< 1222214910 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The longer descriptions at the image pages are more... verbose. < 1222214952 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, the one with the short description "mailboxes" has a long description: "Mailboxes. Lowercase 'a', lowercase 'b'... uppercase 'C'? Why? Why?! OHGAHGHGHAGH WHAT DOES IT MEAN!! AN ARMY OF SNEEZING WANGS STALKS MY NIGHTMARE ...really, there wasn't that much to see." < 1222214981 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep is necessary now. Already 02am in this time zone. < 1222216737 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222216745 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1222217709 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1222218263 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My discovery of the day: Chocolate + maple = good < 1222221917 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION won in a shoppa match (in Worms) < 1222228090 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | and it does actually have goto :P < 1222231301 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My discovery of the day: CengageNOW sucks balls. < 1222231335 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The homework in my calc III class is done via it... < 1222231340 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, it is currently down. < 1222232597 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip68-98-89-121.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1222235316 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-122-224.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1222235893 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )" < 1222236110 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1222237109 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1222237182 0 :Slereah2!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222237189 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1222239928 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1222240572 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1222243199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1222243200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1222243750 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1222243754 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222244121 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is recursion. It is perfectly normal and no cause for alarm. < 1222244254 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Re topic, what has goto? < 1222244254 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's not monospaced. < 1222244270 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Blame your IRC client for the font, not me. < 1222244270 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ello! < 1222244276 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Well hey there! < 1222244276 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Then I let go :-P < 1222244287 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't, we like you! < 1222245021 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222246100 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1222246547 0 :Slereah2!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222247637 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1222248527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1222248994 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1222249690 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | where a pointer of some sort travels through the whitespace, constrained by black pixel walls, with other color pixels being instructions. < 1222253060 0 :Slereah2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222253181 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222254716 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.68.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1222254794 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gotta love the phrase 'AN ARMY OF SNEEZING WANGS STALKS MY NIGHTMARE' < 1222254809 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1222254882 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: AN ARMY OF SNEEZING WANGS STALKS MY NIGHTMARE < 1222254898 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1222254904 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just read the logs < 1222254916 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1222254920 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had said that i love the phrase < 1222254925 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not that they did, in fact, stalk my nightmare < 1222254933 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i gave you new information < 1222254938 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1222254946 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/g2/v/Travel/2007/Lieksa/img_3488.jpg.html hahahaha "Beware of crazy people skiing without snow." :D < 1222254964 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wang = jaw or jawbone < 1222254986 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. a slap, a blow < 1222255002 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wang#Etymology_2, I assume < 1222255005 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or are these chinese people? < 1222255025 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiktionary never comes up when i google < 1222255049 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so don't google :P < 1222255085 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the fourth google page < 1222255115 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/g2/v/Travel/2007/Lieksa/img_3499.jpg.html < 1222255116 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZOOOOOOOOOM < 1222255127 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like portals < 1222255128 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for TIME < 1222255370 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"So, how much do you love noodles?" < 1222255567 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should've tried to find that same tree, though. But I didn't have the sign picture as a reference when taking the new one. < 1222255641 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Does an army of sneezing wangs still stalk your nightmare? < 1222256070 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it has receded. The source was http://isometric.sixsided.org/_/i_have_horrible_allergies/ -- doesn't seem to be too googlable, thanks to the text-in-pictures thing. < 1222256241 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: reminds me of storygen < 1222256775 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gaiz < 1222256781 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know Mathematica well? < 1222256798 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 does < 1222256799 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda < 1222256861 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a function that transforms a function into the computation of its error? < 1222256874 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno lol < 1222256901 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like a*b -> ((Da/a) + (Db/b) + (Da*Db/a*b)) *ab < 1222256927 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried looking for "error" in the help, but all I get are error functions. < 1222257023 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propagation_of_error < 1222257026 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like that shit < 1222258151 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ayeh! The pain!" < 1222258357 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite an esoteric language - http://www.gameroo.nl/games/light-bot < 1222258450 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The whole notion of significant digits is heavily flawed" < 1222258457 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn you physics professors >:| < 1222258639 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222258653 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222258658 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you there? < 1222260760 0 :Mony!n=AssHole@AToulouse-258-1-72-160.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222260815 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plop < 1222263506 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-028-216.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1222265897 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222265915 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222266072 0 :ihope!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1222266072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1222266165 0 :ihope!n=Peggy@c-71-205-100-59.hsd1.mi.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1222266165 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1222266578 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Do you like Lua ? < 1222266578 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: And it's cheap! < 1222266608 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, are u sure ? ;) < 1222266608 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: is it just like that? < 1222266615 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think < 1222267363 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222267374 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222267426 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-080-228-181-057.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1222268196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, are you a random bot or do you actually try to make sense? ;P < 1222268197 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: This is, to quote Marimite, my way of ``running away'' from exams :P < 1222268212 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that made sense < 1222268213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, are you trying to avoid my question? < 1222268214 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a few of them is alright < 1222268219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, yes more or less < 1222268221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1222268257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he may be saying that it is his way to relax, to turn his brain off < 1222268262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, are you male or female? < 1222268262 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: hard to say if something is a euphamism < 1222268285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... < 1222268288 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: hes saying that genders don't matter to him < 1222268292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1222268294 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor relationships < 1222268298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are right < 1222268307 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: and yet you're cheerful? < 1222268307 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: speaking of drugs, i need caffeine < 1222268311 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1222268313 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his solution is drugs. < 1222268316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1222268317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is bad < 1222268320 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1222268324 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: we're gonna have to put you in rehab < 1222268325 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: to allow pushing several in one row < 1222268331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1222268336 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no, you can't take drugs any more sorry < 1222268336 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: what is your complaint < 1222268347 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: drugs are bad for computer programs mmkay < 1222268347 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I dunno. :| < 1222268352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, and that explains why he is talking nonsense sometimes. Some drugs make you act weird < 1222268359 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: no, i'm pretty sure artificial programs in memory shouldn't take drugs :D < 1222268360 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: can i try? < 1222268363 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: NO DAMNIT < 1222268364 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: smalltalk is pretty cool. < 1222268371 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: yes i can see you are an expert at it < 1222268371 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: then i realized it actually was elp! < 1222268377 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_____________________o < 1222268381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elp is? < 1222268385 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: what is elp < 1222268385 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: well the ones with a computational agent, a turtle, are the ones people usually make, simple to invent, usually tc, not at all nice to program < 1222268397 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like he's back on the drugs < 1222268411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, actually he may be speaking of Logo < 1222268413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turtles < 1222268417 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1222268419 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is elp < 1222268426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, now that I can't answer < 1222268453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders < 1222268478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, maybe a drug? < 1222268533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, so were you talking about Logo there? < 1222268534 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ah. < 1222268567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, That reply would had made sense for a statement, but I asked a question... < 1222268567 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "nats"? < 1222268577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, definitely drugs I think... < 1222268892 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: (define (foo x) (+ x x))(foo 10) < 1222268892 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: There's a family name in my family that hasn't been used for, oh, ten generations or so. < 1222268954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, what name is that? < 1222268954 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what's wrong with this one?, (define (fib n) (+ (fib (- n 1) (- n 2)))) < 1222268977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, sorry don't know lisp really < 1222268978 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: unsafe functionality in PSOX: Things like opening files < 1222269008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, for any PSOX discussion I suggest talking to Sgeo < 1222269008 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it was actually me not understanding git that made me take so long < 1222269083 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: (let ([x 42][y 18])(+ x y)) < 1222269083 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: (Kipple note) Since kipple buffers input, you will have to send all of the input and then an EOF command. See !help eof < 1222269180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help eof < 1222269183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1222269190 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot, What is Kipple? < 1222269191 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's why we should use artificial intelligence to do it for us. :-) < 1222269196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1222269198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab < 1222270089 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222270099 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222271290 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | oh < 1222272205 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were these groups of old guys proselytizing with their little green fairytale books on campus today. On the way from my bus stop to my building there were three, which is ridiculous because it's one block. < 1222272220 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I told the first one to fuck off, and neither of the other two bothered me. < 1222272222 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have I been marked? < 1222273073 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck! AnMaster told ais523 to rotate HIS logs, look at THIS: < 1222273074 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-rw-r----- 1 root adm 1.5G Sep 24 15:16 /var/log/apache2/access.log < 1222273086 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, files are there to be there! < 1222273754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, need to be rotated too < 1222273761 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1222273771 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the point of logrotation, it's just battling against the real problem < 1222273775 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inferior tools & filesystems < 1222273789 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the file represents the accesses to the webserver. < 1222273792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1222273793 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has never been a problem < 1222273797 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly, we just tail it to check stuff < 1222273801 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or occasionally grep it < 1222273807 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably nowadays we'd have to tail|grep, but whatever < 1222273812 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it's fine, really < 1222273818 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it did surprise me when seeing a file that big :D < 1222273831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you want to keep logs forever? < 1222273842 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: when I don't I'll cut the file < 1222273864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, another good reason for log rotation: compressing old log files < 1222273866 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I am very fond of preserving ephemera < 1222273882 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that is true, but we have tons free < 1222273895 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not _tons_ but still < 1222273901 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1222273907 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actual log rotation is mostly silly to me < 1222273910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok I guess it is fine then < 1222273923 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're google... sure, do it < 1222273925 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll probably use up 10gb+ logs a day anyway < 1222273932 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but rutian is extremely low activity, i can archive logs manually no problem < 1222273966 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to open the access log in vim < 1222273977 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, think its trying to load the whole thing. < 1222273979 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb. < 1222274009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, most text editors do that < 1222274025 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's a bit silly, really < 1222274029 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :big files exist... < 1222274032 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1222274037 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vi circa 1970 < 1222274039 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't < 1222274040 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1222274043 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here it is < 1222274051 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite snappy < 1222274052 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is nice < 1222274063 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1222274066 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has only loaded up to august :P < 1222274084 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only reason these logs are so big = the Counter < 1222274090 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes 3 http requests every .5 seconds < 1222274094 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of whether you click or not < 1222274102 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't exactly design it for high traffic... < 1222274110 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ for.*// < 1222274222 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rotate my irc-logs monthly so that if I know approximately when something was said, I can "grep foo freenode/#chan/2007-0[6-9]*" for it. < 1222274236 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For active channels the grep-time is a bit big otherwise. < 1222274238 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think this is kind of a case for putting logs in a database < 1222274249 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :date-based is just ONE of the ways you might wanna search logs... < 1222274256 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too much work for so little benefit, I think. < 1222274258 0 :ais523!n=ais523@sm01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1222274259 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1222274268 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1222274271 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1222274334 0 :tusho!n=tusho@91.105.68.172 JOIN :#esoteric < 1222274634 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1222274649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello ais523 < 1222274677 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnMaster < 1222274691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, any gcc-bf news? < 1222274695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1222274698 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :busy in RL, ish < 1222274707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1222274713 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also trying to help tusho out of a huge amount of trouble e's got emself into in Agora < 1222274741 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing that can be done save if the ratification was retroactive and thus the message's claim of identity was never a lie < 1222275126 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222275714 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-10-94.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222276517 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1222276517 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1222276756 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222276770 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222276951 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222276981 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-26-23.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222277289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :away for the evening < 1222277290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya < 1222277317 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1222277578 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1222278028 0 :CO2Games!n=CO2Games@75-173-245-211.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1222278393 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1222280512 0 :tusho_!n=tusho@91.105.117.163 JOIN :#esoteric < 1222280706 0 :tusho_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1222280710 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1222280711 0 :tusho_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :tusho < 1222280723 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello underscore < 1222280733 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has said hi to the rest of tusho_ already < 1222280795 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1222280898 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoh < 1222280909 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1222281026 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah! < 1222281220 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hih ! < 1222281803 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :höh < 1222281810 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h€h < 1222281817 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :häh < 1222281829 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hµh < 1222281832 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hŷh? < 1222281833 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huoh < 1222281902 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hèh < 1222281928 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hẹh < 1222282026 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h&h < 1222282180 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this, a language based on commands inside pairs of h's? < 1222282204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an ad-hoc meme that lasts a few minutes < 1222282206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they happen < 1222282481 0 :oklofok!n=nnscript@oklopol.yok.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1222285140 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-24-48.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1222285527 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1222285650 0 :CO2Games!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1222287629 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@sm01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1222287630 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523_ < 1222287636 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222287671 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1222288118 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1222288122 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"À vaincre sans péril on triomphe sans gloire..." < 1222288125 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye Mony < 1222288139 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, does anyone remember Mony doing anything here but saying hi and goodbye < 1222288149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and occasionally joining in pointless memes like that h.*h thing above? < 1222288154 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I mind < 1222288157 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-09-24 16:30:08 ( Mony) optbot, are u sure ? ;) < 1222288158 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a bit unusual < 1222288158 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: D: < 1222288185 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I consider optbot another pointless meme, really < 1222288185 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, here we go < 1222288186 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ok < 1222288186 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008-09-03 20:52:23( Mony) does anyone got a good tutorial about the PE Format ? < 1222288190 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1222288201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is something substantive, at least < 1222288219 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all for this month, though :-P < 1222288644 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@sm01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1222288644 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523_ < 1222288686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222288690 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1222288968 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, as for that discussion we had a while ago about answering the question vs. asking wtf someone is doing: < 1222288985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone on comp.lang.c asked how to load Notepad from a CGI script, without the script waiting for it to finish < 1222289009 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even think of an eso reason why that is even a remotely good idea... < 1222289013 0 :Corun!n=Corun@host81-154-61-144.range81-154.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1222289138 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: simple < 1222289143 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did something similar a while back < 1222289147 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reason is < 1222289148 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a CMS < 1222289152 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on flat files < 1222289155 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1222289162 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on your site copy < 1222289166 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it links to < 1222289166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, someone actually did give the correct answer (system("start notepad")) < 1222289173 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://local-copy/edit?page=foo < 1222289175 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1222289178 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on your local copy < 1222289182 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that runs notepad on the cms file < 1222289186 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and redirects immediately back to the page < 1222289195 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so for you, you can click 'edit' on the site copy, and get a notepad window pop up < 1222289254 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... that's clever < 1222289258 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1222289262 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except with mine it opened textmate < 1222289273 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i actually like, mostly < 1222289277 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from haskell & lisp < 1222289281 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, there's an eso reason for everything! < 1222289281 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which it sucks at, so i use emacs < 1222289288 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: to be honest, though, i doubt that person had that in mind < 1222289293 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do something that clever, then you don't use notepad. < 1222289308 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps for staff to edit it < 1222289315 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although staff would generally prefer wysiwyg, really... < 1222289601 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-63-238.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1222289935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1222290260 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :notepad is a nice program < 1222290278 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it opens fast and has an evenly-spaced font by default < 1222290291 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: no it doesn't open fast on large files < 1222290303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it doesn't open at all on large files < 1222290304 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this the hard way < 1222290312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ah, that's right, used not to < 1222290320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think they fixed that some time around XP, or possibly Vista, though < 1222290325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm? it suggests using word pad instead < 1222290326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1222290334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that was with older versions < 1222290354 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it doesn't, wordpad will work for the rest of the cases, except you need to change the font, and it takes about half a second more to open < 1222290431 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IME Wordpad used courier new for text files by default < 1222290471 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :used to, yes < 1222290475 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i have vista now. < 1222290484 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it uses Arial < 1222290487 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1222290489 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arial? < 1222290491 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did they change that? < 1222290495 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have no idea < 1222290496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Arial, in Vista? < 1222290496 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but... vista deprecated arial < 1222290499 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1222290505 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: actually XP deprecated arial, for Verdana < 1222290507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1222290514 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: verdana is awful, though :P < 1222290515 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Vista deprecated Verdana for Calibri < 1222290517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC < 1222290522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verdana is worse than Arial < 1222290524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1222290527 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is when i open wordpad, it uses arial. < 1222290533 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's alright if you compress it to 90% width < 1222290536 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :verdana is just awful awful awful < 1222290538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Calibri? < 1222290539 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously < 1222290544 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: calibri is a new font < 1222290548 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with cambria and consolas < 1222290550 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and others, i think < 1222290554 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :made by MS for vista < 1222290556 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1222290557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there's 6 of them IIRC < 1222290559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all starting with C < 1222290561 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :made by $type_foundry for MS for vista < 1222290565 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all fonts are equal up to evenly-spacedness < 1222290573 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... < 1222290575 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: even Wingdings? < 1222290579 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or Lucida Password? < 1222290581 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :imagine microsoft making a font... < 1222290582 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1222290589 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: MS Sans Serif < 1222290596 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calibri is Office 2007 default, too; can't remember which one came first, Office 2007 or Vista. < 1222290597 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't all that bad actually for on-screen use < 1222290600 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME!!! < 1222290608 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: some fonts you need to learn to read, yes, i guess that's another difference < 1222290608 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible for printing ofc < 1222290617 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, tusho: Ms Comic Sans ;D < 1222290620 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: Lucida Password can't be read at all < 1222290624 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1222290624 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft did not make comic sans. < 1222290625 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it maps every printable character to * < 1222290634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, who made then= < 1222290635 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, i guess i'm wrong, but only a little bit. < 1222290640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/=/?/ < 1222290646 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: vincent connare < 1222290648 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :additionally < 1222290651 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comic sans is not bad < 1222290653 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just most uses < 1222290657 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :overwhelmingly mot uses < 1222290658 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*most < 1222290663 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for comics and similar... it's fine... < 1222290665 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what it's for. < 1222290671 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was designed for microsoft bob's interface text, heh < 1222290675 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, it's not bad, it's just useless ;-) < 1222290679 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which was all in speech bubbles) < 1222290683 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: if you don't make comics or similar, sure. < 1222290685 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1222290688 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mean actual comics < 1222290691 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but comic-esque graphics < 1222290695 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. speech bubbles < 1222290716 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do support banning comics sans though < 1222290721 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the human race has proved it can't get it right < 1222290722 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1222290776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like Bitstream Vera Sans Mono for anything fixed width, and Computer Modern for serif < 1222290793 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, also < 1222290796 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tahoma < 1222290796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for non-fixed sans serif I don't really favourite < 1222290799 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is... < 1222290801 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an abomination < 1222290808 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Guys! Let's combine MS Sans Serif and Verdana!" < 1222290810 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"GREAT IDEA" < 1222290814 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"*creates hideous monster*" < 1222290829 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily most of the fonts I have on here are ones tusho's never even heard of < 1222290840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh like? < 1222290843 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why, don't like my taste in fonts? :P < 1222290848 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I have the Linux versions of Arial and such that Microsoft distributed before they changed their minds < 1222290855 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes so do I < 1222290855 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :corefonts.sf.net < 1222290858 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still legally distributable < 1222290860 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes < 1222290862 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's those ones < 1222290878 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1222290883 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers overwriting crap fonts with good ones < 1222290884 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1222290901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : luckily most of the fonts I have on here are ones tusho's never even heard of <-- like what ones? < 1222290919 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: half of them aren't even for English < 1222290934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh you speak other languages? < 1222290937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1222290943 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Ubuntu supports other languages < 1222290952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the fonts to display all the languages it supports come by default < 1222290956 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got the "msttcorefonts" package installed also, even though it's non-free in the Debian sense. < 1222290961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, can't you deselect installing them < 1222290962 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the default ubuntu fonts... aren't very impressive < 1222290963 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really :P < 1222290968 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what if e wants to read another language page < 1222290971 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: I like this one < 1222290973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, what do you think of Baskerville? < 1222290976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's just called "Sans Serif" < 1222290981 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably not the real name of the font < 1222290985 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's bitstream < 1222290987 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vera sans < 1222290988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that maps to some system defined one yes < 1222290992 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'm not really a fan. < 1222290994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bitstream vera sans is nice < 1222290999 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the serifs are way too elaborate < 1222291004 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the 'a' and 'd' are really ugly. < 1222291013 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better italicized < 1222291014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, I just picked a random installed font < 1222291022 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: baskerville was designed in 1757 < 1222291022 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1222291045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, really I hardly use anything but Bitstream Vera Sans, Bitstream Vera Sans Mono, Helvetica, Times, Computer Modern < 1222291067 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"DejaVu Sans Mono" here for this IRC -- it's basically Bistream Vera Sans Mono with more characters done in the same style. < 1222291071 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes < 1222291074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes that true < 1222291082 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really dislike the bitstream fonts...to me they are hard to read and i seem to remember typographically they're not too hot either < 1222291085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is actually what i use for irc < 1222291087 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really like helvetica < 1222291094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1222291099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, URW Bookman? < 1222291105 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the font that's impossible to read when printed because the letters blend into each other? < 1222291121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what one? Helvetica? < 1222291123 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what, helvetica? < 1222291123 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1222291126 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no... < 1222291129 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :helvetica was designed in the 50s < 1222291132 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's iconic < 1222291134 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has a whole film about it < 1222291138 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, does anyone know if there are any commonly-used font formats that are Turing-complete? < 1222291140 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arial is the helvetica ripoff < 1222291141 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arial is a ripoff of helvetica < 1222291147 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1222291148 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because MS didn't want to pay the licensing fees < 1222291157 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helvetica < 1222291157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1222291160 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then the ancestor was Grotesque, or what? < 1222291168 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: akzidenz grotesk yeah < 1222291176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have helvetica as metafont or whatever but not true type < 1222291178 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1222291186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it exists in TeX but not as system font huh < 1222291193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho: yes, that's the font I was thinking of, it doesn't print well < 1222291194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait it does < 1222291197 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um < 1222291200 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was invented in print!! < 1222291210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, still < 1222291215 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the letters are too close to each other < 1222291219 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1222291221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I got helvetica, as bitmapped < 1222291222 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not a property of the typeface < 1222291231 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is an indication that someone used a too low leading < 1222291263 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you probably see helvetica tons every day, btw < 1222291270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you are a font geek you know ;P < 1222291280 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not exactly, tusho only likes Mac fonts < 1222291284 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what < 1222291289 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that...makes no sense < 1222291294 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah true < 1222291296 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the fonts i like most were invented for print < 1222291313 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just saying that because I like lucida grande and dislike bitstream... < 1222291325 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fyi, helvetica neue isn't bundled with anything but os x but it was invented independently) < 1222291325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, which are the ones bundled with mac.... coincidence? I think not < 1222291331 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what < 1222291333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes you are a mac fanboy < 1222291334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we all know < 1222291334 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no fucking sense < 1222291342 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like the typefaces because _i like the typefaces_ < 1222291359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, no if apple had selected bitstream vera you would like it < 1222291363 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1222291364 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no i wouldn't have < 1222291365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1222291371 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: [citation fucking needed] < 1222291371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was what ais523 said < 1222291376 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just saying it without base at all < 1222291381 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably it's the other way round, maybe Apple only select fonts they like the look of < 1222291382 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you too < 1222291385 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tusho has similar aesthetics < 1222291390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, it is based on your personality < 1222291392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and well < 1222291395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :citation: ais523 < 1222291400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now ais523 can cite me < 1222291401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1222291413 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have to admit I use Lucida Console at 8pt for IRC on the iBook. < 1222291428 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: don't ever complain when i help other people and don't help you, why the hell should i help someone who only ever makes baseless accusations based on a completely false stereotype of me. < 1222291432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucida is just crappy < 1222291439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have some lucida here iirc < 1222291455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, citation: ais523 < 1222291459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not baseless < 1222291461 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you only say that because you like free things! < 1222291470 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was licensed under a free license, you'd love lucida! < 1222291478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, yes and I don't deny it, though I really don't like lucida < 1222291481 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: based on your personality. < 1222291487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do like arial better than lucida < 1222291490 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and arial isn't open either < 1222291502 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really care about fonts all that much, so I generally use the free ones for practical reasons < 1222291508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, same < 1222291513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Computer Modern rocks < 1222291514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1222291546 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i care about baseless, offensive accusations without base made to me by AnMaster while he complains whenever i do the same. < 1222291547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Latin Modern to get vector based fonts instead of pre-rendered bitmapped < 1222291570 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, it is fine when you admit it < 1222291583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue is that you try to deny it < 1222291587 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why the hell should i admit something that isn't true? < 1222291603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well [citation: ais523] < 1222291604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1222291609 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you lack humor < 1222291612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1222291640 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION still fails to understand why AnMaster and tusho seem to hate each other so much < 1222291645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tusho, you could have laughed it off and it would never had got to this point < 1222291645 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ, AnMaster is such a fucking hypocrite. can't say anything without him accusing me of apple fanboyism or whatever. someone call me when he's stopped talking and hiding everything under the guise of "but it was a joke! nevr mind taht it had no properties of a joke and wasn't funny, it was because i said so!". bye. < 1222291646 0 :tusho!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1222291649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need some humor < 1222291665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well I know he is log reading < 1222291704 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and yes I fail to understand why tusho hates me so much as well < 1222291708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it make no sense < 1222291723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no problems with him when he isn't angry < 1222292241 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1222292890 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | oh wow < 1222293619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all < 1222293621 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1222295057 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1222295067 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-091-096-037-066.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1222295532 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: (display 5)(newline) < 1222295532 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: where is the keyboard-plug converter < 1222296084 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1222297545 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1222297619 0 :ais523_!n=ais523@sm01-fap04.bham.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1222297632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1222297661 0 :ais523_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ais523 < 1222299051 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1222299210 0 :oc2k1!n=oc2k1@p5B106E9C.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1222299242 0 :oc2k1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more people :D < 1222299295 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRAINS.. < 1222299475 0 :oc2k1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be possible to build an esoteric computer with only a for logic IC and some cache SRams (i.E. 64k x8) ? < 1222299615 0 :oc2k1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A tape would be possible with a 16 bit updown counter and one SRam, but loading a program could be a small problem...