheme for the Palm. < 1221968970 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, say something now if you want me to yell at you. < 1221968970 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope: 0>"olleH"?:#,_@ < 1221968974 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You asked for it. < 1221968975 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1221968975 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | the entire language is one big race condition, hehe < 1221968982 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, what language is this? < 1221969009 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something concurrent, presumably < 1221969020 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it is: http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Conveyor < 1221969021 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just anything imperative < 1221972118 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1221974532 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1221974532 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1221974532 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1221974532 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1221974868 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-11-36.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221974878 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221974878 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221974878 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@iruel.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1221977906 0 :HanDongSeong!n=L@116.45.63.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221979445 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1221983606 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1221983724 0 :HanDongSeong!n=L@116.45.63.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1221983999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1221984000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1221986699 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:23… × oerjan hides behind a big rock <<< haw haw i misread this < 1221986701 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was good < 1221986815 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had a dream where i was holding this balloon, and suddenly it started lifting me in the air < 1221987185 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INFINITE CONVEYOR < 1221987204 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so long you can just give up right away. < 1221990021 0 :Mony!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-148-172.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221990043 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1221990488 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | Not straight after the first. < 1221990681 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, how r u ? < 1221990682 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: anyways it probably doesn't qualify as esoteric, simply because its designed to be useful ;) < 1221990708 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think u're right bot ;) < 1221990864 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smart bot such a pretty bot < 1221990870 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pats < 1221990881 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklopol < 1221990895 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Mony < 1221991342 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi HanDongSeong < 1221991404 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi HanDongSeong ;) < 1221991412 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1221991433 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how are you < 1221991463 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there are any heads with an equal or lower value than the card being placed, it must be placed on one of them. ||| If the player cannot place a card normally (that is, if there are no heads with a value greater than or equal to the value of the card) < 1221991472 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'm misunderstanding something here < 1221991479 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: explain time < 1221991490 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of space. < 1221991696 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: am i getting this right, the first part of hydra is effectively random, because you don't know whether your actions hinder or help you, because you don't know the cards of anyone < 1221991697 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1221991718 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after the first deck has been dispersed, it's about remembering your discard pile < 1221991725 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the discard piles of others < 1221991756 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strategically of course, i doubt it's anything but a game of luck played with humans < 1221991810 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: how come you're not responding to my highlights? if you're asleep just wake up sheesh... < 1221991831 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sun is up there, even though you may not see it from where you're at. < 1221991860 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but saying "it's night where i live!" is like saying "i gotta go to sleep because my curtains are closed" < 1221991866 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it simply makes no sense < 1221991872 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, just open the drapes < 1221991874 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move to finland < 1221991881 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1221991912 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's coffee time, i'm not imaginative enough for monologues anymore < 1221991933 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall the times of glory when i'd just fill pages and pages of random content from the backside of my brain < 1221991941 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was fun, fun time they were, indeed yes < 1221991950 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now coffee -> < 1221991955 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*time < 1221991957 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was a typo. < 1221992022 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*times < 1221992037 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, that was too :-) < 1221992041 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now really coffee -> < 1221992077 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hi HanDongSeong < 1221992085 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee powa < 1221992103 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee makes it all seem worthwhile < 1221992130 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, it took some *time* to say that, man < 1221992130 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I hate coffee, I prefer milk) < 1221992267 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong: well at first i was not going to hi you, because i didn't hi Mony either just before that until he hied me first. and i've seen him more times than you so it wouldn't have been fair < 1221992288 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but than i realized your nick is effing awesome < 1221992306 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Korean < 1221992322 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's awesome because it may actually not be nonsense < 1221992358 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, what does it mean to you? < 1221992359 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean? < 1221992364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err nothing < 1221992390 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why do you think it's f-ing awesome < 1221992401 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"han" is swedish for "he", "dong" is a cock, "seong" could be a typoed sone; i think this means "he sings about cocks" < 1221992406 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you never know < 1221992411 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*typoed song < 1221992417 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :syntactically < 1221992419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1221992527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong: what does it mean? :) < 1221992547 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because if i was right, i'm going to take that awesomeness comment back, and also retract my hi < 1221992568 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... so a lot of people are telling me that dong means cock in their languages... < 1221992579 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :means cock in english. < 1221992588 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case of my name, Dong is supposed to mean a "pillar" < 1221992607 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"he sings about cocks" <-- lol < 1221992629 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in Korean, metaphorically it means something forming basis of another thing < 1221992647 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1221992656 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it strikes as a chinese ding-dong-wiggly-wong word to me. the penis interpretation was only after i separated to capitalized words and tried to find similar ones in random languages i know. < 1221992732 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many far-eastern words are finnish onomatopoeia for sounds of bells < 1221992752 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seong used in my name means "to form" or "to constitute" < 1221992769 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for english ones; i guess this is why they stuff like dong sound funny to me, and don't immediately sound like cock. < 1221992779 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we usually have verb after objective in Korean language < 1221992786 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool < 1221992801 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a stack-based language? < 1221992809 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have lambdas?!? < 1221992817 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god i wanna learn korean < 1221992826 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come to think of it... i guess so? :) < 1221992831 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1221992842 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's RPN < 1221992851 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty wack. < 1221992854 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want < 1221992860 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about with longer sentences < 1221992895 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the girl who was given the ice cream said to the old man with the giant beard that she'd never seen such a large reptile before in her life < 1221992906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you quickly translate this random sentence and tell me the constituent words < 1221992909 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::---) < 1221992979 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Han is my surname... it doesn't really mean something < 1221993017 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1221993018 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1221993058 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you want me to use IPAs? < 1221993127 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait a sec < 1221993146 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mother called. < 1221993283 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the translated sentence will be: "아이스크림을 받아든 소녀는 수염이 어마어마한 그 노인에게 그런 커다란 파충류는 난생 처음 본다고 말했다." < 1221993291 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how that's pretty < 1221993292 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but obviously you can't read it < 1221993294 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wow < 1221993298 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously not < 1221993535 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first word is ice-cream-eul, where eul (pronounced [ɨl]) is a 'postposition' to mark an objective. ice cream is just ice cream in korean, it's a borrowed word < 1221993566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :figures < 1221993861 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second one... pronounced [padadɨn], originally a verb '받아들다' meaning 'to take and hold', and here modified as a 'pre-noun'. you can regard it as an adjective < 1221993884 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1221993887 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loldong < 1221993908 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of which < 1221993917 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'rodong' means labor in korean < 1221993952 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"So, how much do you love noodles?" < 1221993956 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus the name of governing party of North Korea, Joseon Rodongdang < 1221994019 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rodongdang sounds a bit belly too, "dong dang" is definitely something a bell would say. < 1221994038 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, enough with the belittling your language, do continue with the example < 1221994039 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1221994086 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what's "ro"? < 1221994137 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :means "all" in lojban, i'm sure there's a connection < 1221994170 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like western ones, korean is a syllable-oriented language < 1221994204 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure what that means < 1221994222 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means one syllable has very many meanings, and it's meaning can only be told when it is composed with other syllables < 1221994310 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given only 'dong', you can't tell anything, since it really can be a lot of things < 1221994310 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, right < 1221994313 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like japan? < 1221994364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in japanese dictionaries they usually list the things a syllable *doesn't* mean < 1221994368 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no kidding it's true. < 1221994392 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm *japanese < 1221994406 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :em.. in japanese, you usually need two or more syllables to express one morpheme < 1221994423 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be < 1221994426 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know japanese < 1221994429 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a morpheme with only one syllable is quite rare in japanese < 1221994447 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've just read part of this kanji book, and for instance KO is listed for about 50 words < 1221994455 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it means everything < 1221994458 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however in korean a morpheme is often one syllable < 1221994476 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that's the point < 1221994502 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the point of syllable-orientation or the point of why japanese doesn't have unisyllable morphemes? < 1221994533 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually these two languages are very very similar... because of the colonization, which happened just about 60 years ago < 1221994545 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see i see < 1221994568 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought korean was substantially... weirder :) < 1221994569 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what i mean is in japanese they tend to have more syllables < 1221994579 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in sounded more foreign to western ppl < 1221994608 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in terms of irregularity, korean is weirder, yeah < 1221994634 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway either break down the example or ask for a smaller one, i wanna see how stacky it is :P < 1221994668 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the crocodile without teeth did not enjoy his tea < 1221994691 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mentioned ko in japanese, and almost same thing applies to dong in korean < 1221994715 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this, of course, happens right after the first scene with the girl, little girls are the tea of crocodiles) < 1221994770 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1221994797 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: btw don't read this, i don't want to hear how wrong i am about the few things i said about japanese. < 1221994804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah2: wat wat? < 1221994839 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"little girls are the tea of crocodiles" < 1221994889 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dong can refer to.... east, movement, child, bronze, winter, freezing, pillar, the pupil of the eye, ... < 1221994892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, girl sees crocodile, crocodile eats girl, doesn't like his tea, is killed by man with beard, who then eats the ice cream and leaves the little girl crying (it was her ice cream after all) < 1221994931 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong: well all those words mean "cock" in english, so i guess it's kinda reverse syllable-oriented. < 1221994958 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Korea is full of dong < 1221994964 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1221994965 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so, like, then i totally Froze her with with my Bronze Child" < 1221994980 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hawt < 1221994984 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dong is one kind of administrative district in South Korea. < 1221994986 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wow, you really Wintered her with your Movement?" < 1221994991 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's why S Korea is full of dong. < 1221995009 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"yeah, totally Pillared the Pupil of Her Eye" < 1221995022 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop < 1221995047 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, just demonstrating english to you. < 1221995065 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1221995068 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the urbandictionary dialect < 1221995107 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1221995110 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bro grab! < 1221995128 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? < 1221995145 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go to the urbandictionary < 1221995167 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it a synonym for East? < 1221995192 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then, i'll give you a totally uncockifiable meaning of dong. Dong sometimes means a paulownia tree! < 1221995223 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1221995228 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever seen a tree? < 1221995238 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a recursive cock, man < 1221995247 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an effing cock fractal < 1221995259 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, i'm not sure what paulownia is < 1221995282 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can east mean cock < 1221995305 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EAST SIDE RULES! < 1221995342 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong: on this channel people whose nicks start with an "o" are generally joking 24/7 < 1221995369 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, optbot? < 1221995370 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: or related to the instruments and the arrangement. < 1221995373 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1221995378 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that guy cracks me up < 1221995407 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, what i wanted to see was you desperately trying to connect them but okay.. < 1221995418 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, good < 1221995432 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bit sad when people think my trolling is real < 1221995443 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's try. < 1221995512 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, okay, one of the stereotypes of eastern ppl is that they're small; i'm sure this is enough for calling your little man the eastern dude, which could abbreviate to "east" < 1221995541 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also for now on my penis will be called the eastern dude, i don't care how racist that is. < 1221995545 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1221995546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from < 1221995577 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The eastern Pauloma Tree < 1221995582 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paulownia < 1221995586 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also south absolutely means cock already, as the cock is in the south < 1221995589 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The eastern tree < 1221995592 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but once it's erected < 1221995594 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's east. < 1221995605 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your cock is twisted oklopol < 1221995609 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me straighten it up < 1221995610 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1221995620 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually quite common to have your penis twist a bit to the left. < 1221995653 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, i don't need you to reassure or counterexample that. < 1221995678 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let mejust get the scanner < 1221995697 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll show you a man's pupil of the eye < 1221995739 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll promise to look if you make a fractal out of it. < 1221995755 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong: btw did you come here for esolangs? < 1221995768 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A fractal requires an infinite number of iterations < 1221995774 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have that much time < 1221995778 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most of the time it's just jokes, sex and befunge. < 1221995801 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's mister dong by the way? < 1221995809 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is your esolang, mister dong < 1221995857 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah2: shoudn't you physicists be excellent at analysis? infinite is nothing if you have infinite nothings-on-average < 1221995885 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dong is not nothing, though < 1221995912 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, i proposed the idea of udage < 1221995918 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1221995922 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've heard of that < 1221995923 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :udage? < 1221995941 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Udage < 1221995941 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Udage < 1221995957 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Udage < 1221995964 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is the memory called udage? < 1221995981 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah2, RTFA! :) < 1221996005 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's long and full of stuff I don't understand :( < 1221996005 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the links are all broken, though < 1221996013 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer science ended in the 60's for me < 1221996020 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's all theoretical shit < 1221996027 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tape is a linear memory space with unbounded cells, each containing a bit value, 0 or 1. <<< unbounded number of? < 1221996034 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1221996045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because an unbounded bit is actually not that unbounded :P < 1221996056 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means your 1 can be as big as you want < 1221996057 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my English was (and is, maybe) really horrible back then < 1221996061 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Example : < 1221996065 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/| < 1221996067 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1221996067 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1221996070 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :__ < 1221996106 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah2, the idea is simple. it is "pattern-based." the code AAAABA and BBBBAB means the same thing. < 1221996117 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'kay < 1221996135 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enabling to compose an esoteric song < 1221996136 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong: that actually sounds remotely interesting < 1221996138 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean the door part < 1221996156 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'd have to click on the link to get more details :< < 1221996172 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry for that < 1221996178 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gs30ng.exca.net/udage/specification < 1221996186 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which button do i press now :-) < 1221996198 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=lsvfhW857PA < 1221996203 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the free hosting service i used was blown off < 1221996211 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Doosan Daewoo" < 1221996213 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1221996250 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably the most famous girl on the tube. < 1221996269 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rate spam pages for google, i call her spam girl < 1221996343 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Glypho could be easier to understand < 1221996404 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the symbol-independence is quite a simple concept, i was more interested in the doors < 1221996419 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... nothing < 1221996422 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I hope so. I don't have a korean keyboard! < 1221996430 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the doors are nothing? < 1221996438 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just think about the pointer of bf < 1221996442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1221996468 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1221996483 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought they were doors to the *code* < 1221996486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glypho, hm, what input encoding is used? < 1221996490 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dang. < 1221996492 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is a symbol = a byte < 1221996494 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dong < 1221996517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it an unicode codepoint (after parsing the utf8= < 1221996521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/=/)/ < 1221996571 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1221996594 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think one symbol should be one unicode character (like Udage does), but it's up to the author, and he's not here anymore < 1221996624 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-30-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1221996630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well < 1221996631 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1221996634 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was here while i was working on Udage, and was inspired by it < 1221996681 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong, does Udage use utf8 or ascii? < 1221996728 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, you mean the code? < 1221996811 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :utf8 is recommended, although ascii characters (not even all of them) are enough to write programs < 1221996863 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the minimal amount of char you can use? < 1221996890 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that's an interesting topic < 1221996908 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong, point is you need to know the charset used for the source file < 1221996910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :consider: < 1221996913 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :åååö < 1221996927 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got it < 1221996928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that is the glypho < 1221996930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not udage < 1221996934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks udage syntax < 1221996947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AABC == ÅÅÄÖ < 1221996949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1221996951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the udage < 1221996952 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, no, that's enough, i got your point < 1221996978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except if the interpreter used char * it wouldn't work < 1221996983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would read bytes < 1221996987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is fine for ascii < 1221996992 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not for utf8 < 1221996999 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Udage is meant to enable non-text source codes, like a MIDI music to be a source code < 1221997006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah hm < 1221997034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sonata of Hello World :D < 1221997049 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like one note is one symbol < 1221997063 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minuet of Eratosthenes! < 1221997084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or... < 1221997085 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99 bottles of beer on the wall for 99 bottles of beer on the wall < 1221997093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 99 bootles of beer symphony < 1221997098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err spelling < 1221997101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I was too slow < 1221997105 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1221997111 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a PNG image to be a source code. (GregorR was thinking of a good name for 2-dimensional Udage) < 1221997123 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :twodage < 1221997125 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that Udage is pattern-based, symbol-independent < 1221997129 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bidage < 1221997134 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dongdage < 1221997136 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how all these things are possible < 1221997143 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dong means "picture" too, no? < 1221997147 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it means everything < 1221997153 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Udong < 1221997160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong, ah! The program: Mona World < 1221997162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1221997169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :image case < 1221997176 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can only say that the implementation is recommended to assume that the code is utf8, but basically it's up to the implementation < 1221997186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong, as for two dimensional udage that is easy < 1221997189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bedage < 1221997192 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from befunge < 1221997201 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ufunge < 1221997213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, no, that could be trefunge or unefunge based < 1221997219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact closer to unefunge < 1221997222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the u < 1221997226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one dimensional < 1221997252 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO NOT JUDGE A LANGUAGE DIMENSION BY ITS NAME < 1221997262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong, lets use EBCDIC! < 1221997330 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main idea of Udage code is repeatation < 1221997342 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Glypho, you can say it is indeed pattern-based < 1221997350 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extra Befungesque Colored Dong Incredibly Complete? < 1221997376 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just group the code, 4 chars in each group < 1221997411 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i actually had in mind before proposing the idea of udage in public < 1221997497 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason i didn't finally take it is that "all the songs of udage will likely be quadruple-timed" < 1221997560 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no waltz possible, how sad < 1221997603 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1221997617 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong: http://www.esolangs.org/wiki/Eodermdrome for interesting usage of pattern-based syntax < 1221997653 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i would prefer only 3 chars in each group < 1221997870 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want a new thread to be born every cycle, and i want every thread to have a portal to some other thread < 1221997880 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the threads form a graph that's constantly growing < 1221997895 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and every node is a thread with its own small set of rules for movement < 1221998088 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i lost interest in udage since 2006, because one morning i got a far greater esolang idea than it < 1221998163 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was all excited, passionate and obssessed by thinking i should write down the spec of this and the implementation in a week, and then ... i've been busy. < 1221998171 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1221998175 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the feeling. < 1221998192 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus right know, it's school months < 1221998200 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't have that much time < 1221998268 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have no idea how to implement my last language D: < 1221999201 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1221999366 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/RyanEstrada.jpg < 1222000698 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.68.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1222001147 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Korean_dance-Bukcheong_Saja_Noreum-01.jpg < 1222001157 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Korea often invaded by furry monsters? < 1222001225 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1222001364 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zomg furries! < 1222001644 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bukcheong lion dance! < 1222001652 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love it < 1222001665 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, once upon a time, yeah < 1222001735 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good thing they were all killed during WWII then < 1222001736 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something < 1222001758 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually there weren't lions < 1222001767 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HanDongSeong: so wait, was it furries or furry monsters < 1222001771 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the former is more terrifying < 1222001786 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those lions in that traditional play are all imaginary < 1222001818 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence there appearance, having no resemblance with real lions < 1222001830 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So why are they called lions < 1222001842 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it's like this: < 1222001871 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hey, you know what? there are some weird creatures called lions in far west < 1222001878 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cool. what do they look like? < 1222001911 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1222001916 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i dunno lol < 1222001934 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ¯\(°_o)/¯ < 1222001940 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1222001978 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, my explanation is a little bit simplified but basically true < 1222002003 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't think China would use memes while talking to Korea. < 1222002018 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so these korean people made their own image of lion < 1222002052 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and used it as a theatrical device < 1222002094 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1222002106 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't China had lion statues that were more lion-like than that? < 1222002110 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is this even older < 1222002128 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the idea of Korea knowing that lions exist but not what they look like < 1222002137 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Korea sees an elephant for the first time < 1222002143 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION GET IN THE CAR < 1222002147 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1222002161 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's elephants in Asia < 1222002167 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess they already know < 1222002172 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elephants are kind of like finland < 1222002182 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they? < 1222002188 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1222002196 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... When Russia fights elephants, Russia loses? < 1222002204 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually elephants were imported here, about 600 years ago. < 1222002206 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And elephants have 2 people < 1222002215 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6 of which are in this channel < 1222002224 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but I'm pretty sure that at least India has elephants < 1222002234 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And India isn't as far as Africa. < 1222002263 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_, true. they were imported from india. < 1222002301 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Europe only gets shitty life importation. < 1222002302 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just as buddhism was imported from india to korea about a couple of thousand years ago < 1222002314 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like tomatoes and potatoes < 1222002332 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's when the existence of 'lion' was known in korea < 1222002383 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hey, you know what? there are some weird creatures called buddhas < 1222002383 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cool. what do they look like? < 1222002408 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that how Dragons were created? < 1222002417 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Failed representations of Buddha < 1222002443 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dragons have been around in mythology longer than 600 years < 1222002444 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1222002470 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :buddhism is currently one of the major three religions of S Korea < 1222002490 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other is COMMUNISM < 1222002493 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1222002516 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, there are 3 major religions in S Korea: Buddhism and communism < 1222002524 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No communism in Korea... although there's Jucheism in N Korea < 1222002531 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jucheism? < 1222002540 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche < 1222002559 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the official ideology of N Korea < 1222002563 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't do magic tricks with nuclear arms < 1222002571 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rubbish. S Korea has 3 religions and they are buddhism and communism < 1222002572 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is really like religion < 1222002572 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's science :D < 1222002584 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCIENCE! < 1222002609 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titoism <- that name sounds way better < 1222002630 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi, they are Confucianism, Buddhism, and Christianism < 1222002656 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it "christianity"? :P < 1222002661 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1222002663 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although Christianism sounds funnier :D < 1222002695 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly there are also many atheists here < 1222002711 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, because of COMMUNISM < 1222002716 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because the first two religions doesn't imply the existence of god < 1222002716 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any joos? :o < 1222002732 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: The only conclusion that Confucianism, Christianity, Judaism and Atheism < 1222002736 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all facades for communism. < 1222002739 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1222002777 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... i gotta go. < 1222002779 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ya < 1222002783 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye. < 1222002796 0 :HanDongSeong!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"자러" < 1222002805 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think he liked our communism theories < 1222002823 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we scared him with our stupidity < 1222002890 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possible. < 1222004023 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.collisiondetection.net/mt/archives/2006/06/the_gillette_si.php The number of blades on razors will be the cause of singularity. < 1222004134 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it will plateau < 1222006497 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/Avogadro_Amedeo.jpg < 1222006504 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avogadro is an ugly little man < 1222007802 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1222008221 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"À vaincre sans péril on triomphe sans gloire..." < 1222008644 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are christians statistically happier than atheists? < 1222008686 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :substitute some other religion for christianity if you wish < 1222008716 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can't have gay sex or kill babies < 1222008719 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'd guess no. < 1222008796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, if ( doesn't push correctly mycology still tries to unload using the value it pushed, this behaviour doesn't match what the comment on line 214-217 in mycology.b98 say < 1222008812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it end up in an infinite loop on line 217 instead < 1222008840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bouncing between the ) at )g22g33 and ,a$_,#! #:< < 1222008987 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what does ( push < 1222009015 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it print the "BAD: ( did not push correct fingerprint"? < 1222009033 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ( pushed nothing < 1222009037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the issue < 1222009041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no it never printed that < 1222009084 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's odd < 1222009085 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm an atheist but i'm pretty happy < 1222009091 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, there's also a misalignment there < 1222009106 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again i don't really think of myself as having an actual present disbelief of a god rather than just a lack of belief < 1222009171 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so can you give me a trace/something of what happens after the ( at (118,210) ? < 1222009269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will try < 1222009276 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: it's obvious people with brain are happy, intelligence knows what it likes; i'm wondering about the majority of people < 1222009285 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brains < 1222009287 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, once it compiles again I will emulate old behaviour again and test it. < 1222009288 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People with brain are happy < 1222009293 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They need to do way instain mother> < 1222009321 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"way instain mother>"? < 1222009359 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=instain < 1222009393 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who kill thier babbys. because these babby cant frigth back? < 1222009407 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh "do way instain mother" < 1222009416 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i missed the do, might've been able to parse that < 1222009440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, just got it to work so will commit, push, then check old behaviour < 1222009442 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf btw < 1222009495 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old < 1222009571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, http://pastebin.ca/1207418 < 1222009613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what happened was that it 1) loaded the fingerprint but 2) *did not* push the fingerprint or the 1 < 1222009646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be easy to simulate that in ccbi by just commenting out a few lines < 1222010103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, bbl, have guests. < 1222010110 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1222010318 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-24-48.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1222011002 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )" < 1222011378 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah_: yes very old < 1222011381 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he was confused < 1222011385 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah, so the cause was the misalignment I mentioned < 1222011423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ok, you have fixed it? < 1222011435 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's rather trivial < 1222011440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok :) < 1222011440 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't uploaded < 1222011451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, fine since I already have working NULL and ROMA here < 1222011454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ROMA was fun < 1222011463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did it the lazy functional way < 1222011467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make_pusher(Amount) -> < 1222011468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : fun(IP, Stack, _Space) -> < 1222011468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : {IP, fstackstack:push(Stack, Amount)} < 1222011468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : end. < 1222011479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first class functions rock :) < 1222011494 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forsooth < 1222011500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forsooth? < 1222011509 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1222011514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION googles define: < 1222011529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"an archaic word originally meaning `in truth' but now usually used to express disbelief " < 1222011540 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1222011556 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FORSOOTH! < 1222011559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=forsooth < 1222011560 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never seen or heard it used to express disbelief < 1222011573 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :define disbelief < 1222011580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=define%3Aforsooth < 1222011606 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? < 1222011609 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1222011611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they disagree < 1222011623 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidently princeton does, yes < 1222011644 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiktionary doesn't think so < 1222011677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, Yes I mean that the two hits disagree with each other < 1222011686 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1222011702 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : forsooth < 1222011704 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1222011787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, though higher order functions aren't really needed to generate ROMA. In cfunge I use: < 1222011787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define ROMAPUSH(x, y) \ < 1222011788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : static void FingerROMApush ## x (instructionPointer * ip) { \ < 1222011788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : StackPush(ip->stack, (fungeCell)y); \ < 1222011788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1222011796 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: o rly < 1222011799 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would never have guessed < 1222011805 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course they aren't require < 1222011806 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :d < 1222011824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I mean required in order to generate in a simple way < 1222011827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1222011834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you care? < 1222011847 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean why do i care, am i suddenly not allowed to talk in here about what i want to talk about? < 1222011895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, of course you are allowed, but since you seem to not care at all about cfunge normally... < 1222011924 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't talking about cfunge < 1222012088 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | heh < 1222012492 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhhhh < 1222012493 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a collaborative language. If you're reading this, nobody collaborated yet. Oops. (This should be gone in 5 minutes when we actually think of something.) < 1222012580 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I uploaded the fixed Mycology in case you're interested < 1222012734 0 :ihope!n=Peggy@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1222012897 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Won't be back for a while..." < 1222013038 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222013057 0 :Slereah2!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-30-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222013599 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CO2Games: yes < 1222013605 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will collaborate on it eventually < 1222013611 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::\ < 1222013625 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CO2Games: what is the problem < 1222013650 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds fun but it's not made yet < 1222013660 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1222013790 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CO2Games: the name is a knuth quote, btw < 1222013847 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh it is now? < 1222013856 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's attributed I think < 1222013859 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1222013861 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it might verily be! < 1222013933 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he's right, though < 1222013940 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A language with a lame name won't do. < 1222013944 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1222013951 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D is unpopular beacuse its impossible to google < 1222013979 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also The Who. < 1222013994 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes/ < 1222014152 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1222014156 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what do you guys think of conveyor < 1222014170 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good name! < 1222014181 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It makes me think of "Rube on a conveyor belt" < 1222014184 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah no I mean the language < 1222014202 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Conveyor < 1222014224 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno. < 1222014244 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all commands are four characters with no arguments < 1222014244 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sort of have to do that solid state physic homework, so I can't really read that. < 1222014425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, there? < 1222014431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAD: a04-M doesn't push -2 < 1222014434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in MODU < 1222014458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wouldn't it be a good idea to make it say: "BAD: a04-M doesn't push -2 (it pushed XXX instead)" < 1222014460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1222014477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly you could run it separately < 1222014481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that isn't the point < 1222014518 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-085-016-239-200.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1222014604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah fixed the issue < 1222014607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD: 0a-04-R pushes -2 < 1222014607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOOD: 0a-04-U pushes 2 < 1222014630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, why is there a blank line between those in mycology output? IRC eats it up < 1222015174 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: there shouldn't be < 1222015177 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"And I invented doors, no joke!" < 1222015189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well I can't explain it < 1222015206 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah I found it < 1222015208 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's a bug in your interpreter < 1222015213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes I found it < 1222015226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was pushing on the wrong stack < 1222015238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean: erlang have single assignment < 1222015255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : {S2, Y} = pop(Stack), < 1222015255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : {S3, X} = pop(S2), < 1222015265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I pushed the result on S2 and returned that by mistake < 1222015374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I have ROMA NULL and MODU now :) < 1222015428 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-24-48.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1222015509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, btw what do you think about "extra" environment variables in y? Basically it seems that Erlang defines some custom ones in it's *own* wrapper script < 1222015528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also modifies PATH < 1222015655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, like this: http://rafb.net/p/V82BuQ74.html < 1222015661 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you've already defined efunge as running on the "Erlang OS", do whatever you wish... < 1222015703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well erlang is kind of closed world, not as much as that squeak tusho mentioned, but certainly to a high degree :) < 1222015721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some of these I can't "fix" < 1222015751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh and erl won't run without HOME or PATH set, that is why they are defined on the command line) < 1222015796 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1222015811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, one thing: I will clearly document these issues. < 1222015864 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pippi Longstocking http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORM5kKGdaxA < 1222015893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION laughs at the name < 1222015914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh even funnier name in the youtube video < 1222015935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess they had to translate from the original Swedish name (Pipi Longstrump) < 1222015938 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Pippi Långstrump is the original < 1222015942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :å* < 1222015946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh? < 1222015956 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm quite sure < 1222015967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, as far as I know it was written by a Swedish author < 1222015975 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, astrid lindgren < 1222015989 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so.. why wouldn't Pippi Långstrump be the original then? < 1222016000 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-09-21 18:52:18 ( Deewiant) AnMaster: Pippi Långstrump is the original < 1222016004 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did I say it wasn't ;-P < 1222016006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh sorry < 1222016009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :misread as isn't < 1222016020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah I saw my typo < 1222016025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should indeed be å < 1222016080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbbl < 1222016082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl* < 1222017609 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1222019801 0 :Mony!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-148-172.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222019839 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm back :) < 1222020039 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222020267 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol's Japanese sucks balls. < 1222020276 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-30-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222020839 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be lucky to have a japanese like that < 1222021110 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222021393 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Welcome back to Agora. < 1222021907 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222021949 0 :Slereah2!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-30-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222022039 0 :kar8ng1!n=kar8nga@151.60.135.166 JOIN :#esoteric < 1222022039 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222022051 0 :Slereah2!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-30-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222022173 0 :kar8ng1!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1222023738 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1222024160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, btw I think you said my .spec system to generate fingerprint list (and skeletons for fingerprint C files) in cfunge "looked unnecessary complex" or something like that? < 1222024185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I'm now glad I did it, was easy to modify the scripts to output erlang instead :) < 1222024292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than 2/3rd of the script code is shared < 1222024446 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you could have just used sed on the non-unneccessarily-complex code < 1222024488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, hm? You mean sed the output C file to produce an erlang file? < 1222024495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah, possible but actually harder < 1222024509 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No, I mean without the overly complex .spec system. < 1222024515 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just do it in a simple way, then to get the erlang, use sed. < 1222024521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, it isn't really that complex < 1222024549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just defines some metadata (description, url) of the fingerprint + what instructions it implements < 1222024583 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: W00ts. < 1222024611 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :) < 1222024882 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm bored. How will the channel react if I say < 1222024883 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX < 1222024920 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KILL THE WITCH < 1222024922 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WIIIIITCH\ < 1222024929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1222025035 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BURN HER! < 1222025126 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1222025835 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1222025835 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222025944 0 :Slereah2!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-30-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222026098 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess what i just ost < 1222026100 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*lost < 1222026102 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE GAME < 1222026123 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty a lot, tusho < 1222026129 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION refers to xkcd for the cure < 1222026141 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid < 1222026145 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the game does not specify that you can win < 1222026148 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just that you can lose < 1222026153 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that xkcd comic actually makes you lose < 1222026155 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you think about it. < 1222026159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what game? < 1222026165 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The Game. < 1222026186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I'm afraid that means nothing to me. I even checked the last xkcd before asking in order to be sure < 1222026187 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm don't think, therefore, i don't lose. < 1222026203 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1222026205 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*i don't < 1222026206 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 1. You are playing the game. 2. Every time you think about The Game you lose the game. 3. Loss must be announced. < 1222026207 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, if you think about the game, you lose the game, and you have to announce that you lost. < 1222026225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm who made that game up? < 1222026229 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Who knows? < 1222026231 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has been around since forever. < 1222026239 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A wildly successful cultural meme. < 1222026243 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not internet-originated.) < 1222026261 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, I maintain, approximately the stupidest thing ever. < 1222026273 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(mind_game) < 1222026291 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: stupid or not, you're playing it < 1222026297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I was just thinking about saying that it was stupid yes < 1222026323 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: no, I ignore the rules < 1222026331 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: impossible < 1222026334 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are playing. < 1222026543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, also what xkcd comic in specific did you mean? < 1222026551 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it said 'You have just WON the game!' < 1222026556 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't work for obvious reasons < 1222026563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, well *what* one < 1222026567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the last one certainly < 1222026567 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: look in the archives, jeez < 1222026633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I have no intention to check them all, will check ones with names containing "game" and/or "won" < 1222026638 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor do i. < 1222026641 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't ask me to. < 1222026663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :non related of those < 1222026664 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1222026665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you don't remember the url of every comic you've read? are you retarded or something? < 1222026673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I didn't suggest that < 1222026680 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I thought maybe he remembered the name < 1222026683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can happen < 1222026693 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xkcd.com/391/ < 1222026697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't complain that he *didn't* remember it < 1222026702 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1222026724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, like Deewiant, I'm *not* playing < 1222026725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :period < 1222026747 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: this is not about what you complained, this is about what tusho didn't remember < 1222026760 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being serious here, it's not healty to forget a number. < 1222026764 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*healthy < 1222026779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I don't think remembering numbers is that important, I myself have a bad memory for such things < 1222026842 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i on a channel full of apes or something? that's just scary, AnMaster. < 1222026875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure the basic constants I remember and such (pi ~ 3.14159, e ~ 2.7183) < 1222026878 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a few more < 1222026898 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember the whole pi < 1222026901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :phi ~ 1.618 < 1222026904 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of it? < 1222026908 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1222026912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, impossible < 1222026913 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the last digit < 1222026914 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol at oklopol < 1222026917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, then what is the last digit < 1222026921 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, damn you beat me to it < 1222026940 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: wait a mo, i remember them sequentially < 1222026944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1222026959 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is at digit no. 2^7324 now < 1222026967 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, get back to me then < 1222026969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :single linked list obviously < 1222026978 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, how many digits are there? < 1222026983 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you at least tell us what digit 2^7324 is? < 1222026990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes please < 1222026996 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not anymore, he's past that < 1222026996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell us 2^7324 < 1222027001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1222027002 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'd have to start over to get there again < 1222027004 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's about infinite, i haven't counted the exact number < 1222027009 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :may be like a hundred off infinity < 1222027015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1222027021 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give or take < 1222027037 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right right. < 1222027067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no way to get from 0 to infinite by counting. That is like one of the defining properties of infinity < 1222027068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1222027088 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, but it's a hundred off < 1222027108 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i guess it can't be exactly infinity then < 1222027124 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm sure it's not more than a thousand less at least < 1222027142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't work either... < 1222027153 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean? < 1222027164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite - any finite number = infinite < 1222027196 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: stop treating oklopol like a retard < 1222027199 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he knows that < 1222027200 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe you, prove it < 1222027201 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite obviously < 1222027203 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might seem that way because infinity seems like such a bit number to you. < 1222027205 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone in #esoteric does < 1222027215 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but oklopol is just crazy and likes saying crap, and it is funny. < 1222027217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, Cantor already did, I suggest you read his works on the subject < 1222027220 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, a million minus ten? it's million < 1222027227 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because who cares about ten < 1222027232 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when there's a million < 1222027238 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the same thing < 1222027239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, no no < 1222027241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all < 1222027244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1222027249 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except infinity is a bit more than a million iirc < 1222027260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you are all trolling now I'll just ignore this discussion < 1222027261 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't remember the actual difference now < 1222027289 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1222027297 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I fail to see how this is trolling < 1222027314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I don't think you are a retard either. < 1222027342 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't think you did < 1222027353 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would say it started with trolling, and after that it was pure joking; except that i'm totally serious < 1222027366 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, you are under arrest for attempted murder of a joke. < 1222027432 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaanyway AnMaster i do understand the concept of infinity, i've been reading about it for the past week for an analysis course like 24/7 < 1222027432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1222027466 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :......but i think they're just approximating infinity to be that big i'm sure there are *some* numbers that are bigger than it! < 1222027467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, fun, though maybe not fun if it is 24/7. < 1222027484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1222027498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that depends on how you define infinity < 1222027513 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 24/7 for a week would be impossible since it's not that thick a book, i've been reading other things as well < 1222027519 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc 10^aleph-0 is larger than aleph-0 < 1222027522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spelling?) < 1222027527 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not proven < 1222027549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh possible, I said iirc < 1222027570 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds one to that and laughs in victory! < 1222027578 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1222027579 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hmm, maybe it is, I'm not sure actually < 1222027586 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might require the axiom of choice though < 1222027598 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION forgot to read Dudley's Dungeon < 1222027645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, also aren't the set of natural numbers smaller than the set of all rational and irrational numbers (IIRC!!!!) < 1222027650 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1222027653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1222027655 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rational is equal < 1222027657 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to nats < 1222027659 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1222027671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh was it irrational ones then that wasn't? < 1222027671 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think you should read a bit more Cantor ;-) < 1222027677 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is true for any numbers you can represent with finite tuples of natural numbers < 1222027689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, very possible. I have learnt most from other books and or websites < 1222027702 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does proving reals > nats require the AoC? < 1222027721 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol? < 1222027729 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oerjan just joined. < 1222027736 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan? < 1222027737 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all questions should be directed to him < 1222027739 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regarding all < 1222027742 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :allness. < 1222027759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regarding math certainly < 1222027788 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, naturals ~~ rationals < reals < 1222027797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1222027799 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reals ~~ irrationals < 1222027804 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidently it does not < 1222027811 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt it does < 1222027821 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wasn't sure < 1222027824 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :evidently not < 1222027829 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i only have an intuitive view to this, really < 1222027844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph_number Aleph-one > Aleph-zero < 1222027860 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proving that reals reasonably exist at all requires some piece of AoC < 1222027865 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with infinities intuition is like eatin butter with your butt, the words suggest you can do it, but it's actually very unpleasant < 1222027869 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*eating < 1222027873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I find it hard, or rather impossible, to understand how "infinite" can come in different sizes < 1222027877 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but from there it's plain sailing < 1222027885 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm, how's that < 1222027897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what about 10^aleph-zero, is it larger than aleph-zero or is it equal? < 1222027909 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :larger < 1222027918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I thought I read < 1222027929 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's equal to the reals < 1222027953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then what about 10^10^aleph-zero < 1222027960 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :larger still < 1222027963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the intuitive proof, 10^aleph-zero is greater than any polynomial, so you can't make the numbers out of finite tuples < 1222027987 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cantor's proof shows that 10^x, or 2^x > x for any cardinality without exception < 1222028003 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the diagonal one) < 1222028007 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for all b > 1: b ^ An = A(n+1) ? < 1222028010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hm < 1222028014 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no < 1222028025 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming the CH, yes? < 1222028028 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: cool < 1222028042 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did that only hold for n = 0 < 1222028046 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the _generalized_ continuum hypothesis says that for b = 2 < 1222028046 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1222028056 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and n = 0, or all n? < 1222028067 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite n < 1222028071 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for all b >= 2: b ^ An = A(n+1) ? < 1222028072 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait < 1222028075 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yeah < 1222028078 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generalized, for all n < 1222028078 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A is aleph presumably < 1222028082 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1222028084 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so any n < 1222028086 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not ackerman < 1222028086 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1222028101 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CH is for n = 0, GCH is for all n < 1222028137 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1222028145 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no! you could have b > A(n+1) so that's obviously false < 1222028180 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b = 2, basically, but any finite b >= 2 should also work < 1222028196 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1222028206 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:15:35 oerjan: oklopol: no! you could have b > A(n+1) so that's obviously false <<< you mathematicians are such cheaters < 1222028225 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1222028233 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok, cheaters how? < 1222028279 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to explain what i meant, ignore it. < 1222028291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1222028294 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was just trying to be a weird joke. < 1222028305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird sure. < 1222028311 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-30-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222028362 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Slereah2 < 1222028367 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1222028375 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not Slereah2! you're an imposter < 1222028384 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION leaves suddenly < 1222028384 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222028447 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc there are lots of cardinalities such that x^(A_0) = x < 1222028529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what about aleph-0 ^ aleph-0 < 1222028531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1222028541 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the reals too iirc < 1222028555 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(reals = beth-1) < 1222028579 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beth-0 = aleph-0, beth-(n+1) = 2^(beth-n), by definition < 1222028580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, that's just odd. since you said 10^10^aleph-0 > 10^aleph-0 and 10^aleph-0 = reals < 1222028597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but indeed intuition doesn't work for this stuff < 1222028614 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recall that ^ is right associative < 1222028638 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's the most useful convention) < 1222028655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah... that explains it < 1222028682 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, wonder why my graph calculator makes it *left associative* < 1222028708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes no sense < 1222028719 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not a very strong convention, since in real math it's done with superscripts < 1222028725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah true < 1222028746 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but haskell uses it, QED :D < 1222028759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, so... 10^A_0 == A_0 ^ A_0 and 10 < A_0 < 1222028788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION unloads his intuition module < 1222028867 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly 2^x = A_0 ^ x for any infinite cardinality < 1222028903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um ok < 1222028968 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah here is one "intuitive" way of seeing it: < 1222028969 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for A_0 ^ A_0) < 1222028988 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recall that any real number can be given as a continued fraction < 1222028996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1222029011 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at each step of a continued fraction you can choose an arbitrary natural number < 1222029027 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so number of reals should be about A_0^A_0 < 1222029045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm makes sense < 1222029079 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now once you have this for x = A_0, larger x may follow with a bit of arithmetic < 1222029092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for x >= A_0, x = x * A_0 < 1222029142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um right < 1222029143 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^x = 2^(x*A_0) = (2^A_0)^x < 1222029187 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proves that they are all equal from 2 to 2^A_0 ~~ reals < 1222029191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. The math makes sense if I ignore what A_0 actually stands for :P < 1222029207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it is possible to find any given number hm? < 1222029211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the continued fraction for pi? :D < 1222029231 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can calculate it as long as you want but there is no known pattern < 1222029237 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for e, there is a pattern < 1222029243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh there is? < 1222029258 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme google it < 1222029313 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1222029378 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e = [2,1,2,1,1,4,1,1,6,...] http://mathworld.wolfram.com/e.html < 1222029413 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e = 2+1/(1+1/(2+1/(... etc. < 1222029413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1222029417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1222029444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah I just thought of a way to represent all digits of pi. Quite a lot of cheating but should work < 1222029451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1222029461 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go for it < 1222029464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is 1, in base pi < 1222029465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1222029485 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean 10 < 1222029492 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :owned :) < 1222029496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes, except the 0 key is sticky < 1222029497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1222029502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very strange < 1222029513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs to clean the keyboard < 1222029522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r k and ä are also sticky < 1222029575 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't see AnMaster typing jla anywhere < 1222029587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ?? < 1222029601 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put some r k and in that ;) < 1222029601 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why jla < 1222029623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jäklar? < 1222029629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1222029766 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so called non-simple continued fractions where you don't always use 1 as the numerator. then there are patterns for pi iirc < 1222029791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm interesting < 1222029808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is it known if pi is finite or infinite? < 1222029826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in digit count I mean < 1222029828 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is transcendental, which is stronger than irrational < 1222029836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is e < 1222029880 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the solution to any polynomial equation with rationals < 1222029945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how was that proved? < 1222030021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean that pi and e are transcendental < 1222030034 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :complicated < 1222030050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah well < 1222030105 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindemann-Weierstrass_theorem < 1222030195 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1222030200 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"À vaincre sans péril on triomphe sans gloire..." < 1222030205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, complicated indeed < 1222030220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too complicated at this time of the night. Yawn < 1222030245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not sure if it will be too complicated when I'm not sleepy as well) < 1222030656 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222031968 0 :Slereah2!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-30-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222033689 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | the language should aim at creating itself < 1222033873 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r02jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1222033894 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: pi has infinite digits, yes < 1222033976 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, the fourth digit of pi is infinite < 1222034173 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1222034236 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r02jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1222034278 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1222034292 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r02jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1222034337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1222034350 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r02jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1222034368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1222034381 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r02jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1222034403 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION finds the BIG fly swattter < 1222034425 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION starts with swatting a stray t < 1222034453 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION then swats pikhq, to make him stay in one place < 1222034514 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry. < 1222034525 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1222034728 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually my real dream is to it to some of those motorbikes that use to drive around the central city on weekends < 1222034732 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to do it < 1222034741 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats his bad fingers < 1222034809 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, they are modified to _sound_ like flies, so should be treated like it < 1222034896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, my networking setup has become even *more* bizarre. < 1222034901 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got 3 VLANs going. < 1222034913 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION read that as networking soup < 1222034935 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One is bridged to the Internet, one is routed into VPNs, and one is my personal LAN. < 1222034955 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this somehow seemed rational at the time? < 1222034962 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does. < 1222034982 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though half of it is an excuse to play with VLANs. < 1222035010 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which aren't that hard to set up in Linux, actually. < 1222035038 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Half of your face is an excuse to play with VLANs < 1222035040 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooh burn < 1222035065 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: you burned? coffee too hot? hm, coffee... < 1222035306 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slurps loudly < 1222035372 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I do not have coffee right now < 1222035402 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does, although not top quality < 1222035478 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am considering coffee in the near future. < 1222035521 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you're british, so maybe it was tea... < 1222035593 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not in prescence of tea either although i do like tea < 1222035600 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean... tea is nice... < 1222035631 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is < 1222035877 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1222035887 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-085-016-236-180.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1222035918 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1222035922 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: should i get some tea or coffee? < 1222035938 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1222035990 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i hate languages that have || and && returning booleans < 1222035996 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should return one of their two arguments damnit < 1222035999 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1222036013 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION switches oerjan to C < 1222036015 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: should i get some tea or coffee? < 1222036027 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1222036122 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i don't have any tea (well, less than about 10 years old), you cannot have it either < 1222036134 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: interestin < 1222036134 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1222036138 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only fair < 1222036178 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly 15 years < 1222036372 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: do you prefer coffee or tea < 1222036409 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i drink far more coffee < 1222036603 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not the question < 1222036609 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1222036736 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this coffee is not particularly good... < 1222036766 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with good coffee, it's more even < 1222036812 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it depends how my stomach is feeling < 1222036929 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i'll go for tea soon... quite tired and feel like being warmer < 1222036977 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOO! DAMN YOU! LETTING ME SIT HERE WITH MY AWFUL COFFEE < 1222037058 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: let's put it this way < 1222037065 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's gonna be far worse coffee out there < 1222037069 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you HAVE coffeee < 1222037071 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*coffee < 1222037074 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that bad, surely < 1222037113 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think just hot water would have been an improvement :D < 1222037132 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah. yes. likely. < 1222037136 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1222037137 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1222037138 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I misread) < 1222037144 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well... < 1222037148 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's coffee, isn't it? < 1222037156 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, sure there are different goodnesses < 1222037158 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically, yes < 1222037162 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not like coffee can be a terrible thing. < 1222037353 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after careful deliberation, i have now poured out the coffee and replaced it with cold water < 1222037358 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1222037403 0 :Slereah2!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-30-147.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222037429 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that must be pretty bad coffee... < 1222037446 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nescafe Gold, actually < 1222037623 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep it for emergencies. apparently this wasn't one. < 1222037635 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4174519.stm < 1222037667 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read it before, i think < 1222039181 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i have decided on tea! < 1222039184 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think. < 1222039206 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whateve < 1222039216 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see if i care < 1222039276 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :may the fleas of a thousand camels descend upon your nether regions < 1222039292 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'll send you some tea D: < 1222039342 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1222039351 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"CommandQ" < 1222041155 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host)