00:00:18 cheap or poor? 00:00:27 Both, I think. 00:00:36 oh no. 00:00:39 a _terrible_ bug 00:01:46 hmm. how advanced is introduction to algorithms, and why clrs? 00:01:54 Well, it's the classic. 00:02:03 And it's called CLRS because of the authors. 00:02:04 yes but i haven't read it. i assume you have 00:02:06 oh. 00:02:16 right. 00:02:44 Well, it's no Knuth. So it's not very advanced-advanced. But it's (maybe) good to have a reference book of them basics, just in case. 00:03:13 The first edition was abbreviated CLR; the second edition added an author and a letter in the abbrev. 00:03:20 does it prove algos, or just state them? 00:03:45 or a random mixture 00:04:07 Something like that. It's not *that* formal, but it's no cookbook either. 00:04:31 http://pastie.org/364233.txt?key=9rpypyo03fxtfukjimeq 00:04:35 There's a reasonable amount of work done on computing worst-case asymptotic effectiveness and things like that. 00:04:40 Bracism->Python translator. 00:04:44 Written in Bracism, of course. :-P 00:04:55 well yes, but that's much easier than correctness proofs, ime 00:05:13 wait actually i broke it fuck 00:05:22 ehird: how does it do dictionaries? 00:05:27 bsmntbombdood: cleverly 00:05:35 ill show the non-obfuscated source 00:05:35 second 00:06:17 just need to fix this one bug 00:06:34 oklopol: Sure, that's probably why they've bothered to do them. 00:07:06 bsmntbombdood: http://pastie.org/private/wqoy0vq8pdrfkapgzgg 00:07:15 should be fairly easy to figure out how it works 00:07:16 because ordos and the like are often pretty much just arithmetic, with a small layer of explanation 00:07:55 i read *an* introduction to algorithms at some point i think 00:08:07 i mean skimmed through it because i already knew all the algos 00:09:31 no actually there were a few trees i didn't know about, these things where you have the strings as paths in a tree, and can thus check what's in the dict etc. 00:09:38 but anyway, i wonder what book that was 00:10:17 bsmntbombdood: see how it works? 00:10:20 it was really big, but most of it was sample code, which was written in C# i think, and thus took the bulk of the book (levenshtein was like 3 pages) 00:10:21 no. 00:10:42 bsmntbombdood: :D, basically, it only triggers a block if you have a colon, whitespace, then a {, BUT 00:10:51 it only does that trigger if the last { seen entered a block 00:11:00 so {...} doesn't enter a block, no colon 00:11:01 but 00:11:04 {'a': {}} 00:11:05 doesn't either 00:11:09 since the last { seen didn't open a block 00:11:19 it's an essentially foolproof algorithm 00:12:02 CLRS code samples are all in their own pseudo-code thing. 00:12:19 pseudo-code is a great evil. 00:12:56 The book's web page has their LaTeX macro for typesetting that pseudo-code, I've used it a couple of time for presentation slides and stuff. 00:13:37 fizzie are you IRL buds with lament I have this fucked up view of #esoteric, and all the ops know each other. 00:13:56 ehird: No. I don't even know which country lament is from. 00:14:03 he lives in canada. 00:14:10 but he's russian 00:14:10 but he's russian iirc 00:14:13 snap 00:14:28 He's like a superhero 00:14:34 "LAMENT! He lives in canada... 00:14:36 But he's RUSSIAN!" 00:14:50 yeah, i wonder why that was such a crucial detail 00:15:04 i mean i'm australian, but i don't mention it much 00:15:08 lol 00:15:13 lament has inherent russian-nature 00:15:23 wait oklopol are you really australian 00:15:35 ehird: how really are we talking? 00:15:36 From the people in the nick-list I only IRL-know ineiros. And I might've seen Deewiant accidentally, since we're in the same university. 00:15:42 oklopol: like, really 00:15:48 like really really? 00:15:53 fizzie: wait you know ineiros the famous idler? WHOAAAAAAAAA. 00:16:04 he's been idle _thirty two days_ 00:16:44 i haven't seen esotericers irl, not even myself 00:16:44 Not on the IRCnet side of the fence. 00:16:50 at least directly and completely 00:17:01 IRCnet is a crazy finnish thing. 00:17:09 oklopol: there needs to be an #esoteric meetup sometime :||||||| 00:17:17 hehe. 00:17:37 would be so coo 00:17:38 l 00:17:39 It's not that Finnish. Although I haven't seen statistics. 00:18:02 There are .de people around, at least. 00:18:06 night 00:20:53 Seems to be sort-of losing in popularity: http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=IRCnet&submenu=years when compared to the trend in http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=freenode&submenu=years 00:21:46 Freenode has only had 52041 users max? 00:21:48 Seriously? 00:22:23 Well, it's not a big network. 00:22:37 It feels like one of the biggest... 00:22:59 :wolfe.freenode.net 266 fasdfa :Current global users: 44083 Max: 52254 00:23:28 Must sleeps now, night. 00:24:22 hmmm 00:24:28 so in haskell all object are immutable 00:24:38 does that mean they can use reference-counting for gc? 00:24:55 no 00:25:45 you can still have circular references that go out of scope 00:25:45 no? 00:26:00 how can you have a cricular reference? 00:26:09 bsmntbombdood: easy 00:26:12 let x = [x] 00:26:15 a=1:a? 00:26:21 x=[x] doesn't work 00:26:26 oh 00:26:27 right 00:26:28 types 00:26:30 :P 00:26:37 newtype Foo = Foo Foo 00:26:41 myFoo = Foo myFoo 00:26:45 yeah it's not like types are that crucial in haskell :P 00:26:51 oh hmm 00:27:16 bsmntbombdood: in fact, circular structures are very good for haskell programs 00:27:22 e.g. a fold over an infinite list is an interesting control structure 00:27:59 bsmntbombdood: take this with a grain of salt though, i'm not feeling all that bright today, there might be some other optimizations for gc at least, given immutability. 00:28:28 i just haven't thought or read about it, and clearly you can at least do what makes mutable stuff circumvent refcounting. 00:31:45 http://www.amazon.com/Garbage-Collection-Algorithms-Automatic-Management/dp/0471941484 00:31:48 that book is $100 00:35:33 lol cool 00:39:39 http://product.half.ebay.com/_W0QQcpidZ405747QQprZ305965 00:40:01 1996? 00:40:09 Garbage collection has progressed a loooooong way since then. 00:40:28 "Visible shelf wear -- may have some notes/markings on pages" - $32.00 00:40:56 lofl 00:41:06 Never used - may have notes 00:41:12 lol 00:41:15 lofl: lolling on the floor laughing? 00:41:22 or 00:41:26 laughing on the floor louding? 00:41:39 there is no expansion 00:41:40 just lofl. 00:41:43 Loudly on the floor laughing. 00:41:45 oic 00:41:48 I am loudly on the floor. 00:41:48 kind of like oko then 00:50:05 I see that my name has been said, so I look up through history to see in what context it was said, and am subjected to THAT :P 00:52:04 what was it 00:55:51 mnomnomno 01:09:08 ehird: I think I got the persistance of triggers working. http://dpaste.com/110549/ 01:09:46 just need to call bot.save_callbacks() to save, and it is loaded upon restart 01:11:54 -!- Corun has quit ("Leaving"). 01:13:52 ehird: Strangely, the issue with the topic-change doesn't seem to have any obvious solution. The bot sends the TOPIC-command to the server, which responds with the standard ":nick!user@host TOPIC #chan :...", but the topic doen't seem to get changed anyway. 01:17:57 -!- seabot has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 01:37:49 is something besides bsmntbombdood developing bsmnt_bot ?!?! 01:48:29 well... ehird asked me to make added triggers persistant 01:51:30 ive begun coding the interp for my language :o 01:52:34 and its working :D 02:31:25 >>> import each 02:31:27 >>> ['a', 'b', 'C'].each().upper() 02:31:29 eo['A', 'B', 'C'] 02:31:30 >>> 02:38:57 I no longer like Python. 02:39:44 Then again, you can do wild things like that in Haskell, too. 02:39:52 I got the idea from IO 02:40:20 You mean you can actually do that in Haskell? 02:40:29 ? 02:40:43 Er. 02:40:48 however, implementing it in python required using ctypes to get at the internal dict :D 02:40:53 Never mind. 02:41:13 I don't know haskell :( 02:41:19 I'm afraid to learn it because then I will forget about prolog 02:41:37 newtype Each a = Each [a]; instance Stuff a => Stuff (Each a) where f (Each a) = Each (map f a) 02:42:01 Where Stuff is an arbitrary class, and f is an arbitrary class variable thingy. 02:42:26 I'll get back to you on that when I understand Haskell. ;) 02:42:33 :-) 02:43:03 * kerlo ponders the continuous functions in Sierpinsky space 02:45:48 Sierpinski, rather. 02:53:05 Oh, cool, a function to the Sierpinski space is continuous if and only if the set of functions it maps to 1 is open. 02:54:04 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 03:40:38 -!- bsmnt_bot has quit (Excess Flood). 03:41:36 ... 04:00:02 dc is awesome 04:00:15 it's sooo esoteric even though it was intended as a serious language 04:24:27 -!- puzzlet_ has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 04:25:34 -!- puzzlet has joined. 04:30:43 :D 04:36:58 i am teh bored 04:45:38 bsmntbombdood: HELP ME WRITE ZEE 04:45:52 whut is that 04:46:22 ZEE is a game I'm writing, it stands for Zoom-Enhance-Extrapolate. It's a parody of those scenes in spy movies where they magically ... well, zoom, enhance and extrapolate images. 04:46:27 It's sort of an image-maze game. 04:46:59 i don't believe in games 04:47:15 You don't believe that they exist? :P 04:50:16 good god, cpython is a quarter-million sloc 04:51:23 i was gonna take a look at it 05:27:38 -!- oerjan has joined. 06:25:17 my language is working! :D 06:25:20 well, not all of it 06:25:23 but some of it 06:25:26 the important stuff! 06:25:36 so you did solve your parsing problem? 06:25:51 oh, no, that wasn't for this yet. im going to need to solve it eventually. 06:25:54 and no, i didn't. not yet 06:26:00 what kind of parsing is it? 06:26:06 what do you mean? 06:26:24 LR parsing or recursive descent, or what? 06:26:34 havent decided/determined yet. 06:28:12 anyway, the thing is that when you recognize a non-terminal token, you should know what tokens it consists of. 06:28:46 so you can build the tree out of the trees for the subtokens at the same time... 06:29:15 im not entirely sure how you mean that but ok :P 06:29:52 well consider LR parsing. you have some tokens on the stack, and recognize that they form a non-terminal production 06:30:17 so you do a reduction, perhaps after considering lookahead 06:31:02 now, if you already have the trees for the subtokens built up, you can just combine them to get the tree for the replacement non-terminal 06:31:24 sdjfhsajkdhfs 06:31:25 dude 06:31:31 dont even 06:31:32 :P 06:32:09 once more: you build the trees _while_ you are recognizing tokens, not afterwards 06:32:22 ok. 06:33:23 each token comes with its subparse tree 06:39:06 -!- bsmnt_bot has joined. 06:39:11 -!- bsmnt_bot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:42:58 man 06:43:04 the ruby socket docs are horrible 06:43:07 all ruby docs are 06:43:11 wtf is wrong with these people 06:50:35 -!- Alt-255 has joined. 06:50:39 haha nice 06:50:44 -!- Alt-255 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:51:26 -!- Alt-255 has joined. 06:52:23 -!- Alt-255 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:53:36 -!- Alt-255 has joined. 06:53:40 -!- Alt-255 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:53:59 -!- Alt-255 has joined. 06:54:06 -!- Alt-255 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 06:55:12 -!- Alt-255 has joined. 06:55:18 -!- Alt-255 has quit (Remote closed the connection). 07:17:18 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 07:39:30 guys! 07:41:42 -!- kerlobot has joined. 07:52:02 -!- ehird has quit (K-lined). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:02:06 -!- psygnisf_ has joined. 08:02:16 -!- psygnisf_ has changed nick to psygnisfive_. 08:02:16 -!- GregorR has quit (Remote closed the connection). 08:02:30 K-lined :P 08:02:39 -!- psygnisfive_ has changed nick to psygnisfive__. 08:02:41 hm 08:02:45 i seem to have died 08:02:47 what did i miss 08:02:57 -!- psygnisfive__ has changed nick to psygnisfive_. 08:03:43 -!- psygnisfive_ has changed nick to psygnisfive_____. 08:03:50 -!- psygnisfive_____ has changed nick to p5. 08:03:56 * ehird has quit (K-lined) <-- wow, why? 08:04:02 what did he do? 08:04:11 -!- p5 has changed nick to cygnus5. 08:04:17 hrmph 08:04:27 maybe too many Excess Flood... 08:04:57 Heh, and he's always saying that Freenode admins do nothing. 08:05:33 -!- AntiGravityBot has joined. 08:05:36 :D 08:06:53 my bot is sexy innit 08:06:53 :D 08:11:25 -!- ehird has joined. 08:11:30 ehird, hello 08:11:37 -!- ehird has quit (K-lined). 08:11:39 what the heck did you do to get klined... 08:11:40 wtf 08:11:56 MizardX, maybe too many clients from one host? 08:12:00 -!- AntiGravityBot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 08:12:18 -!- AntiGravityBot has joined. 08:13:37 -!- psygnisfive has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 08:21:20 -!- AntiGravityBot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 08:21:29 -!- cygnus5 has changed nick to psygnisfive. 08:22:31 -!- AntiGravityBot has joined. 08:22:38 so! 08:22:47 i now have a bot that runs most of my little language. :D 08:28:30 -!- AntiGravityBot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 08:34:30 -!- puzzlet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 08:34:34 -!- puzzlet has joined. 08:47:29 -!- GregorR has joined. 08:57:01 -!- ais523 has joined. 08:57:34 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("Client Excited"). 09:00:43 -!- ais523 has quit (Client Quit). 10:29:16 -!- puzzlet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 10:29:25 -!- puzzlet has joined. 11:06:34 GregorR: It's sort of an image-maze game. <<< like, all you can do is zoom, but only some parts of the picture contain details you can actually zoom to? 11:11:49 somehow the fractal's structure hints where the path continues 11:12:02 and at the end, there's a little winking smiley 11:12:04 ";)" 11:12:16 so you know you finally did it. 11:16:35 hm 11:16:42 a lot of games are way too weak on the plot I think 11:17:12 However, I'm not good at making up game plots myself... 11:17:28 Two games in particular. 11:17:33 1) Chess 2) Tetris 11:17:37 both need more plot :D 11:17:42 no they don't 11:18:00 oklopol, well, not "need" indeed. But it wouldn't hurt. 11:18:20 it would hurt, it would just distract from the games' actual problems 11:18:45 oklopol, well, you could include it as "background info" or something 11:18:48 well okay, i'm not saying anything bad about tetris, but chess doesn't really work as a computer game. 11:18:57 oklopol, agreed. 11:18:58 because you can't build on it. 11:19:07 um? 11:19:09 it's always the same, change it, and it simply isn't chess anymore. 11:19:20 oh that would be fun, chess with trench digging! 11:19:20 thus it's more of a puzzle imo 11:19:23 :D 11:19:43 puzzle-typey game, not the kind that's fun to play with the computer 11:19:56 oklopol, make chess an RTS! 11:20:02 real-time system? 11:20:14 real time strategy 11:20:22 oh. right lol. 11:20:27 as opposed to turn based 11:20:59 trench digging? 11:21:18 oklopol, yes? 11:21:34 just making sure i heard 11:21:41 oklopol, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trench_warfare 11:21:57 you dig them 11:22:13 oklopol, also add hitpoints to the chess pieces 11:22:18 right that kinda trench. 11:22:19 and ranged weapons 11:22:29 i just thought you wanted to reroute rivahs or something. 11:22:41 oklopol, now, at which point is it no longer chess? :D 11:22:59 i'd say pretty much instantly, and that's my point 11:23:05 hehe 11:24:14 it's not a very continuous game, on any level, it breaks easily, in a way 11:24:49 well okay not that easily, i guess this is more about what i consider the chess philosophy to be. 11:27:03 chess is more of an algorithmic game, you can't continuously add challenge to it, as material, i guess is my point. 11:28:26 the only way you can safely add challenge is to make the AI gradually better, but, well, first of all that doesn't really have a continuing feel to it. and second of all AI isn't inherently very gradually enhancable. 11:28:52 it just isn't all that visible how good the AI is, at least to me. it just sometimes wins, sometimes not. 11:29:10 i mean unless you're really good at chess, which i obviously am not. 11:29:20 heh 11:29:37 oklopol, nor am I 11:30:04 AnMaster: i know dat 11:31:22 tetris is pretty easy to build on, the general idea of dropping shit into a pile with rewrite rules is used quite a lot 11:32:16 not directly though, ofc, if you just increased the size of the dropped objects, and kept them random, you'd never get a complete row 11:32:45 you'd have to add fuzzy row removing 11:32:54 which again isn't very tetrisy. 11:33:32 but, if the puzzles were handmade, or, well, even just generated more sensibly, you could even have continuous tetris 11:33:58 of course, if you fucked up, you might never be able to get the piece destroyed. 11:34:08 because it might not fit anything else 11:34:19 hm 11:34:34 continuous tetris? 11:34:43 pieces of arbitrary form. 11:34:46 ah 11:35:23 of course closed, having holes would make it kinda hard to remove the insides (impossible, assuming the pieces can't roll around, which isn't tetrisy again) 11:44:51 oklopol, you could also make something like, tetris but remove blocks of same colors if they are large enough 11:45:02 I think I have seen that once 11:45:06 * AnMaster tries to remember where 11:45:46 oh yes... http://kfouleggs.sourceforge.net/ 11:46:21 yes, that's the most common rewrite-rule-pile-based game. 11:46:32 it has tons of variations 12:00:56 true 12:08:58 -!- ais523 has joined. 13:11:47 -!- ehird has joined. 13:13:06 -!- bsmnt_bot has joined. 13:13:08 -!- bsmnt_bot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 13:25:57 WTF @ K-LINE 13:26:02 -!- ais523 has quit (Client Quit). 13:26:42 17:13:52 ehird: Strangely, the issue with the topic-change doesn't seem to have any obvious solution. The bot sends the TOPIC-command to the server, which responds with the standard ":nick!user@host TOPIC #chan :...", but the topic doen't seem to get changed anyway. 13:26:44 rate throttling? 13:27:10 18:40:48 however, implementing it in python required using ctypes to get at the internal dict :D 13:27:12 no, it really didn't 13:27:18 you can implement that trivially 13:28:31 Anyway, I was offline when I was klined. 13:28:34 I am asking #freenode now. 13:29:04 ehird: No. If I look at the console window (running the bot locally), the bot gets the standard response for successful topic change, but I don't see that in my normal IRC client. 13:29:17 MizardX: That's very wtf. 13:34:21 told me to email kline@freenode.net.. 13:34:23 I love indirection. 13:34:32 -!- ais523 has joined. 13:34:44 Hi ais523. 13:34:49 Why'dya think I got klined twice overnight? 13:35:12 no idea 13:35:16 which network? Freenode? 13:35:59 Yep. 13:36:04 I've sent an email to kline@freenode.net. 13:36:13 Very WTFy. 13:36:29 ais523: are there automatic K-lines 13:36:30 ? 13:36:34 maybe some nick that yours is linked to got hijacked? 13:36:38 and went mad? 13:37:19 There used to be automatic K-lines on joining known botnet control channels, but that probably doesn't apply. 13:37:36 also on joining GNAA channels 13:37:41 hmm... do you have autojoin on invite? 13:38:02 13:36 maybe some nick that yours is linked to got hijacked? 13:38:02 13:36 and went mad? 13:38:09 Considering the hostname was eso-std.org I very much doubt it. 13:38:12 that combination seems to be an obvious way to get someone klined, if it works 13:38:17 And I do not have autojoin on invite because it was my _freaking bouncer_ 13:38:23 Also, I've joined #gnaa on freenode before. No kline. 13:38:26 anyway, in a lecture, I'd better go 13:38:30 -!- ais523 has quit (Client Quit). 13:40:00 What, #gnaa does not have hot african sex? 13:49:53 -!- ehird has quit (K-lined). 13:51:46 Maybe they didn't like his tone in the email. 13:52:33 :P 13:52:53 maybe he should ask his big brother for help 14:06:28 -!- seabot has joined. 14:12:09 -!- seabot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 14:29:31 -!- seabot has joined. 14:35:21 -!- seabot has quit (Remote closed the connection). 15:03:14 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 15:15:52 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 15:16:38 -!- join has joined. 15:17:06 -!- join has changed nick to Guest21688. 15:18:01 -!- Guest21688 has changed nick to Slereah_. 15:22:05 -!- puzzlet has quit (Remote closed the connection). 15:22:10 -!- puzzlet has joined. 15:23:26 -!- FireFly has joined. 15:24:53 -!- ehird_ has joined. 15:24:59 The fuckers. I'm still fucking banned. 15:25:06 God, freenode is a bunch of incompetend retards. 15:25:18 *incompetend 15:25:19 *incompetent 15:27:50 You'd better watch that mouth of yours, they'll be k-lining you for calling them retards. 15:28:01 Verily. 15:29:32 It'd be nice if they, say, unbanned me while trying to fix it. 15:29:40 Instead of "contact our shitty issue tracker so we can ignore it". 15:32:01 -!- Slereah has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 15:45:42 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 15:51:56 -!- jix has joined. 16:02:13 -!- dbc has joined. 16:03:46 ehird / ehird_ 16:03:51 how do you propose this be trivially implemented 16:04:35 specifically, you can't just do list.foo = 'bar' 16:08:15 what is subclassing 16:08:24 each([1,2,3]) is so bad? :P 16:08:55 also im ehird_ cuz ehird got k-lined. 16:18:41 hi comex ico 16:20:46 yes 16:20:48 it is 16:21:01 because it requires thinking you're going to use "each" before typing out the list 16:21:08 this is a laziness construct 16:21:12 " what is cursor positioning " 16:21:21 however, obviously its uses in python are limited 16:21:57 clearly we should all use scheme 16:22:04 in io you can do, say, list(foo, bar, baz) each setNumber(x += 1) 16:22:08 clearly we should all use scheme 16:30:06 AAAAAAAAAAA 16:30:46 -!- MigoMipo has left (?). 16:31:21 still fucking klined 16:43:47 -!- ais523 has joined. 16:59:25 -!- oerjan has joined. 16:59:35 hi ais523 oerjan 16:59:43 hi ehird_ oerjan 16:59:49 *hi oerjan ehird_ 16:59:53 hi ais523 ehird_ 16:59:55 we need some chance at symmetry here... 17:00:12 wait what 17:00:17 well we failed 17:00:28 so, now taking bets as to when freenode will de-kline my bouncer again 17:00:46 ouch 17:01:02 what did it do? 17:01:10 nothing, read the logs 17:01:13 keeps happening 17:01:16 * ais523 vaguely wonders why the desktop background on the Windows computer next to me says "Please Check Monitor For Updated Password" 17:01:21 freenode are incompetent maximus 17:02:00 my guess is it's something to do with the practice on the lecture hall computers that they use of putting a guest username/password onto the monitor so visiting lecturers can log in 17:02:02 = incompetentissimus, iirc 17:02:07 and it's somehow been deployed over here by mistake 17:02:23 there isn't a username/password on this monitor 17:02:43 but then, weirder was the time when I came to a similar computer and it was apparently off 17:02:55 none of the LEDs on the front looked on (but it was sunny and I couldn't tell for certain) 17:03:01 neither the keyboard nor mouse did anything 17:03:16 the only thing that made me wonder if it was really off was the Windows XP screensaver on the monitor 17:03:24 -!- ehird_ has set topic: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. 17:03:29 wait what? 17:03:31 bsmnt_bot 17:03:37 ... guess it got klined too 17:04:27 perhaps bsmnt_bot was the reason 17:04:38 was it going on a rampage, I wonder? 17:04:44 it could be controlled by arbitrary people... 17:04:51 does it have logs? 17:04:56 I doubt it, it didn't quit as k-lined 17:05:01 just as connection reset by remote 17:05:07 whereas I was explicitly auto-klined 17:05:10 or, umm, klined by a fucktard 17:05:19 but i'd prefer to think its incompetent programming 17:07:22 Chess plot: You are the king of a great empire, but for years there has been diplomatic tension with the empire just down the road. Now, their fury at you for completely duplicating their army in every detail has heatened so that they've declared war! Neither of your armies are very large (you have enough people to recruit a huge army, but then it wouldn't be an exact duplicate of your neighbors!), so this singular battle will likely determine the vic 17:07:24 tor in the war. Now, send your footsoldiers to their almost certain doom, as they are but pawns in ... oh, never mind. Welcome to the world of CHESS! 17:07:50 GregorR: so why can you only move one a turn? 17:08:14 That has nothing to do with the plot, that's just a game rule. 17:08:24 The plot never actually explains the rules, that would be nonsensical. 17:08:40 ah, it's just a chess-inspired film 17:08:44 http://groups.google.co.uk/group/net.micro.pc/msg/993d3e017d041ed4 17:08:48 The first me too post. EVER. 17:08:48 you should make Tetris: the Movie 17:08:53 I've wanted someone to make that for ages 17:08:59 A plague upon csu-cs!casterli. 17:09:00 ehird_: how do you know it's the first ever? 17:09:14 ais523: google sez so 17:09:18