< 1242432020 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pronounce it "War-chester-shire" and then people tell me I'm pronouncing it wrong and I say "fuck you I refuse to pronounce it like that" < 1242432037 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I kill you. < 1242432054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHA *GREEN*. < 1242432057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get it? < 1242432068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xDDDDDfyj < 1242432080 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird got in to the liquor cabinet. < 1242432098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM - the liquor. uhhhh < 1242432100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :‽cabinet < 1242432119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was what you thought before you thought that what you thought was what you thought before you thought that what you thought was what you thought. < 1242432186 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*****aaaaaaagggggghhhhhhh******* < 1242432197 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no way to listen to any music while on this account < 1242432209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, the endpcnoise support people are really helpful < 1242432228 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless someone can link me to some nice .ogg music? < 1242432370 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogg < 1242432384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, Kill Yourself - a song for the ages. < 1242432448 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin]: Gregor's 5th through 8th opuses are also rather nice. < 1242432467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No song is better than Kill Yourself. Especially because it completely lacks melody. < 1242432495 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee, apparently my 9th and 10th suck. < 1242432497 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good to know. < 1242432534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: is Kill Yourself prescribed for regular use, I mean if i kill myself and then feel bad again < 1242432539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i do it again < 1242432553 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Absolutely. Try it today! < 1242432557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK brb < 1242432574 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely hopes that there's no one suicidal in here
< 1242432604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt a song would convince someone to go through with it. < 1242432646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I have no way to listen to any music while on this account <-- huh? < 1242432665 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin], I'll link you. Sec. < 1242432693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: GregorR-L has already filled any need. < 1242432701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin], http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/wesnoth/trunk/data/core/music/ < 1242432712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogg [counteracting] < 1242432718 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the World of Goo soundtrack is in mp3s, and I can't set that up while on a guest account. Not sure how to get... Wesnoth music! OMG < 1242432730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin], um. Those I linked are *.ogg < 1242432741 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I see that < 1242432743 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3<3<3 < 1242432754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/trunk/data/core/music/elf-land.ogg?rev=29785 < 1242432755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogghttp://codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogghttp://codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogghttp://codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogghttp://codu.org/Kill_Yourself.ogg < 1242432756 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for example < 1242432759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just svn co < 1242432765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin], hope that helps < 1242432772 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty AnMaster < 1242432772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he knows how ... < 1242432792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin], svn co http://svn.gna.org/svn/wesnoth/trunk/data/core/music wesnoth-music < 1242432794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work < 1242432800 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: actually, I can just click on a file and click download < 1242432800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming svn is installed < 1242432808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin], kay. < 1242432821 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin]: If you've got a build environment, mpg123. < 1242432823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin], and why can't you just get an mp3 player btw < 1242432826 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242432832 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install it in ~/local/ < 1242432833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin], surely gcc is installed? < 1242432843 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a bit lazy < 1242432859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no system is complete without a full software compiling environment < 1242432865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:14 AnMaster: no system is complete without a full software compiling environment < 1242432866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bull. Shit. < 1242432872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bull + Shit = That. < 1242432875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apologies to GregorR-L) < 1242432879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, embedded systems excluded < 1242432883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1242432887 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no desktop/laptop < 1242432891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or server < 1242432892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shit + Bull = Atth. < 1242432907 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the one with the clapping < 1242432913 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, I think I found it, not sure < 1242432944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least a C compiler, linker, make, system headers, and anything else needed to boot strap basically every other program < 1242432948 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why "Apologies to GregorR-L" on that ...
< 1242432954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I stole it from you :P < 1242432960 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh :P < 1242432966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and it isn't bull shit < 1242432976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in any way whatsoever < 1242432978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's shit that comes from a bull. < 1242432980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fits the spec. < 1242432991 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haaaaaaaaaaahahaha < 1242433001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks for the bull.
< 1242433002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :None here < 1242433009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, there < 1242433011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :behind ehird < 1242433012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1242433016 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: try a mirror? (j/k) < 1242433036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Can you explain to AnMaster why the vast majority of users have absolutely no need whatsoever for a compilation environment? < 1242433051 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Although it's clearly the case, no, I cannot :P < 1242433061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn you! < 1242433072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the vast majority of users won't need to program themselves sure. But they will some day need to compile a program. IMO. < 1242433077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1242433080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be taught in schools < 1242433093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You're batshit insane and I hope you never get into a position to introduce things into the curriculum. < 1242433095 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"basic computer knowledge" < 1242433097 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wahtever < 1242433106 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, how to use a mouse < 1242433109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type on keyboard < 1242433119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn on/off < 1242433123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And compile a program. < 1242433125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write email, browse web < 1242433125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're mad. Barmy. < 1242433127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insane. < 1242433137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write a document, and print it < 1242433140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completely out of the loop. < 1242433146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Two marbles short of a fruitcake. < 1242433153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and basic "read the INSTALL file" < 1242433163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tom Cruise crazy. < 1242433165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact. it would be enough to teach RTFM < 1242433168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1242433168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1242433176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who? < 1242433183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Tom Cruise, who? < 1242433183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahaha < 1242433188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah who is that < 1242433192 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :name sounds faimilar < 1242433195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't place it < 1242433195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Please save me from the mad "every user will one day need to compile a program and it should be taught in schools" person who doesn't know who Tom Cruise is < 1242433196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1242433209 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually I revised that < 1242433212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" in fact. it would be enough to teach RTFM " < 1242433219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which will help a LOT < 1242433239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how you best search for information < 1242433250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stuff like how to search on google, where to find manuals < 1242433264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will always help < 1242433269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you can't deny that! < 1242433287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A manual is a sign of a bad UI in 90% of cases. < 1242433305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there will always be users who do not understand the UI < 1242433310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in 100% of the cases < 1242433312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if it is good < 1242433318 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ones who speak Swedish haw haw < 1242433332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, that joke didn't even make any sense. < 1242433342 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a lot, no. < 1242433349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:22 mauke: my ($fst, $snd) = m{^((?:[^\\/]|\\.)*)/(.*)\z}s; $fst =~ s/\\(.)/$1/sg; < 1242433354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a programmer in oerjan's kin < 1242433354 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, a lack of a manual is a sign of a bad UI in 90% of cases. < 1242433363 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, 90% of all UIs are bad. < 1242433364 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1242433366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Your mom is a sign of your face in 110% of cases. < 1242433379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242433422 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lets not sink to that level of insults. It is like a sub-form of Godwin's law. < 1242433442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1242433444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1242433446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1242433448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooooooooooooooooooooooooosh. < 1242433649 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, back to Windows < 1242433665 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahahaha _awesome_ < 1242433685 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pidgin integrates with the thingy on the upper right < 1242433721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin], why on windows < 1242433722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :horrible < 1242433724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1242433730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what thingy on the upper right? < 1242433737 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing that has the username < 1242433745 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Want a screenshot? < 1242433755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin]: wait, you are concerned about security < 1242433756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use window < 1242433757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s < 1242433764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lols all over the floor
< 1242433774 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know the word "security", and use Windows? < 1242433774 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I'm concerned about security, I'll use Linux < 1242433779 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION joins ehird in loling
< 1242433782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION joins ehird with some roflins
< 1242433787 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When I'm not, which is most of the time, I'll use Windows < 1242433788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BURN THE WITCH! < 1242433790 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofling* < 1242433790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabs Sgeo[Pidgin]
< 1242433796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, burn. < 1242433798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With stabs. < 1242433802 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't I choose when to care about security? < 1242433802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but she is a duck? < 1242433811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She is a duck witch Sgeo pidgeon. < 1242433815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stabs Sgeo[Pidgin] some more
< 1242433829 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin]: Because if you *really* want to run Windows, the sanest way to do it is in a virtual machine. < 1242433830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err, she also floats on the water? < 1242433833 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the time, for me, Games > Security. When Security > Games, I'll boot into Linux. Not that difficult < 1242433851 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: can I transfer my current system into a VM easily? < 1242433857 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I don't trust VM 3d < 1242433859 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not-wanting-to-kill-myself > games :P < 1242433870 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not-wanting-to-stab-computer > games. < 1242433883 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So far, no viruses come with ext3 drivers, right? < 1242433888 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin]: Possible, but not likely. < 1242433909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not-wanting-to-run-Distributed.Storm > games < 1242433911 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242433919 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it wouldn't be hard for a virus to have ext3 support. < 1242433929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First, the source code for userspace ext3 handling is out there. < 1242433937 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second, there is an ext2 driver for Windows. < 1242433944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux virus: rm -rf ~ < 1242433956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, unless there is a kernel bug it can exploit < 1242433961 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X virus, too. < 1242433963 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be endlessly amusing if the first implementation of ext4 on Windows was part of a virus :P < 1242433966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the vmsplice() one < 1242433966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a Unix virus! < 1242433973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Portable. < 1242433975 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That infects Linux by means of infecting Windows) < 1242433977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nodes
< 1242433983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, haha < 1242433984 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: That would be hilarious. < 1242433994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :open source viruses would be coo < 1242433994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l < 1242433995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd like them < 1242434003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd be down with viruses if they were FOSS < 1242434006 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1242434012 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using the Windows installer to install Linux doesn't make things worse than a regular multi-partition setup, does it? < 1242434019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin]: It does. < 1242434024 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: how so? < 1242434026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wubi puts your linux partition as an ntfs file. < 1242434033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's le awful, and does no partitioning. < 1242434035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is le slow. < 1242434039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And is le dependent on le windows. < 1242434044 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I am le tired. < 1242434045 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean securitywise < 1242434048 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't realise that it was using *that* hack. < 1242434051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: FIRE ZE MISSILES!!!! < 1242434060 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*whew*, glad somebody got the reference :P < 1242434077 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess malware could just delete my Linux system without it even being designed to attack Linux in any way < 1242434084 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not as plain screwy as umsdosfs, though. < 1242434086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin]: securitywise, < 1242434091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be infected by NTFS-infecting viruses < 1242434093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242434102 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin]: Well, if it can get access from Windows to the Linux disk, then it could install something which will run as root. < 1242434103 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emulating UNIX filesystem features on FAT! < 1242434108 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's not a single file that uses ext3 internally? < 1242434115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo[Pidgin]: yes, but viruses will fuck with it < 1242434147 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They might well do something weird like insert their code into it. < 1242434153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, and break Linux. < 1242434156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not infect, but break. < 1242434158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Genre: Romantic Classical" <-- how the heck did they class this morden game music in wesnoth as that. (mplayer reported that from the metadata in the file) < 1242434159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Goddamn, just partition. < 1242434160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not hard. < 1242434175 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially with Ubuntu. < 1242434176 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it breaks, I'll just use a LiveCD < 1242434176 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The metadata is annoyingly limited. < 1242434193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, no way these are time typical instruments from the romantic period. < 1242434196 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It literally has "Install alongside Windows? [yes] [no]"... < 1242434205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, exactly. < 1242434218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Winamp extended ID3 has Primus as a genre. < 1242434225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Christian Gangsta Rap, iirc. < 1242434225 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I thought Ogg metadata used arbitrary strings? < 1242434230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's limited because Winamp developers are dicks. < 1242434231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1242434235 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't feel like walking across the house to get a CD to burn. I do feel like making lame excuses for everything < 1242434237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, and no way the music is that either < 1242434240 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Hard rock played on a string quartet is not classical :P < 1242434255 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Which is to say, the instrument selection is a bad way to determine genre) < 1242434258 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, agreed. But what has that got to do with it < 1242434264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1242434272 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, back to Windows time < 1242434284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, what would hard rock on a string quartet sound like < 1242434285 0 :Sgeo[Pidgin]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1242434286 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard rock on a string quartet is certainly *awesome*... < 1242434288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Awesome. < 1242434288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you got me interested. < 1242434289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242434289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242434290 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just not classical. < 1242434293 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any example? < 1242434300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :youtube or whatever < 1242434300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Post-rock would be close, but it's less... hard. < 1242434302 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't have Youtube links handy, sadly. < 1242434316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But post-rock has things like electric guitars being played with violin... pokers, and tons of strings, and whatnot. < 1242434331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, just some good representative example that I can listen for 10 seconds to and then rant about for a minute or two. < 1242434333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242434384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know about hard-rock-quartet... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsf2LoLk3SA&fmt=18 is some nice post-rock, though. < 1242434390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm what genre is http://svn.gna.org/viewcvs/*checkout*/wesnoth/trunk/data/core/music/casualties_of_war.ogg?rev=35621 actually < 1242434392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But also, uh, 10 minutes. < 1242434393 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1242434394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you'd have to skip around a lot. < 1242434407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6:43 is quite representative. < 1242434411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"wesnoth music" < 1242434440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there is fmt=22 nowdays too iirc < 1242434450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That video does not have an HD version. < 1242434454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1242434468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, which is the best format for video and sound quality < 1242434473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 < 1242434473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ranking < 1242434479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it also takes 5 years to load, and isn't real HD < 1242434482 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rank the top three < 1242434484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1242434486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for not youtube? < 1242434493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh what? < 1242434496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes for youtube < 1242434498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1242434499 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242434500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only 3. < 1242434502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22, 18, 17? < 1242434503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1242434510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 = HD, 18 = HQ, dunno = regular. < 1242434523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube#Format_and_quality_comparison_table < 1242434525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is more < 1242434526 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :than 3 < 1242434532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8? < 1242434538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I don't know. < 1242434541 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :34 6 35 18 22 13 17 < 1242434543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are all defined < 1242434544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems < 1242434552 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the difference between HD and HQ? < 1242434561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HQ is just a bit higher bitrate < 1242434566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HD is a lot higher resolution < 1242434570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all-around much better quality < 1242434573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. it is actually watchable < 1242434600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, any sudden volume changes in that? < 1242434608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GY!BE one? < 1242434612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't know about hard-rock-quartet... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsf2LoLk3SA&fmt=18 is some nice post-rock, though. <-- that one < 1242434626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. Listen to the first few seconds, go to 3 minutes in, 6:30 ... then 7:45, should give a representative sample of the entire track. < 1242434631 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you said it had string quartet? < 1242434634 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Youtube's HD is 720p. < 1242434635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1242434638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I don't know about hard-rock-quartet" < 1242434640 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, really. < 1242434641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it has strings, though. < 1242434669 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(last I checked, 720p is real HD) < 1242434680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: hmm, kay < 1242434702 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that isn't very rock like. At least the classical type of rock. < 1242434705 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything greater than 480 is HD :P < 1242434707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah post-rock < 1242434719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1242434731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Post-rock is more classical music with a beat and some modern instruments < 1242434745 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not much beat in that one < 1242434761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, it has drums in a rhythmical pattern. < 1242434764 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything more than PAL is HD ! < 1242434771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything more than 1x1 is HD. < 1242434776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not at 0 and 3 minutes < 1242434780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1242434788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't got to the other bits yet < 1242434788 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I try actually playing Wesnoth? < 1242434791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Post rock does have a lot of very long intros/outros. < 1242434805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seeing as almost all of it is about 10 minutes long. < 1242434818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, if you like turned based strategy games set in a fantasy environment yes. < 1242434825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ok it has beat now < 1242434829 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not too bad actually < 1242434832 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, never really tried one before < 1242434843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I didn't like the start at all. Not sure what the instrument was there < 1242434857 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read a comic that's about something that looks like a turn based strategy game set in a fantasy environment < 1242434865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why is there just a still picture of some odd orange dots for the video part < 1242434885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It is the cover of the EP it's from, Slow Riot for New Zerø Kanada. (Yes, with the ø.) It's Hebrew. < 1242434888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tohu va vohu" (תֹהוּ וָבֹהוּ) < 1242434895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means "nothingness", "void", etc. < 1242434898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's from the Bible. < 1242434905 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1242434944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's not much of an EP more as a gigantic single; it's just two tracks of 10/17 minutes respectively and they flow into each other. < 1242434959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EP? LP? < 1242434973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no idea about the difference
< 1242434980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EP is sub-30 minutes, pretty much. < 1242434989 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what does the E stand for? < 1242434995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extended Play vs Long Play. < 1242434997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(what does the L in LP stand for btw...) < 1242435017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Godspeed You! Black Emperor's actual albums are quite the long; the LP version of Yanqui U.X.O. is 83:58 long. < 1242435019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, at 08:06 it is horrible btw < 1242435022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was good before < 1242435038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did it become too musical? ;-) < 1242435039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well at 07:45 it is bad already < 1242435071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 1) too much "guitar in pain" < 1242435088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) mostly noise + hammering on the trums? < 1242435101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't sound like noise to me. < 1242435109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, I've listened to actual noise music. < 1242435117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what about the guitar in pain bit < 1242435129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't sound like a guitar to me. < 1242435137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :overdrive or whatever the technical term is < 1242435144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's not overdrive. < 1242435149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overdrive is the distorted guitar sound. < 1242435152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what is that sound then < 1242435166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know; it just sounds like a violin-y type instrument to me. Bow-y sort of thin. < 1242435166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g < 1242435170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, heard again at 09:21 < 1242435213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever it is, it isn't violin as I'm used to. But then maybe a violin played non-classically is like that. < 1242435244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it isn't heard at 09:12 < 1242435252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but at 09:21 yes) < 1242435263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems my local copy of Moya is corrupted. < 1242435266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :starts at 09:18 to be specific < 1242435270 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been replaced with BBF3... < 1242435273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can't seek there, sry < 1242435279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, of what? and what? < 1242435286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BBF3 is the second track on the EP. < 1242435289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Moya is the name of that track. < 1242435290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, just check on youtube? < 1242435296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YouTube's seeking is broken for me < 1242435304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, youtube-dl it? < 1242435308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link < 1242435326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1242435336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Homepage: http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/ < 1242435342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ youtube-dl -f 18 -g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsf2LoLk3SA < 1242435342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=Rsf2LoLk3SA&t=vjVQa1PpcFP3IBND5TL6Ui4VDVPVt1LViKkQEiNtjPc=&fmt=18 < 1242435346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure if they code that for ip or such < 1242435354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to wget that one. It might work < 1242435356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :remember to quote it < 1242435455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION clix.
< 1242435458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meeeeeh < 1242435472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.marvell.com/products/embedded_processors/developer/kirkwood/sheevaplug.jsp Oh my god cool < 1242435477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a computer that you just plug in < 1242435479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a pluguter < 1242435486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Smallest thing evar < 1242435538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it didn't work? < 1242435550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have a thing to play flvs < 1242435556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err it should result in an *.mp4 < 1242435562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1242435574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-05-16 00:59:31 ERROR 403: Forbidden. < 1242435575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ youtube-dl -f 18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsf2LoLk3SA < 1242435578 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[youtube] Rsf2LoLk3SA: URL: http://www.youtube.com/get_video?video_id=Rsf2LoLk3SA&t=vjVQa1PpcFMVFjf32EvGGWmN31bE9d4hzsYrdrQ_0ds=&fmt=18 < 1242435578 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[download] Destination: Rsf2LoLk3SA.mp4 < 1242435591 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird fmt=18 == mp4 < 1242435596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 403 < 1242435605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then you need to generate the url locally < 1242435613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they code it by ip iirc < 1242435613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? < 1242435618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleah < 1242435619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/ < 1242435624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Link to an actual file? < 1242435635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is in python or ruby iirc < 1242435651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bitbucket, the github ripoff using hg/python so probably Python < 1242435657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ file /usr/bin/youtube-dl < 1242435657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/bin/youtube-dl: a python script text executable < 1242435675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bitbucket.org/rg3/youtube-dl/raw/2009.05.13/youtube-dl < 1242435678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like the last version < 1242435686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, remember to pass -f 18 for format 18 < 1242435695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how is it a github ripoff < 1242435701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :github is a launchpad rippof! < 1242435703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :off* < 1242435707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it's not < 1242435711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a sourceforge ripoff < 1242435711 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242435719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitbucket's UI is pretty much screen-for-screen identical to github's < 1242435746 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, looks like same basic idea that sf.net uses < 1242435757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basic idea, yes. < 1242435761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overview Downloads Source Changesets Wiki Issues < 1242435762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1242435766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can match any github page to any launchpad one, pretty much < 1242435777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the UI, layout, design and functionality are almost entirely identiacl < 1242435779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*identical < 1242435797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sfnet: Overview, Downloads, Source (changes are found under that), wiki (they added wiki a year ago or so), bug tracker < 1242435798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1242435800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the same < 1242435801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1242435816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's one minor list. < 1242435825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, just took an example < 1242435863 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but ok, it is very close to github < 1242435868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wouldn't call it ripoff though < 1242435882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I've used github a lot so my senses may be more attuned :P < 1242435896 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and you might be bisaed < 1242435901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :biased* < 1242435905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really; github has a ton of flaws. < 1242435922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a more neutral word than ripoff then < 1242435930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flower. < 1242435934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242435939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the same meaning < 1242435942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flower is a very neutral word. < 1242435947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What more could you want? < 1242435952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"based freely on" < 1242435961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flagrantly copied < 1242435979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that got a negative tone to it as well < 1242435999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"extended and corrected" < 1242436006 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is not neutral either < 1242436007 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1242436012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moose < 1242436012 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION vaguely wonders if there will ever be a game based on Erfworld
< 1242436016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just going out as far as you are, in the other direction < 1242436023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wth is Erfworld < 1242436045 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, comic about a fantasy turn-based world < 1242436045 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.erfworld.com/ < 1242436056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1242436088 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfworld < 1242436098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: whre's the screech < 1242436115 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Erfworld: The Battle for Gobwin Knob is a story-driven fantasy/comedy webcomic about a master strategy gamer stuck in a wargame. " < 1242436123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: whre's the screech <-- ? < 1242436130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you got me to dl this vid for < 1242436139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sec < 1242436153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird, it isn't heard at 09:12 < 1242436155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : starts at 09:18 to be specific < 1242436158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can compare < 1242436171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:17 possibly < 1242436189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's just a bunch of echoes, maybe some fallout from the guitar. < 1242436197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The drums are a likely culprit too. < 1242436197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fallout :D < 1242436207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes the drums start more too < 1242436234 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fallout. Rock fallout protection shelter. < 1242436235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242436240 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a good idea. < 1242436244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242436267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a high tolerance for noisy stuff... I guess i'm a lo-fi sort of person. < 1242436353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hah < 1242436366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Yet you want a silent computer < 1242436369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are strange < 1242436381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have entire albums that spend their whole lives at 100% volume and distortion heaven... < 1242436384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yeah, go figure. < 1242436390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computer noise isn't very pleasing P < 1242436391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242436415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, to me the noise of a even slightly overdriven guitar is as bad as that of a computer < 1242436423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just have bad taste :-) < 1242436425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acoustic guitar I like. < 1242436428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pedestrian → < 1242436437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and possibly electric if they skip the noise stuff. < 1242436444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, are you leaving? < 1242436446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1242436792 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1242439112 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I quite like distorted guitar. < 1242439116 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1242439126 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what really irks me is stuff that's at 100% volume for the whole album. < 1242439134 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That just sounds crappy. < 1242441128 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242444712 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242445111 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1242445495 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-129-241.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242445572 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-102-10.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242446283 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242447297 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-102-10.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242451086 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242451419 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-102-10.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242456662 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242457007 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1242457943 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!showinterp slashes < 1242457950 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!show slashes < 1242457950 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl (sending via DCC) < 1242457954 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram Alpha doesn't know about Brainfuck! < 1242458003 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!delinterp slashes < 1242458003 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter slashes deleted. < 1242458023 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp slashes http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/slashes/slashes.pl < 1242458023 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter http___oerjan_nvg_org_esoteric_slashes_slashes_pl does not exist! < 1242458037 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1242458153 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp slashes http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/slashes/slashes.pl < 1242458154 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter http___oerjan_nvg_org_esoteric_slashes_slashes_pl does not exist! < 1242458171 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok it's not the nvg web server's fault < 1242458181 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: ^ web problem < 1242458205 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242458210 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait < 1242458214 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: d'oh! < 1242458222 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!addinterp slashes perl http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/slashes/slashes.pl < 1242458226 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpreter slashes installed. < 1242458248 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!slashes http://oerjan.nvg.org/esoteric/slashes/crashtest.sss < 1242458250 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Complex regular subexpression recursion limit (32766) exceeded at /tmp/input.636 line 16, <> line 516. < 1242458265 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah :( < 1242458281 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didn't help either here or there < 1242458311 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it was less a web problem and more a PEBKAC problem? (No offense) < 1242458330 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1242458369 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION always finds himself interpreting PEBKAC as being in the russian alphabet
< 1242458399 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so does "revkas" mean anything in russian, i wonder < 1242458963 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@c-76-105-254-150.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242458973 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: nothing < 1242458986 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mtve: something < 1242458996 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what? < 1242459023 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : so does "revkas" mean anything in russian, i wonder < 1242459080 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah :) < 1242459115 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got confused by GregorR-L entering, must have cleared my mental irc cache :D < 1242459128 0 :mtve!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :np :) < 1242459468 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rm -rf oerjan/.caches/mind/irc/freenode/\#esoteric < 1242459508 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean? also, who are you? < 1242459508 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a slow cache if it's on a disk < 1242459561 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cache" does not mean "speed booster" :P < 1242459569 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :free(hash_lookup_str(oerjan_irc_cache, "#esoteric")) < 1242459588 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat65.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1242459660 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Many mistaken the refrain for saying "Do the lucky lady," "Noodle knock the Navy," "Do it like a lady," or "Do the Macarena,"" < 1242459669 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I laughed at macarena < 1242459670 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Lets not sink to that level of insults. It is like a sub-form of Godwin's law. < 1242459675 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, so is your face. < 1242459807 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haaaaaahaha < 1242459833 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242459895 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh. what kind of sad place is Digg's programming section? < 1242459909 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The very sad kind. < 1242459923 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://oneoverzero.comicgenesis.com/faq.html < 1242459925 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eewwwerwergh. *feels sick reading* < 1242459925 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: should i be very happy that i have no idea? :D < 1242459927 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes, why? < 1242459958 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, 1/0, my first webcomic < 1242460000 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read the FAQ < 1242460013 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rather low volume, and the volume it has is hardly interesting? Largely web development stuff and plebeian complaints about software < 1242460024 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started reading the FAQ, then got bored because they were all really bad jokes. < 1242460031 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lots of spam < 1242460045 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :web development meaning PHP, for the most part < 1242460093 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even /prog/ is more interesting < 1242460122 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn those plebes. < 1242460141 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hush! the end users might hear you < 1242460159 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :＞＿＞ < 1242460162 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :＜＿＜ < 1242460200 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1242460210 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> <(My eyes are ASCII) < 1242460212 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1242460232 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(>^.^)> < 1242460350 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, I mean, as opposed to complaints about software from a design perspective, just complaining. < 1242460392 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242460448 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night all < 1242460676 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-149-132.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242460766 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1242460799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1242460800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1242461709 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242462604 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anybody has any interest in MUSHes, I just threw one up on codu.org for giggles. Type '!mush' or telnet/mushclient to codu.org:6250 < 1242462646 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1242463748 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1242466562 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242467011 0 :tombom!i=tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1242467056 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242467189 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1242467933 0 :impomatic!n=John@nat65.mia.three.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1242467971 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone played Pascal Robots? Most of the websites about it seem to have vanished. < 1242468100 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I'm afraid not < 1242468293 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ais523. I don't expect many people have, considering how little there is on the net. < 1242468344 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must get that BF Joust for EgoBot finished off < 1242468355 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you keep reminding me of BF Joust just by existing < 1242468359 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a good thing, I suppose < 1242468381 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just mirroring the p-robots stuff from Geocities at the moment. < 1242468425 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, Geocities < 1242468426 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any important Esoteric sites on Geocities. It'd be handy to get them mirrored before Geocities closes. < 1242468429 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so much useful stuff was there < 1242468435 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the BANCStar site's probably the most important < 1242468448 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it received a cease-and-desist once, though < 1242468466 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? Is there any info about that anywhere? < 1242468493 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you making a BF Joust King of the Hill? < 1242468528 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an interp < 1242468541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I can link you to if you like < 1242468560 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes please :-) < 1242468589 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242468646 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me dig up the link < 1242468718 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/1414581 < 1242469005 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've copy/pasted it to experiment with later :-) I assume it'll work on any version of Perl < 1242469025 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it requires 5.10 < 1242469029 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can see near the top < 1242469039 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I find it hard to un-learn new features < 1242469045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some people are on 5.8 still < 1242469125 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... mine is 5.8.7, will upgrade later ;-) < 1242469142 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it shouldn't be too hard to backport it < 1242469149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd just have to rewrite the given blocks explicitly < 1242469196 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easier for me to upgrade. I've got a copy of Learning Perl, but haven't read it yet! < 1242469257 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1242469259 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a few programs I want to port to Perl before I publish them, so I really ought to start reading it. < 1242469467 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that program allows a couple of abbreviations that I often find wanting to use in BF Joust programs < 1242469480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(+-)*5 is equivalent to +-+-+-+-+- < 1242469486 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it accepts run-length encoding < 1242469514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can also create nested patterns like this: (>{+-}<)%5 is equivalent to >>>>>+-<<<<< < 1242471253 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh, i insert debug statements into my bct program and suddenly it works perfectly (but dog slow, naturally) < 1242471272 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well not the whole program, just what i have so far) < 1242471282 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@ti0056a341-0392.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1242471312 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hypothesis: something probably happens at the boundary between commands where i insert debugging < 1242471414 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rechecks that it fails without the debug statements
< 1242471619 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1242471722 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Bus" < 1242471968 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... Wolfram Alpha's up now, and it seems partly slashdotted < 1242471973 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't < 1242471976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may in fact have been Cuiled < 1242472143 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, it doesn't seem to know what the world's shortest mountain is < 1242472149 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it interprets the query correctly but gets no results < 1242472231 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it depends how you define a mountain. Over 1000 ft? < 1242472270 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know my definition is different to my girlfriend's definition. Also here definition of climbing is different! < 1242472290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I was hoping to use the question to probe Alpha's definition of a mountain < 1242472299 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it must contain a finite number of mountains in its database < 1242472305 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I was wondering what the shortest one was < 1242472584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... "multiply 6 by 9 in base 13" tells me that it interpreted the input as a request to multiply 6 by 9 in base 13 < 1242472587 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it doesn't tell me the answer < 1242472591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is slightly weird < 1242472660 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I download the answer as PDF, in addition to the input interpretation, it gives me the result: "CalculateBaseForm(54Times, 13)" < 1242472676 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I think Wolfram Alpha has trouble using Mathematica < 1242474331 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242474754 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242476361 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242476634 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Peace and Protection 4.22.2" < 1242477613 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242478181 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242478404 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242480330 0 :psygnisfive!n=psygnisf@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242481530 0 :tombom!i=tombom@82.26.207.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242483182 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also does not want to tell me the amount of mountains in the world. That out-of-capacity message is funny, though. "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that... Wolfram|Alpha has temporarily exceeded its current maximum test load. See the live video feed of the Control Center >>" < 1242483726 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it wierd that I have a collection of executable compressors? < 1242483753 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1242483897 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: all squeezed together in a small place, i assume < 1242484043 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has realized he can cut off one character from his /// token encoding, by discouraging empty replacements
< 1242484063 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1242484258 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone have experience of fixing "Runtime Error 200" on old executables compiled with Turbo Pascal? < 1242484281 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the corresponding error message? < 1242484292 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used turbo pascal before < 1242484298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but don't have the error message database memorise < 1242484300 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*memorised < 1242484306 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've got 6 exes I want to fix. TPpatch fixed 2, but not the other 4. I also found a TSR that's supposed to fix it, but it doesn't either. < 1242484319 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have the source? < 1242484365 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all I get, Runtime Error 200 and an address. It means there's numeric overflow in a timing routine in the setup code, due to running on a computer thats too fast. < 1242484370 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, haven't got the source. < 1242484397 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runtime_error_200 < 1242484405 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It affects most programs compiled with TP which use the screen library. < 1242484472 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried 2 of these programs: http://www.brain.uni-freiburg.de/~klaus/pascal/runerr200/download.html < 1242484484 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They fixed 2 of my 6 programs. < 1242484497 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, try more. (The tppatch thing is the only one I think I've used myself, and it worked in that case.) < 1242484515 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also tried using CPU Killer to slow down my computer, but it made me crash :-( < 1242484543 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : minimize x squared minus (x plus 3) min {x^2 Subtract[x+3]|-2<=x<=2} ~~ minimum | {4. Subtract[1.],4. Subtract[5.],Part[]^2 Subtract[Part[]+3.]} at x~~{}[[1]] < 1242484623 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in Mathematica, {}[[1]] refers to the first element of a zero-element list < 1242484639 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematica fails the same way as Thutu with respect to such things < 1242484664 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though if you write "minimize x^2-(x+3)" you get a rather more reasonable answer. < 1242484672 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242484675 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that "x^2 Subtract[x+3]" mean anyway? < 1242484696 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: x to the power two, times the subtraction of x+3 < 1242484767 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is "the subtraction of x+3" then? < 1242484769 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Subtract::argr: Subtract called with 1 argument; 2 arguments are expected. < 1242484855 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice function help text, though. < 1242484856 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In[1]:= ?Subtract < 1242484856 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x - y is equivalent to x + (-1 * y). < 1242484885 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Mathematica works the same way as Thutu behind the scenes < 1242484893 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, thutu < 1242484908 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so although the subtraction of one number makes no sense, Mathematica just leaves it literally in the answer < 1242484913 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pattern-matches as much as it can elsewhere < 1242484933 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes. It's a strange way of parsing the English part, though. < 1242485030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, especially as it was parsed into meaningless mathematica < 1242485099 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. "five minus six" is 5-6, "five minus six plus one" somehow does 5-(6+1) which is a curious precedence, "five minus (six plus one)" is '5 Subtract[6+1]' and finally "five minus the sum of six and one" has input interpretation: "5 - ∑6⋀1" and no real result. < 1242485113 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that the precedence is curious < 1242485160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... strange that Alpha don't have an opensearch tag yet < 1242485166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it can't be added to the firefox search box < 1242485207 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... "6 times 9 in base 13" is working now < 1242485210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was broken this morning < 1242485215 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Alpha must have been Cuiled < 1242485333 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :None of those patches work on these 4 files :-( < 1242485350 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Running in dosbox (if it's a possibility) tends to slow things down, too. < 1242485421 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to fix them and put them online. < 1242485440 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1242486995 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1242487265 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1242487493 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242487692 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1242488499 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it seems that the world's fastest sort ever (for a competition) was done using Java < 1242488503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just feels wrong < 1242489366 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1242489629 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm... was it distributed? < 1242489675 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242489682 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and pretty hefty hardware, obviously < 1242489691 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the requirement was just to sort a petabyte of data < 1242489707 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :key-value pairs, with 10-byte keys and 90-byte values < 1242489710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sorting into key order < 1242489891 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is surprised to learn that the techtinkering link on the wiki is not really spam
< 1242489907 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the edit looked so awfully generic it _could_ have been made by a spambot < 1242489911 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably added that ;-) < 1242489918 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242489940 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was so paranoid i opened the link in lynx, just in case :D < 1242489951 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I ought to put an edit summary < 1242489952 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was added by someone with the username "techtinkering" < 1242489966 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, a meaningful edit summary certainly tones our spam radar down a lot < 1242489968 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as does being logged in < 1242489984 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's normally some interesting stuff on Lawrence's blog. < 1242489987 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the username only reinforced my suspicion < 1242490003 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh okay. I think I've added one of his links too. < 1242490011 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, having a username means they got past the CAPTCHA < 1242490028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which reduces the chance it's spam < 1242490030 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well true < 1242490039 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though that's a trivial CAPTCHA to script around, most people couldn't be bothered < 1242490052 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION probably registered before the CAPTCHA, so has forgotten all about it
< 1242490071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the CAPTCHA hits new user registrations, and anons who try to add links < 1242490079 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it keeps out the majority of confused spambots < 1242490097 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although spam not involving links gets through < 1242490113 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes i recall that brouhaha about those two insane researchers trying to save data on wikis < 1242490113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:07 impomatic: Are there any important Esoteric sites on Geocities. It'd be handy to get them mirrored before Geocities closes. < 1242490114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calm down < 1242490116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not disappearing < 1242490119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yap < 1242490139 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they tried to chastise us for having a lousy CAPTCHA < 1242490139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: geocities is just being read-onlied < 1242490145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, that was aumusing < 1242490152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they said sheesh we can break trivial captchas in like 2 seconds < 1242490153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lameos < 1242490159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanted to punch 'em for that < 1242490169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:58 pikhq: Now what really irks me is stuff that's at 100% volume for the whole album. < 1242490169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:58 pikhq: That just sounds crappy. < 1242490170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more horror vacui than bad mixing in this case < 1242490240 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can continue to enjoy your web site and GeoCities services until later this year. -- We'll provide more details about closing GeoCities and how to save your site data this summer, and we will update the help center with more details at that time." < 1242490247 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't necessary sound like just being read-onlied. < 1242490260 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll be upset if nobody mirrors the BancSTAR stuff < 1242490261 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though I guess they might be communicating elsewhere than just their faq page. < 1242490282 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps they only stopped new registrations? < 1242490288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no, it is read only < 1242490289 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what they already did. < 1242490292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know this for a complete fact < 1242490292 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: from what I've read it looks like it's all disappearing. < 1242490296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I read the original announcement < 1242490303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: if that is true it is a new development < 1242490314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, they'll never get away with it. < 1242490323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1242490332 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've closed it for new users, and all I've seen about the future is "things will work until later this year", with no specifices. < 1242490332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html < 1242490338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's new < 1242490340 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've prepared mirrors for all of the Geocities Corewar sites. Now I'm working on the sites for some other programming games. < 1242490343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to be just: your site will stay < 1242490348 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: minimize x squared minus (x plus 3) min {x^2 Subtract[x+3]|-2<=x<=2} ~~ minimum | {4. Subtract[1.],4. Subtract[5.],Part[]^2 Subtract[Part[]+3.]} at x~~{}[[1]] < 1242490357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lol wat < 1242490361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Just contact the archive.org guys. They could mirror all of geocities ;-) < 1242490368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so, wolfram alpha's out now is it? < 1242490373 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, to both < 1242490377 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, wolfram alpha's out < 1242490384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asks it "how is babby formed"
< 1242490385 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and archive.org are scraping geocities as fast as they can < 1242490393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1242490395 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's the wrong sort of question < 1242490396 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: :D < 1242490404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't care, it should know it < 1242490406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's on the internet < 1242490411 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, how did you know about archive.org < 1242490412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1242490413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't use the internet, though < 1242490417 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and from Slashdot < 1242490423 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ofc, that could be unreliable < 1242490426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram alpha's just sitting there loading < 1242490429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KIND OF LIKE MATHEMATICA ALWAYS DOES < 1242490432 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's Cuiled at the moment < 1242490434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input.Tips for good results » < 1242490436 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although intermittently < 1242490443 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input" is a rather common result, sadly. < 1242490447 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :archive.org scraping misses a lot. < 1242490458 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alpha doesn't use the Internet, I don't think < 1242490461 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried asking "What is the second tallest mountain in the world", and it didn't understand completely. although it did suggest a related question that gave the right answer < 1242490462 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just uses its approved databases < 1242490466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: Erm, I think they're doing it specially < 1242490468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. with the site list? < 1242490469 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I asked "shortest mountain", and got no result < 1242490475 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is annoying < 1242490480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to know what the shortest mountain in its database is < 1242490488 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah i saw that so tried a slightly more sensible one < 1242490494 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It also doesn't know anything about "number of mountains". < 1242490499 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't an "I don't understand", it told me how it parsed the question, but not the answer < 1242490553 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if it's in archive.org a proper mirror would be better. There's no proper search for the web archive, just retrieve by URL < 1242490557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the above garble I've pasted all over the place, including here twice, #IRP, and Slashdot, is beyond the how-could-they-manage-that stage < 1242490589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Wolfram Alpha, how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? < 1242490598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I interpreted that as "how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?" < 1242490601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Result: < 1242490615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Next question? < 1242490616 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And their natural language parsing is idiosyncratic. I can do "primes <= 100" to get a list of below-100 primes, but "sum of (primes <= 100)" gets "Input interpretation: π(100) | series representation" and a "Computation timed out" message, even though number-of-primes-less-than-100 is quite a lot different than sum-of-primes-less-than-100. < 1242490622 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, it does that sometimes < 1242490633 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not even "ZOT!!!"? :( < 1242490711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : sum of primes below 1000 Assuming "sum" is a function property | Use as a sum instead Interpretation: pi(NextPrime[1000, -1]) | series representation Computation timed out. < 1242490719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's awful, isn't it? < 1242490724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries below 100
< 1242490728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's occasionally useful < 1242490732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :timed out! < 1242490736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, and below the interpretation it says < 1242490742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pi(x) is the number of primes less than or equal to x < 1242490743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's written in Mathematica, which is part of the reason it's too slow < 1242490745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, uh, not what I wanted! < 1242490752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses as a sum instead
< 1242490764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I get the feeling from using it that they just special-cased every possible query in existence < 1242490767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than writing general code < 1242490811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yep; I guessed that when Wolfram entered his own phrasings of queries when asked < 1242490820 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :archive.org seems to miss files when it archives a site. < 1242490830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: it depends < 1242490837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries sum of primes below 10, c'mon, you can do that
< 1242490853 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That pi(NextPrime[100, -1]) stuff is weird. It's "number of primes smaller than the largest prime below 100". < 1242490857 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got it thinking for several minutes a while back with "lambda x return x" < 1242490865 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until it decided it didn't know what I meant < 1242490870 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get reasonable list of primes, though; I wonder why it doesn't generally sum things. < 1242490875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sum of primes below 10" times out. < 1242490885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :primes < 10 works, though. < 1242490906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asks it what infinity is, gets too-much-load-lol
< 1242490908 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but it's not computing the sum of that list; it's trying to do a series representation for pi there. < 1242490917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, which is retarded < 1242490932 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, it had "did you mean 'sum primes below'" < 1242490938 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is also an I-don't-understand output < 1242490950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to slashdot to read the comments, and gets distracted
< 1242490951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"DJ Danger Mouse famously fought with EMI over his Beatles/Jay-Z mashup, 'The Grey Album,' and now seems to be battling with the label again. Rather than release his latest album and face legal issues with EMI, Techdirt is reporting that Danger Mouse will be selling a blank CD-R along with lots of artwork, and buyers will be responsible for finding the music themselves (yes, it's findable on the internet) and burning the CD." < 1242490976 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried "number of retards", and it's telling me just about everything about the English word retard, with a pretty synonym network graph and everything. < 1242490989 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the synonym network graph is ridiculous < 1242490997 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that, only about four of the nodes are labeled < 1242491000 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they all seem irrelevant < 1242491004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asks it "wolfram's ego in nanodijkstras"
< 1242491018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, you could probably measure it in dijkstras < 1242491028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more or less than 1 billion, i wonder? < 1242491063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah, it doesn't understand me < 1242491069 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor anyone else < 1242491072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it accept mathematica as input, I wonder? < 1242491097 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it manages "sum ((a to the n) over n factorial)" < 1242491113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you install flash, you can watch wolfram people look at vague statistics of the site in realtime: http://www.justin.tv/clip/2dd6b9f07e7f8a4e < 1242491123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of them is standing up < 1242491126 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that feed back up? < 1242491128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh someone came in with a cup! < 1242491132 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was down for ages < 1242491133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is *exciting* < 1242491137 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to being slashdotted < 1242491150 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and actually, I have Gnash installed nowadays, although I have it blocked by default by NoScript < 1242491153 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've never got it to work < 1242491177 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. "zeroes of riemann zeta function" => "Input interpretation: solve ζ(s) = 0. Solution over the reals: s = -2n and n ≥ 1 and n ∊ ℤ." But that's not the interesting part! < 1242491186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I am not surprised, because Gnash does not work on anything. < 1242491193 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1242491199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could just block all flash + Adobe's player if you're using the evils anyway. < 1242491206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is receiving universal praise... ...from all the commenters on Wolfram's blog [wolframalpha.com]. It is actually rather amusing to read through the long list of overwhelmingly positive comments." — /. < 1242491222 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I get to shout at websites claiming their Flash isn't portable < 1242491230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: err < 1242491235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not their fault Gnash doesn't implement all of Flash < 1242491237 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I refuse to install Adobe's Flash, not because it's closed-source, but because it's massively buggy and insecure < 1242491239 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: and yes, I know < 1242491254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: and yes, but if you only enable it on things like video sites, it should be fine < 1242491298 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adobe's flash broke on me; all indicators point that the plugin's installed just fine, and it's also working just fine, but all flash content is just a translucent box. Wonder what's up with that. < 1242491313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When we launch Wolfram|Alpha this weekend, it will be running Mathematica on about 10,000 processor cores, using gridMathematica-based parallelism. And every single query that comes into the system will be served with webMathematica. < 1242491322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10,000 cores and they still can't handle mathematica < 1242491335 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematica is fundamentally inefficient, IMO < 1242491350 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :making it useless for serious computation unless you have a Wolfram-style server farm < 1242491351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want to have Wolfram Alpha’s baby!" — W|A blog < 1242491366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Wow, thanks to Wolfram Alpha I can quit my job, divorce my wife, sell all my possessions, shave my entire body, gain that frontal lobotomy I’ve always wanted, and become one with the computer!" < 1242491367 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's worked very well IMO. < 1242491380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: i'm sorry, which reality are you currently residing in? < 1242491381 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works very well for things that the Wolfram people thought of < 1242491387 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which != things that I want to do with it < 1242491391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you might be trapped in an internet-based pocket of reality distortion field < 1242491416 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the comments in the justin.tv stream have seemed universally positive, although I've only looked at about ten of them. But the ten have been things like "this is more important than putting a man on the moon" and "you did what is the dream of human mankind". < 1242491429 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I don't try to use it as an English compiler like you guys mostly apparently have. < 1242491444 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't managed to break it with machine-readable input yet. < 1242491449 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: lots of dripping sarcasm? :D < 1242491449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it gave a pretty good answer for "refractive index of glass" < 1242491457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Gee, I wonder why we're giving it mathematical statements as basic English? OH! MAYBE BECAUSE WOLFRAM DID! < 1242491463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I've been trying to give it appropriate input < 1242491467 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rephrasing if necessary < 1242491467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That explains it! < 1242491472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even so, I can't get it to work half the time < 1242491475 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems to be very patchy < 1242491496 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Not all the time, he didn't. < 1242491505 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, I don't think what the marketing says is relevant. < 1242491508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : average size of human anus I'm not sure what to do with your input. < 1242491511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what she said. < 1242491514 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for specific things like "fifteenth mersenne prime", it works fine < 1242491517 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but is clearly special-cased < 1242491529 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm very impressed that it works as well as it does. < 1242491530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it has an "nth mersenne prime" sort of query < 1242491532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"avg. human height" works, that's a start. 5'4" apparently. < 1242491533 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: >_< < 1242491541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT THE FUCK < 1242491545 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's just the usual wolframming of special-casing everything < 1242491545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with its conversions < 1242491555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It tells me the average human height ... in electromagnetic frequency range < 1242491565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VHF (very high frequency) | meter band, apparently. < 1242491574 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd be somewhere between microwave and radio < 1242491578 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you were used as a wavelength < 1242491583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242491593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahahaha < 1242491600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : tallest human info on the tallest human ever < 1242491605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : tallest living human LOL WUT < 1242491616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I predict the source code is a gigantic hash table < 1242491619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of string→html < 1242491625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hand-written < 1242491626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that was my impression too < 1242491630 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :em, literally LOL WUT? < 1242491633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which explains why it's so long < 1242491638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no :P < 1242491646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's so long? < 1242491653 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the source code to Alpha < 1242491654 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: The "intelligent" input parsing was very hyped, though. And I still haven't gotten the sum of primes smaller than a constant out of it yet. Admittedly "sum of the first ten primes" worked very well; but why then not "sum of the primes below 10"? < 1242491659 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's apparently over 2 million lines of Mathematica < 1242491665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : elite hacker in lolspeak ? < 1242491665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: jeez < 1242491683 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just thought it was a fun conversion < 1242491688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant < 1242491689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 2mil < 1242491695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : infinity Input: ∞ < 1242491700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks, Alpha! < 1242491729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 1/0 I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that... < 1242491736 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/0 works < 1242491739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice timing :-) < 1242491743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the I'm sorry dave is a general overload < 1242491743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's the load error < 1242491745 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm used to hype and have come to ignore it when evaluating things. < 1242491750 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And now I'll eat. -> < 1242491752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yes, but < 1242491753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's wolfram < 1242491757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he lives on this kind of hype < 1242491758 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad to know that it handles "tcp port 8080" correctly < 1242491766 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is one query that broke in the demonstration they gave me a while back < 1242491772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|A might work if everyone had their own cluster for it < 1242491773 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently because it wasn't in the database then < 1242491783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I bet that's the only one that works < 1242491798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh shit, we missed one -- {"tcp port 8080","..."}" < 1242491799 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It doesn't seem to know anything about ICMP, though; "Did you mean: scamp". < 1242491800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There we go" < 1242491816 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : tcp port 64928 (no known assignments) < 1242491821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : average human penis length ? < 1242491834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't even think how to phrase that differently < 1242491853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly Alpha doesn't have porn in its database yet < 1242491859 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I therefore predict it will be a massive failure < 1242491859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmph < 1242491869 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "UDP port 22; Typical port assignment: ssh: SSH Remote Login Protocol". I guess it's just reading someone's /etc/services to me. < 1242491879 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242491887 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why didn't it get 64928? < 1242491891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oldest porn star Did you mean: oldest star; Astronomy: star? < 1242491904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Big Bang huh < 1242491920 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, stars came later < 1242491928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true enough. < 1242491928 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : udp port 80 http: World Wide Web HTTP < 1242491934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1242491938 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone ought to give Alpha a lesson on the difference between TCP and UDP < 1242491940 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: What's 64928 then? < 1242491947 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: INTERCAL theft server < 1242491961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : average size of star Did you mean size of star < 1242491971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asks it size of star to figure out wtf that is
< 1242491978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"size of star" is "100 brightest stars | sizes" < 1242491981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How stupid. < 1242492003 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :average size of star is not very well defined < 1242492008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True. < 1242492014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "size of star" being "100 brightest stars | sizes"? < 1242492017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's just wrong. < 1242492017 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could, you know, just do an average < 1242492035 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: no, because you don't know all stars < 1242492039 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do < 1242492043 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an average of all the ones in the database < 1242492043 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am omniscient < 1242492049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: click the source information, you get Wolfram as the two primary sources even though they took the data from someone els < 1242492050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1242492058 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the database will be biased towards larger stars < 1242492064 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I didn't realise that... < 1242492071 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they are easier to discover < 1242492118 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't like "sum of (udp port)" < 1242492120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|A is approximately as useless as I imagined < 1242492126 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Alpha's problem is that it isn't actually doing computations < 1242492128 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which disappoints me < 1242492131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: why did you make it seem sort of cool when we asked? < 1242492134 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it isn't combining different parts of itself < 1242492143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Assuming "wolfram alpha" is a historical event | Use as an internet domain instead < 1242492144 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: aren't you glad we aren't close to the singularity yet? :) < 1242492147 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: because Wolfram fooled me too in the demonstrations, a bit < 1242492149 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[["wolfram alpha" is a historical event]] < 1242492154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHAHAHAHAahadhdfjkdhgjkfdg < 1242492156 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Based on http://isc.sans.org/port.html?port=64928 eevil hackurs are trying to use that server quite often, then. < 1242492171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wait, why is that a good thing? < 1242492180 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the singularity, by definition, has to be pretty good at what W|A is trying to do < 1242492210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: yes, they're obviously trying to steal data from your computer < 1242492215 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what a theft server does, by definition < 1242492222 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: and the singularity could be pretty bad, therefore it is good that W|A isn't managing it < 1242492231 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It won't be so good for the humans who have to live as HEAT MINERS under the singularitic robotic overlords. < 1242492233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: weeeell. < 1242492238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|A isn't malicious, just crap. < 1242492243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it's crap, it isn't singularity-level < 1242492268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you know it isn't malicious? < 1242492276 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't competent enough to tell if it's malicious or not < 1242492277 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i never said anything about W|A being malicious < 1242492281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's too stupid to be malicious < 1242492294 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : select.intercal.org.uk < 1242492299 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Alpha's processing that at the moment < 1242492307 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gives varying amounts of output on the same query < 1242492317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries 1 2 3 plus 4 5 6
< 1242492324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if it can do array computation < 1242492331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Assuming multiplication | Use a list instead" < 1242492333 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first time it tried, all it did was say that its location was in Edinborough, and which company hosted it < 1242492336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION clix
< 1242492340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh wow < 1242492341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it parsed it as < 1242492354 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1 2 (3+4) 5 6", let me guess? < 1242492357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you won't believe this— < 1242492364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1242492367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION types it out
< 1242492378 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a link to the printable text version < 1242492386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm loading the page < 1242492389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i went onto another thing < 1242492406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it is—— < 1242492409 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You can do "{1,2,3}+{4,5,6}" if you want to get {5,7,9}... that's in Mathematica syntax. But a web-interface for Mathematica isn't all that kewl. < 1242492414 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION kicks W|A
< 1242492426 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: what would Mathematica return for {1,2,3}*{4,5,6}? < 1242492428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 2 (3 + 4 x 5 x 6) < 1242492446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but if you ask it for the mathematica, it says 1 2 (3 + 4 5 6) < 1242492446 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ok, that's some parsing trouble < 1242492454 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's interpreted 1 2 as 1 times 2 < 1242492458 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and simplified it before showing it to you < 1242492463 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It also computes 5+7+9=21, mean value 7, vector length = sqrt(155), normalized vector, pie chart, triangle with those sides, cuboid with that size, and corresponding spherical coordinates. < 1242492464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep... < 1242492467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty ridiculous < 1242492473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses as a list instead
< 1242492476 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In[3]:= {1,2,3}*{4,5,6} < 1242492476 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out[3]= {4, 10, 18} < 1242492482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242492488 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242492488 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why didn't it dot-product, I wonder/ < 1242492498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you tell it to interpret "1 2 3 plus 4 5 6" as a list, it parses as {1, 2, 3 + 4 x 5 x 6} < 1242492502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ {1, 2, 123} < 1242492511 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1 2 3 + 4 5 6" didn't give me a choice of interpretation < 1242492523 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: {1,2,3}.{4,5,6} does the dot product. Well, it's a dot. < 1242492525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it then gives me the total, 126, the mean, 42, the vector length, 123.02, the normalized vector and the spherical coordinates < 1242492539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just want you to do {1+4,2+5,3+6} dammit! < 1242492546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :array addition!! < 1242492555 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Well, do it in the Mathematica syntax like I said, then. < 1242492563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i have mathematica < 1242492563 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you really need that sum, I mean. < 1242492569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't need W|A to use mathematica < 1242492600 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You can write "{1,2,3} plus {4,5,6}" to Alpha if you insist on using something that doesn't directly plug in to Mathematica. < 1242492627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think being able to replace + with plus is a great advantage. < 1242492632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION clicks its music example
< 1242492638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The page “C E G Bb D F# A - Wolfram|Alpha” has content of MIME type “audio/midi&s=63”. Because you don’t have a plug-in installed for this MIME type, this content can’t be displayed. < 1242492642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLL < 1242492645 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it managed "solve a to the power b equals b to the power a" < 1242492658 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it returns a non-HTML page in response to a query? < 1242492667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242492669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i clicked play sound < 1242492672 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242492672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=C+E+G+Bb+D+F%23+A < 1242492675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it should be audio/midi < 1242492679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it tacked &s=63 on the end < 1242492680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's dum < 1242492702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did they even test it, that's what I'm wondering < 1242492711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely playing sound on every browser would be part of their tests < 1242492716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not like safari/webkit have a small marketshare < 1242492724 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would they have had time to test it? < 1242492727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242492734 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it's two million lines long... < 1242492743 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably coverage for any given query is very low < 1242492745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: incidentally, their text-as-images ... I reckon that's freetype rendering < 1242492751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are any licensing issues with it? < 1242492754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not, but I hope so < 1242492764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably mathematica OutputForm < 1242492768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be amusing if they had to GPL it < 1242492774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i mean the actual font rendering < 1242492782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's freetype's, i.e. what's used on X11 < 1242492832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[It couldn't tell me: < 1242492832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Who is Luke Skywalker's father?" < 1242492833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You've got more chance of logging into reddit on a comments page than you have of getting a good answer from this engine.]] < 1242492836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Why should it? Use Google for your dumb fiction questions.]] < 1242492838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—reddit < 1242492840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah information about anything that's not 500% real is useless < 1242492854 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :information about fictional things is unlikely to be in the database < 1242492867 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"integer solutions of x^3+y^3=z^3" => "Input interpretation: solve | x^3+y^3 = z^3 | over the integers; Result: z = Root[-x^3 - y^3 + #1^3 &, 1] and (x|y|z) ∊ ℤ". The maths it do is very Mathematicay. < 1242492877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I reckon that the sweet spot for Wolfram Alpha is being a souped up Google Calculator < 1242492884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, same here < 1242492886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it was marketed as that, everything would have gone swimmingly < 1242492897 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: the maths clearly does it via Mathematica < 1242492901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you can tell when it goes wrong < 1242492912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asks it 700 dollars in roman numerals
< 1242492916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Input interpretation: < 1242492922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even interpret it! < 1242492937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242492939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it interpreted it okay < 1242492941 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LCC DOLLARI < 1242492946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :convert $700 (US dollars) to Roman numerals < 1242492948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no result < 1242492972 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yep, Mathematica fails the same way as Thutu on unexpected input < 1242492978 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they work the same way behind the scenes < 1242492988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but that's not what I typed in < 1242492991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it parsed it perfectly < 1242492994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exact way it should < 1242492997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just then didn't evaluate it < 1242493009 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1242493015 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll have converted it to a Mathematica expression < 1242493018 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then got no match < 1242493018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>Interpreting "MXLCIX" as "mlcit" < 1242493029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a stock simple, apparently < 1242493032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Citefibree" < 1242493034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Citefibre < 1242493035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*symbol < 1242493039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's in euros, and I see Paris < 1242493046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: "XLC" isn't a valid roman numeral excerpt < 1242493047 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MXLCIX isn't a valid Roman numeral < 1242493053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably it thinks MXLCIX is the stock symbol of a french company, awesome < 1242493054 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try correcting it to "MCXLIX" < 1242493055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I know < 1242493057 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something similar < 1242493058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted to know how it'd react < 1242493059 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MXYZPTLK < 1242493068 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that you get all kinds of incidental information is at least nifty, if not useful. "$700 in zloty" gives a good input interpretation ("covert $700 (US dollars) to Polish zlotych"), the result, but also: local currency conversion (in euros), exchange history for the last year with min+max, and value of $700 in random additional currencies. < 1242493071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, MXLCIX→mlcit is ridiculous < 1242493083 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it's not < 1242493101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=MCXLIX ← it seems to think that if I'm using roman numerals I care about mayan, babylonian and greek numerals too < 1242493105 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just using some kind of basic Hamming distance type measure to do correction < 1242493133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It also couldn't express Wolfram's ego in milliDijkstras" —reddit < 1242493137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great minds think alike < 1242493171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"miles in beardseconds" < 1242493172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google: < 1242493173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 miles = 321 868 800 000 beardseconds < 1242493174 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind the "useless very vaguely related stuff" section of the answer; at least that's something novel. < 1242493175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram: < 1242493177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. < 1242493179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google wins < 1242493181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—reddit < 1242493192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do people keep comparing it to Google/ < 1242493198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asks "average bluntness of knives"
< 1242493200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not google < 1242493202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google calculator < 1242493209 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1242493219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google calculator is like Alpha without the database; it just knows lots of units and conversions and such < 1242493228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it parses way better :-P < 1242493243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : wat is knive < 1242493249 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simple things are easy to parse. < 1242493257 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the smaller the realm of knowledge, the easier to parse < 1242493267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure, but google parses better than W|A regardless < 1242493285 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google calculator can't handle "$700 in €", it wants "700 $ in €", for instance. < 1242493300 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame parser. < 1242493301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: google calculator doesn't do symbols < 1242493305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does words < 1242493319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it does words better than W|A < 1242493319 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: So how exactly does it parse better than W|A? < 1242493329 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alpha mostly does well at "glagolitic capital letter spidery ha" < 1242493337 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but its drawing of the letter is wrong < 1242493410 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alpha has Alexa information in, it seems < 1242493435 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm pretty sure it considers "in" an infix operator with precedence and everything. < 1242493437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: heh, "glagolitic capital letter spidery ha"'s encodings has Unicode, HTML and then ITALICS MATHEMATICA < 1242493447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: right < 1242493456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only Mathematica is worthy of obliquity. < 1242493478 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Really? To me it seems like it just checks whether the input has "in X" at the end and then converts to X if it does < 1242493480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION visits http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wolframalpha.com%2Finput%2F%3Fi%3Dwolframalpha.com
< 1242493488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: *BOOM* < 1242493492 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that seems to have stumped it < 1242493494 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"1 in miles + 2 km" -> no results < 1242493495 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, it's stuck loading < 1242493503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it get stuck loading for anyone else? < 1242493508 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Worked for me. < 1242493515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: try reloading < 1242493518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works instantly < 1242493519 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Doesn't parse right. ;) < 1242493519 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am reloading < 1242493521 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't instant < 1242493525 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did that query return? < 1242493531 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worked for me too. Although I don't quite get what's the HTML element hierarchy is useful for. < 1242493533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: a bunch of info about the URL and domain < 1242493540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, uh, a graph of the html hierarchy < 1242493543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where you can't see the tags < 1242493543 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "in" isn't much of an operator if you can only use it at the end of the input :-P < 1242493549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's just a pretty drawing < 1242493559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: apparently, W|A is the 4069th site on Alexa. Hype, I suppose. < 1242493568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so close to 4096, too < 1242493569 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :710000 daily page views. < 1242493572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lovely round number < 1242493573 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION adds one more layer of recursion
< 1242493585 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, that was instant < 1242493594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, it seems to use AJAX for returning the actual results < 1242493599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1242493602 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very pointless < 1242493607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it loads a new page and then uses ajax < 1242493613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OTOH, I've seen that done before < 1242493617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in WolframTones < 1242493621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably it's a webMathematica thing < 1242493626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so even if I could somehow make a quine, it wouldn't send Alpha into an infinite loop < 1242493628 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really pointless, that lets it give you partial results < 1242493636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: but it doesn't < 1242493642 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure it does < 1242493643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the results come more or less at once < 1242493653 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not for me, not always < 1242493659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you only get the input then it takes 5 hours to load the results < 1242493662 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That just means they went to the same cluster node or w/e < 1242493665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242493682 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? "height of 10", interpreted as "height | 10" gives me two results. Distribution of human heights (8962 people, NHANES 2006 study), and one panel with header "Test information:" and contents "test panels | physical examination". I don't really know what that means. < 1242493715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that W|A may make more sense on drugs. < 1242493737 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only got the former panel < 1242493745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I'm going to write a fast /// interp in C < 1242493756 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And on a refresh, I get nothing. Hmph. < 1242493758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think anyone will care if I don't support \0 in programs? :-P < 1242493765 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: AnMaster will < 1242493778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Deewiant would iff you claimed standards compliance < 1242493786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's a plus. will anyone else? also, you just pinged him, he'll come here in a few seconds going "what?" < 1242493791 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For small values of "care" < 1242493792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that was regarding anmaster) < 1242493793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1242493797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1242493798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see? < 1242493811 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242493813 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was timely < 1242493819 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to ask for the heights of 10 tallest mountains, in preparation to trying to get the average of that list. I mean, it's supposed to be able to compute things from that data. (Also the ten tallest mountains table showed only 5, and when I clicked on "more" the units went from metres to feet.) < 1242493822 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many seconds exactly was that/ < 1242493824 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and depends on what it is < 1242493825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242493831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ais523: that's a plus. will anyone else? also, you just pinged him, he'll come here in a few seconds going "what?" < 1242493846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it that you need to handle \0 in < 1242493850 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :// < 1242493852 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* /// < 1242493857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/// < 1242493859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean :P < 1242493861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1242493864 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I just corrected < 1242493871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if it is legal in slashes. < 1242493873 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slashes + IRC = I need to concentrate more < 1242493877 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/// < 1242493886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\0s in programs are legal in ///, but I don't think anyone uses them < 1242493890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you have to put a literal \0 in a file < 1242493895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might just use length-tracking strings anyway < 1242493897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll see < 1242493903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, mmap doesn't load the whole file usually, does it? < 1242493907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you probably should handle it, but I'm not really interested in slashes. < 1242493908 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mycology contains a literal \0; surely you'd want to run your slashes interp on it < 1242493910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to read manually for that, right? < 1242493925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, wait. A befunge interpreter in slashes? < 1242493927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh! < 1242493942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you'd have to encode it anyway < 1242493967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it loads the file as it is required usually. Implementation defined. < 1242493968 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, W|A: "Interpreting 'befunge' as 'befang'". Getting "total number of speakers: 3000 people" for Befunge confused me for a bit. < 1242493977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242493996 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck: Did you mean: brainerd < 1242494002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hm, W|A: "Interpreting 'befunge' as 'befang'". Getting "total number of speakers: 3000 people" for Befunge confused me for a bit. <-- where was that from. < 1242494010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, brainerd? < 1242494010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: wolfram alpha < 1242494011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242494013 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some daemon < 1242494017 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|A, that is to say, WolframAlpha. < 1242494018 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh they launched it? < 1242494019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks
< 1242494020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242494022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: needs JS < 1242494022 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday, I think. < 1242494031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: today at 00:00 GMT. < 1242494031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah I can add a temp exception < 1242494038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: btw, it's cra < 1242494039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p < 1242494043 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It wasn't 2009-05-15 < 1242494044 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1242494047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, CUIL crap? < 1242494052 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't that the intention? < 1242494054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: eh, dunno; we didn't talk about it yesterday < 1242494057 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: 2009-05-15 is what it itself says. < 1242494059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: pretty much < 1242494062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's fairly useless < 1242494067 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I don't think it's that crap. < 1242494073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant's bonkers, ignore him < 1242494075 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a web-interface to Mathematica, which in itself is very cool. < 1242494090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, that's cool? < 1242494090 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: There already was a web-interface to Mathematica, wasn't there? Not open, though. < 1242494091 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really, a web-interface to Malbolge would almost be more useful < 1242494093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just an online REPL... < 1242494095 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How many people live in Sweden? -> Result: 9.12 million people (2007 estimate) < 1242494103 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Cool in the sense that you don't have to pay $1000 to get at it. < 1242494104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one seems to work at least. < 1242494114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: strange, I didn't have to do that either < 1242494129 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: The openness is the good bit. < 1242494130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had to break the law, but that's better than breaking your head against a wall when your queries keep timing out < 1242494136 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly a *free* online Mathematica is nice. But it is a bit limited as to how much you can play with the results. < 1242494142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242494143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242494148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says it has exceeded the test load < 1242494148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't use it like real mathematica at all < 1242494150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever that means < 1242494152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so reload. < 1242494159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the TOO MANY PEOPLE ASKING ME THINKS AAAAAAA page < 1242494160 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly, but most of my uses of Mathematica /are/ just one-liners every now and then. < 1242494167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though they have 10,000 cores < 1242494168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1242494173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just can't handle the internets < 1242494174 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had a Mathematica-bot on IRC I wouldn't use the real program at all, probably. < 1242494188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: but the pretty output and sounds! < 1242494190 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10000 cores isn't that much. < 1242494190 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1242494192 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is scrolling < 1242494193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so slow < 1242494194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :graphs! < 1242494196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the result pages < 1242494199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i, don't know? it's not, for me < 1242494202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1242494205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :upgrade, your browser, or, computer < 1242494205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try in firefox 3? < 1242494207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242494210 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I rarely graph and I don't think I've ever got sounds out of it. :-P < 1242494215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Play[] < 1242494224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: you can listen to the reimann zeta function! < 1242494234 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's about the pretty output? Plot[x^2,{x,0,10}] works just fine in W|A. < 1242494240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: he said IRC bot < 1242494242 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That was about the IRC bot. < 1242494250 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: But hey, DCC send. :-P < 1242494260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242494306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cybercom.net/~seishino/Front.jpg ← this is what silent computers looked like in 2003 < 1242494312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242494320 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: data: URIs so you can "open in your browser". (Packing all the pretty graphics in <512 base-64 encoded characters is left as an exercise.) < 1242494326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The speed holes on the side make the computer go faster." < 1242494328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(real quot) < 1242494333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-e < 1242494335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :97 / x = 22 + x < 1242494336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1242494338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cybercom.net/~seishino/Insides.jpg < 1242494340 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why did it take ages < 1242494345 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's under heavy load. < 1242494350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :97 divided by x is 22 plus x? < 1242494359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;-) < 1242494370 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's their first release and it's been at least on /. and all over IRC. < 1242494371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, it can solve that. < 1242494374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "solve for x" was what I intended < 1242494379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what it returned < 1242494383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(%i3) solve([97 / x = 22 + x], [x]); < 1242494383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(%o3) [x=-sqrt(218)-11,x=sqrt(218)-11] < 1242494384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Input: x = x + 1 < 1242494386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternate form: False < 1242494386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in maxima < 1242494389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's a new error < 1242494390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is fast < 1242494397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instant even < 1242494404 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: is that an error? < 1242494412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think so... < 1242494415 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That's not an error. < 1242494417 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x = x + 1 is equivalent to false < 1242494424 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simplify[x == x+1] -> False. < 1242494426 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah. < 1242494428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I was saying "solve for x". < 1242494432 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant was the faster. < 1242494432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x - 1 = x + 1 < 1242494441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereby the output would be {} < 1242494441 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: No solutions. < 1242494444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1242494446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not False < 1242494448 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242494459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, maxima returns an empty list for "no solutions" < 1242494464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x/y = x+y for x = -4, y = 2. < 1242494465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fun. < 1242494465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems saner to me < 1242494468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah < 1242494476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also y = 1/2 (-x-sqrt(x+4) sqrt(x)), -x-sqrt(x+4) sqrt(x)!=0 < 1242494476 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You can write "solve x=x+1" and you get "Result: (no solutions exist)". < 1242494482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And y = 1/2 (sqrt(x) sqrt(x+4)-x), sqrt(x) sqrt(x+4)-x!=0 < 1242494491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(%i7) solve([x=x+1], [x]); < 1242494491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(%o7) [] < 1242494512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242494518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can't you copy paste from alpha < 1242494520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is irritating < 1242494534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: text in images. < 1242494539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242494541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x/(y*x) = x+(y^2)/3 gives some funcomplex results. < 1242494541 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clicking on the image gives a "copyable plaintext" thing. < 1242494546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, aha < 1242494546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y = ((1+i sqrt(3)) x)/(2^(2/3) (sqrt(4 x^3+9)+3)^(1/3))-((1-i sqrt(3)) (sqrt(4 x^3+9)+3)^(1/3))/(2 2^(1/3)) < 1242494577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's quite fun for solving things, it seems < 1242494582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although that's not very computational-knowledgy < 1242494590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one way to handle the load would be caching results. Since it is likely that many people will all try the same shortly after each other. At least it seems so from reading this channel :P < 1242494598 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, that's just refl into mathematica < 1242494611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, yes, but a nicer syntax. < 1242494613 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it turns out that the links they had for communicating between servers didn't scale properly < 1242494621 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they only found out a few hours before release < 1242494622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more mathematical. < 1242494624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, wut < 1242494635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they need faster ethernet? < 1242494646 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably something to do with the protocol or the routing < 1242494648 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're probably using wifi. < 1242494649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242494653 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hehe < 1242494654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be a very wolfram thing to do < 1242494688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does it use pictures even for stuff like "i is the imaginary unit" or such < 1242494692 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha. If you do something like "integrate x^2+x+1", the indefinite integral result has a "show steps" button, which will give a step-by-step solution with comments and everything. < 1242494699 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Many a high-school student will love that thing. :p < 1242494704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmmmmm < 1242494708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems that you can only solve for one variable < 1242494712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because it sux < 1242494717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ooh indeed < 1242494717 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, "derivative of zeta function" gives a really bad result in Alpha compared to "derivative of gamma function" < 1242494742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION solve x/y = z, z = x*2
< 1242494754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y = 1/2 and z = 2 x and x!=0 < 1242494758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1242494761 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: That works? I tried it earlier and it always said "no more information" or whatever < 1242494761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also x = 0 and z = 0 and y!=0, but that's unfun < 1242494775 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, it worked for that particular example, anyway. < 1242494811 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doesn't work for me; "No more results available." < 1242494824 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 2/y=z2x*=x0=!&& , you mean? < 1242494836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: aieeee < 1242494838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION <3 RPN. :p
< 1242494853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION solve x+y=infinity, x!=infinity, y!=infinity
< 1242494855 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I get: http://pastebin.com/m245f8c18 < 1242494862 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: (That's the copyable plaintext version.) < 1242494868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Result: (no solutions exist) < 1242494869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dur :P < 1242494886 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone tried an SQL injection in there, btw? < 1242494902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aleph 0 < 1242494903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. < 1242494906 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously, it wouldn't work because it isn't even going directly into a database being escaped < 1242494906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great! < 1242494909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they'll use mathematica databse, clearly < 1242494911 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: try aleph_0 < 1242494915 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Mathematica doesn't know about different sorts of infinity < 1242494918 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AFAIR < 1242494922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it does < 1242494925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has infinity and complex infinity < 1242494926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one < 1242494927 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird " * Did you mean:aleppo" < 1242494928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242494930 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, ok < 1242494933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : solve x+y < y, x*y < x, x**y = 479*x x = -479^(1/(n-1)) and y = n and n>=2 and (n-1)/2 element Z < 1242494935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not bad! < 1242494955 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Entering "'; DROP TABLE AllKnowledgeInTheWorld; --" gives me the expected "?" reply, but also: "Related inputs to try: Chemistry: All". < 1242494959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, tried that, returns Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. < 1242494972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: eh, try stuffs. :P < 1242494980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what < 1242494985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: iuno < 1242494999 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing that annoys me is how the loading bars are not actually loading bars < 1242495000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is there a way to get it to give some concrete solutions? < 1242495003 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just animations to look pretty < 1242495004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of a list of constraints < 1242495004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"solve x+y < y, x*y < x, x**y = 479*x x = -479^(1/(n-1))" works. but not the "and ...." bit. < 1242495007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and really? EURGH! < 1242495013 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :solve | {x+yx = -479^(1/(-1+n))} < 1242495013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has the data while you wait? < 1242495022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ... is Wolfram Alpha. < 1242495027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my query was: solve x+y < y, x*y < x, x**y = 479*x < 1242495041 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One thing that annoys me about Wolfram... Mathematica? How dare it not be a Lisp? < 1242495042 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! < 1242495051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, thought it was some math stuff I didn't know :P < 1242495058 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's Thutu with a massive standard library and a slightly less powerful regex syntax < 1242495062 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, hell. Look at Maxima. Mmm, Common Lisp. < 1242495076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, maxima is faster too! < 1242495080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's libre & gratis. Tasty. < 1242495088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, though it can't do all the stuff. Like play sounds. < 1242495091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how can you get a list of results instead of constraints? do you know < 1242495100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Who needs it to play sounds? < 1242495109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: me! < 1242495110 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Ask ehird iirc < 1242495113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm pretty sure it can; I thought you could stick Lisp code into its REPL. < 1242495118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242495127 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, never tried that. < 1242495129 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1242495139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do you not know? < 1242495143 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no I don't < 1242495146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1242495150 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although substituting a value would be one method < 1242495157 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, by hand in the query < 1242495165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just want it to give me values, since I don't know them ;-) < 1242495192 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO... A Usenet copying group is suing the Dutch RIAA equivalent. < 1242495200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Awesome. < 1242495225 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They claim that their activities are perfectly legal, and something like... The Dutch RIAA is slandering them? < 1242495233 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, awesome. < 1242495243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, it can't figureout any solutions it seems < 1242495252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we get the silent treatment but it'll give us the constraints needed < 1242495261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably the numbers don't exist < 1242495274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, or not < 1242495293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In[5]:= Reduce[{x + y < y, x y < x, x^y == 479 x}, {x, y}, Reals] < 1242495293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out[5]= 1/2 (-1 + C[1]) \[Element] Integers && C[1] >= 2 && < 1242495294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : x == -479^((1/(-1 + C[1]))) && y == C[1] < 1242495308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1242495311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's just the W|A output < 1242495312 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alpha's output is prettier, though. < 1242495313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reordered < 1242495386 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you do have an infinite number of solutions there. I mean, it's just "x = f(n), y = n, n >= 2, (n-1)/2 is integer", you can substitute n=3, n=5, .. anything there. < 1242495392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :integrate (dx+2)/dy = 4*x + 2*x/3 < 1242495395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why doesn't that work < 1242495399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242495404 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure how to get W|A or Mathematica to do it easily without any extra manual typing, though. < 1242495410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh. Bit boring. < 1242495418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought my challenge was sufficiently... challenging. < 1242495421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you know how fizzie < 1242495426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : solve x+y = 478*x, y^x = 7777+x*(x*y) < 1242495429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : x ~~ 1.40123597714166989438479711 and y = 477 x < 1242495439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I deem x "ehird's number". < 1242495451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? It looks irrational. < 1242495461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: it's probably not irrational) < 1242495465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or probably is) < 1242495470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I don't want to think about it) < 1242495471 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably a surd < 1242495480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1242495480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's clear mathematica tried to solve it numerically < 1242495482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what a surd is! < 1242495493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks up surd
< 1242495498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An unresolved mathematical expression of an nth root, or an irrational number that can be expressed as such a root of a rational number < 1242495499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1242495509 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see... x+y=478*x simplifies to y=477*x < 1242495531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, W|A solved that < 1242495535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:37 ehird: x ~~ 1.40123597714166989438479711 and y = 477 x < 1242495536 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're trying to solve (477*x)^x = 7777+477*x^3 < 1242495555 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, the ^x there is nasty < 1242495560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it may quite possibly be irrational < 1242495568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwaha! < 1242495639 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1242495651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a pretty number, because seeing "771" and "711", your brain thinks it's repeating < 1242495653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you actually look < 1242495667 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine didn't assume it was repeating < 1242495677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine did < 1242495678 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: What is the VAT in UK? Interpretation: is | Vatican City | in United Kingdom Result: no < 1242495679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242495686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Hahahahaa < 1242495686 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't notice the 711 until you mentioned it
< 1242495697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is hilarious < 1242495700 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is really quite a misinterpretation < 1242495701 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, 7[17]1 < 1242495705 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yep < 1242495719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know how much the VAT is? < 1242495727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in UK < 1242495731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was actually wondering < 1242495734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17% or something < 1242495741 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also "VAT of UK" is interpreted as "Vatican City | United Kingdom" and then it starts to compare those two things. < 1242495741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same for all products? < 1242495742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it 15% now < 1242495746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was changed recently < 1242495750 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"value added tax" < 1242495754 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1242495758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes... < 1242495760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he wants to know its value < 1242495764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 15% < 1242495771 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i suggested a better search term < 1242495772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it used to be 17.5% and will be following 31 dec 09 < 1242495775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right. Same for all type of products? < 1242495777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes < 1242495813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easier than Sweden. IIRC our "moms" (same concept as your VAT) varies between different types of products < 1242495817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moms < 1242495818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1242495825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what about it? < 1242495844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha: airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow < 1242495846 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VAT? Vallue-added tax? < 1242495847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes me think plural-mom-mother < 1242495849 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gave african or european < 1242495852 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :norway is complicated too. unless they changed it. < 1242495852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: valllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllue < 1242495856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well they got taht one < 1242495859 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Value, rather. < 1242495859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that < 1242495864 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the african gives insufficient data < 1242495871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wikipedia says it means mervärdesskatt btw < 1242495871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:44 ais523: the african gives insufficient data < 1242495872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ... You guys have a nation-wide sales tax? < 1242495874 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the european, Alpha says 25 mph < 1242495875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of context < 1242495877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TWO-PUNCH! < 1242495881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ... so does the UK. < 1242495881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what? < 1242495884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but Google says 24 mph < 1242495887 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder which is right? < 1242495889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what would the alternative be... < 1242495903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: TAXLESS AMERICAN FREEDOM < 1242495908 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. Small countries with a government that is more than just nominally very powerful. < 1242495912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Sweden, VAT is split into three levels: 25% for most goods and services including restaurants bills, 12% for foods (incl. bring home from restaurants) and hotel stays (but breakfast at 25%) and 6% for printed matter, cultural services, and transport of private persons. Some services are not taxable for example education of children and adults if public utility, and health and dental care, but educ < 1242495913 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ation is taxable at 25% in case of courses for adults at a private school. Dance events (for the guests) have 25%, concerts and stage shows have 6%, and some types of cultural events have 0%." < 1242495913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Assuming estimated average cruising airspeed of an unladen African swallow | Use estimated average cruising airspeed of an unladen European swallow instead < 1242495915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from wikipedia < 1242495915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is unfortunately insufficient data to estimate the velocity of an African swallow (even if you specified which of the 47 species of swallow found in Africa you meant) < 1242495916 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (asked of a general swallow (but not answered) in Monty Python's Holy Grail) < 1242495916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(asked of a general swallow (but not answered) in Monty Python's Holy Grail.) < 1242495919 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah it is complex ehird < 1242495926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:45 pikhq: Oh, right. Small countries with a government that is more than just nominally very powerful. < 1242495929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: dude, you're an american < 1242495935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STFU about government inferference < 1242495957 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the US, the government interferes with different things to what it interferes with in Europe < 1242495957 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not getting Alpha to dig out tax rates. If I just write "tax", for me it says "Input interpretation: Helsinki, Uusimaa | total sales tax rate" and "(data not available)", but I can't specify the location anyhow. < 1242495961 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm saying that their countries have governments designed that way, while ours is only nominally *not* that way. ;) < 1242495971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1242495973 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all. < 1242495974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What is the air speed of an unladen African swallow?" < 1242495975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1242495976 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The Finnish VAT (here "alv", for "arvonlisävero") is at least as complicated, I think. < 1242495976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: do you live in Helsinki or Uusimaa? < 1242495980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that gives sensible result < 1242495982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: welcome to 3 seconds ago < 1242495984 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's clearly been special-cased < 1242495985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242495993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hehe < 1242495995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:46 ais523: fizzie: do you live in Helsinki or Uusimaa? < 1242495999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's at the helsinki university isn't he? < 1242495999 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, next to Helsinki. And Uusimaa is a larger regional grouping, in which I do live. < 1242496003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :renaming to WAVE UNIVERSITY or something < 1242496011 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The Helsinki University of Technology is not actually in Helsinki. :p < 1242496012 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I don't know which university fizzie is at off by heart < 1242496017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:46 fizzie: ehird: The Helsinki University of Technology is not actually in Helsinki. :p < 1242496020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL WAT < 1242496026 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here, each state sets their own sales taxes, and those tend to be reduced for basic necessities, such as groceries... < 1242496030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how does tkk.fi work into this? < 1242496044 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the federal government adds an additional tax on tobacco, alcohol, and gasoline. < 1242496051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I've always thought the federal/state system was silly < 1242496065 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: /// in C seems like the obvious thing now < 1242496068 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, its results for "147.188.147.123" were decent < 1242496080 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The Finnish name is "Teknillinen korkeakoulu", which is pretty much just "university of technology"; this is the main one, so it doesn't need to bother with the locational specifiers. The lesser ones elsewhere in Finland have the place in the Finnish names too. < 1242496083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yep... it'll require some allocation trickery, but it should work nice < 1242496085 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the IP of the proxy at the University I used for ages < 1242496085 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I think it would be less silly if the federal government only had the powers granted to it by the constitution. < 1242496087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why obvious though? < 1242496091 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries their current IP
< 1242496095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it does, platonically < 1242496108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but enforcement sort of damages that < 1242496111 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's fast to manipulate mutable arrays directly in C < 1242496113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Monty Python Interpretation: Monty Python Live at the Hollywood Bowl (movie) < 1242496114 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, then, the US would be more akin to the EU... < 1242496118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why that specific movie < 1242496118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: true enough < 1242496119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1242496126 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Anyway, TKK used to be in Helsinki, but the campus was moved to Espoo (Helsinki's neighbour city, and TKK is right there next to the border anyway) in 1955. < 1242496136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: did they put it on wheels and move it across < 1242496164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it also lets you do sharing tricks < 1242496169 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: there was a series on Channel 5 about building movers < 1242496172 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was quite interesting < 1242496177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: like make a new string_t, -= a bit from the length, then += data < 1242496181 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although a rather specific thing to have a TV series about < 1242496190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Channel 5? Old, then. < 1242496199 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems lots of special equipment is needed to move buildings < 1242496202 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, probably old < 1242496208 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WA didn't know what "Ackermann function" was. But when typoed as "Ackerman function" it gave a strange result < 1242496208 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might have renamed to five by then < 1242496208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I mean, it's called five now < 1242496210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242496213 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I still know them by their old name < 1242496220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Computability Additional functionality for this topic is under development... < 1242496221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" < 1242496225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange < 1242496228 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember seeing that a few years ago on Discovery. Was a while back, though, when they'd show things that have something to do with reality other than blowing things up. < 1242496233 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ehird ^ < 1242496237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: try ackermann(a,b) < 1242496246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: don't diss blowing things up < 1242496252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I wanted general information about it, it's definition < 1242496255 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It's all they air! < 1242496259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: *its < 1242496272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yes, and they have a place; they just need to rename to Explosions Channel < 1242496282 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Solve+the+halting+problem < 1242496285 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I could get behind that. < 1242496287 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This machine does not work < 1242496287 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that ackermann(1,2) -> Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. < 1242496294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how gay < 1242496309 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=itty+bitty+baby%2C+itty+bitty+boat < 1242496312 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: They built a new one. There's all kinds of related trivia, like they started building it in 1950 mainly because the place was used to host the participants of the 1952 Summer Olympics, presumably so they could get some sort of (financial or otherwise) help in the construction. < 1242496314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: A( works < 1242496315 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it doesn't seem to konw of the ackermann function < 1242496321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=A%28G64%2CG64%29 < 1242496321 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talk about a knowledge engine < 1242496325 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: with the correct funtion? < 1242496325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure those are the right functions < 1242496330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or valus < 1242496331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :values < 1242496336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it thinks G=gravity < 1242496351 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=butt < 1242496357 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the fuck is wrong with this < 1242496360 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's interpreting G as an unknown < 1242496361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: A( works <-- no < 1242496363 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and A as an unknown function < 1242496367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: haha < 1242496369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what ais523 said < 1242496371 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just returning a general answer, assuming G64 = G^64 < 1242496382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1242496391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get a (FILE *)'s fd? < 1242496395 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i think it should be possible to just scan one array for matches, annotating it somehow, and then allocating the next array afterwards, at the correct length, then fill it and free the old one. < 1242496398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for fstat < 1242496406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=google < 1242496412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is "Daily returns versus S&P 500:" < 1242496418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that graph, what is it supposed to me < 1242496420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be* < 1242496436 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: fileno(stream). < 1242496459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: economics stuff. < 1242496471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's giving you stock symbol info < 1242496473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1242496475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Google (GOOG)" < 1242496484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, but that graph seemed so confusing < 1242496490 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure how conformant that is; obviously not ISO C, but it could be POSIX. < 1242496493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a useless graph :-P < 1242496498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: POSIX IIRC < 1242496523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an off_t? < 1242496528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an integer of some sor < 1242496529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1242496531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for file offsets it seems < 1242496533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sizes < 1242496548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Four seasons 3.154x10^7 seconds < 1242496551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242496552 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Jimmy Wales date of birth | 8 August 1966 (age: 42 years) < 1242496557 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that'll be controversial < 1242496561 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking for the famous work of Vivaldi < 1242496600 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Jimmy Donal "Jimbo" Wales (born August 7, 1966[2]) < 1242496631 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Wikpedia's source for that is Encyclopedia Britannica, and its sources < 1242496654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's controversial about it < 1242496662 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Mathematica Assuming "mathematica" is a quantityUse as a historical event or an internet domain instead Interpretation: Wolfram Mathematica Result: Mathematica is an all-in-one computation and visualization system, development environment, and deployment engine. [...] < 1242496662 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1242496665 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was a huge row about it < 1242496669 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathematica is a quantity. < 1242496671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1242496671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what < 1242496676 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jimmy kept editing all references to it out of the Wikipedia article < 1242496679 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :claiming no reliable soruces < 1242496680 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sources < 1242496690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for historical event: "Mathematica 1.0 Released" < 1242496690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1242496691 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and of course, people retaliated by finding lots of sources < 1242496699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, more of the "jimbo is a pretty crap wikier who serves his own interests and has a shady past" stuff :p < 1242496707 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242496708 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's interesting to see that Wikipedia and Alpha came to different values, though < 1242496715 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Britannica agreed with Wikipedia on that, though < 1242496718 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, I got a different error. "Sorry, Wolfram /Alpha/ is temporarily unavailable. Please try again. Error: DataPacletFilter: Unable to get Connection Too many connections". < 1242496726 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I was wondering if it had been vandalised to show something different from the source...) < 1242496739 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's interesting to see that Wikipedia and Alpha came to different values, though <-- what do you mean < 1242496753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what's the bast way to read from a (FILE *) the natural block size, as much as possible? < 1242496772 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: getc in a loop < 1242496772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm just trying to stream a file into a buffer as properly as possible < 1242496780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that isn't the natural block size! < 1242496783 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1242496786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're meant to use fread, I'm sure < 1242496796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, that's inefficient on memory < 1242496797 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :getc turns into a call to get a natural-sized buffer < 1242496802 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :followed by accessing into the buffer < 1242496807 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in most sane implementations < 1242496808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of writing a word-sized block at a time < 1242496817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could do fread(buf, sizeof(long), ...) < 1242496818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose < 1242496830 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fread has function call overhead < 1242496831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, only true for buffered files. < 1242496836 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you probably want fgetc_unlocked < 1242496839 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, yes < 1242496844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't mind overhead < 1242496850 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can set the buffering explicitly if you think your compiler might be standards-incompliant < 1242496854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This doesn't need to be especially fast - the files are tiny - I'd just like to get it correct < 1242496859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, in fact, only true for fully buffered files < 1242496868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: which it will be, unless it's stdio from tty < 1242496873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yep < 1242496881 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if it /is/ stdio from tty, fully-buffering is almost certainly incorrect < 1242496884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stdin < 1242496909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, fully buffered stdout to tty can make sense. < 1242496909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fread(&buf, sizeof(long), ??what do I want for nitems??, file) < 1242496914 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pass-to-mathematica doesn't seem to be completely direct. If I write "f[x_] := x+1; f[42]" it interprets as "f(x_) = x+1; f(42)" and results "f(42) ~~ f(42.)..." with a unworky "more digits" option. I'm not quite sure how to define + evaluate a function there. < 1242496928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1242496946 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: std/out/, yes < 1242496971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you said stdio, not stdin < 1242496976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, but it was a thinko < 1242496984 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I corrected it a couple of lines down < 1242496992 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=rule+34 < 1242496994 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heheh < 1242497009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :42 < 1242497009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(according to Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy) < 1242497012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :another special casing < 1242497030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:01 ehird: fread(&buf, sizeof(long), ??what do I want for nitems??, file) < 1242497054 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ??The size of your buffer?? < 1242497063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm wondering how big I should make it :-P < 1242497087 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPU's L2 cache size, mayhaps < 1242497096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's not too helpful :-P < 1242497097 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you can't be bothered to find it out... 1024 is always good :-P < 1242497104 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure it is < 1242497106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's 1024 bytes < 1242497109 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's what I'd do if I actually cared < 1242497109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reading longs < 1242497118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's 1024 words < 1242497121 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Nah, 1024 is good no matter the units < 1242497124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242497128 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4096 is also a good number; it's like four times better than 1024. < 1242497129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : What is the airspeed of an unladen European swallow? Interpretation: estimated average cruising airspeed of an unladen European swallow 950 km/day (kilometers per day) < 1242497139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: 4096 bytes is bigger than most /// programs < 1242497144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 1024 / sizeof(long) < 1242497155 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if it doesn't divide evenly < 1242497161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: who cares? < 1242497162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what if you remove the qualifier "unladen" < 1242497183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, "too much load" atm... < 1242497195 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It still interprets it as if there were "unladen" there. < 1242497198 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just keep trying, generating yet more load when it's already loaded is funny < 1242497202 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ah ,ok < 1242497218 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's also completely unable to find the same for other species of birds. :/ < 1242497246 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :special-cased, unfortunately < 1242497251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : The function ferror() tests the error indicator for the stream pointed to < 1242497252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : by stream, returning non-zero if it is set. The error indicator can only < 1242497253 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : be reset by the clearerr() function. < 1242497255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ how am I meant to print out the error? < 1242497261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :printing the error from ferror? < 1242497262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1242497263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fread < 1242497266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it adds the qualifier in the interpretation it seems. < 1242497279 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm not sure you can? < 1242497281 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: when something goes wrong reading a file, the reading function returns an error value and sets errno < 1242497290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also sets either the error or eof indicator < 1242497301 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can find out whether it went wrong due to error or eof, then check errno if it was an error < 1242497305 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: man fread says nothing about errno < 1242497308 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and use strerror or perror to get an error message < 1242497312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it does set errno, though < 1242497316 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm "wolf running speed" suggests "wolf speed", interpreted as "Wolf (movie) | Speed 2: Cruise Control (movie)" and then it does a movie comparison. < 1242497329 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Is that portable, then? < 1242497330 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a helpful "Assuming Wolf | Use Lobo, El instead" link. < 1242497337 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I think so < 1242497346 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect at least man 3p fread to say something about it < 1242497355 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it does < 1242497360 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was looking at ferror's manpage by accident < 1242497360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : so you can find out whether it went wrong due to error or eof, then check errno if it was an error <-- err. Sure ferror() won't modify errno? < 1242497367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1242497369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's specified not to < 1242497375 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm pretty sure it's one of the few that doesn't < 1242497375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :along with all functions on that page < 1242497376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ferror(-22) < 1242497376 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=nigger < 1242497382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERRORS < 1242497382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : These functions should not fail and do not set the external variable < 1242497383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : errno. < 1242497385 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how nigger is connected to raccoon < 1242497392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or with a NULL pointer < 1242497395 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you might want to cache errno before anyway, just in case it stupidly calls malloc or something < 1242497395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1242497396 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather < 1242497398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I'm writing with nulls < 1242497406 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oo, it has IPA < 1242497407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to round the allocation size to the nearest power of two < 1242497410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the trick to do that again? < 1242497426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1242497429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1242497431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not nearest power of two < 1242497432 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearest, or larger, or smaller/ < 1242497434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearest multiple of sizeof(long) < 1242497438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: larger < 1242497444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nearest multiple of sizeof(long) rounding upwards < 1242497459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what is the shortest way to round up to a multiple of some constant < 1242497463 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, (x+(sizeof(long))-1) & ~(sizeof(long)-1) < 1242497474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, sizeof(long) might not be a power of 2 < 1242497479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1242497485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it might not? < 1242497491 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((x+(sizeof(long))-1)/(sizeof(long)))*(sizeof(long)) < 1242497492 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it might not < 1242497497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah right. < 1242497500 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: nope, you can legally have a 24-bit long in C, for instance < 1242497505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1242497508 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1242497511 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*48-bit long < 1242497512 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or a 7-bit char < 1242497513 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 is too short... < 1242497516 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: 7 is also too short < 1242497521 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you can have a 9-bit char < 1242497528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, depends on which C version iirc < 1242497529 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7 is? Why's that? < 1242497544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: minimum 8 < 1242497554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and you can't have 9 bit char in C99 logically. Since there is int8_t < 1242497554 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: "Why's that?" < 1242497560 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yep, unsigned char is specified minimum range 0-255 < 1242497563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Because they said so. < 1242497564 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has to be at least 8 bits < 1242497567 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, how the hell would you represent int8_t with 9 bit chars < 1242497569 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you can, in that case int8_t is undefined < 1242497580 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, isn't it required? I don't remember < 1242497588 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's required iff it exists < 1242497596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I hope you check if it exists by using ifdef, without using it < 1242497598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, POSIX 2008 specifies 8 bit char at least. No more no less. < 1242497602 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(POSIX does require char to be 8 bits, though) < 1242497612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:13 ais523: it's required iff it exists < 1242497616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's brilliantly pointless < 1242497621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, since I depend on POSIX that is a non-issue :P < 1242497634 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I mean, if there is a signed type that happens to be exactly 8 bits long, then int8_t has to be defined < 1242497640 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there isn't, then it needn't be < 1242497640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242497702 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :u?int_least{8,16,32,64}_t are always required in C99, though. < 1242497718 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just thinking DS9K for a moment: imagine a system with 8-bit char, 24-bit short, and a proprietary 16-bit type as an extension < 1242497729 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it would be legal to define int16_t but not uint16_t in that case? < 1242497788 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: C99 phrasing is "These types [int/unitN_t] are optional. However, if an implementation provides integer types with widths of 8, 16, 32, or 64 bits, it shall define the corresponding typedef names." Make of that what you wish. < 1242497803 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that does seem to imply that if intN_t exists, uintN_t should too. < 1242497853 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For those widths, anyway. Maybe. Unless you are specifying the typedef even when the implementation does not provide an integer type with the corresponding width, but I don't know how that should work. < 1242497871 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Psssssssssst ... somebody type !mush :P < 1242497875 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!mush < 1242497879 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1242497879 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Supported commands: addinterp bf_txtgen daemon daemons delinterp fyb help info kill mush userinterps 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch bct befunge befunge98 bf bf16 bf32 bf8 bfbignum boolfuck c chiqrsx9p choo cintercal clcintercal cxx dimensifuck echo forth glass glypho hello kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge ook pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor rot13 sadol sceql sh show slashes test trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl yodawg < 1242497884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!mush < 1242497887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :someone < 1242497888 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I set up a MUSH. < 1242497889 0 :someone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!mush < 1242497890 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For no reason. < 1242497891 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pueblo 1.0 enhanced? < 1242497892 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... mush seems to have been programmed separately < 1242497896 0 :someone!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1242497901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I can't DCC. < 1242497908 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Then telnet codu.org 6250 < 1242497917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does netcat work? < 1242497919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer netcat. < 1242497928 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of, but you need to send \r\n mebbe < 1242497928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Yes it does. < 1242497934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh great. GregorR-L: No line editing. < 1242497935 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: who, news, and help all give the same output, the intro message :-P < 1242497947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Add it and I'll try. < 1242497959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can telnet servers not do that? < 1242497959 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: If you prefer netcat then don't complain about it's limitations < 1242497959 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you run netcat with rlwrap? < 1242497961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure they can < 1242497964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I used telnt < 1242497965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :telnet < 1242497965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so stfu < 1242497966 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm there, via telnet < 1242497970 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but nobody else seems to be < 1242497982 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to be there via DCC but it doesn't work < 1242497984 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there only seem to be two rooms < 1242497987 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!mush < 1242497998 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People usually use MUSH clients, and an IRC client isn't actually a bad one. < 1242498013 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Telnet FTW. < 1242498031 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming a MUSH that handles TERM=VT100 well) < 1242498041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!mush < 1242498070 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, care to explain what the hell it is about < 1242498078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's a MUSH < 1242498082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUSH < 1242498119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mix of irc and mud? < 1242498136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, the who command doesn't work. It just prints the intro message < 1242498144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:18 Deewiant: GregorR-L: who, news, and help all give the same output, the intro message :-P < 1242498147 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's weird :P < 1242498302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUSHtroshka < 1242498331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: < 1242498332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quinn < 1242498333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quinn is actually Gregor! < 1242498335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Contents: < 1242498337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ball < 1242498339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Taken. < 1242498341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quinn is actually gregor! < 1242498376 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Look at your inventory. < 1242498396 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm also carrying you :P < 1242498396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mwahaha < 1242498597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, tell me when you 1) fixed the pick up bug 2) made something more interesting in there 3) Added a better interface so you can actually see what happens. Colour codes would help. < 1242498613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes back programming instead
< 1242498617 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, ^ < 1242498626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAAH YOUR MUSH ISN'T HOW I WANT IT GO FIX IT LAMEO < 1242498628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'M GOING HOME < 1242498634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Assuming "or" is referring to math | Use as referring to math instead < 1242498635 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION drops AnMaster in a Turign Tarpit
< 1242498637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ↑ < 1242498638 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Turing Tarpit < 1242498643 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND TAKING MY BALL WITH ME! < 1242498643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I logged out < 1242498644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: heh < 1242498660 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you click the other one, it gives you truth tables and forms etc, otherwise just the input < 1242498660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I'm much more interesting in coding on in-between than that mush < 1242498663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parsed < 1242498670 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I just dropped you in the turing tarpit too < 1242498679 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, if anybody wants to actually poke around at the MUSH, I'll give you wizard privileges. < 1242498679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the turing tarpet ay < 1242498681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tarpit < 1242498686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's north of esoland < 1242498687 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just a room :P < 1242498690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242498692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just left... < 1242498698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, closed the window < 1242498705 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm not sure I'm going to log in again. Unless GregorR addresses those mentioned issues. < 1242498716 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I've left for now too < 1242498720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may poke around later < 1242498721 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not just now < 1242498722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: who cares < 1242498732 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are the mentioned issues? < 1242498735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242498737 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what pick up bug, anyway? < 1242498739 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, look up a few lines. < 1242498742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : GregorR, tell me when you 1) fixed the pick up bug 2) made something more interesting in there 3) Added a better interface so you can actually see what happens. Colour codes would help. < 1242498748 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grabbing other people doesn't strike me as a ridiculous thing to be able to do < 1242498749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that you can pick up other people < 1242498755 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no pick up bug. < 1242498758 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's deliberate, almost certainly < 1242498759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and put them in your inventory < 1242498760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242498761 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a bug, that's a MUSH. < 1242498774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1242498786 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want @lock me = me < 1242498788 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1242498793 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting < 1242498797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how do you make a stream unbuffered in c? setbuf/setvbuf etc need you to specify a buffer location etc. < 1242498804 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That locks you so only you can pick ... you ... up. Except you can't actually pick yourself up :P < 1242498809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's with setvbuf < 1242498815 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a special combination of options < 1242498821 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably involving null in the buffer location < 1242498823 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, there is no complete list of commands btw. I had to guess that it was "quit" to quit < 1242498825 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In a MUSH, /everything/ is an object. Everything. That's just how MUSHes are. Rooms are objects, exits are objects, people are objects. < 1242498826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :together with another couple of things < 1242498828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of, say, exit < 1242498830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or leave < 1242498831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah yes < 1242498834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :setbuf(stream, NULL) < 1242498838 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, that is yet another issue. < 1242498857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, prize to anyone who figures out a good use for p&&(!q||(!r&&(p&&q))). http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=p+and+%28%28not+q%29+or+%28%28not+r%29+and+%28p+and+q%29%29%29&a=*C.or-_*MathOperator- for truth table < 1242498858 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG, you have to learn how to MUSH before you MUSH, shocking :P < 1242498864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: YO DAWG < 1242498872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, help commands didn't give me a list of commands. < 1242498883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, nor could I find one anywhere else < 1242498887 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: there are a few hundred of them, I imagine < 1242498890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1242498901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seee. I am far too esteemed for this. < 1242498907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :% ./slashes /dev/zero < 1242498907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zsh: segmentation fault ./slashes /dev/zero < 1242498907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1242498913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if fstat reports the size of /dev/zero wrong? < 1242498919 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1242498920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1242498920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1242498920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1242498930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Congrats, you're a flooder. < 1242498937 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Assuming "or" is referring to math | Use as referring to math instead < 1242498938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm just copying your behaviour < 1242498943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Yeah. :-P < 1242498968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Soon you'll be copying behaviour I rarely do so much that you'll be a giant dickwad. < 1242498972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :% ls -lh /dev/zero < 1242498973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel 3, 3 6 May 18:17 /dev/zero < 1242498975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious output. < 1242498977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what that comma is? < 1242498982 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you seem to do it quite a lot. < 1242498987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 3,3 is the name of the device < 1242498995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, they're the numbers you tell the kernel < 1242498996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care." < 1242498996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: And as we were taught in school: Two wrongs make a right. < 1242499000 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to access /dev/zero < 1242499003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that was after you flooded me < 1242499017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only flood in response to being constantly bugged about something repeatedly. < 1242499025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Odd definition of flood. < 1242499025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what do you think its size as reported as? < 1242499030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you fstat it < 1242499034 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't, I don't think < 1242499037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asking nicely until you get an answer != flood. < 1242499045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flood is posting a lot quickly < 1242499048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nicely? haha < 1242499060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you continually demand an answer from me as if you have some kind of obligation < 1242499060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the one above wasn't nicely no. < 1242499066 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can't use the st_size as more of a hint what you might be getting from the file, though. < 1242499077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when has repeatedly asking me ever helped AnMaster? < 1242499085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh? Why not? < 1242499086 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I can hardly see how it could report a "correct size" for /dev/zero. < 1242499091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's an fstat on an open file. < 1242499094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it's infinitely large < 1242499098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, since you seem to be attacking me when I say that MUSH seems boring and I'm not going to look at it again unless these major issues are addressed. < 1242499108 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Someone could still write more into it. < 1242499111 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's that we don't think they're major issues < 1242499113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I was mimicing your whining. < 1242499119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that is subjective. < 1242499129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, whining is wrong word. < 1242499139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You acted, AnMaster, as if you have a sense of entitlement to have these "bugs" fixed. You called them—objectively—bugs. You acted in a way that would suggest you'd "want your money back". < 1242499140 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, you're complaining about intended behaviour < 1242499147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is called "unreasonable", and I mocked it. < 1242499148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl, got more interesting stuff to do. < 1242499159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Well, true. < 1242499165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It's such a pain to reallocate, though. < 1242499166 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@ti0056a341-0392.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1242499167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Like the horrible messy interface. That is hard to read. < 1242499174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right. Intended feature. < 1242499177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you need glasses, AnMaster < 1242499181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 90% of all UIs are bad. True. < 1242499183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't perfect but it's easy to read. < 1242499184 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's intended for streaming onto a client, I think < 1242499189 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's exactly the same as IRC over telnet < 1242499192 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just with less metadata < 1242499223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes. But why did he make it available over DCC then without adding that translation < 1242499236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's a quick hack? < 1242499251 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since obviously Egobot acts as a gateway/proxy there < 1242499259 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it doesn't. < 1242499262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :translating to another protocol. < 1242499265 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, it doesn't. < 1242499266 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beh, Wolfram Alpha fails on "turing machine 596440" < 1242499270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L, then it should. < 1242499271 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I'd expect it to be good at < 1242499273 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DCC chat protocol is telnet. < 1242499298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what about 2,3? < 1242499307 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I tried that search term too < 1242499312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1242499313 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are lots of 2,3 turing machines around < 1242499314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|A can't handle (p and ~q and ~r and s) or (~p and q and ~r and s) or (p and ~q and r and ~s) or (~p and q and r and ~s) < 1242499317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it can handle similar things < 1242499317 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried, it no worky :PP < 1242499328 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The DCC chat protocol is Telnet with metadata over IRC. < 1242499332 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get it right. ;) < 1242499332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it helps to specify which < 1242499335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you sure? < 1242499340 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oooooh :P < 1242499348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242499351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant < 1242499354 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|A: "universal turing machine" => "Computability: Additional functionality for this topic is under development... Leave your email address to be notified whan it is ready." < 1242499354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the dcc chats itself had metadata < 1242499357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are just raw telnet < 1242499357 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The connection is negotiated via IRC. < 1242499367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: any idea why my query doesn't work? < 1242499418 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, Wolfram Alpha doesn't have a special case for that yet < 1242499434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no, but, seriously; shorter forms using the same variables work < 1242499451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, "p and ~q and ~r and s" works < 1242499457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it timing out? < 1242499464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1242499467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: (p and ~q and ~r and s) or (~p and q and ~r and s) also works < 1242499471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the longer form — bzzt < 1242499506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: [ Infrastructure for this computation provided by Wolfram|Alpha launch partner Dell, Inc. ] < 1242499513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dell are on crack < 1242499529 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(p and ~q and ~r and s) or (~p and q and ~r and s) or (q and p and r)" also works, but not if you add the missing "and s" to that last group. < 1242499544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's truly bizarre < 1242499546 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curious limit-a-tron. < 1242499561 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-96.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1242499562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i was starting to have fun! < 1242499563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, indeed. < 1242499585 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe their logic-circuit drawing tool would start to overheat at that point. < 1242499597 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or they couldn't figure out how to do the Venn diagram any more. < 1242499610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I figured out what the math-or-math thing means < 1242499610 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to get it to give me the life expectancy in Europe in the middle ages, and it times out :P < 1242499619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :click use as referring to math and you get: < 1242499620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=p+implies+%28not+q+or+r%29&a=*C.or-_*InfixFunctionOperator-&a=ListOrTimes_Times < 1242499625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :click again and you get < 1242499625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=p+implies+%28not+q+or+r%29&a=*C.or-_*MathOperator-&a=ListOrTimes_Times < 1242499630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's infix function operator vs math operator. < 1242499637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a mathematical distinction, probably < 1242499656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1242499657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mathematica < 1242499659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yikes < 1242499663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I almost turned into wolfram there < 1242499686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input.Tips for good results » < 1242499686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Related inputs to try: < 1242499687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :life expectancy in Europe the middle ages more... < 1242499689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregorr: < 1242499693 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will you give me free Mathematicas then? < 1242499694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where life expectancy in Europe is separate from the other < 1242499697 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: p&&(!q||(!r&&(p&&q))) = p&&(!q||(!r&&q)) = p&&(!q||!r) < 1242499708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, how boring :-D < 1242499709 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : We’ve always thought that Mathematica was an increasingly development environment. < 1242499719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: they accidentally the adjective < 1242499722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242499729 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, he accidentally the adverb < 1242499730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: whut? < 1242499732 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The whole adjective? < 1242499733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no < 1242499738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "increasingly powerful development environment" < 1242499741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1242499742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242499742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :advert < 1242499743 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird : If you are now Wolfram < 1242499744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :b < 1242499748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thougth you said verb < 1242499753 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Did you not notice the "p&&(!q||!r)" form in the "minimal forms" table? < 1242499771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yyeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss... < 1242499779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: middle+ages+life+expectancy+in+europe doesn't work either < 1242499831 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i did not look at the page, actually *ducks* < 1242499857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1242499857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :european life expectancy in middle ages < 1242499858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work either < 1242499861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though each part does < 1242499870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah wai < 1242499871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :t < 1242499871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :life expectancy in middle ages < 1242499873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't work < 1242499924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I guess they don't have the data < 1242499928 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The nonsensical "middle europe the middle of the" gets input interpretation "Europe | center coordinates | Europe | center coordinates" but no results. < 1242499968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"middle europe the middle of the" is hilarious and I don't know why < 1242499996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asks european bulldogs' wingspan
< 1242500022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(p and ~q and ~r and s) or (~p and q and ~r and s) or (p and ~q and r and ~s) or (~p and q and r and ~s) works now! < 1242500026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1242500040 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I think it's Cuiled < 1242500049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: whadya mean < 1242500051 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is like being slashdotted, but instead of timing out, you randomly return worse results < 1242500054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1242500061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not worse results, I think < 1242500062 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what happened to Cuil, and everyone thought it was rubbish < 1242500062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just incomplete < 1242500065 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242500069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm having quite a fun time with this, actually < 1242500076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's good if you don't use it for what wolfram wants you to < 1242500114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1242500118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed it to as-in-math < 1242500120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it chopped my input < 1242500122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : which is like being slashdotted, but instead of timing out, you randomly return worse results <-- that makes a bad impression. Important rule: Always make it time out or display an error message in case of failure. < 1242500123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, maybe i'd just entered it < 1242500124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not searched < 1242500136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it doesn't make a bad impression in normal usage < 1242500137 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, cuil /did/ make a bad impression < 1242500141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some results are better than an error < 1242500144 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't nearly as bad as everyone thought it was < 1242500145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that is what I said! < 1242500392 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Height of the tallest tree is 0.86 times the length of Noah's Ark; that's useful information if anything. < 1242500443 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did know that football fields and such are generally used as human-grokkable size units, but I didn't know Noah's Ark even had a well-defined length. (300 cubits.) < 1242500448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :length of jesus < 1242500454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interpretation: Jesus | runtime < 1242500462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Result: 117 minutes (1 hour 57 minutes) < 1242500465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming Jesus (1979) | Use Jesus (2000) instead < 1242500473 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LMAO < 1242500473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The third and fourth comings, clearly. < 1242500486 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The year 2000 Jesus runs for 240 minutes. It's a much improved version. < 1242500490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Genres drama | family" < 1242500512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"box office total $43,124" < 1242500517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus in 1979 was wildly popular. < 1242500540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus height < 1242500541 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Well, "height of Jesus" => "Interpretation: Jesus, Itapua, Paraguay | elevation" => 221 metres. < 1242500544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242500547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to say < 1242500547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242500561 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :221 metres, no wonder He made quite an impression. < 1242500566 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1242500577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how tall's christ the redeemer? < 1242500587 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, making TinyMUSH spew colors and/or at least highlights = wowzersdifficult. < 1242500591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :38 meters high < 1242500597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the miniature version < 1242500646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the issue seems to be is that it has no idea his height < 1242500646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh < 1242500653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is contravarsial < 1242500658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it places his date of birth as 4 BC < 1242500678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: as a christian, what is your stance on that? :-P < 1242500686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea how accurate Alpha's data is < 1242500693 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it got Jimbo's birthdate wrong, what else could be wrong? < 1242500698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also spells bethlehem as Bayt Lahm, which while correct is amusing < 1242500700 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I reported the error to Alpha, btw, to see what happened) < 1242500704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: click source information < 1242500710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :primary source: Wolfram|Alpha < 1242500710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I did < 1242500713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :secondary: lots < 1242500714 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242500717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i mean on http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=jesus+christ < 1242500721 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ... That's controversial? < 1242500723 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :including Wikipedia and the Encyclopedia Britannica < 1242500733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it isn't? Wasn't he born - yknow - 1 AD? < 1242500745 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's slightly worrying that they list the Encyclopedia Britannica 1911 as a source for Jimbo's birth < 1242500749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :DD < 1242500750 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I though that it was fairly well-known that 1 AD was the wrong date, and we only use it because of tradition. < 1242500767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I will never understand religion. < 1242500810 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This isn't even a case of religion. < 1242500819 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a case of dating methods. < 1242500821 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's all. < 1242500844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ah, so the stance is "4 BC was called 1 AD when the bible was written"? < 1242500862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sth < 1242500870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, i wrote that wrong < 1242500875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, infer the correct meaning :^) < 1242500905 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the stance is rather "in the middle ages, we though Jesus was born 1 AD, so we stuck that as the calendar's epoch. As it turns out, we had the wrong date. Too late to change the epoch." < 1242500927 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our current dating system didn't exist during Christ's lifetime, you see. ;) < 1242500936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't understand how both "the people who wrote the bible were wrong about stuff" and "the bible is the true word of God" can co-exist < 1242500939 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distance to the moon / height of mt everest = 45296 < 1242500965 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhhh, there's no mention of BC or AD in the Bible ... < 1242500973 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: There weren't many specific dates in the Bible itself. < 1242500975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: thus my phrasology < 1242500982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:07 ehird: er, i wrote that wrong < 1242500982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:07 ehird: whatever, infer the correct meaning :^) < 1242500994 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what the correct meaning is :P < 1242500999 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The dating itself is from 400 AD and later. < 1242501002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah well that's your problem GregorR-L :) < 1242501002 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There just was no exact date in the Bible, so they guessed. < 1242501024 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as it turns out, they were off by a few years. < 1242501057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w|a doesn't know what christianity is < 1242501059 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's about as controversial in Christian circles as whether or not Christ was born. :p < 1242501063 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average distance to Jupiter in lightminutes = 41.26 < 1242501064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it knows it's in the category religion < 1242501089 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242501195 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to make it give me a plot of the distance to Jupiter now, and it's failing :P < 1242501205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: plot of what < 1242501222 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...... the distance to Jupiter. Over time. < 1242501230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Over time. Right. < 1242501240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Over time of what? < 1242501246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm trying to get you to be specific to W|A here ;-) < 1242501254 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time ... of what? < 1242501263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: What, exactly, do you want plotted? < 1242501279 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The distance from Earth to Jupiter over ANY period of time. < 1242501286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From earth. To jupiter. There you go. < 1242501301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: try "plot distance to jupiter from earth over 2007 to 2008" < 1242501306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.justin.tv/clip/2dd6b9f07e7f8a4e the same guy is still standing up < 1242501345 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I tried something very similar before, and that now, and neither work. < 1242501363 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GEEZE WOLFRAM ALPHA GIMME DA PLOTS < 1242501366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh well, fudge with the input. < 1242501382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: start simple and build up < 1242501394 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've tried tons of things, I'm out of ideas :P < 1242501402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: "distance to jupiter" infers "from earth" < 1242501403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a start < 1242501414 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I've got all that, that's dull. < 1242501423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries distance to jupiter
< 1242501426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1242501439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: "distance | from to Jupiter, Florida, United States" < 1242501439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1242501443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries distance to jupiter, 2007 to 2008
< 1242501443 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is hard to get it to understand "distance to Jupiter" without it interpreting the distance part as "current distance from Earth". < 1242501444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is < 1242501508 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, "distance to jupiter 1999" works; "input interpretation: Jupiter | current distance from Earth | 1999" and "Result on Jan 1, 1999: 5.171 AU". < 1242501514 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard to get plots out of it though. < 1242501531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION asks distance+to+jupiter+2007+to+2008
< 1242501536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Argh. < 1242501539 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tried that < 1242501541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{2007 distance | from to Jupiter,Florida,United States,2008 distance | from to Jupiter,Florida,United States} < 1242501555 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jupiter is in Florida? < 1242501563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :distance to jupiter 2007, 2008 < 1242501563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.173 AU (astronomical units) | 2008 < 1242501564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost... < 1242501567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: indeed! < 1242501573 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Distance to jupiter since 1900" gives the distance to Jupiter in 1900 from the town Since, Colombia < 1242501579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242501580 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1242501615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6.173 AU (astronomical units) | 2008 < 1242501618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1242501620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :distance to jupiter in 2007 and 2008 < 1242501623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interprets and as logical and < 1242501652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=distance+to+jupiter+in+2007%2C+distance+to+jupiter+in+2008 < 1242501656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :manual! < 1242501677 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=why+did+the+chicken+cross+the+road%3F < 1242501707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: wait, it plots functions < 1242501718 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm tring plot distance to Jupiter at time x < 1242501724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries plot distance to jupiter x from x=1900 to 2008
< 1242501725 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant : kekeke < 1242501732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plot | Lysithea | current distance from Earth | x = 1900 to 2008 < 1242501734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT < 1242501758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries with parens
< 1242501761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plot (distance to jupiter in x) from x=1900 to 2008 < 1242501763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not understood < 1242501764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :butt < 1242501835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :england to england works, england to england via australia doesn't :-( < 1242501868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=england+to+jupiter+by+plane NOT FLORIDA AGAIN! < 1242501985 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't make sense < 1242501992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course < 1242501994 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no constant distance between the two < 1242502006 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why we're plotting it over time. < 1242502015 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or trying to < 1242502038 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :7.8 hours? < 1242502046 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a pretty good time for Jupiter < 1242502092 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really think this is entirely incapable of giving me the plot I want. < 1242502197 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how do you even calculate the geodesic from England to Jupiter? < 1242502200 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Straight line? < 1242502371 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=JFK+to+Newark+by+plane < 1242502376 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :145 seconds! INTOLERABLE < 1242502566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W|A can't figure out someone's lifespan < 1242502896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1242502897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"age when john f kennedy died" works < 1242502901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without anything before it < 1242502908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: W|A can infer more context than humans.. < 1242502909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1242504224 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So BTW, all the commands at the login screen work, they're just case sensitive (like it says they are) < 1242504962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28%28p+and+q%29+and+%28%28r+xor+%7Es%29+and+t%29%29+or+%28%7Ep+and+%7Et%29 < 1242504969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most fucked up expression ever? < 1242504973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that venn diagram is fun < 1242504980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a butterfly, one of its wings is highilghted < 1242504982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*highlighted < 1242505712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 145 seconds! INTOLERABLE <-- that seems way way too low < 1242505854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I challenge you all: < 1242505872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find the Wolfram Alpha boolean expression giving the most hideously complex logic circuit you can. < 1242505875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: GregorR-L: you're on. < 1242505886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Find the Wolfram Alpha boolean expression giving the most hideously complex logic circuit you can. <-- cool idea < 1242505944 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: erm, JFK and Newark are in the same city iirc < 1242505970 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that being new york) < 1242505975 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah. Even so it doesn't make much sense since an aircraft can't reach top speed right away. < 1242505985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :take off, landing and so on < 1242505992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could easily do it in 145 seconds < 1242505994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a rush < 1242506039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That isn't allowed though. There is this check list thing before you take off. And then you need to wait for take off/landing permissions and so on. < 1242506050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's by plane < 1242506053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not by plane legally < 1242506059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or by plane according to standard regulations < 1242506084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: oh, a rule for the competition: if there's a minimal form that gives a simpler logic circuit, you're out < 1242506085 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, even so, for so short distances the take off time is a significant portion of it < 1242506123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and you can't speed up to max speed that fast. Nor can you fly at the max speed at low level. Learn the difference between IAS, TAS and GS < 1242506152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm not entering that competition < 1242506168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1242506319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what about (p and q) or (p and (not p or s) and (not r or q or (not q and t))) and (not t) though < 1242506348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, the nand form may be easier < 1242506373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, Wolfram Alpha is temporarily unavailable. Please try again. < 1242506373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: DataPacletFilter: Unable to get Connection Too many connections < 1242506375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the (p&&q)||(p&&!r&&s&&!t) form of that has a simpler circuit < 1242506375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1242506386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea is to get an actual operation that's hard in a logic circuit < 1242506388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try using loads of variables < 1242506392 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-35-208.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1242506446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input. < 1242506447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1242506450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(p and q) or (p and (not p or s) and (not r or q or (not q and t))) and (not t) or (a and not (not b or c)) < 1242506453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't like that < 1242506454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1242506455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "and not" < 1242506458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use ~ instead of not < 1242506459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and more parens < 1242506470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what do you mean "and not"? < 1242506470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: btw, I win < 1242506472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=a+or+b+nor+c+xor+d+nand+e+xor+f+and+g+or+e < 1242506476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arguably, that's cheating < 1242506481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: from your thing: "or (a and not (not b or c))" < 1242506486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not is probably tripping it up < 1242506493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why is that < 1242506498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because its parser sucks < 1242506505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and yes yours is cheating < 1242506515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's say: only p to s < 1242506520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, wait < 1242506523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :p,q,r,s < 1242506523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1242506525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm not going for it < 1242506533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boring < 1242506541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so boring that you attempted it < 1242506554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, and while doing that i found out it was boring < 1242506585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I fail to see what you mean with your comment above < 1242506596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1242506602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds boring != is boring < 1242506607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't know without testing it < 1242506609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1242506645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=And%5BOr%5BNand%5Bp%2CXor%5Bq%2Cr%5D%5D%2Cs%5D%2Cp%5D < 1242506646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i win < 1242506724 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a weird shape for a Venn diagram < 1242506730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not playing though < 1242506739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey guys, AnMaster isn't playing < 1242506740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, there is no such diagram there? < 1242506741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you notice? < 1242506747 0 :cherez!n=cherez@69.76.143.134 JOIN :#esoteric < 1242506754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so who did you win against < 1242506756 0 :cherez!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242506761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world < 1242506762 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: there is, but not all the page will load if Alpha is busy < 1242506767 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, aha < 1242506783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is no logic circuit either < 1242506787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me < 1242506805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, can you upload a screenshot < 1242506814 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would not be worth it < 1242506820 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just try again when they are less busy < 1242506827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, tried 5 times already < 1242506847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strangely they did not magically get less busy < 1242506884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fun fact: nand(p,xor(t,nor(p,t))) is nand(p,t) < 1242507058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how do you think I should ask it about the forall/implies logic? < 1242507071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it will fail < 1242507077 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I might be wrong < 1242507080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :three progress bars slowly crossing < 1242507081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1242507095 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing at all apart from that now < 1242507118 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAQ: "Should I cite Wolfram|Alpha when I use results from it? Yes. For academic purposes, Wolfram|Alpha is a primary source." < 1242507123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:51 kyevan: ehird: Eh, why? < 1242507124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:51 kyevan: Also, ehird: SINE MISSES YOU < 1242507125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:51 ehird: kyevan: Well, t'was done when Arc came out. I am become Haskell, destroyer of egos. < 1242507127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:51 ehird: Also, aagh! < 1242507129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hAhahaha < 1242507152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDGI < 1242507164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: which one < 1242507165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sine or fiz < 1242507169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sine < 1242507180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather < 1242507186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you want "aagh" over < 1242507212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what channel btw < 1242507234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That was in #haskell, and if you don't know what Sine is, you could try asking someone who does. < 1242507247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I know what the sine function is < 1242507254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't see the joke anyway < 1242507257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing to do with that. < 1242507262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then what < 1242507277 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i={x|x+not+in+x} < 1242507282 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn you Wolfram < 1242507287 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why won't you understand me < 1242507344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, isn't that Russell's paradox? < 1242507424 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1242507433 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1242507497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why does wolfram alpha has a control room that is mentioned whenever it times out < 1242507507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why not? < 1242507513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a bunch of people looking at figures and laptops < 1242507515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :live feed < 1242507524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it isn't like it is NASA. < 1242507533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do not underestimate Wolfram's ego. < 1242507540 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Live feed? < 1242507544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes, to him it *is* rocket science < 1242507547 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can they make an erotic dance? < 1242507705 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok: http://www4a.wolframalpha.com/Calculate/MSP/MSP4883195gc302i3ag9ae1000057gfdb6c7cbg6h08?MSPStoreType=image/gif&s=47 < 1242507709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is curious < 1242507717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree ais523 < 1242507733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you agree with what? < 1242507742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that it is curious < 1242507753 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Boolean operator number" < 1242507755 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242507757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1242507762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googles
< 1242507776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : No results found for "Boolean operator number". < 1242507777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: wolfram's thing. < 1242507787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly it = the 1d cellular automata number < 1242507790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's simple enough < 1242507797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh right, his fixation with numbers < 1242507801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather < 1242507805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with numbering things < 1242507809 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also no result for kolmogorov machine :( < 1242507818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, try google! < 1242507819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor even turing machine < 1242507822 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: "If you are under age 18 you may use Wolfram|Alpha only if you have permission from a parent, legal guardian, or teacher." I assume you've taken care of this? < 1242507830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Wow, now that's retarded. < 1242507833 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, how do they enforce that? < 1242507838 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's right there in the Terms of Use. < 1242507841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's just say I teach myself things and thus am a teacher of me. < 1242507847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what terms of use? < 1242507850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have indeed given myself permission to use Wolfram Alpha. < 1242507853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "Wolfram|Alpha" < 1242507855 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you continue to use it, you're assuring them you're either 18 or have the required permissions. < 1242507865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, but where is the hidden link < 1242507886 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird : Are you your own parent? < 1242507889 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's at least in the FAQ. < 1242507898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The link, that is.) < 1242507905 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These terms are a contract you have to agree to before using the Wolfram|Alpha service. " < 1242507910 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also why the 18+ limit? < 1242507912 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can they manage that, if most people never read them? < 1242507916 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't even have a clickthrough < 1242507923 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and because people below 18 can't legally agree to contracts < 1242507944 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=porn < 1242507945 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's also a terms of use link at the bottom of the front page, though it's not very visible. < 1242507955 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does link to "child pornography" rather quickly < 1242507991 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, the continuation of that part is even better. < 1242507995 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"By using the service you are telling us either that you are over age 18 and legally able to form contracts, or that an adult with authority to act on your behalf has agreed to these terms and to be responsible for ensuring your compliance with them in your use of the service and any results you obtain from it. If you don't want to be bound by these terms, do not use the service or its results. However, you may want to consider one of our paid subs < 1242507996 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cription options, which offer modified terms of use that may be more desirable to you." < 1242508006 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you're not old enough, you can just pay us." < 1242508027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I only found out that google had terms of use after several years of using it < 1242508030 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too hidden as well < 1242508063 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If you make results from Wolfram|Alpha available to anyone else, or incorporate those results into your own documents or presentations, you must include attribution indicating that the results and/or the presentation of the results came from Wolfram|Alpha." < 1242508070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: :_D < 1242508071 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, they have the odious Mathematica advertising clause in Alpha too < 1242508071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1242508081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what is that clause < 1242508111 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Besides, your little competition might have violated the terms too. "Any attempt to use a robot, script, or *organized group of humans* [emphasis mine] to repeatedly access Wolfram|Alpha -- is strictly forbidden." < 1242508119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: :-D < 1242508122 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we're too disorganized to count, though. < 1242508133 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The specific images, such as plots, typeset formulas, and tables, as well as the general page layouts, are all copyrighted by Wolfram|Alpha at the time Wolfram|Alpha generates them." <--- is that even legal? < 1242508151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it can't be. < 1242508158 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If Wolfram|Alpha is sentient, why not? :p < 1242508167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, where is the advert clause you mentioned < 1242508171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't find what you mean < 1242508182 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second para of "Attribution and Licensing" < 1242508252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A list of suggested citation styles and icons is available here. < 1242508254 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If any provision of the Terms of Use is held to be invalid or unenforceable, such provision shall be deemed superseded by a valid enforceable provision that most closely matches the intent of the original provision, and the remaining provisions shall continue in full force and effect." < 1242508254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great < 1242508275 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, their lawyers have taken the standard severability clause much further < 1242508285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the contract is invalid, it rewrites itself so that it's valid < 1242508291 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a lot more ridiculous than just severability < 1242508304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: HHAHAHA < 1242508357 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Spidering, data-mining, scraping, or probing Wolfram|Alpha, or otherwise attempting to abuse the service, is not only a violation of these terms but may also constitute violation of federal and state laws concerning unauthorized access to computer systems." < 1242508358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242508362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have no robots.txt < 1242508367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarious < 1242508371 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242508372 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they should sue Google < 1242508390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, who will just say "use robots.txt" < 1242508423 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are also not permitted to stick frames around Wolfram|Alpha (no matter how clearly you point out that it's not part of your site or any such thing) without their express permission. < 1242508436 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're trying to ban all sorts of things < 1242508437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I don't see why I should it < 1242508445 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that clearly wouldn't work as an EULA, but they're trying to make it work as a contract < 1242508447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want their messy web page < 1242508449 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without any explicit way to agree to it < 1242508457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that doesn't work < 1242508464 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"These terms are a contract you have to agree to before using the Wolfram|Alpha service." <-- factually incorrect < 1242508474 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because clearly, lots of people have used it without reading them < 1242508477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1242508487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I'm not going to use it again. < 1242508498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, why not? < 1242508501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from it sucking < 1242508510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, read above? < 1242508519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:14 ais523: "These terms are a contract you have to agree to before using the Wolfram|Alpha service." <-- factually incorrect < 1242508521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore, they don't apply < 1242508524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :last I looked google's TOS was at least unusually sane. < 1242508539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though that was a few years ago < 1242508544 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I suspect their lawyers have gone mad < 1242508557 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Google has a cached copy of http://www.wolframalpha.com/ so I'm sure they've violated at least some of them. It's been automagically crawled, for one thing, and the cached copy is "surrounding" it with some own material. < 1242508562 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1242508595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should report this to wolfram alpha just to see how they react when they realise what happened. < 1242508597 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to google < 1242508603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better do it to google < 1242508625 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then wolfram alpha might get mad when it isn't listed in google any more < 1242508634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hilarity ensues (sp?). < 1242508648 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact en*sue*s < 1242508792 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ennnnnnnnsus < 1242508825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha, a green. < 1242509838 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1242510294 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1242510314 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1242510385 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip70-171-213-254.tc.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242510419 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram alpha is kind of lam. < 1242510421 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame, even. < 1242510495 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1242510497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's kind of lamb < 1242511162 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lamb is so tasty < 1242511164 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but veal is not < 1242511759 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially with garlic! < 1242511774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99% of all food can only be improved by adding more garlic < 1242511806 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 99% of all food can only be improved by adding more garlic < 1242511815 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the remaining 1% hm... Well gralic icecream... It is a chance in a million, but it might just work! < 1242511819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow, I'm surprised you have that opinion < 1242511823 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you in particular, that is < 1242511830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/opinion/onion/ < 1242511830 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've eaten garlic ice cream. < 1242511831 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's good. < 1242511837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 100% of all food can only be improved by adding more bacon < 1242511837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, interesting < 1242511843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :additionally, 100% of all food can only be improved by adding more chocolat < 1242511844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1242511845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that I love garlic? < 1242511850 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only thing that can't be improved by adding garlic is those things that have already had too much garlic added :P < 1242511856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in case you think that's contradictory: < 1242511858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's my religion. < 1242511862 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Dark chocolate? < 1242511866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like no suggar < 1242511875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sugar* < 1242511896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Why, chocolate is chocolate; even the foulest of chocolates is an improvement— white "chocolate", of course, not counting as chocolate— and beyond that it is up to your own tastes. < 1242511897 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's some awfully dark dark chocolate :P < 1242511901 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or the more common milk chocolate < 1242511903 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dark chocolate means no milk. < 1242511913 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bittersweet chocolate means no milk, little sugar. < 1242511917 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Baker's chocolate means no sugar. < 1242511918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bacon, however... < 1242511930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who strip the fat of bacon are evil agents of the End Times. < 1242511932 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :white "chocolate" > brown chocolate < 1242511934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*off < 1242511934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO < 1242511937 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, milk chocolate is garbage. < 1242511941 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And white chocolate is megagarbage. < 1242511943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : People who strip the fat of bacon are evil agents of the End Times. <-- I hate fat bacon < 1242511949 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And dark chocolate is dark bliss. < 1242511955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Dude, it's just yuck without the fat. < 1242511956 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bittersweet chocolate is even better. < 1242511966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I have some 80% chocolate < 1242511967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, too dark chocolate tastes foul IMO < 1242511969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is quite awful < 1242511971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1242511974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not awful < 1242511975 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1242511978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just doesn't taste like chocolate < 1242511980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, a healthy dose of sugar is needed! < 1242511983 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolfram alpha must either have some very interesting AI < 1242511983 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 80% is awesome! < 1242511985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can buy 100% chocolate; I would like some. < 1242511994 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 100% is baker's chocolate, it's terrible. < 1242512001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, don't eat it. I tried it. < 1242512003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :once < 1242512003 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or some very VERY laboriously laid out data and query interpretation < 1242512010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Not that 100% < 1242512011 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 80% is the peak for me. Beyond that it gets worse in either direction. < 1242512019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can buy 100% from Lindt for human consumption. < 1242512023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it 99%? < 1242512025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, probably 60% for me. < 1242512026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever, that sort of number. < 1242512027 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 99% < 1242512032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1242512034 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had that :P < 1242512035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanna try it. < 1242512040 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From Gherrideli (sp) too. < 1242512041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't tried it. < 1242512043 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear that it's totally different to chocolate. < 1242512043 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not great :P < 1242512051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, it's more a sort of spicy flavour than a chocolatey one < 1242512060 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's not awful It just doesn't taste like chocolate < 1242512064 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for white chocolate < 1242512065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agreed. < 1242512078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite good. < 1242512087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway nougat rules them all < 1242512124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the light brown kind of nougat < 1242512197 0 :ineiros_!n=ineiros@rogue.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1242512245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fil:Nougat_sweets.jpg <-- that looks tastey < 1242512299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1242512319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and why are you surprised that I like garlic. < 1242512343 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1242512361 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a huge preference for one particular food sounds more like oklopol or ehird than you < 1242512364 0 :ineiros_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ineiros < 1242512376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, you know "autocondimentor"? From TP. < 1242512412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I'm not *quite* that, but I tend to add garlic flavoured herb salt (I don't know if it is called that in English) to most meals. < 1242512439 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We just say "garlic salt", but it's probably the same. < 1242512448 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, it has more than just garlic in it < 1242512454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lots of other herbs too < 1242512466 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are lots of garlic salts with more than just garlic :P < 1242512471 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, unless I have fresh herbs at home here. < 1242512477 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, what about garlic salts without garlic < 1242512483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have such herb salts here < 1242512492 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seasoning salt. < 1242512503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so lets call it seasoning salt with herbs? < 1242512506 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1242512508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with garlic < 1242512514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw: also black pepper if it is pasta of course < 1242512515 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure :P < 1242512523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and soya if it is rice or rice-like < 1242512532 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put seasoning salt on popcorn. It's yummy. < 1242512539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like popcorn < 1242512541 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: garlic is delicious. < 1242512547 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just feel like agreeing with you there < 1242512560 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grounds garlic into psygnisfive's very SOUL
< 1242512566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, I had some raw garlic just half an hour ago. Was very nice < 1242512566 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grinds* < 1242512576 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, grinds :P < 1242512583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh me too! < 1242512585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1242512655 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: 1 head of garlic, minus the easily removed outer skin. cut the tips of the cloves off and coat lightly with olive oil. sprinkle on to it oregano, wrap in tin foil, and bake for 45 minutes to an hour at 400 degrees. < 1242512657 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm delicious < 1242512681 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounces nice yes < 1242512684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds* < 1242512689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you skip the olive oil? < 1242512693 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you really shouldnt < 1242512696 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1242512704 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the garlic comes out soft and sweet < 1242512707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't like olive oil really < 1242512717 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats ok, you really dont eat much of it < 1242512736 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242512738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, plus, I don't have any more fresh garlic at home. < 1242512739 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you turn the garlic upside down and squeeze and the cloves slide right out of the skin < 1242512774 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you cooked it long enough for the cloves to be REALLY soft, theyre sort of squish out, but either way, the oil is mostly on the skin anyway. < 1242512787 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its there to like... conduct heat, or something, really. < 1242512801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : the garlic comes out soft and sweet <-- garlic shouldn't be sweet. If I wanted sweet I would go for sugar < 1242512803 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you dont cover the whole thing in oil, its just mostly the top bits < 1242512808 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no, anmaster, trust me < 1242512811 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its a good sweet < 1242512815 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sugary < 1242512820 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its delicious, just try it < 1242512822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay < 1242512826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I remember it < 1242512832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when I have more fresh garlic < 1242512838 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it isn't midnight almost < 1242512845 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its pretty simple.im sure you can get close by just baking a whole head of garlic < 1242512870 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you jsut have to cut off the tops of the cloves before you do, otherwise itll be impossible to get the garlic out < 1242512888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, I only have dried garlic at home currently < 1242512889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fresh < 1242512893 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I told you above < 1242512894 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eugh < 1242512907 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :go buy some garlic, jesus. < 1242512931 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, Um. It should be up next week (green house) < 1242512948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first ones < 1242512953 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1242512966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, you "grow" food when possible. Not "buy" it. < 1242512967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242512977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better for the environment. Less transports. < 1242512986 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sure, but you cant "grow" yourself some garlic to cook today, can you? < 1242512987 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1242513003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, no. Because it is half an hour to midnight. All shops are closed too. < 1242513012 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame. < 1242513022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus. I just ate. < 1242513023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1242513030 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, and what is lame. < 1242513040 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your grocery stores not being open 24 hours < 1242513058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, and you said bake for 45 minutes. By that time it won't be today any more < 1242513062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus I can't do it today < 1242513065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUH < 1242513084 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do not make me bust out the lexical semantics on you. < 1242513094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the what? < 1242513099 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LEXICAL SEMANTICS, FOOL < 1242513108 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean FOO' < 1242513118 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i meant foo' i would've typed bar' < 1242513120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I could just /ignore you if it was too annoying linqustics stuff < 1242513128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, and why should shops be open 24h < 1242513142 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: because then you could go get garlic! < 1242513143 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh. < 1242513166 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pity the FOO < 1242513176 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, that is a major stress causing factor for those who work there. It is better for humans to be awake during day than night. Various biological reasons for it. < 1242513187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah, that meme is way way way outdated. < 1242513191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more than AYB even < 1242513194 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: tell that to my body < 1242513207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, ? < 1242513216 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or to the 50% of the population that is biologically predisposed to being awake at night < 1242513221 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as recent studies have found! < 1242513226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, And I have garlic flavoured bread at home. < 1242513237 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally not the same < 1242513247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, very true < 1242513279 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but im just being a garlic whore. < 1242513307 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe a garlic hoare, given the company i keep here < 1242513352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1242513356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the joke < 1242513368 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CARHoare < 1242513377 0 :CARHoare!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who cares about garlic, look at this medal i have! http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/people/thoare/tony2.jpg < 1242513381 0 :CARHoare!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :psygnisfive < 1242513382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1242513388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CARHoare? < 1242513390 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDGI < 1242513404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, you work for MS? < 1242513420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that can't be you < 1242513422 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CARHoare does! < 1242513431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1242513437 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you totally confused me < 1242513437 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C. A. R. Hoare < 1242513448 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sir Charles Antony Richard Hoare < 1242513455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear what you say < 1242513460 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1242513462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that name doesn't mean anything to me though < 1242513463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242513468 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoare logic < 1242513475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googles
< 1242513484 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a logic for imperative languages. < 1242513492 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Men < 1242513495 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh* < 1242513501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive, and what has that got do with you < 1242513505 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1242513511 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i said i was being a garlic whore < 1242513513 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In such cases, one uses wiki, not google < 1242513517 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : or maybe a garlic hoare, given the company i keep here < 1242513528 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i made a pun based on the name "hoare", which is said the same as "whore" < 1242513558 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"C.A.R. Hoare, is a British computer scientist, probably best known for the development in 1960 of Quicksort (or Hoaresort)" < 1242513560 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting < 1242513598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1242513601 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is interesting < 1242513606 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume we're not calling it "Hoaresort" nowadays due to the pronunciation-based misambiguatities. < 1242513612 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1242513614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1242513622 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :horse oort! < 1242513769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1242513798 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :front < 1242513812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :up < 1242513956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:29 AnMaster: better for the environment. Less transports. ← yeah walking is like the devil < 1242513958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:32 AnMaster: psygnisfive, that is a major stress causing factor for those who work there. It is better for humans to be awake during day than night. Various biological reasons for it. < 1242513961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're full of shit < 1242513975 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird let it go, hes silly. < 1242513988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :psygnisfive: try dealing with him on a daily basis before saying that :) < 1242514022 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the more reason you should let it go! < 1242514037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i plead insanity < 1242514150 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1242514249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um... How do you think it got to the store < 1242514260 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, probably by truck < 1242514273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: guess what? it's in the store whether you buy it or not < 1242514289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you think that you, as a tiny meaningless statistical factor, could cause pressure to ship more garlic in any meaningful way < 1242514299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is ridiculously egotistical < 1242514319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, don't vote. you are a tiny meaningless statistical factor. What you vote for won't change anything, < 1242514322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/,/./ < 1242514361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You've brought up that bullshit before. < 1242514364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've rebutted it before. < 1242514365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Next, please. < 1242514371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is the same concept. < 1242514394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure it is in AnMaster-land < 1242514408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes I think not voting is bull shit too. But I'm just extrapolating from your own opinions. < 1242514473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :…where by "extrapolating" you mean "making shit up". < 1242514479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1242514487 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've done things to affect statistics before < 1242514489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And asserting things < 1242514513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, And I try to tell other people about it, so they do the same thing. < 1242514524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus of course home grown tends to taste better. < 1242514534 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you grow your own garlic? < 1242514562 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not as much me as having a mom how is a gardening geek. < 1242514562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: as far as I can tell, he views going to a store as a blot on his very soul < 1242514575 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1242514587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yes I tend to prefer home grown and home made food < 1242514588 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in that case, why does he think he has a statistical effect on the store < 1242514591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he doesn't go there? < 1242514602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usually it tastes better. < 1242514657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :less artificial flavour from flavour enhancers and so on... < 1242514674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: by consciously thinking about not going to the store, he telepathically is "not there", as a positive instead of just not "there" < 1242514688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus influencing statisticsa < 1242514691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*statistics < 1242514695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what the hell do you mean. < 1242514700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are full of bull shit < 1242514705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's what I'd like to know myself! < 1242514723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: By the way, it's "bullshit" < 1242514727 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, I've refused to buy things because they're too expensive before < 1242514736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sounds like you are trying a straw man argument... < 1242514737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good job! < 1242514738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I don't see how that's relevant < 1242514742 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally I spend the money at a competitor of the people who were charging too much < 1242514750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's what you call "extrapolating from your behaviour" < 1242514753 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that probably does put some sort of small pressure on < 1242514766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is, yes, a strawman argument < 1242514779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, then in your case you couldn't explain the difference though. < 1242514785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night all! < 1242514792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you haven't explained the difference yourself < 1242514798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, between what? < 1242514809 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... it seems Norway are getting a runaway win on Eurovision < 1242514813 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the largest score ever < 1242514815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"extrapolating from your behaviour" voodoo jumps to conclusions VS strawman < 1242514823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what did you do wrong? < 1242514833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why are you watching eurovision? < 1242514834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm trying to figure out what you're being punished for) < 1242514842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I said that far more classily :| < 1242514850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah you did < 1242514861 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I find modern music so bad anyway that Eurovision isn't any worse by comparison < 1242514868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, seems we agree on something for once. That ais523 disagree with us on < 1242514871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1242514872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My. < 1242514877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: oh, I don't know < 1242514882 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only it was incredibly bad this year < 1242514884 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, even worse than normal < 1242514892 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what about the Swedish one < 1242514898 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an example of just how bad the competition is, the UK are curretnly fourth < 1242514900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if pop is like a plastic facade of music, eurovision is like the silicone version < 1242514902 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and Sweden's fourth-last < 1242514909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1242514924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I actually thought the Swedish one was good when I heard it on radio recently < 1242514935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was like pop + opera < 1242514939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: No more 'Wolfram|Alpha isn't sure what to do with your input'. Wolfram|Beta knows the answer to ALL your questions! < 1242514944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.wolframsbeta.com/ < 1242514951 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the performer is in fact a opera singer for her day-to-day job < 1242514953 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: heh, already? < 1242514956 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :before I click on that, what is it? < 1242514965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's like Wolfram|Alpha, except it knows the answer to everything < 1242514971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(no shock sites or anything.) < 1242514973 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it always answer 42? < 1242514979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit! < 1242514979 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use Google? < 1242514985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1242514990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well, it also asks its mom for washing, and reads 4chan, while calculating 42 < 1242515004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's sort of like the nutri-matic machine, except the thing it always gives is better than the truth < 1242515008 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1242515024 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it also reads digg < 1242515024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8kz97/no_more_wolframalpha_isnt_sure_what_to_do_with/c09mbiq < 1242515025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it said < 1242515025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahah < 1242515030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, I was just giving a sample < 1242515035 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-102-10.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1242515043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1242515051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: google analytics, what's your point < 1242515052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you see that in almost every page < 1242515059 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you should post Alpha's terms-of-use contract to reddit < 1242515062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it collates browser statistics etc < 1242515066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a suitably scary headline < 1242515071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: for graphing and stuff by the webmaster < 1242515072 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ok, and why do you want to give that to google < 1242515080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: google doesn't read it < 1242515082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the site owner does < 1242515083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than just use webalizer or analog or whatever < 1242515093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that requires a web server setup, has a klunky UI, .. < 1242515104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's no more dangerous information than a logfile < 1242515109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, NEWS NEWS < 1242515115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :browsers don't go around giving just anyone important info... < 1242515117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what? < 1242515128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, All web pages "requires a web server setup". < 1242515133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you didn't know that! < 1242515136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you're a retard. < 1242515141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try and set up webalizer sometime < 1242515144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then set up google analytics < 1242515148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I did last month < 1242515154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :took, uh 5 minutes? < 1242515160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I prefer analog < 1242515163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :protip: google analytics consists of pressing a button and adding it to the bottom of your footer template < 1242515172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a bonus, it has a better UI < 1242515188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but it will only work if the client has javascript turned on < 1242515200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: guess what almost every web browser in the modern world has turned on? < 1242515211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :javascript < 1242515222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know you use Noscript. Yes, you too, oh, and you! < 1242515226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's about 0% < 1242515236 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, javascript-off use is increasing a lot < 1242515238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure. But you underestimate how popular extensions like noscript is < 1242515247 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and remember, crawlers scrape without javascript < 1242515253 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd say that's a bigger factor than javascript < 1242515258 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*noscript < 1242515259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: To about 0.5%, perhaps. And that's okay, because analytics don't matter for crawlers. < 1242515259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1242515266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's to measure what humans are visiting your site. < 1242515279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'm interested to see if I have been crawled too < 1242515286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just FYI < 1242515288 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I deliberately block analytics scripts < 1242515293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you still have logfiles < 1242515295 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even more so than the general blocking of JS < 1242515295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, same here < 1242515305 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp says 5 % off. < 1242515308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Um yes duh? < 1242515308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: unfortunately you cannot block apache/access.log < 1242515310 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I never let them in even when I unblock a site, and I have NoScript set to put them in a separate menu < 1242515311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that's w3schools < 1242515314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: guess who their audience is? < 1242515315 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't mind access.log < 1242515316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technical people! < 1242515317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that is interesting < 1242515324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's meaningless < 1242515328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and. What audience do you think I have. < 1242515331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w3schools has reported firefox as wildly popular since forever < 1242515332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's third-party analytics scripts that annoy me, why don't they just use their server logs? < 1242515332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Technical. < 1242515334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Duh! < 1242515337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so don't bloody use it < 1242515348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: reddit requires javascript, it has a bunch of technical people < 1242515356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many people do you think it's lost due to requiring JS everywhere? < 1242515361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd say a few thousand < 1242515361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's third-party analytics scripts that annoy me, why don't they just use their server logs? <-- that is what I'm arguing for too! < 1242515370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because these give more detail? < 1242515377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I turn it on for those sites I'm interested in. < 1242515381 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I don't like them trying to track me across sites easily < 1242515392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, same < 1242515394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's okay because they can't. < 1242515404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why I argue with the two people who never change their minds < 1242515408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must be fucking bonkers < 1242515410 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which two? < 1242515414 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I change my mind about some things < 1242515416 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not others < 1242515423 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I agree with ehird sometimes, and AnMaster sometimes < 1242515435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rare enough that angels go by my window singing a heavenly song everytime it happens < 1242515454 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, thecounter.com statistics (which shouldn't be *that* technically-oriented) for April 2009 is 6% no-Javascript: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2009/April/javas.php < 1242515457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wolframbeta: What is the question to life, universe and everything? 42 < 1242515460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is WRONG! < 1242515462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::((((((( < 1242515469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1242515470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1242515474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Symetrical: < 1242515476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it cannot possibly be wrong < 1242515479 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by definition < 1242515480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :42? 42 < 1242515492 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, the universe would have ended if it was right! < 1242515508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean wolframbeta < 1242515526 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I wonder why I argue with the two people who never change their minds < 1242515539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:12 AnMaster: I wonder why I argue with the two people who never change their minds < 1242515545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why I argue with the one person who never change his mind < 1242515545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1242515554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you never change your grammar either < 1242515574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and what does that have to do with this < 1242515585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing < 1242515630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting name for a movement: "Andante di molto - Allegro" < 1242515635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both in one? < 1242515737 0 :psygnisfive!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving..." < 1242515806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lovely music though < 1242517095 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1242517146 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Read error: 182 (Connection reset by beer)"