00:00:05 `i 00:00:13 wtf nuggets 00:00:24 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:00:38 oh 00:01:07 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:01:09 `i 00:01:12 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:01:23 ... yikes, issue 00:04:15 here goes 00:04:22 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:04:23 `i 00:04:23 ! Result: i 00:04:26 Fuck yes 00:04:27 oerjan: 00:04:29 ``ii 00:04:30 ! Result: i 00:04:39 ``|ii!h 00:04:39 "" (line 1, column 4): 00:04:39 unexpected "i" 00:04:39 expecting "!" or end of input 00:04:43 ```|ii!h 00:04:44 ! Result: v 00:04:48 ... 00:04:51 Hunh. 00:04:56 O H 00:05:02 Wait. 00:05:03 Hunh. 00:05:19 Oh 00:05:30 ```@`|ii!h 00:05:31 ! Result: v 00:05:33 ff 00:05:35 oerjan: test it for me :P 00:06:34 ``.o`.l`.l`.e`.Hi 00:06:34 Hello! Result: i 00:06:47 ok, output works 00:06:49 just not input? 00:07:01 ```@`|ii!H 00:07:02 ! Result: v 00:07:17 PRINTF DEBUG TIME 00:07:18 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:07:32 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:07:42 ```@`|ii!H 00:07:42 ! Result: v 00:07:49 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org PRIVMSG #esoteric :```@`|ii!H 00:07:49 "H" 00:07:51 that's a start 00:07:58 -!- Mony has quit ("night"). 00:08:59 oh 00:09:05 wat 00:09:20 oerjan: ? 00:09:26 ```@|i!H 00:09:27 H! Result: i 00:09:32 ahhh 00:09:33 yay 00:09:43 note: infinite loops will lock it up 00:09:48 so, don't do that 00:10:13 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 00:10:54 ````si`k``s.H``s.e``s.l``s.l``s.o``s. ``s.w``s.o``s.r``s.l``s.d``s.!``sri``si``si``si``si``si``si``si``si`ki 00:10:55 Hello world! 00:10:55 Hello world! 00:10:55 Hello world! 00:10:55 Hello world! 00:10:55 Hello world! 00:10:56 Hello world! 00:10:58 Hello world! 00:11:00 Hello world! 00:11:02 ! Result: i 00:11:07 oklopol: 00:11:21 ```d.v```s``si`kv``si`k`d`..`.c`.s`.``.``.s`.``.`v``s``sc.```s``sc.```s``sc.d``s``sc..``s``sc.v``s``sc.```s``sc.```s``sc.```s``sc.s``s``sc.```s``sc.```s``sc.s``s``sc.i``s``sc.```s``sc.k``s``sc.v``s``sc.```s``sc.```s``sc.s``s``sc.i``s``sc.```s``sc.k``s``sc.```s``sc.d``s``sc.```s``sc..``s``sc..``s``sc.```s``sc..``s``sc.c``s``sc.```s``sc..``s``sc.s``s``sc.```s``sc..``s``sc.```s``sc.```s``sc..``s``sc.```s``sc.```s``sc..``s``sc.s``s``sc.```s``sc..``s``sc.```s 00:11:21 "" (line 1, column 458): 00:11:21 unexpected end of input 00:11:21 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 00:11:24 ``sc.```s``sc..``s``sc.```s``sc.vv 00:11:24 "" (line 1, column 4): 00:11:24 unexpected "." 00:11:24 expecting "!" or end of input 00:11:26 agh. 00:11:28 f 00:11:47 i don't think it's "witty", i think your primary asset is you look at the big picture; of course that doesn't always apply, but from thinking up examples of the kind of behavior (which i'm not going to share), that one sounds the closest. 00:11:57 oklopol: wow, that's some delayed reply 00:12:01 *the kind of behavior i mean 00:12:15 sure. 00:12:24 my brain works slowly and concurrently. 00:12:41 ``r```si`k``s``s`kk`si``s``si`k``s`k`s`k``sk``sr`k.*ir``si``si``si``si``si``si``si``si``si`k`ki 00:12:41 * 00:12:41 ** 00:12:41 ** 00:12:41 *** 00:12:41 *** 00:12:42 *** 00:12:44 **** 00:12:46 **** 00:12:48 **** 00:12:50 **** 00:12:52 ***** 00:12:54 ***** 00:12:56 ***** 00:12:58 ***** 00:13:00 ***** 00:13:02 ****** 00:13:04 ****** 00:13:06 ****** 00:13:06 cool stuff 00:13:08 ****** 00:13:09 doesn't lambdabot have an unlambda plugin? 00:13:10 ****** 00:13:12 ****** 00:13:14 ******* 00:13:15 lament: dunno 00:13:16 ******* 00:13:17 * ehird removes printf debugging 00:13:18 ******* 00:13:18 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:13:32 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:13:39 `````````` 00:13:39 "" (line 1, column 10): 00:13:39 unexpected end of input 00:13:39 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 00:13:46 wow that's annoying. 00:13:53 lament: it didn't have an interpreter for that plugin to call last i checked 00:13:53 don't do that then 00:14:04 ``heh 00:14:04 "" (line 1, column 5): 00:14:04 unexpected end of input 00:14:04 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 00:14:12 lament: how often do you start a line with 00:14:12 ` 00:14:12 "" (line 1, column 1): 00:14:13 unexpected end of input 00:14:13 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 00:14:34 ```|`@ii 00:14:34 ! Result: v 00:14:37 ```|`@ii!a 00:14:37 a! Result: i 00:14:39 lament: all lambdabots esolang interps cause broken pipes ime. 00:14:41 `To be or not to be, that is the question' -- Shakespeare 00:14:41 "" (line 1, column 57): 00:14:42 unexpected end of input 00:14:42 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 00:14:52 lament: don't use ``faggot quotes'' :-P 00:15:36 ````@i`k|ei 00:15:36 "" (line 1, column 10): 00:15:36 unexpected "i" 00:15:36 expecting "!" or end of input 00:15:40 oops 00:15:46 ``ii 00:15:46 ```sii``sii 00:15:47 ! Result: i 00:15:47 "" (line 1, column 6): 00:15:47 unexpected "`" 00:15:47 expecting "!" or end of input 00:15:54 don't, lament. 00:16:13 QA is in my blood. 00:16:20 `````@i`k|ei 00:16:21 ! Result: v 00:16:23 `````@i`k|ei!a 00:16:23 ! Result: .a 00:16:30 oh dear. 00:16:40 ``````@i`k|eii!a 00:16:41 a! Result: i 00:16:58 ``ci`c`````@i`k|eii!abc 00:16:58 "" (line 1, column 4): 00:16:58 unexpected "`" 00:16:58 expecting "!" or end of input 00:16:58 `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii 00:16:59 "" (line 1, column 152): 00:16:59 unexpected end of input 00:16:59 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 00:17:06 ```ci`c`````@i`k|eii!abc 00:17:06 abc! Result: v 00:17:26 `vv 00:17:26 "" (line 1, column 2): 00:17:26 unexpected "v" 00:17:26 expecting "!" or end of input 00:17:28 ``ci`cX + e makes programming unlambda a sinch. 00:17:28 "" (line 1, column 4): 00:17:28 unexpected "`" 00:17:28 expecting "!" or end of input 00:17:33 lament: you have to put an extra ` in front. 00:17:35 ``vv 00:17:35 ! Result: v 00:17:40 oh 00:17:44 it's to confuse people 00:17:47 so the first ` is not part of the unlambda program? 00:17:49 i see 00:17:56 `v 00:17:56 ! Result: v 00:18:05 ````ci`c`@|i!hello 00:18:05 hello! Result: v 00:18:10 is v lazy? 00:18:13 lament: nope 00:18:15 nothing but d is lazy 00:18:18 mwahaha 00:18:19 ``d``sii 00:18:20 ! Result: `d``sii 00:18:38 i'm gonna add a time limmit 00:18:42 so you can do infinite shtuffs 00:18:44 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:20:25 here goes 00:20:33 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:20:35 ```sii 00:20:35 ! Result: ``sii 00:20:38 ... 00:20:40 lol vat 00:20:53 ``vv 00:20:53 ! Result: v 00:20:57 , ok, what 00:21:00 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:21:07 lol 00:21:10 ``sii terminates in my interp 00:21:11 wtf 00:21:13 oh wait 00:21:16 it's ```sii``sii 00:21:33 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:21:34 ````sii``sii 00:21:35 ! Result: 00:21:38 ````dies 00:21:39 ! Result: s 00:21:44 hmm 00:21:54 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:22:05 miscalculated the timeout 00:22:07 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:22:16 ````sii``sii 00:22:27 ! Result: 00:22:34 Et voila. 00:22:59 oerjan: link to your archive mirror? 00:23:36 oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/unlambda-mirror 00:25:04 ````sii``si``s`k`d`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n.Ui 00:25:20 Come to think of it, that'll generate enough output to excess flood in 10 seconds. 00:25:24 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:25:29 Stack space overflow: current size 8388608 bytes. 00:25:29 Use `+RTS -Ksize' to increase it. 00:25:31 wow. 00:25:43 So um hey guys :) :) :) 00:25:54 * ehird limits output to 2500 charz 00:27:17 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:27:18 ````sii``si``s`k`d`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n.Ui 00:27:19 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:29:28 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:29:29 ````sii``si``s`k`d`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n.Ui 00:29:29 -!- unlambda has quit (Excess Flood). 00:29:32 agh 00:30:19 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:30:20 ````sii``si``s`k`d`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n.Ui 00:30:20 nlambda, c'est trivial! 00:30:20 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:30:20 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:30:20 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:30:20 -!- unlambda has quit (Excess Flood). 00:30:43 o 00:30:57 tempora 00:32:03 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:32:04 ````sii``si``s`k`d`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n.Ui 00:32:04 nlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:05 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:05 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:06 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:06 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:08 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:10 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:12 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:14 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:16 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:18 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:20 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:22 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:23 ah. I see the problem. 00:32:24 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:26 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:28 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:29 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:32:54 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:32:56 ````sii``si``s`k`d`r`.!`.l`.a`.i`.v`.i`.r`.t`. `.t`.s`.e`.'`.c`. `.,`.a`.d`.b`.m`.a`.l`.n.Ui 00:32:57 nlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:57 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:58 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:58 Unlambda, c'est trivial! 00:32:59 U! Result: 00:33:03 Tada. 00:33:48 nlambda? 00:34:14 north love american man boy dog association? 00:34:14 lament: program's fault. 00:34:16 ````s``s``sii`ki`k.*``s``s`ks``s`k`s`ks``s``s`ks``s`k`s`kr``s`k`sikk`k``s`ksk 00:34:17 * 00:34:17 * 00:34:18 ** 00:34:18 *! Result: 00:34:33 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:34:41 let's try that again 00:35:02 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:35:03 ````s``s``sii`ki`k.*``s``s`ks``s`k`s`ks``s``s`ks``s`k`s`kr``s`k`sikk`k``s`ksk 00:35:03 * 00:35:04 * 00:35:04 ** 00:35:05 *** 00:35:05 ***** 00:35:07 * Result: 00:35:25 ```r`cd`.*`cd 00:35:26 * 00:35:26 ** 00:35:27 *** 00:35:27 **** 00:35:28 ***** 00:35:28 * Result: 00:35:35 ` 00:35:36 "" (line 1, column 1): 00:35:36 unexpected end of input 00:35:37 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 00:36:12 ```@i`ci 00:36:13 Result: v 00:36:15 ```@i`ci!a 00:36:15 Result: * 00:36:25 ````@i`cii 00:36:26 Result: v 00:36:27 ````@i`cii! 00:36:28 Result: v 00:36:29 ````@i`cii!a 00:36:29 Result: i 00:36:31 `.`i 00:36:31 ````@i`cii!ab 00:36:32 "" (line 1, column 3): 00:36:32 unexpected "i" 00:36:33 expecting "!" or end of input 00:36:33 Result: i 00:36:33 ```eek 00:36:34 Result: e 00:36:39 ``.`i 00:36:39 ` Result: i 00:36:41 ``ei 00:36:41 Result: i 00:36:48 ``k`ei 00:36:49 Result: i 00:36:54 ``c`ei 00:36:54 Result: i 00:36:57 ``ce 00:36:57 Result: * 00:37:04 * = continuation, ofc. 00:37:06 ``sk 00:37:06 Result: `sk 00:37:12 ``cs 00:37:12 Result: `s* 00:37:43 ``k`ci`ci 00:37:44 "" (line 1, column 6): 00:37:44 unexpected "`" 00:37:45 expecting "!" or end of input 00:37:50 ``k``ci`ci 00:38:00 ``.?i 00:38:01 Result: 00:38:02 ? Result: i 00:38:02 ```sick 00:38:03 "" (line 1, column 6): 00:38:03 unexpected "k" 00:38:04 expecting "!" or end of input 00:38:05 ``.a``ci`ci 00:38:08 ``.`i 00:38:09 ````sick 00:38:13 stop flooding it 00:38:16 Result: 00:38:16 ` Result: i 00:38:17 Result: `k`k* 00:38:18 it does one prog at a time 00:38:18 :P 00:38:37 ``.``.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.`.i 00:38:38 "" (line 1, column 9): 00:38:38 unexpected "." 00:38:39 expecting "!" or end of input 00:38:44 er duh 00:39:05 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:39:10 multithreaded now 00:39:18 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:39:20 ```.ai``ci`ci 00:39:30 a Result: 00:39:31 `````creed 00:39:31 * ehird thumbs twiddle 00:39:31 Result: e 00:39:39 ``cc 00:39:39 Result: * 00:39:41 ``ci 00:39:41 Result: * 00:39:47 ``cd 00:39:48 Result: `d* 00:39:54 is that correct? 00:39:55 I think so 00:40:02 ```cd 00:40:02 "" (line 1, column 5): 00:40:02 unexpected end of input 00:40:03 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 00:40:03 ```cdc 00:40:04 Result: * 00:40:08 ```cd`cd 00:40:18 Result: 00:40:37 ``ci`.ai 00:40:37 "" (line 1, column 4): 00:40:38 unexpected "`" 00:40:38 expecting "!" or end of input 00:40:40 ```ci`.ai 00:40:41 aa Result: i 00:40:47 ```ci`.ac 00:40:47 aa Result: * 00:40:49 ```ci`.a`ci 00:40:50 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:40:51 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:40:51 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:40:53 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:40:57 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:41:01 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:41:05 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:41:05 ... and the result? 00:41:08 Oh my. 00:41:09 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Result: 00:41:23 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:41:31 Tightening up output limits a bit. 00:41:36 -!- unlambda has joined. 00:41:37 ```ci`.a`ci 00:41:37 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:41:38 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:41:39 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:41:43 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:41:47 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:41:51 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Result: 00:42:18 ``.a``ci`ci 00:42:28 Result: 00:42:35 oh, duh 00:42:41 ```.a`ci`ci 00:42:42 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:42:42 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:42:43 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:42:45 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:42:49 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 00:42:53 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Result: 00:43:03 In this context, I think c is non-functional. You can put a continuation thingy in the middle of an expression, and it can "reach out" around it. 00:43:51 Do you guys want me to leave this up overnight? 00:43:52 well duh 00:44:07 oerjan: what was that a duh to 00:44:13 the first 00:44:18 Ah. 00:44:21 The latter? 00:44:35 not particularly 00:44:47 :< 00:44:50 Tough, you're getting it. 00:44:51 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 00:45:34 Fuck that, there's no cabal-install in ubuntu repos. 00:45:37 Yer not getting it. 00:45:46 byebye 00:49:11 gaaaay 01:20:20 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 01:37:44 -!- oklopol has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 02:26:53 -!- jix has quit ("..."). 03:06:12 (lament : you called ?) 05:26:55 -!- psygnisfive has joined. 06:09:22 YOU AINT MAH BITCH NIGGA GETCHYO OWN DAMN FRIES 06:47:20 -!- Sgeo has joined. 06:47:49 My dad's taking the computer away, so bye all 06:50:19 -!- Sgeo has quit (Client Quit). 06:50:45 -!- Sgeo has joined. 06:53:06 -!- Sgeo has quit (Client Quit). 07:06:28 -!- ab5tract has joined. 07:08:29 -!- icefox has joined. 07:10:09 Have any of you guys played with the BF Joust Hill? 07:11:04 Saw it on http://retrocode.blogspot.com/2009/02/bf-joust-hill.html and been messing around with it for a few hours and was looking for some more information 07:41:06 yes 07:52:07 -!- ab5tract has quit. 07:53:31 bsmntbombdood: has the code for any of the joust[0-9] been posted anywhere? 07:53:47 dunno 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:25:34 -!- ab5tract has joined. 08:29:48 -!- ab5tract has quit (Client Quit). 08:33:17 -!- ab5tract has joined. 09:22:20 I completely loose against joust6,joust12,woggle_050109_1,woggle_050109_2 and comex_241208_2... and completely win against everyone else... With completely, I mean 20-0 or 19-1. 09:22:26 comex_241208_2 because of time :P 09:32:59 -!- ab5tract has quit. 09:33:32 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 09:36:52 -!- Mony has joined. 09:39:38 -!- MigoMipo has quit ("QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server"). 09:53:04 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit ("Client Excited"). 11:11:20 -!- Mony has quit ("@plouche"). 11:50:00 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 11:52:07 -!- Hiato has joined. 11:57:29 i should send a SNUSP Hello World! program to http://www.roesler-ac.de/wolfram/hello.htm 11:57:44 i can't find any snusp hello world programs 12:01:40 -!- kwufo has joined. 12:03:06 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 12:04:54 -!- Hiato has quit ("Leaving."). 12:05:24 -!- Hiato has joined. 12:10:19 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 12:12:57 -!- Hiato has quit ("Leaving."). 12:13:31 -!- Hiato has joined. 12:14:35 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 12:15:11 -!- whoppix has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 12:15:38 -!- whoppix has joined. 12:23:09 MizardX: When I run my program against joust12 I get a -1. The only time I see -1 is when I write a program without matching brackets. Is there another case? 12:35:11 No idea 12:37:54 -!- oklopol has joined. 12:43:01 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote closed the connection). 12:44:12 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 12:49:50 -!- jix has joined. 12:53:08 -!- Slereah2 has joined. 13:03:21 -!- Hiato has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 13:05:16 -!- Slereah has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 13:09:20 -!- Hiato has joined. 13:22:07 -!- MigoMipo has quit ("QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server"). 13:47:11 o 14:15:45 -!- Mony has joined. 14:28:41 -!- alex89ru has joined. 14:28:42 hi 14:34:21 icefox: yes, the joust0-9 code has been posted 14:34:24 I'll dig it up in a bit 14:34:25 My dad's taking the computer away, so bye all 14:34:27 wait, forever? 14:34:29 bye sgeo.. 14:39:23 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 14:41:02 icefox: http://pastie.org/382513.txt?key=bwmridu9i0kak8xgu2gycg 14:41:03 joust0-9 14:48:13 -!- icefox has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 14:49:48 -!- icefox has joined. 15:20:18 -!- olsner has quit ("Leaving"). 15:21:41 MizardX: my new hg repo http://78.46.37.210:8080/ 15:22:04 hg repo for a small one-file interpreter? ah, the overengineering stage :-) 15:23:09 ... It occurs to me I'm sitting in #corewars and haven't ever played corewars. 15:23:58 ehird: i changed the file 135 times ! 15:24:10 KingOfKarlsruhe: major changes? if so, wow 15:26:37 wow that was one crazy bug, was using kate, had several files open, switched to another tab, used ctrl-f to find something, started typing, and the text ended up in the tab I was in before this one... 15:26:42 unable to reproduce.. 15:28:23 -!- ais523 has joined. 15:45:00 -!- Hiato has quit (Connection timed out). 15:47:19 Huh. 15:47:43 Google groups lets you subscribe to a usenet group via mail as daily digest & per-25 email digest, but not one-email-per-message. 15:47:59 That's kind of silly. I want to use usenet groups like mailing lists. 15:50:17 it used to have one-email-per-message, I think 15:50:27 Why did they stop? Server load? 15:50:37 could explain why emails via a.l.i seem to be delayed a day for me 15:50:40 and probably 15:50:59 I'm sure some usenet provider offers mailing lists for newsgroups, but probably for $$$. 15:51:05 (and they all suck compared to Google Groups...) 15:51:11 err, free ones 15:51:11 that is 15:51:15 paid ones are better than google groups 15:51:39 ais523: ... I just realised. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lang.intercal/topics 15:51:48 There were only like 20 posts in 2008! 15:51:57 it's a strange newsgroup 15:52:01 people hardly ever post 15:52:05 but it's known to have a lot of readers 15:52:10 ehird, just use your own usenet client :) 15:52:15 whenever people post "is this newsgroup dead" you get a lot of people saying no 15:52:29 ais523, also I get lot of spam on a.l.i on the server I read it on 15:52:30 it's effectively become the C-INTERCAL and CLC-INTERCAL new version announcement mailing list 15:52:30 AnMaster: I use gmail for all mail. Newsgroups are just mailing lists run by dinosaurs. 15:52:32 maybe google filter that 15:52:38 AnMaster: there's a lot of spam on a.l.i even on Google 15:52:42 mhm 15:52:45 although I think they filter out some of it 15:52:57 ehird: Usenet has the advantage of not being centralised 15:53:04 ais523: yes, I'm just being flippant 15:53:13 at least, I am if I remember what flippant means correctly. 15:53:26 no, apparently not 15:53:33 * ehird feels his memory slipping 15:54:07 but, yes, there's no reason to treat usenet differently from mailing lists bar binary groups 15:54:21 and using binary groups is fundamentally different anyway 16:02:39 hm 16:02:44 I wonder how to do this 16:02:48 it is like backwards grep 16:02:59 backwards grep? 16:03:19 I have a long list of items to find and a huge list of files to find it in. But I want to find all entries in the first list that are NOT in any of the files 16:03:40 I think grep has an option to do that 16:03:47 hm 16:04:01 actually, that's the reverse of what grep does 16:04:06 exactly 16:04:07 you can find files that don't contain an item 16:04:14 but not items that aren't contained in a file 16:04:20 although grep and for should do it between them 16:04:21 well it is the latter that I need 16:04:27 hm 16:05:11 ais523, would be painfully slow because the list of files is too much to fit into cache at once 16:05:30 as in about a GB of files 16:05:32 wow 16:05:32 AnMaster: grep -v 16:05:42 grep -v inverts the pattern 16:05:44 ehird, no... read what the question was 16:05:47 ehird: nope, that's not what AnMaster's asking for 16:05:50 what is it, then 16:05:57 he wants something like grep -q 16:06:03 but with multiple different things to search for 16:06:03 use grep -q? :P 16:06:05 ah. 16:06:13 AnMaster: use fgrep 16:06:15 so you could grep -q each of them individually, but that would be massively slow 16:06:17 unless you really need a regex 16:06:30 ehird, that doesn't give me a list of search terms not found in any of the files. 16:06:33 hmm... it's only a few lines in Perl 16:06:39 AnMaster: how many search terms are there? 16:06:48 AnMaster: nor does it supply you with a pony 16:06:48 ais523, around 10 000 16:06:53 um. 16:06:55 get a supercomputer. 16:07:10 unless you can wait like a week. 16:07:15 actually, 9862 16:07:21 supercomputer 16:07:27 ehird, non are regex 16:07:30 all are fixed strings 16:07:31 supercomputer 16:07:56 I'm bringing the unlambda bot back because I want to. 16:07:59 -!- unlambda has joined. 16:08:02 `i 16:08:02 Result: i 16:08:16 for x in searchtermlist; do grep -q $x filelist || echo $x; done 16:08:20 ````si`k``s.H``s.e``s.l``s.l``s.o``s. ``s.w``s.o``s.r``s.l``s.d``s.!``sri``si``si``si``si``si``si``si``si`ki 16:08:20 Hello world! 16:08:21 Hello world! 16:08:21 Hello world! 16:08:22 Hello world! 16:08:22 Hello world! 16:08:23 Hello world! 16:08:23 but that's likely to be too slow 16:08:23 H Result: 16:08:37 maybe tokenising the data I want to grep and importing it into a sql database (I know all strings I want to search for a whole words) and then using some sort of sql search would be faster 16:08:43 because it reads each file once for each search term 16:09:09 AnMaster: if you're going that crazy, why not cat together all the files first, then just search in the resulting massive file? 16:09:21 hm, maybe 16:09:21 or use a hash 16:09:23 ```ci`c`r`.!`.d`.l`.r`.o`.w`. `.,`.o`.l`.l`.e`.Hi 16:09:24 Hello, world! 16:09:24 Hello, world! 16:09:24 Hello, world! 16:09:25 table 16:09:25 Hello, world! 16:09:25 Hello, world! 16:09:26 Hello, world! 16:09:27 H Result: 16:09:50 ais523, well maybe, though the sql one was (half) a joke... 16:09:50 AnMaster: what do you mean by "whole word" 16:09:54 space-delimited? 16:09:56 ```ci`c.* 16:09:56 ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** 16:09:57 ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** 16:09:58 ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** 16:09:59 ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** 16:10:01 Er. 16:10:03 ******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** 16:10:04 ais523, space, or other non-alphanumeric 16:10:04 Sorry. 16:10:06 I think I might know how to do this in Perl, which is designed for that sort of thing 16:10:07 ****************************************************************************************** Result: 16:10:17 AnMaster: hmm... that'll be slower as you'd need to regex match to find word boundaries 16:10:21 ais523, such as a ( after the word counts as delimiter. 16:10:24 or do some other complicated thing 16:10:25 while a _ doesn't 16:11:01 ais523, in fact anything that can be a valid C delimiter around a C symbol 16:11:07 how important are the delimiting semantics to you? would you be willing to compromise slightly to search faster? 16:11:10 (such as a variable, function, macro name or so) 16:11:24 yes I'm searching 1 GB of C source. Correct. 16:11:39 just out of interest, what exactly are you trying to do? 16:11:45 actually du -bsh says 993 MB 16:12:04 what ais523 said 16:12:09 you probably don't need to do this 16:12:11 ais523, find a list of symbols not used in a certain huge C source set 16:12:12 in fact, almost certainly. 16:12:16 AnMaster: why? 16:12:19 AnMaster: what are you trying to achive 16:12:36 hmm... maybe he wants to see which parts of a library he can remove, on the basis that nobody at all is using them 16:12:43 and has copies of all the source anywhere that uses the library 16:12:47 ais523, 1) library exporting lots of functions 2) application using it 3) some could go static, figure out which ones. 16:12:57 talk about overengineering 16:13:02 do you really need to do this? 16:13:08 AnMaster: mightn't compiling it and using nm work? 16:13:18 ais523, hm maybe... interesting idea 16:13:21 ... 16:13:25 you mean REALLY OBVIOUS idea? 16:13:28 You didn't try that? Sheesh. 16:13:38 then I could nm the application and diff the lists 16:13:39 :) 16:13:45 WOW REALLY? 16:13:48 How did you think of that. 16:13:56 ehird, no need to go ironic. 16:14:08 That was sarcasm, Alanis 16:14:33 "Alanis"? 16:14:40 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 16:14:43 Interwebs meme. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironic_(song) 16:14:48 (It's ironic because it's not ironic.) 16:15:56 actually comm, not diff 16:16:29 -!- ab5tract has joined. 16:20:17 now it would be nice to see which of those symbols are used in more than one file in the library, which is smaller (and the list is also smaller, just around 700 entries, on around 80 MB source code) so *tries to work out how to find out that* 16:20:27 ````ssss 16:20:28 Result: ``ss`ss 16:20:33 ````ssks 16:20:33 Result: ``ss`ks 16:20:39 `````ssksi 16:20:40 Result: ``sis 16:20:50 `ss 16:20:50 "" (line 1, column 2): 16:20:51 unexpected "s" 16:20:52 expecting "!" or end of input 16:20:54 ``````ssss.a.b 16:20:54 aab Result: ``s.b.b 16:20:55 oh, duh 16:20:56 ``ss 16:20:56 Result: `ss 16:21:11 ``ci`cv 16:21:11 "" (line 1, column 4): 16:21:12 unexpected "`" 16:21:13 expecting "!" or end of input 16:21:14 ```ci`cv 16:21:14 Result: v 16:21:23 err, duh, that's ``civ 16:21:43 the ``ci`c(EXPR) trick is really useful, though 16:22:01 ````ci`c`@|i!hello 16:22:02 hello Result: v 16:22:06 fun GNU grep has an option "--mmap" 16:22:11 ````ci`c`@|i 16:22:11 Result: v 16:22:23 is ```ci`c`@|i a well-known unlambda cat? 16:22:24 I haven't seen it before 16:22:29 I think all the others are much longer 16:22:37 BTW, this is the haskell unlambda interp I wrote yesterday 16:22:46 code was clean until I hooked it up to IRC (custom stdin/stdout...) 16:22:49 now it's ugly, but meh. 16:22:50 It's fat. 16:22:51 *fast 16:22:51 that's a pretty clever cat 16:22:55 yes 16:23:01 what's the shortest sii-based one? 16:23:07 dunno, long 16:23:14 it's hard to loop in unlambda without c 16:23:17 with c, it's trivial 16:23:21 -!- ab5tract has quit. 16:23:30 hmm... what do @ and | do again? 16:23:40 `@X reads a char, if at EOF, does `Xv 16:23:40 "" (line 1, column 2): 16:23:41 unexpected "X" 16:23:41 expecting "!" or end of input 16:23:43 otherwise, does `Xi 16:23:58 `|X does `X.Y 16:23:58 "" (line 1, column 2): 16:23:59 unexpected "X" 16:23:59 expecting "!" or end of input 16:24:01 where Y = the current character 16:24:22 but yeah, for looping just do (``ci`cX), where X is v whenever you want to stop, and the function you want when you want to continue 16:24:26 then you can just apply that as you want 16:24:32 kind of cheating, but useful 16:24:49 that's not cheating, except that it doesn't let you pass information out 16:24:55 without messing with a third continuation 16:25:12 ``@|i!foo 16:25:13 "" (line 1, column 4): 16:25:14 unexpected "i" 16:25:14 expecting "!" or end of input 16:25:17 you need an extra ` 16:25:18 ```@|i!foo 16:25:18 f Result: i 16:25:22 ` is just the prefix, to confuse people 16:25:22 "" (line 1, column 3): 16:25:23 unexpected "s" 16:25:23 expecting "!" or end of input 16:25:27 ehird: yes, figured 16:25:33 ais523: what i mean is, continuations for control flow feels like cheatin 16:25:33 g 16:25:34 and it makes discussing unlambda pretty tricky 16:25:37 in unlambda 16:25:45 since it's not as "pure" and hard as ski 16:25:54 ehird: Unlambda never was pure 16:25:58 well, yes 16:26:03 still doesn't mean you shouldn't aim for purity 16:26:12 ```r`cd`.*`cd 16:26:12 * 16:26:13 ** 16:26:13 *** 16:26:14 **** 16:26:15 ***** 16:26:15 * Result: 16:26:18 i love that program 16:26:23 ```sii`@|!hello 16:26:23 "" (line 1, column 6): 16:26:24 unexpected "`" 16:26:24 expecting "!" or end of input 16:26:28 it can be shortened though 16:26:29 wow, find lib -name '*.c' -exec grep -Fof non-shared_common.txt {} + | awk -F: '{print $2" "$1}' | sort -n | uniq | cut -d' ' -f1 | uniq -d 16:26:29 ``sii`@|!hello 16:26:30 I beleive. 16:26:30 "" (line 1, column 4): 16:26:30 :D 16:26:30 unexpected "i" 16:26:31 expecting "!" or end of input 16:26:31 *believe 16:26:33 ````sii`@|!hello 16:26:34 h Result: .h 16:26:42 -!- whoppix has quit ("Verlassend"). 16:26:42 for one, it doesn't actually use any properties of d 16:26:48 ais523, like that line ^ 16:26:50 ```r`ci`.*`i 16:26:51 "" (line 1, column 12): 16:26:51 unexpected end of input 16:26:52 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 16:26:53 also works 16:26:54 er 16:27:01 o_O 16:27:03 ```r`ci`.*`i 16:27:03 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH 16:27:04 "" (line 1, column 12): 16:27:04 unexpected end of input 16:27:05 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 16:27:08 Unlambda D: 16:27:08 then I use comm to find what entries it didn't find 16:27:12 ```r`cd`.*`cd 16:27:12 * 16:27:13 ** 16:27:13 *** 16:27:14 **** 16:27:14 ***** 16:27:15 * Result: 16:27:16 Slereah2: why do you dislike it so much? 16:27:16 oh right 16:27:19 ```r`ci`.*`ci 16:27:20 * 16:27:20 ** 16:27:21 *** 16:27:21 **** 16:27:23 ***** 16:27:25 * Result: 16:27:33 ```r`ci`.*i 16:27:33 ais523 : Eagerness. 16:27:33 * 16:27:34 * Result: i 16:27:41 ais523, ? 16:27:49 AnMaster: ? 16:27:57 ```ci`c`r`.*i 16:27:57 * 16:27:58 * 16:27:58 * 16:27:59 * 16:27:59 * 16:28:00 * 16:28:00 ais523, see above 16:28:01 * Result: 16:28:02 oops. 16:28:06 Slereah2: being eager lets you mess about with continuations, though 16:28:11 er 16:28:13 ehird, can you make it not output as many lines? 16:28:15 you can have continuations in a lazy language, ais523 16:28:17 AnMaster: no. 16:28:21 ehird, why not? 16:28:25 ais523 : I still don't know what continuation is, though 16:28:25 ehird: I know, but you can't mess about with them as easily 16:28:27 AnMaster: because it's useful to see more output on most programs 16:28:31 (Don't try to explain, no matter) 16:28:35 Slereah2: learn now 16:28:45 if you've never come across continuations, your programming experience is incomplete 16:28:46 ais523, well? 16:28:55 AnMaster: I don't see what I'm meant to say in reply 16:28:58 ais523 : I'm a scientist damn it! 16:29:01 it looks like a typical UNIX piped command 16:29:05 All we do is crunch numbers :o 16:29:07 ais523, I just thought that line was rather cleaver 16:29:41 it wasn't cleaver, it wasn't clever either 16:29:43 what was clever about it 16:29:45 ````sii```sii`@|!hello 16:29:45 hh Result: .h 16:29:47 it was a typical boring unix pipeline 16:30:09 this reminds me of a time when I had to do something at University 16:30:16 ehird, no it was using a rather interesting way of using uniq 16:30:18 the lecturer had given us a C program to do some text processing task 16:30:22 AnMaster: maybe if you've never used uniq. 16:30:25 and it wasn't a very interesting or efficient one 16:30:39 so I set it running, and wrote a UNIX pipeline that did the same thing while it was running 16:30:39 ehird, I have used it, but yeah I know you hate me, just say that instead. 16:30:42 and the pipeline finished first 16:31:04 ais523, did you tell the teacher about that? 16:31:11 yes, but I don't think he was listening 16:31:14 WOW I DON'T THINK YOUR PIPELINE IS CLEVER I MUST HATE YOU ;________; 16:31:31 ehird, no, I know you hate me from before :P 16:31:51 ``cd 16:31:52 Result: `d* 16:32:02 I still think that should be `d(interpreter source code to produce continuation) 16:33:05 * ehird considers adding "load program from URL" 16:33:11 since UL programs tend to be so big 16:33:29 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 16:33:34 * ehird does so 16:35:27 meh. 16:35:35 -!- unlambda has joined. 16:40:18 ehird, gave up on it? 16:40:34 yep. 16:40:45 anyway the custom unclean IO wouldn't be an issue really? Couldn't you keep it in a separate file? 16:40:57 That's not what I meant. 16:41:04 I meant that it was hardcoded to use stdin/stdout. 16:41:13 So I had to make that customizable, and the code got ugly because I just hacked it in. 16:42:02 mhm 16:42:24 wouldn't it just require replacing the IO monad with some other custom monad? 16:42:41 I mean in the main interpreter 16:42:46 It'd really be nice if you didn't pretend to know Haskell. 16:42:51 ehird, I don't 16:42:54 and I didn't claim it 16:43:17 I just notices how easy this would be in an OO language 16:43:18 :) 16:43:31 notice* 16:43:42 It'd be easy in Haskell except I did it in 3 seconds because I was lazy, and OOP is braindead. 16:43:50 But do feel free to keep trolling... 16:44:15 ehird, well when lament did it you didn't act that way 16:44:16 :P 16:44:25 No, I did, I said he was a troll. 16:44:33 But his trolling is funnier/less annoying. 16:48:29 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 16:51:12 -!- icefox has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 16:51:55 -!- icefox has joined. 17:11:53 * ehird resumes copyright infringement process. 17:12:02 yes 17:12:11 well enough irc for today. 17:12:12 some people would call it 17:12:12 -> 17:12:15 unpausing a torrent 17:12:18 ehird: if you're going to infringe copyright, don't tell me 17:12:27 because I'd have to try to stop you somehow, and I have no idea how 17:12:28 does it hurt your ears or something 17:12:35 try hacking into my router 17:12:39 the admin password is on default 17:12:48 you could crack the wep key easily 17:13:06 ehird: that would require being in range of your router 17:13:16 which would imply deducing where you live 17:13:21 welp, good citizens must make sacrifices. 17:13:21 and that would be really creepy 17:13:24 ais523: hexham 17:14:53 I think google knows my address to some degree of accuracy 17:14:54 not sure 17:14:57 wait 17:14:58 ais523: whoi 17:14:59 s 17:15:06 whois contains my full address, obviously 17:15:16 * ehird checks ye 17:15:17 yep 17:15:21 generally speaking it just tells you the ISPs address, doesn't it? 17:15:24 nope 17:15:35 additionally, has the landline phone number 17:15:42 there you go, now you can stop me 17:16:28 oh, I have to whois eso-std.org, rather than your real IP 17:16:42 duh :-P 17:17:19 105 days remaining 17:17:30 that's a ridiculously big torrent 17:17:33 or a rather slow connection 17:17:45 ais523: no, just a ridiculously unpeered one. on the bright side, you have a lot of time to stop me 17:18:05 grr, uploading at 250KB/second and downloading at 10... 17:18:07 damn my ISP 17:18:09 damn them 17:18:21 i'm pretty sure they shape traffic 17:18:24 ehird: the problem may not be unpeering, but the levels at which peering's happening 17:18:35 well, yes, it's improved now 17:18:39 now it'll only take 2 days ... 17:19:10 did you know that finding dual layer dvd-rs is really hard? 17:19:11 'tis 17:19:18 well. in a small town. 17:22:35 it's big enough for me to have heard of it 17:22:39 although not to remember much about it 17:22:42 Odd. 17:23:07 "Hexham is the administrative centre for the Tynedale district" 17:23:09 Didn't know that 17:23:44 IIRC it was quite important historically 17:24:09 It's rather boring nowadays. 17:24:45 hexhamshire used to be a county 17:24:56 That's one silly name. 17:25:02 although it was downgraded in 1572 17:25:20 apparently Henry I created it to annoy the Bishop of Durham 17:25:24 haha 17:25:26 England is weird 17:28:27 hmm... seems Microsoft are re-changing UAC to need a UAC prompt to change the UAC settings 17:28:37 that can only be a good thing, the previous version was like having a world-writable /etc/sudoers 17:30:54 ais523: I think the idea was to protect users from themselves. 17:31:15 the problem was that malware could just get root by turning off the setting that said it couldn't 17:31:30 ah 17:31:43 which should have been pretty obviou 17:31:46 *obvious 17:33:33 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:34:42 as opposed to the world government 17:35:03 hi oerjan 17:35:29 hello 17:37:00 -!- oerjan has quit (Client Quit). 17:37:13 they come and they go 17:37:15 hmm... is there a standard GNU/BSD shell command for doing date math? 17:37:32 not that i know 17:37:33 of 17:39:33 -!- oerjan has joined. 17:55:51 Gmail should offer their search as an api 17:55:57 that'd be fun for doing statistics 18:01:31 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 18:11:05 bleh, wikidot.com not only needs JS to register a user, it doesn't accept nested comments in emails 18:11:25 ehird, didn't they use to do that? 18:11:34 I said gmail, not google 18:11:36 I still have a google api key around from then 18:11:38 oh right 18:11:50 ais523: former sucks, latter is... understandable :P 18:12:06 ais523, file a bug 18:12:22 i wouldn't call it a bug. 18:12:31 I would. 18:12:54 i bet the same rfc also says something like all applications must display a pony on startup. 18:13:09 [citation needed] 18:13:29 one day you'll get a sense of humour 18:13:39 I still think that should be `d(interpreter source code to produce continuation) 18:13:42 ehird, well your joke simply wasn't fun 18:13:51 AnMaster: so ignore it 18:14:01 your interpreter doesn't reify continuations, alas 18:14:03 ehird, that is what I did 18:14:09 oerjan: vwut? 18:14:12 I ignored the joke part 18:14:48 ehird: it would be fairly easy if you made continuations a datatype similar to UL, but then they wouldn't be functions 18:14:57 ah. 18:15:02 oerjan: I meant 18:15:07 `d\s' v -> ... 18:15:08 "" (line 1, column 2): 18:15:09 unexpected "\\" 18:15:10 expecting "!" or end of input 18:15:12 except in underload 18:15:16 obligate interps to be written in unl 18:15:17 err 18:15:19 unlambda 18:16:11 hm maybe you could pass continuations as a tuple of a function and a source string 18:16:39 why not make continuations into actual code? 18:16:47 ais523: he does 18:16:47 a continuation is just a lambda which quits the program once it finishes running 18:16:49 * AnMaster should make a language that can be used on irc except there is no way to find out where input is supposed to begin, since it would use every symbol. Wait.... That would be unefunge + finding a new use for the 2D or higher instructions 18:16:54 and that's expressible in unlambda 18:16:58 ais523: his problem is how to print them 18:17:02 no 18:17:04 i'm joking 18:17:06 it was a joke about d 18:17:07 sheesh 18:17:11 oh 18:18:03 sorry, since i made that unlambda continuation notation i've been thinking someone should make an interpreter actually using it... 18:18:20 oerjan, Today I refrain from making any comments about whatever it is IWC is about today. 18:18:44 Fail 18:18:52 ehird, no. 18:18:59 you just did 18:19:14 ehird, no, read the line again. 18:19:19 I did 18:19:26 you mentioned what it was about, thus mentioning whati t was about 18:19:35 ehird: no, that's a metacomment 18:19:43 read it carefully 18:19:50 yes I did before sending the line 18:20:02 also, I've thought of a way to compile unlambda fast. 18:20:20 he mentioned mentioning, but he didn't mention :D 18:20:23 if I had said "Today I refrain from making any comment about IWC" it would have been what you said 18:20:28 exactly 18:20:51 "Today I refrain from making any comments about whatever it is IWC is about today." "whatever it is IWC is about today." 18:20:59 yes exactly 18:21:02 You referenced it, which counted as a comment about it, in the wider scope. 18:21:11 You're wrong, this is tedious, conversation over. 18:21:12 that means what the comic strip contains 18:21:13 ehird: the fastest way to compile Unlambda is to bundle it with an interpreter 18:21:20 presumably, you mean make the resulting program fast? 18:21:32 ais523: Yes. :P 18:21:35 ehird, you are wrong, sorry 18:22:03 AnMaster: Step 1. Learn English Step 2. Understand what your sentence actually says Step 3. Realise you're wrong Step 4. Don't mention it because this s boring 18:22:13 ehird, well what does ais523 and oerjan think? 18:22:18 hm it may be ambiguous 18:22:20 You forgot step 4. 18:22:26 AnMaster: I haven't been paying any thought to it 18:22:29 and probably won't start 18:22:31 depends on how you parse it 18:22:36 oerjan, maybe. but you could interpret it the way I did 18:22:46 ``cs 18:22:47 Result: `s* 18:22:56 ```ccs 18:22:57 Result: `ss 18:23:00 ````cccs 18:23:01 Result: `ss 18:23:08 ``cs`cs 18:23:10 "" (line 1, column 4): 18:23:11 unexpected "`" 18:23:11 expecting "!" or end of input 18:23:13 oops 18:23:14 ```cs`cs 18:23:15 Result: ``s*`s* 18:23:22 oerjan, so if ehird just for once could admit that... 18:23:23 ```cs``cs`cs 18:23:24 Result: ``s*``s*`s* 18:23:29 `````````ccccccccc 18:23:30 Result: * 18:23:36 AnMaster: you say admit like it's impossible you're wrong 18:23:50 funny, I recall you say that about me all the time 18:24:01 ehird, in this case I'm quite sure that I'm right or the parsing is ambiguous. 18:24:10 this is after analysing the line carefully. 18:24:20 * oerjan admits this is boring 18:24:32 oerjan: gee, I only said that minutes ago when I told him not to mention it. 18:24:38 oerjan, well I agree with that 18:24:47 he's very attentive. 18:25:57 I just realised there is no way to get past your stubbornness, that is all :) 18:26:00 afk 18:26:21 how hypocritical. 18:26:44 ehird: it is not hypocritical just because he is stubborn too 18:26:52 you _can_ both be 18:27:26 in fact you have to to be bickering as you do 18:27:30 sure it is, the previous sentence constituted "you're so stubborn", except with the Intellectual Booster(TM) In The Right SarcastiSmiley addons. 18:27:59 NO IT ISN'T 18:28:32 I wonder if he'll go away if I annoy him enough. 18:28:44 back 18:28:46 no I won't 18:29:24 also at least I don't go into a part/join cycle like you do whenever ais523 agree with whoever disagrees with you. 18:29:28 I think you underestimate how much I can annoy people. 18:29:31 with join, comment, part 18:29:48 seen that immature behaviour a few times from you. 18:29:57 * ais523 agrees with AnMaster to see what happens 18:30:12 ais523, probably won't work now, just to prove I'm wrong 18:30:23 i love how you think I care <3 18:30:28 ais523, and it usually takes at least a few screens of arguing before he does it. 18:30:30 :) 18:31:19 it must suck not to know how stupid you are. 18:31:51 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 18:31:53 Well, I'm afraid I really can't understand how that feels for you ehird. 18:32:04 since I never been in that situation. 18:32:23 eek 18:32:27 are you sitting there in your chair, giving yourself a high-five for your razor sharp wit 18:32:36 i agree, that wit is pretty sharp. shame it's not funny 18:32:41 my virus scanner found something other than a cookie :( 18:32:43 ehird, in fact, no. I was reading some scheme source code. 18:33:20 oerjan: what was it/ 18:33:20 AnMaster: come now, you should read something more to your ability, say a book of nursery rhymes. I can do this all day, btw. 18:33:32 -!- Mony has quit ("reboot"). 18:33:52 also, my virus scanner's never found anything, I only installed it because the University rules said I had to have one 18:34:06 "Trojan horse Generic12.BJXH" it says 18:34:11 ehird, well so can I, alas we are in different timezones, so that means I have to give up an hour before you. + it is already dark outside since a few hours. 18:34:19 in chatham's puzzle connection? 18:34:26 *collection 18:34:42 oerjan, did you download it? 18:34:44 ok it's not a game i've run recently 18:34:55 probably a trojan if so 18:34:59 Generic12 is a pretty weird name for a trojan... 18:35:20 downloaded it a long time ago, but the scanner hasn't found anything before. might be a false positive. 18:35:38 otherwise, the file must have been changed by something else 18:36:26 the virus scanner is still running, we'll see if it finds it anywhere else 18:36:35 -!- Mony has joined. 18:36:41 oerjan, or it wasn't detected until recently 18:39:10 well, duh 18:39:46 however i've definitely played that puzzle before 18:40:03 so if there were a trojan why hasn't it spread 18:41:04 er 18:41:11 `i 18:41:12 Result: i 18:41:14 -!- olsner_ has joined. 18:41:26 ```dcd 18:41:27 Result: `d* 18:42:02 *tatham 18:45:57 oerjan: there would be no point for it to spread to other programs on your computer 18:46:00 as you're already infected 18:46:05 besides, trojans don't spread, by definition 18:46:19 ic 18:46:54 not sure what it's doing there, if anything 18:47:36 i guess i'll download the collection again, there are some new puzzles 18:47:38 Google's never heard of it, which is strange 18:47:54 ```. `cd`.*`cd 18:47:55 * ** *** **** ***** ****** ******* ******** ********* ********** *********** ************ ************* ************** *************** **************** ***************** ****************** ******************* ******************** ********************* ********************** *********************** 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******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** 18:49:04 ****************************************************************************************** Result: 18:51:57 i'm trying to get 18:52:04 ... oh! 18:52:25 ```.*`cd`. `cd 18:52:26 looks like \** not \.\.\ oh! 18:52:26 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 18:52:27 * * * * * * * * * * 18:52:28 * * * * * * * * * 18:52:29 * * * * * * * 18:52:33 * * * * * * 18:52:37 * Result: 18:52:45 OH GOD I CAN SEE FOREVER 18:52:48 ehird: I suggest you reduce the maximum amount of output somewhat 18:52:52 ehird, nice constellation! 18:52:59 looks a bit like Orion? 18:53:05 ais523: nah, a lot of programs only start giving interesting output after a bit 18:53:06 Does it represent something? 18:53:09 plus, it's flushed out quickly 18:53:15 Slereah2: it's just * * * * 18:53:16 etc 18:53:19 the number of spaces increase 18:53:24 "only start giving interesting output after a bit"? 18:53:30 ais523: sure 18:53:33 like the counting programs 18:53:35 only the first line of that's interesting, probably only the first half of the first line 18:53:38 ais523, "outputs garbage at the start" 18:53:39 * oerjan swats ehird -----### 18:53:44 as for counting programs, just use / rather than newline 18:53:44 ais523: er, no 18:53:51 it looked nice in the irc display 18:53:56 plus, you have /ignore, use it 18:54:08 I may do, although not yet 18:54:08 ehird, not really, was quite weird, and not at all well formatted 18:54:13 my ignore tolerance is pretty high 18:54:20 AnMaster: looked nice to me. 18:54:25 each fills around 3 wrapped lines 18:54:26 plus the code is nice 18:55:01 ```.*`cd``@|`cd!hello world I am testing 18:55:02 *h*eh*leh*lleh*olleh* olleh*w olleh*ow olleh*row olleh*lrow olleh*dlrow olleh* dlrow olleh*I dlrow olleh* I dlrow olleh*a I dlrow olleh*ma I dlrow olleh* ma I dlrow olleh*t ma I dlrow olleh*et ma I dlrow olleh*set ma I dlrow olleh*tset ma I dlrow olleh*itset ma I dlrow olleh*nitset ma I dlrow olleh*gnitset ma I dlrow olleh*gnitset 18:55:03 ma I dlrow olleh* Result: v 18:55:14 Cute and incomprehensible. 18:55:18 ehird, there is this thing calling "running a program locally", should that not work there is also "joining another channel", to do that you do /join #esoteric-spam or whatever channel you want 18:55:24 toler ignorance 18:55:35 oerjan, hah 18:55:41 AnMaster: complain about fungot too, if you're so upset by it ignore it 18:55:42 ehird: uninterned symbols, pairs, procedures, and so am i to know if it's his older thing or something? random numbers, perhaps. 18:55:48 * oerjan rolls his eyes 18:55:50 ehird, it outputs much less 18:55:54 that is the main difference 18:55:56 that's nice 18:56:13 ^bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++[.] 18:56:13 222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222222 ... 18:56:15 see? 18:56:19 not as spammy 18:56:29 yes, most unlambda programs output a lot more than one line 18:56:33 and thus one line isn't useful 18:56:40 did someone take away your /ignore? 18:56:54 ^bf ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++...>++++++++++.<... 18:56:54 222.222 18:57:13 seems it uses . for \n unless I miscounted 18:57:22 ```.*`cd``@|`cd!* * * * * * * * * * * 18:57:23 *** *** ** * ** * *** * ** * * ** * * ** * * *** * * ** * * * ** * * * ** * * * ** * * * *** * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * ** * * * * *** * * * * ** * * * * * ** * * * * * ** * * * * * ** * 18:57:23 * * * * ** * * * * * ** * * * * * *** * * * * * ** * * * * * * ** * * * * * * ** * * * * * * ** * * * * * * 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Result: v 18:57:40 ````ci`c`@|i!^ul ((````ci`c`@|i!^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ ...bad insn! 18:57:41 ^ul ((````ci`c`@|i!^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ ...bad insn! Result: v 18:57:42 ````ci`c`@|i!^ul ((````ci`c`@|i!^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ ...bad insn! 18:57:43 ^ul ((````ci`c`@|i!^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ ...bad insn! Result: v 18:57:43 ````ci`c`@|i!^ul ((````ci`c`@|i!^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ ...bad insn! 18:57:45 ^ul ((````ci`c`@|i!^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ ...bad insn! Result: v 18:57:45 ````ci`c`@|i!^ul ((````ci`c`@|i!^ul )SaS(:^)S):^ ...bad insn! 18:57:46 -!- unlambda has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)). 18:57:48 :D 18:57:52 ais523 :D 18:58:00 what? 18:58:03 -!- unlambda has joined. 18:58:08 AnMaster: that's funny, kind of like how you whined at me when I set up a botloop of fungots 18:58:08 ehird: no idea what it is, and at the moment 18:58:11 oh wait, not at all like that. 18:58:17 ehird, only because it quit 18:58:23 ehird: you know I can't resist botlooping any new bot which joins 18:58:23 I guess it failed 18:58:28 AnMaster: no, I quit it. 18:58:32 before people started complaining. 18:58:35 you know, like fizzie does. 18:58:39 ehird, not :D then, rather: you are a hypocrite 18:58:40 /did 18:58:51 since you got irritated when fizzie quit your loop 18:58:56 umm I believe I was just calling you out for hypocritical actions there 18:58:59 I like botloops 18:59:04 I agree that ehird should have quitted the loop when e did 18:59:07 ehird, yes, but you always do that 18:59:18 now, to get fungot's output to be legal Underload 18:59:18 ais523, yes I agree too 18:59:19 ais523: fnord fnord already runs with fnord classpath so it would be 18:59:26 *unlambda's output 18:59:32 I sure would like a conversation with a sentient being once in a while. Any in here? 18:59:46 ehird: well, there is evidence for that 18:59:55 Yes, for all users but one. 19:00:01 I think the name starts with an A. 19:00:21 ehird, I understand you wouldn't see one when you met one. I mean due to not being sentient yourself. 19:00:35 Wow, didn't you use that retort a few minutes ago? 19:00:45 I guess your brain operates in batch mode, on the occasion that it does. 19:01:17 ehird, actually, I have to change option then, you are sentient, or you wouldn't pattern match that well. 19:01:44 Huh. The bot recognizes sentience. Interesting. 19:01:56 which bot? fungot or unlambda? 19:01:57 AnMaster: what if it's not beautiful, it's probably a useful idea to send parsed requests from the same language on another layer? nice additions to the base level, have fun with. 19:02:12 ^style 19:02:13 Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* lovecraft pa speeches ss wp 19:02:15 mhm 19:02:40 AnMaster. 19:02:46 yes? 19:02:51 -!- FireFly has joined. 19:03:20 the bot AnMaster. 19:03:34 what bot ehird? 19:03:44 the bot named "AnMaster". 19:03:44 * oerjan swats FireFly -----### 19:03:50 oerjan: why? 19:03:53 :< 19:03:55 indeed why 19:03:58 irresistible nick 19:04:05 ehird, mistaken identity. 19:04:05 :) 19:04:15 No, I'm fairly sure. 19:04:30 personally, I think it's just ehird being contrary for no good reason 19:05:01 yes, because I'm the only one who does that. certainly AnMaster never does. 19:05:41 * oerjan swats ehird -----### 19:06:34 ais523, I believe it is related to his age. Aren't they supposed to be that when they are in their lower teens (is that a Swedishism or an Englishism?) 19:06:57 why don't we all discuss esolangs for once? 19:07:02 ais523, good idea. 19:07:23 ais523, just seems ehird prefers to attack me instead. Sigh. 19:07:46 I'm going to assume that AnMaster knows he's being hypocritical to the max degree. 19:07:50 -!- Slereah2 has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)). 19:08:04 Also, that referencing my age to win an argument probably won't work on anyone with sentience. 19:08:27 wtf, i think this unlambda program is Life 19:08:35 or ... some automaton 19:09:02 ehird, don't worry, it is just a natural part of life. You will get past it in a few years. :) 19:09:33 I wonder if I should do like AnMaster does and ignore AnMaster and then paste the successful ignore message as flamebait. 19:09:44 Oh wait, I have a brain. drop that idea. 19:09:49 -!- Slereah2 has joined. 19:10:02 also it wouldn't work on me. It only works on you. 19:10:39 afk 19:10:55 Hm. lament: Is deliberately trolling to elicit a flamewar bannable yet? 19:11:05 I direct you to "It only works on you.". 19:12:30 ehird, Probably not: after all, you are still here. Now I really need to programming. Have a nice evening. 19:12:46 You accidentally programming with your brain. 19:12:59 But thanks for leaving just to make me happier. I really appreciate the thought. 19:15:53 i for one can see no difference between AnMaster and ehird as far as bannability is concerned. 19:16:20 banning us both would work, I'd come back with a proxy under a different name and he likely wouldn't. 19:21:48 ehird: we could still tell it was you just from the style 19:22:03 Don't be so sure. 19:22:18 well, if it was sufficiently different, you wouldn't argue with AnMaster-like opinions, so everyone would be happy 19:23:00 Yes, agreeing with idiots tends to make everyone into idiots and idiots among idiots generally are happy. 19:23:20 AnMaster is not an idiot 19:23:24 regardless of what you think 19:23:38 Dayum, what's this new subjectivity I hear about? I don't believe in it. 19:23:39 oerjan: sorry, since i made that unlambda continuation notation i've been thinking someone should make an interpreter actually using it... <<< my subtle cough interp used an equivalent one 19:24:20 I never considered ehird an idiot. Just as very annoying. 19:24:39 I never said you considered me an idiot. I said you were an idiot. 19:24:40 and stubborn 19:24:58 ehird, that is your subjective opinion 19:25:01 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 19:25:25 In a world where everyone has to start every sentence with "IMO" because humans have lost the ability to realise that what people say is not always in the context of objective fact... 19:25:32 ...everyone is AnMaster. 19:27:31 no. Everyone is wikipedia 19:27:34 that is what you meant. 19:28:27 that doesn't even class as a joke. 19:28:45 ehird: it isn't a joke, just an observation 19:28:48 and quite an interesting one 19:28:56 ofc, knowing AnMaster it might have meant to be a joke, but i don't think so 19:29:08 No, I'm pretty sure that was meant as a joke. 19:29:38 AnMaster: well? 19:30:08 [citation needed] 19:30:22 oerjan: Har har har that is so funny the 50th time 19:30:40 oerjan: i for one can see no difference between AnMaster and ehird as far as bannability is concerned. <<< i do. 19:30:44 erm this time it actually fit 19:31:01 they'd have completely different reasons for being banned. 19:31:03 oklopol: lemme guess, I'm bannable he's not? 19:31:08 ais523, no it wasn't a joke 19:31:32 (and if you asked that before ais523 implied that if it was a joke, it was awful ...) 19:31:46 ehird: I don't think AnMaster would lie about such things 19:31:49 jokes are no laughing matter 19:31:56 augh.... 19:32:03 ehird: no, objectively speaking you both are very bannable, you're very stubborn and tend to insult people just for the fuck of it 24/7, and AnMaster is... very AnMaster. 19:32:21 OK, know what? I'll come back when AnMaster's gone and we're actually discussing something 19:32:23 -!- ehird has left (?). 19:32:23 (people = AnMaster, mostly) 19:32:28 -!- bsmntbombdood has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 19:32:37 o 19:32:39 o 19:32:55 but you are correct, I wouldn't lie about that. Nor would I actually lie about anything really, unless it is a matter of life of death or such. (Like if someone was pointing a gun at you...) 19:33:02 also, disappears once someone other than AnMaster actually says something bad about him... 19:33:14 oerjan, yes I mentioned that above. 19:33:15 :P 19:33:17 I rarely lie, except in contexts where people expect lying to be appropriate 19:33:23 such as certain games where lying is part of the game 19:33:26 -!- bsmntbombdood has joined. 19:33:41 ais523, well ok, but I don't like such games 19:33:49 AnMaster: wait, it's _you_ who are supposed to have the short attention span... 19:34:00 oerjan, no? Isn't it ehird? 19:34:16 he claims it's you. that may confuse me sometimes. 19:34:58 oerjan, I'm the guy who can edit 20 C files each 2000+ lines at once and still manage to keep track of which function was where, even when the files lack a consistent function naming scheme. 19:35:03 i occasionally lie accidentally, like, explain something incorrectly, and don't bother to correct it. 19:35:14 because who's gonna know. 19:35:15 (of course, I wouldn't remember the next day) 19:35:35 oklopol, well I guess that could happen, but I try to correct it if I see I made an error. 19:36:20 ais523: i don't manage to play such games... 19:36:32 oerjan, actually, that "disappears once someone other than AnMaster actually says something bad about him..." is not exactly what I mentioned. ehird hasn't rejoined to make a one line comment and then part again, yet... 19:36:39 but maybe he will do that soon. 19:36:52 of course he is reading logs all the time 19:37:07 the problem is i care very little about actualy facts about specific people, i prefer having conversations about more general stuff, using myself only as an example 19:37:12 * AnMaster waits for: * ehird joined No I don't read logs! * ehird parted 19:37:14 yep, ehird left ##nomic in a huff and hasn't rejoined since, but apparently logreads it anyway 19:37:37 oklopol, hm? How is that a problem? 19:37:50 except in irc, but that's quite a different persona. 19:37:59 ohg 19:38:00 oh* 19:38:05 AnMaster: the point is if i accidentally lie, i don't see any reason to correct it. 19:38:06 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:38:14 because it's not about me, it's about the facts 19:38:39 oklopol, hm so if you lie about the facts, you don't correct it? 19:39:04 or only if you lie about yourself. 19:39:44 the kind of facts i'm talking about you cannot lie about. more like "this courses material could be considered not very suitable for university for reason X" 19:40:16 (i rarely talk about anything other than my own education nowadays) 19:40:17 yeah it's just as sure as 2+2=5 19:40:26 oerjan, :) 19:40:47 oerjan, at these temperatures we have now it is more usually 2+2=3 though... 19:41:06 I mean, not even in Swedish summer we reach 2+2=5 19:41:15 you would have to go to south Europe for that. 19:41:22 AnMaster: if i tell someone i went to the shop the day before, but i actually went there two days ago, i will not correct it, i'll just make sure it doesn't come up i lied. 19:41:29 (and that wasn't a lie, but a joke) 19:41:30 because that would just clutter the conversation 19:41:33 it does not matter. 19:42:05 but! 19:42:07 need to go again. 19:42:08 -> 19:42:22 oklopol, what if the discussion was about having an alibi for someone you saw in the shop? 19:42:23 :D 19:45:10 -!- impomatic has joined. 19:45:49 AnMaster: the IWC forum discussion for the current comic is - disturbing 19:46:03 GAH! I haven't read the forum 19:46:22 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:46:24 GREAT SUCCESS :D 19:46:37 oerjan, hehe 19:46:39 oerjan: why would you engage in conversation about iwc right when ehird is not here to witness it :P 19:46:50 oklopol, you forgot he is log reading. 19:46:57 what's the whole IWC meme anyway? 19:47:00 I must have missed it 19:47:06 ais523, no meme. 19:47:19 well, it seems to have become a meme even if it wasn't 19:47:21 oklopol: um, what? 19:47:26 AnMaster: i try my best not to consider logreaders. 19:47:33 ais523, I just happened to comment on IWC before oerjan read it a few times. 19:47:36 i don't like to be talking to anyone who happens to be watching. 19:47:37 ais523: AnMaster just likes to discuss the comic... 19:47:45 i'm talking to whoever is active here. 19:48:57 oerjan: "AM: butt i liek talk oerjan bout a iwc! HRD: lol he not speak anyway... AM: oh i sory if he don care then i'll not speak no mores :|" 19:49:23 * impomatic summons ehird 19:49:54 oerjan: and because you contradicted that for the first time right after ehird's departure, i felt like it was statistically important enough to mention. 19:49:55 oerjan, hm I agree. Very disturbing... 19:50:10 -!- unlambda has joined. 19:50:19 oklopol, there is no way I would talk like that. 19:50:22 ```eek 19:50:23 Result: e 19:50:31 also wondering why that book joined again... without ehird. 19:50:41 impomatic: but AnMaster just unsummoned him 19:50:43 maybe he took it offline to be able to talk through it? 19:50:52 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:50:58 hum 19:51:04 -!- unlambda has joined. 19:51:09 hm that's weird 19:51:12 `````````````````.c.a.n. .i. .u.n.l.a.m.b.d.a.?i 19:51:13 "" (line 1, column 48): 19:51:13 unexpected end of input 19:51:14 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 19:51:18 sdfioj 19:51:19 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:51:24 oh I see. he want to cycle spam it 19:51:25 sigh 19:51:29 * oklopol can not. 19:51:30 -!- unlambda has joined. 19:51:40 unicycle megaspam 19:51:48 ````````````````.c.a.n. .i. .u.n.l.a.m.b.d.a.?i 19:51:49 can i unlambda? Result: i 19:51:54 \o/ 19:52:08 * oklopol knows his way around this one 19:52:16 ``oo 19:52:17 oklopol, cycle spam = 10 JOIN 20 PART (or quit) 30 GOTO 10 19:52:17 "" (line 1, column 4): 19:52:18 unexpected end of input 19:52:19 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 19:53:00 AnMaster: oh he added an irc extension? basikell is advancing quickly. 19:53:20 oklopol, What? 19:53:53 AnMaster: it's a reference to something you didn't see 19:54:13 but seriously, i have to go now. i mean like at this mo. 19:54:15 -> 19:54:26 cya 19:54:51 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 19:55:03 -!- unlambda has joined. 19:55:25 AnMaster: http://augustss.blogspot.com/2009/02/regression-they-say-that-as-you-get.html 19:55:35 * AnMaster looks 19:55:54 hm that page layout looks extremely familiar.... 19:57:32 oerjan, no download link? 19:58:24 hm no 19:58:31 :/ 20:03:25 why not GOTO 20 20:04:20 oklopol, Because you just used -> of course... 20:04:52 and you have already used it twice without a matching <- today 20:04:54 at least twice 20:04:57 @_X 20:04:58 maybe more 20:05:04 oerjan, what? 20:05:04 y_Y 20:05:11 * oerjan is confused 20:05:12 I fail to interpret that smiley 20:05:27 oh 20:05:28 lol 20:05:42 oerjan, logical, if "->" is "out" or "away", then "<-" would be "in" or "here". 20:05:43 took me a while to understand that given that it made absolutely no sense :P 20:05:47 so you need to match them 20:05:57 but yeah i generally assume people can sense my returns without a sign. 20:06:43 oklopol, hey how do you expect me to mindread over IRC? 20:06:52 oklopol, I consider <- and -> as refcount 20:06:55 so it has to match up 20:06:58 same way as anywhere else 20:07:15 oerjan, well not over long distance internet :P 20:07:15 ESP over ISP 20:07:19 AnMaster: there's only one oklopol, you don't have to refcount him 20:07:20 augh! 20:07:46 ais523, what about oklofok? 20:07:55 and the other variants 20:07:56 Hmmm... codegolf.com does well on programming reddit, but anarchy golf gets voted down :-( 20:08:06 impomatic, strange 20:08:14 ais523: but what if someone throws him in the garbage? 20:08:35 anarchy golf looks unprofessional 20:08:47 because there's so much crazy stuff going on behind the scenes there hasn't been time to polish the interface 20:08:49 probaly that's it 20:09:20 you'd think all those libertarians would like it, no? 20:09:39 codegolf.com looks professional IFF "Connection timed out" is considered to look professional. 20:09:54 Though I admit that the firefox "Connection timed out" DOES look professional. 20:10:22 "oh my god they must have sommuch usserz!" 20:10:42 oklopol, ? 20:11:13 i don't actually know what causes connection timed out in general. 20:11:14 what about sammich users? 20:11:23 maybe reddit? 20:11:30 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:11:36 sammich? 20:11:37 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has joined. 20:11:40 i mean i don't know what causes it in general. 20:11:42 -!- unlambda has joined. 20:11:50 hi ehird 20:11:54 oerjan, wtf is sammich? 20:11:59 JFGI 20:12:01 (i'm assuming anything that makes to connection time out, but how should i know.) 20:12:03 ais523, huh? 20:12:06 *makes the 20:12:09 AnMaster: unlambda is ehird's bot 20:12:14 ais523, yes I know 20:12:15 and? 20:12:19 and ehird has been known for bot shenanigans in the past 20:12:21 ` 20:12:22 "" (line 1, column 1): 20:12:22 unexpected end of input 20:12:23 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 20:12:28 ais523, well ok true 20:12:30 probably ehird doesn't even ened to logread 20:12:34 because the bot's logging 20:12:36 good point. 20:12:56 bog's lotting 20:13:05 bog? 20:13:10 Hmmm... 20:13:24 isn't that some sort of marshland feature? 20:13:25 the whole hog 20:13:35 ais523, am I right? 20:13:35 ```s`s`ckc 20:13:35 on a log 20:13:37 Result: ``s`s`k*c 20:13:45 AnMaster: sort of, yes 20:13:52 do you only know about bogs from wargames? 20:13:53 oerjan, s/^/snakes / 20:13:54 :P 20:14:09 -!- ais523 has quit. 20:14:11 adders, to be specific 20:14:13 what? 20:14:21 and I don't know wargames 20:14:27 but why did ais quit... 20:16:11 it's a conundrum 20:16:15 -!- unlambda has quit (Remote closed the connection). 20:16:17 well 20:16:24 it is a case of ircd fail 20:16:27 -!- unlambda has joined. 20:16:32 since it didn't include a quit reason 20:20:32 hope ais get back soon 20:25:50 also hi ehird ^W unlambda 20:28:11 Unlambda is too unlambdy 20:28:22 `fi 20:28:23 "" (line 1, column 3): 20:28:24 unexpected end of input 20:28:24 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 20:28:30 `.fi 20:28:31 "" (line 1, column 3): 20:28:32 oops 20:28:32 unexpected "i" 20:28:33 expecting "!" or end of input 20:28:42 So it's like that, is it 20:28:45 `.fi! 20:28:45 "" (line 1, column 3): 20:28:46 unexpected "i" 20:28:47 expecting "!" or end of input 20:28:51 ... 20:28:53 D: 20:29:05 Unlamda, talk to me! 20:31:08 ``.fi 20:31:09 f Result: i 20:32:36 Why is the extra ` required? 20:32:49 just to confuse people 20:32:57 and that's the official explanation 20:32:58 You are confusing me, oerjan. 20:33:30 well, ar figgle boof nybble grip grop 20:33:51 hm 20:34:06 Slereah2, it use it as an activator char 20:34:07 in here 20:34:09 that is why 20:34:23 well, ar figgle boof nybble grip grop <-- what? 20:34:53 Mup Da Doo Didda Po Mo Gub Bidda Be Dat Tum 4chan meme usually (but not always) used as the black version of fgsfds. Muhfuggen bix nood 20:35:17 sometimes i have to wonder if AnMaster _is_ a bot... 20:35:33 AnMaster say botty things. 20:35:59 oerjan, Why do you say so? 20:36:02 say that* 20:37:06 well, ar figgle boof nybble grip grop <-- what? 20:37:22 oerjan, So how do you feel about your ar figgle boof nybble grip? 20:38:14 well it's quite nice but i wish it had a chrome finish 20:38:43 oerjan, Is it because you wish it had a chrome finish that you came to me? 20:38:51 no. 20:38:56 You're a reknowned chromer. 20:38:58 oerjan, Why not? 20:39:47 * AnMaster waits for oerjan to answer... 20:39:51 because in 1635, Art van Goorpuddle invented the prewashed gnarl pusher 20:40:08 it's a bit weird, doesn't joke *that* much in , but for some reason, every time it's mentioned that there's a timer overflow issue (Y2K, CD-rom, unix and msdos timestamps etc), he makes a joke, "every extra 88 years help" "so you should start preparing for the 2136 problem as early as possible". 20:40:15 oerjan, I see... Well, are you sure that this is so? 20:40:26 i mean every time 20:40:34 the book has like 20 of them 20:40:56 well why else would they use the trapezoid dumplings? 20:40:58 oklopol, why 88 years? 20:41:20 oerjan, When did you first know that else would they use the trapezoid dumplings? 20:41:26 and also about cd's lasting 100 years, "check back in 208X to see how well the first batch did" 20:41:42 when i was a little kid 20:41:43 AnMaster: i think that one was about msdos 20:42:03 they used a 65536 counter for storing the amount of seconds in a day 20:42:09 oerjan, Can you elaborate on that? 20:42:31 no. 20:42:41 and something just as stupid for years/months/days, 88 years was what would've been saved using unix's way 20:42:41 oerjan, Are you annoyed that I ask that? 20:43:08 oklopol: um, 86400 > 65536 20:43:21 oerjan: and? 20:43:45 so exactly which seconds did they leave out? 20:43:52 oklopol, btw, on Linux x86_64 the time_t is 64-bit, not 32-bit 20:43:58 so this computer will have no issues. 20:44:11 oerjan: hard to say. 20:44:22 probably whatever roundoff gave em 20:44:36 it was "accurate to +-2 seconds" 20:44:46 so. you can estimate at least 20:44:47 oklopol, :D 20:44:48 eek 20:45:11 oerjan, I would appreciate it if you would continue. 20:45:28 i'm sure you would. 20:45:38 oerjan, Do you really think you are sure I would? 20:45:38 AnMaster: i know that. probably if i read the modern unix part of the book, he'd say "so remember to update your computer before the year 29289376427324!". 20:45:47 no. 20:46:00 in fact i should probably read it just to confirm that. 20:46:08 oerjan, if you haven't figured it out, I was feeding what you said to an eliza style bot and pasting the replies back :P 20:46:40 oklopol, what is this book? 20:46:43 of course 20:46:59 x = tanenbaum, y = modern operating systems 20:47:03 oerjan, when did you figure it out 20:47:08 oklopol, "tanenbaum"? 20:47:14 wtf does that mean. 20:47:20 oerjan, So how do you feel about your ar figgle boof nybble grip? 20:47:25 AnMaster: yeah, he's the third most famous operating systems dude. 20:47:57 oerjan, at that point I was actually making it up myself, I started using emacs' M-x doctor at the next line. 20:47:58 AnMaster: it's german for christmas tree 20:48:03 at least i consider him that, of course i'm a bit biased (read: ignorant) when it comes to stuff like this 20:48:07 oerjan, I see. then it makes no sense. 20:48:27 AnMaster: tanenbaum is the author of minix 20:48:34 oh 20:48:36 nice name 20:48:44 you don't know minix? 20:48:49 John Christmas tree 20:48:50 oklopol, I do 20:48:57 but I didn't know the author of it 20:49:03 right, right. 20:49:08 I heard about it, how Torvalds began using it and so on 20:49:22 some say ignorance is bliss, others say ignorance is bias 20:49:49 anyway back to reading overflow jokes -> 20:49:53 oerjan, just wondering, was that supposed to be a joke? 20:49:56 oklopol, have fun! 20:50:07 will do. 20:50:41 AnMaster: random rambling, nothing to see here, mock on 20:50:46 oklopol, someone really needs to design an OS using some bignum scheme for date and time. 20:50:57 oerjan, gah... 20:51:15 hm actually it means "fir tree" originally 20:51:26 (and should have a double n) 20:51:57 oerjan, hah at the very last comment in the IWC forum thread for today's comic! 20:52:08 AnMaster: someone not including any ordinary humans, i say 20:52:25 oerjan, uh? 20:52:35 * oerjan checks if there's a new comment 20:53:51 Is there a website that covers esoteric operating systems? 20:53:54 this day of the week really sucks when it comes to web comic. Only the daily ones update on sat. 20:54:01 oklopol, someone really needs to design an OS using some bignum scheme for date and time. 20:54:17 oerjan, just to prevent that joking author yes 20:54:23 AnMaster: also, Buck Godot 20:54:31 oerjan, HUH? 20:54:41 updates on saturdays 20:54:44 oh 20:54:46 right 20:54:48 * AnMaster googles 20:55:15 oerjan, I mean xkcd and darth and droids are offset so one of them update every weekday 20:55:34 yes 20:55:46 http://www.geekologie.com/2009/02/07/bacon-chart-2.jpg 20:55:57 Mony, ehird isn't here 20:56:03 D&D did that on purpose 20:56:09 oerjan, yes I know 20:56:11 lol 20:56:17 why did you say that ? 20:56:29 -!- alex89ru has quit ("Verlassend"). 20:57:03 Mony: he left in a huff 20:57:24 AnMaster overdose :D 20:57:40 + a bit of side comments 20:58:00 anyway 20:58:03 I hate bacon 20:58:10 mm bacon 20:58:14 really no 20:58:18 mm garlic! 20:58:32 AnMaster: you're all set for converting to islam i see :D 20:58:52 oerjan, oh? Actually I like pig in other forms 20:58:58 just not as "bacon" 21:07:07 oerjan, about that web comic you mentioned, is it good? 21:07:54 * oerjan panics as someone asks him a taste question 21:08:15 oerjan, um why? 21:08:39 I have also considered starting reading Order of the stick, read a few of it, but haven't had a lot of free time. 21:09:45 i don't have the foggiest idea whether the things i like are "good" or not 21:10:37 oerjan, so what web comics do you like? 21:10:41 So I can compare 21:11:39 ok it's probably good, really, it's by Phil Foglio 21:11:49 never heard the name before 21:11:54 huh? 21:11:59 same as half of Girl Genius 21:12:06 never heard of that either 21:12:07 heh, never realised 21:12:13 both great comics 21:12:36 though Foglio's earlier career is showing through in the GG artwork a bit too much for my tastes 21:12:59 even more so in Buck Godot, i think 21:12:59 * AnMaster reads xkcd, IWC, Darth and Droids, sqrt(-garfield), UF 21:13:12 Referring to xxxenophile? :-P 21:13:15 all quite geeky I'm afraid 21:13:21 Deewiant: no 21:14:06 oh and I used to read DM of the rings, but that one finished. 21:14:14 AnMaster: also Freefall 21:14:24 (I think I began reading it about one month before it finished or so?) 21:14:28 * SimonRC reads freefall too 21:14:35 * AnMaster googles 21:14:49 UH UH 21:14:52 it's for the scifi, honest, no the furry 21:14:54 mind you i got to most of my webcomics from this channel 21:14:55 "Sci-fi furry serial. New comic on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays." 21:14:56 ... 21:15:00 is what google says 21:15:03 no thanks 21:15:08 AnMaster: furry is singular BTW 21:15:19 SimonRC, yes and? 21:15:33 it definitely leans more to the sci-fi side 21:15:34 I just copied that line from google 21:15:40 AnMaster: actually freefall is _not_ anything to do with fetishes and such 21:15:42 http://www.geekologie.com/2009/02/07/bacon-chart-2.jpg <<< finally a chart that's not annoyingly hard to follow. 21:15:49 oerjan, how boring ;P 21:16:21 i'd say Buck Godot and Girl Genius are much more fixated on such... 21:16:32 as SimonRC hinted 21:16:42 ok I just checked that website, and the comic there makes no sense at all 21:16:47 SimonRC: what were you referring to, then? 21:16:56 AnMaster: freefall today? 21:17:09 oerjan, yes 21:17:20 AnMaster: freefall is a long story, also it's (in)famous for going _very_ slowly 21:17:32 right 21:17:42 I'm not up for archive reading atm 21:17:52 so short story arcs is what I currently want 21:18:02 Yes I read the whole IWC archive once upon a time 21:18:26 AnMaster: in today's comic an old adversary finally gets a bit of comeuppance 21:18:31 Deewiant: I meant Foglio's earlier pornography career means most of the women in GG have much cleavage and most of the men great muscles. 21:18:52 AnMaster: for short arcs, try bruno the bandit 21:18:52 SimonRC: yes, that's what I was referring to as well :-P 21:19:03 oerjan, why does one person fall asleep? 21:19:06 and so on 21:19:10 arcs are multiples of 6 days; many early ones just 6 days 21:19:20 AnMaster: it makes perfect sense in context 21:19:30 SimonRC, if you say so...... 21:21:04 AnMaster: specifically, Florence is a (biological) AI fitted with some kind of deactivation mechanism triggered by the blue remote. and the manager in the background has had his tongue stuck to the crygenic pipe for several strips 21:21:42 I see 21:23:08 AnMaster: he deserved it, too 21:23:17 :D 21:23:25 on another topic altogether... A google ad made me click today: http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CP7U7u-Gm7q4YBDUAxgxMgimBzKu44bkzA 21:23:25 right 21:23:41 oerjan, it seems a bit too complex to understand the comic 21:23:46 it goes to this rather entertaining scam-like thing: http://www.therichjerk.com/ 21:23:58 AnMaster: yeah it's not gag-a-day 21:23:59 AnMaster: typically one starts from the beginning of the archives 21:24:21 oerjan, that is what I prefer. Or gag every few days. I'm fine with short story arcs of maybe a week or so 21:24:39 SimonRC, yes I did that with IWC... and you know it took me 3 days of doing nothing else. 21:25:03 common problem, that 21:25:14 AnMaster: you don't have to catch up quickly 21:25:17 see also, tv tropes *duck* 21:25:18 that guy is not better than me. 21:25:37 oerjan, oh yes I hated his annotations when archive reading 21:25:38 oerjan: 300 firefox tabs and counting... 21:25:44 all the links to tvtropes 21:26:06 there are worse comics for annotation 21:26:19 oerjan, in fact I have to forcefully limit myself to a recursion depth of 2 on tvtropes 21:27:14 many comics that are by 2 people have 5 times as much text below the comic as in it. 21:27:34 fucks up your following of the storyline 21:27:41 also maybe i should mentioned some _finished_ comics i've read: 1/0, Narbonics, A miracle of Science 21:27:58 -!- impomatic has quit ("issue 3 of nanoWarrior http://tr.im/19ys :-)"). 21:28:02 SimonRC, yes indeed, I never read such a comic 21:28:19 oh Casey and Andy 21:28:20 oerjan, oh I read a few of Narbonics once, didn't really like it 21:28:25 read about 50 strips or so iirc 21:28:46 oerjan: done, done (but not the annotated repeat), done, done 21:28:58 i liked narbonics, but i dropped the new one by the same author (Skin Horse) 21:29:05 oerjan: why? 21:29:09 (well with coauthor) 21:29:23 it felt sort of boring 21:29:55 also, it had the bad sense of having comments on the same page, i got stuck on them... :D 21:30:09 oerjan, 1/0 I haven't heard of, and google just gives unrelated results, about binary computers... 21:30:10 (discussion forum) 21:30:53 AnMaster: um it's the first hit 21:31:07 oerjan, not here. 21:31:13 AnMaster: it's a slightly-anvilicious-yet-lampshaded work on have absolutely no forth wall 21:31:16 AnMaster: http://www.google.com/search?q=1%2F0 21:31:17 *fourth 21:31:32 Deewiant, cached results I assume 21:31:50 http://www.undefined.net/1/0/ 21:31:56 if you ignore the Monotheist Message in the 500s and 600s its good 21:31:59 *it's 21:32:04 because first result is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero, then www.bbc.co.uk/go/homepage/i/int/sport/worldtop/4/-/news/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7844592.stm 21:32:34 Deewiant, yes you don't get same result at all google servers at the same time point 21:32:37 is this really news? 21:33:02 ugh that comic needs javascript? 21:33:09 for my daily dose of the sick and twisted, I also read SMBC (since PBF and TPLIF are kaput) 21:33:22 AnMaster: for the navigation, alas 21:33:25 oh Triangle and Robert 21:33:26 TPLIF? 21:33:43 that's _very_ geeky 21:33:50 oerjan: yeah, TnR is another good bit of no-forth-wallery, with crap art 21:33:53 also no fourth wall 21:33:57 Deewiant: the parking lot is full 21:34:12 SimonRC, I feel no need for "sick and twisted" 21:34:17 the crappy art is actually turned into a plot device 21:34:22 but what does does abbreviations mean? 21:34:27 TPLIF is the one that did the world-adopts-language-consisting-entirely-of-"chicken" joke 21:34:28 what does it mean not to have a fourth wall 21:34:32 ah 21:34:36 oerjan answered already 21:34:38 oh I used to read dinosaur comics 21:34:45 sometimes it is quite good 21:34:53 PBF is Perry Bible Fellowship 21:34:54 oklopol: i did? 21:34:57 and you don't really need to read archive 21:34:59 for it 21:35:04 oerjan: the crappy art is actually turned into a plot device 21:35:23 oklopol: well through the lack of fourth wall 21:35:24 oerjan, ^ 21:36:25 oerjan: i wasn't sure at first whether not having a fourht wall meant what it means or that they *don't* break it. 21:36:29 you know 21:36:32 because it's hard to understand negations. 21:36:42 hm i looked a bit at Dinosaur Comics but it didn't hook me 21:36:49 the fourth wall comes from theatre, accoring to TVTropes 21:36:53 i don't understand dinosaur comics 21:37:11 oklopol: it's an exercise in restricted artform 21:37:15 i don't think i've understood even one strip, and i've read lots of them. 21:37:30 SimonRC: i understand the concept, i don't understand the jokes. 21:37:45 I don't read D.C. 21:39:27 * SimonRC eats pizza. 21:39:28 -!- icefox has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 21:39:43 * oklopol too, soon, probably 21:40:08 Ah yes, comics. 21:40:19 Consensus is that Freefall is the best one, I believe. :-P 21:40:31 SimonRC: i understand the concept, i don't understand the jokes. <-- I think it is often funny 21:40:41 kerlo, xkcd and IWC! 21:41:00 no way I accept any furry comic as the best one 21:41:23 it's not furry! except for the main character. 21:41:49 What's IWC? 21:41:58 I Want Cex 21:42:00 Irregular Webcomic 21:42:07 xkcd suffers from xkcd syndrome. 21:42:08 it's not furry! except for the main character. <-- bash.org time? 21:42:22 * oerjan doesn't read bash.org either 21:42:23 kerlo, what? beeing too geeky? 21:42:24 http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/ 21:42:39 oerjan, that isn't a web comic. it is a irc quote database 21:42:40 ... 21:42:45 an* 21:42:48 just irc? 21:42:52 "Hey, look! I can put a sarcastic statement in a speech bubble and call it a comic strip!" 21:42:57 oerjan, as far as I know it dominates 21:43:04 i sort of figured it was quotes, from the links i've seen 21:43:10 kerlo, well that is art. 21:43:14 s/in a speech bubble/between quotation marks/ if you want irony. 21:43:26 Also what comic is furry? 21:43:29 There's no point in having a comic strip if you're just going to have one character saying something. 21:43:32 Slereah2: Freefall. 21:43:40 kerlo, err do you mean xkcd? 21:43:43 I do not know it 21:43:44 Sauce? 21:43:47 AnMaster: yes. 21:43:56 kerlo, saw that duck rotation recently? 21:44:00 I thought it rocked 21:44:06 I have seen it. 21:44:06 *duck loop 21:44:13 kerlo, and you claim it is bad? 21:45:13 Not all of them. 21:45:32 IWC has more or less turned into a small webcomic empire, with Darths & Droids and Mezzacotta's 4 comics... 21:45:34 The Drake equation one was particularly bad, I think. 21:45:48 (for various values of "comics") 21:46:00 "You know, Frank Drake once said something that isn't quite right. He admitted it afterward, but still." 21:46:05 If I'm not mistaken. 21:46:11 kerlo, link? 21:46:28 and that must have been in the tooltip or? 21:47:04 http://xkcd.com/384/ 21:48:32 Not so much "he admitted it afterward" as "it was a rough guess that he expected everyone would forget about". 21:48:35 not that bad 21:48:40 well ok 21:48:53 kerlo, I don't require it to be perfect every day 21:49:01 but I like it overall 21:49:08 and it is geeky 21:49:34 kerlo, just remember it inspired youtube to add the "audio preview" for example 21:49:42 (for comments) 21:49:50 no idea if they still have that 21:49:51 Being influential doesn't mean I like it. 21:50:12 kerlo, and I happen to like it :) 21:50:22 Indeed. 21:50:49 How often does it preach about DRM? 21:51:27 I love hearing that DRM sucks, since it isn't obvious and Slashdot doesn't exist. 21:52:50 -!- Judofyr has joined. 21:53:24 kerlo, I don't read slashdot 21:56:35 -!- icefox has joined. 22:05:26 -!- oklopol has changed nick to oklofyug. 22:05:37 fluyg floyug 22:05:57 are you speaking danish? 22:06:13 :) 22:06:15 o 22:06:16 o 22:12:30 en flyvende flue fløj? 22:14:00 hm? 22:14:08 * AnMaster considers what that means 22:14:20 en flygande fluga flög? 22:14:28 oerjan, stämmer det? 22:14:54 tror det 22:15:05 also I did start archive reading that freefall, not too bad so far, (131 comics done so far if I interpret the url format correctly) 22:15:18 iwc took a lot longer. bloody annotations 22:19:58 oerjan, btw, "a flying fly flied" except that is a lot more confusing in English 22:20:30 oerjan, was that a correct translation of what you said? 22:21:03 assuming what i said was correct 22:21:23 oerjan, it wasn't Norwegian? 22:21:24 * oerjan cannot guarantee that, not being danish 22:21:29 I see 22:21:34 um no 22:21:35 what would it be in Norwegian? 22:21:49 en flyvende flue fløy 22:22:03 Well closer to Danish than Swedish I think 22:22:04 admittedly not very different :) 22:22:07 Well,* 22:22:19 ei flygande floge flaug 22:22:24 ^ nynorsk 22:22:37 Closer to um... nothing 22:24:01 one word in common with swedish 22:25:17 true 22:26:52 -!- ehird has joined. 22:26:58 * ehird reads logs to catch up 22:27:18 hi ehird 22:27:18 :) 22:27:30 and I don't believe that. 22:27:34 oerjan, SimonRC: yeah, 1/0 is great, the religion part was kind of ridiculous though 22:27:52 no way I accept any furry comic as the best one 22:27:54 Insecure much? 22:28:17 If "furry" means "has anthropomorphic animal characters", then there's a lot more than webcomics you have to disregard... 22:29:26 Disregard them, though 22:29:29 Because you suck cocks 22:29:45 <`∀´> Corean webcomics superior nida 22:30:35 oerjan, SimonRC: After reading 1/0 I went onto Tailsteak's site, it had some anti-gay marriage stuff and I was like :'( 22:31:14 Don't worry, ehird 22:31:18 You can gay marry me 22:31:28 not in california 22:32:05 You can marry me, in the eyes of Satan 22:32:31 Verily. 22:33:28 hm 22:33:51 * oerjan wonders if norway has any registered satanist ministers with marriage rights 22:35:10 Me. 22:35:24 you're not norwegian. 22:35:59 Oh really? 22:37:07 Yay my copyriht infringement is going speedily 22:37:12 ^_^ 22:37:15 ... ANYHOW 22:37:35 STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM! 22:38:17 :< 22:38:25 But Apple's Leopard price is crazily overinflated 22:38:36 Stop using Apple 22:44:29 -!- alex89ru has joined. 22:46:17 Hello alex89ru 22:46:23 hihi:) 22:46:41 Slereah2: no 22:46:46 What's bringing you here mah boiii? 22:47:04 oO me? 22:47:27 Yes you. 22:47:47 The smell of esoteric lead me here 22:47:55 I like esoteric =) 22:48:24 Let's eso it up! 22:48:29 okay 22:48:56 ``.t`.t`.u`.bi 22:48:58 butt Result: i 22:49:00 :D 22:49:47 ````.b.u.t.ti 22:49:48 "" (line 1, column 12): 22:49:49 unexpected "i" 22:49:49 OO 22:49:50 expecting "!" or end of input 22:49:55 Oh? 22:50:17 You need an extra ` at the beggining 22:50:24 Okay. 22:50:28 `````.b.u.t.ti 22:50:28 butt Result: i 22:50:54 ``a`b`c`d`e`f`g`h`i`j`k`l`m`n`o`p`q`r`s`t`u`v`w`x`yz 22:50:54 "" (line 1, column 52): 22:50:55 unexpected end of input 22:50:55 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 22:51:08 ``a`b`c`d`e`f`g`h`i`j`k`l`m`n`o`p`q`r`s`t`u`v`w`x`yzz 22:51:11 "" (line 1, column 53): 22:51:11 unexpected end of input 22:51:11 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 22:51:19 ``a`b`c`d`e`f`g`h`i`j`k`l`m`n`o`p`q`r`s`t`u`v`w`x`yzs 22:51:19 "" (line 1, column 53): 22:51:20 unexpected end of input 22:51:20 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 22:51:27 ``a`b`c`d`e`f`g`h`i`j`k`l`m`n`o`p`q`r`s`t`u`v`w`x`yzssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss 22:51:28 "" (line 1, column 82): 22:51:29 unexpected end of input 22:51:29 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 22:51:32 Eh. 22:51:53 ``bssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss 22:51:54 "" (line 1, column 77): 22:51:54 unexpected end of input 22:51:55 expecting "s", "k", "i", "v", "d", "c", "e", "@", "|", ".", "r", "?" or "`" 22:51:58 Yeah. 22:52:07 ``````.<.`.?.´.>i 22:52:08 <`?´> Result: i 22:52:26 Hm. That char doesn't display. 22:52:55 ```````````.<.`.V.´.>. .n.i.d.ai 22:52:56 <`V´> nida Result: i 22:59:06 hey 22:59:13 eso. languages like this one : 22:59:17 http://esolangs.org/wiki/2-ill 22:59:23 they dont have any effect =X 22:59:31 does it count as a language? 23:00:12 2-ill seems only to allow to move around through cells 23:00:20 alex89ru: it has input and output, too. 23:00:24 oh 23:00:45 aww rigth 23:00:48 I think I would define a language as a function whose input is a string. 23:01:07 I didn't read properly 23:01:19 north/south is in-/output 23:01:20 nice 23:01:28 alex89ru: consider something like Backflip or Smetana/Smatiny though 23:03:10 hm actually smatiny had output too 23:03:33 lol smetana seems to be funny 23:03:36 the swapping :D 23:06:49 nice idea 23:15:59 -!- Mony has quit ("Quit"). 23:26:48 -!- KingOfKarlsruhe has quit (Remote closed the connection). 23:30:02 -!- alex89ru has quit ("Verlassend"). 23:35:02 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 23:47:30 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 23:57:53 ```ccc 23:57:53 Result: * 23:57:55 ````cccc 23:57:56 Result: * 23:57:58 `````cccci 23:57:58 Result: i