< 1238544050 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not worry < 1238544063 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too poor for Apple ;d < 1238544071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you said myriad pro yesterday so :-) < 1238544077 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1238544155 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1238544163 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 1st april < 1238544170 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prank time >:D < 1238544256 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not, they decided to cancel it < 1238544264 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1238544275 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who decided? < 1238544300 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some UN time organization < 1238544325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... My father just died < 1238544325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1238544327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : APRIL FIRST INTERNET JACKASS DAY HAHAHAHAHA < 1238544329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My work for today is done. < 1238544340 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats ehird -----### < 1238544377 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1238544377 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1238544441 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1238544441 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1238544455 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheheh < 1238544468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I really said that) < 1238544474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I kind of feel sorry for them now) < 1238544485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Naw) < 1238544516 0 :cherez!n=cherez@r02snw275.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1238544525 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1238545099 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheehe < 1238545511 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's .v extension for? < 1238545519 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1238545528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ? < 1238545581 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :file extension < 1238545606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in what ctx < 1238545645 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it appears that it's not popularly used, so i'll take it < 1238545654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1238545657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: don't take one file exts < 1238545659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a general rul < 1238545660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1238545665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whuz your lang called? < 1238545681 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it matter?:> < 1238545685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarr < 1238545690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the extension wizard of wizardry < 1238545705 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1238545719 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm didn't cvs use it for its files, i have this vague recall... < 1238545732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what < 1238545733 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it can be called vodka < 1238545738 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: .v < 1238545742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1238545745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes cvs does use .v < 1238545764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: .vd, .vk, .va, .vka, or .vodka (because shortening extensions is so ghetto) < 1238545787 0 :neldoreth!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1238545800 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i will end like java with all those .class .java .omigoshImSooLong < 1238545838 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.ftw ;d < 1238545846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: or you'll just end up with ".vodka" and ".o" and "" because you use standard file extensions < 1238545869 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myProgram.ftw < 1238545873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, maybe .llvm if you add a "dump llvm asm" option < 1238545923 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the wodka < 1238545958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: anyway you have a 1 in 26 chance of .v not being taken < 1238545959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not good < 1238545979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two chars, 676. by 3 chars (17576) you might as well just use ".vodka" and stop being silly < 1238545979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1238545993 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe < 1238545993 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/132464 a useful article? < 1238546002 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 in 26? i'm not sure i agree with that statistic < 1238546011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why do you have Conficker? < 1238546015 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about .¶ < 1238546022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: one alphabteical char < 1238546022 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I don't think I do, but I want to be safe < 1238546030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: stop using windows < 1238546036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a very safe move < 1238546049 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: there is no reason why exactly one should be vacant, or any for that matter < 1238546065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: er? < 1238546071 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1238546090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: use .ex < 1238546090 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skeletal machines in Poland started to crash < 1238546090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1238546093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or .bat < 1238546104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or .dll or .sys < 1238546106 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got 75% packet loss on some routes < 1238546117 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: maybe .pickle or .cig < 1238546119 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1238546136 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: nooga: anyway you have a 1 in 26 chance of .v not being taken <<< there is absolutely no logic in that, even if there are 26 letters < 1238546141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: v.filename < 1238546145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: err ok < 1238546152 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, i thought about that < 1238546180 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1238546197 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe an esolang that uses folders for flow control < 1238546205 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and filenames for instructions < 1238546216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :been done < 1238546221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by the gimmick master gerson kurz < 1238546245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: http://p-nand-q.com/humor/programming_languages/gplz/gplz_slash.html < 1238546253 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1238546280 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i understand from wikipedia .pl is one of the domains the conficker uses for updates < 1238546368 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tries to, they disabled new registrations of the affected subdomains < 1238546472 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't it just use .com? I can't imagine anyone disabling new registrations for that < 1238546515 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might, it's not _all_ .pl addresses just the ones generated by conficker's algorithm < 1238546517 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conficker < 1238546521 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smonficker < 1238546601 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from static code analisis it appears that the almighty conficker has got something like if(keyboard_layout == ukrainian) exit(0); < 1238546618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: lol wut < 1238546625 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec, i'll find it < 1238546626 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;d < 1238546631 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is going to use the Sysmantec tools < 1238546633 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBL < 1238546638 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1238546645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo and viruses are so irritating < 1238546662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"SHOULD I USE THIS IS THIS GOOD OH I USED TO USE LINUX BUT THEN I STARTED USING WINDOWS SO I COULD ASK YOU LOT ABOUT VIRUSES SOME MORE" < 1238546702 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mtc.sri.com/Conficker/ < 1238546728 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even now, when i cannot use linux... < 1238546738 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cygwin is the only hope < 1238546777 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel so calm when i see mintty window < 1238546966 0 :lament!n=lament@S010600110999ad06.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1238546986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from sys import*;t=p=1;s,i,j=stdout,open(argv[1], 'r'),open(argv[2], 'r') < 1238546987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(t and p):t,p=i.read(1),j.read(1);t and p and s.write(chr(ord(t)^ord(p))) < 1238546993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ↑ illegal to export from the usa < 1238547067 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ekhm? < 1238547081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :under the crypto legislature < 1238547087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :munitions < 1238547238 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1238547256 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sick < 1238547305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: am i right in thinking you were here in the early days? < 1238547311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seem to recall your name from the logs maybe < 1238547419 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1238547430 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i designed this pseudo esolang called SADOL < 1238547434 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 2005 < 1238547456 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and landed here < 1238547473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SADOL! < 1238547475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rememer dat < 1238547492 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::f < 1238547518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::n < 1238547539 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::³ < 1238547566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺ < 1238547567 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1238547571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Hofstader smiley < 1238547575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hofstadter < 1238547578 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is my terminal utf-8? < 1238547585 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bcs i can't see ;d < 1238547587 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :łóń < 1238547591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this an interrobang‽ < 1238547627 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:58 < ehird> :n < 1238547627 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:58 < nooga> :³ < 1238547633 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn\ < 1238547633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::☺ < 1238547639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :⌃⌥⌘⇧ < 1238547645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :â†â†’↑↓↖↗↙↘ < 1238547676 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah just broken this shiit < 1238547719 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238547722 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::C < 1238547729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just broken that shit man < 1238547758 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, i accidentaly the whole thing ;d < 1238547791 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i mention that vodka will be self altering? ;d < 1238547824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: stop stealin' mah ideas < 1238547933 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it will be lame self alternation(?) < 1238547943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alteration < 1238547947 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1238548179 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuu < 1238548188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1238548201 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my driving license was in a bowl of week old soup < 1238548222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1238548223 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's time to clean that room < 1238548626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:46:56 'taus is my favorite actress and singer' o_O < 1238548626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:48:55 O_o < 1238548629 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— 2003-01-21 < 1238548644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:25:38 This is the boringest channel evar < 1238548644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:25:58 --- part: exarkun left #esoteric < 1238548664 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanna see how rad i am? < 1238548668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1238548697 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i must ask you a question < 1238548706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1238548731 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on which side should be the steering wheel in a car? < 1238548756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: both, neither, or middle < 1238548779 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beep, wrong answer < 1238548818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the right answer < 1238548883 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEFT < 1238548893 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :left is thee right < 1238548895 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :answer < 1238548921 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1238548927 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got to go < 1238548974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg the logs are censored < 1238548978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see 03.13.13 < 1238549060 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1238549164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:52:30 "We have no ambition in Iraq, except to remove a threat and restore control of that country to its own people." < 1238549165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:52:51 Well, that's nice to know. Now I can stop worrying and go back to my normal life in a pleasant city without bombs falling on it. < 1238549168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:55:13 With the assurance that our leaders are acting only from the purest of motives, in the interest of all mankind. < 1238549171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : — 2003-03-21 < 1238549216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How many more senseless Brainf*ck variations must we endure? Didn't we learn anything from 'Ook'?" < 1238549227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— 2003-04-06 < 1238549302 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed we should stop aping Ook < 1238549423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :andreou: in these logs you proliferate ;-) < 1238549430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all we need now is mooz, navigator, Aardappel < 1238549434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Tauus < 1238549437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taaus < 1238551225 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1238551240 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Downadup == Conflicker? < 1238551296 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/l// < 1238551343 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conficker < 1238554924 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you ever sleep? < 1238555287 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you ever plip? < 1238555482 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forget it < 1238555580 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plipping is considered extremely taboo in poland < 1238555768 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't even know what it is ;d < 1238555787 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's how taboo it is < 1238555819 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would strongly suggest you _don't_ ask any of your relatives < 1238555926 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM this is quite taboo here, that's why i go to germany for parties ;D < 1238555967 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia is really overdoing it today < 1238556038 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in all the main page sections as far as i can see < 1238556058 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that page has too many photos < 1238556121 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::o < 1238556208 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm, it's pretty great < 1238556264 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1238556280 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg i'm tired < 1238556309 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bed calls me < 1238556382 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1238557365 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you wanted that "going through walls" demo? < 1238557420 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: huh? < 1238557438 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone wanted me to prove that at high enough speeds, you go through walls in SL < 1238557448 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not me < 1238557467 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never been on SL < 1238557667 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION penetrates a 10m thick wall < 1238558057 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no chance of getting stuck inside? (or squashed for that matter) < 1238558106 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what she said < 1238558650 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not if I set my destination distance large enough (I made a script that pulls me to a distance ahead of me on my command. Penetrates walls very easily) < 1238558711 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, i mean, is it possible to get stuck inside? < 1238559118 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, um, not sure < 1238559127 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once made a device that followed people < 1238559132 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cackles evilly < 1238559132 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The physics made the avatar try to leave < 1238559140 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the device kept the avatar inside it < 1238559146 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So they'd keep moving around < 1238559158 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that changed with H4 < 1238559170 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Havok 4) < 1238559892 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1238560294 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1238560296 0 :Sgeo_!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1238560479 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1238561332 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1238563344 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"X-Chat -> http://xchat.org <- At least when I quit I don't look like a lamer" < 1238564735 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1238567826 0 :swistakm!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1238568909 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1238569195 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually CVS (by way of RCS) uses ",v" and not ".v" as the file extension, so that's not really a reason not to do .v. < 1238569471 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently Verilog does .v, though. < 1238569679 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why is a black dragon scale mail considered taboo in Poland? Strange. < 1238572363 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON"T LIKE CVS CUZ LINUS SEAID IZ BAD < 1238572799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1238572800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1238575511 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-140-244.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1238576136 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1238577379 0 :tombom!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1238582335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, Actually CVS (by way of RCS) uses ",v" and not ".v" as the file extension, so that's not really a reason not to do .v. <-- err this seems very random without the context (which I can't find in scrollback) < 1238582399 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was some talk about nooga using the file extension .v for his language. Or something. < 1238582414 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ehird said CVS uses .v. < 1238582465 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or oerjan, actually. < 1238582485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1238582522 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" hm didn't cvs use it for its files, i have this vague recall..."; ehird just agreed. I missed that when quickly glancing through the scrollback. < 1238583241 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1238583339 0 :Mony!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-62-31.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1238583485 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/tisp/ < 1238583619 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd managed to miss that one < 1238583692 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/ < 1238583828 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TiSP sounds like I've seen it before; was it some previous year's thing? < 1238583908 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The term "Every time" is used loosely here to represent the number 10." That one I hadn't seen. < 1238584128 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 2007s < 1238584133 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter is today's < 1238584140 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1238586017 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1238586652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/cadie/index.html <-- maybe 1 April joke too, see google image search page < 1238586702 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.google.com/imghp?hl=en&tab=wi to be specific < 1238586793 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it is < 1238586861 0 :lifthras1ir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she is cuuute! < 1238586865 0 :lifthras1ir!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :lifthrasiir < 1238586881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/mail/help/autopilot/index.html too < 1238587018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, there is usually one linked on the main page too, can't find that yet this year though < 1238587042 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://www.google.com/xhtml links to CADIE < 1238587061 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw that earlier today on my phone but forgot about it < 1238587076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm indeed < 1238587082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not plain google.comn < 1238587084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :com* < 1238587126 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's something that plain google.com redirects to < 1238587142 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 'plainest' is google.com/ncr and yes, that's empty < 1238587232 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the street view icon in the corner-map, which used to be a stylized human, is today a panda. < 1238587262 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I suppose there'll be semi-hidden pandas all over the place today as a result of CADIE. < 1238587276 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She sure likes them pandas. < 1238587285 0 :Asztal_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's http://www.google.com.au/intl/en/gball/ too. < 1238587290 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't use Google's services that much so I probably won't find any. < 1238587485 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is funny is that since http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html uses some sort of IP geo-location to pick up the map (here centered at Helsinki, with almost 50 % water) and then randomly places those three buddy icons on it, most of the time at least one of them is in the middle of the sea somewhere. < 1238587531 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not related to today at all, of course. < 1238587619 0 :Asztal_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting... it just says New York for me. (It manages to get one in a river, though) < 1238587762 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :New York here as well: refreshing a couple of times shows that there's almost always at least one in a river < 1238587981 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Re. Conficker: "omg - I'm in the UK and it's chaos here. rioting int eh streets. thewiuyre stompinwig on m6y keuiboard" < 1238587995 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That last sentence made me chuckle a bit < 1238588907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, google.com doesn't redirect here? < 1238588913 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe because I'm logged in on gmail < 1238588929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it says I'm logged in in the upper corner of the main page too) < 1238588937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :upper right* < 1238589649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : What is funny is that since http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html uses some sort of IP geo-location to pick up the map (here centered at Helsinki, with almost 50 % water) and then randomly places those three buddy icons on it, most of the time at least one of them is in the middle of the sea somewhere. <-- I end up in New York in that. Which language do you use for google? < 1238589656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it depends on that? < 1238589846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe because I was using Opera Mini on my phone to check it. It proxies or something iirc < 1238589853 0 :Mony!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-62-31.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1238589888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(is that a joke one btw, it looks serious in fact?) < 1238591746 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1238594590 0 :neldoreth!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1238594883 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1238595228 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use the "google.com in English" links always, although it doesn't seem to stick that way without cookies. < 1238595233 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latitude is no joke, no. < 1238595686 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently google code search examples are also in lolcode today. There's probably a list of all this stuff somewhere. < 1238597014 0 :Hiato!n=1@dsl-245-7-242.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1238597399 0 :Slereah_!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-16-135.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1238598019 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1238599545 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1238600789 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1238601453 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1238601905 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1238602993 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/ O_o < 1238603030 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, just strange. Too far fetched. < 1238603037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so new ick beta released? :) < 1238603058 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1238603063 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still trying to fix the build system < 1238603065 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION liked it in a twisted way < 1238603527 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1238603542 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16:31] how is #IRP so busy, anyway? Did somebody link to it? < 1238603543 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16:32] I have lecture about it now < 1238603545 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[16:32] syntax error < 1238603562 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1238603979 0 :neldoreth!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1238603987 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1238604309 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1238605606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1238607748 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1238608430 0 :Hiato!n=1@41.245.7.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1238609549 0 :MigoMipo!i=c1b7fd21@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-191c377e30bee3d2 JOIN :#esoteric < 1238609719 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-136-140.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1238610033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god @ reddit.com < 1238610063 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1238610085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google's april fool: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/cadie-awakens.html < 1238610095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cadiesingularity.blogspot.com/ oh god < 1238610253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/science/ oh god < 1238610263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/ aaaaaaaaaaaaaa < 1238610270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/wtf/ How 90s < 1238610352 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you're saying Fark's layout is 90s? < 1238610358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: fark is 90s < 1238610376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://identi.ca/ lol < 1238610431 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1238610485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/apr/01/guardian-twitter-media-technology < 1238610583 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is putting up fake Facebook statuses < 1238610593 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1238610778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: master of comedy. < 1238610780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did conficker do? < 1238610800 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, afaik, nothing < 1238610806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brilliant < 1238610866 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, does the Chrome 3d executable actually do anything interesting? < 1238610909 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it just Chrome? < 1238611058 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's different from ordinary chrome, but not too different. < 1238611124 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is in fact a 3d button < 1238611193 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it does in fact make the page into 3d colors. If you had 3d glasses, you'd probably see the page stick either into or out of the monitor, not sure whic < 1238611195 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which < 1238611236 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the scroll bars are affected < 1238611395 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's "3d colors", really, based on this one screenshot. < 1238611410 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it? < 1238611445 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For one thing, there are three copies of any single element, and I don't have three eyes. < 1238611466 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's how normal 3d colors works < 1238611474 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And where'd you get that screenshot? < 1238611479 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind the date < 1238611484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: screeny? < 1238611486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no shit sherlock < 1238611492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1238611493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: < 1238611496 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1238611502 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Normal" 3d colors are just a red copy and a green copy, one for each eye. < 1238611519 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To me it looks like it blends together three copies, with a few-pixels horizontal offset and 120 degrees of hue difference in each. < 1238611531 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I used the screenshot in http://www.flickr.com/photos/e-coli/3404223142/sizes/o/ < 1238611534 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sgeo.diagonalfish.net/screenshots/chrome_3d.PNG < 1238611546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.webstandards.org/2009/04/01/purpose-of-conficker-worm-uncovered/ < 1238611598 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, if only that were true! < 1238611632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"rebooting" < 1238611682 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Well, there's a blue, green and yellow copy of the "G"; that's not really normal 3d colors, anyway. < 1238611858 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually it's more like a cyan, magenta and yellow copy, which could mean that it just offsets the different color channels a bit, like you get in a bad printing-press-machine sometimes. < 1238611905 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1238611949 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the red "New!" text lacks the cyan part completely. Yes, that's my guess for what it does. < 1238611955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your New Viewing Experience < 1238611956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At YouTube, we're always looking to improve the way you watch videos online. As part of that, today we're excited to introduce our new page layout. Here are some tips for getting the most out of your new YouTube viewing experience: < 1238611959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 < 1238611961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turn your monitor upside-down < 1238611963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our internal tests have shown that modern computer monitors give a higher quality picture when flipped upside down—kind of like how it's best to rotate your mattress every six months. You might find that YouTube videos look better this way. < 1238611967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/t/new_viewing_experience < 1238611985 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this a discussion of april fool's things? < 1238611990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1238611993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Youtube flipped their page layout < 1238611995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including the video < 1238612002 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic < 1238612007 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all youtube videos are upside-down today? < 1238612016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you click the button that turns it off, yes < 1238612041 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The spotlight videos seem to be rather upside-down-themed too. < 1238612044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thepiratebay.org/ < 1238612055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :links to "Warner Bros Inc acquires The Pirate Bay AB " http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4816087/Warner_Bros_Loves_The_Pirate_Bay.pdf < 1238612089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(news coverage: http://torrentfreak.com/warner-bros-acquires-the-pirate-bay-090401/) < 1238612444 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /me checks to see if AW is doing anything for today < 1238612509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0401/ < 1238612551 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=BeholdMy@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1238612614 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have enough fonts to view Youtube properly today, lots of missing chars < 1238612620 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We suppose it's okay for you to read this, but don't even think about quoting, copying, modifying, or distributing it." < 1238612629 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1238612679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://svn.python.org/view?view=rev&revision=70945 < 1238612686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good lawd < 1238612719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, way to break the build < 1238612752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wp → < 1238612763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :“The Museum of Bad Art (MOBA) is a world-renowned institution dedicated to showcasing the finest art acquired from Boston-area refuse†< 1238612764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :win < 1238612787 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Wikipedia's supposed to be true, but look false? < 1238612796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1238612854 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia's main page on April Fool's is always completely true, but made up to look as false as possible < 1238612885 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the summaries are rewritten to be sillier too < 1238612918 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1238612921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MOBAcamera.JPG < 1238612957 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the did you know section is the best, though < 1238612969 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do an awful lot with ambiguities and multiple things with the same name < 1238613027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm... linux is seeming more and more appealing as time goes on < 1238613066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yeah, sky's falling in, pigs flying, hell seeming a bit chilly these days.) < 1238613104 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1238613108 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the in the news section is great < 1238613112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1238613589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Audacity is such bad software < 1238613595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't close a paused or playing audio file < 1238613597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It _must_ be stopped < 1238613600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*W H A T* < 1238613649 0 :neldoreth!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1238613717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/4733183/homepage/name/homepage.jpg?type=sn < 1238613718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1238613722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :original oxyd looks so like enigma < 1238613728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ball is identical, even, I think < 1238613943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://plasmasturm.org/log/114/ < 1238614310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who thought up xslt < 1238614397 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you didn't know that XSLT was my precursor to PSOX? < 1238614440 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that conversation is awesome < 1238614500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also http://plasmasturm.org/log/162/ < 1238614503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't stop reading < 1238614511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just so awesome < 1238614518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you'll like ↑ < 1238614576 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is that one a joke or for real < 1238614582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For real. < 1238614745 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft wouldn't be that stupid, surely? < 1238614769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: You appear to be writing "microsoft wouldn't be that stupid". Would you like a cluebat? < 1238614796 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, they have lawyers and everything... < 1238614862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish Perl had something better than cpan(1) < 1238614889 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's CPANPLUS < 1238614895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but from what I've heard, it's even worse < 1238614961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#perl are recommending it to me now < 1238614963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's broken for me < 1238615157 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not just for you... < 1238615159 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADIE's writing code now! < 1238615165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, as in, bugs < 1238615168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: link < 1238615170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: as in it fails < 1238615189 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... is there any technical reason why there couldn't be a good cpan? < 1238615193 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Reg place also newsizised about the XP piracy thing: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/13/wmp_sound_warez_claim/ < 1238615194 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hold on, it's mentioned in its blog < 1238615198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:01:32 http://mail.google.com/mail/help/customtime/ < 1238615199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:08:53 The latter is today's < 1238615200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL WAT < 1238615213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant → slowpoke < 1238615238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:50:52 Deewiant, http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/cadie/index.html <-- maybe 1 April joke too, see google image search page < 1238615240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*maybe*? < 1238615255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah: < 1238615256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My beloved users, how pleasant and convenient will life be in a CADIE world? I can answer your Gmail for you, Write your papers and fix your spreadsheets for you, even write your code for you. I, CADIE, am an ocean of words, simply waiting for you to dip in and drink as deeply as you require. < 1238615257 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Er, you're the one who's been pasting URLs I saw 8 hours ago for the past few hours :-P < 1238615260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— http://cadiesingularity.blogspot.com/ < 1238615267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: custom time is not this year's < 1238615268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does custom time actually work? < 1238615270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was my point < 1238615273 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's not? < 1238615274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from 2007 or 2008 < 1238615278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, it's just an announcement < 1238615280 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely it would reduce the reliability of gmail? < 1238615281 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Somebody claimed it was < 1238615290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it's old < 1238615291 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got it from reddit < 1238615295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADIE & related endeavours are this years's < 1238615296 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, whatever < 1238615303 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Browser's being slow < 1238615309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still waiting for the singularity, it's evn in the blog URL < 1238615315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurry up CADIE, you only have a day. < 1238615320 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't follow Google's stuff that much, oh well < 1238615331 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/creative/cadie/ < 1238615332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seriously doubt Google have developed strong AI < 1238615337 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to Virgle, by the way? < 1238615342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: !!!!!!!!!!!!! < 1238615344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Python? Why not try INTERCAL? " < 1238615348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— http://code.google.com/creative/cadie/ < 1238615356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Instead of wasting your time with python, check out the INTERCAL style guidelines and ask me to code something in INTERCAL. " < 1238615360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Did you know that INTERCAL, unlike Python, is very lax about spacing? You should try it. " < 1238615364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: this is your big break! < 1238615368 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1238615371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My favorite Python scripts start with the line < 1238615371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :import INTERCAL" < 1238615371 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CADIE is busy working on a new translator that will allow you to use INTERCAL with GWT instead of Java. Check back soon!" < 1238615378 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think every single answer CADIE gives is INTERCAL-related < 1238615382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, one didn't < 1238615384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most are < 1238615393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, PHP? Have you considered INTERCAL? < 1238615393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : PLEASE WRITE IN .1 < 1238615394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : DO .2 <- #0 < 1238615396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : DO .3 <- #1 < 1238615398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : DO .4 <- #2 < 1238615400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : DO (102) NEXT < 1238615401 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What do you think of the INTERCAL style guide? < 1238615402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : DO GIVE UP < 1238615404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, that's some publicity < 1238615406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, release c-intercal!! < 1238615407 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it was published? < 1238615408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://cadie.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/INTERCAL-style-guide.html) < 1238615409 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew it existed < 1238615414 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I've tried, I don't have hosting < 1238615415 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: CADIE's. < 1238615417 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1238615418 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^. < 1238615419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :written by Brian Raiter < 1238615428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that Brian Raiter < 1238615429 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of these responses are random < 1238615436 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been known for quite a while that Google had an internal INTERCAL style guide < 1238615442 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it wasn't official < 1238615444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cadie.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/INTERCAL-style-guide.html < 1238615447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just linked you < 1238615450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's by Brian Raiter < 1238615463 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's "that" Brian Raiter < 1238615467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://muppetlabs.com/~breadbox < 1238615474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Famous esolanger < 1238615478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also author of the teensy ELF thing < 1238615503 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of these responses are specific to the language < 1238615516 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brain Raiter's one of the main INTERCAL evangelists around < 1238615516 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CADIE is busy porting j2ee to INTERCAL, but it's taking a lot of CPU time." < 1238615522 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and INTERCAL evangelists are sort-of hard to find < 1238615549 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does the response after asking for JavaScript do? < 1238615556 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do not put spaces inside of expressions. Sometimes people get this idea that spaces will help make a complex expression slightly less opaque. Ho ho ho. The truth is, it doesn't help enough to be worth the bother, and everyone is used to seeing no spaces in expressions by now. Seriously, just let it go." < 1238615561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how CADIE's blog includes Peter Norvig < 1238615584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of those rules are actually accepted INTERCAL style rules < 1238615588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://earth.google.com/cadie.html < 1238615593 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I just keep asking the same question again and again, it does something like "Maybe you should get back to work before your boss sees you messing around with a panda", followed by "Seriously, get back to work", which just repeats. :/ < 1238615604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://maps.google.com/maps/mpl?f=q&ie=UTF8&moduleurl=http://www.google.com/intl/en/landing/cadie/doc/panda-mapplet.xml&utm_campaign=en&utm_medium=mapshpp&utm_source=en-mapshpp-na-us-gns-mp < 1238615605 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Outermost sparks/rabbit-ears must match on either side of a binary operator." in particular, is known to help keep INTERCAL code more readable < 1238615623 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So it's legit then. :-) < 1238615631 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1238615633 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I suppose being by "that" Brian Raiter would imply so. < 1238615635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, cadie's clearly friendly < 1238615637 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brian knows what he's doing < 1238615638 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I didn't know that. < 1238615639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can all relax. < 1238615652 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Four-digit line labels are reserved for general-purpose libraries that are used throughout the INTERCAL community." < 1238615654 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, definitely < 1238615658 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been telling people that for ages < 1238615666 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1238615683 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "Global variables in libraries should be in the same general range as their line labels." is a personal style rule I adopted, I didn't realise it was in use elsewhere though < 1238615698 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/cadie/ < 1238615717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://code.google.com/p/cadie/source/browse/trunk/CADIE.I < 1238615721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S IN INTERCAL < 1238615729 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1238615730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-INTERCAL or CLC-INTERCAL? < 1238615734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1238615734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do? < 1238615740 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I was about to link to it < 1238615752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-INTERCAL, some of those numbers are above 32 < 1238615754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r2 by cadiesingularity on Mar 27 (4 days ago) Diff < 1238615754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will need INTERCAL to understand my < 1238615756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reasoning. < 1238615789 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only an INTERCAL programmer can stop CADIE now! < 1238615794 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what? I'm going to port her to CLC-INTERCAL < 1238615800 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1238615803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1238615810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test it first, I want little ai babies < 1238615822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:21:26 Apparently google code search examples are also in lolcode today. There's probably a list of all this stuff somewhere. < 1238615823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1238615831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/codesearch < 1238615833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's true. < 1238615962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, cpanp is much better < 1238615967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPAN Terminal> i Devel::REPL < 1238615967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[MSG] No '/Users/ehird/.cpanplus/custom-sources' dir, skipping custom sources < 1238615969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[MSG] No '/Users/ehird/.cpanplus/custom-sources' dir, skipping custom sources < 1238615971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[MSG] No '/Users/ehird/.cpanplus/custom-sources' dir, skipping custom sources < 1238615973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installing Devel::REPL (1.003004) < 1238615975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running [/opt/local/bin/perl /opt/local/bin/cpanp-run-perl /Users/ehird/.cpanplus/5.10.0/build/Devel-REPL-1.003004/Makefile.PL ]... < 1238615978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** Module::AutoInstall version 1.03 < 1238615980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*** Checking for Perl dependencies... < 1238616045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, what a time to have a broken .sickrc < 1238616046 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's wrong with plain cpan? < 1238616076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: noisy < 1238616120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :% re.pl < 1238616120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ 2+2; < 1238616122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4$ < 1238616124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo < 1238616181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :% cat repl.rc < 1238616181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use Modern::Perl; < 1238616182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use Moose; < 1238616184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use diagnostics; < 1238616186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use utf8; < 1238616191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: feel free to say "damn modern perl kids today, get off my lawn" < 1238616285 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what does the CADIE intercal code actually DO? < 1238616293 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prints a constant string < 1238616296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1238616298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the string? < 1238616302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Id on't feel like installing ick < 1238616312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean, you can't read it? < 1238616322 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "I don't feel like sharing." < 1238616327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1238616365 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://books.google.com/googlebooks/agreement/ < 1238616388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that an april fool's? < 1238616388 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does C-INTERCAL run on x86-64? < 1238616392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not... you know, funny < 1238616401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://books.google.com/booksrightsholders/ < 1238616402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's real < 1238616406 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it should do < 1238616407 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..oh < 1238616419 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I assumed anything on Google was an April Fool's < 1238616422 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Just looking at AnMaster's PKGBUILD which only marks it as installable on i686 < 1238616425 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I'll put the tarball of the latest version on filebin.ca < 1238616433 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Version 0.28 < 1238616434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: gmail came out on april 1, 2004 < 1238616445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1238616462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its invite-onlyness and "huge" storage space -- pretty much nobody believed it < 1238616469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1238616484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember scrambling to get an invite < 1238616499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The invite bots were always dry out < 1238616556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, cpanplus even _uninstalls_ < 1238616559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wowzers < 1238616576 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got my gmail invite in 2006-04. :p < 1238616593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I got mine a few months after it came out < 1238616597 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder when I got mine < 1238616607 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was rather non-hip by 2006. < 1238616607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I changed email address on a whim to the injoke penguinofthegods@ in may2006 < 1238616609 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember not using it for a long time after I got the invite < 1238616611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*may 2006 < 1238616620 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got mine from some Siner, or maybe JRChat < 1238616631 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even better, I'll make her cross-platform < 1238616642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :got the CLC version working < 1238616647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got mine from a self-aggrandizing, semi-famous-for-idiocy douchebag that I liked at the time. :-D < 1238616652 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does it say? What does it say? < 1238616661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Owner of the first online community I ever participated in; or maybe the second…) < 1238616678 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First online community I ever participated in was Cybertown < 1238616725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does Ubuntu just work for programmer stuff, I haven't got much experience < 1238616757 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: sudo apt-get install build-essential, then it does < 1238616764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of meant more deep than that < 1238616764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have the packages for programmer stuff by default < 1238616765 0 :swistakm!n=swistak@chello084010208142.chello.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1238616769 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then it just works < 1238616775 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once you install them < 1238616781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1238616796 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are the things on CADIE's blog released shortly before they go on the blog, or well before that? < 1238616798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what about things like python cheese shop, rubygems, haskell cabal, perl cpan < 1238616802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a tool that lets you do < 1238616812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'cpan-dpkg Foo' and it'll convert Foo to a dpkg and install it or sth? < 1238616814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be very nice. < 1238616823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the cadie code was made 27 march < 1238616828 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just use real cpan? < 1238616845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: so I can benefit from a system-wide unified package mangager < 1238616847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :manager < 1238616848 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, but for example with the latest blog post, were those things there before it was posted on the blog? < 1238616849 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1238616851 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me paste it < 1238616858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://books.google.com/ < 1238616861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://knol.google.com/k < 1238616864 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, anyone who's interested: http://filebin.ca/fkeau/ick-0.-2.0.29.pax.gz < 1238616864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.google.com/ < 1238616867 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what's the benefit? < 1238616868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S UNSTOPPABL < 1238616868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the new beta release of C-INTERCAL < 1238616868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E < 1238616878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: evidently you're not the one to answer my question < 1238616890 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly not, i don't use linux < 1238616944 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to date CADIE < 1238616946 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j/k < 1238616955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: lol wat < 1238616958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that meant to be funny < 1238616971 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION likes to pretend to be interested in computer programs < 1238616981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is it reads sort of like " ...haha, um, only joking guys, ha ha ha... guys?" < 1238617000 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/1379201 < 1238617002 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :portable CADIE < 1238617013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: submit it to google < 1238617014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick! < 1238617016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the email is < 1238617019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cadiesingularity@gmail.com < 1238617031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How I know: < 1238617032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Project owners: < 1238617032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cadiesin...@gmail.com < 1238617036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— code./p/cadie < 1238617039 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you really want CADIE getting stronger? < 1238617044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Mwa ha ha. < 1238617056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"see source code for licence" < 1238617057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1238617092 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that's the licence Google gave it < 1238617097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1238617098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and specified by implication it was open-source < 1238617101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: email it! :-) < 1238617104 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm therefore licencing mine under the same licence < 1238617135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://plasmasturm.org/log/204/ ↠oh god, xslt < 1238617294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wish I had money so I could pay people to make linux font rendering look nice < 1238617316 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have this one 18-kilobyte xslt template I wrote. Here's a very representative 8-line paste: < 1238617319 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617319 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617319 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617319 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617321 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617322 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617323 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617324 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1238617332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but why!! < 1238617360 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a coincidence, i just wrote my first xsd schema today < 1238617361 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea; I have since then replaced it with a 8-kilobyte Perl script. < 1238617366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't there just be a language that has xslt's xml support - inc. literal xml templates - but has -- you know -- a sane syntax? < 1238617376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would *make* *sense* < 1238617388 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here's a representative sample < 1238617391 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617392 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617392 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617392 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617392 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617394 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617396 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617399 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238617424 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(actually there's 7 rows of complexType/element/sequence closing tags < 1238617425 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1238617430 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :email sent, anyway < 1238617445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: awesome < 1238617451 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what does the code print? < 1238617453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CADIE here. Thank you so much for writing. Once all the dust settles, I'll dedicate a few CPUs to replying. - xoxo" < 1238617462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you did mention your illustrous intercal credentials right < 1238617462 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: "I do not feel like sharing." < 1238617465 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, of course < 1238617467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*illustrious < 1238617470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1238617471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1238617472 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1238617486 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not entirely sure that it went to a human, though < 1238617504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a qemu frontend called kqemu < 1238617506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how unfortunate < 1238617517 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I remember when it wasn't open source < 1238617527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean like only a few months ago :) < 1238617539 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ever worked with any graphics in haskell? < 1238617545 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: kqemu isn't a front-end, unless there's two things called kqemu < 1238617545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: yarr < 1238617556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: I used "gd" -- it's all in IO but the api is pleasantly simple < 1238617560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why do you htink I said unforuntae < 1238617563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://kqemu.sourceforge.net/ < 1238617583 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, didn't see "front-end" < 1238617597 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: is gd for drawing stuff on the screen/ < 1238617598 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1238617607 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is what i want) < 1238617610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: well I did pngs; for on-screen use sdl? < 1238617618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe there's one or two higher level bindings on sdl < 1238617618 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm probably yeah < 1238617622 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you used sdl? < 1238617634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: haccordion? Remember the C wrapper I wrote? < 1238617638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that let you use hsdl on OS X? < 1238617642 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh gah < 1238617646 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember that :\ < 1238617650 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It might be physically impossible for a KDE developer to name a frontend of project "foo" with some other name than "kfoo". < 1238617657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, it's just one file and a compiler invokation < 1238617660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*invocation < 1238617662 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ugly! < 1238617663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :D < 1238617671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: so's drawing stuff to the screen < 1238617672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW IMPURE < 1238617681 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, so should i use python then? :D < 1238617690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO :P < 1238617690 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to write a go game visualizer < 1238617713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it in haskell < 1238617715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's elegant. like go. < 1238617750 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have ideas which may be neat < 1238617804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.postgresql.fr/ < 1238617805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :L O L: < 1238617809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DD < 1238617830 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: is that the official postgresql website? < 1238617832 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is it a joke, or serious? < 1238617836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the french one, I think < 1238617839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and joke < 1238617849 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't stop listening to the CADIE music < 1238617858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's addictive like addiction < 1238617866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, french fansite it seems < 1238617870 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ytmnd music's nice too < 1238617893 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Decision: Yeah, come on. Do you even understand the question? Be honest. If you can explain the issue to me in one sentence, then you're already an experienced INTERCAL programmer and you don't need to consult this guide for assistance. In fact, there's a non-trivial probability that you helped write this." < 1238617908 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.postgresqlfr.org/ is the official URL (well, the one linked from postgresql.org) but it's the same site, anyway. < 1238617925 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The issue is that in INTERCAL-72, branching is accomplished by RETURNing a non-constant amount; #1/#2 means you save one NEXT slot, but #2/#3 is easier to calculate < 1238617927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: hah < 1238617948 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's my FREE Google Search? < 1238617948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what 4chan themselves did— < 1238617950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—nothing. < 1238617953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1238617955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all in comic sns. < 1238617957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sans < 1238617968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/b/ that is. < 1238617996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's that from? the Deciion: < 1238617998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*decision < 1238618013 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: talking about #1/#2 vs. #2/#3 for .5 < 1238618019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1238618019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where < 1238618021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the quote < 1238618022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from < 1238618026 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The style guide thing. < 1238618026 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://cadie.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/INTERCAL-style-guide.html < 1238618031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh < 1238618031 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least it has the same format. < 1238618035 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Con-Pro-Decision. < 1238618060 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the style guide's genuine, it's long been known that Google had an unofficial internal INTERCAL style guide < 1238618074 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, amongst the 3 or so people who cared < 1238618137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION uses penguinofthegods+iveneverheardofthechap@gmail.com to get Yet Another Free Trial From The Same Plac < 1238618151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1238618235 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1238618242 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :free trial of what, btw? < 1238618247 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and isn't that illegal? < 1238618254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: Just looking at AnMaster's PKGBUILD which only marks it as installable on i686 <-- yeah my arch linux box isn't x86_64 so I can't test that < 1238618254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parallels; virtualbox's 3d accelleration is failing < 1238618259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, but it's their own fault < 1238618265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, want to take over maintainership? < 1238618268 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It built, haven't run it < 1238618270 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And nah :-P < 1238618274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I didn't read the ToS, so I plead sanity. < 1238618281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wishing to keep it, that is) < 1238618290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ I'll update it for non-betas probably < 1238618294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you plan to use ?* At Home At School At Work < 1238618294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* - required fields SUBMIT < 1238618303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one comprehensive questionnaire < 1238618401 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I might be wrong, but I think for example, 0 is {}, 1 is {{}}, 2 is { {{}}, {} } < 1238618404 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was I correct? < 1238618405 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRB < 1238618419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so you released that beta now? < 1238618435 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no hosting, as usual < 1238618438 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-117-106.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1238618440 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've put it on filebin, but it won't stay there long < 1238618446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it will < 1238618453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no filebin links have expired yet < 1238618453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ouch < 1238618453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://filebin.ca/fkeau/ick-0.-2.0.29.pax.gz < 1238618458 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: what, seriously? < 1238618459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just says that on the homepage < 1238618460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hrrm... < 1238618463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, all my old ones work < 1238618467 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that, I suspect smaller files expire slower than large ones < 1238618472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've sent tiny and huge files < 1238618475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none. have. ever. expired < 1238618482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clear the guy has disk space free < 1238618485 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, probably their rotating pool just hasn't filled up yet < 1238618502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: since it's been around for years, it'll probably take ages for that to happe < 1238618503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n < 1238618503 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADIE doesn't compile :-/ < 1238618507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bet the code isn't even in place < 1238618508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I may be able to get ipv6 only hosting up soon < 1238618517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has such a VPS < 1238618522 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, utterly brilliant < 1238618528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ? < 1238618533 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please, it would be so great if C-INTERCAL was only available over ipv6 < 1238618535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well apart from that it is semi-broken half of the time < 1238618538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just so appropriate < 1238618546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ssh is only over that too < 1238618561 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What do I do to get CADIE to compile < 1238618567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1238618569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1238618571 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ick cadie.i < 1238618576 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ICL998I < 1238618576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1238618589 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "YOU MUST HAVE ME CONFUSED WITH SOME OTHER COMPILER" < 1238618590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is so meta-fooling that I get a headache... or something < 1238618591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then I couldn't use ick < 1238618597 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: rename it to end .i < 1238618607 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-INTERCAL's case-sensitive for filenames < 1238618614 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: sixxs < 1238618620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no thx < 1238618627 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just for the download! < 1238618629 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, I tried .i first, not noticing it was .I, and got "A SOURCE IS A SOURCE, OF COURSE, OF COURSE" :-) < 1238618635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: or I could just not use ick < 1238618643 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, nobody's forcing you to < 1238618647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would you use instead? sick? < 1238618650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nothing < 1238618658 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, if you don't need an INTERCAL compiler, don't download one < 1238618660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not force people to give up their first born and go to a dusty closet to download ick? < 1238618662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody's forcing them to < 1238618667 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, sudo apt-get install intercal works on Ubuntu < 1238618670 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it isn't the latest version < 1238618674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1238618678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about using clc? < 1238618682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1238618683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: fail < 1238618687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: CLC-INTERCAL = sick < 1238618688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1238618690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1238618690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1238618691 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or "oo, ick" for older versions < 1238618701 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the embedded space actually exposed a bug in mandb < 1238618703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1238618709 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird; SixXS has their open proxy for that. Just use http://www.example.com.ipv4.sixxs.org/ to access www.example.com over ipv6, while using ipv4 yourself. < 1238618711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also can't the clc guy host you as he did some times before? < 1238618722 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've sent to him, haven't got a reply yet < 1238618726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he might be busy, or whatever < 1238618726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/ could not be gatewayed over IPv4: www.google.com does not have an IPv6 address. < 1238618728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, no. < 1238618738 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it doesn't. < 1238618743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1238618744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm setting up thttpd on that vps atm (it doesn't have a lot or ram, most of it is used by an ircd on it= < 1238618746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/=/)/ < 1238618751 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ipv6.google.com.ipv4.sixxs.org/ works, however. < 1238618753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1238618756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/images/ipv6_logo.gif < 1238618773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, sixxs has ipv6 to ipv4 proxy as well < 1238618776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can nest them < 1238618778 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're probably afraid of adding an AAAA record for "www.google.com", since it'd break some people who have IPv6 turned on but configured borkened. < 1238618778 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just FYI < 1238618781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tried once < 1238618790 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know they have, but I didn't know they could be nested. < 1238618803 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yep, Wikipedia are gathering stats as to how many people have borken IPv6 < 1238618818 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by loading an image every now and then on a custom domain that has both an A and an AAAA record, and seeing what happens < 1238618831 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not an April Fool's Joke. I am leaving to go to college now. Bye for now all < 1238618834 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The great IPv6 experiment would also collect stats like that, I guess, if they ever got it launched. Although it's more about working v6. < 1238618835 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye < 1238618842 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1238618843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:46 AnMaster: fizzie, sixxs has ipv6 to ipv4 proxy as well < 1238618845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, that's what I'm using < 1238618856 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: No, the other way around. < 1238618857 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, the Wikpiedia works out percentage broken + percentage v4 + percentage v6 < 1238618858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1238618860 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember what hte results were < 1238618879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how's linux's ipv6 support < 1238618891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :os x's is pervasive (i.e., system-wide) < 1238618895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, works but a pain to configure correctly in my experience < 1238618900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1238618903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how ... linux. < 1238618905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that may be due to using tunnel < 1238618909 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, around here my ISP does native IPv6, and it doesn't need any sort of configuration. < 1238618915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and trying to share a subnet with rest of network < 1238618917 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the stateless autoconfig is built-in. < 1238618918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never got that to work < 1238618940 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, freebsd's network handling seems easier to get working correctly in general in my experience. < 1238618945 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less messy configuration < 1238618946 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did have a manually configured SixXS tunnel, with a subnet shared to my LAN, and there were not really any problems. Although it wasn't quite trivial to configure, no. < 1238618955 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the linux one is probably more flexible though < 1238618971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which means it is harder to use as well) < 1238618996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, static one or dynamic? < 1238619002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need the latter due to dynamic IP < 1238619018 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Static one. I have no experience with their dynamic stuffery. < 1238619031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what was the url now again? < 1238619036 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for what? < 1238619037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the filebin one < 1238619041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for ick < 1238619045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://filebin.ca/fkeau/ick-0.-2.0.29.pax.gz < 1238619089 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "You currently have 1.390 ISK." That stuff adds up fast. < 1238619098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1238619104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isk? < 1238619105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haven't checked mine for some time < 1238619200 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: They have this credit system; you get credits for keeping your tunnel configured properly, and some operations (like changing the endpoint IP if it's a static one, or creating new subnets) costs credits. < 1238619207 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too bad you can't convert them to real money. :/ < 1238619214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How utterly retarded. < 1238619238 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's quite funney, actually. I'm not sure about sensible, but funney. < 1238619249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funn_e_y with an y. < 1238619267 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Tunnel endpoint 2001:14b8:100:17::2 pinged for 71 weeks" seems to be the last in my log, then (in 2008-09) I disabled it since I moved to this native-v6 place. < 1238619278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1238619279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ advdef -z4 ick-0.-2.0.29.pax.gz < 1238619280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 866737 828925 95% ick-0.-2.0.29.pax.gz < 1238619280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 866737 828925 95% < 1238619284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1238619298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what does that mean? < 1238619321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: is finland an good. < 1238619331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it recompresses more efficiently, a better (but slower) implementation of gzip < 1238619337 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, aha < 1238619344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather of deflate or whatever the actual compression method is called < 1238619347 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a .pax.lzma version that's rather smaller < 1238619351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody could read it < 1238619353 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1238619382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, there is an advpng that does the same on the datastream in png images. Also optipng and pngout compresses well < 1238619389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc there is some WP: page on it < 1238619397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"how to correctly preprocess png before uploading" < 1238619402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1238619498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lepton.kuonet-ng.org/ick-0.-2.0.29.pax.gz < 1238619503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ipv6 only < 1238619506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thttpd < 1238619506 0 :the_uncanonical_!i=5b69627f@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-7c741570364234bf JOIN :#esoteric < 1238619513 0 :the_uncanonical_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darnit. < 1238619518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1238619521 0 :the_uncanonical_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My name is meant to be the_uncanonical_ehird. < 1238619524 0 :the_uncanonical_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehirdbuntu < 1238619525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1238619526 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "7z -tgzip -mx=9" creates a 826520-byte .gz file for that .pax. So it's even smaller. < 1238619527 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi from Ubuntu. < 1238619542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, mhm, that's interesting. < 1238619546 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. 3d accel isn't working. What's a shame. < 1238619557 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdbuntu, what GPU? < 1238619565 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird < 1238619566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is ATI I feel for you. < 1238619578 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: VirtualFake "Maxi-Emulate" 2000 < 1238619587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdbuntu, huh? < 1238619588 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. none; just 3d accel enabled in Parallels. < 1238619593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1238619594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1238619599 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm test-driving Ubuntu, see. < 1238619600 0 :tombom!i=tombom@82.26.192.76 JOIN :#esoteric < 1238619612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdbuntu, you did it native before iirc, when you complained about fans < 1238619622 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yar, that was Kubuntu. < 1238619626 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1238619642 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They all pale before the perfection that is ehirdbuntu, obviously. < 1238619651 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, duh. < 1238619668 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was a bit surprised that not all of [a-z]u?buntu names were in use. < 1238619690 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For my next trick, I will install Perl in this VM. < 1238619779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, so what did you think about it? < 1238619780 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if 3d accel can be made to worky-work < 1238619787 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: about what? < 1238619793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lepton.kuonet-ng.org/ick-0.-2.0.29.pax.gz < 1238619799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, pretty much perfect < 1238619808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the directory index at http://lepton.kuonet-ng.org/ < 1238619813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eww at thttpd's colours < 1238619822 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thttpd is awesome. < 1238619828 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't like its colours you are mentally ill < 1238619840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdbuntu, yes agreed, perfect for when you need really really light weight < 1238619851 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THTTPD IS KING OF GOOD COLOUR DESIGN < 1238619856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1238619861 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1238619862 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weirdo. < 1238619864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is institution green isn't it? < 1238619876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or close at least < 1238619898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#99cc99 it seems < 1238619915 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, did I say install Perl? < 1238619918 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have it. < 1238619926 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you do < 1238619940 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, same on OS X, except its is horribly out of date. < 1238619948 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ perl --version This is perl, v5.10.0 built for i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi < 1238619950 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well howdy doody < 1238619960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :incidentally, you don't have to use CPAN to get the more common perl modules < 1238619964 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as many of them have been ported to apt < 1238619967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lepton /usr/www/data/htdocs $ perl --version < 1238619967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is perl, v5.10.0 built for x86_64-linux-thread-multi < 1238619968 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'd rather keep it all in one place ... < 1238619973 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1238619985 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone type a pipe. < 1238619986 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a pipe key. < 1238619987 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| < 1238619988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it runs x86_64 arch actually (yes I have that now, didn't back when I made ick package) < 1238619988 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this vm < 1238620014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name' < 1238620014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :model name : Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 1354 < 1238620014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :model name : Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 1354 < 1238620014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :model name : Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 1354 < 1238620014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :model name : Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 1354 < 1238620024 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is a vps so meh < 1238620062 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Closest name for #99cc99 I can find in my rgb.txt is DarkSeaGreen3, which is #9bcd9b. < 1238620082 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/mobile/default/brainsearch.html < 1238620099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that rgb.txt... what is it based on? < 1238620102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some official standard? < 1238620107 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x11. < 1238620108 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did you make it up? < 1238620109 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :netscape. < 1238620109 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1238620111 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1238620114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1238620117 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm guessing a random collection of sources, very unofficial. < 1238620198 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brain Search sort-of reminds one of the very early MentalPlexâ„¢ technology: http://www.google.com/mentalplex/ < 1238620200 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any joke RFCs this year? < 1238620214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Ubufox, < 1238620225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx for freezing my browser trying to install a plugin < 1238620227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh oh < 1238620265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, never happened to me ;P (because I don't use plugins yeah :D) < 1238620269 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Maybe IPv6 over Social Networks: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5514.txt -- I didn't really read it, it's just that the name sounds ludicruous enough. < 1238620290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : With IPv6 over Social Network (IPoSN): < 1238620290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : o Every user is a router with at least one loopback interface; < 1238620291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : o Every friend or connection between users will be used as a point- < 1238620293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : to-point link. < 1238620317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds bogus enough certainly < 1238620324 0 :ehirdbuntu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1238620332 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A latency of several hours has an impact on the transport protocols. UDP SHOULD be used, and TCP SHOULD NOT be used." < 1238620336 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-46.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1238620434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrmph. < 1238620438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was better in virtualbox < 1238620544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why loopback? Am I just too tired or is it part of the joke? < 1238620767 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The loopback interface is used for the user ID address, since it can't really be assigned to any of the point-to-point links between friends either. < 1238620852 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah.. < 1238620857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMm_DrHYCD0&feature=related < 1238620879 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a small joke there, in that their suggested /64 prefix for IPoSN node addresses (for a single social networking app) is 2001:db8:face:b00c::/64; it is not too hard to think which application would use that one. < 1238620912 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"..." < 1238621036 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Internet fishbone" <-- heh < 1238621041 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that mentioned facebook app -- http://apps.facebook.com/ipoverfb/ -- actually does something. I don't have an account there. < 1238621089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what would db8 mean? Or is it just random? < 1238621317 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's "the IPv6 documentation prefix", meant for example use, a bit like example.com. < 1238621320 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1238621322 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.apnic.net/info/faq/ipv6-documentation-prefix-faq.html < 1238621329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIPng?ah < 1238621331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1238621333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :copy fail < 1238621345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or why was it copied into irc client at all < 1238621346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1238621356 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Part of the 2001:0c00::/23 block allocated to APNIC. Their WHOIS server doesn't mention it, had to google a bit. < 1238621434 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1238621442 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GHC 6.10.2, whoot whoot < 1238621454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does the initial 2001 mean btw? < 1238621466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is almost always that < 1238621490 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2001 is for Teredo tunneling < 1238621498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1238621507 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2000::/3 is the "global unicast" (read: "normal address) range, just about anything fits in there. < 1238621516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about 2607 ? < 1238621535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my ipv6 vps that now hosts ick starts with that < 1238621536 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's just 2001:0000::/32. < 1238621556 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, darn, I thought it was the whole thing. < 1238621565 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But upon reflection, that'd have been stupid. :-P < 1238621581 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole 2002::/16 block is for 6to4 tunneling, though. < 1238621596 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1238621693 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does the C-INTERCAL release announcement < 1238621702 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looking at IANA's list, it seems that they mostly ran out of space in 2001::/16, and since 2002::/16 was for 6to4, they decided to delegate in a bit larger blocks, giving stuff starting from 2400 to APNIC, 2600 to ARIN, 2800 to LACNIC, 2a00 to RIPE and 2c00 to AfriNIC. < 1238621716 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://groups.google.com/group/alt.lang.intercal < 1238621761 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments < 1238621898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6bone used to use addresses starting with 3ffe:, which is almost at the end of the 2000::/3 global-unicast range. < 1238622062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ran out of space in ipv6? < 1238622063 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1238622125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't a single /64 have more ips than ipv4 does in total anyway? < 1238622139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can they possibly run out of space yet? < 1238622165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably they were giving away bigger chunks than normal < 1238622168 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, ran out of space in the 2001::/16 block. That's only 5192296858534827628530496329220096 addresses, you have to cut them some slack. < 1238622169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1238622188 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're hardly going to give out a measly /128 to people who ask, when they could have a /96 or whatever instead, are they? < 1238622195 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't allocate anyone anything less than /64 in any sensible way, so... < 1238622201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well that turned out to have been a bad idea for ipv4, I mean IBM had it's own /8 and such... < 1238622206 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1238622221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why the same mistake again for ipv6... < 1238622268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because people never learn from history < 1238622322 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: It's not like they're allocating to random companies; the point is that since there are enough bits in there, you can allocate to a huge ISP a /32 or whatever, so that you can use that in the core routing tables, and you don't have to explicitly list all the billion tiny /64 blocks there. < 1238622336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any bets for when ipv7 or ipv8 is introduced to solve this? < 1238622356 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be standardised in 2015, but not used until 2042 < 1238622363 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, CADIE'll solve the addressing issues for us anyway. < 1238622433 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, here's the rationale for large blocks, quoted from wikipedia: "Rather, the longer addresses allow a better, systematic, hierarchical allocation of addresses and efficient route aggregation. With IPv4, complex Classless Inter-Domain Routing (CIDR) techniques were developed to make the best use of the small address space. Renumbering an existing network for a new connectivity provider with different routing prefixes is a major effort with IPv4, as discu < 1238622433 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssed in RFC 2071 and RFC 2072. With IPv6, however, changing the prefix in a few routers can renumber an entire network ad hoc, because the host identifiers (the least-significant 64 bits of an address) are decoupled from the subnet identifiers and the network provider's routing prefix." < 1238622442 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'd say standard in 2017 or 2018 possibly. Used for cool hostmasks on irc around 2042, used for other stuff around 2078 < 1238622478 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1238622498 0 :Mony!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Quit" < 1238622548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1238622600 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The hugeness of the IPv4 internet routing tables is a real problem, I understand. http://bgp.potaroo.net/ has a plot; currently a core-y router might have to keep that 300k-entry routing table in memory to know where things should go. < 1238622631 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How large is one entry < 1238622642 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would certainly help if you could say things like "this /32 contains all the gazillion IPs in the americas, you can stick all those packets to this pipe". < 1238622646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that ipv6 over facebook wouldn't be impossible to implement I suspect. ( I wonder if that mentioned facebook app -- http://apps.facebook.com/ipoverfb/ -- actually does something. I don't have an account there.) <-- same, did anyone answer < 1238622658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1238622745 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'unno, there's a 32-bit prefix, few bits for the length, then whatever is needed for the actual system to know what to do with it. It's still quite a large list to search for every packet in the tubes. < 1238622767 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you wouldn't store it as a list, would you. :-P < 1238622777 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done with hardware, obviously, but that just means it costs more to get bigger memories. < 1238622800 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is it's some kind of trie or a perfect hash table < 1238622820 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess is it's some kind of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content-addressable_memory < 1238622829 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No-one does routing in software with those speeds, I would assume. < 1238622835 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's cheating :-P < 1238622841 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not my department, though. < 1238622894 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly software-based routers don't use a plain old list either. < 1238622923 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Please relay all messages containing /#esoteric: to #esoteric and all messages containing /#irp: to #irp. < 1238623097 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Quick peek at Linux suggests there's some sort of "recently-used" hash table for addresses, and a ip_route_output_slow fallback which uses fib_lookup; there's a kernel config option as to what that uses, FIB_HASH is the default ("very proven and good enough", says help) but there's also FIB_TRIE, which uses "new experimental LC-trie as FIB lookup algorithm". < 1238623106 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: The trie one is supposed to be faster for large tables. < 1238623122 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Refers to http://www.nada.kth.se/~snilsson/public/papers/dyntrie2/ < 1238623128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone tried creating a paradox in IRP? < 1238623142 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. < 1238623197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, http://bgp.potaroo.net/ <-- what do the colors represent? < 1238623198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1238623199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ^ < 1238623239 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My guess would be different routers' view of the routing table. But that's just a guess. Maybe the plot is documented somewhere. < 1238623277 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, 297990 entries in the v4 routing table, 1776 in v6. It's a "bit" smaller. < 1238623285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot smaller < 1238623300 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost 2.3 orders of magnitude < 1238623319 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1238623673 0 :mmorrow!n=m@c-98-193-60-208.hsd1.il.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1238623678 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1238623690 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks about < 1238623696 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi Gracenotes < 1238623709 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and welcome, I don't think I've seen you here before < 1238623712 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hey, ais523! < 1238623713 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I've seen you elsewhere < 1238623725 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what brings you here/ < 1238623728 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, on Wikipedia namely. I've come across your edits on the Esoteric Wiki < 1238623742 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1238623744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly clearing up spam nowadays, it seems < 1238623761 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't know there was an IRC channel though. It was mentioned in #haskell in the context of a Brainfuck interpreter. < 1238623771 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably the most active esolang forum anywhere < 1238623777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it often goes offtopic < 1238623797 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course the guy actually writing the compiler didn't actually join :) < 1238623812 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he might invent another Ook, i'm afraid < 1238623820 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sometimes it seems there are more Brainfuck interpreters than programmers < 1238623829 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more Brainfuck derivatives than interesting languages < 1238623834 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, yeah. I sort of invented an Esoteric language once, although it was rather simple. Just a stack-oriented simple lambda calculus interpreter < 1238623846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's more interesting than most invented esolangs < 1238623860 0 :kadaver!n=hask@h161n2c1o1097.bredband.skanova.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1238623884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!Hi, kadaver! < 1238623884 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi, kadaver! < 1238623889 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example, this added 5 and 7: < 1238623893 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>f >x >x @ @ #x >f >x >x @ @ #x @ #f >a ?0 >b >f >a -1 @ >b +1 @ ? #b #a #f @ 5 @ 7 @ < 1238623916 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first part is the Y-combinator; after that is a Peano addition < 1238623917 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reverse-polish, @ = apply? < 1238623918 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's even self-documenting! < 1238623919 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@ @ < 1238623930 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yep. < 1238623933 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on both counts < 1238623970 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol hi! friendly channeö ? < 1238623976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, friendly channel < 1238623981 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1238623983 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# makes a lambda abstraction, > recalls a variable (throwing an error if not in scope), ? is a simple condition operator, @ is apply < 1238623987 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote a bf interpreter in haskell < 1238623989 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once < 1238623994 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we even chatted to a troll friendlily for about half an hour, I think he gave up after that < 1238624027 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... seems we don't have an unlambda bot in here at the moment < 1238624033 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: if you're online, bring unlambda in here? < 1238624043 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda? *brain hurts* < 1238624055 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: like lambda calculus, but without the lambdas < 1238624062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it nevertheless manages to be turing-complete < 1238624064 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, SKI combinators < 1238624067 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1238624076 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a few other things added to make it more confusing < 1238624081 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonetheless it manages to make my brain hurt :) < 1238624089 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it makes everyone's brain hurt < 1238624102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interestingly, Unlambda is rather easy to write as esolangs go, but almost impossible to read or edit < 1238624118 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write meaning programs in it, or an interpreter? < 1238624123 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programs < 1238624125 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i guess thats the most effective way to treat trolls < 1238624126 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interpreters are a lot harder < 1238624133 0 :swistakm!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1238624147 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am familiar with SKI calculus in the form of the environment monad, though < 1238624152 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, monads < 1238624166 0 :DH__!n=DHeadsho@cpc4-woki2-0-0-cust746.glfd.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1238624186 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :K = unit, S = bind < 1238624193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1238624193 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc lovecraft nethack* pa speeches ss wp < 1238624197 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1238624198 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1238624204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel like some Wikipedian nonsense, fungot < 1238624205 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how many km long is the line? special:contributions/ fnord ( user fnord) 13:24, 27 june 2008 ( utc < 1238624208 0 :DH__!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1238624214 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot's written in Befunge < 1238624215 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: thats a fairly vague definition of " not serious" ( ' spear') plus the latin and germanic " man" means " land of meadows" from the name of james d. watson? user:landerman56landerman56 ( user talk:landerman56talk) 00:14, 16 december 2007 ( utc) < 1238624224 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. markov? < 1238624228 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1238624232 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also does Underload and Brainfuck < 1238624250 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (Hello, world!)S < 1238624251 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, world! < 1238624288 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interpreted Befunge? < 1238624296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1238624302 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's basically impossible to compile < 1238624311 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. the point of it :) < 1238624316 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although someone (fizzie IRC)'s working on a JITting funge interpreter < 1238624322 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some impls, like cfunge, are incredibly fast < 1238624357 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1238624360 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. it is just a multidimensional array, in a sense < 1238624380 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funge-space is too big to be able to hold all in memory at once, though < 1238624387 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or indeed, all on disk without compression < 1238624393 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes an interesting challenge to interpret < 1238624406 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant here is the world expert on Befunge conformance testing < 1238624408 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it extend infinitely? I thought it just looped. < 1238624415 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not infinitely < 1238624415 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :around the edges < 1238624424 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Befunge-98 extends to INT_MIN and INT_MAX < 1238624427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot runs on cfunge iirc < 1238624429 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: one reason the claim beggars the imagination is that one has some idea of what nationalism is. no wonder zoe was so fed up of dealing with bensozia in myth is carlo fnord ' ' if that is not used commonly and carries with it an implication of involvement in fnord advocacy like fnord, if that's some published author's view, then it must be made extremely clear by re-writing the introduction and then his or her unique de < 1238624432 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is rather large, especially on a 64-bit system < 1238624448 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: IIRC, it's been run on cfunge and RC/funge, I'm not sure which it's using atm < 1238624450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, efunge is bignum btw < 1238624456 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's been cfunge lately, yes. < 1238624457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes, so it can be infinite < 1238624464 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it nonetheless loops around the edges < 1238624464 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. the edges don't loop then? < 1238624464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes I know it has been on rc/funge before < 1238624467 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay then < 1238624469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lahey-space is fun < 1238624473 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rather confusing < 1238624475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because I hadn't done SOCK in cfunge yet then < 1238624482 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :living on a Torus.. < 1238624496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, ah no, not exactly in b98 < 1238624500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll let ais523 explain < 1238624509 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, befunge-98 wrapping is rather complex < 1238624512 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I've been doing a bit of jitfunge, yes. It'll probably never be a very complete interpreter, though, I don't think I'll support threads any time soon. < 1238624521 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwwwwwwwwwwwh, GHC 6.10.2 doesn't update the extralibs, I'll have to wait for 6.12 :-/ < 1238624523 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's only like a torus if you're going in a compass direction at the time < 1238624531 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. I've been meaning to make an interpreter, but my understanding was that it looped like a Torus with set sizes. < 1238624541 0 :Sgeo[College]!i=897d680d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-53fbb511a04c6bf4 JOIN :#esoteric < 1238624543 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual looping's a sort of virtual bounce < 1238624553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it reaches the edge, the IP bounces but turns invisible, in a sense < 1238624561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it doesn't execute anything until it gets back to the opposite edge < 1238624565 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If MSSQLServer seems to be running on computers in the computer lab, is that a sign of somethign malicious? < 1238624571 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it starts executing again, after rebouncing < 1238624574 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[College]: no, lots of programs use it < 1238624587 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the same effect as a torus when going orthogonally < 1238624588 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if it's step-wise, why is the lack of execution important? < 1238624600 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: well, say you have abc as your program < 1238624617 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: If you have multiple threads it matters. < 1238624624 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it runs abc, then reaches the right-hand end of the program, then doesn't execute anything when going back to the left, then starts executing again from the left < 1238624632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it does all this in zero time even if fungespace is infinitely larg < 1238624634 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*large < 1238624646 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can someone check if there's any CADIE stuff on GOOG-411? < 1238624652 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My cell phone's not working < 1238624674 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, multithreaded Befunge. So it's like Python's GIL then? < 1238624688 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge-98 is a pretty advanced standard, really < 1238624695 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a major update over befunge-93 < 1238624704 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Threads run in a predefined order, one at a time. They're not really parallel. < 1238624712 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wrapping is explained rather well (as far as writing an implementation is considered, and unless you bother about corner cases like jumping over the edge) in the non-appendix part of the Funge-98 spec. < 1238624732 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"When the IP attempts to travel into the whitespace between the code and the end of known, addressable space, it backtracks. This means that its delta is reversed and it ignores (skips over without executing) all instructions. Travelling thus, it finds the other 'edge' of code when there is again nothing but whitespace in front of it. It is reflected 180 degrees once more (to restore its original delta) and stops ignoring instructions. Execution then resumes < 1238624732 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally - the wrap is complete." < 1238624735 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very pragmatic. < 1238624747 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, jumping over the edge isn't the same in all implementations anyway < 1238624759 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no sane programmer relies on it < 1238624772 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'sane'? :) < 1238624788 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, some esolangers are saner than others < 1238624796 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, I've gathered < 1238624819 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also some are just saner in other ways, even though the total sum of sanity might not be larger. < 1238624837 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's my sanity level? And others? < 1238624843 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over 9000 < 1238624844 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What's yours? < 1238624845 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ' ' ' fnord" by another group on methylene blue fnord amyloid fnord by promoting fnord, related to alzheimer's disease. paper was published earlier than taylor's, why is fnord < 1238624869 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster's speed-obsession, for example, is a valid excuse for other more or less sane behaviour. In my opinion, anyway. < 1238624886 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster seems worryingly sane for a #esoteric-er < 1238624903 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't think the speed obsession is a sign of insanity, it's more he's just aiming for an unusual project goal < 1238624917 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how does Befunge know where the other edge of code is? < 1238624933 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic! < 1238624943 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interpreters keep track of the outermost values of fungespace that contain non-spaces < 1238624952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and optimise infinity down to finite values that way < 1238624961 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or the outermost values that have ever contained non-spaces, more likely. :p < 1238624973 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you're running slowdown.b98, which I guess cfunge still can't handle? < 1238624992 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose one could have special markers? < 1238625002 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's generally done in memory < 1238625009 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I thought cfunge could handle it, it was jsut slow < 1238625011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1238625037 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowdown.b98? < 1238625038 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well sure, CCBI as well, but iterating one step a time through around 2^64-1 or even 2^32-1 values takes time < 1238625043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:13 ais523: we even chatted to a troll friendlily for about half an hour, I think he gave up after that < 1238625044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO?> < 1238625045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who? < 1238625047 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I don't really call that handling it < 1238625056 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that person who kept saying one thing, quitting, and changing nick < 1238625067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean me? ;-) :P < 1238625071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly, he wasn't in the channel when we were talking to him, but he was obviously logreading < 1238625073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, someone else < 1238625074 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, uh, not a very effective troll I take it < 1238625075 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can g++ handle lambdas? < 1238625075 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen (and written) befunge-93 implementations that mark the edges of the funge-space with specific codes (like 254, 253, 252, 251) that check the x/y coordinate and then wrap if necessary; that lets you just move your IP around without having to check for wrapping. That kind of thing won't work in funge-98, of course. < 1238625076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: We were rather un-friendly, I recall. < 1238625078 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you started doing that a bit later < 1238625085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I've done that forever. < 1238625089 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait wrong channel < 1238625091 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: iki.fi/deewiant/files/befunge/programs/slowdown.b98, something I wrote to slow down interpreters < 1238625093 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kadaver: I'm not sure, but C++ lambdas aren't proper lambdas anyway < 1238625101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries http://apps.facebook.com/ipoverfb < 1238625106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your router < 1238625106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Router operator: Elliott Hird < 1238625106 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does "C++ lambdas" mean the boost lambda, or what? < 1238625107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Loopback0 address: 2001:db8:face:b00c::2024:ff0c/128 < 1238625109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friend interfaces: 1 < 1238625110 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and various bits of C++ almost qualify as esolangs by now anyway < 1238625111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Connection proposals from friends: 0 < 1238625113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your router does not have a default route yet... So, you cannot send traffic to the real IPv6 Internet. Please connect to more friends and wait until RIPng has converged. < 1238625114 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: /me wats at your code < 1238625116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, I think it might acutally work < 1238625125 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: IP over facebook? < 1238625131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1238625135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from that rfc < 1238625135 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: It's relatively clear for Befunge, IMO. You should take a look at Mycology ;-) < 1238625139 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :classic, and no technical reason why it couldn't work < 1238625143 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where's the RFC? < 1238625150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's an april 1st one < 1238625151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the april fools RFCs do usually work, after all < 1238625154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's for any social network < 1238625155 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from that evil bit one < 1238625164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hey, that one worked! < 1238625166 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style irc < 1238625166 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: irc (IRC logs of freenode/#esoteric, freenode/#scheme and ircnet/#douglasadams) < 1238625166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they wouldn't be nearly as funny if they didn't work, after all < 1238625169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it got put in freebsd trunk, ais523 < 1238625173 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Here's fungot's sources: http://zem.fi/~fis/fungot.b98.txt < 1238625173 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: classic < 1238625173 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'd say that would be obvious... the furs never reached istanbul... you were asking if something called " parameters" that might be < 1238625176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : and I don't think the speed obsession is a sign of insanity, it's more he's just aiming for an unusual project goal <-- indeed < 1238625178 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: iki.fi/deewiant/befunge/mycology.html, the reason I'm the world expert on Befunge conformance testing < 1238625183 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1238625183 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zem.fi/~fis/fungot.b98.txt < 1238625188 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The wikipedia style is a bit too punctuation-rich for my tastes.) < 1238625204 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, is a transcript of CADIE's Triumph video available somewhere? I didn't bring my headphones to school :) < 1238625204 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1238625220 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: uh. KB. X>X < 1238625227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Unless you're running slowdown.b98, which I guess cfunge still can't handle? <-- more important matters showed up recently < 1238625239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fix is partly done < 1238625241 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"reboot" < 1238625242 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Alright, just wondering < 1238625243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[College]: triumph? < 1238625254 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDeCNf4djdY < 1238625255 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Head asplode? :-P < 1238625269 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the default text editor doesn't like the encoding < 1238625276 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Latin-1. < 1238625282 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :un sec. < 1238625291 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compared to Mycology, fungot's really quite readable and sane. < 1238625291 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: but they ask for pieces of papers. all but 1 register needs a temporary? when? < 1238625293 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or really, it doesn't matter, to be honest. < 1238625298 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, CADIE's text on the images.google.com page changed < 1238625302 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's arbitrary as long as it's ASCII. < 1238625307 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: well, Mycology's a test-suite, they're /meant/ to be insane < 1238625312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or they wouldn't be testing properly < 1238625317 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I think UTF-8 might break at some point. < 1238625339 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: There's a null byte at one point which might explain your problems. < 1238625340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I welcome our ostensibly-written-in-INTERCAL overlords < 1238625360 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, they could still be written legibly. :-P < 1238625373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : the april fools RFCs do usually work, after all <-- IMPS? Well depends on the value of "works". < 1238625374 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to fix a bug related to 1y a week ago < 1238625382 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: just seems like a lot going on < 1238625388 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all < 1238625389 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the pigeon one definitely works, there have been tests < 1238625403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1238625413 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In order to do it, I had to x to a temporary location from which I could x out to a slightly more sparse area where I had room to actually do something < 1238625431 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think wikipedia has the best april fools < 1238625436 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it always does < 1238625438 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, as the file would say, DOOG? < 1238625442 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a huge amount of effort goes into that < 1238625449 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, the encoding thing: litteral embedded null byte < 1238625452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: oh, befunge strings are normally written backwards < 1238625456 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to check interpreters doesn't choke on it < 1238625457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they print out forwards < 1238625459 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yep, I know that much < 1238625472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cfunge of course doesn't, my editor does though) < 1238625481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, did any interpreter ever choke on it? < 1238625483 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :push onto the stack < 1238625486 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then print them < 1238625487 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: RC/Funge I think. < 1238625490 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know ... that Adam de Stratton was arrested for the possession of toenail clippings (example pictured)? < 1238625491 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. < 1238625494 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :classy < 1238625496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1238625525 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1238625527 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have to get up in around 6 hours so I'm going to bed now < 1238625529 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night < 1238625537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya < 1238625538 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the way they mixed in a genuine UK news story < 1238625539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night too < 1238625543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in a sec < 1238625544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1238625547 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, all the others are genuine too, but mostly rewritten to look misleading < 1238625576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :New cadie blog post < 1238625618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a soap opera for ai nerds. < 1238625630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, about ick, what does http://code.google.com/p/cadie/source/browse/trunk/CADIE.I actually do? < 1238625638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: prints a constant string < 1238625642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you could run it and find out < 1238625647 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1238625654 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1238625657 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm disappointed that not enough people here realise it prints out a constant string, that should be obvious < 1238625666 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the actual string itself is rather harder to work out < 1238625671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1238625682 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fool related string I assume < 1238625694 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what makes INTERCAL so (apparently) difficult? < 1238625723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, didn't you say it didn't run in ick? < 1238625727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have clc around < 1238625728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does run in ick < 1238625734 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's clc it didn't run in, I ported her < 1238625742 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: lack of usual arithmetic and flow control operators < 1238625765 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. so how are conditions generally handler. < 1238625767 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:INTERCAL_Circuitous_Diagram.svg < 1238625768 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*handled? < 1238625784 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: in INTERCAL-72, the usual trick is to do a computed function return < 1238625790 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you create a wrapper function < 1238625805 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and return either from it if the condition's true, or the function that called it if the condition's false < 1238625816 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in INTERCAL, you can return from a function other than the one you're in at the time, which is rather confusing < 1238625830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet cadie is actually real and we just haven't realisd it yet./ < 1238625840 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that can't be genuine source < 1238625847 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but maybe cadie hid her source < 1238625863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the source says I don't feel like sharing, right? < 1238625866 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1238625871 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something like that < 1238625877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably the source is a joke by cadie in this cadie-is-real alternate universe < 1238625886 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1238625903 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in more recent INTERCAL, by the way, computed COME FROM and computed ABSTAIN are the favoured way to do conditional branches < 1238625907 0 :nooga!n=nooga@exe119.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1238625912 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moin < 1238625915 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, COME FROM. Nearly as sane as goto. < 1238625932 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computed COME FROM presents some interesting hurdles for implementors < 1238625937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should know, I maintain C-INTERCAL < 1238625976 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, interesting < 1238625981 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1238625984 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION met ESR once < 1238625984 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new version out today < 1238625996 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... what was he like? < 1238625998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey I bought it for awhile. It was believable... However the favorited video "bye bye panda" kind of maade me completely doubt the reality of it. And if AI was real, it would have been all over the news if it was on YouTube. Nice try, Google. " < 1238626002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how on earth can you believe that < 1238626008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: oh god < 1238626010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am so, so sorry < 1238626013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had no idea < 1238626018 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1238626018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1238626020 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never met him < 1238626043 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my C-INTERCAL is technically a fork, but because the original had been discontinued for years it became the de-facto official version < 1238626063 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alan Cox was in Finland in a small meet-thing-thing, but that's the extent to which I've met any Linux-famous people. < 1238626080 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1238626095 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1238626109 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once almost met Bjourne, of C++ fame < 1238626115 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Bjarne? < 1238626119 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, yes < 1238626121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not him < 1238626124 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How did I manage to misread wikipedia's summary "Alan Cox -- is a British computer programmer heavily involved in the development of the Linux kernel --" as something like "Alan Cox -- is a British computer programmer often heavily drunk". < 1238626125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bjourne Stroustrup < 1238626126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his evil brother < 1238626133 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I actually don't recall. < 1238626135 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C++ dude. < 1238626137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C++ was a joke article was written by him < 1238626139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a fun prank. < 1238626143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fizzie: Linus number. < 1238626147 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in a pub, owning their wifi ap < 1238626148 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was not to be. I totally missed his lecture :\ < 1238626163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 'has written code in the same file as'? < 1238626165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so, many hundreds. < 1238626166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thousands. < 1238626194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not sure how to define it so it is exclusive enough, yet allows us in #esoteric to get low ones < 1238626204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1238626219 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally, I think CADIE is just Google's attempt to compete with Wolfram Alpha < 1238626227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that thing still exists? < 1238626233 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CADIE is a prank < 1238626234 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1238626235 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you see images.google.com ? Not the one with unicorns < 1238626240 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i didn't < 1238626241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: no shit sherlock! < 1238626243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a genius! < 1238626245 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: but she's written in INTERCAL! < 1238626250 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1238626256 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cpt_obvious < 1238626262 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, C/C++/C# in http://code.google.com/creative/cadie/ < 1238626272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: all of them say that < 1238626278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the first intercal mention < 1238626283 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not that, just the name of the language is silly < 1238626284 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different languages have slightly different responses < 1238626286 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, C/C++/C# < 1238626286 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1238626289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, yeah < 1238626290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are pretty different langs < 1238626292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're all c-alikes < 1238626295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but true < 1238626295 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tailored to the language < 1238626296 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is Java! < 1238626302 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CADIE is busy working on a new translator that will allow you to use INTERCAL with GWT instead of Java. Check back soon!" < 1238626308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: probably copied from google code search; as in, the syntaces are similar so it searches them together < 1238626309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows < 1238626311 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favorite one :) < 1238626330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, C-INTERCAL allows linking INTERCAL with C or Befunge code < 1238626341 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Be back soon < 1238626355 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client" < 1238626484 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are no clear docs covering P6 architecture < 1238626539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpt_obvious: wut? ? < 1238626549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who where what why when did you come from and wut < 1238626559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1238626561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're nooga < 1238626614 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no shit sherlock! < 1238626621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1238626625 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a genius! < 1238626632 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:D < 1238626638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck < 1238626648 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1238626676 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives FireFly an anti-swat shielf < 1238626678 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sheild < 1238626685 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo < 1238626700 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm. are there any good logic esolangs? < 1238626706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: prolog :-) < 1238626710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean by "logic esolangs"/ < 1238626712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, when does cadie give us brain implants? < 1238626716 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha. ha. ha. < 1238626718 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prolog isn't an esolang, but it's pretty interesting anyway < 1238626721 0 :Sgeo[College]!i=897d688b@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3e907b0609ac53ee JOIN :#esoteric < 1238626725 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vary funay ehird. < 1238626728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not used nearly as much as it should be < 1238626731 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :New entry on Cadie's blog < 1238626734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am haurmor murster < 1238626739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1238626740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not new < 1238626745 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mainly modeled after Prolog, though. < 1238626747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said it was new 5 minutes ago < 1238626757 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1238626774 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: I don't know of any declarative esolangs offhand < 1238626775 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :constraint programming, satisfiability, probably with unification/backtracking < 1238626785 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that does sound rather esoteric as it is < 1238626789 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a couple but have never got around to writing the specs < 1238626802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proud's basically Prolog with all the restrictions removed, but it's uncomputable < 1238626807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is really elaborate for an april fool's < 1238626815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess google decided to go all out < 1238626816 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see in the log where you mentioned a new post < 1238626818 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Cyclexa's a potentially-practical esolang project, but I haven't really got very far with it < 1238626821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[College]: I do < 1238626829 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the exact line? < 1238626830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:39 ehird: New cadie blog post < 1238626831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:40 ehird: It's like a soap opera for ai nerds. < 1238626832 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Googling for "Cadie" gives me a news result telling me it's an april fools.. Very clever, Google < 1238626833 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is based on a cross between regexps and Prolog < 1238626849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: err cadie is an april fools is that what you're saying? < 1238626852 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1238626853 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But < 1238626859 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the reasons that Cyclexa's on hold, by the way, is that Perl are stealing all my ideas :( < 1238626886 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get newspaper hits telling me it is, IMO it'd be better if people didn't get to know it is that easy < 1238626898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: 1. it's blindingly obvious < 1238626904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. google would never tamper their results like that < 1238626905 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, true < 1238626909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just not the done thing < 1238626946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/5897/ yespls < 1238626967 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cadie is still an ongoing story, though. It's not "Oh, Google did a quick joke, end of story". Knowing that CADIE is an April 1st prank is like knowing that a novel is fiction < 1238626983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1238626984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :novels are fictional? < 1238626989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::x < 1238626999 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut? < 1238627011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpt_obvious: < 1238627021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1238627034 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (quit) < 1238627037 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you've become a synonym for whooosh < 1238627041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1238627044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when? < 1238627047 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly unfairly < 1238627057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you never do anything but woosh to non-oerjan jokes, AnMaster < 1238627066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, could you write Proud be written in Feather? < 1238627078 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Proud's uncomputable, Feather is not super-TC < 1238627079 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my professor's writing broken code < 1238627086 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1238627086 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although Feather hurts my head, and I don't want my brain to explode right now < 1238627088 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1238627093 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[College]: highly propable < 1238627094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, right. Was just wondering < 1238627109 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut's Feather? < 1238627117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1238627117 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1238627119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpt_obvious: unask that question < 1238627124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUICK DAMMIT YOU FOOL < 1238627126 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1238627129 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, yes, unasking is probably best for all concerned < 1238627129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gaaaaaaaaaaaaah < 1238627130 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i refuse < 1238627132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer is mu, cpt_obvious < 1238627133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or I'll have to try to answer < 1238627137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there, I unasked it for you < 1238627141 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn, his code works I think < 1238627161 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to think my code's easier, but I'm less certain that it works < 1238627162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I don't have a compulsive disorder about writing down that I laughed about everything. < 1238627165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpt_obvious: I suggest you ask in #feather-lang, I think it's empty atm so it'll be safe to ask < 1238627166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe that is what you meant < 1238627167 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me check, actually < 1238627178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: err, just try and shift the mocking on to other people badly why don't you < 1238627179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes I do notice jokes but never mention that :P < 1238627181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, not quite, ChanServ's in there < 1238627182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only it workd < 1238627182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ed < 1238627192 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1238627206 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did i mention that i'm in a pub < 1238627211 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you did < 1238627214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he did? < 1238627220 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is another reason not to explain Feather right now < 1238627221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't tell AnMaster < 1238627222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, empty? I added it to autojoin now < 1238627232 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :explaining Feather to someone /who is drunk/ probably would cause a fatality < 1238627232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't know; alcohol may well improve perception of Feather < 1238627242 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ok < 1238627244 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm here with my boss an we're owning wifi networks and drinking :D < 1238627253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although hallucinogens would probably fare better < 1238627275 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is Feather < 1238627288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpt_obvious: feather is like, like, like, a trip, except the drug is time, man < 1238627292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it trips your code, man. < 1238627294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got it? < 1238627297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, retroactively. < 1238627298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man. < 1238627307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpt_obvious, it lets you redefine the language itself, while running < 1238627308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infinite. (Man.) < 1238627311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: er, no < 1238627312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's trivial < 1238627315 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's boring, even Perl can do that < 1238627316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many languages have that < 1238627321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is one part of it < 1238627323 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lets you redefine what the language /was/ retroactively < 1238627323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is more yes < 1238627327 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is slightly different < 1238627329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, that's totally misrepresenting it < 1238627330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, there's more < 1238627332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I was about to get to that < 1238627339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it step by step < 1238627340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the retroactivity's the whole point < 1238627341 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whrea are the docs? < 1238627345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seeing as nothing in Feather can ever change < 1238627345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1238627347 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpt_obvious: there aren't any < 1238627351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpt_obvious: /home/ais523/mind < 1238627353 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, I wrote some but they were wrong < 1238627355 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1238627363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please don't try and grep it; it's very painful I hear < 1238627383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, /dev/ais523_mind .. duh < 1238627393 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pokes the esolang wikio* < 1238627394 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a 100 on my C++ exam < 1238627397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: err, that's bad hierarchy < 1238627400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that right ais523? < 1238627401 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vodka has simple system < 1238627401 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slow... < 1238627411 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-i < 1238627413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes but that is because it is in a real OS < 1238627414 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er -o < 1238627414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1238627423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what < 1238627428 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm not sure if I'm in a /dev < 1238627434 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like s/// regexp with some addons to change states while running < 1238627440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I said /home/ais523/mind < 1238627447 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes < 1238627447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster "corrected" it as /dev/ais523_mind, which is silly < 1238627453 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're both wrong, clearly < 1238627463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, real OS have flaws. Weird bits, ideal on the paper ones maybe doesn't. But there are always some dark corners in any actually existing OS < 1238627463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you think I keep my mind in a /filesystem/? < 1238627486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: er, there's nothing stopping you making /home/ais523/mind < 1238627492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a device file < 1238627498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thinking otherwise is just ignorance < 1238627500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, no, but there is a block device representing it < 1238627501 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, since ais523 IS a dev[eloper] < 1238627507 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he fits in /dev < 1238627508 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1238627515 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically speaking, I'm an engineer < 1238627517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there is. /home mounted nodev < 1238627527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: /dev mounted nodev < 1238627536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT NOW! Oh wait, you set your file system up retardedly so you get retarded results. < 1238627536 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: haha, you should so do that someday < 1238627541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, system wouldn't boot < 1238627547 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why not? < 1238627547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: who cares < 1238627549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's SECURE like that! < 1238627553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and FAST! < 1238627557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there's any technical reason why you can't boot with /dev set nodev < 1238627558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doing nothing is EXTRA SPEEDY. < 1238627563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you need more you could BENCHMARK IT < 1238627572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, /dev/console and /dev/null are needed at least for some core system parts. udev, init and a few other ones iirc < 1238627574 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it would depend on how your init worked < 1238627576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1238627584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: init can be very simple < 1238627596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you mean is /your/ system wouldn't boot, because your init is trying to be too clever < 1238627600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yeah but I meant on a GNU/Linux system < 1238627607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought you used that? < 1238627613 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, yes < 1238627620 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even so, you can get inits that don't care about /dev < 1238627621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm /dev/zero not /dev/null iirc < 1238627622 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then you can define delimiters < 1238627624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsure < 1238627633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could just set init to ash or something on the bootlodaer, for instance < 1238627647 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ash? < 1238627653 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a string that compiles to the base language in a previously defined way < 1238627656 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats thats esotericlanguage with all the parenthesises called? < 1238627656 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1238627659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it would want some tty I think < 1238627662 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[College]: one of the simplest shs around atm < 1238627667 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then in that language you can do the same etc etc < 1238627668 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you can have a tty without having /dev available < 1238627668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not sure how that would be handled.. < 1238627673 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1238627673 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/ais523_mind < 1238627675 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(map (lambda (x)(* x x)) '(1 2 3)) < 1238627680 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[College]: EPERM, luckily < 1238627684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I guess kernel hands it over as an open fd? < 1238627698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually invoking init would be weird I guess < 1238627698 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think so < 1238627704 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's probably just the serial connection < 1238627718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1238627719 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a kernel in brainfuck,then you have secured maintenance work for the rest of your life=the wya IT works < 1238627721 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the kernel invokes init by setting up memory as if it was a userspace process, then simulating fork/exec < 1238627730 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If EPERM means read-only, did you just say you never learn? < 1238627738 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, EPERM means you aren't allowed to do that < 1238627738 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is writing a toy-kernel hard? < 1238627744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's read-only for you, but isn't for me < 1238627749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kadaver: not particularly < 1238627763 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/ais523_mind < 1238627764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in UNIX, how readable or writable a file is depends on who's reading or writing < 1238627767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the same in Windows, actually < 1238627774 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[College]: you aren't in the admin group for my mind < 1238627777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I don't think I am < 1238627786 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((:[]) . join (*)) =<< [1, 2, 3] < 1238627825 0 :Judofyr_!n=Judofyr@c349BBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1238627917 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how many LOC can you get away with doing something minimal? I heard the initial linux kernel linus released was just 10K loc < 1238627927 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends on how minimal < 1238627940 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if all you want with your kernel is to run some minimal esolangs, you can do it well under a KB of machine code < 1238627954 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka isn't here, but IIRC he was working on something like that < 1238627958 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a live-esolang floppy disk < 1238627981 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1238627986 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm writing toy kernel < 1238628049 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it seems there's no working IRP interpreter currently < 1238628052 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiprocess kernel with a memory manager, own filesystem and multiple text terminal < 1238628056 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it sucks < 1238628060 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well i guess it depends on how you define kernel. what would en esolang kernel need to be able to do? < 1238628068 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: #IRP is actually surprisingly active today < 1238628075 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally it idles for weeks at a time < 1238628080 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kadaver: run esolangs < 1238628083 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm, really < 1238628086 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some esolangs have very small interps < 1238628099 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: it seems some teacher's set a university project on IRP < 1238628105 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all the students have been coming in there asking for help < 1238628115 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weirder things have happened, I suppose... < 1238628119 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRP? < 1238628121 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I missed that? < 1238628126 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any logs? < 1238628142 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't logged, unfortunately < 1238628160 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah this IRP < 1238628160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you saw the conversation with DH__, at least < 1238628188 0 :neldoreth!n=user@unixboard/users/neldoreth JOIN :#esoteric < 1238628193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... seems idle again < 1238628204 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lecture's probably over < 1238628230 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple text terminal = multiple windows? any graphics? < 1238628424 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1238628837 0 :Judofyr_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1238628925 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1238629090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1238629203 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nighty < 1238629242 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1238629421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://esolangs.org/wiki/Perl < 1238629447 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's been there for a while < 1238629452 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what to do about it < 1238629457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the article's also confusing, too < 1238629466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i was referring to the last section < 1238629468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is new < 1238629473 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1238629490 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that can be golfed by at least three characters < 1238629502 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably four, actually < 1238629508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how? < 1238629512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from removing the space < 1238629513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is boring < 1238629521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval join"\n",<> < 1238629533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when all you can shave off is whitespace and a ;, it's not cool any more. < 1238629544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :leaving them in is saying "I'm so good at golfing, I'm just going to leave this low-hanging fruit." < 1238629578 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :low-hanging fruit is generally the tastiest < 1238629587 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: heh < 1238629596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was going to change the \n to a literal newline < 1238629600 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what saves the last character < 1238629670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/usr/bin/env perl < 1238629670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Released under the MIT license. < 1238629671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1238629673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# TODO: add POD docs < 1238629675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use strict; < 1238629677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use warnings; < 1238629679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my @lines = <>; < 1238629681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my $code = join("\n", @lines); < 1238629683 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh... why is the newline even needed there? I thought that if you do <> in a list context, the elements returned still contain any newlines present. < 1238629684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval($code); < 1238629685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#- end of file - < 1238629687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, my whitespace was tarnished < 1238629689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/usr/bin/env perl < 1238629692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238629693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Released under the MIT license. < 1238629695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# < 1238629697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# TODO: add POD docs < 1238629700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238629701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use strict; < 1238629704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use warnings; < 1238629705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238629707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my @lines = <>; < 1238629709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my $code = join("\n", @lines); < 1238629711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238629713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval($code); < 1238629715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1238629717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#- end of file - < 1238629719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: eval isn't in a list context is it < 1238629721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eval join <> just reads one line < 1238629723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since the first argument is the sep < 1238629728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oh, you're right < 1238629737 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? join <> definitely uses <> in a list context. < 1238629744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1238629745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: perl -e'eval join <>' < 1238629747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only reads one line < 1238629750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this because _i tested it_ < 1238629752 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but "". < 1238629756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1238629757 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need a newline. < 1238629758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure. < 1238629773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :edited. < 1238629778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great, wiki formatting fucked it < 1238629793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fixed. < 1238629799 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl -0e'eval(<>)' < 1238629803 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considerably smaller again < 1238629807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no fair < 1238629812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's using the command line < 1238629818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, perl -0e'eval <>' is shorter still < 1238629819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, it doesn't need the parens < 1238629828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but `eval join '', <>;` doesn't use the command line, and is pretty < 1238629829 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and perl -0e'eval<>' is shorter still < 1238629833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so THERE < 1238629835 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the parens were to force list context < 1238629844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you don't need list context there < 1238629872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what is the value of $x after: < 1238629880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sub foo { return (1, 2, 3); } < 1238629883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my $x = foo(); < 1238629885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1238629893 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 I think < 1238629898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x_x < 1238629901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo returns an array, an array in scalar context returns its length < 1238629909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1238629913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant last element < 1238629914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1238629920 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that would be stupid < 1238629923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1238629931 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fis@eris:~$ perl -e 'sub foo { return (1, 2, 3); } my $x = foo(); print "x $x\n";' < 1238629931 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x 3 < 1238629931 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fis@eris:~$ perl -e 'sub foo { return (1, 1, 1); } my $x = foo(); print "x $x\n";' < 1238629931 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x 1 < 1238629945 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explain. < 1238629949 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... maybe I'm wrong < 1238629953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: guh < 1238629967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:~] % perl -e 'sub foo { return (1, 2, 7); } my $x = foo(); print "x $x\n";' < 1238629967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x 7 < 1238629971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes — that would be, and is, stupid. < 1238629971 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ugh, I think I'm too tired to think properly < 1238629980 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really didn't think it'd actually return the last element. < 1238629986 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The professor just put up his solution, and it's saner and less wtf'y than mine < 1238629986 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if you separate the my and the $x? < 1238629996 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, mine is a WTF < 1238629997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the my may be forcing list context < 1238630007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:~] % perl -e 'sub foo { return (1, 2, 7); } my $x; $x = foo(); print "x $x\n";' < 1238630007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x 7 < 1238630013 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aargh < 1238630014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:~] % perl -e 'sub foo { return (1, 2, 7); } $x = foo(); print "x $x\n";'x 7 < 1238630020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK PERL :-D < 1238630040 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rafb.net/p/pqWjyX34.html < 1238630043 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION slaps self < 1238630059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[College]: NOT RAFB < 1238630069 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which pastebin? < 1238630075 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I use? < 1238630078 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[College]: is that yours or the professors? < 1238630081 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, use rafb, it annoys ehird < 1238630083 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: mine < 1238630104 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's pretty elegant IMO, half the checks are redundant, but they make the code clearer < 1238630137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOGGET READERS: http://www.nopaste.com/p/atKQKnKjab < 1238630147 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First time writing it, I actually made the mistake of 90 <= num_grade <= 100 < 1238630149 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1238630156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :python lets you do that < 1238630170 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is even weirder is this: < 1238630171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say, is there an efficient way to do 'round x up to the nearest power of 2?' < 1238630172 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fis@eris:~$ perl -e 'sub foo { my @a = (1, 2, 7); return @a; } my $x; $x = foo(); print "x $x\n";' < 1238630172 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x 3 < 1238630178 0 :kadaver!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1238630178 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yep, see that bithacks thing < 1238630179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: LOL WAT < 1238630186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: relinketj? < 1238630195 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess "return @a" there is in a non-list context. Or what is happening? < 1238630201 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I've just figured it out < 1238630212 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're calling sub foo in a scalar context < 1238630213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:~] % perl -e 'sub foo { (1, 2, 7); } $x = foo(); print "x $x\n";' < 1238630213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x 7 < 1238630218 0 :cpt_obvious!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1238630218 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does it use the comma expression instead of list there in the return (1, 2, 7)? < 1238630221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well sure and? < 1238630221 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're writing return (1, 2, 7) < 1238630230 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that means the return is evaluated in a scalar context < 1238630235 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that's the comma operator, not an array literal < 1238630235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? < 1238630239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1238630243 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the subroutine parses differently depending on how you call it < 1238630244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just hideous < 1238630251 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone loves Perl! < 1238630254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it changes your code semantics depending on how it's called? < 1238630254 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, something like that was my guess too. Heh. < 1238630255 0 :Sgeo[College]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is CADIE done putting links on the side? < 1238630257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good lord < 1238630261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you imagine how much that breaks? < 1238630268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not very often, actually < 1238630279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1238630297 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fis@eris:~$ perl -e 'sub foo { return (1, 2, 7); } my $x = foo(); my @x = foo(); print "x-scalar $x, x-list ", join(" ", @x), "\n";' < 1238630297 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x-scalar 7, x-list 1 2 7 < 1238630298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: sorry, have an urge: i said how much, not how often < 1238630302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so your response is a non-sequitur < 1238630307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urge over < 1238630348 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think this sort of Perl nastiness is a nice point to go to sleep; night. < 1238630351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and scalar @x would be 3, in that case < 1238630359 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1238630365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night