< 1245542421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrmph. The main problem with my new lisp is that oh-so-superficial of follies, syntax. < 1245542434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sexp. < 1245542457 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wait, what? < 1245542474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But of course; that is, however, not as deep as syntax goes. < 1245542483 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean by "functions are of type function"? < 1245542491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, the structure of the lists you use in your special forms and macros are part of a Lisp's syntax. < 1245542507 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I may just be wrong. < 1245542517 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it depends on what you mean < 1245542525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And sexps can be extended to great effect; some code I have futzed with got a lot cleaner by making x.y shorthand for (y-of x). < 1245542530 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But... C++0x did some fiddling to get first-class functions in C++. < 1245542546 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well they added lambdas < 1245542551 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :functions themselves haven't changed < 1245542554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combined with !-assignment, (! point.x (+ point.y 33)) is a lot nicer than (! (x-of point) (+ (y-of point) 33)). < 1245542558 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdas are just struct types < 1245542568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So there ;) < 1245542570 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curses. Guess I'm going to have to do everything with lambdas, then. :P < 1245542585 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've also added bind though < 1245542607 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :function x = [](){return 42;}; // FTW. < 1245542616 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can do auto f = bind(function, arg1, _1, arg2);, and then f(arg) would be function(arg1, arg, arg2) < 1245542635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: "bind"? What a retarded name; "apply-partially" would be more appropriate. < 1245542645 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's a Boost library < 1245542652 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :based on the old binders < 1245542653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I know. < 1245542658 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the standard library < 1245542666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, by the way. Yesterday, you guys know I was defending PulseAudio/ALSA? < 1245542672 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't see why bind is bad; you are binding an argument to a function < 1245542741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://insanecoding.blogspot.com/2009/06/state-of-sound-in-linux-not-so-sorry.html has converted me to a new religion: OSS v4. Open source, modern, nice API, extremely low latency, compatible with OSS v3, more accurate sound than ALSA, and ALSA's API can output to OSS for applications only supporting it. < 1245542745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kick. Ass. < 1245542764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... "More accurate sound"? < 1245542767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never thought I'd say "OSS is awesome!" :-) < 1245542772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: better floating point calculations < 1245542783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very vague way of saying that indeed, but still < 1245542792 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is... Unlikely. < 1245542796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "OSS sound mixing is of higher quality than ALSA's, due to OSS using more precise math in its sound mixing." < 1245542811 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, does ALSA use x87 for its floating point calculations? < 1245542829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I get the idea that OSS's calculations more carefully avoid rounding errors, etc. < 1245542839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whatever, the other points stand anyway. < 1245542905 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CPAM CPAM BOHDERFYL CPAM < 1245542918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spam, spam, bohderfyl cpam. < 1245542947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the wiki, that is < 1245542954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION futzes happily with examples in his hypothetical lisp ^_______^
< 1245542965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Tis the fun of dreams. < 1245543004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially making the advantages of multiple-dispatch possible without the braindeadedinessy of OO. < 1245543125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*random chemistry set explodes* < 1245543129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The perils of being a proglanger. < 1245543163 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pro-glanger) < 1245543195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glanging is kick-fucking-ass. < 1245543226 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Glang dat bitch < 1245543227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def factorial (n) < 1245543227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (product (range n))) < 1245543228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;; smells like haskell. < 1245543327 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'd really like is functional (as in, working) multiple dispatch in C++ < 1245543356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'd really like is for C++ to die forever. < 1245543589 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple dispatch isn't all it's cracked up to be. < 1245543617 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agreed, it's not necessary, but it would certainly be nicer than, say, the Visitor pattern < 1245543624 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until you need it, anyway >_> But there are often simpler ways to model the problem < 1245543659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Multiple dispatch is simply superior to single dispatch; it is not always needed, it is not a panacea, and indeed, you can hack a solution using other ways. < 1245543661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. < 1245543662 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: < 1245543667 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1245543675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: But it is more general than single dispatch, and useful in cases. < 1245543686 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, good point. As I say, design patterns begin where a language's built-in abstractions end < 1245543686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Therefore, using single dispatch instead is not a good decision. < 1245543697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You did not invent that idea ;) < 1245543701 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :performance can be icky though < 1245543714 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. I independently invented the quote >_> < 1245543717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. Even a naive compiler is fast enough for like 90% of things. < 1245543726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A naive interpreter, say 40-60%. < 1245543731 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: by implication, a language which was well enough written would have no design patterns < 1245543754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Exactly. < 1245543755 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just don't send your naive interpreter into a dark alley < 1245543768 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: but it would be incredibly crippled in other ways < 1245543784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A perfect language requires no patterns or idioms because there is no repetition; all problems are expressed as their exact problem statement with no baggage. < 1245543794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, no design patterns are required. < 1245543806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is an impossible utopia, of course. < 1245543806 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, near by definition, syntax is a pattern < 1245543816 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternatively, a language which is well-written would have /no/ inbuilt patterns but make implementing them trivial, compatible and beautiful. < 1245543816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1245543827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Design patterns are, by definition, not implemented. < 1245543832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are conventions. < 1245543834 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"new plugins" < 1245543835 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1245543840 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, not quite what I meant ... < 1245543841 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :glad someone agrees with me :) < 1245543866 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reason a good language would have no design patterns is that the language would be written such that things -- oh, never mind, I don't care :P < 1245543915 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. Haskell typeclasses -- they may not themselves be a pattern, but because they precisely define structures, implementing patterns can become built-in as implementing classes < 1245543937 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was closer to what I was trying to say. < 1245543943 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1245543961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not a design pattern < 1245543969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an abstracted pattern is not < 1245543972 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but even typeclasses are limited for not-so-precisely defined structures < 1245543984 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: haskell typeclasses are not too dissimilar from interfaces in OO languages < 1245543984 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that's the point < 1245544029 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: yes, but while interfaces describe objects, typeclasses still better describe structures < 1245544062 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure of the difference between "objects" and "structures" < 1245544116 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well objectively they are similar, but there are some structural differences < 1245544135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: objects hide their data and expose operations, structures share their data and have no operations < 1245544169 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those structures sound nothing like haskell's data types < 1245544181 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that the whole point of type classes is to expose operations < 1245544202 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of the principles we read or don't read into them, in terms of implementation interfaces and typeclasses have dictionaries, etc. < 1245544211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: typeclasses are separate from the structures < 1245544226 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so pretty similar in that way.. < 1245544392 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: interpret 'structures' as you wish, but to me it seems that typeclasses better codify relationships between types, and the structure that certain types have that allow this < 1245544437 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, I wish adding laziness to a Lisp wasn't ugly. < 1245544471 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course interfaces don't do a terrible job either, but both have their strengths and weaknesses (typeclasses mostly are problematic for complicated interactions between them, like open recursion) < 1245544512 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, well < 1245544513 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they sure have a nice internal representation < 1245544531 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if haskell has any additional expressive power over OO languages, it's in parametric types, not in type classes < 1245544547 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parametric types including parametric type classes < 1245544583 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb dinner. chicken marsala < 1245544630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The author believes 3D is Turing-complete, but isn't quite sure. He thinks the following program may prove it: < 1245544630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIGHT ADD 0 1 INT DOWN < 1245544632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UP 16 0 INT LEFT < 1245544634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an infinite loop, every time adding 1 to INT0, and setting INT(INT0) to 16. So this would set INT1 to 16, INT2 to 16, INT3 to 16, until infinity. < 1245544637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turing completeness fail < 1245544781 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programs that do that sort of thing don't prove TCness < 1245544785 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they do make it seem more likely < 1245544871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def prime? (n) < 1245544871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (def relevant-primes (take-while (fn (p) (<= (^ p 2) n)) primes)) < 1245544873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (not (any (fn (p) (= (modulo n p) 0)))) < 1245544875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def primes < 1245544877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (lazy-cons 2 (filter prime? (infinite-range 3 :step 2)))) < 1245544928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1245544929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's incomplete < 1245544933 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: mutual recursion? < 1245544937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def prime? (n) < 1245544937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (def relevant-primes (take-while (fn (p) (<= (^ p 2) n)) primes)) < 1245544939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (not (any (fn (p) (= (modulo n p) 0)) relevant-primes)) < 1245544941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1245544943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def primes < 1245544945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (lazy-cons 2 (filter prime? (infinite-range 3 :step 2)))) < 1245544960 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why specifically specify lazy-cons? < 1245544961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it's a lazy list based on a function which looks at the lazy list < 1245544967 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a reason not to have it lazy by default? < 1245544972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because my language is not lazy. < 1245544976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1245544977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lazy conses will be a library < 1245544983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although likely in the stdlib < 1245544999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lazy-cons is of course a macro, to avoid evaluating the second argument < 1245545004 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rather like Perl6's lazy-when-you-can't-tell-it-from-eager-except-by-the-way-it-doesn't-get-into-an-infinite-loop < 1245545017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it's a translation of this haskell: < 1245545021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isprime n = not . any (\p -> mod n p == 0) . takeWhile (\p -> p^2 <= n) $ primelist < 1245545021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :primelist = 2 : [p | p <- [3,5..], isprime p] < 1245545034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is shorter, true, but mine is also short and just as readable < 1245545080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i do wonder if not.any should be "none", though, and if perhaps (= (modulo x y) 0) should have its own name < 1245545088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(divisible? x y), for instance < 1245545094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, any should have a question mark < 1245545102 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1245545114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def prime? (n) < 1245545114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (def relevant-primes (take-while (fn (p) (<= (^ p 2) n)) primes)) < 1245545116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (none? (fn (p) (divisible? n p) relevant-primes)) < 1245545118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1245545120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def primes < 1245545122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (lazy-cons 2 (filter prime? (infinite-range 3 :step 2)))) < 1245545126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :voila! < 1245545157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def prime? (n) < 1245545157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (def relevant-primes (take-while (fn (p) (<= (^ p 2) n)) primes)) < 1245545158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (none? (fn (p) (divisible? n p)) relevant-primes)) < 1245545160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1245545162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def primes < 1245545164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (lazy-cons 2 (filter prime? (infinite-range 3 :step 2)))) < 1245545166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :had my parens wrong :-) < 1245545271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps (divisible? a b) is not common because it mainly appears in toy problems. i use it quite often, though < 1245545929 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. common lisp uses applicative evaluation order, right? and is strict? < 1245545953 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or undefined argument evaluation order? < 1245546016 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely strict, at least < 1245546096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: it's strict. unsure about the other. < 1245546105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: CL is very much not a functional language < 1245546127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (def relevant-primes (take-while (fn (p) (<= (^ p 2) n)) primes)) < 1245546127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (none? (fn (p) (divisible? n p)) relevant-primes)) < 1245546129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ it occurs to me that without fancy lazy trickery, this is more complex, time-wise, than needs be < 1245546274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: oerjan: poll (a) make lazy lists fancy and lazy (but normal lists could be too and BAH), (b) make that implementation a little less naive, (c) it doesn't matter, that algorithm sucks anyway! < 1245546333 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any prime algorithm that directly checks divisibility arguably sucks :P < 1245546343 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1245546347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's incredibly naïve < 1245546355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's naïve in a way that's a trivial implementation detail, too < 1245546359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh, it's clearer that way < 1245546449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A friend, on that algorithm: < 1245546450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is 401 prime?" < 1245546451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, rt 401 ~ 20, so we'll start at the bottom and go up to 20." < 1245546453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"'okay. Does two divide it?" < 1245546455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nope." < 1245546457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alrighty then. ...what's the next prime after two?" < 1245546459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...I don't know." < 1245546461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Is it three?" < 1245546463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Well, rt 3 ~ 1.732, so we'll start from ...okay, yes, it must be." < 1245546465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cool. Does three divide 401?" < 1245546467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...no." < 1245546469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...okay, so what's next?" < 1245546618 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the only dialogue written about it < 1245546637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. < 1245546640 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#2, http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Humor/Dialogs :) < 1245546651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But he isn't a programmer, and came up with it impromptu in a few seconds, and I liked it, so nyah :P < 1245546700 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh. well, to be fair, dialogue #2 is written about the mutually recursive primes definition < 1245546721 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which, as someone wrote a paper about, may have worse performance than naive algorithm). < 1245546735 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka not the true sieve. but brb. < 1245546773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sieve that can be attained is not the true sieve. < 1245546773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aum. < 1245546882 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?! < 1245546883 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!? < 1245546914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: wat < 1245546923 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :angkor < 1245546968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and for the record. < 1245546971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def infinite-range (start &kw (step 1)) < 1245546971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (lazy-cons start (infinite-range (+ start step)))) < 1245546973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was easy! < 1245547071 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1245547075 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf is this common list shit < 1245547078 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtfo < 1245547082 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lisp* < 1245547082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: lisp, not common lisp < 1245547088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: a new dialect. and why? < 1245547138 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme > all :| < 1245547141 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what dialect? < 1245547153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: A hypothetical one I'm making. < 1245547158 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah ok. < 1245547167 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(> scheme) haskell < 1245547170 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have never liked the (def foo (a b) ...) structure < 1245547187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Eh, I'm not too attached to it or (def (foo a b) ...) much. < 1245547196 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for some reason I never use spaces when currying operators like that < 1245547218 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. wel. < 1245547229 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just prefer (def (foo a b) ...) because it mirrors the function call < 1245547235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1245547252 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: do you like C declarations too? < 1245547255 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they mimic their uses? < 1245547271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: false dichotomy < 1245547281 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(> -2) 0 < 1245547285 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that wasn't a dichotomy, that was a question < 1245547305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you're implying that all use-mimicing definitions must be as much of a clusterfuck as C < 1245547308 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i dont mind them. < 1245547315 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int foo(x, b) { ... } isnt so bad. < 1245547317 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean to; I was wondering < 1245547360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1245547363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read it like that, though < 1245547571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: anyway, when my dialect is taking over the world, you will not say the gtfo you do ! ha ha !! < 1245547653 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will i also not speak proper english or is that something only you will do? < 1245547678 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. Results 1 - 10 of about 5,330 for "false trichotomy" < 1245547680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't preserve the step in my infinite-range, oops: < 1245547681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(def infinite-range (start &kw (step 1)) < 1245547682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (lazy-cons start (infinite-range (+ start step) :step step))) < 1245547684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: shush < 1245547704 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are any famous false tricohomies < 1245547709 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trichotomies < 1245547758 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds like a cute, fuzzy animal. < 1245547766 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With six legs. < 1245547771 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Three rows) < 1245547771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likewise, a tradition of argument found among some Protestants and Catholics alike argues that respect for Jesus as a teacher and a wise man is logically contradictory if one does not accept him as God as well, also known as the 'Lord, Liar, or Lunatic' argument: either He was insane, or a charlatan, or he was in fact the Messiah and Son of God. Cf. Christological argument. This argument was popularised by the Christian apologist C.S. Lewis in his book M < 1245547774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ere Christianity (p. 52). < 1245547774 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to Google "theism-agnosticism-atheism" is one < 1245547776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Critics of this argument assert that it presents a false trichotomy. Jesus may well have important things to teach and have wisdom to give even if he is wrong, ironic, misunderstood, or misquoted about his own relation to God. < 1245547778 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some guy on google < 1245547780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fideism#The_Christological_argument < 1245547787 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. that's interesting < 1245547812 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the trichotomy still exists. but, he claims, it is irrelevant < 1245547828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agnosticism is a kind of atheism < 1245547830 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er. critics claim rather < 1245547855 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Untrue. They form a venn diagram of sorts. There is an overlap, but neither is contained in the other. < 1245547861 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what thinking that religion is irrelevant falls under < 1245547868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :agnostic atheism, which is the logical position of anything of the sort, including teapots; "No, this is almost certainly not true, but I cannot say for sure either way" < 1245547869 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Apathy :P < 1245547874 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fundamentalist atheism, which is FUCKING STUPID. < 1245547892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("God doesn't exist, I'm logically right, you're a big poop, QED.") < 1245548076 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwww. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6ad_1245507294 < 1245548118 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dood, I wish squirrels were more normal pets. < 1245548123 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would totally have a squirrel. < 1245548213 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION eagerly awaits the Squirrel Patch
< 1245548218 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think your cat would totally have a squirrel, too < 1245548240 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: so you think dawkins is an agnostic atheist in that sense of the word. < 1245548250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Every sane atheist is. < 1245548256 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: My cat is a scaredy-cat, she would hide in the corner :P < 1245548261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fundamentalist atheism is logically indefensible, and the only sane argument for atheism is via logic. < 1245548264 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you think dawkins is a sane atheist < 1245548269 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1245548275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: His atheism is sane. < 1245548279 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1245548280 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1245548294 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just checking. cause some people make that same contrast and say dawkins is the fundamentalist atheist sort < 1245548295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Dawkins isn't exactly raving; Unweaving the Rainbow is a good book. < 1245548301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yes, but that's a bad definition < 1245548308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they use it to mean "atheist who is angry" < 1245548318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which has nothing to do with atheism itself < 1245548353 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is absurd, given how much he is open to discussing the issue < 1245548371 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course all angry people are insane < 1245548378 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was it the other way around < 1245548450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People who use "agnostic" to mean "I JUST DUNNO HOW CAN I EVEN START TO CONSIDER IT" are very silly; Russel's Teapot anyone? < 1245548533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Russell < 1245548584 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is a sane atheist
< 1245548619 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Aren't you special :P < 1245548741 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, i find it humorous when people treat the "null hypothesis" as some sort of outrageous concept < 1245548765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: what in particular are you replying to by me? < 1245548766 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where assuming nothing as a starting point is somehow CLOSED MINDED and shit < 1245548771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245548771 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing in particular < 1245548773 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just saying < 1245548773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1245548778 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i talk to some people and im like < 1245548785 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"well thats what you have to CONVINCE me of!" < 1245548787 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they're like < 1245548797 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"THATS NOT VERY OPENMINDED" < 1245548800 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its like < 1245548801 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1245548805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :religious people skirt the teapot by playing the faith card; i find that obnoxious, but ""agnostics"" have no such resolve, as they explicitly deny any faith < 1245548809 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im offering you the opportunity to convince me < 1245548816 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh its not even religious people tho < 1245548837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I know < 1245548843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just giving a follow up to: < 1245548847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:40 ehird: People who use "agnostic" to mean "I JUST DUNNO HOW CAN I EVEN START TO CONSIDER IT" are very silly; Russel's Teapot anyone? < 1245548847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:42 ehird: *Russell < 1245548910 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ya < 1245548916 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man, ehird < 1245548925 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should come to the grow report forums some times. < 1245548932 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My personal favorite line of argument in this area: A mind is just a sufficiently complex machine (in the computational sense). As computer scientists we know that a machine cannot emulate a machine of lower complexity; so, our existence in this physical universe means that the universe itself is at least as complex computationally as we are. But a mind is just a complex machine, so there's no useful distinction between our set of physical laws and a m < 1245548932 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ind (and so a "being"). Therefore, there is a god, in the truest of pantheistic senses. This piece of knowledge has literally no value however :P < 1245548936 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its wonderfully ridiculous < 1245548940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a forum for reporting your penis's growth? < 1245548955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Within this forum you will find a plethora of friendly & helpful people to make caring for your own personal needs or those of other Medical Marijuana Patient’s in need. < 1245548956 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1245548958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"medical" marijuana < 1245548969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the colour scheme is entirely incidental! < 1245548973 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1245548977 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they support iran! < 1245548978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should make a forum < 1245548979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theaspirinreport < 1245548981 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have for ages! < 1245548988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where we talk about "medical" aspirin < 1245549036 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION observes that ŝ != ŝ and lets loose the confusion
< 1245549057 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION observes that pikhq != ehird ... OR IS THEY
< 1245549071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR IS THEY < 1245549081 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR ARE HIM < 1245549098 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR ART ÞOU? < 1245549124 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You mean "or is þou" < 1245549148 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: How great þou art. < 1245549150 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245549154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/windows-help-bug.php < 1245549161 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How? Great poo art! < 1245549163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ the best laugh I've had all day :P < 1245549168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, yesterday, but MEH < 1245549239 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-131-50.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245549265 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: wtfbbq :P < 1245549277 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Þou and þy poo. < 1245549735 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1245550392 0 :immibis!n=IceChat7@125-238-252-206.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1245550676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone know how to plot arrays/lists w/ gnuplot? < 1245550963 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put them in a space-delimited file, then plot "name_of_file" < 1245550990 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(IIRC, both x and y /must/ be specified in the input) < 1245551065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Without using a retard fucking shitfile :P < 1245551079 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fairly certain that's the only way to do it. < 1245551130 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you could generate that to stdout, then gnuplot with a script that does plot "/dev/stdin" < 1245551132 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe < 1245551141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laaaaame < 1245551184 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram most delicious pie in the world < 1245551192 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$Failed \ \  < 1245551195 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245551311 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most delicious pi < 1245551589 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1245551590 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is HackBot, the extremely hackable bot. To run a command with one argument, type "`", or "`run " to run a shell command. "`fetch " downloads files, otherwise the network is inaccessible. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository; if you're faimilar with mercurial, you can fix any problems caused by accidents or malice. < 1245551597 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs better help < 1245551616 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1245551616 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR \ addquote \ calc \ define \ esolang \ google \ imdb \ quote \ wolfram < 1245551633 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/GregorR < 1245551633 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat >/dev/null < 1245551639 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :????? < 1245551639 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: Such as? < 1245551648 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least < 1245551652 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram --help < 1245551657 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$Failed \ \  < 1245551667 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some way to get a list of commands without knowing they are stored in bin < 1245551668 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, well that's a different issue. Those are just files added by "users" (read: me) < 1245551676 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'fork while fork' < 1245551733 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /proc/cpuinfo < 1245551735 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :processor : 0 \ vendor_id : AuthenticAMD \ cpu family : 16 \ model : 2 \ model name : Quad-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 2347 HE \ stepping : 3 \ cpu MHz : 1909.786 \ cache size : 512 KB \ physical id : 0 \ siblings : 1 \ core id : 0 \ cpu cores : 1 \ apicid : 0 < 1245551741 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat /proc/meminfo < 1245551743 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MemTotal: 1048792 kB \ MemFree: 12592 kB \ Buffers: 91448 kB \ Cached: 366592 kB \ SwapCached: 484 kB \ Active: 636708 kB \ Inactive: 250064 kB \ SwapTotal: 131064 kB \ SwapFree: 116012 kB \ Dirty: 632 kB \ Writeback: 0 kB \ AnonPages: 428464 < 1245551763 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 1048792-12592 < 1245551765 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 048 792 - 12 592 = 1 036 200 < 1245551777 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why HackEgo? < 1245551784 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 1036200/1024 < 1245551786 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 036 200 / 1024 = 1 011.91406 < 1245551798 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you've used up 1012MB? < 1245551801 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ps < 1245551802 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245551805 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ps ax < 1245551807 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245551813 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`which ps < 1245551814 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/ps < 1245551820 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ps ax 2<&1 < 1245551821 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245551821 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that that's almost all buffers and cache *shrugs* < 1245551823 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ps ax 2>&1 < 1245551824 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245551842 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shell commands need to be run with `run < 1245551849 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise that's run as ps 'ax 2>&1' < 1245551860 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run exec 5<> <(cat); echo hi >&5 < 1245551861 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245551871 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run exec 5<> <(cat); echo hi >&5; read str <&5; echo $str < 1245551872 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245551876 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245551883 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders wtf that's supposed to do ...
< 1245551892 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on normish that would output "hi" for some weird reason < 1245551967 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1245551987 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run touch xyz; exec 5<> <(cat xyz); echo hi >&5; read str <&5; echo $str < 1245551988 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552000 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run $0 < 1245552001 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552007 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245552016 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'bash $0' > run-myself < 1245552017 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552023 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo bash run-myself < 1245552024 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bash run-myself < 1245552025 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1245552028 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash run-myself < 1245552034 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552040 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run bash run-myself 2>&1 < 1245552046 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :run-myself: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable < 1245552053 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -R / < 1245552054 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552064 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -R / 2>&1 < 1245552064 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552069 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1245552088 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -dlR / 2>&1 < 1245552089 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552098 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -dlR / 2>&1 < 1245552099 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/ls: /: Function not implemented \ drwxrwxrwx 0 0 0 0 Jan 1 1970 / < 1245552102 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mknod -m 644 urandom c 1 9 < 1245552102 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552103 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1245552109 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat urandom < 1245552109 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552117 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, random-assed users can usually mknod X_X < 1245552119 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat urandom 2>&1 < 1245552119 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/cat: urandom: No such file or directory < 1245552125 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`pwd < 1245552125 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/hackenv.25944 < 1245552131 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mknod -m 644 urandom 1 9 2>&1 < 1245552132 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/mknod: missing operand after `9' \ Try `/bin/mknod --help' for more information. < 1245552136 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls -lR < 1245552137 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.: \ total 12 \ drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 5000 4096 Jun 21 01:42 bin \ drwxr-xr-x 2 5000 5000 4096 Jun 21 01:42 quotes \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 8 Jun 21 01:42 run-myself \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 0 Jun 21 01:42 xyz \ \ ./bin: \ total 32 \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 5000 261 Jun 21 01:42 addquote \ -rwxr-xr-x 1 5000 5000 268 Jun 21 01:42 < 1245552141 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mknod -m 644 urandom c 1 9 2>&1 < 1245552142 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/mknod: `urandom': Function not implemented < 1245552150 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :function not implemented? < 1245552155 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: mknod's being blocked < 1245552158 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Function not implemented, biatch < 1245552162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so is giving a not-implemented error < 1245552189 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1245552222 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo $PATH < 1245552222 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/hackenv.26129/bin:/usr/bin:/bin < 1245552229 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls /usr/bin < 1245552230 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X11 \ [ \ a2p \ addpart \ addr2line \ apropos \ apt-cache \ apt-cdrom \ apt-config \ apt-extracttemplates \ apt-ftparchive \ apt-get \ apt-key \ apt-mark \ apt-sortpkgs \ aptitude \ aptitude-create-state-bundle \ aptitude-run-state-bundle \ ar \ arch \ as \ awk \ base64 \ basename \ bashbug \ bdftopcf \ bdftops \ bdftruncate < 1245552237 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`X11 < 1245552237 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552241 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`[ < 1245552242 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552242 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`X11 2>&1 < 1245552243 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552245 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run X11 2>&1 < 1245552246 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/bash: line 1: X11: command not found < 1245552252 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run apt-get install ssh < 1245552253 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552257 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1245552260 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run apt-get install ssh 2>&1 < 1245552260 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (2 No such file or directory) \ E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? < 1245552267 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "Lawl, you're not root." < 1245552267 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1245552267 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lawl, you're not root." < 1245552269 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`rm -rf / 2>&1 < 1245552269 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552270 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat `which apt-get` < 1245552270 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ELF

< 1245552276 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that it? < 1245552278 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1245552284 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it gives you the rest in dcc < 1245552294 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it doesn't. < 1245552295 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it should < 1245552299 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not any more. < 1245552307 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`who < 1245552307 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552309 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I disabled that, I'm modifying things to make pastebin'ing an option instead. < 1245552321 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`whoami < 1245552322 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552328 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run whoami 2>&1 < 1245552328 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/bin/whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1705968 < 1245552337 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`killall -9 bash 2>&1 < 1245552337 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552340 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run killall -9 bash 2>&1 < 1245552341 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/bash: line 1: killall: command not found < 1245552354 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't understand how users work, do you? :P < 1245552355 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id < 1245552355 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=1640161 gid=1640161 < 1245552355 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`id < 1245552356 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=1943009 gid=1943009 < 1245552389 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it making a new user account each time you run it? that's.....odd........... < 1245552391 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're seriously randomising the UID‽ < 1245552435 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo No output. < 1245552435 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552517 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo int fork(); void main() {for(;;) fork();} > forkbomb.c; cat forkbomb.c < 1245552517 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552522 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat forkbomb.c < 1245552522 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552525 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat forkbomb.c 2>&1 < 1245552526 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552528 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat forkbomb.c 2>&1 < 1245552529 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/cat: forkbomb.c: No such file or directory < 1245552549 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run touch foo;ls foo < 1245552550 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo < 1245552558 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo 'int fork(); void main() {for(;;) fork();}' > forkbomb.c < 1245552558 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552558 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fail? < 1245552564 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat forkbomb.c < 1245552565 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int fork(); void main() {for(;;) fork();} < 1245552572 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run gcc forkbomb.c -o forkbomb < 1245552577 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`./forkbomb < 1245552577 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552590 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: You realise he sets ulimits, right? < 1245552616 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552830 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis assumes I am an idiot, even realizing I have randomized UIDs and all the other weird shit I have :P < 1245552844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat id < 1245552844 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552852 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run id < 1245552853 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=2014115 gid=2014115 < 1245552856 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run id < 1245552857 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=1076457 gid=1076457 < 1245552858 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run id < 1245552858 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uid=1391668 gid=1391668 < 1245552862 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see what you mean < 1245552887 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastebin.ca/raw/1468305 < 1245552888 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-06-21 01:54:48 URL:http://pastebin.ca/raw/1468305 [315] -> "1468305" [1] < 1245552890 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run id -n < 1245552891 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange, users with no username < 1245552908 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv "1468305" bin/paste; dos2unix bin/paste; chmod 0755 bin/paste < 1245552908 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552924 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run paste bin/google < 1245552924 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245552930 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm ... that ain't right :P < 1245552934 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait < 1245552936 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run paste bin/google 2>&1 < 1245552937 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--2009-06-21 01:55:36-- http://pastebin.ca/ \ Connecting to 127.0.0.1:3128... connected. \ Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden \ 2009-06-21 01:55:36 ERROR 403: Forbidden. \ < 1245552943 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, forgot to whitelist pastebin.ca :P < 1245552974 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run paste bin/google < 1245552975 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.ca/1468307 < 1245552979 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1245552988 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/tinycc/tcc-0.9.25.tar.bz2 < 1245552989 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-06-21 01:56:29 URL:http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases-noredirect/tinycc/tcc-0.9.25.tar.bz2 [382914/382914] -> "tcc-0.9.25.tar.bz2" [1] < 1245552992 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm < 1245552996 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a weird one, it insta-expired :P < 1245553006 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Good luck compiling that in <30 seconds :P < 1245553012 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tar -xf tcc-0.9.25.tar.bz2 < 1245553012 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245553015 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: 10 seconds. < 1245553042 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc-0.9.25;./configure;make;echo 'Done.' < 1245553043 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1245553049 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION proceeds to install bzip2 :P
< 1245553052 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls tcc-0.9.25 < 1245553053 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245553057 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Way to not check the output of tar ;) ) < 1245553061 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: ... Yeah, that'd help. < 1245553063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1245553075 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=90&p=&SrcDisplayLang=en&SrcCategoryId=&SrcFamilyId=a4dd31d5-f907-4406-9012-a5c3199ea2b3&u=http%3a%2f%2fdownload.microsoft.com%2fdownload%2fE%2f7%2f7%2fE77CBA41-0B6B-4398-BBBF-EE121EEC0535%2fWindows6.0-KB948465-X86.exe < 1245553090 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Done. < 1245553093 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that's windows vista sp2 five languages btw) < 1245553093 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: Filesize limit. < 1245553094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're attempting to install Windows on the bot? < 1245553100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tar -xf tcc-0.9.25.tar.bz2 < 1245553101 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245553102 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1245553105 0 :HackEgo!n=HackEgo@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1245553106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no, that's a patch < 1245553107 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no just download exessively large files < 1245553114 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excessively* < 1245553121 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc-0.9.25&&./configure&&make&&echo 'Done.' < 1245553122 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :big/little test failed \ Binary directory /usr/local/bin \ TinyCC directory /usr/local/lib/tcc \ Library directory /usr/local/lib \ Include directory /usr/local/include \ Manual directory /usr/local/man \ Doc directory /usr/local/share/doc/tcc \ Target root prefix \ Source path /tmp/hackenv.27975/tcc-0.9.25 < 1245553142 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's windows vista sp2 for english, french, german, japanese and spanish < 1245553147 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls tcc-0.9.25 < 1245553148 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COPYING \ Changelog \ Makefile \ README \ TODO \ VERSION \ arm-gen.c \ c67-gen.c \ coff.h \ config.mak \ config.texi \ configure \ elf.h \ examples \ i386-asm.c \ i386-asm.h \ i386-gen.c \ il-gen.c \ il-opcodes.h \ include \ lib \ libtcc.c \ libtcc.h \ stab.def \ stab.h \ tcc-doc.html \ tcc-doc.texi \ tcc.c \ tcc.h \ tccasm.c < 1245553159 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls tcc-0.9.25 | grep tcc < 1245553160 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :libtcc.c \ libtcc.h \ tcc-doc.html \ tcc-doc.texi \ tcc.c \ tcc.h \ tccasm.c \ tcccoff.c \ tccelf.c \ tccgen.c \ tccpe.c \ tccpp.c \ tcctok.h < 1245553163 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1245553164 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1245553174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems the compile failed. < 1245553179 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1245553179 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1245553179 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1245553180 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1245553181 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1245553181 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1245553182 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1245553182 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1245553182 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`yes < 1245553185 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1245553186 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1245553189 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no excess flood? < 1245553190 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y \ y < 1245553198 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: Yes, when you're a douchebag you can cause douchebaggery. < 1245553199 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Amazing. < 1245553199 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc-0.9.25&&make&&echo 'Done.' < 1245553200 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245553213 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1245553229 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION myndzi immibis myndzi
< 1245553230 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pikhq immibis pikhq
< 1245553239 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn. < 1245553350 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION myndzi
< 1245553351 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION immibis
< 1245553352 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION myndzi
< 1245553370 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ < 1245553370 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :     | < 1245553370 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :     >\ < 1245553371 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION myndzi immibis myndzi
< 1245553371 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pikhq immibis pikhq
< 1245553371 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION myndzi pikhq myndzi
< 1245553372 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION pikhq myndzi pikhq
< 1245553385 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi has flood protection < 1245553394 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..failure? < 1245553397 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame flood protection is lame. < 1245553417 0 :Patashu!n=Patashu@c122-106-162-185.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1245553420 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1245553422 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1245553428 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like I won't be using this method :P < 1245553438 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Yeah. < 1245553452 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1245553641 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1245553740 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1245553791 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I just realized how silly this all is :P < 1245553802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, it's a shame that tcc can't compile Linux without patching the source code. < 1245553927 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sobblecopter* < 1245554027 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1245554070 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE < 1245554105 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc*/; ./configure | paste < 1245554106 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.23032 < 1245554127 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc*/; make 2>&1 | paste < 1245554128 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.24791 < 1245554135 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aren't I clever :P < 1245554141 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has his mind boggle
< 1245554144 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make: *** No rule to make target `config.h', needed by `tcc'. Stop. // well that's odd >_> < 1245554154 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There exists a C->C compiler. < 1245554162 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There exist more than one. < 1245554165 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Configure failed, obviously. < 1245554175 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it didn't >_> < 1245554184 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, actually, I know the issue >_> < 1245554196 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, no I don't either .. < 1245554204 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld tcc* < 1245554205 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drwxr-xr-x 7 5000 5000 4096 Jun 21 02:16 tcc-0.9.25 \ -rw-r--r-- 1 5000 5000 382914 Jun 21 02:16 tcc-0.9.25.tar.bz2 < 1245554208 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CIL. < 1245554215 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can compile Linux. < 1245554229 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld tcc*/config. < 1245554230 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245554230 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run ls -ld tcc*/config.h < 1245554231 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245554273 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think (?) I fixed it. < 1245554274 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc*/; ./configure | paste < 1245554275 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.12573 < 1245554292 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooooooooooor not >_O < 1245554296 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, confused *shrugs* < 1245554585 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1245554589 0 :HackEgo!n=HackEgo@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1245554595 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<-- my fault :P < 1245556085 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if CIL can compile Linux, and if TCC can compile CIL output
< 1245556215 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know, llvm can output C too. < 1245556224 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... So it can. < 1245556579 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to install LLVM.
< 1245556585 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how slow that is < 1245556589 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to compile c to llvm to c < 1245556681 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1245556845 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, you guys failed to find and take advantage of a nasty bug :P < 1245556882 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It set $PATH too early, so if you'd put something fake in bin/pola-run, it'd escalate you to the hackbot user. < 1245557220 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LDC requires an SVN checkout of LLVM. How dumb. < 1245557233 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does clang. < 1245557251 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, clang is required to be checked out INTO an SVN checkout of LLVM. < 1245557252 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is very dumb. < 1245557264 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is *extremely* dumb. < 1245557308 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1245557312 0 :HackEgo!n=HackEgo@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1245557326 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand why HackEgo keeps getting bumped >_< < 1245557376 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/pola-run < 1245557377 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245557391 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, it's flooding. < 1245557789 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc-0.9.25; TMPDIR="$PWD" ./configure 2>&1 | paste < 1245557791 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.30170 < 1245557803 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc-0.9.25; make 2>&1 | paste < 1245557821 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methinks failzors due to timeout :P < 1245557841 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.6430 < 1245557862 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, it did failzors, but it still produced that output, interesting :P < 1245557955 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting, considering it's 3 files. < 1245557965 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch http://pastebin.ca/raw/1468358 < 1245557966 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-06-21 03:19:25 URL:http://pastebin.ca/raw/1468358 [154] -> "1468358" [1] < 1245557977 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run mv "1468358" bin/runfor; dos2unix bin/runfor; chmod 0755 bin/runfor < 1245557977 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245557986 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc-0.9.25; runfor 15 make 2>&1 | paste < 1245557998 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :runfor is a script that has no business existing :P < 1245558004 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/index.cgi/raw-file/tip/paste/paste.28914 < 1245558072 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's automatically ignoring .o files X-D < 1245558085 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I can't do an incremental build over a few runs until I fix that. < 1245558110 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, apparently that's not true. < 1245558157 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's ignoring .o files? < 1245558173 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercurial, but I'm wrong about that. < 1245558204 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's taking quite a few runs, but it's compiling ^^ < 1245558217 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoo. < 1245558277 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: That is an evil, evil script. < 1245558292 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245558765 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 'make install' is giving me the hyper-useful response "Unexpected error" X_X < 1245558771 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Can you install it manually? < 1245558780 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc-0.9.25; cp -f config.mak.before config.mak; sed 's#/usr/local#'$HACKENV'#g' -i config.mak; make install 2>&1 < 1245558781 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mkdir -p "/tmp/hackenv.580/bin" \ install -s -m755 tcc "/tmp/hackenv.580/bin" \ install: -m755 does not exist \ make: *** [install] Error 1 < 1245558791 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's a different error ... < 1245558793 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTFBBQ < 1245558826 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/usr/bin/install wasn't working, so I installed a script version in bin/ ... doesn't work :P ) < 1245558967 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Yes. < 1245558985 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "you" I meant you. < 1245558988 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not "one" < 1245559157 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~run cd tcc-0.9.25;cp tcc /usr/bin;mkdir /usr/local/lib/tcc;cp -r lib include libtcc /usr/local/lib/tcc < 1245559166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that should do it. < 1245559173 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1245559175 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc-0.9.25;cp tcc /usr/bin;mkdir /usr/local/lib/tcc;cp -r lib include libtcc /usr/local/lib/tcc < 1245559176 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245559188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tcc -h < 1245559188 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245559190 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............................ < 1245559195 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realize you can't install to /usr, right? < 1245559197 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tcc < 1245559197 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245559201 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1245559213 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too lazy to fix. :P < 1245559213 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can install to $HACKENV :P < 1245559232 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is tcc non-relocatable? < 1245559267 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno. < 1245559275 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, it might not need the /usr/local/lib/tcc stuff... < 1245559285 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run tcc-0.9.25/tcc < 1245559286 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcc version 0.9.25 - Tiny C Compiler - Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Fabrice Bellard \ usage: tcc [-v] [-c] [-o outfile] [-Bdir] [-bench] [-Idir] [-Dsym[=val]] [-Usym] \ [-Wwarn] [-g] [-b] [-bt N] [-Ldir] [-llib] [-shared] [-soname name] \ [-static] [infile1 infile2...] [-run infile args...] \ \ General options: < 1245559301 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cp tcc-0.9.25/tcc bin < 1245559302 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245559303 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1245559305 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cp tcc-0.9.25/tcc bin < 1245559305 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245559310 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`tcc < 1245559311 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tcc version 0.9.25 - Tiny C Compiler - Copyright (C) 2001-2006 Fabrice Bellard \ usage: tcc [-v] [-c] [-o outfile] [-Bdir] [-bench] [-Idir] [-Dsym[=val]] [-Usym] \ [-Wwarn] [-g] [-b] [-bt N] [-Ldir] [-llib] [-shared] [-soname name] \ [-static] [infile1 infile2...] [-run infile args...] \ \ General options: < 1245559345 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo -e '#include \nint main(){printf("Hello, world!\n");return 0;}' > /tmp/hello.c; tcc /tmp/hello.c -o /tmp/hello 2>&1; /tmp/hello < 1245559345 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cd tcc-0.9.25&&make CC=tcc&&echo 'done' < 1245559346 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In file included from /tmp/hello.c:1: \ /usr/include/stdio.h:34: include file 'stddef.h' not found < 1245559348 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make: Nothing to be done for `all'. \ done < 1245559356 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1245559361 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find that unpromising :P < 1245559375 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1245559385 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DECREE THIS NOT WORTH IT < 1245559386 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And delete < 1245559402 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run minifind tcc-0.9.25 | xargs rm -f < 1245559403 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245559404 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1245559406 0 :HackEgo!n=HackEgo@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1245559407 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_> < 1245559443 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run rm -f tcc-0.9.25* < 1245559444 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245559562 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245559564 0 :HackEgo!n=HackEgo@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1245559564 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245559578 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to watch it to see if it is flooding :P < 1245559598 0 :HackEgo!n=HackEgo@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1245559943 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :query hackego < 1245559950 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er forgot the / < 1245559988 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahha, yes, I see why it's fekky. < 1245560222 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: Havin' fun? :P < 1245560259 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for its source code < 1245560272 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/hg/ <-- < 1245561092 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 166 < 1245561092 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1245561215 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245561294 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1245561294 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote \ calc \ define \ esolang \ google \ imdb \ minifind \ paste \ quote \ runfor \ tcc \ wolfram < 1245561305 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/runfor < 1245561305 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$2" ] \ then \ echo 'Use: runfor ' \ exit 1 \ fi \ \ TIME="$1" \ shift \ \ "$@" & \ sleep $(( TIME + 0 )) \ kill -9 %1 < 1245561322 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/addquote < 1245561322 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ DB="sqlite3 quotes/quote.db" \ \ if [ ! "$1" ] \ then \ echo 'Add what quote?' \ exit 1 \ fi \ \ QUOTE=`echo "$*" | sed 's/'\''/'\'\''/g'` \ $DB 'INSERT INTO quotes (quote) VALUES ('\'"$QUOTE"\''); \ SELECT id,quote FROM quotes ORDER BY id DESC LIMIT 1;' < 1245561329 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1245561329 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1245561337 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that those can all be accessed more easily via that URL :P < 1245561651 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1245561719 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245562083 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1245562245 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245564567 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology esoteric < 1245564568 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esoteric \ 1655, from Gk. esoterikos "belonging to an inner circle," from esotero, comp. adv. of eso "within." In Eng., originally of Pythagorean doctrines. According to Lucian, the division of teachings into exoteric and esoteric originated with Aristotle. \ \ samadhi \ "intense esoteric meditation through yoga," < 1245565176 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245565468 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/etymology < 1245565469 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$1" ] \ then \ echo 'Look up what?' \ exit 1 \ fi \ \ QUERY=`echo -n "$1" | od -t x1 -A n -w1000 | tr " " %` \ \ lynx --cfg=/dev/null --lss=/dev/null \ \ --dump --width=1000 'http://etymonline.com/?search='"$QUERY" | \ grep -A 100 ']'"$1" | \ sed 's/\[[0-9]*\]//g ; s/ Look up.*// ; s/ */ /g' < 1245565645 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a way to tunnel sound over ssh < 1245565656 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that any sound you play on the remote computer comes to yours < 1245565682 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............ yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ................ < 1245565702 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, I guess in conjunction with X11 over SSH it makes sense. < 1245565723 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too bad that there's no universal standard of sound that's as intrinsically networkable as X11. < 1245566973 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology < 1245566973 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look up what? < 1245566983 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How surprising. < 1245566995 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology etymology < 1245566996 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etymology \ 1398, from Gk. etymologia, from etymon "true sense" (neut. of etymos "true," related to eteos "true") + logos "word." In classical times, of meanings; later, of histories. Latinized by Cicero as veriloquium. \ \ wormwood \ c.1400, folk etymology of O.E. wermod "wormwood," related to vermouth, but the ultimate < 1245567018 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run :(){echo \\;:};: < 1245567018 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245567022 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1245567034 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run :(){echo \\;:};:;echo bær < 1245567035 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245567081 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah < 1245567099 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while 1; echo \\; done < 1245567100 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245567110 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while 1; echo /; done < 1245567111 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245567115 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm < 1245567119 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo \\ < 1245567120 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while 1; do echo /; done < 1245567120 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ < 1245567120 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245567127 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do echo /; done < 1245567130 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/ \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / < 1245567135 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang it, your totally incorrect code is making me write incorrect code :P < 1245567139 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do echo \\\; done < 1245567139 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245567144 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do echo \\; done < 1245567145 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ < 1245567147 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whew. < 1245567163 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run while true; do echo \\o/; done < 1245567164 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                            | < 1245567164 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                           /'\ < 1245567165 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ < 1245567172 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.............. :( < 1245567205 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run yes '\''o''/' < 1245567206 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ < 1245567212 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: Oh come on :P < 1245567215 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo star; while true; do echo \\o/; done < 1245567215 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                        | < 1245567215 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                       /| < 1245567217 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :star \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ < 1245567230 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently there's some LIMIT or something :P < 1245567233 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo star; while true; do echo '\\''o/'; done < 1245567235 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :star \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ \ \\o/ < 1245567241 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, really? < 1245567254 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'\\' is \\? < 1245567264 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, duh? < 1245567281 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I figured it would be interpreted as an escape sequence. < 1245567281 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no interpolation in single quotes < 1245567287 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like it is in everything other than bash. < 1245567295 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo star; while true; do echo "\\"'o/'; done < 1245567298 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why single quotes exist :P < 1245567299 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :star \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ \ \o/ < 1245567312 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ < 1245567313 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :           |   |   |   |   | < 1245567313 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :          /'\  |\  >\  >\  >\ < 1245567328 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Broda, \o/o\o/o\o/o\o/o\o/ < 1245567328 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :          |   |   |   |   | < 1245567328 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :          |\  >\ /�\ /|   |\ < 1245567337 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woo. < 1245567346 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ Penis < 1245567354 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which way is ´ facing, by the way? < 1245567362 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why isn't it `? Does ` appear as well? < 1245567364 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He REALLY likes dancing. < 1245567415 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess rightward is the only one that makes sense. < 1245567461 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. yes, it does < 1245567503 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION smiles at how specific the sentence "it does" is
< 1245567517 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what 'e meant. < 1245567518 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So NYAA < 1245567529 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, really. < 1245567561 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If e'd meant something else, e'd have said "it is" or "he does" or "it is" or "it is" or "it would" or "there is". < 1245567596 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "he were" < 1245567616 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "it is" or "it is" or "it does"--ah! There's another sentence that abbreviates to "it does"! < 1245567634 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was said 28 minutes before the one myndzi actually meant. < 1245567638 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe e is < 1245567648 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I were a rich man, rich man, rich man, if I were a rich man I would cease inexplicably using "were" after "I". < 1245567667 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used e in a script < 1245567670 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it < 1245567677 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... oh yeah, guts < 1245567678 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not inexplicable at all. < 1245567696 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!guts ante < 1245567696 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[guts] Game starting, type !guts ante to ante up! (Game begins in 30 seconds) < 1245567698 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The verb "to be", conjugated in the present imperfect subjunctive: I were, he were, he/she/it were, we were, they were. < 1245567698 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hee. < 1245567726 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[guts] Not enough players, hand cancelled. < 1245567733 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: Yeah, but that's the only context in which that conjugation is acceptable :P < 1245567761 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get itchy every time someone uses "was" in that context. < 1245567767 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SRSLY? < 1245567773 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's certainly /correct/ < 1245567778 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They both are) < 1245567781 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how long it's been correct. < 1245567786 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get even itchier every time someone uses "would be" in that context. < 1245567800 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"If I would be a rich man". Say it with me. Eew. < 1245567812 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi, how many scripts do you have < 1245567819 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :myndzi: there's another script for you. If a message contains "Say it with me.", echo whatever comes after. < 1245567822 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: But ... that has a different meaning ... < 1245567826 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1245567829 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely! < 1245567830 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :84 currently loaded < 1245567836 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in past mircs.... < 1245567849 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://myndzi.seckzi.com/mirc6remotes.png < 1245567858 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometimes more :) < 1245567866 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think at least 130 before < 1245567877 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :part of the reason it's lower now though is i put all my misc shit in one file now < 1245567889 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 164k now D: < 1245567895 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1200 lines < 1245567943 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much memory do you have? < 1245567955 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION almost says something in all caps, but decides doing so would be unbefitting.
< 1245567956 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a couple gigs < 1245567965 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Namely, "ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND SCRIPTS!??!?!?!") < 1245567966 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those scripts don't take much really < 1245567975 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OVER NINE THOUSAND SCRIPTS < 1245567988 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OVER A GOOGOLPLEX OF SCRIPTS!? < 1245567991 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirc takes 10k fresh start < 1245567999 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, 10 megs < 1245568001 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10k k < 1245568001 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1245568007 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with those scripts loaded < 1245568009 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shrugs
< 1245568018 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with all my chans and scrollbacks it's more like 30k for this one < 1245568714 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ du -h .xchat2/xchatlogs/ < 1245568714 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :515M < 1245571199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1245571200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1245571591 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-167-7.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1245571795 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245573439 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1245573445 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i accidentally made a file called * < 1245573450 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tried to delete it with "rm *" < 1245573483 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help < 1245573484 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1245573495 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do you keep doing that? < 1245573496 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, not referring to HackEgo :P < 1245573508 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To get the URL, I'm too lazy to just type it. < 1245573533 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo echo http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ > bin/url < 1245573534 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245573538 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod +x bin/url < 1245573538 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245573539 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1245573540 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245573551 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run cat bin/url 2>&1 < 1245573552 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1245573565 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run chmod a+x bin/url < 1245573565 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245573566 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1245573567 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245573569 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1245573574 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idonno :P < 1245573582 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run echo '#!/bin/bash' > bin/url; echo echo http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ >> bin/url < 1245573583 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1245573585 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`url < 1245573586 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1245573590 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs the shebang line < 1245573619 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1245573638 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that the situations I'm most likely to need the URL in are those where bin/url has disappeared :P < 1245573674 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1245573675 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote \ calc \ define \ esolang \ etymology \ google \ imdb \ minifind \ paste \ quote \ runfor \ tcc \ url \ wolfram < 1245574377 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fetch `echo hello` < 1245574377 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wget: unable to resolve host address ``echo hello`' < 1245574424 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert -2 < 1245574425 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1245574428 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1245574428 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin \ paste \ quotes \ tmpdir.17214 < 1245574559 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :warrigal/ihope: Vote YES! on Proposition 24! < 1245574612 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was supposed to install bison, flex and texinfo, but i seem to have made a mistake and it actually installs bison, yacc and texinfo. oh well) < 1245575379 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1245575743 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was talkin to warrigal (aka ihope). about rootnomic. < 1245575773 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You people and your craaaaaaaaazy nomics :P < 1245575780 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't gotten anybody to play my card-game nomic. < 1245576098 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@a-62.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1245576943 0 :Hiato!n=Hiato@dsl-245-14-154.telkomadsl.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1245577405 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-1-251.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245578159 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Relax, its only ONES and ZEROS!" < 1245579989 0 :Hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1245579989 0 :Corun!n=Corun@94-194-31-127.zone8.bethere.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1245581214 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1245582250 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245584075 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245587579 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1245588400 0 :mtd!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588400 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588400 0 :ineiros!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588401 0 :Dewi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588401 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588401 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588402 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588402 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588402 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588402 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588402 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588402 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1245588402 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net 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:CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Computer has gone to sleep" < 1245597306 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1245598218 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1245598496 0 :CESSMASTER!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1245599141 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-15-49.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245601636 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245602212 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-5.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1245603347 0 :FireyFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1245604781 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245606941 0 :Corun!n=Corun@cpc2-rdng21-2-0-cust403.15-3.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1245608320 0 :FireyFly!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :FireFly < 1245608489 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1245609170 0 :Corun!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1245609605 0 :asiekierk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone? < 1245609785 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1245609814 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1245609821 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE IS NO ONE. < 1245609837 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE. < 1245609895 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there is not even that one. How failurous. < 1245609940 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, the Internet service in this hotel is *dialup*, 33600 bps, and costs 100 Russian play-money units per hour. How last-millennium. < 1245610088 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where the fuck are y... Ah. < 1245610124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might I recommend going somewhere more modern, like, say, time travelling to the 90s? < 1245610168 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My first-choice for the hotel would've had a complimentary WLAN service, but (since it was closest to the conference place I'm here for) it had already been fully-booked by the time I got around making the reservation. < 1245610351 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 100 russian rubles in usd < 1245610352 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 Russian rubles = 3.21600 U.S. dollars < 1245610380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do believe this is the first case I've seen of Europe being *less* developed Internet-wise than the US. < 1245610391 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Russia doesn't count as Europe :P < 1245610394 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know of US hotels that don't have complimentary Wifi. < 1245610401 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Parts of it do. < 1245610452 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit expensive for 24/7 usage. Fortunately I can go home on Wednesday after I've done my presentation bit, so I won't have to stay here long. And the conference place probably is networked better. < 1245610458 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This part is Saint Petersburg. < 1245610483 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd certainly hope the conference is networked better. < 1245610512 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's an old palace. But one assumes they've brought some wlan access points at least. < 1245610547 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps do the DEFCON solution of having portable network racks trucked in. < 1245610551 0 :asiekierk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Well, Russia counts as Eastern Eurasia < 1245610577 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WAS MAKING A JOKE JEEZE < 1245610587 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :russia certainly counts as europe < 1245610590 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE HATE JOKES. < 1245610613 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, half of it does < 1245610649 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The half that has people, at least. < 1245610768 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1245610850 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY, I'm Siberian you jerk! :( < 1245610886 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, but... Montana has a higher population density. < 1245610897 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1245611018 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how do you like st petersburg? < 1245611140 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :According to whois, he's in Finland right now. < 1245611553 0 :asiekierk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://armorgames.com/play/2893/achievement-unlocked < 1245612048 0 :asiekierk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how's that game < 1245612052 0 :asiekierk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I'd SO like to learn Flash < 1245612068 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245612220 0 :asiekierk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any tutorials? < 1245612283 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any ideas for a language I could learn by writing a Scheme interpreter? < 1245612344 0 :saburo!n=y@dsdf-5d82c533.pool.einsundeins.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1245612675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Perhaps do the DEFCON solution of having portable network racks trucked in. <-- more info please < 1245612730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : According to whois, he's in Finland right now. <-- as far as I remember fizzie use a bouncer < 1245612753 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, common lisp? < 1245612797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, but why not write one in befunge :) < 1245612803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme in befunge would be rather fun < 1245612818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :full r5rs, it is a very short standard < 1245612843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that wouldn't be "learning" a language < 1245612847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but would be interesting anyway < 1245612954 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram GDP of Scotland / population of Germany < 1245612962 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GDP of Scotland population of Germany \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ Germany \ \ GDP \ \ Scotland, Connecticut Germany population \ \ city population \ \ Result: \ \ $68.24 million per year US dollars per year \ History: \ \ 2004 and 2007 estimates \ \ prune`result \ Currency conversions: \ \ JPY EUR GBP CNY CAD < 1245612983 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That seems wrong :P < 1245613031 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I was considering befunge but I figured I'd rather learn something new < 1245613043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, oh < 1245613074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`google gdp < 1245613075 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The gross domestic product (GDP) or gross domestic income (GDI), a basic measure of an economy's economic performance, is the market value of all final ... \ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product - [15]Cached - [16]Similar < 1245613078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245613102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same as Brutto Nationalprodukt then < 1245613105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245613107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is probably < 1245613113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bruttonationalprodukt < 1245613114 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one word < 1245613120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah clearly < 1245613129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUTTS < 1245613143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the abbrevation is even better < 1245613145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BNP < 1245613154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BruttoNationalProdukt < 1245613293 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brutal National Product < 1245613334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`revert 1 < 1245613335 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done. < 1245613346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`help revert < 1245613347 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Runs arbitrary code in GNU/Linux. Type "`", or "`run " for full shell commands. "`fetch " downloads files. Files saved to $PWD are persistent, and $PWD/bin is in $PATH. $PWD is a mercurial repository, "`revert " can be used to revert to a revision. See http://codu.org/projects/hackbot/fshg/ < 1245613350 0 :asiekierk!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1245613351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:28 GregorR: It's too bad that there's no universal standard of sound that's as intrinsically networkable as X11. < 1245613354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/dev/dsp+nfs < 1245613357 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Common Lisp is a bit meh < 1245613367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why did you revert < 1245613372 0 :saburo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1245613419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:45 fizzie: Incidentally, the Internet service in this hotel is *dialup*, 33600 bps, and costs 100 Russian play-money units per hour. How last-millennium. < 1245613421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use monopoly money < 1245613437 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: There only was 1 revision, so that did nothing :P < 1245613438 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm... I don't know what languages you already know < 1245613441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:53 pikhq: I do believe this is the first case I've seen of Europe being *less* developed Internet-wise than the US. < 1245613441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:53 GregorR: Russia doesn't count as Europe :P < 1245613443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what GregorR said < 1245613446 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: PulseAudio, ARTs, etc. It's too bad there's no universal standard of sound, though. < 1245613451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep getting pinged < 1245613457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jokes on you guys huh i can't see your messages < 1245613458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNTIL I FINISH < 1245613460 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOGREADING < 1245613461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!! < 1245613470 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: PING < 1245613472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:05 pikhq: According to whois, he's in Finland right now. < 1245613472 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Doesn't matter, just say whatever you come up with < 1245613475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's called a bouncer. < 1245613477 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe < 1245613479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Ping reply from ehird: 1.30 second(s) < 1245613480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay logreading over < 1245613482 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird is totally the kind of guy to have a logread script that PREVENTS him from reading new messages :P < 1245613484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to read the logs that appeared while logreading < 1245613485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, erlang < 1245613489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, TECO < 1245613491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:33 AnMaster: full r5rs, it is a very short standard < 1245613493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very difficult one < 1245613498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unwind-protect vs call-with-current-continuation < 1245613501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, but *short* still < 1245613503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not simple to implement at all < 1245613505 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, TECO < 1245613508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop pinging me faggot whoever you are < 1245613511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not simple true. BUT SHORT < 1245613515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:39 AnMaster: ehird, the abbrevation is even better < 1245613520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i was just saying butts because i arrived < 1245613526 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1245613526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:42 AnMaster: ehird, why did you revert < 1245613528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not! < 1245613531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:42 Deewiant: Common Lisp is a bit meh < 1245613531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :context? < 1245613532 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1245613532 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erlang and MLs are an idea but they're ugly < 1245613538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, READ SCROLLBACK! < 1245613539 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1245613548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, OCAML < 1245613549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:44 pikhq: ehird: PulseAudio, ARTs, etc. It's too bad there's no universal standard of sound, though. < 1245613550 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: few lines above your 19:33 < 1245613552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use OSS4! < 1245613559 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yeah, an ML < 1245613564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:44 GregorR: ehird is totally the kind of guy to have a logread script that PREVENTS him from reading new messages :P < 1245613566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's called OCD < 1245613569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I was agreeing with you yes < 1245613577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:45 AnMaster: ehird, not simple true. BUT SHORT < 1245613580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're completely wrong < 1245613581 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "OCD"? < 1245613582 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fear I'd just miss Haskell with MLs < 1245613592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, hm ok.... < 1245613595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes an awful lot of code and clever implementation to implement all of R5RS 100% correctly < 1245613615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, MegaZeux? Implementing a programming language in a game system is fun < 1245613617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and such implementations are very rare < 1245613632 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R5RS is sooooo last century < 1245613643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just found an old game of life implementation I made as a scenario for "blades of avernum" < 1245613656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :found it yesterday when I was getting nostalgic about my first generation ibook < 1245613670 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Something non-esoteric please :-) < 1245613686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the spec is short. compared to the C++ one for example < 1245613694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to the C one < 1245613711 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol c++ < 1245613721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes, R5RS' spec is concise. < 1245613728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, exactly my point < 1245613732 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The context is telling me a language to implement R5RS in < 1245613743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its implementation is neither concise, easy in any way, or short-time. < 1245613752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: oh. R5RS. < 1245613753 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ... that is what I said < 1245613763 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1245613778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Clearly you put all the content in the bits that weren't there, 'cause I sure didn't see that. < 1245613779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what about in scheme < 1245613783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1245613804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I said short. That means few pages. < 1245613805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1245613806 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(loop (print (eval (read)))) :-P < 1245613814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, great! < 1245613815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you referred to the implementation. < 1245613821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 19:49 ehird: Deewiant: oh. R5RS. < 1245613823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beat you to it. < 1245613828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I was serious. < 1245613829 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, from the context it was clear I didn't < 1245613838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to me. < 1245613848 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 19:33, a few lines up, my message. You fail at logreading. < 1245613860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does your mom < 1245613865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I wasn't serious because of above mentioned context. < 1245613884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:24 Deewiant: Any ideas for a language I could learn by writing a Scheme interpreter? < 1245613895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's a terribly bad way to learn a language... < 1245613913 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Task is set, now gimme a language < 1245613917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed. Until you came bursting in here, we had no problems with the discussion. < 1245613920 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245613928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, piet < 1245613933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Oh, stfu. < 1245613976 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Plof < 1245613977 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION invites everyone but ehird to #esoteric-no-ehird
< 1245614003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, pebble < 1245614032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Scheme interpreter in PEBBLE would be... Quite stunning. < 1245614034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, malbolge? < 1245614040 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009-06-21 21:47:50 ( Deewiant) AnMaster: Something non-esoteric please :-) < 1245614041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, why is that? < 1245614046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, you could do it, but... < 1245614054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, but what < 1245614058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, C? < 1245614060 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's like Brainfuck, but with variables and macros. < 1245614062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, bash! < 1245614068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, true < 1245614081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, those vars and macros would make it much simpler < 1245614090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, or zsh < 1245614092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you prefer < 1245614097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'd imagine Deewiant knows C. < 1245614103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true < 1245614119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yet you suggested r5rs. Even though he knows it < 1245614123 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Still, you'd have to implement a call stack in Brainfuck. < 1245614127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does your mom. < 1245614139 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C/sh are boring < 1245614141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I doubt she knows r5rs in fact. < 1245614148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Csh isn't boring. < 1245614148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO IT IN CSH! < 1245614149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, J < 1245614153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even better < 1245614160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :APL < 1245614167 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yes, it is. :-P < 1245614172 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or why not in APL? < 1245614172 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, no. Do csh in csh. < 1245614185 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The thing with langs like J and Erlang is that I don't think they're at all well suited to the task < 1245614202 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, it could be done, but I'd miss half the language. < 1245614236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, true. < 1245614269 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scala might be an option. < 1245614273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ARC!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111 < 1245614283 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Nemerle, in a similar vein. < 1245614303 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erlang would probably be decently suited to implementing a Lisp. < 1245614304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Prolog? < 1245614306 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, you'd miss the parallelism that is the *point* of Erlang. < 1245614310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's good at interpreters. At least, good as far as prolog goes. < 1245614314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, agreed < 1245614322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I wrote a lambda calculus in like 15 lines of Prolog. < 1245614326 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yes, as far as Prolog goes. :-P < 1245614334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Hey, it's not boring. < 1245614343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, it does have nice pattern matching too. < 1245614345 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolog is a bit too mindbending for me to try it like this < 1245614362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, but you end up using case more often than if... < 1245614366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in erlang that is) < 1245614366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: so you want something not boring that doesn't bend your mind. < 1245614373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurf durf I'm a contradictor < 1245614376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a bit unusual < 1245614386 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The context is a project for a Scheme course, so I'd rather it not be something that takes a year to figure out. < 1245614405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1245614408 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tcl it is. < 1245614413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, you're not writing the whole of R5RS in that time. < 1245614414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, &%¤(!/&# < 1245614426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: When I wrote that 15-line LC in Prolog, for the record, I barely knew it. < 1245614434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I basically knew the basics and nothing else. < 1245614457 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I have experience in trying to figure out Prolog and I'm not well disposed toward it. < 1245614480 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I give up, you're impossible :P < 1245614494 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, for not accepting Csh and Prolog? :-D < 1245614500 0 :bsmntbombdood_!n=gavin@97-118-119-2.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245614501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shush, you. < 1245614502 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245614505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your constraints are impossible. < 1245614526 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: proc lambda {arglist func} {list apply [list $arglist $func]} < 1245614527 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: (not-boring) `intersect` (not-prolog) = {}? < 1245614543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: What about all the ones I didn't state because they don't fit your contradictory requirements? < 1245614545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm talking about those. < 1245614551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, examples? < 1245614589 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm not as well-versed in telepathy as you seem to think < 1245614607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I told you that I give up trying to come up with ideas. < 1245614617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously I don't stream my thoughts to IRC in real-time. < 1245614633 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not so obvious to me < 1245614645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mom. < 1245614650 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See? < 1245614652 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, I don't see my requirements as contradictory < 1245614670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I think ehird said "your mom" was one of those languages he skipped < 1245614672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right? < 1245614678 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that could be < 1245614689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I bet it would be an esolang then < 1245614694 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fine with mindbending... just not Prolog. :-P < 1245614739 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, APL then < 1245614758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if APL isn't mindbending, then I don't know what is < 1245614764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oooh! Ooooh! < 1245614765 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth! < 1245614776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, good idea! < 1245614784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great idea even < 1245614798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ehird thinks forth is boring I guess < 1245614799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth sucks at strings. < 1245614805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, really sucks < 1245614811 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, Forth's default wordset sucks at strings. < 1245614812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You Cers are positively spoilt in comparison. < 1245614814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively he think it is prolog < 1245614818 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was considering a highish-level Forth like Factor. < 1245614821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's called ANS Forth, bitch. < 1245614823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: That's not a forth. < 1245614830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a concatenative language. < 1245614833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is barely anything like forth. < 1245614841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : You Cers are positively spoilt in comparison. <-- "You Cers"? < 1245614847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You C-ers. < 1245614848 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C'ers < 1245614857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That is not a valid use of the apostrophe, dammit. < 1245614881 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1245614882 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, fine. < 1245614885 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: "A Forth" ~= "a concatenative language" < 1245614886 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cërs < 1245614892 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1245614895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Your dictionary needs replacing. < 1245614895 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that there's so few, anyway. < 1245614900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: forth a-real-proper-forth ; < 1245614927 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are proper concatenative langs anyway < 1245614929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, smalltalk? < 1245614930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A Forth", in the Forth community, means a Forth system. Srsly, saying anything else is confusing. < 1245614940 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, in a somewhat usable state etc < 1245614952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Forth, Factor, Cat. < 1245614955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cat is pretty lame. < 1245614959 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1245615149 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yeah, so Forth, Factor. :-P < 1245615168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth has an awful lot of variation; Factor has nil because it only has one canonical implementation and gigantic library set. < 1245615176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's more like Forth*300, Factor. < 1245615248 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still Forth, Factor. < 1245615323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: No, because "Forth < 1245615327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" is a class of systems. < 1245615333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, yes, ANS Forth; doesn't change reality. < 1245615357 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't that like saying that there are 100 Cs < 1245615417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Not really. < 1245615427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forth systems have a lot more of a distinctive character to them. < 1245615428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whatever < 1245615432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just semantics < 1245615460 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I guess I got nothing useful out of this and've still got only Scala and Nemerle. < 1245615469 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, and factor < 1245615489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Nemerle, to me, looks just like C# with another syntax. < 1245615497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and macros. < 1245615503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snooze* < 1245615510 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Factor and Smalltalk are a bit meh, I don't like their environments < 1245615513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah C#'s preprocessor sucks < 1245615514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and the macro definition syntax is ugly as fuck. < 1245615520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm not talking about C#. < 1245615522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has #define and #if basically, that's all iirc < 1245615524 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Scala, to me, looks just like Java with another syntax. *snooze* < 1245615527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but I am < 1245615556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Well, it adds quite a bit more functional stuff to that, but when you come down to it, you're right. It was not as unicorns-shitting-ponies-and-rainbows as it seemed when I first started using it. < 1245615564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the toolchain is full of Java bullshit. < 1245615584 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No unicorns? O RLY? < 1245615594 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Nemerle is trying to be functional too. < 1245615596 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1245615598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I was devastated. < 1245615602 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, "May contain traces of unicorn" < 1245615603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But whatever, both aren't all that interesting,. < 1245615610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely not paradigm-changers. < 1245615632 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Io? < 1245615637 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or Javascript < 1245615646 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or any other good prototyped-OO < 1245615685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Io's basic idea is cute, but it's let down by (a) the syntax isn't very nice when you actually get to coding, (b) the documentation is truly dreadful—don't underestimate this. Most things are just completely undocumented, and finally (c) you get to write everything yourself because nobody uses the damn thing. < 1245615686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I think the only esolang that could manage this sanely would actually be befunge < 1245615696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Javascript is, ehh, okay. < 1245615714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the browser apis suck ass < 1245615719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there aren't really any CLI apis < 1245615726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you use Rhino, and then you get to deal with javashit < 1245615736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Javascript is, ehh, okay. <-- nice summary < 1245615738 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very nice summary < 1245615741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also the syntax tries to be like C too much. < 1245615757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if JS had a bit more unique syntax and emphasized its unconventional features some more, it would be better. < 1245615766 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm not trying for an esolang here :-P < 1245615773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what unconventional features < 1245615793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Right proper full closures. Prototype-based OO. + some others. < 1245615801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1245615808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has generators too. < 1245615811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And stuff. < 1245615817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH SHIT I STARTED A SENTENCE WITH AND < 1245615820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*XXX And < 1245615822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*XXX and < 1245615855 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haha. < 1245615858 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that was fun. < 1245615887 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why can i only tar at like 30 mb/s? < 1245615890 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :off of this ssd < 1245615901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: writing to what? < 1245615905 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: nothing < 1245615916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: that's really odd. what speed do you get on the mechanical disk? < 1245615926 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1245615928 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarring, about the same < 1245615935 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dd'ing, like 70 < 1245615960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: possibly a bottleneck in tar... but what SSDs are not very good at is large sequential writes, not reads < 1245615966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i really don't know < 1245615969 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: No other decent such languages? < 1245615970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: try lzma(1) or sth < 1245615980 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf does compression have to do with anything < 1245615982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Ehh. < 1245615992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: lzma can pack multiple files, can't it? < 1245615994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget. < 1245616007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: use a zipper then; I'm just trying to think of a non-tar file-buncher < 1245616011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to see where the bottleneck is < 1245616036 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: So I guess not :-P < 1245616078 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i had a good idea the other day < 1245616087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: i have them quite often. what is it < 1245616092 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want my drives encrypted < 1245616102 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a single core of this processor can only get about 100mb/s < 1245616102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: Don't use truecrypt. < 1245616109 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using dm-crypt < 1245616121 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: Well, don't encrypt the OS drive; that's just ridiculous. < 1245616126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Encrypt /etc, /var and /home? < 1245616143 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i'm going to split the ssd into two partitions, encrypt each one, then raid0 them < 1245616155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: While you're at it, set the alignment stuff. < 1245616157 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i've already got everything but /boot encrypted < 1245616162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I think your random-access performance will suffer. < 1245616231 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, I guess I could just do it in Haskell. < 1245616232 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1245616247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : But I think your random-access performance will suffer. < 1245616247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Meh, I guess I could just do it in Haskell. < 1245616247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : how? < 1245616248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1245616251 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(out of context) < 1245616265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That... doesn't make any sense. < 1245616268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/02/20/aligning-filesystems-to-an-ssds-erase-block-size/ < 1245616275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed it does. < 1245616305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: Oh, and SECURE ERASE before doing it to clean up the dead blocks. < 1245616308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase ) < 1245616309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, s/haskell/the ultimate tool to solve everything/ < 1245616311 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is < 1245616320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sensible that is) < 1245616323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1245616329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sensemaking? < 1245616346 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i mean, how would random access performance suffer < 1245616366 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :challenge: turn "make sense" into something that could go in the place of X in: "foo is X" < 1245616374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: well, I'm not sure how whole-fs encryption actually works < 1245616388 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's just a block-to-block mapping < 1245616388 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, maybe Clean < 1245616397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: then it should work. but why encrypt your OS? < 1245616409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Clean = Haskell - monads + uniqueness types. < 1245616417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, uh, your IO code would look a little different. < 1245616418 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I am aware. < 1245616418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoop big. < 1245616419 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why not? < 1245616426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: >-< < 1245616433 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Whoop bigger has yet to be encountered. < 1245616452 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"The only thing I know is that I know nothing" < 1245616453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Sure it has, you just dismiss it as whoop too big :P < 1245616454 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess learning some of the freakier GHC extensions counts as some whoop. < 1245616464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what does it use in place of monads? < 1245616473 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yeah, I have a whoop limit for this task. < 1245616491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Uniqueness types. < 1245616497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They're rubbish) < 1245616499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googles
< 1245616507 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rubbish? :-P < 1245616514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: they're useful for... side effects. < 1245616520 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :contrast with monads, which are useful for a shit ton of stuff. < 1245616579 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh. < 1245616582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, and in Clean, [x:xs] is Haskell's (x:xs), instead of Haskell's [(x:xs)]. And "a -> b -> c" is "a b -> c", which is stupid. < 1245616594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And "f . g" is "f o g" and "-5" is "~5" because ARBITRARY RUBBISH CHANGES <3 < 1245616600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : contrast with monads, which are useful for a shit ton of stuff. <-- shit ton, about 1.27 metric tons < 1245616606 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~5 makes sense, at least < 1245616617 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you don't need subtract < 1245616617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 27.8 actually < 1245616620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1] < 1245616622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shit-ton < 1245616631 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*blink* < 1245616635 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::_D < 1245616640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::~D < 1245616641 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are three kinds of people: Those who don't get this joke, those who think it's not funny, and those who both understand binary and enjoy bad meta-humor. < 1245616656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I fit into the 4th category. < 1245616671 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the 10th < 1245616684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: ...in base 4. < 1245616688 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1245616690 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.soekris.com/vpn1401.htm < 1245616691 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god < 1245616700 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :compression at at 420 mbits < 1245616706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soe, Kris, what are you doing tonight? < 1245616707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, I'm also in the 10th category. < 1245616710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not same 10th < 1245616720 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2-bit gray code 10) < 1245616722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: that's as fast as you can get? < 1245616726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd expect a lot faster < 1245616740 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, bits not bytes < 1245616743 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's actually not that fast < 1245616744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1245616748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just 52.5MB/sec < 1245616750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is kind of lame. < 1245616761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd totally think you can get 1GB/sec < 1245616768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :computers be fast < 1245616780 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a single core of this i7 can gzip at 20 mbytes < 1245616786 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1245616787 0 :MigoMipo_!n=MigoMipo@84-217-15-49.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1245616802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat hits about 60 mbytes. < 1245616802 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and can encrypt at 100 < 1245616803 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245616806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: use all of them then. :D < 1245616818 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and encrypts at 100 < 1245616819 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: gzip is not highly parallel. < 1245616820 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that card sucks < 1245616822 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nevermind < 1245616842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so make it >:) < 1245616845 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bzip22 is, but no implementations of it are threaded. < 1245616851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/22/2/ < 1245616857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzip TWENTY TWO < 1245616860 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is only $75 though < 1245616873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eleven times better < 1245616873 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there a parallel implementations of gzip that split the file into big blocks < 1245616876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: buy 75 of them < 1245616880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1245616888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a parallel bzip2 < 1245616890 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just FYI < 1245616895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might want to check it out < 1245616903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://compression.ca/pbzip2/ < 1245616916 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but bzip2 you can paralellize the bwt and get exactly the same output as the sequential version < 1245616925 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, whoo. < 1245616950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: run pbzip2 and measure that shit < 1245616958 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=user@79.174.35.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1245616959 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why < 1245616966 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bzip2 is slow as hell < 1245616981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1245616990 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram distance to uranus < 1245616996 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, it's in apt < 1245617002 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :distance to uranus \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ Uranus \ Current result: \ \ distance from Earth \ \ 20.03 AU astronomical units \ Value: \ \ 2.996 109 km kilometers \ Comparisons as distance: \ \ 0.2 \ \ 15 \ \ August 2006 distance of Voyager 1 from the sun 1.496 1010 km \ \ Corresponding quantity: \ \ Solar < 1245617006 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram distance to your anus < 1245617011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: 4-8x speedup (depending on whether it's conditioned on cores or threads) is pretty good < 1245617012 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$Failed \ \  < 1245617016 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awwww < 1245617061 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, why the  < 1245617067 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 33 mbytes < 1245617068 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit sucks < 1245617074 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Idonno, something about pdftotext < 1245617085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: did you set liek 8 threads? < 1245617089 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1245617092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: try 4? < 1245617099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hyperthreading is prolly killing it :P < 1245617211 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the same < 1245617240 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so hyperthreading kills it then < 1245617244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_, what about 1 core < 1245617250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to compare with < 1245617253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since bzip2 is slow < 1245617280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3156628 ← my grasp of english is waning < 1245617294 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pthree.org/2008/12/14/lzma/ So dumb. < 1245617308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dumb like YOUR MOM and that rhymes. < 1245617312 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahahaha < 1245617314 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Let's compare compression algorithms using contrived cases that have nothing to do with how good the algorithm is!" < 1245617323 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pigz, on the other hand, is going at 125 mbytes < 1245617325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that's lollerific < 1245617326 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fucking awsome < 1245617341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: now get it to 1000000 jiggabytes. < 1245617373 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He tests compression by compressing /etc (valid comparison), then a bunch of JPEGs and AVIs (... Great. All that can be compressed is metadata), then 512M of 0s. < 1245617373 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: compressing a tarball is contrived? < 1245617387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"English, motherzorker! Do you doatch it?" < 1245617387 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: Of JPEGs and AVIs. < 1245617389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3156628 ← my grasp of english is waning <-- I don't understand it either < 1245617406 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Keep reading. It's like taking drugs without the drugs! < 1245617406 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: of /etc < 1245617408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tl;dr < 1245617415 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I invoke tl;dr < 1245617415 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1245617443 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the only valid test. < 1245617447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other two are dumb. < 1245617459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, I hate people who say "tl;dr". Because your idiotic soundbites and bits of compacted media and entertainment that you love so much has made your brain incapable to read anything more than a paragraph or two lest your now severe ADHD kick in. < 1245617464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get off the fucking internet. < 1245617473 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And from those two, he concludes that LZMA sucks. Even though he got really good results from the /etc tarball. < 1245617512 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1245617519 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pigz gets a lot from hyperthreading < 1245617534 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 threads = 75 mbytes/s < 1245617541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: that's 4 threads WITH HYPERTHREADING < 1245617545 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 threads = 115 < 1245617545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can only disable hyperthreading with a reboot < 1245617547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I learnt saying "tl;dr" from you in fact. < 1245617564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: if you disabled hyperthreading and used 4, it may do better < 1245617568 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doubt it < 1245617575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :worth a try. < 1245617604 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on how cache-bound pigz is, and how much cash thrashing results from what else you're doing. < 1245617634 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Read starting from "Q1:" < 1245617650 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: more than a paragraph;didn't read < 1245617667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, AH! < 1245617752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mentioned last time that we can actually map directions sensibly to Gostakian. The directions are "hoff", "jirf", "kirf", and "loff", or, for short, HJKL. < 1245617752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These should be familiar to many of you. < 1245617757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck yeah vihack. < 1245617792 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1245617798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NUMPAD! < 1245617810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Filthy emacser. < 1245617819 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, pigz is awesome < 1245617823 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer Emacs. C-A-M-S-p, anyone? < 1245617832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: C-R-A-M-P-s < 1245617859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, S? < 1245617864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :super? < 1245617872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Uncultured swine! < 1245617874 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc emacs doesn't use the Super key < 1245617879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :........ < 1245617885 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's odd < 1245617892 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :linux appears to be doing some poor scheduling < 1245617903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..? < 1245617906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: nice(1) that bitch < 1245617918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not good enough... < 1245617923 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It *can*. < 1245617923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ionice FTW < 1245617929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......... < 1245617930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... < 1245617935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, fuck it, you're an idiot < 1245617945 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i mean, with 9 compute-bound threads running, none of the processors goes above 85% or so < 1245617952 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ionice -c 1... REAL TIME IO PRIORITY! < 1245617963 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FOR WHEN IT REALLY MATTERS(TM) < 1245617965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: that's hyperthreading < 1245617967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm pretty sure < 1245617972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard something like that about it < 1245617972 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: Yes. That's *hard drive* overhead. < 1245617978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: SSD. < 1245618001 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm using 1 gigabyte from my ssd to test it < 1245618004 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: ... Is still slower than RAM, which is still slower than cache. < 1245618015 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fine, i'll put it on a ram disk < 1245618020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: try it without multithreading!!!!!!!!!111 < 1245618024 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1245618027 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: also, use an L1 disk. < 1245618027 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't want to reboot < 1245618032 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol ok < 1245618039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can you do that? you should be able to do that. < 1245618045 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you hsouldn't < 1245618047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIRTY TWO KILOBYTES < 1245618067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: L3 then, how much of that 8MB are you actually using, PUNK :P < 1245618082 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cache should be managed automatically < 1245618088 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You can turn L1 into RAM. ... This only works in Ring 0, and is only used in BIOS code. < 1245618096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: YES BUT SPEED < 1245618102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Top Gear's Stig 'to be unveiled']] < 1245618103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT NO. < 1245618104 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the obvious reason that there's no RAM until the BIOS turns it on.) < 1245618118 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: with good caching algorithms in the cpu, speed will be the same < 1245618125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: meh. < 1245618125 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read ahead, etc < 1245618289 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gzip = 41 seconds < 1245618295 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pigz = 8 < 1245618300 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 times speedup! < 1245618352 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird: You can turn L1 into RAM. ... This only works in Ring 0, and is only used in BIOS code. <-- it is? < 1245618367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I didn't know it was possible < 1245618372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nooo. They just put everything in the registers. < 1245618375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how is it done? < 1245618376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly. < 1245618393 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I thought it used system ram... < 1245618402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can it do that when it hasn't initialized it? < 1245618414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, something on chipset then! < 1245618531 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1245618545 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how is it done? < 1245618551 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what instructions < 1245618563 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1245618748 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall how. < 1245618763 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See Coreboot, < 1245618837 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@e-98.vc-graz.ac.at JOIN :#esoteric < 1245619402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rabbits, boxes. < 1245619420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iron a person! a person! < 1245619462 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a whom! < 1245619476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Gnote is[...]a fork of Tomboy, doing a line-by-line translation of the source into C++." < 1245619478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now THAT'S stupid. < 1245619503 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right, ehird detests C++ < 1245619511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: that wasn't what I meant < 1245619520 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Delicious, delicious C++ < 1245619531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I was referring to the idiocy of doing such manual compilation because of a misguided hate of Mono. < 1245619550 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird eats C++ for breakfast < 1245619559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gracenotes: Dude, that's like eating shit. < 1245619559 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and vomits it for lunch < 1245619560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of. < 1245619567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then vomiting the shit. < 1245619731 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pigz is the shit < 1245619814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: No; we're talking about C++. < 1245620003 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why would you want to do that < 1245620029 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1245620089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: I was likening it to eating then vomiting excrement. < 1245620094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI OERJAN < 1245620103 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1245620104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're talking about coprophilia. < 1245620109 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the disk image isn't compressing very well < 1245620111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not, however, copprophilia. < 1245620117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: maybe it already is < 1245620158 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HI EHIRD < 1245620192 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should have known it was a bad idea to log on... < 1245620270 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is weird < 1245620285 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm only using like 10 gigabytes, but the compressed image is already 40 < 1245620663 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`fortune < 1245620664 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems a computer engineer, a systems analyst, and a programmer were \ driving down a mountain when the brakes gave out. They screamed down the \ mountain, gaining speed, but finally managed to grind to a halt, more by \ luck than anything else, just inches from a thousand foot drop to jagged \ rocks. They all got out of the < 1245620673 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid long fortunes :P < 1245621036 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1245621166 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : same as Brutto Nationalprodukt then <-- actually there is a difference between gross domestic product and gross national product < 1245621201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh? < 1245621203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1245621216 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC swedish BNP is equal to english GDP < 1245621220 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I may be wrong < 1245621221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what would "gross domestic product" be in Swedish then < 1245621315 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that might be "bruttonationalprodukt", confusing enough < 1245621361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, err are you saying both are the same? < 1245621380 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i am saying that the interwiki links are that way < 1245621410 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the english term "gross national product" may refer to an older obsolete variant, i think < 1245621421 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_domestic_product#GDP_vs_GNP < 1245621450 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As well as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNP#GDP_vs._GNP < 1245621503 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm interesting there _are_ wikilinks from both the english articles to bruttonationalprodukt < 1245621516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes that happens, it is broken though < 1245621529 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, confuses the bots < 1245621557 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the wikibot I used tends to dump a dot file showing the links when that happens < 1245621573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is dot as in graphviz < 1245621598 0 :MigoMipo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1245621664 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and interestingly, it links to the norwegian "bruttonasjonalprodukt", which links back to the entirely different http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measures_of_national_income_and_output < 1245621712 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait < 1245621716 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the same article < 1245621803 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :conclusion, this is a total mess < 1245621855 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS... IS... Mess! < 1245622117 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS? IS? MIS-USING? A? MEME? < 1245622375 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Deewiant: Forth, Factor, Cat. <-- Postscript! < 1245622840 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:36:34 And "f . g" is "f o g" and "-5" is "~5" because ARBITRARY RUBBISH CHANGES <3 < 1245622866 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think clean may actually be older than haskell, so it's not quite its fault < 1245622902 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell was made to consolidate a lot of slightly incompatible predecessors < 1245623690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : THIS? IS? MIS-USING? A? MEME? <--- what meme? < 1245623712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1245623721 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what meme lead to those question markls < 1245623723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :marks* < 1245623730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do know the sparta meme of course < 1245623737 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1245623743 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would never have guessed < 1245623756 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i mean that entirely literally < 1245623757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, guessed what < 1245623768 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err ok < 1245623769 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that you knew the sparta meme until you sid so < 1245623772 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*said < 1245623800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you thought I didn't? < 1245623835 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you were seeming to provide proof that you didn't < 1245623848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I wondered what meme the ? one was < 1245623888 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you seem to have a lack of meta-joke logic :D < 1245623898 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, very true < 1245623973 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway hint: the ?'s _are_ the misuse < 1245624035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: incidentally, < 1245624036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clean is available for Microsoft Windows. It is also available with limited input/output capabilities and without the "Dynamics" feature for Apple Macintosh, Solaris and Linux. < 1245624038 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well apart from the sparta meme being so tired that almost any use is a misuse these days :) < 1245624140 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ever seen the OS 9 option for NTP syncing the clock? < 1245624150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is very strange < 1245624151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I really don't care < 1245624152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1245624194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Here's how it works in OS X!!!111cos(0): < 1245624197 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://imgur.com/T34f6.png < 1245624217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, (*) Manually, ( ) Every [integer] [hour/day/week/month] ( ) Automatically when the computer clock shows a different value than the time server < 1245624223 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what the third one actually means
< 1245624241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's weird-ass. < 1245624244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ntp should sync like every second :-P < 1245624251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: but remember, dialup < 1245624258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :working on a book in Word... < 1245624261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tap tap tap tap tap < 1245624265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRRRRRRRRRRRRRING! BA-DA-BA-DA < 1245624273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god, it's time for the minute's NTP update. < 1245624276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR < 1245624277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually no... not every second. Those time server owners would be furious < 1245624281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Connected!* < 1245624285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Disconnected!* < 1245624288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Thank god that's over." < 1245624293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solution: Do it less often! < 1245624312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there any ntp servers hooked up directly to an atomic clock? < 1245624343 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, < 1245624344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ntpdc -c peers < 1245624344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : remote local st poll reach delay offset disp < 1245624344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :======================================================================= < 1245624344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Time4.Stupi.SE 192.168.0.64 1 1024 377 0.02808 -0.002401 0.12183 < 1245624344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=timehost.lysato 192.168.0.64 1 1024 377 0.03018 -0.003012 0.12183 < 1245624345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=ntp1.playstar.s 192.168.0.64 2 1024 377 0.02940 -0.003424 0.13672 < 1245624347 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=pallid.bsnet.se 192.168.0.64 2 1024 377 0.03770 -0.002706 0.12173 < 1245624349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :example ^ < 1245624355 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: and? < 1245624379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it will next poll in 1024 seconds there < 1245624393 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err wait < 1245624400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is every 1024d second < 1245624411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# ntpq -c peers < 1245624411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter < 1245624411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :============================================================================== < 1245624411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+timehost.lysato .GPS. 1 u 477 1024 377 30.186 -3.012 0.779 < 1245624412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1245624419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in 477 seconds for that one < 1245624427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was using the wrong command < 1245624451 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: uh, duh < 1245624461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: i mean -directly- < 1245624463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as for atomic clocks, yes < 1245624473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, though that one was hooked up to a gps < 1245624483 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: a gps is directly < 1245624488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is what the refid column mean < 1245624488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fagt < 1245624491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Time4.Stupi.SE .PPS. 1 u 542 1024 377 28.083 -2.401 1.865 < 1245624496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what PPS means there < 1245624504 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pulse per second < 1245624512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_, how is that a refid < 1245624685 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1245625251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:59 gwern is surprised x11 is so old. I really had thought it was written shortly before xmonad < 1245625254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONTEXT IS FOR FOOS < 1245625321 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now if xmonad had been written shortly after x11, the world could have been programming in haskell (or its successor) now... < 1245625370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I mad that I like ocaml for some things? < 1245625383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for instance, writing a compiler < 1245625448 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not for that reason < 1245625451 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ducks
< 1245625487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurf hurf < 1245625533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22:59 gwern: '97, so x11 is older than edison < 1245625536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also out of context! < 1245625555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :edison stole the backlight from tesla!! < 1245626290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of ocaml < 1245626296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION watches GODI compile ocaml and shit
< 1245626307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its shit is like unto shit. < 1245626404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hurf hurf <-- you started saying this recently iirc. Is it some sort of new meme? < 1245626408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or old meme? < 1245626417 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird vomits a lot. < 1245626423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well 'hurf durf' is an ancient metafilter meme, but I just had occasion to use it and I liked it. < 1245626431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah ok. < 1245626432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: or that. < 1245626536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, GODI is actually working this time < 1245626537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exciting < 1245626606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: AnMaster just ruined the appeal of #esoteric-no-ehird. < 1245626613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it actually has a lesser percentage of ehird than here. < 1245626621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's do a hostile takeover. < 1245626633 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does a hostile makeover instead.
< 1245626635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, the channel name is wrong. < 1245626646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric-without-ehird, everyone! < 1245626663 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does a hostile bakeover
< 1245626672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Maaaaaan. < 1245626673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Far ouuuuuuuuuuut. < 1245626677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Get it? Baked?) < 1245626693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You don't have to leave. You're allowed. < 1245626700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but you aren't < 1245626709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet you were there < 1245626709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know. I'm on the lookout for ehird. < 1245626718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't worry; if I find him I will bring justice against him < 1245626718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you are ehird... < 1245626719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245626724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Of course. < 1245626731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stand in firm disagreement with everything I stand for. < 1245626738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I will set an example to myself. < 1245626740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that defines you pretty well < 1245626749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" I stand in firm disagreement with everything I stand for." < 1245626750 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is < 1245626754 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have an express no-tolerance policy on ehird. < 1245626766 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer #esoteric-but-only-GregorR < 1245626785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Invite me! < 1245626802 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT WOULDN'T BE ONLY GREGORR THEN NOW WOULD IT < 1245626839 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* AnMaster sets modes [#esoteric-but-only-ehird +i] < 1245626840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1245626850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:~/Downloads/godi-rocketboost-20080630] % ocaml < 1245626850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Objective Caml version 3.10.2 < 1245626851 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# 2+2 ;; < 1245626853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- : int = 4 < 1245626855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY < 1245626858 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* AnMaster has changed the topic to: The channel name is a lie < 1245626863 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh caml my caml! < 1245626870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Try "The channel topic is a lie" < 1245626872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: hawt < 1245626892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION ocamls GregorR's caml
< 1245627160 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good lord < 1245627165 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdiff is using 1.2 g of ram < 1245627177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's your mom < 1245627205 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that algorithm was light on memory < 1245627306 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1245627335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh, it broked < 1245627337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need ocaml 3.11 < 1245627340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rebootstraps
< 1245627708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm starting a new movement < 1245627716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the people for the replacement of parenthicals with whitespace < 1245627740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1+2 / 4 * 3 * 7 < 1245627740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1245627748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((1+2)/(4*3))*7 < 1245627808 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1245627819 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not go for polish notation? < 1245627875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because your butt. < 1245627899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN FLYYYYYYYYYYYY < 1245627959 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats ehird -----###
< 1245627968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: PETA!!!! < 1245627975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You're killing air kittens. < 1245627982 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PETZA < 1245628000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People for the ethical treatment of anuses < 1245628009 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people for the ethical treatment of zombie animals? < 1245628024 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People for the ethical treatment of zombie anuses? < 1245628046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hot. < 1245628049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: < 1245628118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:~] % ocaml < 1245628119 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Objective Caml version 3.11.1 < 1245628120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# 2+2;; < 1245628122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- : int = 4 < 1245628124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCORE < 1245628329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone want some freeze dried ice cream < 1245628334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(seriously, it exists) < 1245628339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh. Sure. < 1245628342 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really bad. < 1245628353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh like the stuff they eat in space. < 1245628354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, you tried it? < 1245628356 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1245628362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I imagine that's awful < 1245628365 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sell it in all the science museums in the US. < 1245628372 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the gift shops) < 1245628378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes, it says "austronaut food" on it. I haven't opened it yet < 1245628389 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Feel free :P < 1245628389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeze-dried_ice_cream even astronauts didn't like it < 1245628391 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's ... interesting. < 1245628392 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but thought, cheap enough to try. Sold to tourists < 1245628434 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not /terrible/, it mostly has texture issues. < 1245628455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1245628468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought it was worth trying at least. only 30 SEK < 1245628541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: JUST EAT IT! < 1245628549 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 30 sek in usd < 1245628550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I will some day < 1245628550 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 Swedish kronor = 3.79833 U.S. dollars < 1245628552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not today < 1245628557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: NO NOW WE CAN'T WAIT DAMMIT < 1245628561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:| < 1245628566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, some day < 1245628567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You got us all excited. < 1245628575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will take a photo of it too < 1245628581 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too dark for that now < 1245628599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and flash doesn't result in nice soft shadows < 1245628611 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural light photography ftw! < 1245628673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Freeze-dried ice cream is ubiquitous in science museum gift shops, sometimes accompanied by other freeze-dried foods such as ice-cream sandwiches, various sliced fruits, and even pizza." < 1245628675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1245628677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's where I got it < 1245628689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually not exactly < 1245628699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rocket launch facility gift shop < 1245628701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Esrange)