< 1242000148 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242000632 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1242000775 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arggh this internet connection is horrible < 1242000792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it < 1242000805 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some shit rural dsl < 1242000828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what speed < 1242000862 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :advertised at 1.5 mbits down < 1242000868 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get less than that usually though < 1242000905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never understood having an expensive computer with shit internet :) < 1242000913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can buy mac pros with stylish apple 56k modems :p < 1242001031 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on a pentium 3 on 20Mbps down cable, currently < 1242001065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: owwww < 1242001067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kill yourself < 1242001071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1242001076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: Don't you run Windows? < 1242001083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :98? :-P < 1242001096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pentium 3s are interesting, they were cartridges < 1242001100 0 :Tarap!n=etarapid@roa76-6-82-238-233-207.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242001103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not flat squares < 1242001130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1242001131 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm borrowing a laptop while my replacement motherboard arrives < 1242001135 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on XP! < 1242001138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Katmais at least < 1242001142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: P3 on XP? < 1242001144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouuch. < 1242001153 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :597MHz, 192MB of RAM < 1242001159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X_X < 1242001167 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bullshit < 1242001179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1242001196 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, I've got a similar system. < 1242001196 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my router. < 1242001201 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it has only one USB port without the dock < 1242001211 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It's easy to understand shit Internet with expensive computer. < 1242001219 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're in the US. < 1242001220 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to have a computer with 192 mb of ram, the only thing that made it bearable was running a custom kernel and fluxbox < 1242001222 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet is shit here. < 1242001231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: maybe you do crazy computation all the time :P < 1242001232 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my external USB hard drive causes the USB port to stop working until I power off the laptop :) < 1242001242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fluxbox isn't lightweight < 1242001248 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1242001259 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[or was, i haven't looked at it forever] < 1242001267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: http://incise.org/not-so-tiny-window-managers.html < 1242001269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not :) < 1242001281 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're thinking of a different WM. < 1242001287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1242001293 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a virtual machine installed on this too, but I'm scared to run it < 1242001389 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, what units are those cited binary sizes in? < 1242001411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bytes < 1242001413 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume bytes. < 1242001415 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluxboxed used like 4 times less ram than anything else i used < 1242001435 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/xed/x/ < 1242001439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: It's more minimalist than metacity. It is NOT minimalist absolutely. < 1242001462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a total overview, it doesn't come up anywhere near the top for minimalism < 1242001465 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well metacity is massive < 1242001476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: at the time that article was made: < 1242001479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :metacity 49787 loc < 1242001479 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's less than a megabyte of binary. < 1242001484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fluxbox 20601 loc < 1242001487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: yeah, so massive. < 1242001493 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getting rid of all the desktop enviroment was a huge savings though < 1242001502 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one uses metacity without gnome < 1242001502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's an old article, and < 1242001503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a personal comment < 1242001503 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fluxbox is a 566 kilobyte binary. < 1242001503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This page is not to be taken too seriously. < 1242001508 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is light-weight. < 1242001511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the LOC counts are accurate. < 1242001520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and come on. < 1242001525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's define OS X's WM as "bloated". < 1242001530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG! METACITY IS SUPER-MINIMALIST! < 1242001546 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X's WM? Bloated? < 1242001549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Objectively rated, fluxbox ain't one of the more minimal WMs... < 1242001556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: in implementation? fuck yes! < 1242001572 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a windowing system, not just a window manager. < 1242001577 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to compare. < 1242001585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am referring to the SystemUIServer. < 1242001589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which does not include the Dock, etc < 1242001597 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know a utility I can abuse to pick a specific-numbered line from a file? < 1242001603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: head and tail < 1242001607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: tail +N | head -1 < 1242001608 0 :Tarap!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242001612 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1242001615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I was just pointing out that if you pick a starting point, anything can be minimalist. < 1242001620 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, my window manager is a 148 byte binary. < 1242001626 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1242001629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :148 kilobyte. < 1242001631 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeeze. < 1242001637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :148 bytes is cooler < 1242001651 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ratpoison is 148 kilobytes? That seems larger than is necessarry. < 1242001665 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though it *does* include a REPL. < 1242001696 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ratpoison is can't do crap though < 1242001699 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IIRC, the Ratpoison devs have started working on Stumpwm since Ratpoison was approaching a Lisp) < 1242001710 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: It manages windows. < 1242001711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah... ratpoison should have gone the OTHER direction! < 1242001716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't need a repl at all < 1242001718 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is just what it needs to do. < 1242001720 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: poorly < 1242001728 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bull. < 1242001730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed with bsmntbombdood on ratpoison's shittiness < 1242001743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm an anti-tilist < 1242001757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and anti-anti-mousist :P < 1242001776 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...that does not compute < 1242001783 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're in the infamous Reality Distortion Field. < 1242001787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like mice, bsmntbombdood. < 1242001793 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, i misread < 1242001803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I have thought exactly these thoughts since before I got this mac. < 1242001815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hold no special attachment to Apple other than liking the UI of OS X. < 1242001818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(To a degree.) < 1242001829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/inspiration.html ← this is where ratpoison comes from. I think it sums it up very accurately. < 1242001839 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, in that case, you just need to use the command-line more. < 1242001847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do, pikhq. < 1242001871 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many windows do you have open aside from terminals? < 1242001906 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ps aux|grep -c bash < 1242001908 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :142 < 1242001909 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1242001924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: browser windows (My tabbing/windowing distinction is complex and weird.), IM client (a) contact list (b) conversation window, this IRC window. < 1242001931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I use the graphical environment for things it is suited for. < 1242001939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use the terminal for things it is suited for. < 1242001971 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a web browser open. < 1242001972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just because I don't subscribe to a philosophy of a terminal's-galore-all-the-terminals-you-can-eat-buffet-just-$1,000 orgy doesn't mean I don't appreciate them. < 1242001997 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My IRC client is also my IM client, and it's on screen 0. < 1242002000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you're running an IRC client based on one of those cute things that badly emulate a graphical environment by using VT-100 codes, aren't you? < 1242002012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cute. it really is. < 1242002016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hf < 1242002019 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't emulate a graphical environment. < 1242002030 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what are you using>? < 1242002037 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Irssi, what else? < 1242002044 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for im? < 1242002044 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe RawIRC. < 1242002046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1242002052 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you use one of those proxies? < 1242002052 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitlbee for IM. < 1242002059 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is a proxy. < 1242002071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitlbee is awful < 1242002079 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it's not. < 1242002084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ended up contorting my IM conversational style to fit the ugly pseudo-IRC-channel emulation < 1242002084 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does a simple job and does it well. < 1242002097 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitlbee is a nice idea, but I don't like how it's implemented < 1242002097 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My step-mother told me that I have to write her a meaningful and sincere Mother's Day card, and that she'd bust up my computer if I didn't. < 1242002099 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, i use gaim and xchat < 1242002124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Might I interest you in small claims court? < 1242002125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: sounds like you have family issues. < 1242002130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtfo of there :-P < 1242002148 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :judy judy pwns small claims court < 1242002149 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I think it's only a threat, but still < 1242002155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: Judy^2. < 1242002180 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/y/ge/ < 1242002183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I like the concept of writing something sincere that is your true feelings under a threat. < 1242002190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so bizarrely illogical. < 1242002223 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, she only asked for meaningful and sincere. < 1242002230 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She didn't ask for a favorable impression of her. < 1242002235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mwahaha. < 1242002760 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (y)(ge)((Jud)S( )*S)a:^^ < 1242002761 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jud((Jud)S( )*S) < 1242002766 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck < 1242002786 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (y)(ge)((Jud)S( )*S):^^ < 1242002787 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jud(Jud)S( )*S ...bad insn! < 1242002790 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ul (y)(ge)((Jud)S( )*S)a:^^ < 1242002809 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (y)(ge)((Jud)S( )*S):^ < 1242002809 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jud(Jud)S( )*S < 1242002821 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1242002821 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supported commands: addinterp bf_txtgen daemon daemons delinterp fyb help info kill userinterps 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf16 bf32 bf8 bfbignum boolfuck c chiqrsx9p choo cintercal clcintercal cxx dimensifuck echo forth glass glypho hello kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor rot13 sadol sceql sh show slashes test trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl yodawg < 1242002822 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1242002829 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul (y)(ge)((Jud)S( )*S):*^ < 1242002829 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judge Judy < 1242002847 0 :WangZeDong!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-60-244.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242002866 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fungot's not here. < 1242002918 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda 9y)(ge)((Jud)S( )*S):*^ < 1242002919 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./interps/unlambda/unlambda.bin: file /tmp/input.8529: parse error < 1242002923 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda (y)(ge)((Jud)S( )*S):*^ < 1242002924 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./interps/unlambda/unlambda.bin: file /tmp/input.8565: parse error < 1242002939 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!underload (y)(ge)((Jud)S( )*S):*^ < 1242002950 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now what < 1242002975 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1242002975 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supported commands: addinterp bf_txtgen daemon daemons delinterp fyb help info kill userinterps 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf16 bf32 bf8 bfbignum boolfuck c chiqrsx9p choo cintercal clcintercal cxx dimensifuck echo forth glass glypho hello kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor rot13 sadol sceql sh show slashes test trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl yodawg < 1242002980 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!underload (y)(ge)((Jud)S( )*S):*^ < 1242002981 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judge Judy < 1242002988 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1242003406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq < 1242003407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is here. < 1242003410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:47 oerjan: ^ul (y)(ge)((Jud)S( )*S):*^ < 1242003410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:47 fungot: Judge Judy < 1242003412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just have him ignored < 1242003425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know this from when you mistakenly left your irssi config open on my box :-P) < 1242003442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1242003451 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda `.y```sii`. `.e`.g```sii`d`.d`.u`.Ji < 1242003451 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judge Judy < 1242003454 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/unignore fungot < 1242003455 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: and it is eta. f)) < 1242003466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: my brain is like a sponge for useless trivia :^) < 1242003586 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242003672 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!slashes /./Jud/.ge .y < 1242003673 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judge Judy < 1242003718 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:01 DCC CHAT from EgoBot [64.62.173.65 port 10052] < 1242003729 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesh. < 1242003733 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does that work? < 1242003744 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dcc chat < 1242003765 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I changed it to use DCC chat for remaining data so that it doesn't get kicked off. < 1242003767 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Direct connection to Egobot, and Egobot spills the entire output. < 1242003781 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02 Irssi: Starting query in freenode with =EgoBot < 1242003781 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02 =EgoBot> < 1242003781 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02 Irssi: Closing query with =EgoBot < 1242003781 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best way of handling that, IMO. < 1242003788 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not immensely useful :D < 1242003791 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1242003802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Get it to omit a single blank line. < 1242003802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1242003821 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's not my fault you sent too many newlines X-P < 1242003833 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't send _any_ newlines < 1242003839 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that's odd. < 1242003841 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!slashes /./Jud/.ge .y < 1242003841 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judge Judy < 1242003843 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does if read LN < 1242003854 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!slashes /./Jud/.ge .y < 1242003855 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judge Judy < 1242003855 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's that command < 1242003874 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo 'Judge Judy' < 1242003874 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judge Judy < 1242003884 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Strange. < 1242003888 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo 'Judge Judy' < 1242003889 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judge Judy < 1242003901 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I think I know why. < 1242003932 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION fixfix < 1242003997 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo 'Judge Judy' < 1242003997 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judge Judy < 1242004002 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo 'Judge Judy'; echo bleh < 1242004009 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............ < 1242004026 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I really killed it this time. < 1242004153 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242004156 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242004257 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dobleve te efe, when did EgoBot become so tempermental :P < 1242004278 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you fed it recently? < 1242004292 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the highest quality infant skulls. < 1242004320 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1242004344 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the corpse of the old EgoBot? < 1242004349 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember, you are what you eat. < 1242004396 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm that _could_ be a problem, if it computes like an infant < 1242004416 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are known to be temperamental, too < 1242004448 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: i suggest feeding it Vulcans in the future < 1242004514 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242004517 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242004702 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1242004703 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supported commands: addinterp bf_txtgen daemon daemons delinterp fyb help info kill userinterps 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf16 bf32 bf8 bfbignum boolfuck c chiqrsx9p choo cintercal clcintercal cxx dimensifuck echo forth glass glypho hello kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor rot13 sadol sceql sh show slashes test trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl yodawg < 1242004736 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!yodawg http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/interpreter.unl < 1242004737 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!slashes /./Jud/.ge .y < 1242004737 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Judge Judy < 1242004740 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character: < 1242004752 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242004771 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is "yodawg" an unlambda interpreter? :P < 1242004773 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION vaguely recalls that may have been a problem < 1242004775 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242004795 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried recursing < 1242004799 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show yodawg < 1242004799 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlambda (sending via DCC) < 1242004859 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!yodawg htttttttttttttttttttttt < 1242004859 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown function: h < 1242004865 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242004877 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the userinterps actually do recurse? < 1242004889 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what sense? < 1242004895 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can use URLs < 1242004899 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1242004999 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i vaguely recall there was a problem with recursing my unlambda interpreter if the base interp didn't distinguish all chars from EOF < 1242005035 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was just running out of file, the error should have been different < 1242005045 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242005256 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!yodawg http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/interpreter.unl2 < 1242005257 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown character: < 1242005260 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1242005273 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/interpreter.unl < 1242005294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242005298 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1242005298 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supported commands: addinterp bf_txtgen daemon daemons delinterp fyb help info kill userinterps 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf16 bf32 bf8 bfbignum boolfuck c chiqrsx9p choo cintercal clcintercal cxx dimensifuck echo forth glass glypho hello kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor rot13 sadol sceql sh show slashes test trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl yodawg < 1242005306 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/interpreter.unl < 1242005320 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not supposed to happen < 1242005364 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gives "Unexpected end of file" in a terminal < 1242005501 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's probably waiting forever for input. < 1242005502 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!unlambda http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/interpreter2.unl < 1242005503 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./interps/unlambda/unlambda.bin: file /tmp/input.10206: parse error < 1242005510 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1242005556 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't close stdin, it just doesn't send anything on stdin. < 1242005574 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242005757 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1242005804 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp r13 yodawg http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/rot13.unl < 1242005804 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter r13 installed. < 1242005812 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!r13 test < 1242005824 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1242005832 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show r13 < 1242005832 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is not a user interpreter! < 1242005843 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1242005852 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp r13 < 1242005852 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter r13 deleted. < 1242005856 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say so < 1242005859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242005891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help addinterp < 1242005892 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addinterp: !addinterp . Add a new interpreter to EgoBot. This interpreter will be run once every time you type ! , and receive the program code as input. < 1242005892 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unl? < 1242005909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, sure you got the parameters right? < 1242005925 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure < 1242005928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1242005935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, langauge is "yodawg"? < 1242005941 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp r13 unlambda http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/rot13.unl < 1242005942 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter r13 installed. < 1242005944 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was < 1242005948 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!r13 test < 1242005948 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grfg < 1242005954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what? < 1242005958 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "yodawg"? < 1242005969 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently using addinterp with a language that was already an addinterp didn't work < 1242005978 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yodawg = unlambda in unlambda < 1242006068 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp r13 < 1242006068 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter r13 deleted. < 1242006222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, report a bug to GregorR < 1242006314 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assumed he was listening :) < 1242006323 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : apparently using addinterp with a language that was already an addinterp didn't work < 1242006326 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm well aware of this. < 1242006328 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, i think that's a bit awkward to achieve < 1242006328 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This /can't/ work. < 1242006333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, why not < 1242006337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could make it wokr < 1242006338 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sends the program on stdin. < 1242006339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work* < 1242006342 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the other program on ... super-stdin? < 1242006355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, do like bf. use a @? < 1242006357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1242006364 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for my unlambda interp, you simply concat the stdins < 1242006366 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's language-and-interpreter-specific. < 1242006371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1242006377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :allow the user to specify style < 1242006383 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Blech >_> < 1242006390 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: How do you propose I accomplish that? < 1242006399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, add another parameter? < 1242006435 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what format? < 1242006436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like: concat|delimiter:*|delimiter:\0 < 1242006440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1242006452 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, you could support the most common styles < 1242006463 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only style I've ever heard of is having a delimiter :P < 1242006476 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all I can think of is "some delimiter char or chars" and concat < 1242006522 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it doesn't work for my unlambda interp, but for some it would be reasonable to add more file arguments < 1242006571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that too < 1242006583 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those that are not written in esolangs, in particular < 1242006590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, um < 1242006592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge? < 1242006599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242006600 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even ... was about to say < 1242006629 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's probably a way in intercal too < 1242006634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that befunge-98 in it supports that atm. Since I haven't got around to making a compile time option to disable SOCK while enabling file IO < 1242006637 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(modern versions) < 1242006713 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: oh also the delimiter for the other kind could be included in the program, for adduserinterp < 1242006730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1242006735 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night AnMaster < 1242006793 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if from a URL, the delimiter could be given after it < 1242006818 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess the possibility for features is endless, as usual < 1242006832 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you could have several URLs too) < 1242012623 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what wonderful conversations did i miss? < 1242012844 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, were you here for the Creatures stuff? < 1242012849 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no :o < 1242012953 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sent ultraviolent norns to random people against their will, so now worlds can be decimated < 1242012992 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1242013232 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"quat quot" < 1242014612 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-117-140.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242014615 0 :WangZeDong!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242024577 0 :WangZeDong!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-77-236.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242024628 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242025203 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-45-74.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242025936 0 :WangZeDong!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242028127 0 :nooga!n=nooga@86-63-114-141.sta.asta-net.com.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242028799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1242028800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1242028921 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242029967 0 :tombom!i=tombom@82.18.226.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242030229 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"The only thing I know is that I know nothing" < 1242030267 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1242030305 0 :lereah_!n=lereah@nanpc319.in2p3.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242031819 0 :lifthras1ir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242031888 0 :WangZeDong!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-76-30.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242032182 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242032595 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242032777 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242032810 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242036140 0 :lifthras1ir!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :lifthrasiir < 1242037736 0 :Dewi!n=dewi@124-171-216-236.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1242038075 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242039333 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1242043649 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-046-044.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242043652 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"What are you sinking about?" < 1242044309 0 :asiekierka!i=asiekier@078088180066.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1242044314 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uugh, I don't feel so good < 1242044322 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nah < 1242044327 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't stop me from making new C64 crap < 1242044333 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like PETSCIImator < 1242044449 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're a saint. < 1242045762 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242046129 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242047361 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242047637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1242047637 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supported commands: addinterp bf_txtgen daemon daemons delinterp fyb help info kill userinterps 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf16 bf32 bf8 bfbignum boolfuck c chiqrsx9p choo cintercal clcintercal cxx dimensifuck echo forth glass glypho hello kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor rot13 sadol sceql sh show slashes test trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl yodawg < 1242047646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello world! < 1242047649 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :110 ++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<++++++++.--------.+++.------.--------.>+.>. [194] < 1242047650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello world! < 1242047653 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :114 +++++++++++[>+++++++>+++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>-----.>++.+++++++..+++.>-.<++++++++.--------.+++.------.--------.>+.>-. [460] < 1242047655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242047663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the current shortest hello world in bf? < 1242047676 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lazyk (((SI)I)((SI)I)) < 1242047677 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't fork sub-program. < 1242047699 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster : look up on golf? < 1242047719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good idea < 1242047743 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO MAY INTERPRETERS < 1242047750 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MANY* < 1242047774 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help addinterp < 1242047775 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addinterp: !addinterp . Add a new interpreter to EgoBot. This interpreter will be run once every time you type ! , and receive the program code as input. < 1242047797 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...this lacks ONE language < 1242047800 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help asm < 1242047800 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I have no help for asm! < 1242047803 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augh < 1242047836 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1242047843 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems i'm going to program a deadfish interpreter for this now < 1242047864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_, changed nick recently? < 1242047864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242047864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the url now again < 1242047864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it had some non-googlable one < 1242047882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242047884 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asm is there < 1242047885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1242047895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just languages doesn't have help items < 1242047896 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do < 1242047899 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it assembler < 1242047903 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if it is, which one < 1242047937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 or x86_64 asm, with gas syntax < 1242047938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1242047975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov %rax,%rax < 1242047985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!asm mov %rax,%r99 < 1242047986 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does not compile. < 1242047987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242047995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems x86_64 gas style asm < 1242048002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1242048123 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, nah < 1242048128 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's my nick at work < 1242048135 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are slereah right? < 1242048139 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1242048160 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My home computer is also connected < 1242048162 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As WangZeDong < 1242048170 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_ is my work nickname < 1242048201 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242048253 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it interpret befunge < 1242048260 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cfunge < 1242048267 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, i meant < 1242048278 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it interpret befunge with only one line to use < 1242048290 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As normal, you just have only one line to use :-P < 1242048306 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why doesn't it support links to code < 1242048314 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it does? < 1242048318 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does? < 1242048332 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i can type !befunge http://asienet.site40.net/befungecodeblahblah.txt ? < 1242048346 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My question mark indicated I don't know for sure < 1242048352 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1242048354 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try it, not like anything can break... < 1242048485 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am quite sure it does support that. < 1242048507 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not completely sure, of course, but quite sure nevertheless. < 1242048529 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I could run fungot under it. :p < 1242048530 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: nope. i haven't tried. don't have " the internet is like finding poop in the toilet, but doesn't work in quile throw it away.... http://home.comcast.net/prunesquallor/ macro.txt < 1242048603 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/392quine.b < 1242048604 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :->++>+++>+>+>+++>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>++>+++>++>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>+>+>>+++>>+++>>>>>+++>+>>>>>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++>>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>>>+>+>>>+>+>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>++>+++>++>>+>+>++>+++>+>+>>+++>>>>>+++>+>>>>>++>+++>+++>+>>+++>>>+++>+>+++>+>>+++>>+++>>++[[>>+[>]++>++[<]<-]>+[>]<+<+++[<]<+]>+[>]++++>++[[<++++++++++++++++>-]<+++++++++.<] < 1242048623 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, it does. < 1242048653 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf32 http://www.hevanet.com/cristofd/brainfuck/fib.b < 1242048654 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 < 1242048667 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1242048673 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when there's too much output < 1242048676 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it opens a private chat session < 1242048687 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's only a couple of lines more, though. < 1242048699 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, EgoBot did it up to < 1242048700 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 5972304273877744135569338397692020533504 < 1242048706 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show fib < 1242048707 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>+10>+>+[[+5[>+8<-]>.<+6[>-8<-]+<3]>.>>[[-]<[>+<-]>>[<2+>+>-]<[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>[-]>+>+<3-[>+<-]]]]]]]]]]]+>>>]<3][] < 1242048708 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^fib < 1242048708 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55.89.144.233.377.610.987.1597.2584.4181.6765.10946.17711.28657.46368.75025.121393.196418.317811.514229.832040.1346269.2178309.3524578.5702887.9227465.14930352.24157817.39088169.632459 ... < 1242048877 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ,[.,] Hello! < 1242048884 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...erm? < 1242048904 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it uses the ! input separator, like fungot does. < 1242048904 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: manpage was a bit off)... well, in an fnord, etc < 1242048908 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ,[.,]!hello. < 1242048908 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello. < 1242048912 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf ,[.,]!Hello! < 1242048919 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not, then. < 1242048920 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1242048960 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'unno how it does input. < 1242049031 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BfNano: commands + and > < 1242049079 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hello hhh < 1242049082 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command (hhh) encountered < 1242049089 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hello h < 1242049090 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World < 1242049095 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hello hh < 1242049096 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command (hh) encountered < 1242049104 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_O < 1242049113 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hello h h < 1242049114 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command (h h) encountered < 1242049116 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hello h;h < 1242049117 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command (h;h) encountered < 1242049122 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shrug. < 1242049198 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bch 00101 < 1242049207 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh, so bch is not bct misspelled < 1242049222 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp bct bf http://www.bf-hacks.org/hacks/bct.b < 1242049224 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter bct installed. < 1242049228 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1242049249 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bct 1001001 < 1242049256 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hello http://www.cis.hut.fi/htkallas/hh.txt < 1242049258 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello World < 1242049281 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, putting two h's separated by a newline made it accept the first h, but it didn't do anything for the second. < 1242049516 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the !info for, though? A language or something else? < 1242049518 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!info < 1242049518 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot is a bot for running programs in esoteric programming languages. If you'd like to add support for your language to EgoBot, check out the source via mercurial at https://codu.org/projects/egobot/hg/ < 1242049526 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, just a generic note. < 1242049571 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I did a non-wrapping constant for 68 that's 1 byte smaller than the one on the wiki < 1242049609 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if going to the cell with the value counts as a byte (doing ">"), then it's the same size < 1242049626 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :++++[>++++<-]>+[<++++>-]> < 1242049638 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1242049640 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the last char is < < 1242049641 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not > < 1242050181 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 some bananas < 1242050182 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fbzr onananf < 1242050214 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :onan < 1242050215 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kekeke < 1242050224 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...nano!? < 1242050250 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know who Onan is < 1242050264 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242050272 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiki it < 1242050279 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too lazy < 1242050305 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Onan is a biblical figure < 1242050315 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1242050321 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know the English names < 1242050322 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :His name is linked to masturbation, though all he did was, you know, pull out < 1242050326 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And SPILL HIS SEED < 1242050407 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there BF code to output an 8-bit value as an in-te-ger < 1242050515 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 fbzr onananf < 1242050515 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some bananas < 1242050522 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We've got a bad case of duplicated functionality here. < 1242050536 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 jerk < 1242050537 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrex < 1242050546 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 onan wrex < 1242050547 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bana jerk < 1242050555 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^rot13 furrfu < 1242050556 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1242050610 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 shatbg < 1242050610 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1242050624 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242050627 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......errrrrrrrr < 1242050634 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: TALK < 1242050634 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: " what's food for, anyways?" " not exactly the daycare-place i was thinking < 1242050682 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 shatbg: lbh ner n wrex. qhqr, pna'g lbh or pbbyre? < 1242050683 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: you are a jerk. dude, can't you be cooler? < 1242050692 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot's being ignored here. < 1242050718 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 V'z abg cyrnfrq jvgu guvf! < 1242050719 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not pleased with this! < 1242050726 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We'd have botloops day and night otherwise. At least this way they're a bit discouraged. < 1242050744 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can still pull out my own megahal bot < 1242050768 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having the content of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy inside < 1242050770 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and NOTHING ELSE < 1242050870 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!rot13 http://esolangs.org/wiki/BrainClub < 1242050871 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1242050886 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...KUGZY? < 1242050894 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KUGZY < 1242050905 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think we have a hitchhikery style on fungot; I guess was too bored of just normal books at that point. < 1242050905 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i'm off to the left somewhere. < 1242050908 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1242050909 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp < 1242050916 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1242050926 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can do it then < 1242050929 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What format < 1242050931 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.TRN or .BRN < 1242050970 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck is style < 1242050991 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How he talks like to peoples < 1242050995 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have the books as text, but I don't think it'd be any more amusing than, say, discworld quotes. < 1242051008 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does fungot talk to people? < 1242051009 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: i need a train to tik since the bicycle is there. there is no standard way < 1242051014 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAH < 1242051027 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I also wanted to make a "IEEE" style, as in, all the IEEE info from wikipedia AND the specs if possible, pasted into a .TRN < 1242051036 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah < 1242051038 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make styles < 1242051043 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say stuff < 1242051044 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: i suspect that optimisations could be made to execute code as some apparently take callbacks. when a variable's value? < 1242051055 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you chose between styles? < 1242051065 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style jargon < 1242051066 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: jargon (Jargon File 4.2.0 or something) < 1242051066 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use "^style foo" from that list. < 1242051075 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Tell me something about bananas. < 1242051075 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say stuff < 1242051076 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: flame off. i suppose i should have been < 1242051076 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: a publisher that i have found out a certain special way. < 1242051081 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1242051081 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xDD < 1242051081 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon* lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp < 1242051088 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style nethack < 1242051088 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: nethack (NetHack 3.4.3 data.base, rumors.tru, rumors.fal) < 1242051089 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style darwin < 1242051089 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: darwin (Books by Charles Darwin -- you know, that evilution guy) < 1242051092 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asww < 1242051093 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say stuff < 1242051094 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww* < 1242051095 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: callorhinus ursinus, relative size, and their heights were much less liable to reversion :)/ upper part :) a true sheep dog " as i hear from professor agassiz and dr. johnson states that they ran at 3 or 4 years,/ numerous recorded cases :) retrievers, in which latter/ fibres :) this muscle diverge downwards, with/ laminae coated by minute micaceous scales; it alternates many times with a coarse-grained, greenish grauw < 1242051104 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1242051107 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, the "jargon" style is actually the UNIX-HATERS list and not a jargon file. "Known issue." < 1242051118 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Where can I download the Esolangs Wiki database < 1242051121 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As is Darwin using a whole lot of smileys. < 1242051146 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was a slight accident in building the Darwin language model, which managed to translate all "of" tokens into ":)", and all "the" tokens into "/". < 1242051146 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, fizzie, is it MegaHAL < 1242051193 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, you mean fungot-babble? No, it's just a bit of Funge. There's no sense in there, except what you make of it. < 1242051193 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: from/ varying accounts which i have just received your book, < 1242051215 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Could you please, one day, separate the fungot-babble code from the rest < 1242051216 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: aurora island, an upraised atoll. < 1242051220 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really want a chatterbot like that < 1242051227 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's better than MegaHAL :DD < 1242051251 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can you do it already < 1242051266 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just an unpruned n-gram model, with word selection directly from the n-gram frequencies with no smoothing. Anyway, I've got some C++ code for it too; I don't have it available right now, though. < 1242051276 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1242051284 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style fisher < 1242051284 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: fisher (Fisher corpus of transcribed telephone conversations) < 1242051286 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ...i didn't understand that sort of mathobabble < 1242051320 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, where can i get the database of the Esolang wiki < 1242051388 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've seen any public links to database dumps; it's no Wikipedia, after all. (Might not have noticed even if there were.) < 1242051396 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Augh < 1242051408 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I think I will need to make a .TRN file from the Wikipedia database < 1242051411 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*smiles* < 1242051415 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*smiles epicly* < 1242051422 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then notices he'd need a supercomputer for that* < 1242051444 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I have a "wikipedia" style already; it's a tiny fraction of all Talk: namespace pages. < 1242051447 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1242051447 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1242051453 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One 256ths, apparently. < 1242051459 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How do wikipedians speak? < 1242051460 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: fnord does not cover the informatics concept of structuring data, and the rating on other projects was brought up to stub class. user:betacommandbotbetacommandbot 08:22, 10 november 2007 ( utc)/small!-- template:unsignedip < 1242051468 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lolzorlol < 1242051478 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Okay, the wiki-markup filtering could've used some work.) < 1242051569 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will a YouTube style be good, as in, the largest "comment" videos, and all the comments from them pulled into one file < 1242051571 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the format, too < 1242051635 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example "Airbus A320 Plane Crash" is the winner, with nearly 32000 comments < 1242051659 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any mostly plain-text file is okay, preferrably something with one sensible IRC-length element (like a comment) per line. I did think about YouTube comments, but it'd have needed some extrication work. < 1242051670 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1242051676 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will just paste the entire thing < 1242051681 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sans the "usernames" < 1242051703 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also putting the bad ones < 1242051704 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and spam < 1242051743 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a way to remove everything that's before a word < 1242051745 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including that work < 1242051747 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :word* < 1242051756 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example: I have "aaa bbb ccc" and "ddd bbb fff" < 1242051769 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to remove everything on that line up to "bbb", or nothing if there's no "bbb" < 1242051779 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So the lines will become "ccc" and "fff" < 1242051788 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "aaa ccc" would become "aaa ccc" xD < 1242051795 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sed -e 's/.*bbb *//' is the crude solution. < 1242051829 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't have sed < 1242051831 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must... download < 1242051852 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, only putting like pages 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and 11 < 1242051856 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :625*6 comments though < 1242051864 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3750 < 1242051867 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDD < 1242051869 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from one video < 1242051870 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or nah < 1242051873 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only 625*3 < 1242051878 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from that video < 1242051990 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :342kb unformatted < 1242052019 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh, I don't have the computer with the language-model generation code turned on at the moment. Any fungot-babble-related things will have to be done later. < 1242052020 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i think my favorite would be ssilence of the lambs i like to collect baseball cards i'm not really < 1242052027 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1242052034 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't you just add a plaintext file < 1242052035 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1242052043 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't really work like that. < 1242052056 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could wake-on-lan the computer, but I've misplaced the MAC address. < 1242052101 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have put the code somewhere for downloading, though. < 1242052112 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242052118 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's going to be a while before i'm done < 1242052170 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, enough YTcrap < 1242052189 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now let's format it < 1242052359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how iterating over a list and just adding it back together ended up with transforming (1 2 3 4) into ((2 (1 ())) 3 4) < 1242052405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. found it. < 1242052408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242052438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any shorter way than (cons a (cons b t)), I want to append two elements to the head of the list t < 1242052449 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(language is R5RS) < 1242052454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION prods ehird < 1242052462 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`(,a ,b ,@t) if you don't mind the punctuation. < 1242052503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242052544 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely there's a list append < 1242052549 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(append (list a b) t) is reasonably readable too. < 1242052551 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like (append (a b) t) < 1242052553 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1242052556 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not much shorter, though. < 1242052570 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242052579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is more readable though < 1242052593 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact it is longer by two characters than the cons thing. < 1242052603 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: One more SED thing now < 1242052617 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If there is a line "bbb ccc" and "aaa ccc" < 1242052626 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, still more readable! < 1242052628 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"bbb ccc" should become "" < 1242052632 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and "aaa ccc" should become "" < 1242052633 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1242052639 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if bbb is at the beginning of the line < 1242052643 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the entire line is removed < 1242052658 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/^bbb/d < 1242052661 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/^bbb/d < 1242052673 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's not exactly what was wanted here, I think. < 1242052707 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If bbb is at the beginning of the line the entire line is removed" < 1242052715 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but that was just an example. < 1242052717 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it worked < 1242052726 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1242052731 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list is now formatted < 1242052737 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/^bbb/d removes all lines that start with bbb; is that what you wanted? < 1242052737 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's about 256kb < 1242052741 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1242052745 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1242052758 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway < 1242052760 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list is done < 1242052761 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I don't see how that's related to '"aaa ccc" should become ""'. But anyway. < 1242052762 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :256kb of comments < 1242052779 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said "bbb ccc" should become "" < 1242052780 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1242052786 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant "aaa ccc" = "aaa ccc" < 1242052790 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I chalked it up to a typo < 1242052792 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1242052794 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the pack has 2000 comments < 1242052801 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't seem to find the code, though. < 1242052813 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1500 from an AIRBUS A320 PLANE CRASH and 500 from an Obama-related video thing < 1242052840 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't suppose you happened to download that fungot language-model-building code? Someone was asking for it, even though I cautioned about it being really very user-unfriendly. < 1242052877 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Should I send the Youtube Comment-o-Mess < 1242052901 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242052906 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242052917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I didn't ask for it recently afaik < 1242052934 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not recently, no; this was rather long ago. But I might recall wrongly. < 1242052935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might have done ages ago < 1242052938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1242053012 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, maybe I can remote-boot that computer it's on. < 1242053089 0 :MizardX!n=MizardX@aurorum10-0.aurorum.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242053202 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, I got it booted. < 1242053232 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1242053275 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how do I get them comments? < 1242053277 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh butts. < 1242053288 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to do a powerpoint presentation thursday :( < 1242053499 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: email via private pl < 1242053500 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :z < 1242053851 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, fizzie got the "comment pack" < 1242053984 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let's see... it doesn't support reloading the style-list-file (even though it should), so I'll have to do a quick restart. < 1242053999 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242054025 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-35-142.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242054051 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eesh. Heh. Fungot doesn't recognize my authority, since I had a broken identd when connecting and I am now "n=fis@..." and not "i=fis@...". Heh. < 1242054073 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll need to do some reconnecting myself, too. < 1242054078 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242054080 0 :fizzie!i=fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242054107 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"stylish" < 1242054155 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242054160 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rather bouncy. < 1242054188 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so how's work < 1242054198 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should work. How do you feel, fungot? < 1242054198 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: to be under barack obama! wajajjajajjajajaja!!! < 1242054204 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excited, I see. < 1242054259 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: How's France? < 1242054259 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: why... why... why... why... why... why... why... why... i dont think it had pilots, no problems with relations p.s for the hell did the pilot, apart from its obvious characteristics its a computer < 1242054271 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1242054273 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough comments < 1242054280 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll either talk about planes or about Obama < 1242054297 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must find some more < 1242054306 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242054387 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION beholds < 1242054400 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-5-255.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242054402 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, some Max Payne-related comments there < 1242054515 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1242054515 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube* < 1242054518 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1242054518 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1242054521 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1242054521 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1242054602 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, say stuff < 1242054603 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: cause i know captain, he spent a year, whilst the co-pilot and president of the official aeronautic websites? < 1242054653 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soon done < 1242054677 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will also send you a copy of a book if you can add it < 1242054680 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not necessairly funny < 1242054681 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but useful < 1242054686 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Commodore 64 Programmers' Guide" < 1242054693 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>900kb of GOODNESS < 1242054696 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I tried that once. < 1242054700 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...You did? < 1242054706 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not on-channel. < 1242054709 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a copy of it, at the very least. < 1242054714 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what was the result? < 1242054718 0 :WangZeDong!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242054731 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have a different book, that's smaller, "Map the 64" < 1242054736 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't bother removing line-breaks, so it was a bit... abrupt. Bits of basic here and there. < 1242054746 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Map the 64" doesn't have much basic < 1242054746 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will have to leave now, though; I'll look at style-things later. < 1242054857 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :371kb of youtube comments < 1242054864 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a 521kb book < 1242054875 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, Deewiant, i will need your help with sed formatting < 1242054887 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1. How to remove all "empty except a newline" lines < 1242054899 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refer you to http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html < 1242054899 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2. How to remove every line starting with "::" and ending with "::" < 1242055007 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242055199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notes that this code would have been a lot clearer in Erlang than in Scheme. < 1242055442 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242056002 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1242056357 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat67.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1242057592 0 :MizardX-!n=MizardX@aurorum10-0.aurorum.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242057744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14:19 AnMaster notes that this code would have been a lot clearer in Erlang than in Scheme. < 1242057751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you not understand the concept of learning a language < 1242057784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ?? < 1242057793 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I suspect it would have been a lot clearer in Erlang than Unlambda < 1242057795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I do. I just note that erlang is better fit for this task < 1242057802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and quite a bit clearer in Unlambda than Malbolge < 1242057835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this task fits perfectly a language with advanced pattern matching on lists. < 1242057957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, compiling brainfuck? < 1242057962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're on crack < 1242057966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: protip: use SRFI-1. < 1242057984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just don't use scheme, since you evidently have some sort of mental block around learning a new paradigm < 1242058006 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and really, pattern matching libraries exist for more or less every real language nowadays < 1242058011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they don't have it built in < 1242058026 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCRE is perfectly capable, although rather inefficient, at doing list pattern matching, for instance < 1242058031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1242058034 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(rather inefficient because it deals with the lists in text form) < 1242058040 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1242058042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you're using Scheme, pattern matching is doin it rong < 1242058045 0 :MizardX!n=MizardX@aurorum10-0.aurorum.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242058047 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, agreed < 1242058049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : or just don't use scheme, since you evidently have some sort of mental block around learning a new paradigm <-- why do you think so? < 1242058059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you're probably writing Erlang in Scheme < 1242058061 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242058064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I've read < 1242058089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and today on Fucking Crazy Ways To Cool a Computer: Submerge all the components in oil. No, really. http://www.hardcorecomputer.com/ < 1242058106 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wouldn't your and get all sticky? < 1242058107 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/today/last year/ < 1242058120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I don't follow the field ;-) < 1242058120 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, what would people think? < 1242058120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I can't think of a better way to optimise a parse tree of bf than pattern matching. Sure there are other ways. In fact I'm doing closer to what I would do in C than what I would do in Erlang. < 1242058131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: Wouldn't your all and get all sticky indeed. < 1242058132 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I see a man with his hand covered in oil < 1242058138 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think only one thing < 1242058143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but pattern matching would make it so much easier < 1242058181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you've never seen a mineral-oil-cooled computer before? < 1242058187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Nope... < 1242058205 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen one in RL, but I've known about them for ages < 1242058221 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently the oil has a tendency to get into the inside of the wires connecting to peripherals, though < 1242058221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen them on internet. Old. < 1242058225 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and leak out of the keyboard < 1242058229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sort of ridiculous. You can't keep any of the components as spares because they're fucking oily forever :-P < 1242058232 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although using a wireless keyboard would probably avoid that problem < 1242058242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eurgh, imagine upgrading. < 1242058242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, :D < 1242058254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIRST, STICK YOUR NEW COMPONENT IN THE VAT OF OIL. IT IS NOW OILY. THEN, ATTACH IT. < 1242058260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOW, ATTEMPT TO GET OIL OFF YOUR HANDS AND FAIL MISERABLY. < 1242058268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :USE COMPUTER AS-IS. IT'S HARDCORE. < 1242058283 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus, what happens if it falls? < 1242058286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how they immerse it in oil and then still have to use four fans. < 1242058289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lereah_: "fails"? < 1242058294 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you have no carpet < 1242058294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's meant to touch the components. < 1242058297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1242058298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242058309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But seriously, with four fans you could probably watercool the same machine. < 1242058318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which doesn't involve putting all your components in oil. < 1242058336 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool it with molten lead < 1242058343 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's conductive! < 1242058347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1242058356 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would mercury work well, I wonder? < 1242058356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, this hardcore computing place is ridiculous. < 1242058360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can buy THREE gtx 285s. < 1242058369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering what kind of game needs three. < 1242058374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, hell, any task. < 1242058389 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jet simulation? < 1242058396 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iunno < 1242058413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"3 Intel 160GB SSDs in RAID 0" < 1242058432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering how you fill up 480GB with an OS drive. < 1242058494 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, three in one computer? < 1242058495 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easily, with games. < 1242058498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounds strange < 1242058498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yep. < 1242058501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Whaat? < 1242058507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Even Crysis doesn't use that much. < 1242058512 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crysis is one game. < 1242058530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ... running two games at once? < 1242058533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol wat < 1242058545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are going to do multi-screen installation for flightsim with built up cockpit you probably end up using multiple computers, one to render each screen. < 1242058547 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, having two games on disk at once. < 1242058558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, I was talking about the GTXs < 1242058560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than three graphics card in one computer < 1242058568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still, the top games are what, 10GB? < 1242058582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shrug. < 1242058582 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, these days around that much. < 1242058586 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um? Full scenery for Flightgear is 17 GB iirc < 1242058586 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242058597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot more for xplane and MSFS iirc < 1242058599 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and X-Plane is over 60. < 1242058605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ouch. < 1242058605 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But those aren't the norm. < 1242058606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that much? heh < 1242058623 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That sounds very weird... I've got about 40GB used on my /... < 1242058626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: In that case I'd buy an X25-M as a boot drive and a 300GB velociraptor as an apps drive :P < 1242058629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, remember that is scenery for all the world. :P < 1242058640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, they are immersing this shit in oil. < 1242058641 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that includes headers for everything, source for everything, and binary packages for everything. < 1242058648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's a rather excessive thing already. < 1242058666 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: In practice, I'd say around 200GB is enough for OS+apps even with a fair supply of games. < 1242058671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fail to see how that's excessive. Just very weird. < 1242058679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://hardcorecomputer.com < 1242058688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're riding on the "THIS IS SO FUCKING EXTREME." marketing wave. < 1242058692 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's retards. < 1242058703 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: More than enough. < 1242058718 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, for just OS+apps, a 50G hard drive can suffice. < 1242058725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION adds 6 of all three monitor types they offer (the max you can get0 < 1242058727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*) < 1242058729 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Not even close. < 1242058746 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, has Windows gone freaking crazy or something? < 1242058749 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got Linux+Vista taking up 70G currently. < 1242058754 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux includes apps, Vista doesn't. < 1242058755 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: are you trying to see how expensive you can make it? < 1242058759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yep < 1242058766 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got Linux taking up 34G.. < 1242058767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$27837 so far < 1242058771 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone played RobotWar or CoreLife? Both are programming games. < 1242058772 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see here... < 1242058779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've played robotwar. < 1242058780 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I play Robocode but that's it. < 1242058785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, no. < 1242058787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No I haven't. < 1242058788 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That includes: binaries, headers, source, binary packages, and C compiler cache. < 1242058790 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehird: original? < 1242058790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robocode i've played. < 1242058795 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And /tmp. < 1242058796 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay :-) < 1242058803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as I said: For built up cockpits with screens covering all of your viewfield outside the cockpit you end up with multiple computers. For example there is a JAS 39 Gripen simulator like that at one of the flight museums in Sweden, powered by a cluster of 8 computers that runs Linux. Simulator software? Custom from SAAB. < 1242058809 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And 100G for games isn't much, these days. < 1242058820 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Do you have a bot running on the roborumble? < 1242058821 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Damn. < 1242058823 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows *has* gone apeshit-crazy. < 1242058824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It sounds hilariously unfun to play. < 1242058825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a PR stunt from SAAB kind of. < 1242058830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 100G for multiple games < 1242058831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not one game < 1242058833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly :P < 1242058837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no < 1242058842 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1242058843 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oh, okay. < 1242058848 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's only slightly crazy. < 1242058849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay < 1242058851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Final price for the < 1242058854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REACTOR EXTREME < 1242058858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$28,796.00 < 1242058865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it only has 4GB of RAM! < 1242058869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even an i7! < 1242058874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What a ripoff ;-) < 1242058876 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jeeze. < 1242058885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/474504.txt?key=9fooyz1aoaayeghiixktfq < 1242058891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The graphics card is HARDCORE-CUSTOMIZED. < 1242058896 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ du -hsc Games < 1242058896 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :122G Games < 1242058898 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I could get roughly equal RAM and CPU for $200. < 1242058899 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1242058906 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not even very many games. < 1242058911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, it's DDR3. < 1242058915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah. < 1242058919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 650W power supplies < 1242058926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For redundancy in case you lose your game. < 1242058929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAN'T HAVE THAT HAPPENING. < 1242058938 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The leader is GTA4 at 15G. < 1242058938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'snot even a fuckin' blu ray burner! < 1242058943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact it's all rather crap. < 1242058949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is very realistic. Though the actual code is of course secret. SAAB made JAS 39 Gripen and it is in service currently in the Swedish Airforce + a few other airforces in different parts of the world. The public simulator thing is a PR stunt I guess. < 1242058950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~/gameemu/ is 7.6G, and ~/.wine/drive_c is 17G... < 1242058952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: can't you get 8GB RAM computers nowadays? < 1242058957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 12GB. < 1242058960 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I just play very light-weight games? < 1242058963 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1242058964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, up to 128GB. < 1242058966 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: My Vista install sans programs is 37G :-) < 1242058968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: But for desktops, 12GB. < 1242058976 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's just silly. < 1242058976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what bsmnt and I willen-havebeen. < 1242058980 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, Vista is. < 1242058981 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, I was wondering where you'd get a motherboard you could fit 128GB of ram into < 1242058984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm not up to date on the time travel pronouns). < 1242058999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :realistic here meaning: realistic handling, a bit too few screens covering the viewfield to give you the proper experience. < 1242059001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how much ram did our $80k have? < 1242059001 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just the OS, I haven't put anything extra there. < 1242059009 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 128GB. < 1242059012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1242059019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only ddr2 though :-P < 1242059021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough to reasonably have the OS in a RAM disk. < 1242059022 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1242059029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now THERE'S an idea. < 1242059046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242059048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what OS? < 1242059049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242059059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should assemble a machine that's the most powerful I can get to blow those hardcore computer assholes out of the water. < 1242059062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you could have Linux on a ram disk with much much less. < 1242059064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it'll probably cost 7 bajillion dollars. < 1242059093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then the way to go is a cluster < 1242059098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah. < 1242059099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latency. < 1242059104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, limit one case. < 1242059107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, better connections < 1242059108 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242059109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a desktop case. < 1242059115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eATX, of course. < 1242059118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, use that Infiband thingy of course < 1242059121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spelling?) < 1242059128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Infiniband. < 1242059131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242059167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Also a rack is a type of case :P < 1242059169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blade servers < 1242059172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Desktop case". < 1242059176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1242059186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see now... Two i7 965s... < 1242059189 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You could without *too* much effort get Linux on a RAM disk with 1G RAM... < 1242059214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115200 < 1242059216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1242059216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, um, I could get it on a ram disk with 32 MB RAM. Assuming I began using something like DSL < 1242059217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVGA E759 CLASSIFIED LIMITED EDITION 3-Way SLI (x16) + PhysX w/ECP & NF200 1366 Intel X58 EATX Intel Motherboard - Retail < 1242059217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242059219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excellent! < 1242059222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww, only 6 ram slots. < 1242059224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That won't do. < 1242059236 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right, right. < 1242059237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, In fact 16 MB would be enough I bet. < 1242059237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's only one. < 1242059240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a server motherboard. < 1242059251 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8MB would be enough, actually. < 1242059256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... hmm, but I also want three gfx carsd in SLI. < 1242059267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, pikhq all you need is kernel + minimal userland. Meaning busybox < 1242059267 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use a squashfs for your root FS, load the thing from a floppy. < 1242059273 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1242059274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS TOO CONFUSING ;;_;; < 1242059289 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kernel itself could be quite minimal. < 1242059316 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You wouldn't even need much in the way of drivers... < 1242059321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, my rather feature-filled x86_64 bzImage is 2.7 MB for 2.6.28. I have a few modules, stuff I rarely use, or stuff built out of tree. < 1242059352 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bzImage is 1.1MB... < 1242059361 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1242059366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost all the stuff built in? < 1242059368 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :initramfs. < 1242059369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no initramfs? < 1242059377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't use initramfs < 1242059380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My bzImage is 1.8M. < 1242059403 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My initramfs has no modules in there; it's there just to set up LVM. < 1242059422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so getting something down on a floppy would be quite possible. You could begin by dropping support for stuff like oprofile. < 1242059422 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you need to run pvscan for the actual device nodes to show up) < 1242059438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what not < 1242059441 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done it a few times just for the hell of it. < 1242059443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is it x86_64? < 1242059458 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux frodo 2.6.28-gentoo-r5 #2 PREEMPT Mon Apr 27 12:51:25 CDT 2009 x86_64 AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 2800+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux < 1242059462 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you think? ;) < 1242059465 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: now, try to get Vista on a RAM disk < 1242059509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I don't own a copy of vista, no idea how big it is < 1242059516 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: too big < 1242059517 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huge. < 1242059526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it still fit on one DVD, by the way? < 1242059540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you would probably need a few GB of ram at least for XP. + a few more for the actual XP < 1242059546 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only OS that could rival it in size is (arguably) Debian. < 1242059548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I assume Vista is larger < 1242059553 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why it is that big, given that it comes without drivers and without many applications < 1242059557 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you install everything, that is a huge installation. < 1242059558 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, without any but basic drivers < 1242059575 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but there's at least one disk space pedant in Debian < 1242059581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, it's hard to configure an excessive game machine... since you end up configuring just a regular gaming machine :-D < 1242059586 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242059587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn you gamers and your Poe's Law! < 1242059598 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing things like replacing all the copies of the GPL with a symlink to the centralised copy < 1242059599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, which law is that? < 1242059607 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that must save, what, a few tens of KB? < 1242059609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe's_Law < 1242059616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poe's Law states: < 1242059616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing. < 1242059628 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What, it's just 1 Bluray disc... < 1242059633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, um more. the GPL is a few tens of KB iirc :P < 1242059640 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;p < 1242059655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hah < 1242059996 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1242060148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: how big's that base vista install you said < 1242060157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242060158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :37G < 1242060159 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not a vanilla base < 1242060167 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's been running and updated and used < 1242060177 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And includes some stuff in Users/ etc < 1242060181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah < 1242060192 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still, no programs. :-P < 1242060210 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(For some values of "no") < 1242060224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quarkadine < 1242061090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you know how you said nobody big would sell a pre-watercooled machine since it'd be too risky? < 1242061093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Dell do. < 1242061162 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of companies do. < 1242061174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Dell's the first big company I've seen do it. < 1242061195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I remember that Apple did < 1242061200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. < 1242061202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from them :P < 1242061264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never said no big company would. Since I knew Apple used to. Though I probably said it was risky and I couldn't see why they did it. AND provided warrandy < 1242061267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :warranty* < 1242061381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure why it's actually risky. < 1242061387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fluid used isn't conductive. < 1242061450 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@dell6.cspub.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242061463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why'sit risky? < 1242061481 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: because sitting safe is just plain boring < 1242061493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :groan < 1242061503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: oerjan will sue you for violating his intellectual property rights < 1242061552 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i prefer to think of myself as his apprentice, so you know, he'll just be proud of my puns getting as bad as his! < 1242061585 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if a is nilpotent, then 1-a is a unit. < 1242061614 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wut < 1242061650 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted you to know that < 1242061693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Q: what is worst that can happen with cooling? A: Cooling fails. Q: What happens when Air cooling fails? A: System begins overheating, detects it and shuts down to prevent damage. Q: What is worst that can happen when water cooling fails? A: Depends on how. Pump failing? Same as aircooling. Water leaking? Fried computer. < 1242061695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: kk < 1242061702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Fail. < 1242061707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The fluid. Is not. Conductive. < 1242061713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No frying. < 1242061718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm aware of that it is distilled water. < 1242061723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's one option. < 1242061730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can buy coolant that is non-conductive. < 1242061742 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :distilled water is not conductive < 1242061747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1242061749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I said... < 1242061751 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242061753 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see! < 1242061757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was the previous clause of my sentence that applied. < 1242061808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, over time impurities due to wear on the water cooling system will enter the fluid. And if it leaks and there is dust on the mobo that is impure too. Potentially it could end up conductive. < 1242061819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's why you replace it often enough. < 1242061835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you're saying is "if you grossly undermaintain your PC it'll break". < 1242061838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shock, horror. < 1242061840 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could have like fish there, eating the dirt < 1242061842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Harddrive can fail. That is why you do backups often enough. < 1242061845 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or plankton < 1242061853 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, try another one.. < 1242061856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Watercooling can fail. That is why you replace the coolant often enough. < 1242061901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, You trust the users will do it? Users who don't make weekly backups? < 1242061934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or even better: daily) < 1242061941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... If the user knows what watercooling is, and doesn't say "WATER + ELECTRONICS? LOL!" they know how it works. < 1242061970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: besides, modern coolant only needs replacing once a year, IIRC. < 1242062051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Yeah it was much worse a few years ago. < 1242062488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chicken-Shit Asteroid Veers Away At Last Minute. http://www.theonion.com/content/news/chicken_shit_asteroid_veers_away < 1242062620 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to make a C64 OS O_O < 1242062628 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point that it has driver support < 1242062668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: give it a gui < 1242062676 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: See "Contiki" < 1242062680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I know < 1242062689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: also, take advantage of the crt display to increase the perceived resolution/colours, somehow < 1242062694 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crt display? < 1242062695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like subpixel rendering for blurry TVs :-D < 1242062699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1242062704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka a tv < 1242062707 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there is a HAX for PAL c64's < 1242062712 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that allows you to get 7 extra colors < 1242062726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: do that, and also take advantage of the fuzziness to make it look like it's higher-resolution < 1242062738 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I only have a 32 inch LCD TV < 1242062740 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's Full HD < 1242062753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: bullshit, go buy a shitty CRT. < 1242062761 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i don't have where to put it < 1242062766 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my desk is allocated to be free < 1242062769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on top of your head < 1242062787 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1242062787 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and my "other PC/TV space" is allocated with the TV, a DVD recorder, a scanner, a laptop and the C64 < 1242062789 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and gotta go < 1242062793 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :asie[afk] < 1242062814 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye was fun talking to you < 1242062844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1242064440 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-046-044.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242065533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, string formatting in R5RS, what is the best way? < 1242065547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Not. < 1242065556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :display, write and newline, pretty much. < 1242065570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's inconvenient, change your formatting. And try and only use strings at your I/O layer. < 1242065583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm... I guess file IO will work. < 1242065596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (string-append "a" "b" "c") < 1242065597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"abc" < 1242065597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm considering how to generate the C code from the program tree) < 1242065599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you may find that useful. < 1242065603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with number->string and the like < 1242065627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, was thinking how to turn '(add 2 5) into p[2]+=5; < 1242065636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: < 1242065638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the generated output < 1242065640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(case (car x) < 1242065645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ((add) ...)) < 1242065648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I already have that bit < 1242065655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: then: < 1242065668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just consider what do add in place of ... :P < 1242065675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(string-append "p[" (number->string (cadr x)) "] += " (number->string (caddr x))) < 1242065685 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... < 1242065697 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't the numbers be any expressions tho? < 1242065698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nasty, but works < 1242065726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, polynoms not yet implemented. They might be expressions later. < 1242065734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on when I get bored. < 1242065745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not nasty < 1242065758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you might also want < 1242065759 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah how's that nasty, that's the canonical way < 1242065786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, compared to for example python's %, C's snprintf(), erlang's io:format(), and so on it is nasty IMO < 1242065793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: (list-ref list k) is the kth element of list < 1242065795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fyi < 1242065811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but use c[ad]+r unless you have a reason not to < 1242065822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I know that. Just caddar is a lot easier to read :P < 1242065840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be nested list-ref < 1242065846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242065863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rips CD < 1242065874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however I find it confusing that head of second cons cell is cadr not cdar < 1242065875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it does take a bit to get used to scheme's attitude < 1242065880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems kind of backwards < 1242065884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not really, because < 1242065888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cadr x) = (car (cdr x)) < 1242065897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in the right applicative order < 1242065898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. Good point. < 1242065919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: note: you only have up to cddddr :-P < 1242065928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :library procedure: (caar pair) < 1242065928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :library procedure: (cadr pair) < 1242065929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : : < 1242065932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :library procedure: (cdddar pair) < 1242065935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :library procedure: (cddddr pair) < 1242065936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—r5rs < 1242065947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, if I needed that much, the data-structure I'm using is wrong :P < 1242065954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bingo < 1242065962 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a retarded limitation < 1242065972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242066046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, scheme is a very nice language. For knowing. It makes you program better in other languages. But it is not very nice to actually code in. Kind of like LFS is for Linux distros. It is useful to have done it, but you wouldn't want to use it as your everyday system. < 1242066057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disagree < 1242066065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's perfectly usable day-to-day, it just takes getting used to < 1242066074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to structure your program around Scheme < 1242066533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION defines < 1242066535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(define (cell-ref offset) < 1242066535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (string-append "p[" (number->string offset) "]")) < 1242066596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: -ref is possibly the wrong name; I'd go for -at < 1242066608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242066616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to recall -ref having some sort of defined meaning though it escapes me < 1242066623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what colour do you want your bike-shed? ;P < 1242066629 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: cyan < 1242066632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1242066632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it's so that an implementation can extend set! to take places, so you can do (set! (list-ref l k) x) < 1242066638 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I don't have a bike < 1242066640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I prefer ultramarine. < 1242066648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes, it's correct to define such a function < 1242066651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: for a bikeshed? Eww! < 1242066656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: actually, it's offsetted from the pointer, isn't it? < 1242066663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes < 1242066666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cell-offsetted-by, then, or something < 1242066682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it terribly matters, just nitpicking style concerns < 1242066685 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then it will break 80 columns, or I need a lot more new-lines < 1242066687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242066694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you're meant to do newlines < 1242066704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have two or more non-literal subexpressions, pretty mcuh < 1242066705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much < 1242066708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, but not everywhere < 1242066710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if you have a newline, each subform should go on its own line < 1242066711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you prefer: < 1242066718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if (eq? a b) < 1242066719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1242066722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if < 1242066726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (eq? a b) < 1242066729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's irrelevant. < 1242066740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If cell-offsetted-by is requiring newlines everywhere you need a new function anyway < 1242066894 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. Behaviour in BF is allowed to be undefined if you < below the first cell right? < 1242066906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes... < 1242066910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good. < 1242066917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, offsetted is a stupid name. Make that offset. < 1242066922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION skips the range checking < 1242066970 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is fond of the C way of handling walking off the array. < 1242066975 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You're in random memory!" < 1242066996 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(if someone is clever enough, they could write x86 assembly to memory doing that and execute it. :p < 1242067021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And you don't want to end up in the middle of invalid memory? < 1242067045 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It's undefined behavior, bitch. ;) < 1242067070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((Moss: [picks up phone] Hello, IT? Yah-hah? Have you tried forcing an expected reboot? You see the driver hooks the function by patching the system call table, so it's not safe to unload it unless another thread's about to jump in there and do its stuff, and you don't want to end up in the middle of invalid memory. < 1242067071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[laughs] < 1242067074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moss: Hello? < 1242067075 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1242067077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Editor's note: this is actually the wrong way around.)) < 1242067089 0 :asie[afk]!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :asiekierka < 1242067094 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back for a mili second < 1242067098 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :milisecond* < 1242067101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: Bye < 1242067104 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242067104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, source? < 1242067112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The IT Crowd. < 1242067115 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, an ASIE-STANDARD ESOTERIC milisecond < 1242067117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1242067124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_IT_Crowd < 1242067134 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is infinitely long until the one that declared it says that it ended < 1242067151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, link to that specific quote I meant < 1242067165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Err... how am I meant to link to a portion of an episode of a TV show? < 1242067180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got the transcript from IMDB. < 1242067208 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, this is too correct to be on a TV show. On TV it is all about hackers hammering the keyboard and seeing the image of the screen on their face. < 1242067209 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1242067220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1242067276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, that "see the image of the screen on their face". How is that supposed to work? As far as I know even from CRTs the light is emitted in more than one direction < 1242067281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't a projector! < 1242067286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: holoscreens. < 1242067325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: And to offset the accuracy of the quote, here's a dose of irony: < 1242067327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In a first for Channel 4, each episode of the first series was available for download via the station's web site for the seven days preceding its initial TV broadcast. Downloads were only available for UK and Ireland viewers and were supplied in Windows Media Video format. All but the first two episodes were encoded with DRM restrictions." < 1242067329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that doesn't make sense for non-sci-fi movies though. < 1242067343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and computers in movies generally don't :-P < 1242067360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but that system call mention did make complete sense! < 1242067371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it is a windows driver < 1242067371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit of cognitive dissonance here I see. < 1242067398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm just having a hard time coming to terms with _accurate_ computers on TV... < 1242067403 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242067411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you should have a nice relaxing sleep instead of thinking about it ;-) < 1242067517 0 :jix_!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-085-001.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242067559 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242067736 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-47-99.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242067863 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :asie[afk] < 1242068171 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242068196 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@dell6.cspub.utu.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242068200 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm back! < 1242068205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1242068458 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Proclamation of invalidity!" < 1242068592 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-13-106.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242068724 0 :asie[afk]!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :asiekierka < 1242068726 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm back < 1242068734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1242068751 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242068758 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242068768 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: You're back < 1242068768 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: there is not funny and that they would not have i ' twisted' now? oh, and he maintains that he cycled the throttle quadrant full up and the copilot pierre mazieres ( 10836 flight hours). < 1242068774 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait... < 1242068776 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1242068777 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube* < 1242068784 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doh, forgot to turn on the youtube comment style < 1242068788 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn off* < 1242068860 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, the youtube comment method is nice < 1242068877 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Fun Thing About Youtube Comments #1: They can be used to generate new youtube comments! < 1242068878 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bye for now, need to let a friend in. < 1242068881 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1242068895 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"PJIRC @ http://webirk.dy.fi" < 1242069176 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"brb" < 1242069364 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-085-001.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242069636 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@f-61.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1242069656 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-129-241.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242069981 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw an episode of that IT crowd thing the-day-before-yesterday; hadn't even heard about it before. < 1242070046 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my computer still isn't here :( < 1242070052 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YLE, our local BBC equivalent, is even broadcasting it; but we don't have a television-machine any more. < 1242070058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beider meinhof! < 1242070074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: how many times have you ordered stuff online? < 1242070077 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's been en route to commerce city for like a year < 1242070089 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: every time, it's exactly like this :P < 1242070103 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, http://xkcd.com/281/ < 1242070119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: i bet you haven't done it much before or you'd expect this :p < 1242070136 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I certainly was reloading the package-tracking page of that new router-box every five minutes or so. < 1242070185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1242070206 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in R5RS. What is the name of stdout? I couldn't find it in the spec. < 1242070215 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean to treat it as a file for IO purposes. < 1242070224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: A file? No such thing. Do you want a port? < 1242070235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that was what I meant. < 1242070243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: (current-output-port) < 1242070262 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :io ports in r[56]rs suck ass < 1242070264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't think you can actually change it in R5RS, heh.) < 1242070266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, basically I want the same code for output to stdout and to a file. And that would work. < 1242070284 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Sure you can; call-with-output-file alters the (current-output-port). < 1242070284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: It works ok most of the time. R5RS isn't really designed for IO heavy stuff. < 1242070285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um, using the other with output thing right? < 1242070290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Ah. True enough. < 1242070301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot what those things did. < 1242070315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, shouldn't we be like Riastradh? Procedure names are IN-UPPERCASE-ALWAYS. < 1242070358 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does make sense when on irc < 1242070370 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to be fair, he doesn't capitalize them in normal code < 1242070374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he does it in documentation < 1242070387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Riastradh? < 1242070395 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, right, I meant with-output-to-file; call-with-output-file is the one that calls the provided procedure with the port as the argument. < 1242070396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Famous #scheme-er. < 1242070399 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: #scheme's guru < 1242070400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah. < 1242070408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: If you can stand him, I guess. < 1242070432 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is much more helpful than zhivago < 1242070437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True enough. < 1242070453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IME reading R5RS & the impl's docs & googling is more helpful than #scheme. < 1242070481 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://community.schemewiki.org/?riastradh has all the known information about him. Well, maybe not quite all. < 1242070672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First Law of #scheme Convo-Dynamics < 1242070673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All conversations eventually degenerate to bot abuse. < 1242070673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second Law of #scheme Convo-Dynamics < 1242070676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All bot abuse eventually degenerates to yow! < 1242070677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Third Law of #scheme Convo-Dynamics < 1242070682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never abuse the bots so that they will flood the channel. < 1242070686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We obey the first :-P < 1242070691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And might obey the second if we had a lambdabot. < 1242070696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But #3 is the devil. < 1242070705 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sadly fungot has EgoBot blocked < 1242070705 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: what, even if the plane to land on it it was doing a google search for air france 296. < 1242070713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242070716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a googling plain < 1242070718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*plane < 1242070721 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...stupid youtube comment database < 1242070722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although plain works too < 1242070736 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...for which i already have additions < 1242070738 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and plan to add more < 1242070818 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: ehird is cool, right? < 1242070819 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: can't the french government. the autoland is a list of plane at the station, then i am wrong, but this was not programmed into the conversation is that there were 130 passengers for one of their planes crash cuz autopilot cantot be overided controled remotly. it was not ' wud', and he never married and always hung out around guys. < 1242070837 0 :MizardX!i=MizardX@92.254.128.248 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242070843 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First Law of YouTube Comments (Schrodinger's Comment): < 1242070856 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before you read a Youtube comment, it's in a state of both good and bad. < 1242070860 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second Law of YouTube Comments: < 1242070869 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combining YouTube Comments creates a new YouTube Comment. < 1242070886 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Third Law of YouTube Comments: < 1242070893 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They create great bot databases, thanks to law #2 < 1242070903 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: A320-111 < 1242070903 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: search google for " remote controlled, they scramble when ever anyone brings up a little over 3,000. granted, any crash is unacceptable but i think < 1242070914 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rather like the Fisher transcribed telephone speech corpus; at least it sounds like conversation. < 1242070917 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1242070917 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube* < 1242070921 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ff8 < 1242070922 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1242070923 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1242070933 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: 136 occupants < 1242070935 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only had the script for FF7. < 1242070939 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww < 1242070945 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242070948 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1242070949 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1242070965 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fizzie, should I send you the better version of the YouTube Comment pack (150kb larger) < 1242070968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: grep -r '.* [\d:]+ .*' | maekfungotdb < 1242070968 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: lol that was flippen hilarious! i guess its a plane < 1242070974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: :DD < 1242070974 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: we all know this accident is similar to the families of the majority survived. < 1242070977 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, if you want it updated. < 1242070977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: :DD < 1242070978 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: but there is no way similar to the plane < 1242070985 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND the "Map the 64" one with the :: Blah :: stuff removed < 1242070987 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: indeed. just like buddha < 1242070987 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: lmfao! xd lol!! :) the speed bled off. i'm going to fly was changed at the trees. < 1242071063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"EU to Charge Intel with Anti-Competitive Acts" < 1242071064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - EU antitrust regulators are expected to say this week that Intel Corp illegally paid computer makers to postpone or cancel the launch of products containing chips made by its main rival, sources familiar with the case said on Sunday. " < 1242071067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1242071108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In committing the first violation, Intel set percentages of its own chips that it wanted PC makers to use, the sources said. " Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the makers _agree_? < 1242071159 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :currently at 398kb < 1242071176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: just screenscrape yt < 1242071210 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i'm just copying the whole text < 1242071215 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then removing the beginning and the end < 1242071217 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then running sed 3 times < 1242071218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242071222 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :formatting different stuff < 1242071224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just automate it with a script. < 1242071227 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oh < 1242071229 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242071431 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1242071434 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the script is done < 1242071440 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yt_format.bat input_file output_file < 1242071474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka: automate the loading of the pages and extracting the comments too < 1242071475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dur < 1242071480 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: too lazy < 1242071488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... it saves work < 1242071489 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe if I'm bored < 1242071503 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, actually, nah < 1242071568 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :456kb < 1242071581 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6304 lines < 1242071679 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :476kb now < 1242071707 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, the last bundle, 126 comments < 1242071711 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before "v2" of YouTube style comes < 1242071735 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you have any specific requests for comments from videos < 1242071740 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you think they're useful or just funny < 1242071742 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it now < 1242071785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"No Inverses for Injective but Non-Surjective Functions?" < 1242071822 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no movie like it < 1242071825 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanted... links < 1242071845 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm taking comments from a variety of videos < 1242071856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not talking about that < 1242071862 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242071863 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, uh < 1242071867 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sending v2 to fizzie < 1242071934 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with the C64 style < 1242071934 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :done < 1242071936 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :asie[brb] < 1242072333 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, there's an updated juutuubery style in fungot now. < 1242072333 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: rotfl!! < 1242072344 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: It's not that funny, really. < 1242072345 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: lol wow that was shooting at it" and enjoy knowledge. or if its a retard! controlled crash < 1242072349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Be a jew. < 1242072349 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i thought it would). its a terrorst training video we better get gwb on to another crash < 1242072357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we better get gwb on to another crash? < 1242072363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds post-treasonist, fungot. < 1242072364 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: scary...... i got tits up on the ' tenor' roles... no matter what she wants to be a tomboy and then whazamm first language eitherl, so, then it's trying to land, gear down at an airshow < 1242072399 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I can tell, it is rather youtube indeed. < 1242072557 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The C64 text is again tricky since it doesn't have clear separation between paragraphs; if I just feed it as-is, it learns the line-breaks as reasonable spots for starting/stopping a quote, and then it is very abrupt. For book-use I should probably have a script that'd heuristize sentences based on plausible "."s and put START/END tokens in place with that. < 1242072615 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242072620 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well then < 1242072634 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1242072634 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube* < 1242072636 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style youtube < 1242072636 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: youtube (Some YouTube comments) < 1242072643 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Heh < 1242072643 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie[brb]: yeah, that was insane!! try to be so hard on ed he really can go into a forest at over 200mph? wikipedia should not be allowed to show that the movie < 1242072656 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does seem to have a two-space indentation at the start of most paragraphs, maybe I could use that. < 1242072672 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: and yes it IS youtube comments < 1242072687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1242072688 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feel free to add more < 1242072690 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1242072701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how many did you base it on < 1242072713 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I made the youtube style thing < 1242072719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1242072722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on how many? < 1242072727 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't know but it has about 6878 lines ATM < 1242072734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. < 1242072734 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many are newlines though < 1242072734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not many. He did it manually. < 1242072737 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'd say about 6000 < 1242072744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, to bad < 1242072746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too* < 1242072751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, he did it to bad. < 1242072759 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will add more over time though < 1242072766 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie[brb], you should be able to script it, parsing the html < 1242072770 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may < 1242072770 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's some 500k of text, still; it's not the smallest language model there is. < 1242072777 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what's the largest < 1242072784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doing it by hand is just wasted work. < 1242072786 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, there's 492kb < 1242072791 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I do it half-by hand < 1242072800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, which is the largest and smallest? < 1242072801 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I copy-paste it and remove the beginning and end by hand < 1242072804 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"irc" is the largest; "europarl" second. < 1242072805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I've told him this, but the secret is that asie[brb] can't really code properly. < 1242072813 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i parse it through a series of sed commands < 1242072822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah right. Forgot that... < 1242072826 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes i can, but i'm too lazy < 1242072828 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242072829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... the sed commands being written by fizzie and ... Deewiant? Iirc. < 1242072830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*iirc < 1242072831 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242072834 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think yes < 1242072844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. You could just remove said beginning/end with sed too < 1242072845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242072849 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The "ic" intercal style is the smallest. (These are generated model sizes, which depend on the N in n-gram; I don't have the original sizes handy.) < 1242072851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNPOSSIBLE < 1242072862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: surely the wp talk: would be biggest raw; you had to use a cluster, right? < 1242072873 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ic < 1242072874 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ic (INTERCAL manual) < 1242072877 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Hello < 1242072877 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asie[brb]: w018 that was modified with `maybe' is atomic with the status of being unlike any other given type). < 1242072895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"status of being unlike any other given type" :D < 1242072897 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must make an Engrish language model < 1242072903 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe a Polish language model too < 1242072906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242072907 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I probably used a smaller n-gram length there. And it's only 1/256ths of Talk: pages; that's not much. But yes, I think I had to run something on the larger-memory machines at work. < 1242072915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242072923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how much power does the cluster have? < 1242072924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm curious < 1242072959 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Well, it's no huge thing. I think there's.. about 80 cores in it; 20*2 + 10*4. Let's see what sort of hardware. < 1242072960 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I wonder whether will you put up the source < 1242072973 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if < 1242072987 0 :tombom!n=tombomp@82.31.41.188 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242072990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That's huge enough for me ;-) < 1242072998 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For really hard-core computation we're encouraged to use csc.fi's ("center for scientific computation" or something) resources. < 1242073013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, just buy a CX1 :-P < 1242073029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Cray's "On-Your-Desktop" supercomputer thing; just a load of powerful Xeons stuck together.) < 1242073033 0 :tombom_!n=tombomp@82.31.41.188 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242073041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://www.cray.com/products/CX1.aspx) < 1242073052 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Now try 1/64ths of Talk pages! < 1242073067 0 :comex!n=comex@teklinks.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1242073070 0 :tombom_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242073071 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, put an Oxford English dictionary or something to it < 1242073071 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242073081 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with the Megahal .TRN file containing simple sentences < 1242073091 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1242073092 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :going off < 1242073099 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242073101 0 :asie[brb]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1242073119 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242073131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, question: If a function in Scheme has no useful return value, what is the idiomatic return value to use? < 1242073138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for that output one for example. < 1242073146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Just Don't Think About It. < 1242073151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um? < 1242073153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1242073153 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: There's: "20 IBM eServer 325: 2 x AMD Opteron 248 (2.2 GHz, 1 MB of L2 cache), 4 GB of memory in 16 nodes, 12 GB in 4" (the old set) plus "10 Dell PowerEdge SC1435: 2 x AMD Opteron SE 2220 (2.8 GHz, 2 MB cache), 16 GB of memory"; the later Opterons are dual-core things, so that's 40 cores from there even though there are only 10 nodes. < 1242073157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let the last call drop through; if it's an output call, it'll DTRT, AnMaster. < 1242073162 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a *that* new cluster, after all. < 1242073171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally need an explicit "NOTHING LOL", do (if #f #f). < 1242073195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, except it is the then branch of the (if (null? tree) return (output stuff and tail recurse)) < 1242073197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The result being "unspecific", which is what R5RS calls it's-like,-whatever return values.) < 1242073199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1242073206 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1242073212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: (if (not (null? tree)) output stuff and tail recurse) < 1242073217 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant could probably enumerate what sort of a cluster the TCS lab, which is nowadays part of the same department (but with the computer systems still partially separate), has. < 1242073221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it is null, the if returns an unspecific value, which is what you want. < 1242073244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:19 fizzie: ehird: There's: "20 IBM eServer 325: 2 x AMD Opteron 248 (2.2 GHz, 1 MB of L2 cache), 4 GB of memory in 16 nodes, 12 GB in 4" (the old set) plus "10 Dell PowerEdge SC1435: 2 x AMD Opteron SE 2220 (2.8 GHz, 2 MB cache), 16 GB of memory"; the later Opterons are dual-core things, so that's 40 cores from there even though there are only 10 nodes. < 1242073248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, except mzscheme complains if you don't have an else branch... And I'm trying to make it portable. < 1242073248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay that's pretty regular < 1242073253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "Complains"? < 1242073259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it rejects the code, it is R5RS-incompliant. < 1242073262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is perfectly valid, proper code. < 1242073269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (if (#t) #f) < 1242073269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readline::7: if: bad syntax (must have an "else" expression) in: (if (#t) #f) < 1242073270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MzScheme can whine if it wants; it's perfectly normal. < 1242073272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242073272 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzscheme needs to be run as "r5rs" to work sensibly nowadays. < 1242073275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that, except not for the REPL < 1242073277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(#t)"? < 1242073282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What fizzie said, btw. < 1242073283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, just as a short example < 1242073289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MzScheme is not R5RS, AnMaster. < 1242073291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hm true < 1242073294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, it uses immutable conses by default. < 1242073296 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it doesn't really work sensibly as "r5rs" either, I guess. < 1242073303 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's closer, anyway. < 1242073303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using its default mode on R5RS code is just retarded. Don't do it. < 1242073313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fair enough < 1242073329 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That "every if must have an else" is very silly, though. < 1242073334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verily. < 1242073352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like the PLT people want an almost-purely-functional language based on Scheme, really. < 1242073458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> < 1242073458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : G�>�> < 1242073458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : G�>� < 1242073458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : G�>� < 1242073459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1242073465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is rlwrap scheme48 < 1242073472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something is seriously messed up < 1242073473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Ah. Don't do that, then. < 1242073476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's my s48 alias: < 1242073477 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The TCS cluster, which is I guess part of our department now at least in a bureaucratic sense, even if not in practice, adds another ten nodes of 2*2-core Xeon 5130 computers. < 1242073478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I need readline! < 1242073480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s48='rlwrap -i -q '\''"\'\'' scheme48' < 1242073481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do that. < 1242073484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242073485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As an alias. < 1242073487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242073488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do < 1242073492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rlwraps. < 1242073518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rlwrap: error: unknown option -- q < 1242073520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try 'rlwrap --help' for more information < 1242073524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fail < 1242073526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Update rlwrap. < 1242073535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't say fail when it's your own damn fault. < 1242073539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, using rlwrap 0.30 < 1242073543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what version do you have < 1242073544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ditto. < 1242073551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then: "huh"? < 1242073601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: % rlwrap -i -q \'\" scheme48 < 1242073605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesn't work, I don't know < 1242073622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same error < 1242073630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what is that -q supposed to do < 1242073635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: quote characters. < 1242073640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's wrong, ' is not a quote character. < 1242073648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rlwrap -i -q \" scheme48 is right < 1242073652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: rlwrap --help < 1242073655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pastebin the output < 1242073669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, Scheme 48 REPL tip: if your prompt starts with a number, ^D. You're in an error level.) < 1242073690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rafb.net/p/5F6pcE97.html < 1242073699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : -q --quote-characters= < 1242073706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How exactly are you running rlwrap? < 1242073753 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm. seems it was an issue with unicode and ISO-whatever causing a hidden half unicode char on the input line < 1242073754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242073759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet. < 1242073772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you know. konsole set to UTF-8, and the wrong locale < 1242073796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong locale due to messing with that before today when some app needed C locale (but reported yeah!) < 1242073807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: anyway, `rlwrap -i -q '"' scheme48` in $PATH/s48 or alias s48="rlwrap -i -q '\"\' scheme48" in .profile, then you can just don't-worry-be-happy < 1242073826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: But you should be using the REPL from Emacs. < 1242073830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why aren't you? < 1242073837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I didn't like that quack. Tried it < 1242073840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't like it < 1242073846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So just use inferior-scheme. < 1242073852 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1242073859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the normal scheme mode. Right < 1242073862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1242073865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inferior-scheme. < 1242073870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1242073870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What you get by doing C-c C-l in scheme-mode. < 1242073928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, when I disable my own binding of C-c C-l in .emacs it says it isn't bound. < 1242073938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in scheme mode yes < 1242073946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. What was the keybindng. < 1242073958 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my local one? < 1242073972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1242073973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm thinking. < 1242073987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is "search this line on google in w3m-mode, open new w3m buffer if none found" < 1242073988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242073995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't ask. < 1242073997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1242074017 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually I rather like drscheme's scheme editing mode. < 1242074026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you recall what the load-this-file-in-repl command was in emacs? < 1242074029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :took a bit getting used to. < 1242074052 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so very not an Emacser that I don't. < 1242074060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrrrrrrrrrm < 1242074061 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"just a moment" < 1242074085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, a nano-er? < 1242074101 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242074103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or pico-er? joe-er? < 1242074115 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A vimmer, actually. < 1242074135 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An alcohol induced bout of sickness that occurs immediately after you awaken from the fuzzy night. AKA a hangover." Yes. < 1242074138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, how do you enumerate the list of styles in fungot? < 1242074138 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: jsr listen basic to make the transition from having a dollar sign (): < 1242074144 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just say ^style. < 1242074147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242074149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in the code < 1242074153 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1242074160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember any "list files in directory" < 1242074164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: C-c C-l. < 1242074170 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a file it reads them and the descriptions from. < 1242074177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I said it didn't do it! < 1242074192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may be a Quack thing. < 1242074200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: M-x run-scheme, anyway. < 1242074235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is activated with quack yes. But I didn't like quack. It had a "tab is evil option" but no "space is evil" option :P < 1242074251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't indent Scheme code with just tabs, AnMaster. < 1242074257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a hard-core "tab for indent, space for adjustment" < 1242074261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes I know :( < 1242074268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's the problem with Quack? < 1242074274 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It actually "i"s in the "styles.list" file; the file needs to contain real \0s to terminate the names and the list, since they're directly read with STRN/G and such. It makes it a bit trickier to edit, but much friendlier for the Funge-98 code to use. < 1242074276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1242074281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well also it didn't do what I wanted < 1242074286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is < 1242074295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't remember exactly what. It was yesterday! < 1242074320 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it lacks a feature you want, so you remove it, thus having even less features and still not the one you want. < 1242074329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes < 1242074330 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comments < 1242074340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1242074347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, try tab on a line with a comment < 1242074352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it indents it to the other margin < 1242074362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... so disable that? < 1242074364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than aligning it properly with the code < 1242074368 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, couldn't find that option < 1242074378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on, the file is tiny. < 1242074380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just change the binding. < 1242074403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm looking in customise buffer duh :P < 1242074410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So don't do that. < 1242074430 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, too much work. I'm happy using normal scheme mode, or drscheme < 1242074442 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also just use a different amount of ;s. < 1242074443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then don't ask me to help? < 1242074448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what fizzie said. < 1242074451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're probably doin it rong. < 1242074460 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Single ;s indent to margin, ;;s to the "code place", and ;;;s to first column. Or some such thing. < 1242074470 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though of course not everyone likes that system. < 1242074478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the more or less standard, though. < 1242074490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;; for normal comments is ubiquitous; so's the ;;; for "global" comments. < 1242074504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what about the ; one then? < 1242074513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally not used much. < 1242074520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You probably don't have to. < 1242074562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, drscheme indents all to the code's place < 1242074568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice. < 1242074576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, " Though of course not everyone likes that system." < 1242074577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1242074579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In general, ;;; never goes inside of code. < 1242074585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So DrScheme would DTRT. < 1242074641 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242074679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the amount of bass sound you get would depend mostly on the speaker right? Or does the sound card also affect it? < 1242074690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really know that sort of stuff. < 1242074711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It depends on using Monster(TM) Cable(R)s. < 1242074723 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was also some commentifying system with meaningful four-;;;; comments, but I've forgotten what those meant. Probably some sort of module-level comments, whereas you can use ;;;s outside "top-level" (define)s. < 1242074727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ... please be serious. < 1242074736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ;;;; is top-of-file-header comment < 1242074741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :description, copyright etc < 1242074748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um wouldn't that be ;;; ? < 1242074751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;; is column-one commenty thingies < 1242074755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1242074756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;; is code-y commenties < 1242074762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :; is in-line commenties, although I rarely see that. < 1242074811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erlang uses %%% for top-of file, %% for function, % for inline. < 1242074822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inline being "indented to code" < 1242074833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By inline I mean on-the-same-line-as-some-code. < 1242074833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, < 1242074836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(foo bar) ; stuff < 1242074840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs < 1242074841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;; jsdfsdf < 1242074842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;; sdfjsdfkds < 1242074844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(foo bar) < 1242074847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs < 1242074853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;; Now we must recalculate the < 1242074856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in erlang that is more or less bad style < 1242074859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;; jickobobs. To do this we floob. < 1242074859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same line as code that is < 1242074860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs < 1242074869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;; Calculates dinky-donks. (C) Elliott Hird 2009 Mega-Proprietary < 1242074882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I always disliked "same line as code" < 1242074888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with one exception: < 1242074891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like it either; that's why I don't do it. < 1242074893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not very common. < 1242074895 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can probably just convert your Erlang %s into ;s and add one ; more, and skip using single-;s at all. < 1242074895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :member of structs < 1242074897 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is ok < 1242074913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Except for the ;;;; summary of file vs ;;; summary of section thing. < 1242074923 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah. < 1242074923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes using 5 ; just because < 1242074929 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242074935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOXED! < 1242074938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's obnoxious. < 1242074942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a 5-; width border. < 1242074944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242074948 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boxed with ;;;s gives a pleasant stipply stipple. < 1242074967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1242074967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;; stipply stipple ;;; < 1242074968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1242074996 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like a shaded rectangle, except not at all. < 1242074998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://mumble.net/~campbell/scheme/cps.scm Here's some code that demonstrates the basic commenty style. < 1242075026 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242075027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about this: < 1242075031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1242075032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1242075032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1242075032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;; ;;;;; < 1242075032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;; Output C-code ;;;;; < 1242075032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;; ;;;;; < 1242075034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1242075038 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1242075040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; < 1242075042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs < 1242075066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'(ANMASTER THIS IS FROM THE ORIGINAL SCHEME COMPILER RABBIT IT IS IN UPPER CASE http://mumble.net/~campbell/scheme/rabbit.scm) < 1242075071 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡Syntax error! < 1242075085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'(IT IS VERY THE UGLY) < 1242075112 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡Señor, está un syntax error! < 1242075131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'(DOES THIS RUN GRACENOTES) < 1242075146 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡No! < 1242075177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarious. kate's syntax highlighting of scheme fails on upper-case DECLARE < 1242075185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1242075185 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242075188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242075196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DECLARE ISN'T ACTUALLY IN SCHEME AnMaster. < 1242075197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the -*-LISP-*- at the top < 1242075198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it < 1242075207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true < 1242075209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTUALLY THAT RABBIT THING IS IN LISP I THINK < 1242075209 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¡ɹoɹɹə xɐʇuʎs < 1242075213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I THINK IT MODIFIED MACLISP TO BE SCHEME < 1242075223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE; IT'S JUST WEIRD. < 1242075224 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-*-ICE-CREAM-WITH-SPRINKLES-*- < 1242075232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-*-FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-*- < 1242075239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes that is what I said. kate doesn't interpret emacs style mode lines < 1242075248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UPPER CASE LETTERS WERE INVENTED IN 1985 < 1242075305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the hell is the lisp one in kate -_- < 1242075327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: There's no such thing as "Lisp" < 1242075335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that file is Scheme, but with lots of MACLISP features. < 1242075340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since RABBIT was written in MACLISP. < 1242075363 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EHIRD I THINK THE TERM YOU DESIRE IS "MAJUSCULE" < 1242075369 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE TERM EVERYONE DESIRES IS "MAJUSCULE" < 1242075378 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DESIRE YOUR MAJUSCULENESS < 1242075400 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OOH YOU ARE SUCH A MAJUSCULE MAN. < 1242075409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it fails at upper-case DEFINE too < 1242075411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME FOR A MAJUSCULE ORGY, I THINK. < 1242075415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but manages lower case define fine < 1242075431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: PLEASE SHUT UP WE ARE BUSY HAVING AN ORGY. < 1242075439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVEN IF THOSE TWO HAVEN'T REALISED IT YET. < 1242075480 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You people can make even uppercase letters sound dirty. It must be some sort of gift. < 1242075502 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like time for a miniscule orgy < 1242075503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREASED (MAJUSCULE) CAPITAL LETTERS < 1242075521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: WE ARE MINISCULE MEN IN A MAJUSCULE ORGY ... THAT OF LIFE < 1242075572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I'M PRETTY DEEP < 1242075799 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ul ((MAJU )(scule ))(~:^:S~:S*a~^*a*~:^):^ < 1242075799 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scule MAJU MAJU scule scule MAJU scule MAJU MAJU scule MAJU scule scule MAJU MAJU scule scule MAJU scule MAJU MAJU scule scule MAJU MAJU scule MAJU scule scule MAJU scule MAJU MAJU scule MAJU scule scule MAJU MAJU scule scule MAJU scule MAJU MAJU scule MAJU scule scule MAJU scule MAJU MAJU scule scule MAJU MAJU scule MAJU ...too much output! < 1242075819 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... I'm 30 minutes in to Primer and I understand it so far < 1242075842 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not anticipate feeling this way in another 30 minutes, but, whateva. < 1242076062 0 :freakcrow!n=chatzill@200.17.200.171 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242076076 0 :freakcrow!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242076089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: ooh, primer. < 1242076093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it good < 1242076106 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed so < 1242076189 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeedy so. < 1242076191 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242076514 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1242077176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"People were not forced into this style, you can still access your friend’s private members" < 1242077262 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to access your private member < 1242077267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was the joke. < 1242077308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it can compile hello world < 1242077317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much optimising yet. Won't be today at least < 1242077321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1242077323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit optimising < 1242077324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :show the code < 1242077364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, with the caveat (sp?): it needs cleaning up really. I'm well aware of that. < 1242077374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Caveat is correct. < 1242077390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the one-more-nested function than needed in parse < 1242077391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how you most often say sp when you get a tricky thing correct. < 1242077400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sad :/ < 1242077421 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cavaet < 1242077423 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! < 1242077432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :caviaraet < 1242077450 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :caviar < 1242077456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was what i was going for < 1242077460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and it might be that I correct with aspell but wasn't sure I selected the right alternative. < 1242077469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is very often the case < 1242077474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/1419649 < 1242077477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1242077485 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o plz nao < 1242077498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, what? < 1242077506 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nutin. < 1242077517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes it needs cleaning up < 1242077521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;; This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify < 1242077521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;; it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by < 1242077523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;; the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or < 1242077525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;; (at your option) any later version. < 1242077529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1242077530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GPL 4: All your codes are belong to me. < 1242077548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Saw comments starting with single ; that weren't inline; didn't read. < 1242077555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scsws;twi;dr < 1242077561 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242077568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might fix in a later version < 1242077574 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;;; This program contains communism < 1242077583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the data structure is messy yes, this is because I changed the format in the middle < 1242077588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Saw ad-hoc type declarations; didn't read. < 1242077590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I found out the original didn't work < 1242077599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what ad-hoc one in specific? < 1242077604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of them. < 1242077611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not coding Haskell. < 1242077615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um? All declarations? < 1242077619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :; (func input-list initially-empty-outputlist) => output-list < 1242077621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those things. < 1242077625 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1242077640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Helps me remember what format the function should have < 1242077648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's bad style. < 1242077651 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is a function passed to that! < 1242077658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so then it helps < 1242077663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's bad style. < 1242077665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why < 1242077672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it simply is? < 1242077677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a valid answer < 1242077680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main( int v) {{return v+ < 1242077682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7;}} < 1242077684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suggest a better one < 1242077685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's bad C style. < 1242077694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, suggest a better one in this case < 1242077696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it just isn't the convention, ffs < 1242077700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a better what < 1242077718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: A better what. < 1242077723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, to describe that the function passed to as the parameter func should take two lists and return a list < 1242077731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the relevant parameter types < 1242077745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either describe it in plain english or just let the parameter names speak for themselves. < 1242077756 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why < 1242077757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, your define-recur-then-call recur could be named lets. Also, < 1242077759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ) < 1242077760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ) < 1242077761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ) < 1242077764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To steal a phrase you like to use: FAIL. < 1242077781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Also, your define-recur-then-call recur could be named lets. <-- could yes. But why should be? < 1242077782 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) < 1242077792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Because that's what named lets are designed for! < 1242077802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm assuming you don't know what a named let is. < 1242077802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ehird, with the caveat (sp?): it needs cleaning up really. I'm well aware of that. < 1242077811 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it needs cleaning up. I'm well aware of that. < 1242077818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'm reading some code, I'm going to comment on what's wrong with it. < 1242077830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I shouldn't have pasted it clearly. < 1242077837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know for the future < 1242077860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. Your code is a panacea; the very mark of good style and clearly all differences are flaws on the part of the differer. < 1242077917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "I know it needs a cleanup" is silly, since you've evidently not noticed some of the things I've pointed out, since you've challenged them. < 1242077953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no. But I already said it needed cleaning up. And I know what named let is. I just find this way clearer. Since it is what SICP used. < 1242077963 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember seeing named let in SICP < 1242077971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SICP uses a minimal set of Scheme because it is a teaching material. < 1242077995 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so? I learned scheme from that :P. And fixnum. < 1242078007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scheme in Fixnum days? < 1242078010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That book is terrible. < 1242078011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242078016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and SICP < 1242078016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What it implements is nothing close to Scheme semantics. < 1242078029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, iirc you recommended it back then < 1242078032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And SICP is not how you learn how to write Scheme. < 1242078036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait < 1242078040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking about another scheme-fixnum < 1242078043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1242078055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a tutorial called build yourself a scheme in 48 hours, or something. < 1242078061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brain s/48/fixnum/ for some reason. < 1242078069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/dorai/t-y-scheme/t-y-scheme.html < 1242078072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know now. < 1242078073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the one I meant < 1242078083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, SICP isn't how you learn to write Scheme; it's how you learn the concepts behind it. < 1242078097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes. But the coding style stuck :P < 1242078109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SICP's coding style is fine for its minimal subset. < 1242078280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suire.... But the coding style _stuck_. < 1242078289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you said "suck". < 1242078299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no. < 1242078325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I would have said "sucks" then wouldn't I? < 1242078337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not the first time you've made a similar mistake < 1242078357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is because my s-key is kind of "wonky" (right word?) < 1242078372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's fine. Also "shitty" :p < 1242078398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I plan to get a new keyboard < 1242078409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of those split ones < 1242078430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew. < 1242078439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1242078443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get a Model M or something :p < 1242078445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, like jwz has. < 1242078453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without the melting < 1242078455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't mind the noise and have strong fingers, the Model M is excellent. < 1242078459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and scratching < 1242078467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do mind the noise and have weak fingers so it's not perfect for me. < 1242078535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I have strong fingers. I do mind the noise. I would prefer not to have to have my hands straight ahead when typing, instead of in the shape of a triangle (seen from above) < 1242078544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes I'm using a standard full size keyboard < 1242078553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My hands are pretty triangulary with this regular keyboard. < 1242078571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the noise isn't as bad as you may be lead to believe; you can buy mechanical tactile-but-no-noise kbs, too. < 1242078584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the arms in a triangular shape with yourself as the base of the triangle < 1242078589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what I meant < 1242078611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I know. < 1242078615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I have. < 1242078624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I tried a split keyboard recently. It was AWESOEM < 1242078627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWESOME* < 1242078639 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan to buy one myself. < 1242078654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your loss < 1242078659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, have you ever used one of those split ones? < 1242078664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure. < 1242078673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes it should have the mechanical feeling if possible < 1242078676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not how I use a keyboard; my hands collaborate on both sides. < 1242078677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the split bit is better < 1242078692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/better/more important/ < 1242078702 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow this is good music < 1242078714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bought some new cds. < 1242078736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1242078743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242078761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ripped/listened to a CD today too, but probably not anything anybody here likes :p < 1242078765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know really good music? Special feeling < 1242078775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1242078775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :physically I mean < 1242078790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: I need your scientific prowess. < 1242078798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems AnMaster has discovered how to convert porn into audial form. < 1242078802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1242078803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Research will commence immediately. < 1242078814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to figure out "gåshud" in English < 1242078823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is when the hairs on your body stand up < 1242078826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know? < 1242078831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goosebumps. < 1242078832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the arms and/or legs < 1242078833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242078837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how similar... < 1242078850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Swedish one is "gose skin" < 1242078851 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242078879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway you can get goosebumps from really good music. Music that really touches your mind and feelings. < 1242078882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technically it's called piloerection. < 1242078885 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in German we say "Gänsehaut" < 1242078892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess you get it if you're a pillow with an erection. < 1242078897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't quote me on that one. < 1242078901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hah < 1242078914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but you know what I mean about music giving that right? < 1242078929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shur < 1242078939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[that sounds like gregor] < 1242078948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well these four CDs have been giving that on every track so far! < 1242078957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on the third cd atm. < 1242078961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes, Britney spears does that to you. < 1242078964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242078966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kraus < 1242078967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1242078970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAME THING. < 1242078971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, NAXOS 8.553734 < 1242078981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kraus was reincarnated as Britney Spears. < 1242078985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well known fact. < 1242078994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that makes no sense. < 1242079001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It stands to reason. < 1242079026 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this has a very strong feeling of Sturm und Drang. < 1242079035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1242079049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glorbenschnitzel. < 1242079057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what does that mean < 1242079064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glorbenschnitzel. < 1242079084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in English < 1242079097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242079103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glorbenschnitzel. < 1242079112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in some other phrase < 1242079124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schnitzel of the glorben. < 1242079141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what "glorben" is < 1242079141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No definitions were found for Glorbenschnitzel. < 1242079156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean: define:Globen Schnitzel < 1242079160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No definitions were found for Globen Schnitzel. < 1242079166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How odd. < 1242079172 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242079175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :globen < 1242079179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or glorben? < 1242079183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glorben. < 1242079189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you mean: define:Globen < 1242079189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No definitions were found for Glorben. < 1242079193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitions of Globen on the Web: < 1242079193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Stockholm Globe Arena or, in Swedish, Globen ("The Globe") is the national indoor arena in Stockholm Globe City, Sweden. < 1242079193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globen < 1242079194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird < 1242079199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, explain it the < 1242079200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right < 1242079200 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then* < 1242079202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's globen < 1242079204 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mennä kananlihalle" is the Finnish version of getting goosebumps, which directly translates to something like "go/turn to chicken flesh". < 1242079218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schnitzel is "that-was-schnitzel-of-the-intaking" < 1242079221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you meant a schnitzel from globen!? < 1242079237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly. < 1242079243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't schnitzel some sort of bread < 1242079258 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it would feed a lot of people < 1242079264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :considering how large Globen is < 1242079281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets just say: Best viewed from a moderate distance < 1242079322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. It's from the poem "Globen Schnitzel": < 1242079322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Globen- schnitzel, < 1242079323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of-the-feeding crowd, < 1242079325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the-intaking-of- schnitzel, < 1242079327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schnitzel of globen. < 1242079335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you are making this up < 1242079347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell that to Haurenhoff, the author. < 1242079380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you are making that up still < 1242079394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the moving verse two: < 1242079395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be schnitzel, < 1242079396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes the-feeding-of from < 1242079398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Globen beseech-to-see-not < 1242079400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the evils, unto you, < 1242079402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :globen schnitzel. < 1242079404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, this is all translated from Ancient Hartunian < 1242079410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, [citation needed] < 1242079411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some elements of subtlety may be lost in the process. < 1242079463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Svettekelte on to which < 1242079463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we see, here-today < 1242079465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the globen of giving < 1242079467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do seek unto us < 1242079469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a globen schnitzel < 1242079471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shared among. < 1242079473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verse three. < 1242079497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, [citation needed] < 1242079497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, [citation needed] < 1242079498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, [citation needed] < 1242079531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, and unto us < 1242079531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was-spoken: < 1242079533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Citation thus?" < 1242079535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thusly, we see, < 1242079537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :globen schnitzel - < 1242079539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need no citee! < 1242079541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Verse four, written shortly after the invention of rhyme. < 1242079670 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: a "Grubenschnitzel" is a box with plastic snippets, used in pole vault < 1242079695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe: A globenschnitzel is like that, except it's in the Globen. < 1242079698 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe, wth is "pole vault" < 1242079703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It contains bread. < 1242079714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pole vaulting is an athletic field event in which a person uses a long, flexible pole (which today is usually made either of fiberglass or carbon fiber) as an aid to leap over a bar. Pole jumping competitions were known to the ancient Greeks, as well as the Cretans and Celts. It has been a full medal event at the Olympic Games since 1896 for men and since 2000 for women. < 1242079715 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&search=stabhochsprung < 1242079717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly. < 1242079751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe, why did you link that < 1242079757 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242079757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's really that? Okay. < 1242079782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KingOfKarlsruhe, it is just translation < 1242079859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually that would be funny. Since the Olympics probably have been played in Globen at some point, what with it being (iirc) the largest sports arena in Sweden. < 1242079870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I care much about sports < 1242079875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1242079984 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time for the next bf-to-C compiler: in-between < 1242080057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a modular backend < 1242080068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can output both C and Erlang and so on < 1242080172 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And BF :P < 1242080175 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf-to-bf < 1242080222 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bf optimizer? < 1242080314 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242080374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1242080378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would be possible < 1242080382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the most stupid bf < 1242080389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like: < 1242080394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_textgen blah < 1242080398 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen blah < 1242080400 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :60 ++++++++++++[>++++++++>+++++++++>+><<<<-]>++.>.<-.>----.>--. [678] < 1242080402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see < 1242080404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>< < 1242080408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can be optimised away < 1242080410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVEN IN PURE BF < 1242080474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, but really I'm not aiming as high are esotope-bf < 1242080481 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1242080497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, you need to update optimising page iirc. It seems you optimise more now? < 1242080504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why are you not using fputs() < 1242080522 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, DCE is implemented < 1242080551 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and... oh, i thought that fputs prints trailing newline but that wasn't. < 1242080567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is puts() that does < 1242080570 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1242080575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fputs() and \0 < 1242080576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1242080580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need fwrite() for that < 1242080582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my fault < 1242080607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Esotope Brainfuck compiler is currently written in Python (2.5 or later). It is a part of Esotope project, which plans to give advanced implementation" < 1242080608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242080614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, which other ones do you plan < 1242080621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"of every esoteric programming language." < 1242080622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1242080626 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not sane < 1242080635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you aren't planning to do INTERCAL right? < 1242080640 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are some you CAN'T do < 1242080645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like those uncomputable ones < 1242080650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like those un computable ones < 1242080652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1242080667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readline fail < 1242080679 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: of course for implementable ones. and that is just a plan; i'm very certain that it will never be finished < 1242080684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly. Anyway I blame it on whatever line editing is used) < 1242080706 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, is it esotope-pyfunge now? < 1242080723 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: without name change, yes. < 1242080752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir, will all be in python? :( < 1242080757 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope. < 1242080767 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor they will be integrated. < 1242080769 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will never be* < 1242080776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242080785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"nor will they nerver be integrated"? < 1242080801 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean they will never be integrated. sorry. < 1242080803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :double negative detected. Please stand by when parsing. < 1242080810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1242080833 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes i even fail to produce correct statement in my mother tongue! < 1242080845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone does that < 1242080860 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe. < 1242080875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :frequency differ of course. < 1242080978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1242081004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, do forners really translate from their native language to english and vise versa? < 1242081018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know those thin plastic threads found under on some plastic wrappings? that you use to open the wrapping < 1242081025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242081028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1242081035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had to use one of them on the cd i ripped today < 1242081038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was a pain < 1242081043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i did it yesterday still < 1242081044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I wonder who had the bright idea to put it on the outside on this wrapping! < 1242081052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is rather irritated < 1242081055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lal < 1242081076 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1242081097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's quite hot here, I wonder if my fans are working hard enoug < 1242081097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1242081102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually it worked pretty well on the other wrappings. Because it was on the right side. < 1242081103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on my computer that is < 1242081113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not on your brain? < 1242081128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i wonder if the brain runs hotter if you think more :^) < 1242081133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would explain a lot < 1242081239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i had to use one of them on the cd i ripped today was a pain <-- so. why was it a pain? < 1242081245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't on the outside was it < 1242081252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just irritating to open < 1242081258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to find the place, pick at them for ages, then rip < 1242081274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the place is usally easy to find if they didn't match up the end perfectly < 1242081281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seldom match up perfectly < 1242081361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however this is rather odd. CD 1: Non-matched up ends. the thread going from top to bottom of the case. CD 2: Non-matched: Thread going from left to right. CD 3: Matched ends. Thread on outside. CD 4: No thread at all. had to get knife to open it with in a corner. < 1242081366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they were in a series. < 1242081370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Volumne 1-4 < 1242081375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes no sense. < 1242081381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1242081388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1242081391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :volume* < 1242081953 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be best if everyone admitted that this sentence is true. < 1242082005 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To say something that's actually pertinent, I think the brain does indeed run hotter if you think more. < 1242082789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : It would be best if everyone admitted that this sentence is true. <-- why < 1242082797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hidden paradox? < 1242082908 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sentence is an allegory or a metaphor or a symbol or something. < 1242082912 0 :kerlo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A satire. A sarcasm. < 1242084473 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1242085037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night