< 1235952208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.................. < 1235953183 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanting is just another kind of need < 1235957048 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1235957674 0 :FireyFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235957796 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1235957800 0 :FireyFly!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :FireFly < 1235958749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1235959318 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, at least you're trying to be nice to goethe < 1235959667 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235959991 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1235959991 0 :Robdgreat!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1235959999 0 :Robdgreat!i=rob@unaffiliated/robdgreat JOIN :#esoteric < 1235959999 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235960033 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1235960939 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1235966704 0 :MizardX-!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235966704 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235966763 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1235966828 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1235967826 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1235970191 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242398954.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1235971616 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :QuirkyMonkey < 1235974050 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"want" is to "need" as "theory" is to "fact" ... once you start getting technical, they're all the same :P < 1235974256 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1235976649 0 :QuirkyMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreaseMonkey < 1235976786 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1235978167 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-57-164-119.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235980102 0 :jix!n=jix@paed-gw.schule.bremen.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235980799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1235980800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1235981770 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-0-153.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1235982588 0 :tombom!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1235983113 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Computer has gone to sleep" < 1235983213 0 :jix!n=jix@paed-gw.schule.bremen.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1235983554 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"..." < 1235985301 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client Excited" < 1235985988 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> print hex(id(257)) < 1235985990 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xb713d8 < 1235985992 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> print hex(id(258)) < 1235985994 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xb713d8 < 1235985996 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> 257 is 258 < 1235985998 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :False < 1235986068 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>> print hex(id(257)),hex(id(258)) < 1235986068 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0xb713d8 0xb713cc < 1235986217 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-5 to 256 is cached. The rest is subject to garbage collection and reallocation. < 1235986294 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so? < 1235986339 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To speed up calculation, store every number to be used in some collection. :) < 1235987685 0 :DH__!n=DHeadsho@eduroam-30-139.rdg.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1235987727 0 :DH__!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1235987735 0 :DH__!n=DHeadsho@eduroam-30-139.rdg.ac.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1235988422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.makelinux.net/kernel_map < 1235988425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1235993729 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235995276 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1235997705 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.121 JOIN :#esoteric < 1236001873 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bittifying" < 1236002488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:01 comex: well, at least you're trying to be nice to goethe < 1236002492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :itym /query ehird < 1236002531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: nice page apart from the "ISRAEL IS AWESOME" link in the bottom right. < 1236002539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed < 1236002548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I didn't notice that link before btw < 1236002563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was so busy looking at the interesting map < 1236002574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should put like, a link supporting pedophillia in the corner of all my highly interesting technical documents < 1236002581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then nobody will criticize any part apart from that one < 1236002594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1236002666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://linuxdriver.co.il/israel/hamas_and_press <- hamas are evil, black and wear green headbands. < 1236002668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1236002681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, their children are shaped like elongated eggs < 1236002878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1236002909 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1236002960 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1236002967 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-085-216-041-121.hsi.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1236003643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linuxdna-supercharges-linux-intel-cc-compiler < 1236003760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, AMD here < 1236003773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't icc work for amd? < 1236003779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah but it is slower than gcc < 1236003781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on amd < 1236003782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1236003798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it isn't like Intel have any interest in making it good on amd... < 1236003802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1236003807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's pretty bad, since gcc is one of the slowest compilers... < 1236003847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, slowest as in compile time or generating slow code? Or both? < 1236003852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :latter < 1236003862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although gcc(1)'s execution time is pretty dismal, I don't know how that compares to others < 1236003874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, iirc clang is a lot faster. < 1236003881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but of course it is far from ready yet < 1236003884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, clang(1) is faster < 1236003889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcc is way way faster btw... < 1236003898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it only does basic constant folding iirc < 1236003900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, gcc's generated code pales in comparison to the vast majority of other compilers, iirc < 1236003904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(mostly commercial) < 1236003907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true < 1236003920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a bit better in recent versions however < 1236003943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, compare GCC 3.4 to GCC 4.3 for example... < 1236003957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only have 4.0.1 < 1236003972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that's what comes with Apple's latest devtools, and I could upgrade it manually but I wouldn't get apple's mods < 1236003988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't feel like finding out if it'd break something < 1236004006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have 3.4.6, 4.1.2, 4.2.1, 4.3. < 1236004016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: incidentally, I experienced an insanely bad bug in my gcc yesterday < 1236004019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in major breakage < 1236004028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if I give you a console log you can explain it? < 1236004030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's very simple < 1236004030 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, only archlinux would make a compiler hit stable a few days after it was released... < 1236004040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure < 1236004042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tell me < 1236004050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and file a bug after checking the last gcc ;) < 1236004054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.0.1 is kind of old < 1236004061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's almost certainly not a gcc bug < 1236004084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also llvm-gcc uses apple mods. llvm-gcc is on 4.2.1 currently iirc < 1236004115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apple have heavily invested in llvm so I'm not surprised < 1236004119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1236004129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so what is this bug you hit? < 1236004133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://pastie.org/404648.txt?key=kjkf82sgtymwyt44eapphq < 1236004140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :warning: your eyes will pop out in shock at the WTFiness < 1236004142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :key? < 1236004144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1236004157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I set it as a private paste so it doesn't show up in the recent pastes list < 1236004175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1236004183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: but yeah, surely the cpp can't be THAT horrifically broken?!?! < 1236004190 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1236004197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, something is wrong yes. < 1236004207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :terribly wrong.. < 1236004212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe (haven't checked) cpp standalone defaults to --traditional or something? < 1236004221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the opposite of --traditional? < 1236004234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, this works on a recent version of gcc/linux, so I doubt that < 1236004248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, don't know, and don't remember if the exact option name was that. Was just trying to come up with a hypothesis < 1236004261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks man page now < 1236004292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I looked < 1236004297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but couldn't find anything relevant < 1236004310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the person who tested it on linux thinks it's apple shipping a broken gcc < 1236004319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I find it hard to believe their gcc team is that incompetent < 1236004335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, my cpp does it correctly < 1236004339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4.1.2 < 1236004341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nod. < 1236004349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ cpp --version < 1236004349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpp (GCC) 4.1.2 20070214 ( (gdc 0.24, using dmd 1.020)) (Gentoo 4.1.2 p1.1) < 1236004356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1236004358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's your gdc cpp < 1236004360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? lol < 1236004363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no < 1236004368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"( (gdc 0.24, using dmd 1.020))" < 1236004374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the same version string is appeneded to all of gcc < 1236004375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1236004377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1236004380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extremely stupid yes < 1236004383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you're meant to install gdc separately :P < 1236004401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm? Just turned on the d useflag for GCC < 1236004408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, that's wrong < 1236004415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're meant to have a separate gcc called gdc < 1236004426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I do, but all are built at once < 1236004427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems < 1236004431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1236004431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1236004467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I mean it builds g++, gcc, gfortan, gdc, whatever-the-objc-one-is-called < 1236004484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--enable-languages=c,c++,d,objc,treelang,fortran < 1236004489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1236004489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to gcc -v < 1236004496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well, gdc is obsolete anyway < 1236004511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah, so is this gcc and your mom :P < 1236004533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that's literally; the creator of the d language has said about as much and the last release was in 2070 < 1236004535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*2007 < 1236004557 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+/- 63 years < 1236004577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1236004660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, did you know gdb includes large part of binutils in the source tarball? < 1236004672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but I am not surprised. < 1236004701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and that gcc has it's own modified copy of libtool included? < 1236004705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, #macosx is so pointless to be in. it's all random chatter about bullshit and cannabis, and not one bit of os x talk < 1236004709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for internal use during building < 1236004723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know this because I left it on when going to sleep so I have a full nightsworth of logs. < 1236004735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: O_O < 1236004745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, that is because everything just works on OS X, so they have nothing else to talk about ;P < 1236004763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1236004835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh and that gcc use autoconf but not automake. < 1236004848 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not surprising < 1236004858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc's fucked up enough that automake would probably be impossible < 1236004874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1236004887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's enough to make kernighan disown C... < 1236004890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually some parts of it use automake < 1236004923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :libjava, libstdc++ and a few other < 1236004927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nost most parts < 1236004938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reminds me that I was going to write an article on how to kern Han characters and sign it Brian W Kerninghan < 1236004965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that pun is too bad even for me to say it... < 1236004969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1236004985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err that was not grammatically correct, was it? < 1236005032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it might be technically correc < 1236005032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1236005035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was very awkawrd < 1236005036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*awkward < 1236005044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'that pun is too bad for me to even say it' would be more idiomatic < 1236005048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, I know that's less logic < 1236005048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :al < 1236005073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err that wouldn't be the same < 1236005078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1236005094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the most ridiculous idioms < 1236005106 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first one implied it was so bad it was even worse than my bad jokes :P < 1236005112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does mine < 1236005122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an unintuitive idiom < 1236005154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm ok... it *seems* to mean that it is so bad that I would never say it (and not implying in any way that I make bad jokes) < 1236005173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1236005184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: try 'that pun is too bad for even me to say it' < 1236005195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1236005362 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even pun, that too bad is, for me to say it is. Even. < 1236005380 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope I didn't miss any words. < 1236005425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pun bad too is me say even for < 1236005492 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, another cool thing: valgrind itself doesn't use system libc, but has it's own one that it uses internally. And then I'm not talking about redirecting malloc() and such... < 1236005496 0 :Asztal^_^!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original, "that pun is too bad even for me to say it...", seemed fine to me < 1236005506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: O_O < 1236005514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal^_^: 'even for me to' is bad < 1236005521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, iirc it can't use system libc since it need to do stuff before libc is loaded < 1236006323 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : aaabdeeefhiimnnooooprsstttttuvy. Now the letters are more ordered. < 1236006323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, for more info see docs/internals/why-no-libc.txt in the valgrind source tarball < 1236006323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd use valgrind if it supported my platform < 1236006323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah, but porting valgrind isn't easy < 1236006323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering it does all sort of strange tricks < 1236006323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1236006323 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darwin/x86 is marked "high" in valgrind's "porting plans" priority table. Dated Feb 1, 2007. Lacking suitably interested people, I guess. < 1236006323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1236006323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, maybe you could help! < 1236006323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm not too hot on the internal details of Darwin/Mach < 1236006323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm it would probably be harder than porting to other *nix on x86 since you can't reuse the ELF stuff even < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't valgrind work on freebsd iirc? < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though iirc it works better on linux < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still saddens me that we even need tools like valgrind, being able to leak memory shouldn't be something you can do by accident... < 1236006324 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On the other hand: "There are experimental ppc32/darwin and x86/FreeBSD ports for Valgrind 2.X. They could be made to work with 3.X with some effort." < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, or use uninitialised variables? < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've followed a "with some effort" pointer before, fizzie. That way lies madness. < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or have tread race conditions < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thread* < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what the fuck is an uninitialized variable anyway < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variables store a value < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from a theoretical point of view, an uninitialized variable is just ridiculous < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in C it is like this: int foo(int bar) { int quux; return quux + bar; } < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, well, that's C for you < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i presume it made sense in the 70s < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true. Valgrind is for languages like C and C++ < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gets() also made sense in the 70s... < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are still used < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no way gets() made sense even back then < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it did < 1236006324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :explain please... < 1236006324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you didn't listen to the program when it told you to enter up to 30 characters you got fired < 1236006328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because your job was to operate the programs < 1236006332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1236006344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there weren't any malicious users < 1236006347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like trying to break your toaster < 1236006350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do it, but who does < 1236006373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they were network connected I'm sure we would have lots of toaster hackers... < 1236006385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now THAT'S some criminal activity I could get into < 1236006388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then you can break someone else' toaster... < 1236006399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i pwnt ur toaster" < 1236006406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"now it burnz all your bread. and ur hand." < 1236006406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else's? < 1236006408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1236006409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"HAHAHAHAHAHA" < 1236006433 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure spammers would hack toasters to burn viagra ads to all bread. < 1236006452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should just burn the viagra into the bread. < 1236006452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you got a dangerous mind... < 1236006461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Now you've had a sneak peek, why not buy some more?" < 1236006470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1236006476 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway. < 1236006481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"someone else's"? < 1236006483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm more worried about the unholy scramjet-equipped cyborg pigeons, an abomination against nature. < 1236006486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how do you say that... < 1236006488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone else's is valid syntax. < 1236006499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, really? it looks very weird < 1236006505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not to me < 1236006508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1236006513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what looks odd to be is omitting the s after s' < 1236006513 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEP field is the Somebody Else's Problem field. < 1236006522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true that looks worse < 1236006530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain doesn't mentally parse the invisible s < 1236006538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but trying saying it out loud? < 1236006542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the s < 1236006542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet most style guides recommend it < 1236006545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: sure, you repeat the s < 1236006549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Joneses" < 1236006557 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come to think of it, I haven't seen any programmable-image toasters, just boring fixed-image ones. Certainly in 2009 it should be possible to read toast-pictures from an USB stick or something. < 1236006562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sure, but to me it seems weird after "else" < 1236006569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shrug < 1236006576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't a noun or pronoun (sp?). < 1236006577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"elseses" < 1236006589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it's a (pronoun*) < 1236006594 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elsifs. < 1236006596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointer dereferencing is implicit < 1236006610 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also scramjet is fun... < 1236006630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Things you should know: the Illuminati is run by reptilian astral entities known throughout history as Djinn, Nagas, Sheti, Angels/Demons, Dragons, Drucul etc. that rule the higher echelons of Freemasonry and do foul sex&torture rituals usually with young children getting eaten. They'll probably stage terror attacks soon, then will come an American union(WW3 too) & a staged alien invasion w/Draconian-saviours! Get storable food, support Stewart Swerd < 1236006631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :low, Alex Jones, Dr.Deagle & David Icke!" < 1236006633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— Youtube < 1236006638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks for the info. < 1236006651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much shorter travel time for Europe-US could you get with a scramjet aircraft? < 1236006655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compared to a Concorde or such < 1236006661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: scramjet cyborg pigeon? < 1236006665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they travel faster than light. < 1236006676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before you start talkin' physics, they're an abomination against nature, remember? < 1236006678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not those, I mean a scramjet aircraft < 1236006684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. those are boring. < 1236006692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, still they are quite fast < 1236006713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway scramjet cyborg pigeon aren't an abomination against nature. unholy scramjet-equipped cyborg pigeons are < 1236006719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a important difference there < 1236006739 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scramjet cyborg pigeon are just dead. < 1236006763 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pigeons* < 1236006766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:08 ehird: AnMaster: I'm more worried about the unholy scramjet-equipped cyborg pigeons, an abomination against nature. < 1236006767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said unholy < 1236006773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, AnMaster: scramjet cyborg pigeon? < 1236006775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not there < 1236006775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1236006783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but I missed the abomination part too < 1236006793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : before you start talkin' physics, they're an abomination against nature, remember? < 1236006802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that implied they were < 1236006802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i said unholy before < 1236006816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah so you just forgot a word then there < 1236006819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1236006875 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, this "introduction to AI" course programming-assignment/AI-tournament thing is proving to be rather popular this year too. 36 groups already registered. < 1236006902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wait, finns doing AI? shit. shit. robot invasion soon. < 1236006909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stealing food and securing house -> < 1236006954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you sould like Randall... < 1236006971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we share common safety instincts < 1236007002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well in his case it is those velicoraptors or whatever the name was. < 1236007006 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We already had this tournament thing last year, and all we got was a couple of Java classes that play a board game. Your fears might be exaggerationary. < 1236007021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but _oklopol_ might be in this one. < 1236007023 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Calicoraptors. They are more tasteful. < 1236007024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you see? < 1236007031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Calicoraptors. They are more tasteful. <-- ? < 1236007110 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was partially referring to the (according to WP) US term for this cat-colorization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tortie-flame.jpg -- but you can interpret it as you like. < 1236007197 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what to make of the summary. It says "Tortoiseshell Cat. -- tortoiseshells have no white fur" but the cat in question does have some white. Unless it's just an overexposed photo, but I don't think so. < 1236007296 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/abominations.txt -- my 'cut'-based approach for separating the speaker's nickname didn't really understand a CTCP ACTIONy comment, but on the other hand it looks much more hilarious that way. < 1236007324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDD < 1236007337 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1236007380 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You are the undisputed abomination-leader, though. < 1236007395 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, what? < 1236007399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I abomin all the time. < 1236007405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://zem.fi/~fis/abominations.txt. < 1236007406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A happy accident. < 1236007463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Hello < 1236007464 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well. < 1236007475 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi there < 1236007491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, read IWC? < 1236007503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x_x < 1236007518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I was asking first this time... That is much better < 1236007526 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AYEEEH < 1236007602 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see kyros's logic is impeccable as usual < 1236007653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed a good summary of what I was going to say < 1236007675 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a good summary of the annotation, i see < 1236007695 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, given a certain leap in logic < 1236007704 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, i mean < 1236007718 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stands to reason that's also a good summary of the annotation. < 1236007732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1236007734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1236007773 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you really need to work on your logic :D < 1236007882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stands to reason that I don't < 1236007932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X = it stands to reason that X. < 1236007932 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well then we agree < 1236007934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In X. < 1236007978 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it stands to reason that you have not understood today's IWC. < 1236007979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, X therefore Y, Y therefore X < 1236008015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stands to reason that it stands to reason < 1236008037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'??җ??Ati???ը?k?֣?"H9?[Ä>??\GF?4?<$F?` < 1236008037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : y`W???׃?? < 1236008038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ??r%??3?hD?????T?????4?U?Ž5`?$?9aAEY?3c??jl¨jWq?? G??=?JL???49W?,户??͎x?k??m@5s????]??C ?ʪBɊ׌?b5\??I??kNfK? < 1236008041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : lI??? < 1236008043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ~??ސ˺??R=??J?!s?u??(]I$[?"h`f?? S????X* ?0≞?]%??CGL???ϼJ??݅?n?5?E'E?????' < 1236008046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gc?'?(?J˿X???L???OLY?W?™T??V?R$D*?8g??89f??Z?#u?YAs ?JydZWǵ"?3??-?\?"??? < 1236008047 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm mezzacotta hall of fame is picking up again < 1236008049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't dump binary data on irc... < 1236008049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : o&?#!v???>?~?ڑ?n? ?|<=??G????:[}???????????4'Rnl???G??l?UrbfV??Xqɘ????,?wb?u?Iv???o???`#J ???#?N?.?DS»q?,u0???F?h"????(F?6?ރ????i?????;???????L ?3?>? < 1236008052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, stop it < 1236008053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :V???[Y?ރ0o?f < 1236008055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...stands to reason. < 1236008056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant to put that before but failed. < 1236008057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1236008061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh honestly, get yourself a decent client :P < 1236008068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely it could filter out garbage? < 1236008068 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume that contains some unicode < 1236008073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually it did < 1236008074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, that's longer than I intended. < 1236008079 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was still spammy < 1236008082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my terminal font is smaller, see < 1236008131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fun thing to annoy users with default irssi settings: /exec -o echo -e \\007 < 1236008139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :adjust for your client syntax < 1236008145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1236008164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know if +c filters that < 1236008168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'd be a nice flooding script < 1236008171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+c filters colours and bold and such < 1236008179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just tack a bunch of \\007s on to your regular flood message < 1236008184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, did your client beep? < 1236008188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1236008191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1236008193 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I also need a new computer. What should I get? < 1236008195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's a gui one < 1236008201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's unlikely to react to terminal codes < 1236008201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, mine filters it < 1236008207 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1236008210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+c filters all non-printable-unicode < 1236008211 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a black hole. that should have maximal information density. < 1236008211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1236008214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, apart from things like \1 < 1236008220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm certain mirc versions *did* beep on \007 iirc < 1236008231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also \\007 is just to escape it to echo... < 1236008236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and bash) < 1236008249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, mirc emulates a terminal pretty much < 1236008255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the select-is-copy behaviour < 1236008273 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, +c doesn't. I saw a box saying [0722] in what you pasted above. Which is not printable < 1236008286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1236008297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ab < 1236008302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See anything there? < 1236008305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess \7 isn't copyable./ < 1236008306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes: ab < 1236008310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :har har < 1236008330 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "want" is to "need" as "theory" is to "fact" ... once you start getting technical, they're all the same :P < 1236008333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, byte 7 isn't copyable < 1236008353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err that was ambiguous < 1236008354 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :necessity is the mother of death, as i might say more often. < 1236008355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anwyay < 1236008356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway* < 1236008452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "want" is to "need" as "theory" is to "fact" ... once you start getting technical, they're all the same :P < 1236008461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that kind of thinking is unscientific and ultimately destructive < 1236008477 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : also, their children are shaped like elongated eggs < 1236008481 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but are they kosher? < 1236008499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh lawd < 1236008512 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not put the israelis on that idea < 1236008580 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no clue whether that is grammatical < 1236008745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think so < 1236008770 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : wow, #macosx is so pointless to be in. it's all random chatter about bullshit and cannabis, and not one bit of os x talk < 1236008782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me guess, you're going to < 1236008786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take "bullshit" literally < 1236008790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c/d < 1236008791 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it means cannabis in some foreign language < 1236008799 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WRONG! < 1236008806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah yes, the veritable "Macosx plant". < 1236008809 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er what's c/d? < 1236008813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirm/deny < 1236008835 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, i managed to comply without understanding < 1236008972 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:05:47 it's like trying to break your toaster < 1236008972 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:05:50 you can do it, but who does < 1236008979 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your children, obviously. < 1236009058 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: I'm more worried about the unholy scramjet-equipped cyborg pigeons, an abomination against nature. < 1236009073 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well the question here is whether scramjets can evolve... < 1236009109 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might want to go via a dragon stage... < 1236009221 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : my brain doesn't mentally parse the invisible < 1236009224 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine neither < 1236009231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1236009619 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that concludes my logreading. you should now be safe for a while, at least unless you say anything. < 1236010070 0 :ski__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything. < 1236010191 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may or may not now still be safe. anyhow, food. < 1236010231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Ⱒ GLAGOLITIC CAPITAL LETTER SPIDERY HA | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1236010579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1236010584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what are you trying to do? < 1236010590 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my reaction exactly < 1236010595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see [2C22] in that topic < 1236010596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, it's a GLAGOLITIC CAPITAL LETTER SPIDERY HA. < 1236010598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did I do wrong? < 1236010603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaning you used some control code < 1236010607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://benfry.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/spidery-170x205.png < 1236010607 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1236010609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1236010614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a GLAGOLITIC CAPITAL LETTER SPIDERY HA. < 1236010620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ehird has changed the topic to: [2C22] GLAGOLITIC CAPITAL LETTER SPIDERY HA | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=N;O=D < 1236010622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the character that mocks you. < 1236010637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: control char / unicode learn2differenciate < 1236010654 0 :Asztal^_^!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/cjb/glagolitic.png ? < 1236010658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*differentiate < 1236010660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, does any font have the complete unicode? < 1236010662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal^_^: no. < 1236010664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: code2000. < 1236010691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is that symbol some phonetic one btw? < 1236010695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like it could be < 1236010703 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that looks like the kind of letter you wouldn't like to meet in a dark alley < 1236010704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's glagolitic whatever that is < 1236010709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1236010714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glagolitic_alphabet < 1236010729 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1236010735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh I see < 1236010923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has conversation with human-that-fails-turing-test < 1236010943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://www.satisfice.com/blog/archives/199) < 1236011043 0 :ski__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm .. is there any voynich glyphs in unicode ? < 1236011053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski__: don't think so < 1236011055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be nice < 1236011059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask the conscript peeps? < 1236011108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to tell this person I own the website I'm on < 1236011114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wonder how he'll react. < 1236011169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No response. I guess this ain't covered in the script. < 1236011192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I am sorry but it is owned by somebody else. :) How may I help you today?" < 1236011196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to be enraged! < 1236011284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just to verify, do you own Webgreeter.com?" < 1236011288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like hell I do! < 1236011417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I clicked away and lost the window :( < 1236012315 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1236012763 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-24-250.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1236012839 0 :Jophish!n=Jophish@80-47-69-80.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1236013981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ski__, voynich? < 1236014008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :voynich manuscript < 1236014011 0 :ski__!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1236014014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript < 1236014016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1236014017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap < 1236014153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk for a few hours (out of town) < 1236014522 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1236014594 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1236014880 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1236015073 0 :DH__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1236015118 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1236015453 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1236019602 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-47-126.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1236020348 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1236020516 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1236020760 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1236020790 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1236020882 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1236021395 0 :poiuy_qwert!n=poiuyqwe@bas2-toronto47-1242398954.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1236021624 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1236021747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:17:39 #define LintSucksSoGodDamnMuch (void)printf < 1236021749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1236021751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am funny. < 1236021970 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1236022198 0 :Impomatic!n=John@nat67.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1236023041 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-173.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1236023350 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1236024568 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm having a bit of trouble implementing a Modulo operator in brainfuck < 1236024579 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would anybody be able to point me to am example? < 1236024659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the wiki < 1236024664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lemme find it < 1236024669 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great < 1236024674 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks very much < 1236024678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jophish: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainfuck_algorithms#Divmod_algorithm < 1236024688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does division too but should be easy to hack to your needs < 1236024713 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1236024719 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a livesaver! < 1236024731 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-112-225.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1236024734 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have been doing some stupidly long algorithm for this < 1236024746 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, is this for your misson-critical application at work or something < 1236024757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jophish: :) < 1236024758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tombom: haha < 1236024769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he programs airplane flight systems in bf < 1236024811 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did you find out? < 1236024822 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's stable! < 1236024843 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the resons I chose it. plus it is very portable < 1236024850 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's not to like! < 1236024882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1236025235 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1236025375 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, having this short algorithm makes it much harder to form my code into a funny shape < 1236025554 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1236025832 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1236025849 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1236025865 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1236025983 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1236026163 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1236026338 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1236026874 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1236027459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/1977 oh god yes < 1236027463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1236027597 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1236028211 0 :Impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... < 1236028879 0 :Impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've just about finished implementing a minimal Forth in Redcode. 36 Forth words in 85 Redcode instructions. < 1236028915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neat! < 1236028919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we see? :) < 1236028934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how do you run redcode things like that? < 1236028940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can pmars run 'standalone' programs? < 1236028963 0 :Impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using exmars streams, which has extra opcodes for i/o < 1236028976 0 :Impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARES also has i/o, but implemented differently < 1236028994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah... < 1236029046 0 :Impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with a few macros, it'd be possible to make them equivalent. It's possible to check which mars a program is being run in. < 1236029116 0 :Impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to make a few compromises though :-( E.g. rename a few words + -> plus, * -> times, etc < 1236029121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.macosiphone.co.cc/ <- macintosh system 7 on an iphone :-| < 1236029124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Impomatic: aw, why? < 1236029439 0 :Impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: because I'm implementing using macros, which have a limited character set < 1236029459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1236031797 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1236032540 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What is the area of the largest rectangle that can be inscribed in the ellipse 4x^2 + 9y^2 = 36?" < 1236032586 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My method: Note that 4x^2 + 9y^2 = 36 is actually a circle. Do the obvious. Note that it's an ellipse instead. < 1236032586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 < 1236032698 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the number after 7. < 1236032709 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you took that from A013655. < 1236032723 0 :Impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"mov.i #1,1" < 1236032826 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1236033075 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=arvid@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1236034008 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"..." < 1236034184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kerlo: xD < 1236034801 0 :Ilari_!n=user@a88-113-39-59.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035018 0 :comexk!n=comex@teklinks.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035031 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-47-126.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035111 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035113 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035113 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035113 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035114 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035115 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035117 0 :comexk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035117 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035119 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035119 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035119 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035119 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035119 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035119 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035123 0 :ski__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :brown.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1236035152 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-47-126.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :comexk!n=comex@teklinks.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :Jophish!n=Jophish@80-47-69-80.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@143.248.133.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :Asztal!n=moo@chunkybacon.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :kerlo!n=ihope@normish.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-128-205.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@tavi.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035152 0 :ski__!n=md9slj@remote3.student.chalmers.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035255 0 :SimonRC_!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035401 0 :oklopol!n=nnscript@a91-153-121-248.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1236035409 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how you doing < 1236035452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The main contender, ReiserFS, dropped out of the race because its creator decided to pursue other interests" < 1236035453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XDD < 1236035455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: fine kthx u < 1236035553 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i failed my first exam < 1236035561 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i had to change my life philosophy < 1236035570 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which took a while, thus the offline time < 1236035589 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(nah i was just too lazy to open a new server window) < 1236035600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wait did u rly failers :| < 1236035619 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1236035631 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1236035639 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on the definition of failing < 1236035644 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by my definition yes < 1236035651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so you got 99%? < 1236035664 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4. (3) fail, go bad, give way, die, give out, conk out, go, break, break down -- (stop operating or functioning; "The engine finally went"; "The car died on the road"; "The bus we travelled in broke down on the way to town"; "The coffee maker broke"; "The engine failed on the way to town"; "her eyesight went after the accident") < 1236035683 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Did your exam CONK OUT? < 1236035763 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i couldn't integrate sqrt(x^2 + 1) without using the formulas we were given, mainly because i got tired halfway through; anyway resulted in me almost tearing the paper in half and leaving, i then removed the whole answer to the exercise, and did another question instead, managed to remember a definition wrong and proved the wrong thing. < 1236035780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/exercise/question < 1236035808 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Client Excited" < 1236035818 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so at least they should give me a zero from that, so at max i can get 75%, which as a grade would be like 3/5 < 1236035822 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1236035827 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty much a fail by any definition < 1236035846 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a fail by the "0 grade equals fail" definition, which in some sense is the official one. < 1236035861 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, true, i didn't fail the course < 1236035874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: 75% isn't bad. < 1236035880 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail the battle, not the war. < 1236035881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by which i mean that's pretty damn good. < 1236035883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1236035891 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm no it's my first non 5/5 < 1236035899 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's very bad. < 1236035945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, just < 1236035946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up < 1236035946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1236035948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P < 1236035958 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway if i fail more of these exams i have piled up here, i will probably stop caring about my grades completely < 1236035959 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1236035979 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i try my best, and it just isn't good enough. < 1236035983 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's < 1236035985 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1236035987 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depressing. < 1236036007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah 75% is practically earth shattering failure < 1236036009 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: heh, that's what people keep telling me, i don't understand why :D < 1236036011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should just go home man < 1236036016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and like < 1236036017 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've got some people here who do the whole "non-perfection == not acceptable" thing re grading, but personally I've never really seen the point. < 1236036018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill yourself < 1236036031 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's a shattering failure considering how much i did for the course. < 1236036041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahaha oklopol you amuse me. < 1236036049 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1236036070 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, you have a budding career as an ehird-amuser there. < 1236036081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1236036087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll give you food! < 1236036090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no point, just an arbitrary goal. < 1236036112 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't this web-based study-result-browsamator compute grade point averages? Silly. It can in the PDF reports, but not in the web interface. < 1236036117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: soooo ... don't do it again? < 1236036117 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something i decided to do that isn't all that destructive < 1236036119 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1236036120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty simple < 1236036130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was like 50% i'd understand < 1236036135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not going to happen again now is it :P < 1236036136 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe "averaging" is such a computationally intensive algorithm they can only do it offline. < 1236036161 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 50%? you won't pass the course with a 50% < 1236036163 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In most of our exams 50 % of points is the line between 0 and 1. < 1236036172 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximately, anyway. < 1236036177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: thus, I said, if it was 50% i'd understand. < 1236036180 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay you will usually pass it with exactly that, as fizzie pointed out < 1236036187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not, it's 75%. < 1236036201 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is this PDF report in Swedish? I don't get it. < 1236036221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one gets swedish < 1236036262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one is swedish < 1236036266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wished ais here < 1236036269 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wishes < 1236036367 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Personally I only get a a-failure-am-I feeling out of grades that are <3. (Less than three, not a-heart-symbol.) < 1236036405 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've got some of those too, which is why I don't like looking at these reports. < 1236036416 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: anyway the point is pretty much just that after you get 5/5 from your first 6 or so exams, it's easy to go "hey, maybe i could get a 5/5 from EVERYTHING", and the obsession begins. < 1236036430 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess it could go like that. < 1236036461 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did a few courses during high school tho, didn't really study for them, so i have a few 3's already < 1236036472 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1236036479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: all(5/5)-1 isn't too bad either though is it huh. < 1236036480 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(average was 5/5 already when i started though) < 1236036485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay i understand it's not pretty < 1236036488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i kinda sympathize there < 1236036542 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection refused < 1236036566 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aesthetics are important. i love looking at numbers. < 1236036585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: okay, make a pattern out of your grades < 1236036586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :liek < 1236036590 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1236036595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 5 5 5 3 4 4 5 4 3 3 4 5 < 1236036597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno < 1236036604 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :333333333333333333333333333 < 1236036616 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: is that pi? < 1236036619 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1236036620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 2 2 1 < 1236036621 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1236036631 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: i remember seeing it somewhere < 1236036638 0 :Ilari_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Ilari < 1236036645 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did euler's constant go then? < 1236036652 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same with 2's? < 1236036681 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1236036685 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more complicated < 1236036689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also how is that pi < 1236036695 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2718171817181718171817181718171817181718171817 etc < 1236036713 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right right < 1236036720 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crap, that's wrong < 1236036733 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :27182818281828182818281828 < 1236036742 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1236036747 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1236036766 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how dare you make my randomness funny! < 1236036982 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1236037023 0 :Jophish!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1236038076 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)