< 1247097677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Many says “there are only weekdays, no weekends in TmaxSoft”11, but I recall that Apple also did so when it’s designing iPod. From today Tmax Window development team is given the vacation for a week… 07–08 04:xx PM?" < 1247097678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how lucky they are! < 1247098117 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, acid3 test score can vary. once firefox suffered from same problem. < 1247098132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1247098134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder how < 1247098137 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i wonder what web standard has to be sacrificed even in standard mode... < 1247098183 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 100 won thing is just joking. they presumbly made new account just for demonstration. < 1247098196 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1247098214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir: btw acid 3 depends on certain handling of INVALID code < 1247098216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acid 2 too < 1247098221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's rubbish for measuring standards compliance < 1247098248 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except maybe HTML5 compliance. < 1247098255 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which specifies how you should parse invalid code) < 1247098256 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1247098265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, that's just informative < 1247098272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HTML 5 can't regulate invalid HTML 5, that's ridiculous. < 1247098282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just like XML can't regulate how you handle invalid XML documents even though it claims to. < 1247098326 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: while it also deals with invalid code, animation part of acid3 can be used for such. < 1247098363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1247098377 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway it is stupid to claim "good standard support" just with acid tests < 1247098846 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247100412 0 :zid!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1247100437 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247100869 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1247101138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : First let’s view [Acid3 test page] with Internet Explorer. (Launches Internet Explorer 8) Okay, it failed with 12 [out of 100] points and… Shall we wait more? …Yes it scored 20. Then let’s view same page [with Scoutor]. (Launches Tmax Scoutor, and scores 98 out of 100) Oh… Let’s try once more. (Screen reloaded, in this time scores 99 out of 100) Ha, we made it to 99 points. (Ap < 1247101138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plause) <-- where is that quote from? < 1247101151 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lifthrasiir's article http://cosmic.mearie.org/2009/07/tmax-window/ < 1247101355 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247101365 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=user@79.174.35.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1247101367 0 :sgeo!n=sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247101525 0 :inurinternet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1247101612 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lost my only reason to use Windows as my primary OS < 1247101661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: You mean masochism? < 1247101703 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1247101710 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VirtualBox is working on 3D support :D < 1247101742 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: s/is working on/has working/. < 1247101751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that it will never be as fast as a full Windows bootup. < 1247101765 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Direct3D experimentally supported or something? < 1247101792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: the rest of the devices are still virtualized < 1247101895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, interesting. < 1247101930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stinks of GPL violations. < 1247101947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. nothing will come of it though. < 1247102025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does 3D in virtualbox require hardware virtualization? < 1247102031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's impressive that it runs big windows programs better than wine and reactos though. especially with such a timescale. < 1247102038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i think you just install a driver < 1247102045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1247102046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that talks to the host's driver < 1247102054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you have to bridge it via the vm < 1247102063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's a tiny overhead < 1247102102 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...faster than ReactOS? How? < 1247102113 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does ReactOS suck or something? < 1247102120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said better. < 1247102126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It runs IE and Word with only minor glitches. < 1247102129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ReactOS cannot do that. < 1247102136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yes, ReactOS sucks; so much time, so little results. < 1247102150 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...glitches? In a VM? < 1247102155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does reactos reuse code from wine and vice verse? < 1247102162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... < 1247102168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: I'm talking not of VirtualBox, silly. < 1247102170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo, go read logs < 1247102173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am talking of tmax. < 1247102177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://cosmic.mearie.org/2009/07/tmax-window/ < 1247102187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think they share some code. < 1247102282 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much of the user space code could probably be shared < 1247102488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortinet#Controversies "It has been said by 125 people DEFTA causes too much drama and should be closed down, though sources have not confirmed this." <-- that seems completely out of context. Wiki spam I guess? < 1247102511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, last revsion < 1247102555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys < 1247102562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's invest $40,000 into this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAt2xD1L8dw < 1247102567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the models are of amazing quality, wow < 1247102582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1247102584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was made in under 4 hours < 1247102710 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now, have it able to to electronics and I'll be happy < 1247102739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :malcontent. < 1247102745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can't print a pony either. < 1247102878 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just like any other printer" except for taking hours and not minutes >.> < 1247102913 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, not printing ponies is a problem < 1247102915 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1247102934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: Cry me a fucking river. It prints a great-looking, coloured 3D object that looks like something you'd buy in the store and you can make it shiny and nice, with barely any maintenance, in less than four hours. < 1247102939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any complaining over that is just ridiculous < 1247102976 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, I just like complaining < 1247102978 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1247102985 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reprap will be able to print electronics in the future < 1247102987 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not usually, don't know what's with me now) < 1247102991 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not as good looking models though < 1247103010 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Screw form! Long Live Function, Down With Form! < 1247103021 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo, I agree < 1247103025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always agreed < 1247103027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to that < 1247103048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Form is function in a lot of cases. < 1247103058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For instance, in, say, a glass. < 1247103066 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can say good-bye to... dangerous baths" < 1247103068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes... < 1247103069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, you could easily use an ugly, reprapped, white thing. < 1247103083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you could buy one made out of real glass that doesn't look like play-dough. < 1247103086 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they say you can put the object in some sealant thing < 1247103092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anything that can be more like the latter with the qualities of the former... < 1247103096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: Watch on. < 1247103100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just painting it. < 1247103104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically. < 1247103164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it uses the powder as the support thingy for overhanging structures? < 1247103183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and? < 1247103193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it was a question if that was what happened... < 1247103198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno. < 1247103254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably works by sintering then < 1247103279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is i looks amazing and I want one :) < 1247103280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders local sintering using a laser < 1247103288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: nope < 1247103291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sintering makes ceramics < 1247103299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :# Selective laser sintering, a rapid prototyping technology. < 1247103300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1247103301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1247103306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you could use the same thing for plastic powder I'm quite sure < 1247103309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selective laser sintering is an additive manufacturing technique that uses a high power laser (for example, a carbon dioxide laser) to fuse small particles of plastic, metal, ceramic, or glass powders into a mass representing a desired 3-dimensional object. The laser selectively fuses powdered material by scanning cross-sections generated from a 3-D digital description of the part (for example from a CAD file or scan data) on the surface of a powder bed < 1247103312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. After each cross-section is scanned, the powder bed is lowered by one layer thickness, a new layer of material is applied on top, and the process is repeated until the part is completed. < 1247103315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that seems it < 1247103322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't require support structures it says < 1247103349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah, because the non-melted powder acts as a support structure already < 1247103351 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make action figures for my hypothetical kids without buying them in stores! < 1247103363 0 :upyr[emacs]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247103375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: that's the furthest your thought process goes?! < 1247103381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the trick is getting it smooth and such. That isn't easy. < 1247103386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking more on the lines of printing kids! < 1247103395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the object they show seems exceptionally smooth < 1247103402 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes... < 1247103414 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, very thin layers + good examples I guess ;) < 1247103419 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The object they show looks ray-traced >.> < 1247103436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 400dpi it says < 1247103447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't think in non-metric < 1247103454 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many dots per cm is it < 1247103458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you serious? < 1247103461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody says dots per cm. < 1247103471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: an inch is abotu this big: | | < 1247103473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*about < 1247103484 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a very intuitive size < 1247103494 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could you make spare parts with this thing? < 1247103496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, about 2.5 cm? < 1247103499 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I measured on screen < 1247103510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 2.54cm exactly. < 1247103522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you were lucky when you guessed my font size < 1247103523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1247103538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably about the width your thumb and... next-to-thumb make when you try and show someone what "a small distance" is < 1247103548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: font size + dpi < 1247103552 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, thumb is wider? < 1247103558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just went a bit over an inch for me < 1247103564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you have big hands < 1247103568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i meant < 1247103569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :distance < 1247103572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :between thumb and ntt < 1247103577 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I have mentioned both dpi and font size before iirc < 1247103582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1247103587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you also know which font < 1247103595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just eyeballed it < 1247103601 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1247103636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, is it 400 layers per inch too? < 1247103735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who knows. < 1247103740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the interesting part here is the colour I think < 1247103745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for less than $40k it's a steal < 1247103771 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theory: basic SLS, but before sintering drop down some ink in the powder. < 1247103781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * ZPrinter 310 Plus (monochrome, affordable, easy to use) < 1247103781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * ZPrinter 450 (full color, automated, office friendly) < 1247103782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :result: ink is merged with the plastic basically < 1247103783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * Spectrum Z510 (high resolution, premium color, large size) < 1247103785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : * ZPrinter 650 (best-in-class, largest models, highest resolution, best color) < 1247103787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's get 650! < 1247103789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they tell you it's inkjet < 1247103789 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html < 1247103793 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: old < 1247103795 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE THE CLOUD! < 1247103802 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes... < 1247103805 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM ANTI-CLOUD < 1247103812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I watched it < 1247103813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sgeo: EXPRESS YOUR OPINION WITH ALL CAPITALS PLEASE < 1247103815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: :p < 1247103818 0 :sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SGEO < 1247103825 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I was just wondering *how* the ink works < 1247103831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh the 650 just looks like a souped up 450, lame < 1247103835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah < 1247103847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://www.zcorp.com/en/Products/3D-Printers/ZPrinter-450/spage.aspx has images of objects < 1247103847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what do they cost? < 1247103865 0 :SGEO!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, why should sensitive data be given to large corportations like Google? < 1247103869 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`calc 39,000 $ in sek < 1247103870 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :39 000 US$ = 312 292.306 Swedish kronor < 1247103872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: roughly. < 1247103884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SGEO: don't you use gmail? < 1247103890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you do, so stop talking now. < 1247103902 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ... I think I will go for reprap instead ... < 1247103912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: y'know, it IS for corporations < 1247103916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: anyway for the capabilities that's a great price < 1247103919 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1247103922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Seriously, why should sensitive data be given to large corportations like Google? <-- I agree < 1247103923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1247103924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reprap isn't even in the same league really < 1247103928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't used gmail for ages < 1247103930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like pentium pro vs xeon cluster < 1247103938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I used to use it for some mailing list. gentoo-amd64 iirc < 1247103950 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something which was already public anyway < 1247103952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "cloud" can be good. it can be bad. < 1247103965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never for anything personal < 1247103965 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, agreed < 1247103965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it really varies. < 1247103967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :having one opinion and sticking to it without considering it case by case is merely religion. < 1247103976 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Pentium Pro *on FPGA* vs. Xeon cluster. < 1247103990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, heh :) < 1247103996 0 :SGEO!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm ok with the cloud for non-sensitive stuff < 1247103996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could that be done? < 1247104003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why not? < 1247104003 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean... Pentium Pro on FPGA < 1247104008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly possibl < 1247104009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1247104018 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming a sufficiently large FPGA, sure. < 1247104022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 8086 on FPGA 3d-scanned and the region of space emulated by a computer based on fans, grills, gates and plastic balls flying around < 1247104024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WIN < 1247104027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah I guess Pentium Pros are slow enough to handle < 1247104034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— talk about fan noise eh — < 1247104039 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the speed doesn't make it a pentium pr < 1247104040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1247104048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, an fpga will not match even pentium speeds. < 1247104056 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1247104065 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It will match the bottom of Pentium's speed. < 1247104068 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.zcorp.com/images/173_008.jpg ← This is what people use 3D printers for: to make hi-tech dildos. < 1247104071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dildii. Dildae. < 1247104073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They made 75 Mhz Pentiums. < 1247104083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :75Mhz would be one hefty fpga < 1247104099 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but you can obtain FPGAs that can do that. < 1247104107 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1247104116 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc there are 100 MHz FPGAs even < 1247104138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think the limit is somewhere around there, unless things changed since I last looked < 1247104157 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why y'all propagating the mhz myth < 1247104158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.zcorp.com/images/173_008.jpg ← This is what people use 3D printers for: to make hi-tech dildos. <-- what is it *really* supposed to be? < 1247104163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no idea. < 1247104183 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Elaborate. < 1247104193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth < 1247104207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a meaningless way to measure speed < 1247104217 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of it, yes. What the *fuck* does it have to do with anything in this circumstance? < 1247104234 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Megahertz is not being used as a speed of computation, it's being used as a measure of clock cycles. < 1247104263 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically, whether or not an FPGA can offer a clock speed that an ASIC Pentium had. < 1247104297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you can see it isn't perfectly smooth in http://www.zcorp.com/en/imagesets/52/show.aspx < 1247104307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty good yes but... < 1247104365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that one hasn't got the paint thing on i think < 1247104379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: we were talking about speed; you mentioned clock speed < 1247104382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two are not directly related. < 1247104387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: but it's good enough < 1247104401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so is reprap for some things ;P < 1247104407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah but no < 1247104435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I hope you won't call http://www.zcorp.com/en/imagesets/58/show.aspx "smooth" < 1247104458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a matte and rough finish < 1247104467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not smooth, but it looks nice. < 1247104474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could easily, as I said, make it smooth < 1247104481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sand paper? < 1247104494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol if you want < 1247104505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what else < 1247104510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see the video. < 1247104518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I saw < 1247104525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, which part of it did you mean < 1247104542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bit where they coat the thing with some stuff and it looks all shiny < 1247104561 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is some color fixation thing and glossy thing < 1247104573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't make the item less *rouge*, just glossy < 1247104581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right well use some other stuff on the thing so it looks more like thingy < 1247104584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("ah, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded") < 1247104605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah, like sandpaper ;P < 1247104607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("what i'd do, is just like, like, you know, like, you know what i mean like" etc) < 1247104671 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what would happen if you wanted to make a sealed plastic bubble? You can't < 1247104691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor a living, breathing pony that loves you < 1247104692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? Because you won't get the powder out of it < 1247104705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it, get powder out, seal it < 1247104714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm prettu sure reprap could do it < 1247104720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1247104724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reprap cannot produce complex shapes < 1247104725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they fall apart < 1247104727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to solder shit together < 1247104731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err it can < 1247104735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are wrong < 1247104738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry < 1247104742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I seen it on their web-site < 1247104743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to do a lot of soldering to make stuff with reprap < 1247104748 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes. those are soldered < 1247104756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/7/1/87109256baca5c0b5728fac15ed20220.png ← [.,.] it's a smiley! < 1247104775 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, where does it mention that < 1247104780 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and how do you solder them < 1247104792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, reprap based on sintering would be nice < 1247104799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: google it or whatever, and with a soldering iron. < 1247104800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that technology works pretty well < 1247104804 0 :inurinternet!n=nuri@cpe-72-132-164-88.dc.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1247104806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get the two pieces, put them together, solder, done. < 1247104826 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it can do temp support structures < 1247104834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1247104838 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I don't think such a ball would need it. < 1247104842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: please, stop showing your ignorance of reprap < 1247104850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it cannot do non-trivial structures < 1247104879 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, examples of soldered ones on their website. I know one. A flyswatter too large to *fit in the machine* < 1247104886 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which isn't "complex", just "large" < 1247104903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you asked for it: < 1247104906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1247104909 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I did < 1247104959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://reprap.org/pub/Main/ItemsMade/shoes-small.jpg ← three parts, soldered together < 1247104961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more < 1247104962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically < 1247104969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything that hovers over something else < 1247104969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like < 1247104971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can do < 1247104973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|_| < 1247104975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not < 1247104977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|=| < 1247104980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where = is further apart < 1247104983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to solder < 1247104985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it fails < 1247104993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, isn't it because of size? < 1247105010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but ok < 1247105071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1247105076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, reprap uses FDM instead of SLS. < 1247105079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reprap cannot do non-trivial shapes, as I said < 1247105089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why? < 1247105098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: here's what will happen: < 1247105099 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and where does it say < 1247105115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on their front marketing pag. < 1247105115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1247105120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask pikhq if you want non-ehird verification < 1247105151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, he said it today? < 1247105159 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said "ask". < 1247105163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1247105167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I misread < 1247105187 0 :SGEO!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Help protect yourself against viruses and spam" <-- from an MSN TV demo thing < 1247105192 0 :SGEO!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.msntv.com/pc/experience/ < 1247105224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://pastie.org/539475.txt?key=g6pcpbtzaxvxfx3ixb8veq < 1247105264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes.. that is why there is the second nozzle to add support material to be able to do that. < 1247105272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/shrug < 1247105277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I only speak from reading the user made objects. < 1247105303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12. This agreement will be governed by the laws of British Columbia, Canada. < 1247105303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13. You may not use the service if you are a citizen or resident of Canada. < 1247105305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—tarsnap terms of conditions < 1247105310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( https://beta.tarsnap.com/terms-why.html#NOCANADIANS ) < 1247105319 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1247105321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1247105325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: see my link < 1247105327 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sales tax issues < 1247105333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that don't exist when selling to people abroad < 1247105342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it IS in paid beta, after all < 1247105354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tarsnap is an encrypted backup service using amazon's S3 storage service that powers amazon.com) < 1247105366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(by Colin Percival, cryptography & BSD extraordinaire) < 1247105394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :($0.30 per 1gb per month storage, same for bandwidth. good deal) < 1247105398 0 :SGEO!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarsnap? < 1247105402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SGEO: see above < 1247105416 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(S3 charges $0.15 per 1gb per month storage, dunno about bandwidth) < 1247105428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but lacks the nice backup client, cryptography code, incremental stuff, etc etc etc) < 1247105981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buh bye. < 1247106072 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You remember the crazy uber-build? < 1247106082 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... There's now six-core Opterons. < 1247106335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1247107381 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1247107654 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: OH HAI. < 1247107678 0 :SGEO!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi pikhq < 1247107707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How < 1247107709 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thou? < 1247107744 0 :SGEO!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, except looking like < 1247107772 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^_^ < 1247112544 0 :SGEO!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3238 < 1247113702 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1247113719 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247116469 0 :immibis!n=IceChat7@125-236-168-93.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1247118193 0 :JoelyWoely!n=CESSMAST@unaffiliated/joelywoely JOIN :#esoteric < 1247118264 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247121187 0 :JoelyWoely!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :CESSMASTER < 1247122519 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.org <- Nobody cares enough to cybersquat it" < 1247122664 0 :icefox!n=icefox@c-71-192-50-29.hsd1.ma.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247126096 0 :upyr[emacs]!n=user@79.174.35.21 JOIN :#esoteric < 1247126399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1247126400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1247126441 0 :MizardX!n=MizardX@81-224-42-23-no80.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1247127200 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1247127221 0 :rodgort!n=rodgort@ludios.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247128370 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-3-138.w90-55.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1247128788 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1247130088 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1247130632 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c *(char*)NULL = 0; < 1247130633 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./interps/gcccomp/gcccomp: line 52: 15970 Segmentation fault /tmp/compiled.$$ < 1247131623 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1247133713 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1247134340 0 :SGEO!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1247134482 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how many programs and os's would break on a computer with 9-bit bytes, but otherwise identical to whatever the program/os normally runs on < 1247134881 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is working on 3d ascii art graphics in a terminal < 1247135182 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Copywight 2007 Elmer Fudd. All wights wesewved." < 1247137875 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1247137875 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1247137876 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1247137878 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1247137878 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1247137878 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1247137879 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1247137879 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1247137879 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1247137879 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1247137879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT 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1247156079 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-2-146.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247156715 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1247157788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually that printer doesn't melt: < 1247157807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One variation of 3D printing consists of an inkjet printing system. Layers of a fine powder (plaster, corn starch, or resins) are selectively bonded by "printing" an adhesive from the inkjet printhead in the shape of each cross-section as determined by a CAD file. This technology is the only one that allows for the printing of full colour prototypes. It is also recognized as the fastest method." < 1247157812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_printing < 1247158993 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1247160280 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1247160895 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1247166160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247166567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :18:21:22 ... There's now six-core Opterons. < 1247166574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: there are eight-core Nehalem-EXs. < 1247166615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "Nehalem-EX will provide tremendous scalability, from large-memory two-socket systems through eight-socket systems capable of processing 128 threads" < 1247166628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8x8 = 64 cores. < 1247166676 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Shipping now? < 1247166699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the price of the uberrig? You could pay them to ship now. They have, however, been demonstrated. http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20090526comp.htm < 1247166704 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That six-core Opteron is on sale right now. < 1247166712 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$700 a chip. < 1247166722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what? Feasibility is not a goal of the uber rig. < 1247166725 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(8-core coming out in $SOON) < 1247166807 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1247166816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We should remake the uberrig focusing on performance instead of price; it got a bit the silly with the "adding 40,000 harddrives" thing. < 1247166889 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More DDR3 is required. < 1247166900 0 :icefox!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually six-core for $600 is pretty reasonable, the alternative would be picking multiple machines with dual/quad which would cost a bit more < 1247166917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :icefox: O RLY? You have clearly not seen our 8-processor system. < 1247166936 0 :icefox!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1247166942 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$5,600 for CPUs. :D < 1247166956 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, how many gigs of RAM? 256G? < 1247166960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm thinkin' a 2xNehalem Xeon system with, oh, 128GB of RAM? You can get 4GB sticks of DDR3, they're just über-expensive. < 1247166966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it was 128. < 1247166967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1247166985 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't you get 4xNehalem systems now? < 1247166991 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, not yet < 1247167001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I retract my previous criticism of hyperthreading < 1247167007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the benchmarks show it can almost double performance < 1247167010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't seen it be slower < 1247167025 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, and 4xASUS Mars in Quad-SLI. What's an ASUS Mars? Two GTX 285s (the best single gaming GPU on the market) stuck together. < 1247167025 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Guess Intel decided to stick enough cache in those chips, then. < 1247167048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8 GPUs, bitch. Talk about number crunching. < 1247167085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even "Limited Edition". < 1247167094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, and it has 4GB of graphics memory. < 1247167104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that, Quadro and Tesla? You thought you could maybe beat it with RAM? < 1247167106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How cute! < 1247167115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's a single card) < 1247167130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16GB of graphics memory in total. That's more than the RAM I'm putting in my new rig... < 1247167165 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you say 18x DDR3 slots is a good idea? :P < 1247167187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, that's it, I'm opening a new window on the 'egg. < 1247167199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time to drool over exorbitant amounts of money. < 1247167218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's questionable whether we even need to bother with hard drives :-D < 1247167239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: we could have one of those PCIe SSDs, and use a few SATA SSDs in RAID-0 to just get a driver and boot into them < 1247167277 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It appears difficult to get a mobo with 4 PCIe x16 slots. < 1247167285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Meh, we can sort that out later. < 1247167293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 18x DDR3 sounds nice; would be nice to have more but oh well < 1247167307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we can find 8GB sticks of DDR3 that's 144GB < 1247167312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dunno if we can though < 1247167324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: massively more ram won't really help performance appreciably in a lot of things < 1247167333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :past like 100GB it'll just be minor < 1247167371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Do you think you can get PCIe expansion cards? < 1247167380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1247167393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PCI Express 2.0 x 16 1 x PCI-E x16 (Gen2 x16 Link) (Auto switch to x8 Link if slot 4 is occupied) < 1247167394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 x PCI-E x16 (Gen2 x8 Link) < 1247167396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 x PCI-E x16 (Gen2 x16 Link) (Auto turn off if slot 6 is occupied) < 1247167398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 x PCI-E x16 (Gen2 x16 Link for 1U Full-Height/Full-Length Card) (Auto turn off if slot 5 is occupied, MIO supported) < 1247167404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's 3xPCIex8 < 1247167411 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a system with 7 PCIe slots (x8, but they're x16 slots). < 1247167423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: x8 isn't acceptable < 1247167429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE NEED GRAPHICS BANDWIDTH! < 1247167476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the nehalem server mobos kind of suck tbh < 1247167499 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They do. < 1247167509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 2x4corenehalem w/ HT is probably gonna be better than 4x4coreopteron < 1247167540 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4x6 Opterons, you mean. < 1247167563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Mh. There's more to life than cores; if we wanna do massively parallel stuff we got the gfx cards < 1247167591 0 :icefox!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still in one box? Do you push it out to multiple boxes? < 1247167594 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, there's only two motherboards with 4 x16 slots. They're both for Opterons. ;p < 1247167601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :icefox: One box; it may be 12U though. < 1247167616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The server nehalem mobos, btw, don't support >1333mhz ram. But I doubt the Opteron boards do either. < 1247167622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, consumer boards are one-processor. < 1247167635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where can a mad rich person get a break? /sig < 1247167636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h < 1247167645 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMD does consumer two-processor boards. < 1247167663 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because they're silly like that) < 1247167664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But that's only 8 threads vs 16 < 1247167680 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12 threads. < 1247167694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Do Opterons work in consumer boards? I doubt. < 1247167707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The two-processor boards are Socket F. < 1247167720 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, yes, they do. < 1247167738 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Nehalem Xeon sockets are the Core i7 sockets, but they still don't work together due to QPI. < 1247167757 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMD doesn't do that stupid shit. < 1247167787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: For values of stupid shit equal to "not charging the consumers more for features they don't need" < 1247167803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=22&name=AMD-Motherboards ;; I see no dual-sockets < 1247167811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember we need AM3 & DDR3. < 1247167827 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm. < 1247167847 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this is pointless: there's a 6-core Xeon. < 1247167859 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117176 < 1247167945 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... It's socket 604. Why? < 1247167955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's not Nehalem. < 1247167960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Therefore, it's worthless. < 1247167980 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally. < 1247168085 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1247168496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Maybe we should just set the rig's price at $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 — the cost to get a whole 3d printer that can print an uber-rig designed and made < 1247168570 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: At that price point, I want a Von Neumman replicator or a universal Turing machine. < 1247168582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tough < 1247168614 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at that price point i would throw in FTL travel and communication because you're going to need it just to collect the money :D < 1247168637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's only 2500000000 bill gateses < 1247168668 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Fine, fine. I want the USS Enterprise. < 1247168687 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (/2500000000).read.filter(/=',')$"1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000" < 1247168688 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 4.0e20 < 1247168704 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> nub ',' "1,000,000" < 1247168705 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `[a]' < 1247168708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t nub < 1247168708 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall a. (Eq a) => [a] -> [a] < 1247168711 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, hi, Lambdabot. < 1247168714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1247168714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1247168723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (Eq a) => a -> [a] -> [a] < 1247168723 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List delete :: Eq a => a -> [a] -> [a] < 1247168724 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List intersperse :: a -> [a] -> [a] < 1247168724 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List (\\) :: Eq a => [a] -> [a] -> [a] < 1247168731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> delete ',' "1,000,000" < 1247168732 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1000,000" < 1247168736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............. < 1247168739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not like that, lambdabot. < 1247168745 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "," \\ "1,000,000" < 1247168746 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "" < 1247168750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1247168756 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's for sets < 1247168765 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> "1,000,000" \\ "," < 1247168766 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1000,000" < 1247168780 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither works properly when it's not a set < 1247168796 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [x | x<-"1,000,000", x != ','] < 1247168798 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `!=' < 1247168803 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> [x | x<-"1,000,000", x /= ','] < 1247168803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : pikhq: 18x DDR3 sounds nice; would be nice to have more but oh well <-- WTH are the dimensions of that mobo... < 1247168804 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1000000" < 1247168814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hiwc < 1247168815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Regular high-end server size. < 1247168818 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Absurd. < 1247168839 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, $4.0e20 is quite a bit more than bill gates has < 1247168840 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> filter (/=',') "1,000,000" < 1247168841 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1000000" < 1247168843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHA WOW. Unix time hit 2^30 on 2004-01-10…………… at 13:37. < 1247168843 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There. < 1247168844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, remind me what those dimensions were? < 1247168849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: hi < 1247168856 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: a bit bigger than eATX. < 1247168870 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: er, that's what i started with < 1247168879 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, so it is. < 1247168958 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle Char -> String -> String < 1247168959 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Distribution.Simple.PreProcess.Unlit plain :: String -> String -> String < 1247168959 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List insert :: Ord a => a -> [a] -> [a] < 1247168959 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List delete :: Eq a => a -> [a] -> [a] < 1247168972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's Eq a=>a->[a]->[a] < 1247169001 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, hoogle generalizes < 1247169008 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is. < 1247169142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Where can a mad rich person get a break? /sig h <-- when he/she is rich enough to have the perfect mobo custom made :P < 1247169159 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> intersection "1,000,000" ['0'..'9'] < 1247169160 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Not in scope: `intersection' < 1247169165 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> intersect "1,000,000" ['0'..'9'] < 1247169167 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "1000000" < 1247169169 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1247169176 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip intersect "1,000,000" ['0'..'9'] < 1247169177 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "01" < 1247169185 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not overly commutative, there < 1247169202 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip intersect $ "1,000,000" ['0'..'9'] < 1247169204 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `t -> [a]' < 1247169213 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> flip . intersect $ "1,000,000" ['0'..'9'] < 1247169214 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `b -> c' against inferred type `[a]' < 1247169222 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is thinking wrong < 1247169228 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the $ needs to go before the _last_ argument < 1247169236 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, right. < 1247169241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that hoogle thing? < 1247169249 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (flip . intersect) "1,000,000" ['0'..'9'] < 1247169251 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `b -> c' against inferred type `[a]' < 1247169257 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (flip intersect) "1,000,000" ['0'..'9'] < 1247169259 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "01" < 1247169275 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: haskell library lookup < 1247169284 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways. < 1247169298 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can find functions matching a type < 1247169302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm ok < 1247169306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1247169308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl food < 1247169324 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle intersect < 1247169324 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List intersect :: Eq a => [a] -> [a] -> [a] < 1247169325 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List intersectBy :: (a -> a -> Bool) -> [a] -> [a] -> [a] < 1247169325 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.IntMap intersection :: IntMap a -> IntMap b -> IntMap a < 1247169330 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also by name < 1247169370 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1247169382 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if they removed @more < 1247169387 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help more < 1247169387 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : @more. Return more output from the bot buffer. < 1247169400 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle map < 1247169401 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude map :: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1247169401 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.ByteString map :: (Word8 -> Word8) -> ByteString -> ByteString < 1247169401 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.IntMap map :: (a -> b) -> IntMap a -> IntMap b < 1247169403 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@more < 1247169413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: @hoogle doesn't do @more. < 1247169414 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@help hoogle < 1247169414 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoogle . Haskell API Search for either names, or types. < 1247169419 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1247169422 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s stupid < 1247169428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so's your mom < 1247169451 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dead people usually are < 1247169540 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there is a command that _needs_ @more, you'd think it would be @hoogle < 1247169575 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't even give more hits in privmsg < 1247169585 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh it does have a web interface < 1247169636 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1247169636 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.Traversable fmapDefault :: Traversable t => (a -> b) -> t a -> t b < 1247169636 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude fmap :: Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1247169636 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Applicative (<$>) :: Functor f => (a -> b) -> f a -> f b < 1247169679 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1247169680 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prelude map :: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1247169680 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data.List map :: (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1247169680 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control.Parallel.Strategies parMap :: Strategy b -> (a -> b) -> [a] -> [b] < 1247169686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ieb wnterface < 1247169690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eb winterface < 1247169694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ebbing winter face < 1247169708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle ebb < 1247169708 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :package WebBits < 1247169724 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@hoogle tide < 1247169724 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No results found < 1247169751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : so's your mom dead people usually are <-- BRAINS! < 1247169760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1247169768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eats oerjan's mother's brain, absorbs the stupidity < 1247169771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurf durf why i do that < 1247169785 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, because you are already stupid? < 1247169785 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do you know who else marked their jokes that were in bad taste? < 1247169787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the HITLER. < 1247169791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He did THE HOLOCAUST. < 1247169799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...the HITLER? I didn't intend that. < 1247169800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Godwin! < 1247169803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I really did become stupider, huh. < 1247169808 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you LOSE because of the GODWIN < 1247169813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, indeed < 1247169830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Godwin is about the the Nazis and the Hitler. < 1247169837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ehird lost because of the Godwin. < 1247169847 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is it punironical when an atheist loses because of godwin? < 1247169859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ehird, which is the myself, did the loss because of the "the Godwin" thing. < 1247169863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: erm, howso? < 1247169867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's hitler got to do with atheism < 1247169879 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then it's a GodWin, get it? < 1247169894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1247169896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1247169899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. Now. < 1247169902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First things first. < 1247169907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rips oerjan's skull apart. < 1247169907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And < 1247169917 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION punches oerjan's eyeballs, then blends them while still connected. < 1247169925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rips off all non-headular limbs of oerjan. < 1247169933 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :refreshing < 1247169936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION cuts off all of oerjan's remaining skin. < 1247169946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION squishes oerjan's brain, lobotomizes repeatedly. < 1247169954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION blends oerjan's brain. < 1247169966 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Will It Blend?" < 1247169967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION evaporates the remaining skin, then liquidizes the gas, then freezes the gas, then poops on it. < 1247169978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION melts the result, throws it in the sewer. < 1247169981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A job well done. < 1247170037 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1247170039 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now the atheist loses again, because the fact i can still talk is proof of the existence of a soul < 1247170054 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1247170102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I think it's proof that the body I destroyed was a dud, and you are in fact an AI. < 1247170120 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that could be < 1247170133 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, i cannot prove that i am not an AI, even to myself < 1247170257 0 :SimonRC!n=sc@fof.durge.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1247170260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yudkowsky would not be pleased < 1247170279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, No definitions were found for punironical. < 1247170284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what the hell does that work mean < 1247170289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH < 1247170297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All your family are dead because you caused that tornado. < 1247170365 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: why not? it would mean the singularity has already happened, and not completely unfriendly. although not complete friendly either, alas. < 1247170374 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ly < 1247170389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about that turing test thingy... Someone should do it but hook up either two AIs or two humans. The person talking to them would become very confused. < 1247170398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you don't know you're an AI you can't self-modify < 1247170407 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's true < 1247170407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: two humans is the whole point of the turing test, dude. < 1247170418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and two AIs just generates blabber; it's been done < 1247170419 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least not very efficiently < 1247170421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feedback loop type stuff < 1247170440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes.. but I meant for the tester to talk to < 1247170446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :two different AIs of course < 1247170453 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not AIs < 1247170454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boring. < 1247170466 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i was not implying _i_ was the superhuman AI, btw, but if AIs exist it's likely a superhuman AI has created them < 1247170470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need a larger sample size than two, and if it's big enough, it'll just give rubbish results < 1247170471 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you could decide which is the most human one < 1247170483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is supposed to be a practical joke < 1247170484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1247170486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-_- < 1247170498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, still: oerjan, No definitions were found for punironical. < 1247170504 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm well that doesn't hold true dor a short while < 1247170507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It wouldn't be funny though. < 1247170513 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's because it was made up on the spot < 1247170516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you tell AnMaster he's an idiot just one time plz? < 1247170517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darn < 1247170523 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah ok < 1247170547 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i don't believe in doing that, although i sometimes slip up < 1247170575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you're an idiot! < 1247170598 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't say < 1247170611 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i'm aware of that < 1247170621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you are not an idiot < 1247170631 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idiot and genius at the same time, dependent on subject < 1247170674 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well probably not in the clinical sense :D < 1247170687 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm. I think that one issue ehird is having is not knowing the difference between "idiot" and "smart but lacking knowledge in this specific area" < 1247170699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was joking. you idiot. < 1247170710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1247170710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: the latter isn't a joke, but do not imply "therefore".) < 1247170718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes it was a joke < 1247170727 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you are metajoking that it wasn't a joke < 1247170734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you idiot." directed at you wasn't a joke, I just implied no causation. < 1247170766 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/dor/for/ < 1247170774 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theredore < 1247170780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was that replacing? < 1247170790 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :way up there < 1247171050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Prepared for a massive WTF? < 1247171062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Using the default Firefox theme instead of the more mac-like one, the menus are now curved. < 1247171065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT < 1247171077 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Wha? < 1247171120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :screenshot < 1247171123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really < 1247171132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The menus are meant to be curved. < 1247171141 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in 3.5? < 1247171146 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm so not going to switch < 1247171150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I want a screenshot < 1247171153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It happened in every version. < 1247171158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It's only on mac too, stop being stupid. < 1247171165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh ok < 1247171169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, a screenshot please < 1247171177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See any_OSX_screenshot_ever. < 1247171190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, Leopard. < 1247171234 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Leopard-stacks-fan-grid.png ? < 1247171255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to assume you're joking and not being purposefully dense. < 1247171266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So let me congratulate you on furthering the field of Jokes That Aren't Funny. < 1247171278 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, probably. can't find a screenshot of the menus open though < 1247171319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries Grapher.app after seeing it in that screenshot, likes it. < 1247171322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/,/;/ < 1247171344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can type 'y=x/2' and it looks like TeX output as I type. < 1247171355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old < 1247171369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even OS 9 had it < 1247171398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I know; and I know the history to it too. < 1247171403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's very nice nowadays too. < 1247171413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm assuming you know its fun story.) < 1247171420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no? < 1247171433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://www.nucalc.com/Story/ < 1247171434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Was that the one written by a guy who was technically not an Apple employee? < 1247171440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Two guys, and yep. < 1247171442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After they were fired. < 1247171447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: (Read it all, it's hilarious.) < 1247171453 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that was a fun story. < 1247171536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, the 3D plots are great. < 1247171607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"She didn't ask who I was and let him keep his office and badge. In turn, I told people that I was reporting to him. Since that left no managers in the loop, we had no meetings and could be extremely productive." <-- :D < 1247172184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ha, ha... the menu dims the stuff behind it a bit like it should, but doesn't blur it < 1247172190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's so obvious they're drawing it manually... < 1247172533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'in the Spinal Tap idiom, we said, "OK, this one goes to eleven."' <-- ehird, can you explain this? < 1247172545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but so can Google, with less energy. < 1247172563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_Spinal_Tap < 1247172576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Specifically: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVKWCpNFhY < 1247172683 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You see, it goes to 11. That's 1 more than 10. < 1247172690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1247172694 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I found it < 1247172701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But... why not make the top one 10, and make that a bit louder? < 1247172706 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's Spin̈al Tap. < 1247172714 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It goes to 11. < 1247172720 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, no dot over the i < 1247172724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: This Is Spın̈al Tap, actually. < 1247172725 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One louder. < 1247172725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and to make a joke breaking comment: depends on the scale of the numbers < 1247172727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The band is called Spinal Tap. < 1247172733 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1247172740 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spın̈al Tap. < 1247172741 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I said that already < 1247172746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the band is Spinal Tap. < 1247172753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The documentary is This Is Spın̈al Tap. < 1247172762 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh. < 1247172805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.ThisIsSpinalTap too btw < 1247172961 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We wanted to release a Windows version as part of Windows 98, but sadly, Microsoft has effective building security." <-- heheh < 1247174606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1247174616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a spammer who stopped spamming when asked nicely < 1247174621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in #kde < 1247174624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how unusual < 1247174677 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually a feral child, who grew up in a spammer hive. this is the first time anyone told him that spam isn't always wanted. < 1247174695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: xD < 1247174698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: xD < 1247174717 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hheh < 1247174718 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh* < 1247174940 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1247179560 0 :GreaseMonkey!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1247180064 0 :DarkPants!n=gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1247180069 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247180381 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1247180383 0 :DarkPants!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :GreaseMonkey < 1247181149 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247181510 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1247182370 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1247182399 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1247183651 0 :immibis!n=IceChat7@125-236-168-93.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1247183891 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1247183948 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric