< 1223856018 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/files/brainfuck/util/textgen.java < 1223857207 0 :g0bl1n!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, how can i run it ? linux here < 1223858288 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... it's Java. < 1223858886 0 :g0bl1n!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i try to run it with gij-4.1 but get an error < 1223859262 0 :dmb!n=dmb@unaffiliated/dmb JOIN :#esoteric < 1223860358 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"bye" < 1223860496 0 :dmb_!n=dmb@74.214.107.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1223860520 0 :dmb_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1223860988 0 :dmb!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1223862290 0 :g0bl1n!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, the textgen.java gets results worst then me :) < 1223862555 0 :g0bl1n!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine: 141 bytes. textgen, till now: 159 < 1223862956 0 :g0bl1n!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, thank you < 1223863003 0 :g0bl1n!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1223863769 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I'm a glutton for punishment. I'm remerging my system to change my CFLAGS. < 1223864623 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're using Gentoo? You're right, you are a glutton for punishment. < 1223864633 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You enjoy that immeasurably tiny speedup though. < 1223865837 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally I don't care much about the CFLAGS... < 1223865869 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, I have recently come of the opinion that -Os instead of -O2 will be faster (due to my small cache and slow hard drive), though. < 1223865904 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And figured 'well, -Os is one of those CFLAGS that's actually sane to use, and it's not like recompiling is that big of a deal; why not?' < 1223865920 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I started the whole thing, and realised that that'll take a few days. < 1223866229 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿˙ < 1223866229 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O <(Look, it's iChat on IRC!) < 1223866586 0 :kwertii!n=kwertii@c-71-202-121-102.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1223867225 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | what 'x = x and y (boolean)' does? < 1223869712 0 :immibis!n=immibis@125-236-142-205.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1223869716 0 :toBogE!n=toBogE@125-236-142-205.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1223874523 0 :toBogE!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1223874706 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Hi Im a qit msg virus. Pls rplce ur old qit msg wit tis 1 & hlp me tk ovr th wrld of IRC. and dlte ur files. and email ths to < 1223876329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1223878256 0 :ab5tract!n=ab5tract@pool-71-246-5-13.phlapa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1223878792 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1223878839 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1223883055 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1223883380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, there? < 1223883389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, seems c-intercal was added to portage(!) < 1223883569 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!! < 1223883602 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congrats, ais523. < 1223883645 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And AnMaster, congrats on having an ebuild in Portage. < 1223883870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other news I had to hit reset button first thing this morning < 1223883874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even sysrq was dead < 1223883891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is on the computer with the bnc < 1223884799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1223884800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1223886435 0 :ab5tract!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1223887168 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :xor < 1223887313 0 :xor!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :bsmntbombdood < 1223887469 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :xor_ < 1223888825 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | I'm preparing a Giki 1.5.0 release. < 1223890236 0 :kwertii!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"night" < 1223891657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot < 1223891657 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: nothing really < 1223891658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1223891659 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | hm? < 1223893456 0 :oklocod!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1223893599 0 :oklocod!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1223893603 0 :oklocod!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1223898673 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that i actually read how subleq works, i gotta wonder, can't you traverse memory? < 1223898704 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, to construct a list, you will need to encode it in a register using some weird modulo system? < 1223898717 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that basically means the memory is mostly useless computationally < 1223898730 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just as easily have just one memory cell < 1223898756 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you're the expert, perhaps you'll tell me where i went wrong < 1223898770 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um you just use pointers, one per cell? < 1223898817 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but aren't all commands just a list of absolute references to the memory? < 1223898833 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. but the commands are modifiable. < 1223898834 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subleq is a simple one instruction language. Each subleq instruction has 3 operands: < 1223898834 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A B C < 1223898834 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are memory addresses. Execution of one instruction A B C subtracts the value of memory in A from the content of memory in B. If value after subtraction in B less or equal to zero, then execution jumps to the address C; otherwise to the next instruction. < 1223898838 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh! < 1223898861 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The instructions themselves reside in memory as a sequence of such integers." < 1223898876 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you, although that was so obvious i should technically kill everyone of you < 1223898883 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1223898924 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read just the beginning, i like to get confused, ask, and let others read the rest of the text for me. < 1223899059 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i kinda wanna play with that < 1223899065 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there a good way of commenting Befunge? I'd like to have some sort of system which would let me attach comments to arbitrary sets of funge-space locations, and then when I edit the file to move things around the comments should move too. < 1223899097 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, some kinda befunge gui? < 1223899108 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just befunge editor < 1223899111 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lieek < 1223899159 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be reasonably content with a simple editor. Either graphical or curses-style, although I guess a GUI thing would have more options for indicating the presence of comments. < 1223899208 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you could have them float around, you know, and perhaps tell you what exactly you're looking at as you're glancing through the code < 1223899222 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like a friend than an editor really. < 1223899241 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a "lecture", see you -> < 1223899522 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FungeFriend might be a good name for a Befunge IDE. < 1223899538 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe it sounds too much like a fungal infection? < 1223899755 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1223899772 0 :oklocod!n=nnscript@sparkgw.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1223900170 0 :oklocod!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungefriend sounds nice < 1223900174 0 :oklocod!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1223901639 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Argh" < 1223902383 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1223905854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1223905939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He be offline. < 1223905940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oddly. < 1223906185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lost the game < 1223906541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I wonder where he is too < 1223906550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Doing things other than talking on IRC> < 1223906553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a hunch. < 1223906560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah probably... < 1223906572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes people do things. :P < 1223906605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well all the time < 1223906618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite. < 1223906653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if nothing else, as long as you are alive, you perform the action of existing. < 1223906673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shut up. < 1223906700 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1223906713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably one of sit, stand, walk, crawl, lie (and so on).. < 1223906721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.$// < 1223906870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man < 1223906872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add-art < 1223906874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a great extension < 1223906876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it replaces ads with art < 1223906886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't I think of that? < 1223906895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://add-art.org/ < 1223907125 0 :oklocod!n=nnscript@a91-153-123-88.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1223907359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, art as in famous paintings? < 1223907368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. < 1223907382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does have it on the site, you know, but I haven't checked it out. < 1223907387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pic on the main page seems to just replace it with the text art < 1223907400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was an example. < 1223907405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, rbrb. < 1223907418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rbrb? < 1223907425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really be back soon? < 1223907447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really be right back I meant < 1223907460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe rather < 1223907704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am green < 1223909209 0 :oklocod!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm black < 1223909214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :racis < 1223909214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1223909231 0 :oklocod!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not talking about skin color < 1223909236 0 :oklocod!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :oklopol < 1223909239 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike you < 1223910425 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | !kill 1 < 1223912949 0 :boily!n=boily@bas2-quebec14-1096645070.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1223912953 0 :ENKI-][!n=weechat@c-71-234-190-248.hsd1.ct.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1223913878 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :riddle of the day < 1223913890 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :four fish, one is green, the other is yellow, what's 2+2? < 1223913898 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's harder than you think < 1223914236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 4 < 1223914260 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, try again < 1223914277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 5 < 1223914285 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1223914289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: fish < 1223914295 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1223914301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 2+2 < 1223914304 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1223914305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1223914306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got you ther < 1223914306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1223914308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1223914311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: NO < 1223914315 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS RIDDLE HAS NO ANSWER, STOP ANSWERING < 1223914327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: NO < 1223914345 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm aiming for a boy-who-cried the wolf situation. for the next N days i'm going to give you a riddle, each more ridiculous than the next < 1223914346 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1223914366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but?? < 1223914370 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them, is actually so great, so deep, that if you actually tried to solve it, you'd absolutely love it < 1223914376 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd go craaaaazy < 1223914379 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1223914381 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a good way < 1223914382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i'll do it < 1223914389 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no one will ever know which one it is < 1223914399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i will ASSEMBLE A COMMITTEE TO SOLVE IT < 1223914425 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because to be able to find out which one is the great one, you'd have to try and solve all of them, which is kinda stupid, because most of the time you'd just be searching for nothing. < 1223914433 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :committee?!? < 1223914435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but committee < 1223914438 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god < 1223914442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah < 1223914443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ha < 1223914445 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have just defeated me < 1223914446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i have defeated you < 1223914447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now < 1223914448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1223914449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1223914450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we agree < 1223914452 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1223914453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much for THAT IDEA < 1223914462 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck it, i'm gonna get a real job < 1223914469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;\ < 1223914765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: does anyone play the counter any more < 1223914860 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i don't know, because i don't. < 1223914865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1223914868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when did you las tplay < 1223914906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1223915037 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-33-69.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1223915057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 5 years ago?????? < 1223915638 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.132 JOIN :#esoteric < 1223915916 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, you silly gangster < 1223916567 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1223916810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1223917060 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird < 1223917223 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1223917231 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-51-183.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1223917234 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unchurched" or "The Unchurched" or "unchurched people" is defined by the Barna Group as "an adult (18 or older) who has not attended a Christian church service within the past six months" excluding special services such as Easter, Christmas, weddings or funerals.Barna reports there are 75 million "unchurched people" in the United States as of 2004. < 1223917244 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And me using it to mean convert lambdas into numbers! < 1223917270 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I have several hundred emails to read through < 1223917276 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm likely to be uncommunicative for a bit < 1223917292 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I got your /query though, I'll make sure it's fixed before the release < 1223917335 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img.4chan.org/r9k/src/1223888838875.jpg < 1223917340 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Joe Biden sure can yield logic < 1223917365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh and c-intercal got into portage < 1223917417 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I noticed < 1223917982 0 :slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-51-183.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1223917982 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1223918118 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-51-183.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1223918118 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1223918602 0 :boily!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1223918658 0 :slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1223919401 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1223920654 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1223920662 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1223921192 0 :slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1223921192 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1223921915 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-031-154.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1223922011 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1223922011 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1223922371 0 :slereah!n=butt@ANantes-252-1-39-168.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1223922371 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1223923254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so you left again? < 1223923256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1223923263 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I'm still here < 1223923269 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just busy catching up on email < 1223923283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* [ais523] is away (Gone away for now.) < 1223923285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1223923293 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid away checker < 1223923296 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also how can you get that much email? < 1223923302 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: being subscribed to three nomics < 1223923314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, maybe that isn't a good thing :P < 1223923324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also, what ones? < 1223923333 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agora, B Nomic, FRC < 1223923339 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also in two others, but they aren't email nomics < 1223923390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think you may be too much active what that if it takes so much of your free time < 1223923418 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't, just a few hours every Monday to catch up on the weekend < 1223923442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how goes gcc-bf btw? < 1223923469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stalled < 1223923472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while I do other things < 1223923478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah stil. < 1223923479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still* < 1223923480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was working on C-INTERCAL a bit recently, though < 1223923484 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me push the changes < 1223923491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, anything major new? < 1223923500 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed some of the bugs you reported < 1223923524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah like -F? < 1223923526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I implemented an optimisation for gerund abstention that Joris sent me months ago < 1223923531 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not the -F one yet < 1223923540 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was mostly the build process bugs to do with not cross-compiling < 1223923557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if you aren't cross-compiling your CC and CFLAGS last through the whole compilation < 1223923557 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also I don't know if it still affects you with new build system, but some gentoo developer made a patch to ensure make -j2 and higher works < 1223923559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not at runtime < 1223923573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the new build system works fine with -j2 < 1223923577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rafb.net/p/jYiUEc56.html < 1223923580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the patch anyway < 1223923624 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok, just the old lex/yacc dependencies patch < 1223923631 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automake does that automatically, so I didn't have to think about it < 1223923636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, wasn't in the last release anyway < 1223923642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it wasn't < 1223923651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it fixed itself incidentally in trunk, though < 1223923656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1223923680 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I learnt about the lex/yacc dependencies trick from the Automake doc < 1223923688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1223923715 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1223923720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how to generate the .c and .h in a way that's safe in a parallel make < 1223923728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that lex and yacc output at the wrong filename < 1223923740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it seems to be a command line parameter < 1223923742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do so < 1223923760 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ah, that doesn't work portably < 1223923763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they did half the fix < 1223923776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, obviously what was needed for gentoo toolchain < 1223923779 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the other half would work on Gentoo, presumably, who knows their own lex/yacc versions < 1223923786 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not on SunOS, for instance < 1223923793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yeah it is the gnu toolchain < 1223923801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so bison and flex < 1223923847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pulling from "http://code.eso-std.org/c-intercal/"... < 1223923847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No remote changes to pull in! < 1223923853 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits for ais523 to push
< 1223923858 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1223923878 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've pushed now < 1223923997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, my computer with the collection of compilers is currently off. < 1223924002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it runs 32-bit arch < 1223924008 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1223924012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION test builds on his amd64 anyway
< 1223924013 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's only half fixed < 1223924020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, which one? < 1223924028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should build fine < 1223924035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which one is only half-fixed? < 1223924035 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think it still defaults to using gcc at runtime < 1223924036 0 :ab5tract!n=ab5tract@pool-71-246-5-13.phlapa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1223924052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok < 1223924059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that would be easy < 1223924062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like: < 1223924064 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I fixed the ar thing too < 1223924071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-DCC="$(CC)" < 1223924076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in AM_CFLAGS < 1223924078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever it is < 1223924080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPPFLAGS < 1223924082 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1223924082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1223924086 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except for stringising < 1223924088 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a pain < 1223924094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ok < 1223924095 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sec < 1223924098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what if there are backslashes or double quotes in the compiler name? < 1223924101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-DCC="\"$(CC)\"" < 1223924102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there? < 1223924112 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : what if there are backslashes or double quotes in the compiler name? < 1223924114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah , what about using the # operator then? < 1223924115 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such as < 1223924122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I was planning to do it using # < 1223924127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy but not trivial < 1223924136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define REALCC #CC < 1223924138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think? < 1223924160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work < 1223924163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that defines it to #CC < 1223924165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"CC" < 1223924170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah a space? < 1223924172 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1223924175 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is a trick to make it work, I just have to look it up < 1223924179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how is it done then? < 1223924179 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it involves using more than one macro < 1223924183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1223924184 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and passing things round as arguments < 1223924193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1223924194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either that, or I could just use sed < 1223924199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1223924209 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, does that exist on all platforms you support? < 1223924225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also do you support MSVC? Considering you seem to support everything else < 1223924238 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tested on MSVC yet < 1223924247 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't interact well with a POSIX build process < 1223924250 0 :ENKI-][!n=weechat@c-71-234-190-248.hsd1.ct.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1223924251 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the computers at Uni have it < 1223924253 0 :slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1223924257 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I may make a batch file to use it correctly < 1223924266 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the files themself should compile with MSVC just fine < 1223924355 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION reboots their computer
< 1223924358 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be back soon, though < 1223924648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ok < 1223924659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing: msvc would need a project file I think? < 1223924662 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1223924665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for visual studio crap < 1223924667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or? < 1223924672 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if you just used cl < 1223924676 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to compile the files command-line style < 1223924676 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1223924680 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I generally use cl rather than the IDE < 1223924687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even when working on a visual-studio-only prokect < 1223924694 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I like the command line < 1223924701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I know cfunge won't compile with that. Since it is C99 < 1223924719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cygwin does apparently work if you try hard enough < 1223924727 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't be surprised < 1223924728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :minus some extensions < 1223924734 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just gcc with a different backend, after all < 1223924735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't support it < 1223924754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well iirc some defines or such were missing < 1223924763 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that I relied on for checking that a feature existed < 1223924780 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's generally a bad idea, autoconf is better at detecting features than looking for defines < 1223924790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean POSIX says a certain header should define a certain define with a certain value if a feature is supported < 1223924793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I trust it < 1223924797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the standard < 1223924811 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there might be something that isn't POSIX < 1223924814 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but supports the feature anyway < 1223924828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if implementations support those features but don't define the defines then any user of that system should report a bug < 1223924849 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i once attempted a flex lexxer for bf -> x86 asm (nasm syntax). it might still be around if you're interested. < 1223924850 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no yacc involved though < 1223924854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_POSIX_MAPPED_FILES < 1223924864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a value larger than 0 < 1223924866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ^ < 1223924874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to indicate support for mmap() munmap() < 1223924875 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENKI-][: BF is one of the few languages simple enough that you can compile it with just lex < 1223924885 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but given that BF lexers are so simple, you don't need lex really < 1223924886 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1223924893 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1223924899 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've written esolangs that compiled with just lex < 1223924900 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1223924909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : MF - _POSIX_MAPPED_FILES - _SC_MAPPED_FILES < 1223924909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Shared memory is supported. The include file is present. The following functions are present: mmap(), msync(), mun- < 1223924909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : map(). < 1223924912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ^ < 1223924914 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, i've written esolangs that used lex as an interpreter too < 1223924915 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1223924919 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hi oerjan < 1223924924 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the hard part is looping < 1223924929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENKI-][, are you new here? < 1223924933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just a new nick? < 1223924942 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't spoken in here much before < 1223924947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1223924948 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hemskt mycket hej < 1223924967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ENKI-][: BF is one of the few languages simple enough that you can compile it with just lex < 1223924967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : but given that BF lexers are so simple, you don't need lex really < 1223924968 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1223924974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wrote a recursive parser < 1223924976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I did it < 1223924979 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1223924996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using even flex seemed like overkill < 1223924999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hah < 1223925004 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tend to just combine lex with copious flags and ignore yacc < 1223925016 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do that, even more complex languages are doable < 1223925022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENKI-][, seems like overkill, when all you need is a switch case really < 1223925027 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION downloads a 4D flight simulator
< 1223925030 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is teh retro
< 1223925033 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, 4D? < 1223925035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean < 1223925039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not static? < 1223925040 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though i'd actually quite like a better lexer < 1223925042 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1223925045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean four-dimensional < 1223925050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, then that includes all of them < 1223925058 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: meh. i prefer not to have to tokenize 100% < 1223925061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, unless you hit the pause feature < 1223925067 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: four space dimensions < 1223925075 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENKI-][, err, you hardly need that for bf < 1223925077 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: but i think i rewrote that bf compiler in pure c first < 1223925088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENKI-][, I build the tree, reading one symbol at a time < 1223925094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I mmap() it all < 1223925096 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i've written other stuff with flex compilers though. < 1223925100 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then use that to read from < 1223925113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, such a sim exists? < 1223925117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ENKI-][, well just overkill for bf < 1223925121 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1223925125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, link? < 1223925127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I haven't used it yet < 1223925134 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading the docs atm < 1223925138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, link? < 1223925139 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the link is apt-get adanaxisgpl < 1223925151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't particularly useful to someone not on Debian or a derivative < 1223925154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, indeed < 1223925157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I'm not < 1223925159 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also wrote the implementation of a network protocol as a flex lexxer, hooking into a kind of flattened list-of-lists < 1223925163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, can't you query package manager for url? < 1223925165 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be possible to make an infinite-dimensional one. might be hard to find anything else in it though... < 1223925168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on gentoo that is dead easy < 1223925170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same on arch < 1223925173 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that was megas buggy < 1223925181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries
< 1223925186 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mushware.com/ < 1223925198 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :N.B. I haven't visited that site < 1223925206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's recorded as the homepage in the package < 1223925228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, seems like there is a commercial one too < 1223925235 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1223925245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for $18.95 < 1223925299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also that says space shooter, not flight sim < 1223925302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very very different < 1223925303 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : even if nothing else, as long as you are alive, you perform the action of existing. < 1223925310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a flight sim most likely lack usable guns < 1223925317 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes < 1223925323 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :misread it < 1223925323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it simulates *flight* in *air* < 1223925329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not space shooting < 1223925333 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a space shooter is a flight sim too, though, just with weapons < 1223925340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and in space < 1223925344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no areodymaics < 1223925345 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think there are philosophical problems with considering existence an action or property < 1223925349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spelling.... < 1223925366 0 :ab5tract!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1223925367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh? < 1223925383 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a flawed proof of God based on it, i think < 1223925403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, a flight sim should have accurate aerodynamics. Many aircraft fighter games I have seen fail totally at that < 1223925416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, while a flight sim does it properly < 1223925416 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, God is by definition perfect, so has every positive property, including existence, QED. < 1223925435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that doesn't work for other reasons < 1223925439 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't exist. < 1223925446 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXTERNISM FTW < 1223925456 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's flawed even without the flaw you mentioned < 1223925456 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1223925457 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1223925469 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :externism is the opposite of nihilism < 1223925469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :define X to be an odd perfect number that exists. < 1223925472 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1223925476 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By definition, X exists < 1223925477 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the opposite of solipism rather < 1223925479 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so there is an odd perfect number < 1223925490 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything exists but the self < 1223925494 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: um that _was_ the flaw i mentioned < 1223925509 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ah, I thought you were talking about the flaw being that existence wasn't a property < 1223925519 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1223925576 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the flaw is that all you've proved is that if God exists, God exists < 1223925579 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a tautology < 1223925586 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, in fact I can't find any gpl download for that project < 1223925592 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the argument you give does not contradict the possibility that God does not exist < 1223925596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: strange < 1223925606 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think they'd advertise their GPL download too, seeing as it exists < 1223925610 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe they wouldn't in the hope you'd pay < 1223925627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, can't find it anyway, maybe they changed license < 1223925636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it seems it is a one man company, says so on front page < 1223925639 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so him it seems < 1223925648 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well obviously there are several ways of looking at it, but some philosophers have considered that the flaw in the argument is considering existence a property < 1223925675 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thomas aquinas has a similar 'proof' that was a bit better, but that will probably end up with something very un-godlike < 1223925681 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's something like < 1223925714 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god is the best. if there's something better, it's not god. when you reach the end, it's god. the universe is finite, so there must be something that's best. < 1223925730 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that makes so much sense < 1223925744 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but does that mean that if i value chocolate cakes over everything in the universe, the best chocolate cake i've ever had is god? < 1223925748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm < 1223925749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mushware.com/viewtopic.php?p=352 < 1223925771 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION watches lain
< 1223925772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1223925773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For Linux, a GPL version of this game is available, which lacks the commercially-sourced graphical and audio content present in the non-GPL version. Use the Change Listing box above and select Linux/GPL only to view it. < 1223925774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1223925802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, tell me if it is worth it < 1223925811 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried it yet < 1223925814 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably won't today < 1223925818 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'll let you know later if you like < 1223925831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mushware.com/album_showpage.php?pic_id=8 < 1223925834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshots look cool < 1223927326 0 :atrapado!i=ro@cm36185.red83-165.mundo-r.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1223927337 0 :ab5tract!n=ab5tract@pool-71-246-5-13.phlapa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1223927722 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1223928454 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1223928535 0 :ENKI-][!n=weechat@c-71-234-190-248.hsd1.ct.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1223929167 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r01jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1223932026 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :the entire backlog of #esoteric: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric | looks cool, but light on th CPU < 1223932284 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1223932832 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1223935537 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1223935608 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the newbies discovered the undergrad mailing list :( < 1223935615 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, that sounds bad < 1223935618 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it moderated? < 1223935622 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all < 1223935664 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so far there's been random chit-chat, "who are you and why are you sending me email, I don't know you", people signing up to myspace, and BBC gardening newsletters < 1223935677 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear... < 1223935697 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course the all-time favourite, "STOP SPAMMING THE MAILING LIST!" sent to the entire mailing list. < 1223935700 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is as bad as the day about 8 people posted SWORDFISH to what is normally a low-traffic mailing list < 1223937058 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION enjoys his oh-so-exclusive graduate mailing list :P
< 1223937169 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Abandonando" < 1223939797 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sort of like the time that chinese and korean spammers and sourceforge ad partners discovered the development group for a project with only 3 members on google groups, and decided to try to outdo each other, three years after the project disbanded < 1223939837 0 :ENKI-][!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i had to look up the password and close the group < 1223940849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Barack_Obama < 1223940863 0 :Barack_Obama!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1223941986 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1223941988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and night