00:06:59 -!- Corun has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 00:11:43 uhm. 00:11:52 If anyone's still interested 00:12:05 I've written a preliminary spec 00:12:14 http://pastebin.com/m78cbca0b 00:12:43 But keep in mind that the whole thing will change if I decide to add another operator ^^ 00:13:34 BeholdMyGlory: you need more than a byte of memory. 00:13:58 ehird: no, since you store eveything in variables ^^ 00:15:08 ehird: which means variables wouldn't be a part of the memory... uhm. okay, that sounds a bit wierd, but still. you'll probably get the idea 00:15:18 there are only 26 variables, no? 00:15:20 not enough. 00:15:55 ehird: well, tough luck if you need more. I haven't written it to be easy to use 00:16:01 ehird: quite the opposite 00:16:01 haha 00:16:05 BeholdMyGlory: not tough luck 00:16:08 I mean it won't be turing complete 00:16:16 and thus you won't be able to write non-trivial programs in it 00:16:18 at all 00:16:21 simply impossible 00:17:09 ehird: well, remember that I'm still figuring out the details 00:17:24 ehird: will probably add a lot of other operators 00:17:27 you need either an infinite amount of memory, or infinitely large numbers 00:17:33 oh yea 00:17:33 if you have neither, bzzt, not turing complete 00:17:38 operators will solve that problem 00:17:45 -!- Corun has joined. 00:17:45 how 00:17:51 well 00:17:53 you know the 00:17:56 sarcasm operator? 00:18:04 ... 00:18:09 what 00:18:20 never. mind. 00:19:59 flexo: esplain :| 00:20:00 ehird: and will also think of a better way to manage variables. might think of a way to make an infinite numbers of variables 00:20:16 ehird: are you kidding me? 00:20:23 flexo: possibly? 00:20:33 are you drunk or something :| 00:20:33 ehird: that was probably a quite sarcastic remark to my "will probably add a lot of other operators" 00:20:36 nope 00:21:01 i think he's kidding me 00:21:14 what 00:21:55 ehird: "[01:17:38] operators will solve that problem" = sarcastic response to "[01:17:23] ehird: will probably add a lot of other operators" 00:22:05 i see/ 00:22:29 good for you 00:22:43 anyway, you need less operators, not momre 00:22:44 *more 00:23:33 why 00:23:33 but this doesn't really matter when it's not TC 00:23:36 not every language has to be a tarpi 00:23:36 t 00:23:38 flexo: more operators = harder to keep track of them all = harder to program in general = my goal ^^ 00:24:00 ehird: yea well, but you need something novel 00:24:09 feature creep is not novel 00:24:09 its his first esolang 00:24:11 give him a break 00:24:37 BeholdMyGlory: I will note that Malbolge is pretty much the epitome of that: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Malbolge 00:24:46 so? i've never written an esolang - for exactly thateason 00:24:50 *reason 00:24:55 also, i suspect he knows malbolge 00:24:56 whine whine whine 00:25:09 because the operator rotating thing likks taken from there 00:25:10 ;) 00:25:49 *looks like 00:26:33 no, the world needs another glorious esolang 00:26:34 flexo: i have stumbled across that page, but didn't read any of it. when looking at the examples, it seemed to be a bit too much to grasp 00:26:57 BeholdMyGlory: examples? 00:27:13 flexo: well, sample programs 00:27:22 there exist no sample programs 00:27:35 you might want to read the page ;) 00:27:40 um yes 00:27:41 there do 00:27:49 http://esolangs.org/wiki/Malbolge#Sample_programs 00:28:00 also guide: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Malbolge_programming 00:29:03 yes 00:29:11 i know that there exist programs 00:29:24 but that hardly counts as an "example" 00:29:34 because those examples make up like 25% of all existing programs 00:29:54 and were written years after malbolge was published 00:29:59 yes. 00:29:59 we know. 00:30:02 i know you do 00:30:18 i'm trying to tell what i mean by saying there exist no sample programs 00:30:30 as in 00:30:39 "here's a reference, oh, and now i'm going to show you how to write hello world" 00:31:58 hmmm 00:32:25 a more formalized version of "the incredible machine" 00:33:03 nah 00:33:16 either too undeterministic, or too boring 00:38:50 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit ("bye for now"). 00:40:10 -!- metazilla has quit ("- nbs-irc 2.37 - www.nbs-irc.net -"). 01:06:04 -!- puzzlet has quit (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 01:06:05 -!- flexo has quit (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 01:06:28 -!- puzzlet has joined. 01:06:28 -!- flexo has joined. 01:21:11 * AnMaster dislikes that person using the name alang 01:24:37 -!- oerjan has joined. 02:19:47 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 02:33:19 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 03:16:45 -!- Corun has quit ("Leaving"). 03:20:07 -!- Corun has joined. 04:31:12 -!- kerlo has joined. 04:31:24 Hmm... 05:39:41 -!- Corun has quit ("Leaving"). 05:40:12 -!- seveninchbread has joined. 05:40:38 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Nick collision from services.). 05:40:51 -!- seveninchbread has changed nick to CakeProphet. 05:54:37 wee 05:54:38 :D 05:54:45 i learned how to do unification :D 05:54:56 With U? 05:55:09 what? 05:55:22 UNION SYMBOL 05:55:34 well i suppose after a fashion 05:55:39 what do you mean "with U" tho? 05:55:49 U is the union symbol. 05:55:55 yes 05:56:07 i said unification, not union 05:56:15 A U B = {x|x in A \/ x in B} 05:56:20 unification, like prolog does 05:56:28 I don't know what prolog does, nerd 05:56:34 it does unification! 05:56:48 unification is kind of like pattern matching, actually 05:56:55 its something you use when you do pattern matching 05:57:05 its the binding of variables in a pattern to the thing they match 05:57:22 but it works on complicated structures not just simple ones 06:06:12 -!- seveninchbread has joined. 06:06:49 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Nick collision from services.). 06:06:55 -!- seveninchbread has changed nick to CakeProphet. 06:15:50 -!- seveninchbread has joined. 06:16:29 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Nick collision from services.). 06:16:31 -!- seveninchbread has changed nick to CakeProphet. 06:30:16 -!- seveninchbread has joined. 06:30:33 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Nick collision from services.). 06:30:35 -!- seveninchbread has changed nick to CakeProphet. 06:40:33 -!- olsner has joined. 07:22:49 Heh, nice job advertisement on our board. "Do you enjoy coding? Do you think about the code you write? Do you favor some "exotic" programming language (such as Lisp, Lua, ML, Haskell or Erlang) over C++ and Java? If so, then you may be just the person to come write some Symbian C++ code for us." 07:24:05 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 07:26:35 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 07:34:52 lmfao 07:35:05 do you prefer other languages of C++? then you're probably the right person to code our C++! 07:35:43 on the one hand, its true. in that, knowing any of the above probably makes you a better C++ coder if you also know C++. 07:35:52 on the other hand, C++. 07:46:17 -!- oerjan has joined. 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:03:55 On the third hand, it's not just any C++, it's *Symbian* C++. And two wrongs don't make a right here. 08:04:08 fizzie is a mutant 08:04:59 all finns are 08:05:07 symbian c++? 08:05:09 they're really sort of cleaned-up zombies 08:05:45 Do finns have fins? 08:05:54 not after the cleanup 08:05:56 They do not tell what the project is all about, so it's hard to say if that's why preferring "exotic" languages is a good thing there. 08:08:21 Symbian C++ uses a strange preprocessor-macro-based "trap harness" exception system, because they don't support real C++ exceptions. And all objects whose construction might fail therefore need to use a really strange two-phase construction so that they properly end up in the custom "cleanup stack". 08:08:59 (Except that I think Symbian v9 or something added support for real C++ exceptions. Not that the API classes use those.) 08:21:19 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 08:22:20 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 08:29:02 -!- seveninchbread has joined. 08:35:39 -!- CakeProphet has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 08:50:10 -!- ais523 has joined. 09:22:51 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("e disasterous."). 09:24:44 and "thin" templates 09:30:21 Yes, that too. 09:30:24 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 09:31:06 I half-read a book on Symbian C++ once, glad I never had to use it :) 09:33:44 I've done a tiny bit of Symbian C++, and it... wasn't pleasant. The user interface side seemed especially painful, although I didn't really have to touch that. 09:50:11 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 09:57:28 -!- ais523 has joined. 10:21:52 -!- seveninchbread has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 10:24:04 -!- CakeProphet has joined. 10:48:16 -!- psygnisfive has changed nick to p5[z. 10:48:35 -!- p5[z has changed nick to p5[zi. 10:48:58 -!- p5[zi has changed nick to p5[ziiz]. 11:06:04 -!- BeholdMyBot has joined. 11:13:40 hej 11:13:58 -!- BeholdMyBot has quit ("bye"). 11:13:59 hy 11:14:07 that was strange... 11:14:15 I wonder if BeholdMyBot is a bot 11:14:18 or a bot advertiser? 11:15:22 -!- FF|Java|2 has joined. 11:15:25 It's a bot 11:15:39 -!- FF|Java|2 has quit (Client Quit). 11:17:17 -!- BeholdMyBot has joined. 11:17:19 hejd† 11:17:21 -!- BeholdMyBot has quit (Client Quit). 11:18:22 * ais523 wonders if BeholdMyBot interprets any esolangs yet 11:22:52 -!- jix has joined. 12:16:17 -!- ais523 has quit ("rebooting"). 12:20:20 -!- ais523 has joined. 12:44:03 -!- ais523 has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 12:44:21 -!- comexk has joined. 12:46:59 -!- olsner has quit (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 12:46:59 -!- comex has quit (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net). 13:00:03 -!- olsner has joined. 13:06:51 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 13:55:45 -!- Corun has joined. 14:00:57 fungot: do you think i should watch another ep? 14:00:57 oklopol: lets see, there are some 14:01:06 fungot: well yes, there are 14:01:07 oklopol: ( gravity influences pretty much everything, though. 14:01:11 i guess. 14:01:16 so maybe i'll ^bool? 14:01:18 ^bool 14:01:18 No. 14:01:23 :| 14:01:31 sure about that? 14:01:33 ^bool 14:01:33 No. 14:01:42 well then i'll ask again 14:01:44 ^bool 14:01:44 Yes. 14:01:50 so k, i'll watch 14:01:55 glad i only needed to ask twice. 14:06:27 I'm not sure this ^bool thing is useful if you keep retrying until you get the answer you want. 14:07:11 STOP TELLING ME HOW TO LIVE MY LIFE 14:12:08 You will only get the benefits (happiness, money, love, that sort of stuff) if you unquestionably obey fungot. 14:12:09 fizzie: right, and it would start being scary otherwise.... so i agree with yome, though he's a friend, i do 14:13:06 Unquestioningly, I mean. 14:13:35 fungot: what should i code on now? 14:13:35 jix: the acme clone? :o) ( fnord 14:13:50 fungot: what's the acme clone? 14:13:50 jix: http://www.bloodandcoffee.net/ campbell/ txt/ cps-tutorial.log it gets to the bottom. 14:16:21 Acme is the Plan 9 editor/development-environment/thing. 14:17:23 ah 14:17:27 but no i will not code on that 14:18:48 Well, then you won't be happy and successful. It's as simple as that. (Disclaimer: fungot might also be wrong, though I don't see how that would be possible.) 14:18:48 fizzie: is there any docs about any bytecode system used by any scheme? i'm using it for my needs. 14:19:50 I guess it all depends on whether cfunge's ? instruction always chooses correctly. 14:20:41 how is it implemented 14:24:07 Seems to be the two lowest bits out of random(), seeded by gettimeofday tv_usec member. Or at least that's what it looked like. 14:31:09 hmmm seeded on app start or with every call? 14:31:36 if it were the lower two bits of rand and not random it would be pretty predictable IIRC 14:32:03 Uh, app start, of course. 14:32:28 well some people want to be "extra sure" and seed before every rand call 14:32:49 that combined with the time as source can make it pretty much unrandom ^^ 14:33:09 And as far as I know glibc's rand()/srand() just use random()/srandom() initially. But all C books and other sources warn about rand's lowest bits, so I'm sure there have been crappy rand(3) implementations. 14:34:12 hmm at least the mac os x manpage of random warns about rand usage..... the rand manpage doesn't -_- 14:34:34 Heh, that's a clever trick. 14:35:28 oh wait it kind of warns about it 14:35:41 rand, rand_r, srand, sranddev -- bad random number generator 14:35:43 in the title 14:36:13 The rand(3) man page on this Debian system says: "However, on older rand() implementations, and on current implementations on different systems, the lower-order bits are much less random than the higher-order bits. Do not use this function in applications intended to be portable when good randomness is needed. (Use random(3) instead.)" 14:37:11 SunOS title is more politically-correct: "rand, srand, rand_r - simple random-number generator" 14:47:13 -!- Corun has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 14:48:07 okay 14:48:09 munich rocks 14:49:03 even the people who come to read off the radiator thingies (know what i mean?) offer you IT work 14:49:06 :) 14:54:20 hmm apple sits in munich too right? 14:54:34 apple in germany is that 14:57:29 yep 15:29:49 -!- FireFly has joined. 15:38:03 -!- Hiato has joined. 15:43:16 -!- Corun has joined. 15:53:58 :/ that's bad 15:54:06 what? 15:54:15 that apple germany is in munich 15:54:27 o.o 15:54:29 how so? 15:55:11 i live in bremen 15:55:32 hehe 15:55:51 i suggest we skip the "your city sucks" part :) 15:56:09 and some apple guy said i could/should do an internship there when i study 15:56:53 i just moved to munich from near hanover / göttingen / braunschweig 15:57:11 flexo: didn't got your last msg because of special chars and being unable to configure macirssi 15:57:22 i just moved to munich from near hanover / goettingen / braunschweig 15:57:40 ah 15:58:06 oberharz.. clausthal-zellerfeld actually 15:58:11 hmm i'm finishing school this year and i planned to study here in bremen too 15:58:20 but bremen sucks :) 15:58:31 i don't think so ^^ 15:59:04 the munich city center is really beautiful 15:59:32 i know 15:59:58 but still it wouldn't be the number 1 place i want to live 16:00:11 (granted, there are several bavarian beautiful cities) 16:00:35 yea well. the rents are somewhat expensive hehe 16:00:37 actually i don't know what place that would be but for now bremen seems best for me... but that can change over time 16:01:36 paying 575 eur with heating included for 38,5 m^2 x.x 16:02:11 (and given the district this is rather cheap..) 16:02:18 hmm since i never had to rent a flat yet i have no idea how expensive that is usually or here 16:02:31 in bremen? maybe the half :) 16:03:01 i think "half of it" would be more correct ;) 16:03:29 so yea, apple is here. not the reason i moved here though heh 16:03:43 have been doing flight- and maintaince-simulators for eurocopter and eads for the last year 16:03:49 ah 16:04:22 commuting between home and munich twice a week.. 16:04:35 i have been doing work on nautics-simulators (dunno if that is translated correctly) :) 16:04:45 which means getting up at 4am on monday to start working at 10:30 16:04:50 ouch 16:04:54 doing 10 hour days the rest of the week 16:05:07 because of going back on friday at 12:00 16:05:13 that's hard.... 16:05:37 .. yea. now i moved :) 16:06:06 but what i did was just 3d graphics nothing specific to simulation 16:06:11 the work is fun 16:06:41 next project will be integrating the control hardware from one flight-simulator with the simulation from another 16:06:45 which means integration testing. fun :) 16:07:15 but it's one of the reasons i want to stay in bremen... i can work there basically whanever i want and get payed pretty good if i compare it to what others in my school do to earn some money ;) 16:08:04 well 16:08:18 you know what everyone says... there is no way around the south of germany in the IT sector.. ;) 16:09:06 as i just told you. even the "heizungsableser" are desperately searching for qualified employees ;) 16:09:22 well i don't want to work for a heizungsableser ^^ 16:09:24 :P 16:09:37 (even if it's IT work) 16:09:37 seriously though 16:09:42 there's posters everywhere 16:10:10 17:02 < jix> well i don't want to work for a heizungsableser ^^ 16:10:57 ^ ofcourse not as a... 16:11:11 well 16:11:14 don't know the right term 16:11:17 flexo: i got it that way (hence i added (even if it's IT work)) 16:11:24 no 16:11:25 i mean 16:11:42 i mean not as an employee ofcourse 16:12:03 i've been working as a freelancer for the past two years 16:12:14 and i seriously don't care what customers do for their living :) 16:12:32 well but from what i can imagine the IT work a heizungsableser-company needs isn't that interesting 16:12:33 if they've got an interesting project to work on - we'll see 16:12:38 that was my point 16:12:40 nah 16:12:44 not for the company 16:13:27 he's working as a freelancer too 16:14:01 this was not related to "heizungsablesen" in any way 16:14:08 ah now i got it ^^ 16:14:12 except the fact that he seems to earn a few bucks by doing it 16:15:04 really got to get back into freelancing 16:15:15 for obvious reasons i didn't have much time last year.. 16:15:34 but since it will take some years till i finish university and i'm not even sure in what exact direction i will go i think it would be bad to move to southern germany just because everyone sais there is no way around southern germany for IT work 16:15:58 the weather is better too 16:16:05 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 16:16:06 ^^ 16:16:12 i'm fine with the weather here 16:16:13 there are some language issues though 16:16:37 uhm 16:16:39 no you are not. 16:16:40 :) 16:16:54 i am 16:16:55 i've often been in bremen 16:16:59 it's not as worse as the oberharz 16:17:09 but it's not something to be fine with :) 16:17:12 -!- BeholdMyBot has joined. 16:17:19 hey everybody 16:17:24 check my bot! 16:17:29 (this is my bot) 16:17:33 flexo: what does anoy you about the weather in bremen? 16:17:33 now... 16:17:38 ^bf >+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>>>++++++++[<++++>-]<.>>>++++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<---.<<<<.+++.------.--------.>>+. 16:17:38 Hello World! 16:17:39 Interpreting >+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>>>++++++++[<++++>-]<.>>>++++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<---.<<<<.+++.------.--------.>>+. 16:17:39 Hello World! 16:17:49 jix: it's cold, rainy, gray - just as all nothern germany 16:17:49 uhm 16:17:56 *northern 16:18:11 okay. seems i'm not the first one who made a bf-interpreting bot 16:18:18 that's dissapointing 16:18:20 :( 16:18:26 it's not too hot here i like that 16:18:30 -!- BeholdMyGlory has left (?). 16:18:55 -!- BeholdMyBot has left (?). 16:19:04 it's not "hot" in the south either. just very comfortable. 16:19:05 and green 16:19:07 sunny 16:19:11 well 16:19:12 not now 16:19:14 but it will be# 16:19:15 :) 16:19:16 well when i was in munich the last time it was way too hot 16:20:37 but i think this "where to live" discussion is going nowhere and is quite redundand 16:20:45 ^^ 16:21:15 yea 16:21:23 going nowhere because you fail to accept the truth :) 16:39:42 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 16:40:49 -!- sebbu has quit (Read error: 148 (No route to host)). 16:40:50 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 16:41:50 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 16:50:03 16:18 okay. seems i'm not the first one who made a bf-interpreting bot 16:50:03 16:18 that's dissapointing 16:50:07 So virginly innocent. 16:50:11 fungot is written in befunge by the way. 16:50:11 ehird: when people poke me at night, dressed completely in white and all sorts of odd things, so it was 2002 16:50:20 http://zem.fi/~fis/fungot.b98.txt 16:50:20 ehird: and er, " singularity"? so it's serious? 16:57:25 lol 16:59:57 -!- p5[ziiz] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 17:06:31 -!- kar8nga has joined. 17:11:36 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 17:12:10 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:17:47 ehird, hi 17:17:54 has ais been on today? 17:17:58 yes. 17:18:01 in ##nomic. 17:18:05 11am 17:18:05 ah 17:18:10 odd he wasn't in here today? 17:18:15 why is that odd? 17:18:28 he usually is on mondays 17:18:31 depends what you mean by "today" 17:18:45 03:18:22 * ais523 wonders if BeholdMyBot interprets any esolangs yet 17:18:54 hm ok 17:19:03 ah now I see it 17:30:50 i would like to warn people against visiting Trondheim in January. 17:31:37 unless you are an american billionaire, in which case i would like to invite you to come here, break some bones, and sue the bejeezus out of our snow cleaning services. 17:33:01 -!- kar8nga has left (?). 17:37:09 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 17:37:20 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:37:27 hi oerjan 17:38:37 O_o was that automatic? 17:38:42 no 17:39:36 well hi then 17:40:52 btw, was this the channel where you were discussing volatile and signals the other day? 17:40:59 yes 17:41:09 yesterday 17:41:39 did you get around to discussing sig_atomic_t? if not I believe someone may have drawn incorrect conclusions 17:42:02 nope 17:45:53 okay, as I suspected... I won't waste time explaining it though since it's all described elsewhere anyway 17:55:11 -!- asiekierk has joined. 17:55:19 I'm uploading another sock puppet movie 17:55:23 This time, no high-pitched voices 17:55:25 and some POINT 17:55:38 The points are: ".", ".", "." and ".". 17:56:01 but under what topology? 17:57:19 ...topology? 17:57:22 . . . 17:57:37 * oerjan cackles evilly 17:57:51 Anyway, it's 23MB 17:58:02 ((i hope YouTube WILL make it HQ this time)) 17:58:16 it will be my pleasure not to watch it 17:58:31 man 17:58:37 and i wasted 1 hour of my life to do that :( 17:58:41 NEWS @ SOCK 17:58:51 NEWS @ SOCK | ehird doesn't want to watch my videos! 17:59:04 ehird: hey don't talk like that! you'll force me to watch it just out of pity :( 17:59:17 :D 18:00:31 but under what topology? <-- heh 18:00:41 yay 18:01:03 oerjan, I *think* I understood it, I know a bit of basic topology. 18:01:05 anywhere else that would have been too obscure for _anyone_ to get it :) 18:01:11 i got it 18:01:12 :\ 18:01:13 -!- MigoMipo has quit ("Life without danger is a waste of oxygen"). 18:02:59 asiekierk: in mathematics, nearly every "set of points" comes with a mathematical structure called a topology. 18:06:48 -!- Mony has joined. 18:10:09 oerjan, also a topologist can save on expenses for coffee breaks in a unusual way. :) 18:11:03 er... 18:11:16 oerjan, I'm quite sure this joke is old 18:11:17 don't try and understand it, I think it would kill you 18:11:29 ehird: so you've heard it? 18:11:35 nope 18:11:35 ehird, I didn't make it up 18:11:36 but AnMaster's telling it 18:11:49 you mean he'll mess it up somehow? 18:11:59 no, but if he thinks it's funny, it's probably _awful_ 18:12:00 so the point disappears... 18:12:06 groan 18:12:10 haha 18:12:14 oerjan, that one was good 18:12:17 see? 18:12:22 * AnMaster drinks a cup of coffee and then eats the cup as a doughnut. 18:12:22 my logic is infallable 18:12:29 also, completely unintended until i clicked return 18:12:45 ah 18:13:18 i was fearing a klein bottle 18:13:42 * oerjan traps AnMaster in one 18:13:45 ehird, was it that bad? I'm sure there was a flaw in the logic. (Or as we can say in Swedish, a hole in the argument!) 18:13:56 *groan* 18:14:08 oerjan, yes that one was much worse 18:14:26 which for puns means better 18:14:29 One day I'll buy one of those Acme-brand glass Klein bottles. They come with a calibrated decal showing the volume, and everything: http://www.kleinbottle.com/images/classicbigcal1.jpg 18:14:33 oerjan, heh 18:15:11 fizzie, that is a fake one 18:15:24 but is it the inside or outside volume? 18:15:41 oerjan, heh 18:15:43 18:15 fizzie, that is a fake one 18:15:44 no fucking shit 18:15:52 wanna show me a real klein bottle? 18:16:02 ehird, alas, I can't 18:16:34 first we need to invent wormholes. then it will be a simple matter. 18:17:37 possibly also strange matter 18:18:25 oerjan, couldn't you do it if you could access a 4th dimension (not time) 18:18:42 yes 18:25:53 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-mqlXEv31k 18:28:53 * oerjan wonders if you could construct a functional, sweet edible coffee cup 18:31:40 * ehird writes a script to print out all unused 4-character-total domain names registratable by foreigners 18:32:18 oh.no 18:32:27