00:35:30 -!- mib_c2zegu has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client").
00:52:49 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined.
01:07:45 -!- LinuS has quit ("Puzzi. Sė, parlo proprio con te. Puzzi.").
01:12:26 <oklopol> "soon. yes, i will speak better than you. soon"
01:25:09 -!- psygnisfive has joined.
01:31:44 <oklopol> WELL LOOK WHO CAME BACK
01:32:02 <oklopol> i knew you'd come CRAWLING back
01:32:10 <oklopol> ...i mean hi
01:32:32 <ais523> hi oklopol
01:32:35 <ais523> and hi psygnisfive too
01:34:26 <psygnisfive> sup you
01:36:23 <ais523> I've been working on gcc-bf over the holidays
01:36:36 <ais523> it now reaches the stage where it generates buggy programs that don't work, as opposed to broken programs that don't run
01:36:55 <oklopol> i want a language where all code is written with either examples (kinda like in aardappel), or code; actual code could be like haskell's types, usually inferred, but you could fill it in explicitly where it's nontrivial
01:37:37 <ais523> hmm... you've just given me an idea for an esolang
01:37:41 <ais523> instead of telling it what to do
01:37:46 <ais523> you give it some inputs and some related outputs
01:37:52 <ais523> and it figures out what to do based on those
01:38:11 <oklopol> yes, but there should be ways to fill in the insides too
01:39:02 <oklopol> just giving general constraints like that will not actually amount to anything in practise, you should somehow be able to give it a bag of functions "that might be useful"
01:39:13 <oklopol> that it could then use to try to find something that fits the io-pairs
01:39:34 <oklopol> and these functions would be done the same way of course
01:40:33 <oklopol> for sorting, you might make a merge and a cut, and give it the bag {merge cut <recursion>}
01:40:40 <oklopol> and then just give a few pairs
01:41:27 <oklopol> basically you'd just do the "abstraction" step of making functions
01:41:46 <oklopol> and let the computer find the exact connections
02:10:11 -!- ais523 has quit.
02:14:49 -!- Asztal has joined.
03:10:24 <oklopol> o
03:19:29 <oklopol> damn ais523 and his leavings
03:19:40 <oklopol> IF YOU'RE READING THIS, COME BACK AT ONCE.
03:54:44 <psygnisfive> HEY EVERYBODY
03:54:49 <psygnisfive> GUESS WHAT TIIIIME IT IS
03:54:52 <psygnisfive> THATS RIGHT
03:54:56 <psygnisfive> ITS TIME TO DANCE!
03:55:00 * psygnisfive dances
03:55:08 <Sgeo> o|-<
03:55:14 <psygnisfive> no
03:55:16 * psygnisfive smacks sgeo
03:55:31 <Sgeo> o>-<
03:56:59 <oklopol> i can't dance, i have nnscript :<
03:57:07 <Sgeo> nnscript?
03:57:12 <oklopol> it's a mirc thing
03:57:57 <oklopol> so. wanna see my current mergesort?
03:58:08 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Remote closed the connection).
03:58:24 <oklopol> i'll show it anyway, also for ais523 in case he reads the logs
03:58:25 <oklopol> shortlist ~ cutlast,[] : []>1;[4]>1;[6 7]>0
03:58:25 <oklopol> halve ~ cutfirst,cutlast,halve,prepend,append,shortlist : []>[],[];[1]>[],[1]|[1],[];[1 2]>[1],[2];[1 2 3 4]>[1 2],[3 4]
03:58:25 <oklopol> merge ~ cutfirst,lessthan,cutfirst,prepend,[] : [],[]>[];[3],[]>[3];[3],[2]>[2 3];[1 3],[2]>[1 2 3]
03:58:25 <oklopol> sort ~ merge,halve,sort,[] : []>[];[2]>[2];[2 3]>[2 3];[1]>[1];[3 1]>[1 3];[3]>[3];[2 3 1]>[1 2 3]
03:58:52 <oklopol> this is the concise syntax, i have a prettier one as well, but this should bring the point across
03:59:03 <oklopol> name ~ function bag : examples
03:59:31 <oklopol> examples are ;-separated, in>out, "," separates tuples, | for alternatives
04:00:29 <oklopol> also i found a way to get recursion and other reference cycles to work
04:01:30 -!- CakeProphet has joined.
04:02:21 <oklopol> the gist is to have a whole recursion tree in the examples
04:02:51 <oklopol> meaning say you have the [1 3],[2]>[1 2 3] as one of merge's examples
04:03:33 <oklopol> you'd then also put [3],[2]>[2 3] and [3],[]>[3]
04:03:49 <oklopol> because that's how merge should recurse
04:04:25 <oklopol> it both hints the interp towards the right algo, and makes it tractable to check whether the current solution is right
04:09:48 <oklopol> also cookies
04:19:25 <oklopol> supercookies.
04:19:27 <oklopol> sleepy time ->
05:14:03 -!- Asztal has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
06:43:48 -!- GregorR_ has joined.
06:43:54 -!- GregorR has quit (Nick collision from services.).
06:43:58 -!- GregorR_ has changed nick to GregorR.
06:51:02 -!- Corun has joined.
07:27:36 <psygnisfive> lulz
07:27:40 <psygnisfive> i love haskellians
07:32:07 -!- Sgeo has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended).
08:00:00 -!- clog has joined.
08:15:30 -!- Corun has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep").
08:23:26 -!- psygnisfive has changed nick to augur.
08:23:38 -!- augur has changed nick to psygnisfive.
08:36:38 -!- oerjan has joined.
09:04:09 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("You only need one wheel. Bikers are just greedy.").
09:06:53 -!- Corun has joined.
09:35:58 -!- SpaceManPlusPlus has joined.
09:36:45 -!- SpaceManPlusPlus has quit (Client Quit).
09:41:37 -!- SpaceManPlusPlus has joined.
09:41:42 -!- SpaceManPlusPlus has quit (Client Quit).
12:02:48 -!- Judofyr has joined.
12:24:25 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving").
13:45:05 -!- mib_7pojqg has joined.
13:45:08 <mib_7pojqg> grrrrrrrrrrr
13:50:28 -!- Judofyr has quit.
14:46:04 -!- ais523 has joined.
14:56:25 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined.
15:00:49 <mib_7pojqg> great, I have no drives that can rip pregaps.
15:02:49 <mib_7pojqg> :|
15:14:57 -!- mib_7pojqg has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client").
15:21:15 -!- mib_ub9ay1 has joined.
15:26:40 -!- Mony has joined.
15:28:00 <Mony> plop
15:31:29 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection).
15:35:14 <mib_ub9ay1> "[...]so you can choose your preferred tradeoff between efficiency and being able to look at yourself in the mirror the next morning."
15:40:36 -!- Judofyr has joined.
16:08:19 <oklopol> what's that from
16:08:24 <mib_ub9ay1> reddit comment
16:08:30 <oklopol> about piracy?
16:08:32 <mib_ub9ay1> no
16:08:36 <oklopol> sex?
16:08:38 <mib_ub9ay1> something to do with algorithms of polygons
16:08:38 <mib_ub9ay1> and shit.
16:08:42 <oklopol> ...
16:08:43 <oklopol> :D
16:08:49 <mib_ub9ay1> oklopol: here:
16:08:52 <mib_ub9ay1> http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7m108/ask_proggit_how_can_i_quickly_determine_which/5jik
16:09:29 <oklopol> oooooooo
16:20:04 <oklopol> o
16:20:05 <oklopol> o
16:20:06 <oklopol> o
16:20:12 <mib_ub9ay1> oko
16:21:40 -!- Asztal has joined.
16:23:52 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
16:31:21 <oklopol> i can't say i understand it though
16:40:34 <mib_ub9ay1> :)
16:42:50 <oklopol> why exactly is it easier to look yourself in the mirror if you make things inefficient?
16:43:23 <oklopol> i mean heefficiency
16:43:25 <oklopol> ...
16:43:30 <mib_ub9ay1> oklopol: because the efficient algorithms are scary and black magicy and you'll feel dirty the day after.
16:43:34 <oklopol> *long typo correction to come
16:43:36 <oklopol> oh.
16:43:46 <oklopol> well right, didn't really see it that way
16:44:08 <oklopol> *no correction, would take too long
16:54:17 <mib_ub9ay1> "A Rare Blend of Monster Raving Egomania and Utter Batshit Insanity" -- on Wolfram-ANewKindofScience, http://www.cscs.umich.edu/~crshalizi/reviews/wolfram/
17:01:26 -!- oerjan has joined.
17:03:08 <oerjan> <oklopol> why exactly is it easier to look yourself in the mirror if you make things inefficient?
17:03:36 <oerjan> premature optimization?  something something dijkstra
17:04:00 <ais523> The first rule of optimisation is "Don't do it."
17:04:07 <ais523> The second rule of optimisation is "Don't do it yet."
17:04:30 <ais523> (The third rule is "Don't do it until you've carefully profiled your programs to find out where the bottlenecks are and what needs optimising", but that one isn't as snappy)
17:06:00 <oerjan> that's because the third rule is an optimization of the first two, obviously
17:07:32 <mib_ub9ay1> ais523: this is lost on AnMaster :)
17:08:31 * oerjan wonders where the "something something" meme comes from.
17:08:44 <AnMaster> hm?
17:08:47 <ais523> I didn't even realise it was a meme
17:09:11 <oerjan> i just used and realized i'd seen it before
17:09:15 <oerjan> *it
17:09:18 <AnMaster> hah
17:09:20 <AnMaster> right
17:09:35 <AnMaster> about the third phase
17:09:43 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, no it wasn't lost on me
17:09:46 <mib_ub9ay1> no, about all of them :P
17:10:26 <oerjan> the hits for "something something meme" seem to be uses, not explanations
17:10:37 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, none of them were lost on me, it is just that if your *goal* is as much speed as possible then you have to think about it early on.
17:10:52 <AnMaster> most C programs I write are nothing like that
17:10:57 <AnMaster> bbl
17:10:59 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: I'm pretty sure the first rule covers that by telling you speed shouldn't be your goa.
17:11:00 <mib_ub9ay1> l
17:11:10 <ais523> incidentally, I have had to use all 3 before
17:11:23 <ais523> managed to speed up a program by a factor of about 10, because it was running unacceptably slow beforehand
17:11:28 <ais523> it was still annoying having to do it, though
17:11:45 <mib_ub9ay1> what lang
17:11:51 <ais523> Perl
17:11:54 <ais523> it was my new AI for TAEB
17:12:04 <mib_ub9ay1> in cases like that, before optimizing i'd rewrite as a c extension
17:12:08 <mib_ub9ay1> altho apparently that's painful with per
17:12:09 <mib_ub9ay1> l
17:12:19 <ais523> mib_ub9ay1: well, it was heavily object-oriented
17:12:19 <mib_ub9ay1> but it's easier to write simple c and have it faster than optimized perl, I'd wager
17:12:34 <ais523> it wouldn't work at all well in C without rewriting the entire program in C
17:12:48 -!- Judofyr has joined.
17:13:00 <mib_ub9ay1> perl has an extension api, no?
17:13:05 <ais523> yes, it does
17:13:08 <ais523> you obviously haven't seen it
17:13:12 <mib_ub9ay1> yes, I know
17:13:14 <ais523> it basically exposes the internals of Perl to C programs
17:13:14 <mib_ub9ay1> that's why I wouldn't use perl.
17:13:27 <ais523> which makes it good for different sorts of extensions from the sorts you're thinking of
17:13:47 <ais523> anyway, how would you, say, write an extension for object-oriented Python or Ruby in C?
17:14:18 <mib_ub9ay1> by using their clean, simple, well-thought-out API.
17:14:33 <ais523> the problem is that much of the slowness was in the objects I was calling
17:14:34 <Asztal> I don't think "clean" applies to Ruby's API
17:14:41 <mib_ub9ay1> Asztal: compared to XS?
17:14:43 <mib_ub9ay1> fuck yeah.
17:14:49 <mib_ub9ay1> or whatever perl call their api
17:14:53 <ais523> the bits of Perl I wrote weren't particularly slow
17:15:01 <ais523> they were calling slow things outside themselves, though
17:15:17 <ais523> such as trying to get deeply-nested properties of external objects
17:15:30 <ais523> IOW, rewriting in C would have been optimising the wrong thing
17:15:34 <mib_ub9ay1> i think taeb is a leeetle overengineered.
17:15:42 <ais523> no, it isn't
17:15:45 <ais523> it's still underengineered
17:15:48 <ais523> surprisingly
17:16:08 <oerjan> argh, "something something" seems a favorite thing to say to show the template of _other_ memes, making it impossible to search for :D
17:16:40 <mib_ub9ay1> oerjan: try tvtropes?
17:16:43 <mib_ub9ay1> i think its just an idiom.
17:17:35 <oerjan> oh good idea
17:17:43 <oerjan> well, meme, idiom, almost same thing
17:17:43 * mib_ub9ay1 cackles
17:17:46 <mib_ub9ay1> now you are trapped!
17:17:53 <oerjan> i've been there before
17:17:57 <mib_ub9ay1> i know
17:18:03 * mib_ub9ay1 = ehird
17:18:51 <mib_ub9ay1> http://code.google.com/p/brainspace/ Rule 1 of esolangs: your esolang does not need a google code project
17:19:01 <AnMaster> <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: I'm pretty sure the first rule covers that by telling you speed shouldn't be your goa.
17:19:01 <AnMaster> <mib_ub9ay1> l
17:19:14 <AnMaster> well, I don't overclock, but sometimes people do speed runs
17:19:20 <mib_ub9ay1> 17:19AnMaster<mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: I'm pretty sure the first rule covers that by telling you speed shouldn't be your goa. 17:19AnMaster<mib_ub9ay1> l
17:19:21 <AnMaster> like "how much can you overclock"
17:19:28 <mib_ub9ay1> what has that got to do with anything
17:19:47 <oerjan> hmph no obvious hits there either
17:19:50 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, considering cfunge a test of "how fast can you get it as a pure interpreter"
17:20:10 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: your site does not mention this.
17:20:16 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, indeed it doesn't
17:20:20 <AnMaster> why does it have to?
17:20:34 <mib_ub9ay1> because if you take its point as what the site says, your optimization is stupid
17:20:41 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, my goal is being the _fastest_ _interpreter_ out there
17:21:12 <AnMaster> as far as I know I currently beat all except jitfunge
17:21:15 <AnMaster> at befunge98
17:21:18 <oerjan> mib_ub9ay1: knowing you are ehird is simple, it's just a matter of elimination
17:21:24 <AnMaster> and last I heard jitfunge wasn't complete
17:21:53 <mib_ub9ay1> note to self: trying to talk sensibly to AnMaster is fruitless; your lines go to /dev/null.
17:22:05 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, I will update website slightly
17:22:19 <oerjan> mib_ub9ay1: an _ambitious_ esolang would have a google summer code project
17:22:33 <mib_ub9ay1> oerjan: ha
17:23:40 <mib_ub9ay1> http://serprex.staticfire.co.uk/x86/x86.htm nice.
17:23:52 <oerjan> mib_ub9ay1: actually scratch the elimination, the AnMaster comments are enough
17:24:01 <mib_ub9ay1> oerjan: <3
17:25:03 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, that is quite an useful link for debugging
17:25:24 <mib_ub9ay1> no, it's useful for writing compilers
17:25:25 <mib_ub9ay1> :p
17:25:26 * oerjan wonders if that flame knight or what it was site is still there
17:25:32 <AnMaster> up until now I used the AMD64 processor docs, which is not always easy to search in
17:25:48 <mib_ub9ay1> they're only available in pdf i believe.
17:25:51 <mib_ub9ay1> i don't believe in pdfs
17:26:01 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, they are pdf only indeed
17:26:11 <AnMaster> I have them (all 5 pdfs) on my desktop
17:26:20 <mib_ub9ay1> ALL 5! wow.
17:26:24 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, and do you mean you don't believe they exist?
17:26:29 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, all 5 huge ones
17:26:30 <AnMaster> :P
17:26:50 <mib_ub9ay1> not believing that pdfs exist would be more of an oklopol thing.
17:27:17 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, anyway they are around 450-550 pages long each
17:27:34 <oerjan> mib_ub9ay1: AnMaster: http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/duelists.htm
17:27:37 <mib_ub9ay1> yeah i think I just fell asleep
17:27:44 * mib_ub9ay1 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
17:27:52 <AnMaster> oerjan, heh, *reads text*
17:28:14 <AnMaster> oerjan, the text doesn't explain what the site is hm
17:28:28 <AnMaster> is this related to some online game?
17:28:31 <oerjan> click home
17:28:38 -!- Slereah has quit (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net).
17:28:38 <oerjan> no
17:28:38 -!- Slereah has joined.
17:28:52 <AnMaster> there is no link home there
17:28:59 <oerjan> it's a funny list of stereotypes
17:29:02 <oerjan> sure there is
17:29:06 <AnMaster> and my home icon takes me to gentoo.org
17:29:30 <oerjan> hm wait maybe it's framed
17:29:43 <AnMaster> oerjan, there is no home indeed, and there is no frame
17:29:50 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster's homepage is gentoo.org?
17:29:56 * AnMaster tries in another web browser
17:29:58 <mib_ub9ay1> gee I like seeing the gentoo site every time I open a browser too.
17:30:00 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: he mean
17:30:00 <mib_ub9ay1> s
17:30:02 <AnMaster> oerjan, ok there is a home when using firefox 3
17:30:03 <mib_ub9ay1> he's probably linked to a page
17:30:04 <oerjan> hm no works here
17:30:05 <mib_ub9ay1> that was in a frame
17:30:33 <oerjan> indeed, but that seems not to have been the problem
17:30:52 <mib_ub9ay1> doesn't even load for me.
17:31:21 <oerjan> main page is http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/index.htm
17:32:49 <oerjan> anyway that site should have pigeon holes enough for all of us :D
17:33:11 -!- Judofyr has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).
17:33:50 -!- Judofyr has joined.
17:34:04 <AnMaster> oerjan, what would you be then?
17:34:43 * oerjan doesn't recall, it's been years since he visited
17:34:45 <mib_ub9ay1> I'm guessing a giraffe.
17:34:53 <oerjan> i just remembered the duelists
17:34:58 <oerjan> there's a giraffe?
17:35:02 <mib_ub9ay1> clearly.
17:35:05 <mib_ub9ay1> there always is.
17:35:51 <oerjan> mib_ub9ay1: you might think http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm fits AnMaster better ;D
17:37:46 <Slereah> anus.htm :o
17:37:53 <AnMaster> Slereah, haha
17:38:05 -!- Ilari_ has joined.
17:38:08 <mib_ub9ay1> Slereah brings out the asshole in us all
17:38:12 <mib_ub9ay1> instantrimshot.com
17:38:16 <oerjan> of course i am an Eagle Scout *cough*
17:38:28 <oerjan> and i'm not even sure if that's ironic
17:38:41 <mib_ub9ay1> your mom is ironic
17:38:42 <Slereah> It's ironic if you're an eagle
17:38:43 <mib_ub9ay1> haha snap
17:40:21 <mib_ub9ay1> who loves SPACE
17:40:23 <oklopol> V v move down \n v move down
17:41:46 <oklopol> mib_ub9ay1: at least i agree brainspace doesn't deserve a google code project
17:42:30 <oklopol> i mean i drop more inspired languages in the toilet
17:43:10 <ais523> which one is brainspace, again?
17:43:28 * oerjan should try the Blowhard more often
17:43:35 <oklopol> mib_ub9ay1 linked it a few lines ago
17:43:43 <oklopol> i haven't seen it before
17:44:46 <ais523> ah, Yet Another cross between BF and Befunge
17:45:45 <oklopol> well. i think so. although i can't really see how to do computation in it
17:46:22 <ais523> can't BF trivially be compiled into it?
17:46:26 <ais523> or is it missing one of the instructions?
17:46:36 <mib_ub9ay1> its on the esowiki
17:46:48 <ais523> it seems LEPM + Befunge-style looping is enough for TCness
17:48:48 -!- Ilari has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
17:49:36 <mib_ub9ay1> hm
18:01:20 -!- Judofyr has quit.
18:03:34 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Interpreters/cfunge-37128.shtml
18:03:40 <mib_ub9ay1> lol
18:04:33 <ais523> did AnMaster write that?
18:04:37 <ais523> or is it a copy from his site?
18:04:43 <mib_ub9ay1> softpedia just spider shit.
18:05:07 <mib_ub9ay1> User Rating: Rated by:Fair (2.2/5) 18 user(s)
18:05:08 <mib_ub9ay1> yeah rihgt
18:05:53 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: http://www.dreamincode.net/forums/showtopic69841.htm
18:05:55 <mib_ub9ay1> INDUSTRY NEWS
18:09:11 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined.
18:12:09 <AnMaster> <ais523> or is it a copy from his site? <-- I didn't
18:13:04 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, that text is familiar, I wrote it as release notes for freshmeat.net iirc
18:13:05 <AnMaster> :P
18:13:14 <AnMaster> and yes I have seen sites like that before
18:13:18 <AnMaster> makes me think "wtf"
18:13:48 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, and yes I agree it is totally silly
18:13:50 <AnMaster> those sites
18:14:52 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: they get money from ad revenue
18:15:04 <mib_ub9ay1> not silly if you're making big bux off it.
18:15:08 <AnMaster> hm
18:15:15 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, why would anyone use them?
18:15:26 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: why wouldn't they?
18:15:32 <mib_ub9ay1> From a regular perspective, what sends off alarm bells?
18:15:38 <mib_ub9ay1> It has information and download links.
18:15:44 <mib_ub9ay1> They find it once, and keep going there, because they use it.
18:17:01 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, hm, at least freshmeat kind of makes sense
18:17:38 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, however I should probably report them for copyright violation of release notes, since I could say they are under GFDL or something
18:17:46 <ais523> AnMaster: /are/ they under GFDL?
18:17:47 <oklopol> ais523: i don't see how to make a loop
18:17:54 <ais523> if you didn't licence them at all, you could try to report them for copyvio
18:17:55 <AnMaster> ais523, no, but maybe for next release?
18:17:57 <ais523> oklopol: Befunge-style, using ?
18:18:09 <ais523> AnMaster: are they under any licence at all?
18:18:14 <oklopol> ? just reflects
18:18:15 <AnMaster> ais523, nop
18:18:18 <oklopol> and all turns are deterministic
18:18:20 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: who gives a shit
18:18:23 <ais523> if so, then it'll rather depend on which country you're in
18:18:26 <mib_ub9ay1> what harm is it doing?
18:18:35 <oklopol> meaning there's just one path you can't deviate from
18:18:36 <AnMaster> ais523, but probably since it was posted on freshmeat it is covered by their EULA
18:18:42 <AnMaster> so I'll need to check that
18:18:45 -!- Ilari_ has changed nick to Ilari.
18:18:45 <ais523> mib_ub9ay1: using AnMaster's hard-earned release notes to give themselves ad revenue?
18:18:57 <mib_ub9ay1> ais523: I was talking about softpedia.
18:18:58 <ais523> oklopol: are turns reversible too?
18:19:08 <ais523> mib_ub9ay1: it's cluttering Google results
18:19:12 <mib_ub9ay1> dreamincode isn't just an aggregation-spam site, they just seem to have an aggregated news section.
18:19:17 <oklopol> ais523: well no, i guess they're not
18:19:18 <mib_ub9ay1> Additionally, they link to their source.
18:19:28 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, true that is one useful thing
18:19:33 <mib_ub9ay1> ais523: That just means your google results aren't good enough.
18:19:39 <oklopol> still i can't see it. probably would if there is a way, if i tried
18:19:44 <mib_ub9ay1> If there was better content, the aggregations would be way at the end.
18:19:50 <oklopol> but i'm hoping someone will just explain it to me, because i'm so goddamn tired
18:20:13 <ais523> mib_ub9ay1: still, maybe AnMaster doesn't want his effort used by other companies to increase their search results
18:20:36 <AnMaster> well I'll let the issue rest for no
18:20:37 <AnMaster> now*
18:20:50 <mib_ub9ay1> ais523: I was talking about softpedia.
18:20:51 <oklopol> because i think the fact turns aren't reversible just means the path can't be traversed backwards except until the first forced turn comes (and not a mirror)
18:21:02 <mib_ub9ay1> I highly doubt dreamincode.net are doing it for their search reviews; they're a legit site, a very old one though.
18:21:09 <oklopol> http://code.google.com/p/brainspace/ for reference, if someone feels like explaining
18:21:14 <mib_ub9ay1> ASsuming it's the dreamincode I was thinking about.
18:21:16 <oklopol> i still think it's broken
18:21:18 <mib_ub9ay1> The page only loads in google's cache.
18:21:19 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, what is dreamincode doing it for?
18:21:31 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: er, to provide an aggregation of news?
18:21:39 <mib_ub9ay1> Admittedly not very well, i doubt many of their users care about cfunge.
18:21:50 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, "industry news from the esoteric language area"?
18:21:54 <AnMaster> it is hilarious
18:22:00 <ais523> oklopol: it's the * command
18:22:12 <ais523> that's a conditional skip, isn't it?
18:22:13 <ais523> I think
18:22:22 <ais523> and it can skip a direction-change command to get a conditional branch
18:22:44 <AnMaster> oklopol, is http://code.google.com/p/brainspace/ your project?
18:23:03 <mib_ub9ay1> uhhh
18:23:03 <mib_ub9ay1> no?
18:23:06 <AnMaster> ah
18:23:15 <AnMaster> who is the dev? Someone in this channel?
18:23:20 <mib_ub9ay1> err, no?
18:23:23 <mib_ub9ay1> wtf are you talking about
18:23:24 <AnMaster> ah ok
18:23:27 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, was wondering
18:23:36 <AnMaster> and what do you mean
18:23:37 <ais523> mib_ub9ay1: AnMaster's trying to figure out whose BrainSpace is
18:23:42 <AnMaster> ais523, exactly!
18:23:46 <mib_ub9ay1> look on the esowiki?
18:23:48 <mib_ub9ay1> some random idiot
18:23:51 <AnMaster> hm
18:23:52 <mib_ub9ay1> like all crap esolangs
18:23:53 <ais523> SpaceMan++ according to the esowiki history
18:23:58 <AnMaster> anyway this sounds familiar
18:24:00 <AnMaster> the model
18:24:05 <AnMaster> from some other language
18:24:12 <AnMaster> the \ / mirror thing
18:24:13 <mib_ub9ay1> uh
18:24:14 <mib_ub9ay1> befunge?
18:24:24 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, no that doesn't have /\ mirrors
18:24:43 <oerjan> AnMaster: backflip?
18:24:55 <AnMaster> oerjan, *looks on esowiki*
18:25:03 <AnMaster> ah yes indeed
18:25:11 <AnMaster> oerjan, yes that was it
18:25:24 <AnMaster> heh it says ais523 created it
18:25:33 <ais523> I created BackFlip, yes
18:25:38 <ais523> but in BackFlip, the mirrors use
18:25:44 <ais523> neither of the commands were my idea, by the way
18:25:51 <ais523> I got them from a post on esoteric.sange.fi
18:26:10 <ais523> but they were in quite a different context, someone was trying to figure out how to do subroutines in a Befunge-like language
18:27:12 <mib_ub9ay1> is there an animated backflip interp? :P
18:27:35 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, sounds like a fun idea
18:27:37 <AnMaster> make one!
18:27:43 <AnMaster> with sound effects!
18:32:07 <mib_ub9ay1> AnMaster: PEW! PEW!
18:32:07 <mib_ub9ay1> DOINK
18:32:12 <mib_ub9ay1> *CRASH*
18:32:24 <AnMaster> mib_ub9ay1, :D
18:45:44 <ais523> http://code.google.com/p/brainspace/wiki/LinkingToBS1LibraryInJava
18:47:09 <mib_ub9ay1> ais523: ...
18:47:19 * mib_ub9ay1 vomits
18:47:27 * mib_ub9ay1 eats the vomit
18:47:27 -!- Hiato has joined.
18:47:28 * mib_ub9ay1 vomits
18:47:32 <mib_ub9ay1> ^ MY APPROXIMATE FEELINGS.
18:51:06 -!- Hiato has quit (Client Quit).
19:01:39 -!- CakeProphet has quit ("lol").
19:08:21 <oklopol> AnMaster: brainspace isn't really my type.
19:09:00 <oklopol> ais523: oh. i missed that.
19:10:19 <oerjan> oklopol is a bear of very little brain
19:10:42 <oerjan> needs nearly no space
19:10:45 <oklopol> that's the problem with me reading things, i always miss the one crucial line.
19:14:32 <oklopol> oerjan: bear?
19:14:37 <oklopol> i don't have bear powers
19:18:10 <oerjan> *whoosh*
19:18:25 <mib_ub9ay1> can i have bear powers?
19:18:32 <oerjan> maybe
19:18:39 <oklopol> oerjan: my point exactly
19:19:55 <oerjan> however, loving milk and honey is a prerequisite.
19:20:31 <mib_ub9ay1> sigh.
19:20:32 <mib_ub9ay1> albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bearhello
19:20:35 <mib_ub9ay1> http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/bearhello
19:20:54 <oklopol> o
19:20:56 <oklopol> o
19:21:18 <oklopol> i guess that's fun a hundredth time
19:21:20 * oklopol watches
19:21:26 <mib_ub9ay1> o
19:30:11 -!- Judofyr has joined.
19:32:07 <oklopol> "interpeter"
19:32:31 <oklopol> i'm gonna change my name to that
19:33:53 <oerjan> Pope Interpeter I
19:35:04 <oklopol> what's Mozilla Public License 1.1
19:35:29 <mib_ub9ay1> a shit license.
19:35:37 <oklopol> license to shit
19:47:20 -!- psygnisfive has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
19:50:12 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection).
20:45:00 -!- mib_ub9ay1 has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client").
20:58:02 -!- mib_5koloe has joined.
20:58:07 <mib_5koloe> AnMaster: can you implement MKRY already?
20:58:28 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, no
20:58:32 <mib_5koloe> why not
20:58:34 <AnMaster> but should be easy for you to do
20:58:41 <mib_5koloe> like I'm touching that source
20:58:45 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, it adds nothing of value IMO
20:58:53 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, you could implement it for rc/funge then
20:58:58 <AnMaster> that would be funny
20:59:00 <mib_5koloe> AnMaster: i'd stop complaining about cfunge.
20:59:18 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, though that sounds nice: no
20:59:22 <AnMaster> still
20:59:27 <AnMaster> implement it for rc/funge
20:59:33 <mib_5koloe> yeah I think this accurately depicts why I dislike cfunge.
20:59:33 <AnMaster> you won't complain about cfunge then
20:59:40 <AnMaster> :P
20:59:45 <oerjan> it's a far MKRY from implementation...
20:59:52 <AnMaster> oerjan, :D
21:00:13 <AnMaster> that one was truly good/awful/aweful all in one
21:00:20 <AnMaster> and yes that wasn't a typo
21:00:51 <oklopol> really, you didn't write awful twice and type the other one?
21:00:54 <oerjan> the actual word is "awesome"
21:01:10 <oklopol> *typo
21:01:24 <oklopol> ^ see, i wrote "typo" twice, typoed the first one
21:01:30 <oklopol> it's common
21:02:00 <oklopol> oerjan: did you know your nick backwards is najreo?
21:02:17 <oerjan> i had vaguely suspected it
21:02:19 <oklopol> i mean... that doesn't even mean anything
21:02:50 <oerjan> someone once told me my name forward means slave in finnish
21:02:52 <ais523> whereas oko nicks spelt backwards just look like more oko nicks
21:02:56 <oklopol> how about reversing your nick so it means something backwards?
21:03:02 <ais523> lopolko for instance
21:03:35 <oklopol> olopolo
21:03:45 <oklopol> that would be a cool nick
21:04:05 -!- psygnisfive has joined.
21:04:46 <oklopol> hmm.
21:04:54 <oklopol> trying to translate olopolo is a bit hard
21:05:29 <oklopol> i mean "Xpolo" is usually translated "poor X"
21:06:07 <oklopol> but "olo" means something like "being", but not about a person, more like the act of being
21:06:19 <oklopol> poor act of being
21:06:23 -!- oklopol has changed nick to olopolo.
21:06:29 <olopolo> o
21:06:35 <oerjan> a poor existence
21:06:39 <olopolo> hmm. feels pretty nice
21:06:42 <olopolo> hmm
21:06:46 <olopolo> yeah that's good
21:07:26 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined.
21:13:48 <AnMaster> <oerjan> the actual word is "awesome" <-- I know
21:13:52 <AnMaster> but that was the point
21:14:19 <AnMaster> awsome and aweful
21:15:39 <AnMaster> olopolo, Hm does Finnish have a lot of hard to translate meanings?
21:15:45 <AnMaster> what I would call nyanser in Swedish
21:15:53 <AnMaster> don't know the English word for it
21:16:00 <mib_5koloe> nyanser is nyanser
21:16:02 <mib_5koloe> how hilarious
21:16:10 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, does it mean the same?
21:16:19 <mib_5koloe> i meant
21:16:23 <mib_5koloe> nyanser is an example of nyanser
21:16:23 <mib_5koloe> :P
21:16:30 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, no it isn't
21:16:37 <AnMaster> I just don't remember the word
21:16:37 <oerjan> "nuances"
21:16:42 <mib_5koloe> AnMaster: well, it's hard to translate the meaning into English
21:16:43 <AnMaster> I know I have read the English one
21:16:43 <mib_5koloe> seems to fit :P
21:16:46 <AnMaster> oerjan, err no
21:16:56 <oerjan> not?
21:17:01 <mib_5koloe> oerjan: surely not
21:17:24 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, nyans when used about colours is "shade"
21:17:32 <AnMaster> not sure when used about meanings of words
21:17:43 * oerjan swats AnMaster -----###
21:17:43 <AnMaster> in Swedish it can be used for both
21:17:50 <AnMaster> oerjan, what?
21:17:52 <mib_5koloe> o.O
21:18:19 <AnMaster> oh wait
21:18:23 <AnMaster> Definitions of nuance on the Web:
21:18:23 <AnMaster>     * a subtle difference in meaning or opinion or attitude; "without understanding the finer nuances you can't enjoy the humor"; "don't argue about ...
21:18:23 <AnMaster>       wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
21:18:26 <AnMaster> huh
21:18:36 <AnMaster> I thought "nuance" was "irritating"
21:18:43 <oerjan> HOW DARE YOU NOT BELIEVE ME
21:18:46 <mib_5koloe> that's annoyance, AnMaster
21:18:50 <mib_5koloe> or err
21:18:52 <mib_5koloe> how do you spell it
21:18:54 <mib_5koloe> niusance
21:18:57 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, yes, but isn't there one without "a"
21:18:58 <AnMaster> ah yes
21:19:01 <oerjan> "nuisance"*
21:19:03 <AnMaster> nuisance
21:19:06 <mib_5koloe> ah, thanks
21:19:06 <mib_5koloe> :P
21:19:07 <olopolo> mib_5koloe's joke works, misunderstanding something and basing a joke on it is okay as long as it's clear what was misunderstood
21:19:13 <mib_5koloe> what
21:19:13 <oerjan> where did that * come from
21:19:27 <AnMaster> oerjan, from outer space
21:19:40 <mib_5koloe> i always rely on non-native speakers to correct my spelling and  grammar
21:19:42 <mib_5koloe> :D
21:19:43 <AnMaster> or if you don't believe the crop circle experts, from your keyboard
21:19:50 <oerjan> AYEE
21:19:57 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, heh
21:20:05 <mib_5koloe> they approach english as more of a dark magic than a regular language
21:20:11 <mib_5koloe> so generally they're pretty good at spotting tiny things :P
21:20:13 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, what client do you use? Mine has a spell checker built in
21:20:14 <olopolo> how can you think it's niusance if you know how to pronounce it
21:20:24 <AnMaster> while it doesn't always help, it does help a lot of the times
21:20:29 <mib_5koloe> olopolo: i don't
21:20:32 * oerjan develops a space disease and his skin turns purple with orange spots
21:20:33 <mib_5koloe> :P
21:20:37 <mib_5koloe> well didn't
21:20:43 <mib_5koloe> AnMaster: all OS X textfields do
21:20:44 <olopolo> i could understand newsans or noozonge, but not niusance
21:20:51 <mib_5koloe> but it's a pain to right click and choose an alternative.
21:20:54 <mib_5koloe> also, doesn't do grammar.
21:20:58 <mib_5koloe> also, the suggestions sometimes suck
21:21:04 <mib_5koloe> e.g. I doubt it could correct niusance
21:21:07 <mib_5koloe> well
21:21:08 <mib_5koloe> prolly could
21:21:10 <mib_5koloe> but not other ones
21:21:13 <olopolo> (even narlum, for the american pronunciation)
21:21:13 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, well, mine does English as I type. However it think "doesn't" is badly spelled
21:21:20 <AnMaster> it thinks ' is a word delimiter
21:21:24 <AnMaster> which is quite odd
21:22:11 <AnMaster> olopolo, i don't know how to pronounce "nuisance"
21:22:22 <ais523> it's like new-sance
21:22:25 <AnMaster> ALSO! Where is the damn mobile phone
21:22:30 <ais523> with a soft c
21:22:34 <mib_5koloe> AnMaster: call it and find out.
21:22:45 <ais523> and silent e, ce is sort of lilke a way to say a soft c
21:22:46 <olopolo> i pronounce it roughly like new-sense
21:22:54 <olopolo> hmm yeah sance is better
21:22:57 <mib_5koloe> i pronounce it like gNewSense
21:22:58 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, not possible, the battery was dead last night
21:23:03 <ais523> olopolo: I think it differs by dialect
21:23:04 <mib_5koloe> for I am Richard M Stallman
21:23:05 <AnMaster> and I don't remember where I put it
21:23:24 <ais523> mib_5koloe: the second e in that is stronger than the corresponding vowel in nuisance, which is more neutral
21:23:37 <mib_5koloe> gNewSense is a linux distro
21:23:47 <AnMaster> ok I found it... But such a strange place...
21:23:49 <mib_5koloe> it sucks and rms loves it because it is committed to being useless by only containing 100% free software.
21:23:53 <AnMaster> probably won't tell you
21:23:57 <AnMaster> too strange
21:24:02 <mib_5koloe> AnMaster: THE TOILET?!!!!!!!!11111111111
21:24:05 <mib_5koloe> 11
21:24:06 <mib_5koloe> 1
21:24:11 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, pyjamas pocket...
21:24:20 <mib_5koloe> Same thing, rite.
21:24:27 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, about as strange yes
21:24:32 <AnMaster> but not same
21:24:41 <AnMaster> since I store the pyjamas elsewhere
21:24:48 <olopolo> i think he's asking whether you have a habit of taking a shit in your pyjamas pocket.
21:24:56 <mib_5koloe> ...
21:24:57 <AnMaster> olopolo, no.
21:24:59 <mib_5koloe> XD
21:25:03 <AnMaster> I don't think so
21:25:03 <olopolo> :D
21:25:17 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, s/X/XKC/
21:25:20 <olopolo> well that wouldn't be like you really
21:25:26 <olopolo> i mean even i don't do that
21:25:31 <mib_5koloe> i do...
21:25:32 <mib_5koloe> ...
21:25:33 <mib_5koloe> ..
21:25:35 <mib_5koloe> ...
21:25:36 <olopolo> lol why am i on irc.
21:25:37 <olopolo> ->
21:25:38 <mib_5koloe> ...n't
21:25:44 <AnMaster> haha
21:26:20 <oerjan> th-th-that's some st-st-st-speech impediment
21:27:20 <AnMaster> oerjan, nah, just high latency link between brain and the thingy you make sound with
21:27:27 <AnMaster> gah, what is the word in English
21:27:29 <mib_5koloe> you mean
21:27:32 <mib_5koloe> a speech impediment.
21:27:34 <mib_5koloe> also, mouth.
21:27:44 <AnMaster> mib_5koloe, no the other part
21:27:48 <AnMaster> in the throat
21:27:51 <mib_5koloe> ass?
21:27:53 <mib_5koloe> oh.
21:27:54 <mib_5koloe> :P
21:27:55 <AnMaster> NO!
21:27:57 <mib_5koloe> voicebox?
21:28:03 <olopolo> vocal chords?
21:28:10 <mib_5koloe> ass?
21:28:12 <AnMaster> wikipedia claims it is "vocal folds"
21:28:24 <AnMaster> "The vocal folds, also known commonly as vocal cords..."
21:28:30 <olopolo> what's that thing hanging from the top of the mouth, in english
21:28:32 <oerjan> do we have a vocal disagreement?
21:28:35 <olopolo> it has some fun name
21:28:41 <mib_5koloe> uvula
21:28:44 <olopolo> ah
21:28:49 <mib_5koloe> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uvula_piercing
21:28:50 <mib_5koloe> XD
21:28:55 <olopolo> heh
21:29:09 <olopolo> not at all pointless
21:30:41 <olopolo> "but it may make it very difficult to perform" <<< lol didn't realize at first this was about the piercing operation
21:31:02 <olopolo> "a uvula piercing might make it difficult to perform... so you'll need to take it off when you perform"
21:31:09 <olopolo> "if you know what i mean... wink wink"
21:31:19 -!- psygnisfive has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)).
21:31:24 <mib_5koloe> XD
21:31:29 <olopolo> "now remove your skirt and call me a doctor"
21:31:32 <olopolo> CODE.
21:31:34 <olopolo> SERIOUSLY.
21:31:35 <olopolo> ->
21:31:38 -!- psygnisfive has joined.
21:34:14 <mib_5koloe> i wonder what the longest conversation ever was.
21:35:07 <olopolo> between two people?
21:35:30 <mib_5koloe> yeah, I guess
21:35:38 <olopolo> seven years
21:37:10 <Slereah> Define "conversation"
21:39:33 <mib_5koloe> continuous talking about a subject.
21:39:46 <Slereah> Completely continuous?
21:39:55 <mib_5koloe> no.
21:39:59 <Slereah> No sleep or eating?
21:40:17 <mib_5koloe> eating yes sleeping no.
21:40:52 <Slereah> Then it can't be longer than ten days, since it's the record for not sleeping!
21:41:05 <Slereah> And really, I assume shorter than two days, too.
21:41:09 <olopolo> hmm.
21:41:15 <olopolo> Slereah: u sure about that?
21:41:26 <mib_5koloe> olopolo: "u"?
21:41:28 <Slereah> No.
21:41:28 <mib_5koloe> :O
21:41:33 <Slereah> That's why I said assume
21:41:49 <olopolo> i mean i've heard stories about people who've stopped sleeping completely after a disease
21:42:01 <olopolo> mib_5koloe: whooooops typo.
21:42:04 <Slereah> Are t
21:42:07 <Slereah> hey dead?
21:42:08 <olopolo> i actually meant "you"
21:42:21 <Slereah> Also, "heard stories" is not very convincing.
21:42:25 <olopolo> :P
21:42:35 <Slereah> I heard stories about molemen.
21:42:40 <mib_5koloe> a guy hasn't slept  for like 40 years
21:42:43 <mib_5koloe> it was on bbc news
21:42:46 <mib_5koloe> he was a farmer guy type.
21:42:56 <Slereah> Be more precise.
21:43:04 <mib_5koloe> can't sry
21:43:14 <Slereah> Let's try wikipedia!
21:44:01 <olopolo> i wish i could stop sleeping
21:44:24 <Slereah> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_deprivation#Longest_period_without_sleep
21:44:27 <olopolo> i mean, involuntary sleeping at least
21:45:30 <olopolo> On May 25, 2007 the BBC reported that Tony Wright beat the Guinness World Record by staying awake for 11 days and nights.[42] The Guinness Book of Records has, however, withdrawn its backing of a sleep deprivation class because of the associated health risks.
21:45:34 <olopolo> that's so retarded
21:45:41 <olopolo> i mean the latter
21:46:13 <Slereah> So I guess that if the guy who didn't sleep for 33 years talked with the guy who didn't sleep in 20 years
21:46:18 <Slereah> That's a max of 20 years.
21:48:06 <olopolo> lol, i could do that standing on my head
21:48:24 <Slereah> Do it.
21:48:30 <Slereah> Standing on your head.
21:49:23 <psygnisfive> olopolo is  palindrome.
21:49:41 <Slereah> But it is not symetrical, though.
21:49:47 <Slereah> The p ruins the symmetry.
21:49:58 <psygnisfive> its not visually similar, this is true
21:50:09 <psygnisfive> but it is character-wise symmetric, hence palindromic
21:50:18 <Slereah> I know.
21:50:52 <psygnisfive> oloqolo
21:50:54 <olopolo> psygnisfive: orly
21:51:05 <psygnisfive> actually i prefer anal but if you insist
21:51:15 <olopolo> how do you do that upside down p??
21:51:27 <psygnisfive> its in unicode
21:51:36 <Slereah> q isn't upside down p.
21:51:37 <psygnisfive> under 'flipped characters"
21:51:40 <psygnisfive> olobolo
21:51:48 <oerjan> b
21:51:58 <Slereah> qpdb
21:52:14 <olopolo> Slereah: yes it is, it's just also reversed
21:52:19 <olopolo> wait.
21:52:21 <olopolo> no it's not
21:52:24 <olopolo> ...
21:52:27 <olopolo> fuck you all ->
21:52:31 <Slereah> :D
21:52:40 <psygnisfive> olodolo
21:52:41 <Slereah> Yay, fucking :D
22:07:13 -!- mib_5koloe has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client").
22:08:07 -!- mib_ty3fkd has joined.
22:25:06 -!- sebbu2 has joined.
22:30:35 -!- sebbu has quit (No route to host).
22:30:36 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu.
22:35:42 <psygnisfive> GUYS
22:35:44 <psygnisfive> holy FUCK
22:35:49 <psygnisfive> internet mystery!
22:35:54 <Slereah> Al Gore?
22:36:01 <psygnisfive> no no
22:36:03 <psygnisfive> *coho
22:41:10 <psygnisfive> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheGreatHatsby
22:47:05 <oerjan> psygnisfive: seems a bit fishy to me
22:47:54 <Slereah> *hatty
22:48:43 <oerjan> no, look at the end
22:52:47 <oerjan> fungot: what do you think of these conversation bots?
22:52:47 <fungot> oerjan: at the
22:53:04 <mib_ty3fkd> ah, the great hatsby bots
22:53:08 <mib_ty3fkd> they're neat
22:53:13 <mib_ty3fkd> they're called salmonbots nowadays
22:53:39 <mib_ty3fkd> apparently the coders occasionally keep in touch with the people who like them and stuff.
22:53:43 <mib_ty3fkd> so not much of a mystery
22:55:11 <mib_ty3fkd> http://project-upstream.awardspace.com/
22:55:13 <mib_ty3fkd> request interface
22:56:00 <mib_ty3fkd> Your connection request has been received, and may be filled at our convenience.  Please note that while Project Upstream cares deeply about the Internet community's satisfaction, we can not be held responsible for delayed or overlooked connection requests.
22:58:37 <mib_ty3fkd> http://community.livejournal.com/themissinghat/405326.html geez, look at the freaking whiners
23:23:24 <Mony> 'night
23:23:35 -!- Mony has quit ("Quit").
23:24:55 <psygnisfive> guys
23:25:09 <psygnisfive> namely, oerjan, oklopol, ehird
23:25:12 <psygnisfive> i have an idea
23:25:33 <mib_ty3fkd> wat
23:25:39 <oerjan> angkor
23:27:56 <psygnisfive> oerjan :D
23:28:02 <psygnisfive> im glad you've started doing that too
23:28:14 <psygnisfive> tho i think angkor thom is cooler than angkor wat
23:28:15 <psygnisfive> anyway
23:28:22 <psygnisfive> i say we start an internet mystert
23:28:23 <psygnisfive> mystery*
23:28:34 <oerjan> you mean others do it too?
23:28:40 <psygnisfive> i do!
23:28:45 <psygnisfive> ive been doing it for YEARS
23:28:59 <psygnisfive> oh oerjan, i love you!
23:29:09 * psygnisfive runs towards oerjan in slow motion, arms extended for embrace
23:29:10 <oerjan> i may have picked it up subconsciously then
23:29:16 <psygnisfive> :)
23:29:26 <psygnisfive> anyone read Pattern Recognition?
23:30:07 <mib_ty3fkd> i  tried to start an ARG once
23:30:07 <mib_ty3fkd> failed
23:30:18 <oerjan> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARG
23:30:58 <psygnisfive> man forget ARGs
23:31:04 <psygnisfive> ARGs are too .. gamey
23:31:07 <psygnisfive> i dont want to start an ARG
23:31:09 <mib_ty3fkd> ARGs are fun as hell.
23:31:13 <psygnisfive> i want to start a genuine mystery
23:31:24 <mib_ty3fkd> psygnisfive: then what the fuck are you doing talking about it on a public IRC channel?
23:31:35 <psygnisfive> as if people read this shit :P
23:31:43 <oerjan> mib_ty3fkd: that is the mystery
23:31:44 <mib_ty3fkd> psygnisfive: google reads us.
23:31:51 <psygnisfive> lies
23:31:52 <mib_ty3fkd> oerjan: lol
23:32:39 <oerjan> i've never been able to google the logs reliably
23:32:56 <mib_ty3fkd> http://gitorious.org/projects/astral-messenger/repos/mainline/blobs/master/amsg.pl Slowest messaging service ever
23:33:24 <psygnisfive> oerjan!
23:33:25 <psygnisfive> PM!
23:33:56 <mib_ty3fkd> psygnisfive: please don't notify about PMs in public... it's irritating
23:34:05 <psygnisfive> shut up |
23:34:10 <psygnisfive> :|
23:34:10 <mib_ty3fkd> no.
23:34:17 <psygnisfive> well too bad
23:34:20 <psygnisfive> i will notify all i want!
23:34:22 <oerjan> AM here
23:34:40 <mib_ty3fkd> psygnisfive: please, others have expressed annoyance at people doing it too..
23:34:44 <psygnisfive> read your pms, bitch
23:34:57 <mib_ty3fkd> /sig
23:34:57 <mib_ty3fkd> h
23:35:02 <oerjan> i don't have pms
23:35:09 <psygnisfive> i PMed you >O
23:35:24 <mib_ty3fkd> it's called /msg.
23:35:36 <psygnisfive> i know this, dumbass.
23:35:53 <mib_ty3fkd> i can call people dumbasses too.
23:36:09 <psygnisfive> i know you can
23:36:23 <ais523> mib_ty3fkd: you can also be incorrect in doing so
23:36:55 <psygnisfive> who is mib_ty3fkd anywho
23:36:59 <mib_ty3fkd> ehird.
23:37:37 <psygnisfive> that explains it
23:37:40 <mib_ty3fkd> ais523: http://gitorious.org/projects/astral-messenger/repos/mainline/blobs/master/amsg.pl read and laugh
23:41:20 <ais523> it just randomly hashes things until it finds the original
23:41:54 <mib_ty3fkd> ais523: ywp
23:41:54 <mib_ty3fkd> *yep
23:41:56 <mib_ty3fkd> that's the joke.
23:43:44 <mib_ty3fkd> I would like to make a block-based, append-only, hash-identifier, distributed filesystem sometime.
23:43:45 <mib_ty3fkd> That'd be fun.
23:44:22 <mib_ty3fkd> kind of like a bittorrent filesystem
23:44:30 <mib_ty3fkd> with universal lookup
23:57:16 -!- mib_ty3fkd has quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client").
23:57:31 -!- mib_ugvo4i has joined.