< 1246406468 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Merry july everybody < 1246406497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh you're right. < 1246406516 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, just because you're GMT < 1246406532 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been in july for a while now < 1246406547 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GMT aka UTC? :P < 1246406553 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNIVERSAL JULY BITCH < 1246406577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNIVERSAL JULY! It's July EVERYWHERE IN THE UNIVERSE! < 1246406583 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correct < 1246406688 0 :game16!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving." < 1246406711 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246406764 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1246406950 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1246407654 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246407976 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246408347 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I tried switching back to KDE for a bit... < 1246408366 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And nearly vomited. So slow... < 1246408396 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :baaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrf < 1246408628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ...Your computer sucks. < 1246408630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:32:08 FYI #proglangdesign #ltu < 1246408631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1246408643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at first channel < 1246408645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laaaaaaaaaaame. < 1246408667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at other channel < 1246408669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost identicaaaaaaaal. < 1246408681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:56:12 we had a moon person in here a while ago < 1246408681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10:56:18 at least, someone who thought they were < 1246408686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for values of a while = two days ago, iirc < 1246408883 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:52:47 C is awful. Except for all the other systems programming languages out there. :P < 1246408884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rly < 1246408885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HASKELL < 1246408896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:53:31 Zuu! < 1246408896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:53:34 Wtf are you doing here :-P < 1246408899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh do you know who he is? < 1246408900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is he? < 1246408954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh he's from #d < 1246408983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:55:04 take haskell, i'm sure it's great 12:55:11 if you like to masturbate to language design < 1246408986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION kicks zid to death. < 1246408992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:55:28 but is it.. useful? < 1246408998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION mangles zid's brain to information-theoretic death. < 1246409009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No revival for you, bitch! < 1246409300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:55:52 I've never seen anything written in haskhell, just people teling me how awesome something would be when written in haskell < 1246409305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was "haskhell" intentional? < 1246409313 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zid is in #ltu? < 1246409370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#ltu: WE'RE TOO EDGY FOR JUST A WEBLOG < 1246409381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO ABBREVIATIONS RULE < 1246409476 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION needs a good GUI environment. < 1246409499 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just nuke X from orbit. < 1246409505 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could tolerate that. < 1246409506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:58:05 Zuu: Go to #c++. < 1246409512 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me me me me! < 1246409514 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but #c++ has goedi! < 1246409517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's written in Haskell! < 1246409519 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh noes, not C++ < 1246409534 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But geordi is poo :< < 1246409542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Step 1. Get OS X's GUI source leaked. Step 2. Spend hours porting to Linux. < 1246409544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 3. Get sued < 1246409552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 4. I AM IN A JAIL CELL CALLED "HAMLET" < 1246409556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WASHING NASAL DEMONS < 1246409557 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if ehird is a bottie < 1246409570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: Nay! I am but a. < 1246409584 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh ? < 1246409605 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cuddles ehird ^^ < 1246409614 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Not good enough. < 1246409623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: Forsooth! Make tenners to be like a flower; but no? < 1246409628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Use Plan 9 < 1246409628 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm starting to think current GUI metaphors are t3h suck. < 1246409635 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tempting. < 1246409643 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe just Plan 9 from Userspace. < 1246409645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, they are; but there's nothing above concept-stage in anything else. < 1246409646 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is that an advanced way to ask if i'll marry you? < 1246409653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X at least makes using the current rubbish model OK < 1246409661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: No; 'tis but a languishing swamp demon. < 1246409676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Naw, not userspace. You need the ubiquitous files and toolset to take advantage of p9's ui. < 1246409690 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a hard time interpreting ehird's eso-english < 1246409694 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About the only alternative that's well-developed is tiling window managers. ... And those are niche at best. < 1246409706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also they're not very ergonomic. < 1246409725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: But flies are like a sun, and every solar system calls their star sun, just like every base calls theirs 10, because you can fly a lot, see? < 1246409749 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wth... < 1246409768 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION steals all ehird's poems and eats them :> < 1246409781 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thar! < 1246409790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: Eating disallowed; a cake perhaps barred from judging murder in case of a fire/ < 1246409792 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough of the nonsense :) < 1246409835 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My brain gets overloaded with all this weird sentence compositions < 1246409842 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*these < 1246409874 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is allergic to incomprehensible stuff < 1246409935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: Sentences mutate, morphed gluttery flobs in your gut. Only then may the window look at itself, but you know all about 'pataphysics, so essentially it's combinatorics, a bun, a death, and two and a half pennies for dinner. < 1246409972 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION pat pats ehird :) < 1246410014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: But what most people don't realise is that Cuil is a legitimate search engine of panties. < 1246410043 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :While that does sound slightly interresting, i wonder if it means the same to you as it does to me < 1246410128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: Questions are a folly of multitude; mayhaps if the hunter-gatherers were astronauts instead we could get some cold porridge. < 1246410200 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayhaps < 1246410204 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe < 1246410282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: …insipid people are usually the target of such things, but I am wont to ask if we have not been misunderestimating such potential value as to move into a framework beyond atoms, particles and suchlike: maybe if we abandoned these antediluvian concepts, it would be an eclipsing bonanza for all who might attend (although I note that some who attend would not be pleased, as some people can find fault in anything; but I digress). < 1246410312 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im afraid i dont care to read that :/ < 1246410319 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick, find a cylon base ship and plug him in < 1246410341 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wont understand 50% of it anuways, and i dont care to rape a dictionary for that sole purpose < 1246410468 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1246410471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: Hellfire! Brimstone! My, my, we've been busy lately; this Hell business sure seems Popular — with a capital P, you understand (am I pompous if I extend this capital-p starting concept to "capital punishment"? I hope not, for I am about to do so) — but would you be so fine as to make sure that only those who die get here? Specifically, those doing bad deeds; capital punishment may be a good indicator. It's nice, and all, and I am, after all, God, < 1246410473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : so I would know, but I don't really like how you're picking living people from Earth. It kind of disturbs their faith in me. But, really, good work, just keep it for the dead people, okay? < 1246410510 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's unstoppable, he must be a bot < 1246410553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: Ha! Fathom such a prithee concept, but I doubt you could or couldn't depending on the weather; generally data dependencies condition on something much more uninteresting and/or valuable. I guess that's just how the world works on Tuesdays. < 1246410628 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bot on the left half of the world map < 1246410683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu: I tend to disregard such concepts; they are for the old world, and I, why I am of the New World! Honey, milk, you know the deal! I'm like a rapping, gangsta, Hitler God. < 1246410725 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: do you agree? speak your mind! < 1246410726 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal: feed it birth control pills and water once a month, but perhaps it is something medical < 1246410807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. < 1246410811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a weird diet. < 1246410817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Hey, fungot snapped me out of that. < 1246410818 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: " go study some cs you idiot"... ping timeout" < 1246410830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha@ < 1246410832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Ha! < 1246411031 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: no, never been, what is it? < 1246411164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zid: it has icky non-practical masturbatory language design people from lambda-the-ultimate.org < 1246411168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they like haskell. and scheme. < 1246411174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(zid dies of disgust) < 1246411176 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1246411189 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet the smug just OOOZES < 1246411192 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could bottle it < 1246411314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zid < 1246411317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you realise < 1246411323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel is about esoteric programming languages — < 1246411326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deliberately unusable ones < 1246411330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deliberately "masturbatory" < 1246411337 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deliberately exploring the edges of programming language design — < 1246411343 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1246411345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you here if you have such a desperate phobia of such things? < 1246411360 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if befunge is 'exploring the edges of programming language design' then damn < 1246411394 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's pointless for pointless sake, not pointless pretending to not be < 1246411408 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the opposite of the spectrum < 1246411456 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because befunge is the only esolang? < 1246411473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just an idiot obsessed with what's popular; a language is only viable if everyone else uses it too, QED < 1246411479 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're saying haskell and brainfuck serve the same goal? < 1246411482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is masturbatory bullshit because in my bubble i don't hear anyone using it < 1246411485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's idiotic < 1246411490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zid: i never said that < 1246411501 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then why couldn't one like brainfuck but not like haskell < 1246411543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas the point went over your head utterly. < 1246411556 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll have to dumb it down a bit then < 1246411740 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall now interrupt this ridiculous conversation with a monologue from Oedipus Tyrannus, by Sophocles. < 1246411756 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the son of Polybus, who reigns at Corinth, and the Dorian Merope his queen; there long I held the foremost rank, honoured and happy, when a strange event (for strange it was, though little meriting the deep concern I felt) alarmed me much: < 1246411758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/03bb/index.htm < 1246411760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lamda not lambda? < 1246411763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unicode typo? < 1246411773 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A drunken reveller at a feast proclaimed that I was only the supposed son or Corinth's king. Scarce could I bear that day the vile reproach. The next, I sought my parents and asked of them the truth; they too, enraged, resented much the base indignity. < 1246411806 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Sorry, I was busy giggling and being told i'm obsessed with what's popular after admitting I use mainly C and befunge :P < 1246411806 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I liked their tender warmth, but still I felt a secret anguish, and, unknown to them, sought out the Pythian oracle. In vain. Touching my parents nothing could I learn; but dreadful were the miseries it denounced against me. 'Twas my fate, Apollo said, to wed my mother, to produce a race accursed and abhorred; and last, to slay my father who begat me. < 1246411809 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night guys < 1246411823 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :befunge is fun, but not brilliant < 1246411825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, C isn't popular? < 1246411840 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sad decree! Lest I should e'er fulfil the dire prediction, instant I fled from Corinth, by the stars guiding my hapless journey to the place where thou report'st this wretched king was slain. But I will tell thee the whole truth. At length < 1246411841 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came to where the three ways meet, when, lo! A herald, with another man like him whom thou describ'st, and in a chariot, met me. < 1246411873 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both strove with violence to drive me back; enraged, I struck the charioteer, when straight, as I advanced, the old man saw, and twice smote me o' th' head, but dearly soon repaid the insult on me; from his chariot rolled prone on the earth, beneath my staff he fell, and instantly expired! < 1246411887 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are we done yet, can I stop this :P < 1246411909 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, O Wise GregorR, decreer of reasonability and obnoxious floods to end. < 1246412105 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need bread! < 1246412126 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gives nooga some icecream < 1246412137 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zuu? < 1246412153 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes? < 1246412213 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf are you? < 1246412256 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION find it strange that everyone in here seem to be asking that question < 1246412358 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But alright: I'm me, Mostly human, Alive, Awake, Bored and wondering < 1246412378 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now, what are you nooga ? < 1246412391 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an idiot < 1246412398 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except from in need of bread < 1246412408 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. and icecream onyour face < 1246412423 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. sorry, didnt know where else to put it < 1246412506 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let n = pi in foldl (+) 0 (zipWith (\x y -> y*n**x/(product[1..x])) [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])) < 1246412515 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval-core: Prelude.read: no parse < 1246412515 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : mueval: ExitFailure 1 < 1246412523 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vooot? < 1246412580 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let n = pi in foldl (+) [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] cycle [1,-1]] < 1246412583 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[b]' < 1246412603 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let n = pi in foldl (+) 0 [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246412611 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246412620 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHHAAHHA!! < 1246412626 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed it < 1246412669 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought that lambdabot is bulletproof < 1246412680 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :peer got 'im. < 1246412683 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That bastard. < 1246412715 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hehe < 1246412783 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let n = pi in foldl (+) 0 [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246412905 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246413477 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246413736 0 :Associat0r!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"#proglangdesign #ltu ##concurrency" < 1246414888 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1246415079 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note the "" part; I was replying to him. <-- requoting lines with "<--" in them is darn confusing... < 1246415094 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that <-- was mine btw) < 1246415425 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION hates it when he clicks somewhere in a slowly loading browser window to ensure it gets proper focus, and at that moment an ad shows up just there, outside the main frame < 1246415505 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ads? Web pages have ads? Oh yeah, I remember those. < 1246415533 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mind ads as long as they don't sneak up on me unwittingly :D < 1246415630 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ads? Web pages have ads? Whoa. < 1246415642 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> let n = pi/2 in (foldl (+) 0 . take 5) [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246415646 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought I was installing Adblock out of habit. < 1246415654 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Same 'ere! < 1246415656 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHERE IS LAMBDABOT?!?!! < 1246415658 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: no lambdabot :( < 1246415667 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i killed it < 1246415671 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell let n = pi/2 in (foldl (+) 0 . take 5) [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246415674 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.0000035425842861 < 1246415676 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Wrong. < 1246415686 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: in #haskell usually. btw you can private message it < 1246415691 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: > let n = pi in foldl (+) 0 [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246415691 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:43 lambdabot has left IRC (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) < 1246415701 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot take < 1246415707 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: it only came here by special request < 1246415738 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also !haskell is fine as long as you only use Prelude functions, otherwise you'll need some imports < 1246415763 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell mport Data.List; < 1246415769 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WAS EDITING THAT. < 1246415775 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you were < 1246415852 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: btw i'm pretty sure sum = foldl (+) 0, precisely. < 1246415898 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot confirms so < 1246415898 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246415910 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell let n = pi/2 in abs $ sin n - (sum . take 15) [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246415912 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2.220446049250313e-16 < 1246415922 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: small difference < 1246415937 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell let n = pi/2 in (sum . take 15) [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246415938 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.0000000000000002 < 1246415945 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: ? < 1246415961 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: nooga: Wrong. < 1246416012 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246416016 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What of it? < 1246416027 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the result is wrong < 1246416156 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Data.List;main=print$let n = pi/2 in take 15 . scanl (+) 0 [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246416165 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1246416222 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the heck would be wrong with the syntax there... < 1246416265 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell let n = pi/2 in take 15 . scanl (+) 0 [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246416272 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1246416285 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell import Data.List;main=print$let n = pi/2 in take 15 $ scanl (+) 0 [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246416288 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[0.0,1.5707963267948966,0.9248322292886504,1.0045248555348174,0.9998431013994987,1.0000035425842861,0.999999943741051,1.0000000006627803,0.9999999999939768,1.0000000000000437,1.0,1.0000000000000002,1.0000000000000002,1.0000000000000002,1.0000000000000002] < 1246416304 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too bad scanl is one of the non-Prelude functions < 1246416314 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, sleep < 1246416333 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh it gives 1.0 exactly for one moment < 1246416374 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell scanl < 1246416389 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main=scanl < 1246416412 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the HECK? < 1246416440 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION facepalms at that error message < 1246416456 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main=print scanl < 1246416461 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1246416475 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems scanl is Prelude anyhow < 1246416517 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell let n = pi/2 in take 15 $ scanl (+) 0 [y*n**x/(product[1..x]) | (x,y) <- zip [1,3..] (cycle [1,-1])] < 1246416519 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[0.0,1.5707963267948966,0.9248322292886504,1.0045248555348174,0.9998431013994987,1.0000035425842861,0.999999943741051,1.0000000006627803,0.9999999999939768,1.0000000000000437,1.0,1.0000000000000002,1.0000000000000002,1.0000000000000002,1.0000000000000002] < 1246416564 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell scanl < 1246416605 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently that line _really_ messes up something X/ < 1246416613 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell scanl < 1246416627 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell scanl < 1246416651 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main=scanl < 1246416667 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main=main < 1246416680 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :finally it actually gave the sensible error < 1246416706 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main=main should just be an infinite loop < 1246416713 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly detected < 1246416747 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1246416841 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see how little Haskell I remember ... < 1246416855 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main=putStr "Hello" >>= main < 1246416879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!haskell main=putStr "Hello" >> main < 1246416888 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, doesn't have input... < 1246416890 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1246416898 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that'll hit EgoBot's not-doing-anything-without-a-return "feature" < 1246416936 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it flushed output, it'd work *shrugs* < 1246416938 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, with >> anyhow < 1246416940 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>= is Monad m => m a -> (a -> m b), IIRC. < 1246416954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1246416966 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>>= is Monad m => m a -> (a -> m b) -> m b. < 1246417927 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246420823 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1246421895 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246423114 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1246423126 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246424444 0 :fungebob_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1246428191 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"The only thing I know is that I know nothing" < 1246428641 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1246431629 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :literally every link in /r/jailbait is purple :( < 1246431666 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wrong channel < 1246432109 0 :Associat0r!n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1246434387 0 :Associat0r!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"#proglangdesign #ltu ##concurrency" < 1246434654 0 :Associat0r!n=Associat@h163153.upc-h.chello.nl JOIN :#esoteric < 1246435199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1246435200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1246436584 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1246436703 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip70-162-184-81.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246437100 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@77.40.165.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1246437213 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1246437429 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246439833 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1246440104 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1246440211 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-37-102.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1246440535 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-12-202.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246442288 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1246447219 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1246450141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant and/or fizzie: what is the best way to make a C style switch in befuge? The range is continuous and rather small (7 different cases). < 1246450157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all I can think of are rather bulky variants < 1246450158 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The jump table, I guess. < 1246450178 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh with j you mean? Hm could work < 1246450207 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just the arithmetics to move the range to [0, 6] and then something like >... jvvvvvvv with the different cases below that. < 1246450209 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should make a page with befunge idioms. Like >:#,_ and such < 1246450220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it is already in the range 0-6 < 1246450229 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1246450232 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that's even easier then. < 1246450244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though, it would be better to make it vertical in this case < 1246450259 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's up to you, of course. < 1246450358 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's at least two jump tables in fungot; one is the very visible triangle a bit before the middle part (there's not really a reason to have a triangle there except that it looks nice -- the "actions" themselves could be vertical just fine) and one vertically oriented one in the BF "bytecode" interpreter a bit after the "PROG EXECS:" comment. < 1246450358 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: people like christopher rhodes effectively kill off hope for compilation to efficient code") gives me an error < 1246450499 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Since it's continuous, j. < 1246450503 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's not, binary search with w. < 1246450737 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246451209 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246451313 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, that sounds nice. Maybe I should've used that instead of the if-elseif-elseif-else chain I have in fungot's Underload interp. < 1246451314 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie:))) would be more accurate to say that < 1246451631 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: See, you shouldn't be so hostile against w. :-P < 1246452624 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246452660 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@77.40.165.3 JOIN :#esoteric < 1246452949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, w would make a nicely visual search tree too! < 1246452961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you make it balanced < 1246452979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I know the stuff about tree rotations and such, but I don't remember how you decide when to rotate a tree or not < 1246453018 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just write it in a balanced way from the start :-P < 1246453120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yeah I meant, how do you figure out how to make it a balanced tree. < 1246453170 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have all the data from the start, so split it evenly both ways.. < 1246453175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc fizzie is hostile against most befunge98 things except fingerprints? < 1246453180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might misremember < 1246453734 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is mostly true, yes. < 1246453782 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I'm not sure "hostile" is entirely the correct word. I don't carry a "DOWN WITH HERETIC FUNGE-98"/"GOD HATES FUNGE-98" signs around, for example. < 1246454376 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should, I'd like to see the reactions < 1246454440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Asztal, something like "what is that?" < 1246454460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you use i and o in fungot too at least < 1246454460 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246454461 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do you got anything written down, i have to do is collect everything into a vector? < 1246454649 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also [a-f], j. '. But not any of [];nqrsuwxyz{} I think. Maybe k. < 1246454675 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or t, of course. < 1246454726 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1246454810 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"; considered harmful", heh. < 1246454988 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1246455456 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :; are pretty deadly in nethack < 1246456891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1246457602 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1246458071 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"part sur paris pour la japan expo - rentre le 07/07/09 en fin d'après midi" < 1246460705 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1246460708 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246461036 0 :Associ8or!n=Associat@62.194.163.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1246461126 0 :Associ8or!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246461557 0 :Associ8or!n=Associat@62.194.163.153 JOIN :#esoteric < 1246462110 0 :Associat0r!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1246462367 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246463450 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-164-88.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1246464086 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1246464160 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls bin < 1246464161 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/ls: cannot access bin: No such file or directory < 1246464167 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls < 1246464167 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps < 1246464195 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps < 1246464195 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l < 1246464227 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh echo interps/ghc/* < 1246464227 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps/ghc/runghc < 1246464249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!cat interps/ghc/* < 1246464258 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1246464277 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!ls -l interps/ghc/* < 1246464285 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1246464288 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls -l interps/ghc/* < 1246464289 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/ls: interps/ghc/runghc: Function not implemented < 1246464304 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh cat interps/ghc/* < 1246464305 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash < 1246464465 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246464500 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1246464582 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1246465242 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm amused by how your flame at Harrop has already got 5 points < 1246465387 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246465405 0 :pikhq_!n=pikhq@75-106-100-121.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246465454 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :pikhq < 1246465768 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1246465788 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@pal-179-219.itap.purdue.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1246465846 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@rrcs-74-62-7-76.west.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1246466854 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1246466854 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1246466854 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1246466855 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1246466855 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1246466879 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@rrcs-74-62-7-76.west.biz.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1246466879 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246466879 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-37-102.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1246466879 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=user@79.174.35.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1246466879 0 :lifthrasiir!n=lifthras@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1246469006 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1246469735 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf68ca.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246469875 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246470516 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246470532 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-37-102.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1246470910 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comment karma: -1056 < 1246470913 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impressive < 1246471069 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1246471171 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION considers adding Harrop's disliked posts to his favorites. Well, almost. < 1246471172 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trollface.jpg < 1246473088 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, who? < 1246473111 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1246473172 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there any functional language without garbage collectionj < 1246473175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :collection* < 1246473315 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: John D. Harrop, the person ehird just flamed on reddit. Shameless ocaml/F# advertiser iiuc < 1246473349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh what a mix... < 1246473387 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically my impression was he seems to downvote every _other_ PL discussion than his favorite languages, so the top of the list was an interesting haskell post i had missed :D < 1246473404 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean mix? < 1246473516 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: functional language without garbage collection makes only a little sense, since free use of functional idioms means object lifetimes quickly become undecidable without it. < 1246473584 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although there are implementations that attempt to minimize gc with things like region inference < 1246473634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: functional language without garbage collection makes only a little sense, since free use of functional idioms means object lifetimes quickly become undecidable without it. <-- I'm well aware of this < 1246473642 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why I wondered if there is a GC free one < 1246473643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather < 1246473666 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one with completely manual memory management for the functional bits < 1246473692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ocaml+F# < 1246473707 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F# is ocaml for .NET < 1246473718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, source code compatible? < 1246473726 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure < 1246473744 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not completely anyway < 1246473764 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it adds support for .NET types < 1246473776 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i know little more about F# < 1246473818 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i vaguely recall it also removes functors, or something like that < 1246473832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmhm < 1246473836 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm* < 1246473907 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could've sworn that garbage collecting was straight-up required for functional programming? < 1246473943 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well, you could possibly figure out some stuff will be dead by end of function and thus compile it into an allocation on the stack instead < 1246473948 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or similar < 1246473972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would be surprised if at least ghc and ocaml didn't do that sort of stuff. < 1246473976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at oerjan < 1246473977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I *guess* if you just assumed naught but lambdas you could maybe do it... < 1246474007 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er i'm pretty sure lambdas are the source of the problem, actually, or closures rather < 1246474028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :returning a function definitely can cause problems yeah < 1246474051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah closure to be specific < 1246474057 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closures? Who said anything about closures? < 1246474062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could of course return a function pointer without problems < 1246474067 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not a lambda. < 1246474073 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: lambda expressions are closures in their purest form < 1246474118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so evaulating lambda calculus requires a GC? < 1246474128 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. Closures. Why did I think 'continuation' when I saw that? XD < 1246474128 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1246474175 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although reference counting suffices. or you could copy the next step somewhere... but that would be inefficient. < 1246474299 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"zealot" was the word i couldn't remember when telling who harrop was < 1246474395 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc he has admitted to willfully using disruptive postings to promote his services < 1246474427 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's not just a strong opinion, but essentially commercial spamming < 1246474608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oh, right. Closures. Why did I think 'continuation' when I saw that? XD <-- you aren't alone to confuse them... < 1246474645 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in a channel where people cannot distinguish GregorR and Gracenotes ... < 1246474656 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ducks < 1246474671 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have precedence over 'Gr' because it's my ACTUAL, HUMAN NAME :P < 1246474685 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your name is Gr? < 1246474690 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1246474696 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his parents were weird < 1246474696 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have precedence over 'Gr' because it's /the beginning of/ my ACTUAL, HUMAN NAME :P < 1246474710 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it is in that it's my first and last initials: GR :P < 1246474710 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's with the egorR-L? Crappy last name or something? < 1246474715 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, iirc I heard of someone known as "Grace", and I can't see why you can't have "Notes" as a family name. < 1246474728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering how many strange family names there are < 1246474731 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Sure. But Gracenotes is, IIRC, male :P < 1246474741 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whereas "Grace" is a female name) < 1246474743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR, right < 1246474747 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I know < 1246474747 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome, I want a dash in my last name too < 1246474761 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: BTW, you think family names here are weird, wait till you check out Japanese ones. < 1246474765 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Nonono, it's hyphenated. My dad's last name is egorR, my mom's is L < 1246474771 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1246474771 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I wouldn't know what they mean < 1246474773 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of them were invented in the late 1800s. < 1246474773 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, mixed case < 1246474850 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1246475143 0 :Slereah!n=Slereah@ANantes-259-1-15-183.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1246475219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl food < 1246475603 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1246476812 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1246477269 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1246477499 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1246478317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is lambda in scheme called that? < 1246478487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't *that* closely related to lambda as far I understand? < 1246478505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe it is < 1246479287 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: sure it is < 1246479300 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its just an n-ary lambda, thats all. < 1246479907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, ah right < 1246480123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION found some music that he thinks ehird will like < 1246480141 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c8F99BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1246480488 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246481020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1246481027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sourceforge was redesigned again? < 1246481043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1246481050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, you noticed? < 1246481372 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was that email about it. < 1246481377 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I jumped ship from Sourceforge a long time ago. < 1246481390 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's soooo terrible right now (or maybe this latest redesign was an improvement?) < 1246481406 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YIKES < 1246481408 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not an improvement. < 1246481424 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On Tuesday 2009-06-30 at 16:00 UTC, we will be testing the first phase of our new consumer (user) pages." Then they'll revert it, and then launch on Wednesday 2009-07-01. I guess this might be the actual launch now. < 1246481447 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What they say they're doing is: "We have received feedback from you and your fellow project administrators that we need an easier path for users to download your software." < 1246481451 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it easier now? < 1246481463 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a giant green "Download now!" button. < 1246481477 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, couldn't be much easier than that! < 1246481508 0 :Judofyr!n=Judofyr@c8F99BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1246481988 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1246482010 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sourceforge redesigned *again*? < 1246482032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must've taken another hit of the Enterprise. < 1246482365 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: you think i go on sourceforge? < 1246482367 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how cute. < 1246482416 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is an amusing way of compiling C to JVM... < 1246482428 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have GCC compile to MIPS. Compile MIPS to JVM. < 1246482435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, ? < 1246482449 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i do not visit sourceforge. < 1246482451 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, you generally end up having to download some project from there every now and then < 1246482459 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really! < 1246482489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : There's a giant green "Download now!" button. <--- that was there before? < 1246482490 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their new site makes me thing: crappy file hosting site/url squatter < 1246482500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, the new one yes < 1246482503 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Yes, exactly. < 1246482513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like a mix between that and github < 1246482514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow < 1246482534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :long live bzr and hg! < 1246482552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :launchpad has keept almost the same design for years now < 1246482556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only minor changes < 1246482858 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1246483708 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246484729 0 :augur_!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246484729 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246486444 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: cfunge fails for files with mac line endings < 1246486665 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mac line endings fail. < 1246486671 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both metaphorically and quite literally. < 1246486701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what version? < 1246486706 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trunk < 1246486717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, can you filebin the file in question < 1246486726 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I tested it on mycology converted to CR line endings < 1246486728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it works < 1246486774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, pastebin won't work, they mangle < 1246486777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :needs a filebin < 1246486784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or upload with scp or similiar < 1246486809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION waits < 1246486845 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 1-:#v_@ < 1246486850 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, filebin < 1246486856 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why the fuck would I filebin that < 1246486864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, there is no line ending at all in that you pasted < 1246486878 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a line of text, it ends in a newline < 1246486916 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, it is an infinite loop? < 1246486923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least it never seems to end here < 1246486930 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Your loader infinite loops. < 1246486942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I was using LF line endings here to test it... < 1246486944 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first < 1246486957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tix=0 tid=0 x=4 y=0: v (118) < 1246486957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Stack has 1 elements, top 5 (or less) elements: < 1246486957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : -1 < 1246486962 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite loop yeah for LF < 1246486963 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're right, that one doesn't trigger it :-( < 1246486966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets try CR < 1246486970 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah! < 1246486990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION runs recode /CR test.b98 < 1246486999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exact same result < 1246487012 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, closing bug as INVALID < 1246487028 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Shut up, I told you the case was flawed < 1246487032 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : > v < 1246487032 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^ < < 1246487035 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, please reopen if you have a working test case < 1246487039 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ^. < 1246487040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... < 1246487061 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Including the leading spaces. < 1246487065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right... < 1246487080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite loop with LF as expected < 1246487083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION recodes < 1246487091 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same result with CR? < 1246487113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I'm sorry, I can't reproduce, I get an infinite loop in the program according to the trace. Not in the loader < 1246487122 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that infinite loop is expected < 1246487134 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's not the loader, I misspoke. The trace says that the v never finds the <. < 1246487144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tix=0 tid=0 x=20 y=0: v (118) < 1246487145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Stack is empty. < 1246487145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tix=0 tid=0 x=20 y=1: < (60) < 1246487145 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Stack is empty. < 1246487148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like it does to me? < 1246487154 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, sure you are actually using the last trunk < 1246487166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please pastebin ./cfunge -v < 1246487176 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that I updated it fifteen minutes ago... yes < 1246487186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, please pastebin output of ./cfunge -v < 1246487206 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246487215 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: zsh: no such file or directory: ./cfunge < 1246487228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well, relevant path then < 1246487232 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know what I meant < 1246487253 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has the wrong uname. < 1246487259 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But screw it. < 1246487263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1246487286 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.pastie.org/private/sxj29wgewpmqvhfdzbahja < 1246487292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1246487331 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what bit was the wrong uname btw? < 1246487353 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The bit that has the uname -r. < 1246487386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, mhm. Since I use cmake to figure it out I guess I forgot to account for cmake caching the result of that check < 1246487397 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will look at that later < 1246487419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, okay, can reproduce it now. *debugs < 1246487427 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great. *sleeps < 1246487461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(gdb) call fungespace_dump() < 1246487461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Positive fungespace follows: < 1246487461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : > v < 1246487461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ < < 1246487463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1246487471 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why < 1246487518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1246487544 0 :Judofyr!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1246487590 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easy to fix < 1246487594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a three line change < 1246487657 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, fix pushed < 1246487861 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That looks like four added lines to me! < 1246489739 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1246490440 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@HSI-KBW-091-089-027-168.hsi2.kabelbw.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1246491089 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1246491099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION notices people mentioning his flame in the backlog. Gee, I'm famous. < 1246491131 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1246491150 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1246491210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:00 bsmntbombdood: literally every link in /r/jailbait is purple :( < 1246491210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :06:01 bsmntbombdood: ...wrong channel < 1246491211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1246491276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so very wrong channel < 1246491279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:35 oerjan: AnMaster: John D. Harrop, the person ehird just flamed on reddit. Shameless ocaml/F# advertiser iiuc < 1246491283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he does it — and he has said this — < 1246491287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to generate business for his company < 1246491292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in his deluded, fuckheaded world, this actually works. < 1246491298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the real one, he's just an intolerable idiot < 1246491327 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why don't they ban him? < 1246491384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:28 AnMaster found some music that he thinks ehird will like < 1246491385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o rly < 1246491400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:43 AnMaster: sourceforge was redesigned again? < 1246491401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:44 AnMaster: what the hell < 1246491403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like github. < 1246491461 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : their new site makes me thing: crappy file hosting site/url squatter < 1246491463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : looks like github. < 1246491464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1246491468 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1246491485 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, as for that music.. < 1246491513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, https://freedroid.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/freedroid/sound/music/Bleostrada.ogg <-- do you like it? < 1246491536 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1246491637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:34 AnMaster: ehird, so very wrong channel // yeah, I believe that was destined for #reddit < 1246491651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:35 AnMaster: ehird, why don't they ban him? // who? he's everywhere < 1246491659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:37 AnMaster: :D // shush, someone else said github too < 1246491667 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought squatter at first < 1246491669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too < 1246491673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll listen in a sec. < 1246491693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, prediction: in one year's time, it will be big news if a week passes without a redesign of sourceforge < 1246491701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8xaas/how_did_i_not_find_this_language_years_ago/c0aq1g9, btw, is his comment and my flame < 1246491708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"colostomy bag" now ranks among my favourite insults < 1246491775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, OCaml for Scientists actually costs £85 < 1246491781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't realise it was _that_ expensive < 1246491783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jeez harrop < 1246491882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: downloading that thar ogg < 1246491923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : wow, OCaml for Scientists actually costs £85 <--? < 1246491932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jon Harrop's shitty book. < 1246491935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1246491945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :£85 is a ridiculous price; most programming books are like £30 < 1246492048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that song is ok. i mean, i like the basic style, but it's still of typical game music quality < 1246492055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/song/track/ for accuracy < 1246492069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/8xaas/how_did_i_not_find_this_language_years_ago/ <-- what do you think about the actual thing it links to? < 1246492088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a rather typical i-love-lisp post. not particularly interesting. < 1246492089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never found scheme and pascal similar... < 1246492099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I programmed in pascal yes < 1246492101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are, in a perverse way < 1246492105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh? < 1246492118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure. pascal's how to do it the wrong way ;-) < 1246492137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[though original pascal, really, wasn't all that bad a language] < 1246492141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1246492155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, delphi is pascal gone really really bad < 1246492164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I coded in other pascal variants too < 1246492169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :delphi is really .awful < 1246492171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*really awful. < 1246492174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed < 1246492179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to learn to write sentences linearly < 1246492195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's especially annoying on the iphone < 1246492200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wrote that flame on it and it took like 3 minutes < 1246492207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :constantly trying to reposition the cursor < 1246492227 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1246492230 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have i mentioned < 1246492231 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3u < 1246492240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not recently. < 1246492243 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH < 1246492244 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1246492246 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3u < 1246492247 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP Karl Malden < 1246492256 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP DYING, CELEBRITIES < 1246492257 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP IT < 1246492260 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whos karl malden < 1246492261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009 is a fun year for dying. < 1246492266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Malden < 1246492275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i wkipedi-ae-d it. < 1246492280 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man what i dont even know this guy < 1246492294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S OKAY, BILLY MAYS IS MORE IMPORTANT < 1246492304 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're all too young to have known Karl Malden :P < 1246492306 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But still. < 1246492308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i need to learn to write sentences linearly <-- How do you write them then < 1246492312 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stop dying, celebrities! STOP IT! < 1246492318 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I was a celebrity, I'd be worried right now. < 1246492324 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :billy mays is so more important < 1246492329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : RIP Karl Malden STOP DYING, CELEBRITIES <-- should I know who this is? < 1246492329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I write a basic outline or the whole thing if it's simple enough, then bat around correcting errors and rewriting and adding and removing < 1246492333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has no clue < 1246492341 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster < 1246492350 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a Swede less than 50 years old, no :P < 1246492363 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what he does is, he constructs the semantic content of the sentence in semi-graph form < 1246492390 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then he applies a transformation algorithm that linearizes the graph, producing a set of potential sentences < 1246492390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i'm not sure that will help :) < 1246492391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1246492405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, that makes perfect sense < 1246492406 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then he selects among them, choosing the one that is most pragmatically effective < 1246492412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err ok < 1246492426 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it takes ehird about three and a half hours to construct each sentence < 1246492428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOLY SHIT < 1246492432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PATRICK SWAYZE DIED < 1246492436 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who? < 1246492442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.................. < 1246492450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's a guy who's dead. < 1246492462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a celebrity? < 1246492463 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if thats true < 1246492466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((goodnight sweet prince)))))))))))))))) < 1246492468 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its not much of a surprise < 1246492473 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since he had serious cancer < 1246492481 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1246492501 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: link? < 1246492502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wikipedia says he is alive? < 1246492523 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anmaster: if he JUST died < 1246492551 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can find no evidence to support this observation. < 1246492571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made you look. < 1246492571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Goodnight_Sweet_Prince < 1246492574 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: if he JUST died < 1246492583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1246492585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: ...then I wouldn't know about it. < 1246492586 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: And what, ehird is his buddy? :P < 1246492591 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: but you might! < 1246492602 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rumor mill is mysterious < 1246492721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Terms of use: no crawlers, no wget, no site copying, use of pictures, movies and text only with permission. No excessive rss feed checking." < 1246492725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ rms cannot visit this site. < 1246492768 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1246492789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: stallman browses the web by sending email to a daemon which then wgets the page in batch mode and emails it back to him.