< 1235260801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, the world is fail < 1235260801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: my dream is to make a modern lisp machine < 1235260802 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(damn that'd be cool :D) < 1235260806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use my OS on it < 1235260812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my own freaking hardware RUNNING LISP. < 1235260817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, price? < 1235260829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, fabricating silicon costs millions :p < 1235260834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'd sell it for millions! < 1235260839 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1235260846 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're back? either i missed that, or i imagined your departure. < 1235260855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he came back like 30m ago < 1235260864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, he isn't here < 1235260867 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't be silly < 1235260871 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1235260881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, maybe you need to visit a doctor if you are imagining things? < 1235260888 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, guess there's no use seeing what he answered to my message then. < 1235260906 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be for the best. < 1235260911 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, there was no message. The message was a lie. < 1235260914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol do you have a 64 bit cpu < 1235260916 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i like lies < 1235260919 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no < 1235260922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do! < 1235260924 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least i don't think so... < 1235260930 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: also, it was chocolate < 1235260932 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I know ehird has too < 1235260932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay my OS will support 32-bit then so you can use it :-P < 1235260943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the message was a chocolate? < 1235260945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1235260948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was planning only to support x86_64 < 1235260952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have no 32-bit compatibility mode. < 1235260953 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chocolate messages are the best < 1235260962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you are right < 1235261015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the window dec & shadow of this kde looks like vista on unfocused windows < 1235261020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1235261022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the shadow < 1235261024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i notice the weirdest things. < 1235261033 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err < 1235261037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :change KDE theme? < 1235261052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, possibly extra themes may be a separate package < 1235261056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are for KDE 3 iirc < 1235261058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it looks nice < 1235261060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1235261074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the shadow just vaguely looks like vista under certain conditions < 1235261076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "looks like vista" "it looks nice" < 1235261078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail < 1235261084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shadow looks like vista" < 1235261089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, vista isn't too ugly. < 1235261091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it beats xp. < 1235261096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gnome. < 1235261110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, win2000 beats all of them < 1235261112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fact < 1235261116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :win2000 is fugly < 1235261126 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Mac OS 7 beats win2000 < 1235261132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cp/m ftw < 1235261138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah < 1235261146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SYMBOLICS GENERA FTW < 1235261149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ and I mean it < 1235261156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes of course < 1235261168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i so want to splash out $3500 on a lisp machine :-( < 1235261176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, + plane fee to avoid absurd shipping costs < 1235261182 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yay thank you. except now i need to use it. < 1235261188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ??? < 1235261195 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :water color painting beats them all! < 1235261202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"so oklo, i wrote these 30000 lines of compatibility code for your 32-bit" < 1235261203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wow: http://symbolics.com/ < 1235261212 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wanna try the os?" < 1235261214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what about it? < 1235261221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you can still get it :) < 1235261224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1235261227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not making any new ones < 1235261239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a lifeless shell of a company < 1235261243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true < 1235261244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they'll still give you a lisp machine on request < 1235261256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, really? they have some left in stock? < 1235261259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what do they cost < 1235261273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$3500 for the top of the line one < 1235261278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ insanely high shipping costs < 1235261281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, which is outdated yes < 1235261285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second < 1235261289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finding the price list < 1235261291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but question is, do they make new ones < 1235261295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely not < 1235261299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think they have since the 80s < 1235261301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just sell out what is left of stock? < 1235261306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't going fast? < 1235261309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1235261330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://www.lispmachine.net/symbolics.txt < 1235261332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :full price lists < 1235261349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks
< 1235261350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the macivory stuff is a modified mac + lisp card < 1235261353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less pure but cheaper < 1235261364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd either want the XL120{0,1} or the 36xx < 1235261368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1235261373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter is $675 < 1235261381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is surprisingly cheap < 1235261383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, really < 1235261391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1235261404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that david k schmidt guy commented on an opengenera piratebay torrent < 1235261412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read and lol: < 1235261430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dkschmidt at 2007-08-15 02:24 CET: < 1235261431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Congratulations on downloading the finest software development environment ever created. If you want to find out more about Genera or would like to have a Symbolics Lisp Machine, check out the Symbolics website at www.symbolics.com or contact sales@symbolics.com. < 1235261445 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1235261460 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i go now? < 1235261471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO. < 1235261486 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly you can. whether you may is a different matter. < 1235261492 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh where can I get opengenera? < 1235261496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where can I use it < 1235261513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like do I need an ALPHA emulator or such? < 1235261517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme find the bloggers post for you < 1235261523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://collison.ie/blog/2008/04/lisp-machines < 1235261529 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you have accidentally got stuck on something, i guess. < 1235261538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you need a separate lunix < 1235261540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :install < 1235261548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lunix? < 1235261549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because genera writes over /etc/hosts < 1235261550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and similar < 1235261552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: linux :P < 1235261552 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even if you did it on purpose. < 1235261555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235261563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I could have it in a chroot yes < 1235261573 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but will i? < 1235261586 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most importantly, should i < 1235261587 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: do i look like an oracle? < 1235261593 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1235261597 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1235261598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, torrent still live? < 1235261611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1235261613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1235261616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite slow last time I ran it < 1235261617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but live < 1235261624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tpb is currently in court < 1235261635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the court is currently saying "yeah, go away prosecutors" < 1235261637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I dare use it atm? Probably not < 1235261639 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see. but not the future, alas. < 1235261642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because their arguments are ridiculous < 1235261646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they're not suing the users < 1235261647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just the operators < 1235261657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well who knows what will happen in the future < 1235261657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1235261665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :last I looked it wasn't like that < 1235261666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1235261670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan => oreajn => oraejn => (rotate n into a c) oraejc => oracej => (straighten j and reverse the end) oracle < 1235261687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the only thing in the logs will be you hitting TPB tracker < 1235261690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the rest is totally distributed < 1235261695 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that where you got your nick? < 1235261701 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1235261702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hitting a bittorrent tracker URL is hardly illegal < 1235261719 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, sorry, my mistake, i guess i'll have to listen to ehird then. < 1235261721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you live in oceania < 1235261726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err < 1235261729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :error from tracker < 1235261730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth < 1235261735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now that is odd < 1235261735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"invalid response from tracker" < 1235261736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what error? < 1235261738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. < 1235261739 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i guess i'm stuck here forever. < 1235261741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :give it a few minutes < 1235261744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ktorrent < 1235261747 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: beware of lying oracles. < 1235261750 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should try some other one < 1235261752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work in a bit < 1235261767 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wonder what it means < 1235261771 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invalid in what way < 1235261776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :servers are having a booboo? < 1235261784 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: would an oracle lie just to be able to hint he did with a metaphor? < 1235261788 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you live in oceania, knowing that bittorrent trackers exist is illegal. < 1235261797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as in timed out, error message, corrupt data, or what? < 1235261802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: who knows < 1235261824 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: quite possibly < 1235261846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw who is that "dkschmidt"? < 1235261852 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: damn i was hoping for a metaphor :P < 1235261893 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. maybe i'll sleep anyway. play by my own rules. < 1235261894 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1235261896 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth < 1235261897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: symbolics salesman < 1235261899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same guy on symbolics.com < 1235261903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and at the end of that price list < 1235261906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235261915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in other words he doesn't care very much < 1235261924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most likely < 1235261931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if he really cares, he's taking advantage of the situation :P < 1235261949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like timeout < 1235261976 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_proof_system < 1235262009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :udp://tracker.thepiratebay.org:80/announce == dead < 1235262039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1235262041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: replace it with http < 1235262042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ipv6 fail < 1235262045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1235262053 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I suspect < 1235262080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not < 1235262083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :non-ipv6 fail < 1235262091 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it responds to ping6 but not ping < 1235262092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth < 1235262160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe ktorrent can't handle ipv6 < 1235262160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1235262165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe my firewall fails < 1235262293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fuck emacs fonts are huge < 1235262316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, change the terminal font then < 1235262323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or using it in X mode? < 1235262324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtk emacs :P < 1235262327 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then change the emacs font < 1235262330 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somewhere < 1235262334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's just dpi problems < 1235263070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MandelbrotOrbitInfimum.png omg ew ugly < 1235263243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, torrent still broken < 1235263245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will try again later < 1235263253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have the file < 1235263256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I can dcc it < 1235263259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1235263265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well let me check if dcc is setup < 1235263338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, try to dcc it now. hopefully it will work < 1235263343 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more proof that the mandelbrot set is really a Great Old One... < 1235263355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MandelbrotOrbitInfimum.png omg ew ugly <-- nice < 1235263366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uglyyyyyyyy < 1235263367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes me want to vomit < 1235263375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file:///media/Macintosh HD/Users/ehird/Saved/2009-02/opengenera/opengenera2.tar.bz2 < 1235263377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1235263378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fail. < 1235263382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well I would have used another colour scheme < 1235263397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blue instead of pink < 1235263401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but apart from that: nice < 1235263414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the belly button X_X < 1235263419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yo I dcc'd < 1235263432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235263435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1235263441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very yes < 1235263445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agh, I guess firewall < 1235263446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION filebins it
< 1235263450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, maybe my bnc fails? < 1235263454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or your bnc < 1235263459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :router < 1235263460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1235263463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's shit < 1235263473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :want a linksys pronto... < 1235263513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<*status> DCC Xfer Bounce (ehird): Timeout waiting for incoming connection [192.168.0.64:60386] < 1235263515 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes indeed < 1235263523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what that means < 1235263527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Must be less than 50 megabytes" < 1235263528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck. < 1235263534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, says who? < 1235263554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specs? < 1235263598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :filebin.ca < 1235263630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1235263637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits for url
< 1235263642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Must be less than 50 megabytes" < 1235263643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IC an't use it < 1235263647 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235263955 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh I see < 1235263960 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the ip you sent < 1235263964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the above dcc error < 1235263968 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1235263970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the issue < 1235263976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1235263976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1235263981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is my ip < 1235263985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, something is up anyway < 1235263994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and the torrent seems to work in rtorrent < 1235263999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because it uses ipv6 < 1235264007 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no need for your help it seems :) < 1235264009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks anyway < 1235264250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Boggle yer mind: < 1235264252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> def two(): return 1. + (two()/2.) < 1235264254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1235264255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> two = recur_default(two, 10, 0) < 1235264257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> two_ = use_rd(two) < 1235264258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> two_() < 1235264260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.9990234375 < 1235264261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python? < 1235264261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also oklopol's mind. < 1235264265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1235264269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finite infinite recursion! < 1235264281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehhah < 1235264283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe* < 1235264297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nice but what about about it < 1235264306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is that python 2.x? < 1235264311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION really likes python 3
< 1235264313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works in both < 1235264319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235264320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, can't you see? I wrote a function that calls itself infinite times < 1235264325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then approximated its value < 1235264334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what is recur_default()? < 1235264341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My secret sauce. < 1235264349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, where is it defined? < 1235264355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what does it look like < 1235264362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recur_default.py < 1235264366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1235264376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not making it public yet? < 1235264384 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me when you will make it public < 1235264388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a min < 1235264391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I'm going to be in 5 minutes < 1235264443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just need to iron out some creases < 1235264578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specifically, a nicer call interface < 1235264597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, does this work for any infinite series? < 1235264604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any infinite recursion < 1235264605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :defined in recursive form < 1235264608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1235264620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, using much black magic? < 1235264628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it basically just checks the callstack < 1235264630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see if you recurse < 1235264636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if we've already recursed N times, return the default value < 1235264638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1235264854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, pure python or using the C API? < 1235264863 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing this with C API sounds trivial < 1235264871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pure python < 1235264872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sys._getframe() < 1235264883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is even stuff in the C API to detect if you recursed < 1235264917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm how do you insert yourself in the call < 1235264918 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1235264933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean you need to replace the two() call with some custom routine < 1235264942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :decorators < 1235264943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that checks the recursion < 1235264943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> [two(limit=i) for i in range(0,10)] < 1235264945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1.0, 1.5, 1.75, 1.875, 1.9375, 1.96875, 1.984375, 1.9921875,1.99609375, 1.998046875] < 1235264951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I see < 1235264964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the code + example: http://pastie.org/396402 < 1235264965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235264968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@recur_default should be @recur_default < 1235264990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kwargs? < 1235264992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, two() reaches 2.0 on my system at 53 < 1235264994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that name mean < 1235264995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: like foo=bar < 1235264997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :keyword arguments < 1235265000 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235265001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1235265011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**kwargs? < 1235265017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like C to me ;P < 1235265058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm ok < 1235265065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to read that when less sleepy < 1235265080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1235265085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :change > new_func.limit to >= new_func.limit < 1235265088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye -> < 1235265094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, night too < 1235267239 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235268530 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :B;eh < 1235268532 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note from Dr. ██████████: I believe I know where all our bandwidth is going at night. Agent ████'s computer privileges should be limited until he either finds a girlfriend or learns some self control." < 1235268553 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're describing material on floppy disks of infinite capacity < 1235268561 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are they talking about bandwidth? < 1235268566 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-335 < 1235269417 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, pizza-time, if they are still open at 02:22 am < 1235269529 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION recalls this place that used to be open until 4 am in weekends. don't know if they still are.
< 1235270154 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent < 1235270177 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the instant computation machine that you have to keep plugged in for as long as the computation would take < 1235270187 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a floppy disk of infinite capacity < 1235270217 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the category of a seemingly small flaw making the thing useless < 1235270243 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--speed. < 1235270337 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm but if it could be pre-initialized it could at least be used to solve NP-complete problems < 1235270456 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess you would need the instant computation machine for that, though < 1235271025 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1235271984 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1235273084 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, by "instant computation machine", are you talking about my idea, or some SCP, or somethign else? < 1235273253 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask me, as comex < 1235273255 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ask < 1235273269 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION spanks his keyboard
< 1235273526 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was your and ehird's < 1235273583 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that time travel thing? < 1235274014 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION loves http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/incident-239-b-clef-kondraki and would love it more if he was looking into the individual SCPs, probably
< 1235274435 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION seriously lols at http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/supplemental-report-239-b-192
< 1235276222 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, after that distraction, really going for pizza < 1235276844 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/experiment-log-447-a < 1235280610 0 :Blasterfire!n=Jake@h-67-101-80-186.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235281880 0 :Blasterfire!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1235282938 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/GregorRichards/catastrophile2.png < 1235283582 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get it < 1235283627 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR has boners for dead babies < 1235283714 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Context is for the weak. < 1235283734 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that the truck is disturbing all by itself
< 1235283782 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that catastrophile1.png is nonexistent < 1235283802 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's because it's catastrophile.png < 1235283808 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235283830 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why then does the error message say "moved or deleted". hmph. < 1235283870 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/GregorRichards/catastrophile.png < 1235283872 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E_WORKSFORME < 1235283887 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with 1, duh < 1235283904 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it never existed, that is. < 1235283914 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohhh, I see :P < 1235283917 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* oerjan notes that the truck is disturbing all by itself < 1235283918 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, that scp-wiki is awesome < 1235283920 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for that X-D < 1235283923 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enjoyed that truck. < 1235283939 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i have no idea what that thing on the stairs is < 1235284000 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which might explain why you didn't link it first. unless you have. < 1235284038 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I linked catastrophile2.png first because I thought it was funnier :P < 1235284041 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are body parts < 1235284068 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic. maybe. < 1235285191 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://spamusement.com/forums/images/avatars/173094260849a0f4a14b025.gif < 1235285193 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1235285593 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235286026 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client Excited" < 1235286191 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1235286974 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-360 :) < 1235289599 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1235289600 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1235291334 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: is it okay i was desperately waiting for that gif truck to crash? < 1235291410 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it crashes in the other < 1235291771 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1235292218 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokoko < 1235292220 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokoko < 1235292225 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokoko < 1235292235 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you like numbers? < 1235292277 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1235292400 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1235292423 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm being mauled. < 1235292434 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by a wolf < 1235292459 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cute < 1235292475 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not as cute as your precious numbers huh < 1235292523 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly cuter! < 1235293015 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pussy blot icer < 1235295979 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-48.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1235297567 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1235297698 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235301540 0 :Mony!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-20-225.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1235302034 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235305015 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1235305703 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235305715 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1235309066 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.110 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235309850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hi < 1235309860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw how do you write hexdecimal integers in scheme? < 1235309865 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1235309876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235309888 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in or out? < 1235309931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, as in (define foo 0x123) < 1235309941 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that doesn't do what I wanted < 1235309943 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mean having hex in the code, there's a whole well-written section about the numbers in r5rs. < 1235309955 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's not like that < 1235309962 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... is it 16#123, or have I got the wrong language there? < 1235309962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k will look < 1235309966 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try 123h, 123x, x123, h123 < 1235309969 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that sounds erlang < 1235309972 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, maybe < 1235309989 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, which means it may be prolog too I gueszs < 1235309991 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess* < 1235309998 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah cold fnigers < 1235310000 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1235310001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fingers* < 1235310006 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall b was used for binary, but i haven't really used numbers in scheme. < 1235310057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, h prefix/suffix both says unbound variables < 1235310061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable* < 1235310063 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-127.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1235310079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does b and x < 1235310110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in both mzscheme and guile < 1235310202 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1235310209 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i've probably imagined it all. < 1235310278 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah #x < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(string->number "100" 16) < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's for output < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :input < 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry misread < 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that works < 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but #x123 < 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# is used for all the stuff you can specify about a number < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, so what about other bases? like base 14? < 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't do that in a literal < 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can't do floating point in anything but decimal in scheme either iirc < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> #h101 < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readline::81: read: expected `a' or `x' after #h < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what that is then
< 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah stuff that isn't legal scheme often errors out < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, duh yes < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what is #ha supposed to me < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be* < 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#h is not specified by the standard < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzscheme extension then < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> #hx101 < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :101 < 1235310566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1235310566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol :D < 1235310589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, too lazy to search docs for what it does < 1235310670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235310670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grammar fail < 1235310670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what what does? < 1235310670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, too lazy to search mzscheme docs for what #hx/#ha means < 1235310670 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you care? < 1235310828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well now I care < 1235310850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#hx starts a Honu expression; see Honu Parsing < 1235310850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#hash starts a hash table; see Reading Hash Tables < 1235310851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1235310881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth < 1235310884 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Honu is a family of languages built on top of Scheme. Honu syntax resembles Java." < 1235311130 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235311265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, which is the correct way to express "foo mmap()s blah blah" should one use "mmap()s" or "mmaps()"? Or maybe just "mmaps"? < 1235311365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say mmap()s < 1235311371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1235311375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1235311383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, would it be "abort()'d" too? < 1235311391 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably not correct English, but amongst programmers the habit is to write anything that has to be written literally literally < 1235311394 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, abort()ed < 1235311401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also if you wish to refer to man page section, would you use: mmap(2)s ? < 1235311416 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really think pluralising a man page makes sense < 1235311429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm it is a verb isn't it? < 1235311431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i always separate suffices with "'" < 1235311433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case < 1235311452 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless they are actual grammatical suffices < 1235311453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someprogram mmap(2)s blah blah < 1235311458 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ok < 1235311473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1235311680 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someprogram cu me zoi py. mmap(2) py. < 1235311697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, eh.. Finnish? < 1235311707 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not at all < 1235311709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err spelling < 1235311728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway mmap() makes no sense in python, and you mentioned py twice on that line < 1235311805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't mean python < 1235312046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1235312417 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1235312423 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized something < 1235312443 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've probably been feeling sick all weekend *because i'm sick* :D < 1235312463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that a :D? < 1235312485 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i didn't realize it. < 1235312567 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean think about it < 1235312605 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel like shit, and never for a minute stop to think why, i just quickly adapt myself to the situation and start doing things a bit differently, being under a blancket 24/7 etc < 1235312611 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i don't actually realize anything is wrong. < 1235312614 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm like a cavemen. < 1235312615 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*man < 1235312649 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway should probably go to the shop, coke probably helps for flues. < 1235312836 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the actual sickness isn't a ":D" or a ":(", because it's not bad enough anyway to actually hinder my studyings. i just find it funny how well i can ignore everything around me, including my body. < 1235312906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also that "including my body" thing i said that way just so you could ask whether i actually don't consider my body a part of myself; i'm not sure why i assumed you would) < 1235312931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your body may be a part of you the person < 1235312937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nothing to do with oklopol the nick, though < 1235312944 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only talk to your thoughts over IRC < 1235312949 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the things that surround them < 1235312963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you just talk to my fingers tho. < 1235312971 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like i actually actively control thhem < 1235312972 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*them < 1235312978 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just let them live on the kb < 1235312981 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume your fingers aren't intelligent enough to make sense without your brain sending them information somehow < 1235313014 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i do admit what i type does go through my brain, but i honestly cannot say which way the information goes. < 1235313050 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean through introspection, i do know enough anatomy to assume it's brain->hands. but you never know < 1235313077 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(err through introspection was part of the earlier sentence, then a full stop before "i do know...") < 1235313088 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nm i should probably do that shoppery) < 1235313145 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1235313277 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235314870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hihi < 1235314912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:38:51 oklopol, as in (define foo 0x123) < 1235314914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#x < 1235314916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#x123 < 1235314921 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i told him < 1235314926 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hie hird < 1235314939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yeah I should have told him to read r5rs < 1235314943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only like 30 pages < 1235314947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hi < 1235314954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :overall linux summary: better than before, but still not impressed. < 1235314986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, don't use guile < 1235314987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get it working? < 1235314988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not scheme < 1235314991 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, i'm sick, this is so weird < 1235314992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, I'm talking via it now < 1235315005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you get your wireless mouse/keyboard working? < 1235315038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, although it's stupid and forgets it on every bootup so I have to manually connect with a USB keyboard. < 1235315071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, strange < 1235315084 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think your beliefs about Linux are about right, decent but not actually good, and getting better all the time < 1235315086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there no config file or such? < 1235315104 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's certainly good enough for me to use as the basis of my primary OS, I think your standards are higher than mine though < 1235315120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's english-decent but not ehird-decent, I have a weird tounge. < 1235315121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, btw I never had issues like those ehird had under linux. What I have had issues with is ATI and way way back a winmodem < 1235315123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, it's utterly ignored < 1235315132 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, heh < 1235315148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: font rendering sucks badly < 1235315162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the font rendering, actually < 1235315167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, however I still don't see why anything but kernel upgrade would need reboot < 1235315168 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we're probably looking for different things in it < 1235315177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like quicktime, is it in kernel or what? < 1235315177 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: turning off your laptop to take it home? < 1235315193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's by far the most common reason I reboot mine < 1235315195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: like 99% of apps, including the window manager etc, heavily use quicktime < 1235315198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was talking about upgrades, of course there could be reasons like you need to move or such < 1235315199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you hvae to restart them all anyway < 1235315204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or hardware upgrade < 1235315216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's either too weedy, or so bulky you can see the oddly coloured subpixels < 1235315231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now I have subpixel rendering off, and hinting=slight < 1235315237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is barable < 1235315240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bear-able < 1235315250 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ah, does your screen resolution match your screen's actual resolution? < 1235315264 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using subpixel over here, and can't see the oddly coloured pixels < 1235315265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 99.999% of the apps on my system are dynamically linked to glibc, exceptions are probably only: busybox (static), valgrind (own libc) and ldconfig (static) < 1235315267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, don't ask trivial things like that < 1235315270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it does < 1235315273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so you have high hinting < 1235315274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1235315275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet I upgraded glibc from 2.6 to 2.8 with KDE running < 1235315278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't rebooted yet < 1235315281 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION checks
< 1235315292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :works fine, had to rebuild valgrind and gdb but that was it < 1235315293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah generally when you upgrade the intention is to USE THE UPGRADED THING < 1235315298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe wacky linux people don't understand that notion < 1235315304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes I do use it for like 50% of the apps by now < 1235315313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like half of the KDE apps < 1235315314 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subpixel with full hinting < 1235315322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: and OS X reboots fast enough that you could use 100% of them in about 15 seconds < 1235315331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: go to en.wikipedia.org < 1235315334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the text horribly thin? < 1235315337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and klunked together < 1235315339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my problem < 1235315339 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: using which browser? < 1235315341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and which font? < 1235315350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Konqueror, and the default < 1235315360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, does Konversation show as kde3 for you? < 1235315371 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, there isn't a kde4 version yet < 1235315372 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm that depends, I have seen macs that take 2 minutes from sleep mode, though it was one that was set up to sync against some server at work. < 1235315377 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not surprising they shipped the kde3 version < 1235315389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "Example involving nothing to do with the actual reboot, this means the reboot is slow" < 1235315391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :convincing < 1235315400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, reboot takes like 10 minutes on it < 1235315413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, you can make a system take ages to run if you do stupid shit that takes time! < 1235315417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: actually, around 1 minute to login screen, then 9 minutes after you hit login < 1235315419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've convinced me. os x sucks < 1235315423 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you're right, konqueror seems to screw up the kerning on wikipedia main page < 1235315424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1235315429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't say OS X sucks < 1235315430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: all subsequent pages, too < 1235315430 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox manages it fine, though < 1235315442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me try with Arora < 1235315442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what I'm saying is that it depends on what you are doing. < 1235315449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect it's something to do with different defaults, rather than an intrinsic difference between the browsers < 1235315458 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or possibly GTK vs. Qt, but I think that's less likely < 1235315472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: your example is at best far out enough to be completely irrelevant; at worst having no relation whatsoever to the situation < 1235315476 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway I have a linux computer that boots in 16 seconds from you press the button, a Pentium 3 with 512 MB RAM < 1235315480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, I lost like 10 options from system settings < 1235315484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did that happen < 1235315486 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean lost? < 1235315491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're not there in the oerview < 1235315493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may be imagining things < 1235315503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what font dpi are you using? < 1235315505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, screenshot? < 1235315510 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of what? < 1235315513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the text rendering < 1235315520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I have seen that on mac actually.. iirc bluetooth was suddenly gone from mouse settings... < 1235315522 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which set of rendering? < 1235315525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back on Gnome atm, btw < 1235315530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1235315531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, reboot fixed it < 1235315535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gnome renders fonts differently. < 1235315543 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I've set my default font to Sans 10 < 1235315548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, gnome and kde use separate setting panels yes < 1235315552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1235315553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235315554 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most of the apps here are using that < 1235315555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is not what I said < 1235315556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1235315558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was highly irrelevant < 1235315562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1235315562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1235315571 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's me who's using Gnome < 1235315572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I misunderstood you < 1235315574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235315587 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so unless ehird's remote-desktoped into my computer, then he wouldn't care what's in my settings panel, probably < 1235315595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wouldn't be able to see it in any case without a screenshot < 1235315597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you see some ambiguity in what I'm saying and nobody else seems to, you porbably read it wrong < 1235315601 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and certainly wouldn't think it was his < 1235315602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*probably < 1235315612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'm actually behind you. < 1235315626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you aren't < 1235315635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm also invisible < 1235315642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no sane way you could have got through the Door < 1235315648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sane < 1235315653 0 :Dewio!n=dewi@124-171-169-186.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1235315918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, did you manage to get the fonts to look good? < 1235315922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Not yet. < 1235315925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1235315930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was going to complain about something else. Let me think what it was... < 1235315942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(BTW, a screenshot of the font rendering would be appreciated, I'm thinking I've missed some combination of settings) < 1235315949 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, fonts are a legitimate complaint for someone who cares as much about fonts as you do < 1235315953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, for me wikipedia main page doesn't look bad in konq (KDE 3.5.9) < 1235315955 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not sure what to screenshot < 1235315963 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: does it mess up the kerning? < 1235315974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: an application? system prefs? < 1235315982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not really, it uses Bitstream Verra Sans though < 1235315990 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: in Gnome the system prefs are just choosing font and size < 1235315997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gnome, would you expect it to have settings? < 1235316001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, there's an antialiasing setting too < 1235316006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I meant KDE system preferences, anyway < 1235316007 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes < 1235316015 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for KDE settings, I'd have to boot into KDE and I mustn't here < 1235316027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, you just have to run the settings app < 1235316029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1235316032 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a strange bug with volume which means it blares out the logon sound at full volume even when the speakers are set to low volume or muting < 1235316047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, huh, I never seen that < 1235316051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you have to boot into KDE? < 1235316055 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes < 1235316065 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the KDE system settings window messes up fonts for me < 1235316066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, idea: turn off the login sound in KDE settings < 1235316069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should be possible < 1235316077 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: btw, if you're interested, the SVN version of Konversation uses Qt4 (you mentioned something about it a few minutes ago) < 1235316079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it is on KDE 3.x < 1235316086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeholdMyGlory: is it semi -stable? < 1235316089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"system notifications" I think < 1235316115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: apeparance->fonts, by the way, < 1235316122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, found it < 1235316126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1235316132 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yup, I'm using it right now, haven't found any problem except for a minor graphical bug that you probably wont even encounter < 1235316158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw xchat is way better than xchat aqua I heard < 1235316158 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeholdMyGlory: have you reported it? < 1235316170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it is, but it still sucks < 1235316191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what about conspire then? It is a fork of xchat, I heard it was way better < 1235316209 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't tried it myself though < 1235316219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaagh!! Stop trying to get me to use xchat! wtf man! < 1235316231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1235316238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, should I try to get you to use ERC instead ;P < 1235316240 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, I haven't. maybe I should? but then again, the porting is in progress, they probably just haven't gotten there yet < 1235316254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you just authorized your own death, fyi < 1235316261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1235316270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: generally, bug reports aren't appreciated for pre-pre-pre-alpha code < 1235316273 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BeholdMyGlory: I like to report bugs, or at least check if it's already known < 1235316276 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ah, ok < 1235316278 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you sure? < 1235316279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1235316285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen several projects explicitly state that < 1235316293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since they almost certainly know about the issue already < 1235316301 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, they should put it in the tracker then < 1235316302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and are busy with other things < 1235316320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly when I'm programming I appreciate bug reports even in pre-alphas < 1235316341 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that actually varies. for example, yesterday a valgrind developer wanted me to try svn version instead of last release and also report any bugs I found in the experimental ptrcheck tool in it. < 1235316362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while it did fix one of the bugs I had in the release I found (and reported) several other ones :) < 1235316364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: uploading a screenshot of awful text rendering on wikipedia with subpixel+full hinting < 1235316373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the window decoration text looks nice though < 1235316375 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I've seen it too < 1235316378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :filebin hates arora < 1235316383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you said firefox gets it fine < 1235316393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not using konqueror < 1235316416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, did you build freetype with BCI yet? < 1235316426 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Network is unreachable < 1235316428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to build my own freetype < 1235316442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is the thing that will help < 1235316451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your screenshot with it was awful. < 1235316459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :binary distros don't enable the BCI because Apple has a patent on it in US < 1235316464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you've said < 1235316465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is because my fonts sucks < 1235316474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have dejavu too < 1235316497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you could copy some from OS X and change the settings to use them < 1235316516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to gague how well linux is doing, not how well linux is doing if I patch it to make it os x :p < 1235316518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can Linux use OS X fonts? < 1235316523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you convert them. < 1235316528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you need to convert them first < 1235316531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they look ugly though < 1235316542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not if you use the BCI :P < 1235316558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, I htink I struck gold with some settings < 1235316559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting, it seems they just ported D to the Mac < 1235316564 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is just that dejavu and such are optimised for non-BCI < 1235316566 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: which settings are those? < 1235316566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use subpixel rendering = RGB < 1235316568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hinting style = slight < 1235316578 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh subpixel < 1235316586 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why don't you like subpixel? < 1235316587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you AnMaster, I didn't ask for your opinion < 1235316592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: D already works on os x, with gdc, but gdc is unmaintained and crap < 1235316593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, coloured edges of fonts < 1235316595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dmd now works on it, too < 1235316599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: err, you're meant to use a tft. < 1235316601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which specifically hides those. < 1235316610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the whole point of subpixel rendering < 1235316611 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, subpixel only makes sense on TFTs < 1235316613 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1235316621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I have a TFT. < 1235316624 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for the subpixel choices, only one of them is ever correct < 1235316626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have a crap tft. < 1235316631 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you pick the wrong one, you'll see coloured edges < 1235316632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or configured subpixel rendering badly. < 1235316686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :logout login time ---> < 1235316754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's one idiot developing KDE that ruins the whole thing < 1235316758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it prompts you if you want to move something to the trash. < 1235316761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not kidding. < 1235316785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I tried all the subpixel style options < 1235316791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all give coloured edges < 1235316801 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what screen res are you using? < 1235316818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either your tft screen is crap, or you're using a crap subpixel implementation, or you had the wrong hinting settings or whatever < 1235316819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1400x1050, as for DPI I think it is 98 DPI or such < 1235316822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember exactly < 1235316826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: so does Windows, about that move-to-trash prompt < 1235316831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with good subpixel rendering it is impossible to see the colouring without zooming in < 1235316842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's stupid! the whole point of a trash is to be able to undo deletes! < 1235316843 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's at least one KDEer who goes around copying Windows' bad ideas as well as their good ones < 1235316864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what works well is: antialias, full hinting, no subpixel, exclude 0-7 pt < 1235316872 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and with 1400x1050, as long as your screen res matches the screen's actual res, no way a normal human should be able to see the color fringes if you use the right pixel order < 1235316884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: or, the implementation is crap < 1235316888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it is 20" btw < 1235316889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, it's placebo like so many things < 1235316891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1235316905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he tried it thinking he wouldn't like it, lo and behold... < 1235316931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION installs ms core fonts
< 1235316952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually thinking about uninstalling those, because openoffice keeps trying to use them by default < 1235316954 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't like them < 1235316970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like them but dejavu sans is very ugly unless planned for < 1235316974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the web is killing my eyes < 1235316984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, it's Qt that messes up kerning, I think < 1235316988 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there are lots of other fonts in the list < 1235316990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as other browsers are doing it too < 1235317005 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Qt messing up kerning is consistent with my obligations, although I haven't seen enough to prove it < 1235317008 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*observations < 1235317084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that was a crazy typo.. < 1235317092 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235317116 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what about kerning in firefox? < 1235317118 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: too much nomic < 1235317128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really feel like installing firefox, but it'd probaly be fine. < 1235317137 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :firefox is gtk-based on Linux < 1235317151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes and? < 1235317162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use Gimp in KDE. Gimp is GTK based < 1235317171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :joy, more irrelevance... < 1235317185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found the comment that firefox is GTK based quite irrelevant too < 1235317194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, the theory is that it's Qt that's messing up kerning < 1235317195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, it really wasn't < 1235317207 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and by implication, gtk apps won't < 1235317209 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they don't use qt < 1235317215 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes exactly, that is why I suggest you try something else. Also kerning isn't messed up in konq here < 1235317217 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like athena widget apps or SDL apps won't < 1235317219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe QT 3 is better? < 1235317223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graaaaaaaaah < 1235317230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster always has to inject "USE THIS OTHER APPLICATION" < 1235317234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"USE THIS VERSION THAT I PREFER" < 1235317242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I use a different font, or I happen to use a freetype with BCI < 1235317245 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well the whole point of this exercise was to evaluate how ready KDE 4.2 was for people like ehird to use as a main OS < 1235317251 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah I see < 1235317255 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the point you're probably missing < 1235317264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, indeed that changes the whole thing < 1235317269 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried it for a while and went back to Gnome < 1235317278 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's usable for me as a main OS, but Gnome is more usable < 1235317281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION carefully opens tiny hole in body to let out craziness to avoid explosion
< 1235317298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: don't make me download an ubuntu cd... :P < 1235317316 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: meh, it hasn't changed much recently < 1235317325 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's mostly been bugfixing and stealing good ideas from Mac OS X < 1235317340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I can't stand gnome, but I can't stand kde 4.x either, and yes I tried both, though not 4.2, but from what I seen in screenshots and release notes it is still way behind kde 3 < 1235317343 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you know that Windows 7 has what's effectively the Dock, now, except probably implemented worse and with a different name? < 1235317346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1235317350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one day they'll all just license out os x from apple :P < 1235317415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :point is that the BCI thing is quite similar to the way some binary distros (used to?) disable mp3 support in the included mediaplayer, because of patents < 1235317425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if that is still the case < 1235317449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well in Ubuntu you have to download it separately IIRC < 1235317451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I should take advantage of my freedom while I have it. Maybe I'll try some window manager. < 1235317457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, heh < 1235317475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, xmonad? xnomad? < 1235317487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xnomad is a ninja. it kills windows you don't need. < 1235317488 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was about to mention xmonad too < 1235317495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's called the bsc. bullshit collector. < 1235317496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that ehird made me install it < 1235317502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've tried xmonad, guess I'll try it again < 1235317503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hehe < 1235317512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=634447 < 1235317513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: HA! < 1235317517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BCI IS enabled in ubuntu. < 1235317517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really suit the way I use windows, though < 1235317520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since at least dec 2007. < 1235317544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, last I heard it wasn't, but ok... So maybe try disabling it? < 1235317548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from another thread, since at least october 2006 < 1235317550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: how? < 1235317559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, compile time option for freetype < 1235317573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: this is a binary distro, messing with compile time options isn't what people normally do on those < 1235317573 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235317574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1235317584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although Ubuntu handles source packages fine, people rarely use them < 1235317590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, iirc even debian has this thing called "source packages" yes < 1235317606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XMONAD TYME -> < 1235317613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I have to install tons of crap first. < 1235317616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like ghc. < 1235317619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(xmonad depends on ghc.) < 1235317620 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what do you mean "even debian" < 1235317631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he sees debian as a lowest common denominator. < 1235317635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you think Debian makes the binary packages in the first place? < 1235317641 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no that is slackware < 1235317642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because, umm, I don't know, it's not source based? < 1235317643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1235317656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes of course, that was my point < 1235317657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1235317658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you have some fucked up distro ladder... < 1235317673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think the biggest ubuntu fan would say slackware is the lowest distro < 1235317679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not a ladder, stairway to gentoo < 1235317692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kind of like the stairway to heaven? I'm happy being at the bottom on both. < 1235317693 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please, I'm physically laughing out loud now < 1235317701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it was a horrible pun yes < 1235317706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're way too amusable ;p < 1235317708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*:p < 1235317720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, just confused < 1235317724 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I missed the pun, I think < 1235317729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it was a pun < 1235317734 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I still can spot it < 1235317736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he s/heaven/gentoo/ and called it a pun < 1235317736 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can't < 1235317749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well if it wasn't a pun, then what was it < 1235317758 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what we're asking you? < 1235317761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it wasn't actually anything < 1235317765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't figure out what you were doing there at al < 1235317766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from a feeble attempt at humour < 1235317766 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*all < 1235317779 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is why I'm so amused < 1235317784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, intentionally making no sense < 1235317791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I had that excuse < 1235317806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm actually really funny, you can tell because i'm not! < 1235317815 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs at ehird
< 1235317825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll take that as a good thing < 1235317835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs at the act of laughing
< 1235318390 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ehird is pretty ridiculous < 1235318407 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pizza is pretty good < 1235318448 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I thought you were a noodle fan/ < 1235318497 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not all that picky. < 1235318504 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like all that tastes incredibly good. < 1235318635 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235318920 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subject: SPAM: ATM Machine ownership is unique. Try it. < 1235318931 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spam emails just get stranger and stranger... < 1235319340 0 :dhjkd!i=5b6944a2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ba7749fa40870051 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235319351 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) other wms can't seem to read my keypresses < 1235319357 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) konversation crashes at startup < 1235319361 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3) my fan is whirring quite a lot < 1235319370 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this far <-- --> from jumping ship back to os x. < 1235319400 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind you jumping ship < 1235319410 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Dolphin is flashing randomly when I open it < 1235319427 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my fan seems to be whirring more and more < 1235319429 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's probably best for everyone to choose for themselves what OS is best for them, and it differs for different people < 1235319443 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right now I'm concerned at wtf this is doing to my fan. < 1235319542 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you think plan9 will work with a usb keyboard / mouse yet? < 1235319548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows? < 1235319554 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god. < 1235319559 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and me < 1235319561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :failing everything, connect up a serial cable and toggle the keypresses in yourself < 1235319566 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mony: what is the answer < 1235319570 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1235319577 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: good luck finding a serial cable port on this mac < 1235319599 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... this laptop probably doesn't have one either < 1235319608 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pity, serial's by far the best simple connection for implementing by hand < 1235319628 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there's not even a ps/2 port in here < 1235319629 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're messing around with electronics, designing something serial-controlled's easier than the alternatives < 1235319644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my laptop has hardly any ports, though < 1235319656 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps/2, VGA, USB, modem, and Ethernet < 1235319659 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm ... can grub boot from a cd without it being in the menu? < 1235319664 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and 1294 < 1235319675 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dhjkd: probably, it has loads of options < 1235319679 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like messing with them though < 1235319683 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beh < 1235320016 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-2.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1235320197 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O HAI GUYS < 1235320202 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI! < 1235320211 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am downloadering plan 9 < 1235320577 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main problem with plan 9 is that everyone who uses it is a jerk. < 1235320611 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dhjkd: you're just going to have to speed up your implementation of Plan10 < 1235320617 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verily. < 1235320629 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hopefully it'll be so amazing that uriel dies of shock. < 1235320674 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who's uriel? < 1235320698 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most obnoxious plan 9 user ever. < 1235320714 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :continually rants about how other systems are imorral and "disgusting" < 1235320731 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maintains a site where he whines about everything from every market that isn't free to the abhorrent act of having kids < 1235320758 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impossible to ignore to boot < 1235320763 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235320782 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, why can't you ignore him? < 1235320819 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's too ridiculously loud. < 1235320846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... < 1235320854 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what forum is he talking to you? < 1235320877 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's all over the place. reddit, irc, ... < 1235320898 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't ignore him on irc: he's so loud that all conversation ends revolving around him < 1235320899 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235320905 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and reddit has no killfiles. < 1235320960 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k3b is making my disk drive perform a worrying whirr. < 1235321042 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plan9 time, maybe -> < 1235321099 0 :dhjkd!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1235321563 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-193-40-216.zone7.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1235322246 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1235322299 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-3-235.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1235322406 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : gah cold fnigers < 1235322414 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think we can believe in that. < 1235322440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, IWC < 1235322442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs
< 1235322518 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Resultater 1 - 10 av ca. 92 900 000 for fniger." < 1235322619 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For fniger? Where's MY 92 900 000?! < 1235322628 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Resultater 1 - 10 av ca. 108 000 000 for finger." < 1235322632 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf? < 1235322664 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently people really _do_ spell that bad :D < 1235322698 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a resultater something that resultates? < 1235322777 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really. < 1235322778 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that would clearly be "resultator" < 1235322787 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :resultat = en:result < 1235322810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(noun) < 1235322825 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :en:result (v) = no:resultere < 1235322845 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Result isn't a verb :P < 1235322851 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1235322865 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes it is ;P < 1235322868 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That results in failure < 1235322878 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you *were* serious < 1235322882 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My attempt to classify the word "result" resulted in an improper classification. < 1235322883 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, was worried there for a sec < 1235322899 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me too < 1235322922 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do norwegian verbs really end in "ere", like Latin verbs often do? < 1235322931 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, my mouth was watering because the healthy human baby truck was driving by. < 1235322935 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wasn't thinking straight. < 1235322939 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, only those stolen from latin. < 1235322961 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's -ere even if latin has -[aei]re < 1235322966 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: don't worry we all think homosexually every now and then. < 1235322983 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: A) That would be pedastry, B) I'm thinking more about cannibalism. < 1235322985 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially when there's babies involved < 1235322988 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :similar to german < 1235323015 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: why would it be pedastry? < 1235323034 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION confesses that he considered making yesterday's quit message "I'll have a large one with extra fries"
< 1235323044 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I didn't put together what you were responding to X-P < 1235323047 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was the context? < 1235323048 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabblecopter :P
< 1235323053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: are you high or something? < 1235323059 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just tired :P < 1235323062 0 :mib_zv88py!i=5b6944a2@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-bedcacbbb78323e1 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235323071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi person who is probably ehird < 1235323075 0 :mib_zv88py!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck. computers. < 1235323081 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mib_zv88py: Hawt. < 1235323082 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plan8? < 1235323087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*9? < 1235323100 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*10? < 1235323106 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i suggest sleeping, your status in my eyes is changing rapidly! < 1235323116 0 :mib_zv88py!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't get plan9 to recognize my keyboard, even if I use a usb one and boot through grub, which SHOULD be legacy-bios-emulating thus exposing it as a ps2 < 1235323119 0 :mib_zv88py!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no < 1235323129 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I choose to go eat instead :P < 1235323143 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from GregorR the powernerd to GregorR the village idiot < 1235323189 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, a friend of mine and I created card chess. < 1235323193 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Subject change!) < 1235323194 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235323198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird_ < 1235323200 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like chesskers? < 1235323200 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: erm, that's not really reassuring... < 1235323200 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you and your crazy games < 1235323201 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghjkghjkhgkhgkhjkhjkhjkhjkghjhjkjhghjkhjkhjkhjkjhkghjghkhjkghjkhjkhggkhjkghjkhhkhkhgkhkhjkghjkky6y6y6y66666y6y6y6y6yy66yy575766 www5546 w456w546w546w546w546546 56 56 56 56 5 5 55 5 < 1235323209 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/wiki/?title=Card+Chess < 1235323211 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: I don't understand < 1235323219 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to do that all the time with my friends until i became totally isolated from them when uni started. < 1235323221 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expressing my hate for computers. < 1235323256 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(invent games, that is) < 1235323260 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh dear :( < 1235323287 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna make a game solvable by computers only via ai or prime factoring < 1235323313 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: you use computers a lot for someone who hates them as much as you do < 1235323321 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to admit to actually liking computers < 1235323341 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they have potential < 1235323348 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they're still rubbish. < 1235323377 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hate plan9 users < 1235323379 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Thu Apr 17 17:19:06 EDT 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: < 1235323380 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> rEFIT fails me. Back to waiting. < 1235323382 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, you could get a pc. < 1235323383 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- erik < 1235323385 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from google < 1235323386 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah they should buy a pc just to try out plan9 < 1235323389 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez < 1235323500 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually plan9 _is_ a plot by evil aliens to take over the earth. fortunately they underestimated the stupidity of earthling computer users. < 1235323504 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you have a pc that can run plan9? I'm going to come and steal it < 1235323518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: probably, and good luck < 1235323521 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just try in a VM/ < 1235323586 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's not he same. < 1235323589 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's slower < 1235323593 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1235323594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :half-speed < 1235323599 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worse < 1235323606 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this is plan9 we're talking about, and modern hardware we're talking about < 1235323629 0 :mib_zv88py!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1235323643 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.modmyi.com/forums/chit-chat/19007-ron-paul-plan9-contest-real.html < 1235323647 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ron Paul pervades everything < 1235323652 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I've tried it before. < 1235323682 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: don't worry, just almost totally. < 1235323729 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: whew < 1235323741 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have thi simac and an old Power Macintosh that runs os 8/9, but no pc. I am so stupid. :P < 1235323873 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i have even made an acquaintance at uni, this dude started talking to me who was on half the courses i was on (which was pretty much all courses he was on naturally). < 1235323882 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM 9 PM < 1235324056 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-< < 1235324313 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so. < 1235324371 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hi oklopol. < 1235324387 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hye < 1235324409 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hay < 1235324468 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: your OS willen be written in oklotalk right? i seem to remember you saying oklotalk was only oklotalk if it had the oklotalk os < 1235324546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty much built on oklotalk, although the systems version is slightly safer :) < 1235324576 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wait, oklotalk is _safer_ at the os level? < 1235324579 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wat :D < 1235324582 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1235324624 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :safer than the version of oklotalk that's just oklotalk. the actual programming language oklotalk has a few "features" that don't really suit oses that well. < 1235324634 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1235324638 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07.11.07:14:10:11 would be cool to get aroused by CA < 1235324643 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235324645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it would! < 1235324656 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely out of context by the way < 1235324667 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need context for that < 1235324698 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:34:15 hm I just got a great idea for how to optimise brainfuck a bit better < 1235324700 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:34:29 probably someone already thought of it < 1235324701 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:35:22 my idea is, you can replace ++ and -- with set constant sometimes, for example if that cell have had a [-] on it just before and there have been no loops with unbalanced <> in it < 1235324706 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love anmaster's obvious "great ideas" < 1235324748 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: you misread that idea, probably < 1235324753 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more than the usual runlength stuff < 1235324755 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not by that much < 1235324756 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1235324767 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very obvious and most compilers worth their salt ever do it < 1235324802 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:52:27 this download is going slow < 1235324804 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:52:28 * tusho pokes it < 1235324805 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:53:15 yay < 1235324806 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most compilers are probably peppered with such tricks < 1235324807 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:53:19 thanks for finishing download < 1235324808 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:53:19 <3 < 1235324810 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:53:32 you are pretty awesome, finishing like that < 1235324811 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:57:04 hooray < 1235324813 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a momentary channeling of oklopol. < 1235324831 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-p < 1235324844 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats download
< 1235324889 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07.11.08:15:34:22 optimizations are rather cool, I mean unless they're arousing < 1235324893 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're weird oklopol. < 1235324915 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the oklons in his brain that do it. < 1235324922 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: why did you say that < 1235324925 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean it doesn't make any sense. < 1235325031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i wasn't trying to make sense < 1235325039 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1235325044 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you didn't actually say that i fabricated that quote. < 1235325058 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I am a scoundrel. < 1235325076 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't say that? < 1235325085 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1235325089 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1235325092 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i remember it. < 1235325094 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235325096 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1235325101 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I can tell it wasn't oklopol looking very carefully < 1235325105 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pats his mind
< 1235325109 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because oklopol writes "i" in lowercase < 1235325111 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235325115 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1235325116 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i was wondering about that < 1235325120 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he could have typo'ed. < 1235325166 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1235325172 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did i use "i" in 08 too? i can't say i remember. also i don't know which is year and which is day in the timestamps. < 1235325180 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was 2007 < 1235325184 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay right < 1235325185 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yy.mm.dd < 1235325187 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i remember even less. < 1235325188 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: stop that! < 1235325198 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1235325201 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats oerjan
< 1235325202 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats ais523 -----###
< 1235325204 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :---### < 1235325205 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah oerjan you can clearly see he isn't going to die. < 1235325211 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swat orgy < 1235325211 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to get a better weapon < 1235325248 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: "ehird_: ais523: i was wondering about that" <<< what this like "i in fact did *not* make that up", i mean... i remember it :D < 1235325254 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION the swat-protected firefly
< 1235325258 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ?? < 1235325261 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION revenges with a SWAT team
< 1235325262 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brb < 1235325267 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so guys, remember when I made up a language where you can put labels and gotos _anywhere_ < 1235325271 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1235325280 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: yes, and it ended up that you were just reinventing INTERCAL? < 1235325283 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm like, gonna try that again < 1235325290 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then again, i remember everything, even the made up stuff. < 1235325432 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah like the time you rode a unicorn < 1235325455 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that was a lot of fun < 1235325467 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rode a dragon once < 1235325470 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was only in NetHack < 1235325473 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still loads of fun thoug < 1235325475 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*though < 1235325491 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the command for riding a dragon in nethack? < 1235325496 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ride < 1235325501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you have to tame it and put a saddle on it first < 1235325601 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo() { < 1235325602 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : r = 0; < 1235325604 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (r == 3) { < 1235325606 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : bar: print("hi!"); < 1235325607 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : } < 1235325609 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : print(r); < 1235325610 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1235325611 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goto bar; < 1235325613 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this print: < 1235325614 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi! < 1235325616 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 < 1235325618 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1235325645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would've said both < 1235325646 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1235325647 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235325651 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah um < 1235325652 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's probably what you meant. < 1235325653 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what i meant < 1235325654 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1235325665 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is? oh i see. < 1235325665 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so r magiaclly becomes 3 when you goto into the if? < 1235325673 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah :D < 1235325690 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it satisfies the if's condition somehow < 1235325718 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. you can have declarative "satisfy this" expressions. < 1235325718 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eek < 1235325736 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something all languages should have btw < 1235325746 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, this is getting bad... < 1235325747 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its less goto-y though. < 1235325750 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's uncomputable < 1235325761 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1235325766 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares < 1235325770 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1235325774 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(i is not a solution to the Reimann hypothesis) {i++}; bar: print 5; < 1235325789 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you can't goto bar unless it's possible to reach it via ordinary program flow < 1235325794 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, definitely not < 1235325800 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can goto bar < 1235325806 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... ok? < 1235325809 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1235325811 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just infloop if you don't know the answer. all programs can refuse to halt, it's not like anyone's bitching about implementing tc languages anyway. < 1235325811 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not if it's inside a loop? < 1235325811 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was just ifs < 1235325813 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inside them < 1235325815 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1235325818 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of like not fixing them < 1235325872 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*and it's < 1235325882 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure that's better < 1235325883 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadiofj < 1235325896 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen < 1235325899 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... so. < 1235325940 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aberdeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen < 1235325941 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:55:26 There's only like 2 people in finland right? < 1235325942 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:55:29 Which one's your house? < 1235325944 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:55:37 yes, and 4 of them are on this channel < 1235325945 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg the start of the meme :D < 1235325947 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1235325949 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :truth statements < 1235325950 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1235325972 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meme's are true. that's why they are so scary. < 1235325993 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the are true belonging to meme? < 1235325995 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wut < 1235326022 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i saw potential. i fulfilled it. < 1235326035 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka i refused to fix my spelling. < 1235326045 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ehird_ < 1235326051 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you decide to read the logs? < 1235326085 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :today has been an interesting part of the great debate: are the logs invented or discovered? < 1235326102 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235326122 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously make a comic. < 1235326123 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i always do < 1235326167 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:16:13 optbot: oh :p. i think i've gotten ( lambdafnord body) to ( call/ cc...) ( generate-temporaries ( syntax( var) < 1235326176 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i would read it. < 1235326179 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting lambda fnord body to call/cc is painful, you need to generate temporaries syntax var < 1235326188 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except if is sucked, then i'd be like why did i make him draw this ridiculous crap and tell you you suck. < 1235326192 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i mean otherwise < 1235326197 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdafnord for dysfunctional programming < 1235326238 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait fungot should not merge fnords with neighboring words, should it < 1235326256 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone said lambdafnord < 1235326257 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1235326269 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they must have said it twice < 1235326282 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or otherwise fungot would have replaced it by fnord < 1235326287 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdafnord lambdafnord < 1235326309 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no < 1235326311 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm would that cause fungot to loop? < 1235326313 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was my terminal < 1235326318 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eliminated the space < 1235326321 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :between lambda and fnord < 1235326323 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1235326334 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only like two meems in #esoteric right? < 1235326337 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably got a fnord defect < 1235326346 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corun: way more < 1235326347 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like 5 < 1235326350 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corun: yes, me'em < 1235326358 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ore-some < 1235326366 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's the paradoxinns < 1235326372 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(paradoxical finns) < 1235326374 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i find oerjan way too funny today. < 1235326376 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's psox < 1235326388 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's "fungot wants to take over the world" < 1235326390 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: recall any others? < 1235326405 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats ehird_ -----###
< 1235326423 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: well, oerjan does < 1235326424 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there were a few more legimate memes on the topic < 1235326431 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes! < 1235326433 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swatting < 1235326435 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the letter game < 1235326438 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1235326446 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oko < 1235326448 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokoko < 1235326450 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"#esoteric is a gay sex channel and nothing else" < 1235326453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokoko < 1235326456 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any others? < 1235326457 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1235326480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1235326483 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1235326485 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here goes... < 1235326494 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not strictly an #esoteric meme, since it's shared with #vjn iirc < 1235326495 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokokoko < 1235326512 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :live feed from #vjn < 1235326512 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:11… +volimo: oooooooooooooo < 1235326515 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:11… +volimo: oooooooooo < 1235326518 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:11… +volimo: ooooooooooooooo < 1235326521 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:11… +volimo: ooooooo < 1235326523 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg vjn I wanna go bak there < 1235326524 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:11… +volimo: oooooooooooooooooo < 1235326527 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going back to vjn okay < 1235326527 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:11… +volimo: ooooo < 1235326530 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay. < 1235326530 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:11… +volimo: oooooo < 1235326533 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:11… +volimo: ooo < 1235326534 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are 4 minutes behind us? < 1235326536 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that was not very live < 1235326545 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it's a time microzone thing. < 1235326562 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1235326664 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1235326677 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye. < 1235326681 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1235326718 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm i mean afk, for now < 1235326768 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235326774 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1235327201 0 :Slereah!n=fff@ANantes-259-1-21-210.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1235327653 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-124-092.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235328167 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235328462 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1235328467 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am broken interweb? < 1235328800 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am not < 1235328975 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:41:30 but... it should return bottom then or something? < 1235328979 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:41:53 "to return bottom" means "to die horribly" < 1235328981 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:41:57 :P < 1235328982 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:42:00 okay < 1235328989 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"_now_ ->" < 1235329015 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a noob < 1235329063 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:57:14 source ^stdcons.bfm;source ^outs.bfm;string foo! "That's just wrong.\n";outs foo!end < 1235329065 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:57:39 oerjan: Stop with the Lambda. < 1235329071 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq is so hostile whenever functional programming is brought up. < 1235329118 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting... < 1235329183 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol> ackermann's growth is mean, it grows so fast i can't see the nice big numbers, because they're so big the program crashes < 1235329217 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that is a problem with them. < 1235329377 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:51:46 hm, i would advise you against that attitude here. one of our resident 14-year olds seems frightfully smart. < 1235329379 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was it < 1235329384 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was in 2007 < 1235329387 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihope? < 1235329398 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:52:18 yeah, i know :\ < 1235329400 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:52:52 that's exactly where i got that exact age :) < 1235329463 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ihop < 1235329464 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1235329491 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:52:22 maintaining old projects mostly, i mostly design my new language, oklotalk, i'm pretty obsessed about it < 1235329493 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:52:47 but i'll soon be failing at implementing it :) < 1235329494 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that my first convo? < 1235329494 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"soon" < 1235329496 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := "next year" < 1235329500 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wut, no < 1235329504 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er maybe < 1235329510 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean that resident 14... thing < 1235329518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is oklotalk coming along, anyway? < 1235329525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, okokokokokoko < 1235329526 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it died to J, then got revived < 1235329534 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because oklopol discovered jdidn't do arbitrary precision numerics < 1235329535 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's died to a lot of things < 1235329537 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and almost died. < 1235329544 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so put oklotalk back on the todo list < 1235329544 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and primarily it's died because university. < 1235329577 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although what ehird_ said is the official reason ofc < 1235329584 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or official story dunno < 1235329588 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_: why the underscore? < 1235329617 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bouncer < 1235329620 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err wait < 1235329622 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1235329625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno lol. < 1235329680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, 40-bit pointers < 1235329681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :discuss < 1235329695 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :39 is better < 1235329700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no 40 < 1235329705 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1235329708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 < 1235329716 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh alright. < 1235329746 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway oklotalk has not seen any actual development after last september. < 1235329760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2008 < 1235329761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1235329769 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's irrelevant in that no one has seen the stuff developed sofar anyway.. < 1235329819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:46:04 what is the point of regex? < 1235329820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:46:33 ... < 1235329821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:46:39 to... match patterns. < 1235329823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:47:06 ok... < 1235329864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:55:49 AND i dl'd cube 2 in french, but didn't want to do the work again, so i watched it 3 times hoping i'd just learn french < 1235329877 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1235329878 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds very oklopol < 1235329912 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so did you learn french by that? :P < 1235329957 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i learned je m'appelle claude! < 1235329970 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of course i didn't learn to type it) < 1235330002 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it starts with a chick telling her name, although i'm not actually sure claude is a girl's name, that may actually be from friends. < 1235330009 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but je m'appelle was there anyway < 1235330039 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway i didn't actually miss much, 2 has least story < 1235330065 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, three words from one movie, watch 30000 more french movies and you'll know all the words, I guess < 1235330076 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1235330252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a file to play raw audio files on lunix < 1235330254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tool < 1235330378 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :play plays just about anything < 1235330383 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as you know the format < 1235330540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@fhtagn:~/code/musak$ play -r 22 -t raw -8 -u musak.raw < 1235330541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fails < 1235330543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::, < 1235330544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1235330587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:04:38 i just realized Gamegirl has the word "girl" in it < 1235330589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:04:41 we're smart bots. < 1235330590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:04:45 * oklopol is a bot that penetrates < 1235330592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:04:49 ... < 1235330593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:04:56 ... < 1235330594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:05:05 like... metphorically < 1235330596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:05:10 *metaphorically < 1235330609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:05:13 ...I see. < 1235330611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:05:32 * lament slowly backs away from oklopol < 1235330612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:05:57 i'm < 1000 km long, don't worry 8| < 1235330614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:06:20 length can be measured in several ways < 1235330615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:06:27 i don't know which one you chose... < 1235330617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:06:27 --- part: Gamegirl left #esoteric < 1235330692 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235330737 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i am! < 1235330761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:43:52 this one day i had this weird urge to havea callstack, but i said to myself "don't you have another callstack, you just had one last week" and i was like "fuck you" < 1235330763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:44:02 you know < 1235330827 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: your weirdness is greatly amusing < 1235330857 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...did that one have a context? < 1235330880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, gamegirl came in < 1235330883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lament claimed we're all dead bots < 1235330891 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235330899 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ehird < 1235330906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you found an uncorrected typo < 1235330914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, where < 1235330915 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a big day for me. < 1235330919 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*have a < 1235330922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nop < 1235330925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my terminal < 1235330927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking up again < 1235330928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235330930 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235330933 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good :) < 1235330935 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is perfect
< 1235330935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I TRICKED YOU INTO CORRECTING < 1235330937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BWAHAHAHAHA < 1235330956 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you didn't, i was actually fooling *you* here. < 1235330964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1235330970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe you < 1235330982 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think i wouldn't remember an uncorrected typo < 1235331028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i have two questions about bf, is the datainitialized to 0? how do you print stuff? kernel calls? < 1235331031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kernel calls XD < 1235331044 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a) yes, and b) PSOX < 1235331045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs
< 1235331050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEee < 1235331065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : kernel calls? < 1235331073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:54:48 ! will call asm INT n, where n is the value of the current cell. < 1235331076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol the trickster. < 1235331091 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wouldn't be particularly useful unless you had control over the registers < 1235331096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ! is an addition command? I have only seen the 8 commands < 1235331099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH HE FOUND YOU OUT < 1235331109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:57:56 sorry, i just mislead people asking advice:< < 1235331110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1235331116 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's easy to print kernel calls in BF < 1235331121 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually doing kernel calls might be difficult < 1235331129 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can print them out to the screen easily enough < 1235331147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:03:21 CakeProphet: Sure it can (although the *implementation* of such things is lacking). < 1235331150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:03:38 One merely needs to implement PESOIX, or something similar, and voila. < 1235331155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PSOX PSOX PSOX PSOX PSOX < 1235331164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5 PSOXs is the correct way to yell PSOX repeatedly) < 1235331229 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (PSOX )::*:**S < 1235331238 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot? < 1235331240 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" sorry, i just mislead people asking advice:<" well this just sounds like plain bad english. of course maybe my intentionally simplified english sounds like that from an outsider's perspective. < 1235331241 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's fungot gone? < 1235331246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is dead. < 1235331249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry to have to tell you. < 1235331267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that's correct english < 1235331277 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i guess you can "ask advice" < 1235331280 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wouldn't use it < 1235331283 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1235331349 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it maybe be the "advice:<" that makes it look clumsy. < 1235331353 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1235331354 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*may be < 1235331354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1235331357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"advice :<" < 1235331359 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1235331369 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP TELLING ME THINGS I ALREADY KNOW OR DON'T KNOW < 1235331391 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there things you do neither? < 1235331399 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope! < 1235331406 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a polite way to tell someone to stfu < 1235331431 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean, an obscure way, so that they don't realized they've been insulted < 1235331474 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much the definition of polite. < 1235331482 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :insulting people in ways they don't understand < 1235331497 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I love tht definition < 1235331501 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need food, brb < 1235331543 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it for many things, "friends, the people you only insult behind their backs" < 1235331553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I broke my kde taskbar < 1235331620 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. i'm feeling a bit too lucid atm < 1235331651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all... < 1235331658 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night AnMaster < 1235331660 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, evening < 1235331663 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pretty early for night < 1235331683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, going to bed early due to flu (probably, or something equally terrible...) < 1235331687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1235331767 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flus are for losers. < 1235331815 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only losers get sick *sniffs and wraps blanket tighter around self* < 1235332064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in kde, hold down control-windowskey < 1235332067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see stars go around cursor < 1235332069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1235332097 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Compiz does that too, but it's not enabled by default < 1235332106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I guess kde is using compiz < 1235332114 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, windows key = "super" in Linux terminology < 1235332127 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and AFAIR, kde doesn't use compiz, it has its own implementation of the same things < 1235332279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!! < 1235332281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[19:50] ehird: it so happened, that oklopol turned 20 just today. < 1235332285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note: #vjn, probably total lies. < 1235332294 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://home.earthlink.net/~misaak/jackbean.html argh, so many puns < 1235332304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if not < 1235332308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :world ending in soon times. < 1235332312 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1235332320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: is lies? < 1235332322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1235332322 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol's about the same age as me I think, probably slightly younger < 1235332325 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lies" < 1235332327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he's 19 < 1235332335 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a joke you didn't get for obvious reasons < 1235332342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when he turns 20, the world will end because there's no way oklopol could be 20, i mean he's so... 19 < 1235332343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: :DD < 1235332525 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1235332553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you mean oklopol will turn 20 in 2012? < 1235332571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1235332575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he'll be 19 for _years_. < 1235333514 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1235333623 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Quit" < 1235335504 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-219.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1235336708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back on OS X. < 1235336722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.errornerd.com/system-2.php?seed=The-Weird-Smile-Of-The-Dude-To-The-Right-Of-This-Article < 1235336965 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235337237 0 :chuck!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1235337473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Caught sigterm, terminating..." < 1235337489 0 :ashdasd!n=asjdhasd@91.105.68.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235337502 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep committing irc faux pas: saying something in the wrong channel. < 1235337510 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ashdasd < 1235337527 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which channel did you say it in this time? < 1235337544 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I linked to http://plan9.bell-labs.com/magic/man2html/1/vi in #emacs < 1235337550 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1235337578 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The resolution is to kill my bouncer so I don't see people insult me :P < 1235337592 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the response format for ctcp version is NOTICE nickyourerespondingto :^AVERSION put version number here^A < 1235337625 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[CTCP] Received CTCP-ehird reply from ashdasd: v13. < 1235337626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost... < 1235337709 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, pasting that in #emacs was a stroke of genius < 1235337714 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did they react? < 1235337733 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a hunch he doesn't know < 1235337749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they kicked him? or because he parted in panic? < 1235337752 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I quit it too quickly :-( < 1235337766 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ashdasd: The resolution is to kill my bouncer so I don't see people insult me :P" < 1235337767 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am very shy round foreign channels :P < 1235337781 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashdazed < 1235337797 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should just run a bot on those channels so I can spy on them post-quit < 1235337807 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you do with ##nomic, you mean? < 1235337822 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1235337830 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't read ##nomic. < 1235337836 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe you < 1235337844 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not my problem < 1235337907 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION mutters something about ais523 being such an ehird towards ehird nowadays ;)
< 1235337913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1235337919 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to go eat now < 1235337931 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the dog starts barking, please tell it to shut up, since it's late. < 1235337951 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, the dog or just it in general is late? < 1235337963 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1235337965 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ppl sleep < 1235337974 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a dog barking would upset my neighs < 1235338024 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1235338397 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god, christel is annoying. < 1235338404 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1235338427 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't she just get to the point with the bloomin' notices to every-freaking-one instead of inserting rubbish jokes every 3 words < 1235338639 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When i googled for something and found entire transcripts of #emacs, i was appalled and stopped joining #emacs. This stinks of Big Brother. when i write on this wiki, i expect it to be publicly available. but i was naive enough to think that an irc session would be too transient to get indexed. my mistake, but it wonb < 1235338643 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fail. < 1235338665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all the people who could be logging, one probably will be < 1235338749 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should set up a sekrit channel logging bot and have it go in all channels it finds. < 1235338781 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ashdasd: Freenode will very ban you if you do that < 1235338784 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'll agree with them < 1235338798 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll claim to have accidentally let the log directory open. < 1235338820 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they ought not to believe you < 1235338824 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given your track record, at least < 1235338832 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they won't know it's me. tor. < 1235338872 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does tor even work on freenode? < 1235338876 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1235338892 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus, linking the logs to the bot would be near-impossible. it'd pose as human. < 1235338901 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235339043 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you realize people have already done exactly that < 1235339051 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who < 1235339074 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm < 1235339078 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot the name < 1235339086 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there was a huge scandal < 1235339096 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's only because people found out,. < 1235339105 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many idlers on IRC. < 1235339116 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, which is why i'm saying people have already done that < 1235339132 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there was a scandal, the performers are crap. < 1235339173 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their site doesn't even come up in search for irc log < 1235339185 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i assume they phailed completely afterwards < 1235339291 0 :ehird!n=ehird@eso-std.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1235339301 0 :ashdasd!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235339326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Butt tacular < 1235339341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: your bouncer's reworking? < 1235339349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It never broke, I killed it to exit #emacs. < 1235339367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Freenode had banned it? < 1235339368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't just part as I Cmd-Q'd my client immediately. < 1235339377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ermm, when? < 1235339379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :months ago? < 1235339383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah, they did then... < 1235339383 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1235339390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you've seen me on it since then? < 1235339392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@eso-std.org? < 1235339405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... which, by the way, expires today < 1235339560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://alpha61.com/primenumbershittingbear/ it's back! < 1235339611 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: how long do you think it'll be squatted for once it expires? < 1235339622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I doubt it will be squatted < 1235339644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I'll start up my own ESO some time < 1235339651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who said ESO died? < 1235339651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :running under ais523 principles rather than ehird principles < 1235339656 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it might actually get something done that way < 1235339661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1235339665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ESO has been effectively dead forever, because it's never done anything < 1235339672 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than argue about what sort of markup to use < 1235339676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, eso-1 got pretty far. < 1235339696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://esoteric.sange.fi/ENSI/ < 1235339697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a field day < 1235339732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a number of famous people < 1235339733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Ørjan Johansen, from the Norwegian language < 1235339733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Panu Kalliokoski, from the Finnish language < 1235339733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gerson Kurz, from the German language < 1235339733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Chris Pressey, from the Canadian language < 1235339738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i started eso because I like bikeshedding < 1235339757 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.sange.fi/ENSI/brainfuck-1.0.txt hahaha < 1235339774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esoteric.sange.fi/ENSI/brainfuck-1.3.txt Real standard < 1235339867 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, they're all jokes I think < 1235339883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, http://esoteric.sange.fi/ENSI/brainfuck-1.3.txt is pretty serious < 1235339898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very, but it's a usable setandard < 1235339901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1235339906 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even address the EOF problem < 1235339921 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it insists on a truly semi-infinite tape < 1235340422 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1235340429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerj < 1235340431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1235340440 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehi < 1235340456 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235340486 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, hi < 1235340512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELECTRONIC HI < 1235340518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1235340544 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, does anyone here know why vertical tabs? < 1235340556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like vertical tabs < 1235340572 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :form letters? < 1235340628 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i imagine if you were filling out a lot of them on a typewriter, vertical tabs would be nice < 1235340637 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was Wikipedia's idea < 1235340642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1235340653 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also if you print on form letters < 1235340703 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"..." < 1235340718 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"his body's shutting down" ... blah, do they really say that? is that actually a meaningful metaphor for some medical condition? < 1235340752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1235340773 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a body rebooting would be weird < 1235340788 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"*** Body going down for reboot NOW" < 1235340849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sleep is just the body's fsck < 1235340866 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm sorry, she's going to runlevel 0, there's nothing we can do except bring her down gracefully" < 1235341079 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i learned je m'appelle claude! < 1235341092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :je m'appelle tres bien aussi < 1235341101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a language with no points at all < 1235341106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :function composition, no variables < 1235341108 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "I am also called very well"? < 1235341112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not say ski calculus < 1235341116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for I will rip your brain out < 1235341144 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "i call myself", technically < 1235341150 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes < 1235341157 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, it's 10pm and I'm not thinking straight < 1235341178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so in other words, you think you have a good name? < 1235341194 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're overanalyzing < 1235341222 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just a nonsense phrase i remember from somewhere < 1235341354 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FP_programming_language ? < 1235341366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it impossible to add holes to FP? < 1235341396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"⊥ is the undefined value, or bottom" <- lame. < 1235341441 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: um every tc functional language has bottom, why not name it? < 1235341455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing completeness sux :P < 1235341506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://xkcd.com/545/ < 1235341537 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, that's ridiculous < 1235341559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if that ever happened, I think it would be a fairly good bet that the article would be protected < 1235341565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to which word count? :-D < 1235341571 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows? < 1235341575 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably there'd be a wheel war < 1235341580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd lobby it for deletion < 1235341583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see what happens < 1235341586 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it would have an even word count < 1235341588 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to having no words < 1235341598 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it would be more fun to leave the number of words ambiguous < 1235341598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does a deleted article exist? no < 1235341601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't have a set of words < 1235341601 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say by adding in a nbdp < 1235341604 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nbsp < 1235341604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no such set < 1235341608 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hyphenated words < 1235341610 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and apostrophised words < 1235341621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: therefore, hatman must give the money to ** Exception: undefined < 1235341634 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does wp have templates that can depend on who's watching it? (probably) < 1235341686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, although the feature's been requested every now and then < 1235341692 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem is caching < 1235341701 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can use CSS to depend on which skin they use < 1235341714 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1235341719 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do things that change every time the article's refreshed < 1235341726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they did on the US presedential election day < 1235341734 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they set up the Main Page to show featured articles about both candidates < 1235341749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the order depended on when the page had last been purged, and it's purged quite a lot < 1235341760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahah < 1235341779 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1235341936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3503/xkcdhybridka3.png < 1235341984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1235341989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like pie lots < 1235341999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what! < 1235341999 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1235342108 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1235342129 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see a lot of pie blinking out of existence < 1235342149 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION scares FireFly with the swatter, but without hitting -----###
< 1235342178 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION scares oerjan with jokes about norwegian people, but without telling any.
< 1235342185 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AYEEEEEEEEH < 1235342234 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION -> for a couple of days
< 1235342244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.bbspot.com/News/2007/10/xkcd-comic-reenactment-leads-to-100-deaths.html < 1235342273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=35035#p1388172 <-- haha < 1235342317 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Once something is on the web, it's there forever," said xkcd fan Marlon Hatcher. "I can't wait to go to the next meetup in San Francisco and kill myself with other fans." < 1235342318 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1235342345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope that news story isn't real < 1235342350 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is, the journalism on it is rubbish < 1235342360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, it's bbspot < 1235342362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the geek onion < 1235342389 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tend not to find fake newspapers particularly amusing < 1235342399 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true or not, it's funny. < 1235342446 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1235342471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I fully support http://www.everytopicintheuniverseexceptchickens.com/ < 1235342526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it typically discuss? < 1235342547 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if there's a http://www.thebestpageintheuniverseexceptchickens.com
< 1235342556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: click it < 1235342558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about wikipedia < 1235342572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the guy who writes dinosaur comics < 1235342576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wrote Jokes Explained < 1235342596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which link, yours or mine? < 1235342600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine < 1235342666 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey! < 1235342669 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gperf finished! < 1235342672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1235342673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1235342693 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only took 6.5 days of cpu time < 1235342705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make green ness < 1235342717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On August 17, 2007, the Spanish TVE2 ("La 2") public T.V. channel vandalised the Spanish article on John Lennon in the 2:30 news program, just for the sake of making a story" < 1235342718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1235342756 0 :Robdgreat!i=rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat JOIN :#esoteric < 1235342797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Robdgreat < 1235342847 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there < 1235342860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo dawg, I heard you like fractals so I put a sierpinski gasket in your sierpinski gasket so you can triangle while you triangle < 1235342873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where does the yo dawg thing come from? < 1235342881 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what started the meme? what was the original phrase? < 1235342887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :allow me to link you < 1235342919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tl;dr: Xzibit is a rapper. He has a show on MTV, "Pimp My Ride". < 1235342930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They put stupid shit in cars behind people's backs relating to their interests. < 1235342940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yo dawg, I heard you like X so we put an X-thing in your car so you can X while you drive." < 1235342947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was then generalized < 1235342976 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, some nitpickers point out it's supposedly "Sup dawg" < 1235342984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1235342988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/d/d6/Yoyoyodawg.jpg < 1235343048 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i don't visit that site any more. < 1235343056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that link is sfw. < 1235343066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that general website isn't, though < 1235343072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1235343079 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite possibly blocked, and you get in trouble for setting off the blocker < 1235343088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, blocked where? < 1235343092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean at work/school? < 1235343103 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here at university < 1235343106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if oerjan is at one of those right now, his schedule is fucked up < 1235343115 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah i'm at home < 1235343117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although indeed makes sense for you < 1235343122 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've already set it off once and had to explain < 1235343130 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for some bizarre reason, they blocked the text of the X11 licence < 1235343148 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't _like_ watching semi-porn while i am trying to read about something completely different < 1235343166 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... "semi-porn"? < 1235343172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said that image was sfw. < 1235343180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, the ads are annoying. < 1235343181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha, how the heck did they question you? < 1235343182 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: and indeed it was < 1235343188 0 :Dewio!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Dewi < 1235343190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"WHY DID YOU VIEW THE x11 LICENSE? HAVE YOU NO MORALS?!?!?" < 1235343202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...THE GPL IS THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE LICENSE!" < 1235343228 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, I sent an apologetic email explaining that I had no idea it was blocked until I hit the filter < 1235343240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they question you first, though? < 1235343244 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :luckily, I'm friends with the people who administer the thing (who don't like it either0 < 1235343250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna know what the heck they said :D < 1235343251 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's automated, a big scary red messaeg < 1235343256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1235343263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :web filters are so ridiculous < 1235343270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial to get around and annoy legitimate users < 1235343272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like DRM... < 1235343283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to go around the filter a lot, because the filter server kept crashing < 1235343299 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so I couldn't even access email until I turned the thing off < 1235343307 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, nowadays it's a lot more reliable, so I go through it < 1235343314 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also they blocked the exploit I used to use < 1235343333 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I can't be bothered to find a new one, it's not worth it < 1235343439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lengthwise, it'd degenerate into the debate over whether 2 is odd or even." < 1235343440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1235343476 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235343519 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: indeed < 1235343524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat < 1235343593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.xkcd545.com/ <- fail < 1235343625 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 2? i did see someone trying that with 1 in that discussion you linked < 1235343626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcds have their own domain names now? < 1235343636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, some idiot registered it < 1235343646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking that it wouldn't be deleted because he's an idiot < 1235343649 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it redirect to xkcd 545? < 1235343660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not lynx(1), ais523. < 1235343665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're perfectly capable of clicking links. < 1235343681 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, but I don't /want/ to < 1235343694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If the Wikipedia article gets deleted, null doesn't pay." that's definitely fail :D < 1235343696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either use a browser or miss out on the www... < 1235343796 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or use telnet :) < 1235343925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet is a browser < 1235343993 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235344091 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/wiki/?title=Card+Chess < 1235344103 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really chess... < 1235344137 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-128-205.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235344154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: you should invent my awesome game < 1235344174 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No. No it is not. < 1235344177 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"This computer has gone to sleep" < 1235344179 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's sort of in the /spirit/ of chess :P < 1235344195 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: If it's your game, I didn't invent it :P < 1235344214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: the basic idea is: make solving it = breaking RSA (that is, primey factory) < 1235344223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yet still try and keep it possible for human < 1235344223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1235344228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := WHERE'S YOUR AI NOW < 1235344241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for extra points, involve fractal < 1235344241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1235344269 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that's easy < 1235344291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: yes, but it has to be playable by humans < 1235344294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :productively < 1235344300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with actual skill levels and the like, just as normal games < 1235344307 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number just have to be small enough < 1235344322 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1235344326 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okoko < 1235344327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: point: missed. < 1235344351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I don't think that any way of organising the data, humans will be any good at solving RSA < 1235344353 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1235344357 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your point was stupid < 1235344362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: waah. < 1235344367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the way, new scientist's reporting that a 28-bit quantum computer has been made < 1235344370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the idea isn't to have humans solve RSA. < 1235344374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's 28 quantum bits of memory /altogether/) < 1235344374 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna say something... < 1235344378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is that for computers to solve it effectively, < 1235344381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have to solve RSA. < 1235344392 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cool, did they factor 20 yet? < 1235344394 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that there are plans for a 128-bit quantum computer being made along the same principle < 1235344396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else be strong ai < 1235344398 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 20's even < 1235344405 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ..so? < 1235344408 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it could factor 21, though < 1235344414 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so Shor's algorithm fails on even numbers < 1235344416 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know anything about shor's < 1235344425 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah okay assumed but didn't actually know < 1235344440 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rsa numbers have only 2 factors anyway < 1235344464 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. 21 is the next logical step < 1235344586 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is factorization np complete? < 1235344592 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1235344592 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1235344595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's polynomial time < 1235344604 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it in O(n) trivially < 1235344608 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's rather slow on big numbers < 1235344639 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't the complexity of factorisation usually expressed in terms of the size of the number? < 1235344639 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1235344644 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not its value < 1235344644 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1235344652 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, O(2^n) then < 1235344663 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's pseudo-polynomial < 1235344668 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, though, I think n should be the number < 1235344669 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :else what would you call it? < 1235344671 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't. < 1235344701 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's the number, it's pseudo-polynomial, it's not polynomial on input size, it's polynomial on some invariant about input. < 1235344709 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm theory: the universe is actually simulated on a classical computer, using looping to simulate quantum effects. when quantum computers are built the number of loop iterations needed to simulate them goes asymptotical. the universe thus grinds to a halt on Dec 22, 2012 :D < 1235344709 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case whatever number it represents < 1235344722 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if p=np, then you can factor in polynomial time in size right? < 1235344742 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that's an insane theory < 1235344750 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, people are getting the 2012 thing all wrong < 1235344762 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that particular doomsday date the one people seem to focus on, ayway? < 1235344763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1235344771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've said this so many times to you < 1235344774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY'RE NEW AGERS! < 1235344776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY DON'T USE THEIR BRAIN! < 1235344782 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i think it's because i watched that documentary. < 1235344785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY'RE IDIOTS WHO WILL CROWD AROUND ANYTHING "SPIRITUAL"! < 1235344789 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why that one in /particular/? < 1235344792 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because it's the next one up with some kind of rationale < 1235344792 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: well sure < 1235344799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE THE MAYANS WERE CLEVER AND HAD "TECHNOLOGY"! < 1235344804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND THEY PREDICTED IT VAGUELY AND OMNIOUSLY! < 1235344807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT MUST BE TRUE! < 1235344810 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does p!=np imply that factorization is hard? < 1235344810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, capslock. < 1235344813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :manual capslock! < 1235344831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :caps lock is cruise control for cool? < 1235344838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cruise control for 2012 < 1235344838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the previous line was typed with caps lock on) < 1235344852 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i don't know whether it's np-hard. everyone else does < 1235344859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAPSLOCK + SHIFT = UPPERCASE ON OS X < 1235344877 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like i don't remember, because when i last looked at factorization, i didn't know what it meant. < 1235344881 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean np-hardness < 1235344888 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why? < 1235344892 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a bit ridiculous < 1235344907 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IF YOU WANT TO TYPE A lot BUT WITH A FEW lowercase WORDS OR lETTERS IN? < 1235344914 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: no, but p=np would imply it's easy < 1235344923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: DON"T USE CAPSLOCK < 1235344926 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, polynomially easy) < 1235344926 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and before you say that's ridiculous, that was typical style for earlier versions of BASIC < 1235344936 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1235344939 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and shift+caps lock was capital there too, annoyingly < 1235344949 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i definitely should've known it's not been proven np-hard. < 1235344953 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still mostly used caps lock when writing basic, though, as everything had to be capital but variable names < 1235344992 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one knows whether it's np-hard, i should think < 1235344996 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1235345032 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see any reason to use lowercase except that many dislike uppercase on irc < 1235345046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lowercase is easier to read for long periods of time < 1235345078 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't believe that < 1235345130 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they also say monospaced fonts are harder to read < 1235345175 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is complete bullshit < 1235345188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it isnt' < 1235345192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(INTERNET ARGUMENTS) < 1235345207 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERN ET ARGUMENTS < 1235345256 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is so. < 1235345291 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's actually a course on quantum computing in our uni, would be one way to learn shor's algo, i'm too lazy to read the wiki page anyway. < 1235345314 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it wasn't until after my course on engineering that I understood Shor's algorithm < 1235345318 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's based on Fourier stuff < 1235345332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the descriptions of it I've seen assume you already know how that works < 1235345356 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might know fourier stuff, i but i don't know whether i do. < 1235345364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-i < 1235345394 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to get your numbers fourier before they can be shorn < 1235345399 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "engineering" mean for a course? < 1235345415 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"shorn", hah < 1235345439 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is surprised to still be alive after that one
< 1235345473 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it was that bad? < 1235345600 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, clearly it killed everyone else < 1235345650 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1235345699 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you were saved by not getting all of it, or something < 1235345837 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i just liked "shorn" < 1235345865 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what is an engineering course? :) < 1235345875 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well it's electronic engineering in my case < 1235345894 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an electronics course next wednesday < 1235345900 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err i mean the one after that < 1235345904 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1235345906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i also mean exam < 1235345907 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1235345960 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also calculus and software engineering and some ai, should probably try to cut down on the irc chatter. < 1235346252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so guys reiserfs4 < 1235346258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear it's gonna be a killer filesystem < 1235346270 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats ehird to death -----###
< 1235346271 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that joke is so last year < 1235346277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: i know but it's still funny < 1235346281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: dammit Hans! < 1235346284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was joking! < 1235346291 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i wasn't? < 1235346292 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Reiser is having a bad time in prison < 1235346298 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, don't call me Hans < 1235346311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ... and? < 1235346352 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ... and? < 1235346399 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find where the news article went < 1235346408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On 10 January 2009 it was reported that Hans Reiser is recovering after having been beaten up by several prisoners.[52] < 1235346410 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why not? < 1235346411 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :engineering: it's a bit of programming, a bit of electronics, a bit of maths, and some business management that I hate < 1235346414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel ... so sorry for him? < 1235346415 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it sound too swedish? < 1235346428 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: because! < 1235346445 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, here it is: http://cbs5.com/crime/hans.reiser.attack.2.905257.html < 1235346481 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oh it's a perfectly normal norwegian name, it's just not mine < 1235346534 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it should be. < 1235346534 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got two cousins with it as first or middle name < 1235346538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235346569 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and bye ice < 1235346570 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although we don't actually use the latter one) < 1235346631 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well middle names are kinda useless < 1235346704 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just about the only one on my father's side of the family who _doesn't_ have one... < 1235346796 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, reiser means "travels" in norwegian