< 1248048301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doo doo doo. < 1248048326 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1248048332 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1248048333 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1| I've always wanted to kill someone. >.> < 1248048391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1248048392 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1| I've always wanted to kill someone. >.> < 1248048395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1248048395 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1| I've always wanted to kill someone. >.> < 1248048402 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1248048403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: it's a bit single-minded, don't you think? < 1248048410 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote GKennethR < 1248048411 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8| GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. 9| His body should be given to science. < 1248048415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1248048418 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dobleve te efe? < 1248048419 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1248048421 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1| I've always wanted to kill someone. >.> < 1248048423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wtf at that cutoff < 1248048425 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be random ... < 1248048426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: 8| GKennethR: he should be told that you should always ask someone before killing them. 9| His body should be given to science. < 1248048431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248048436 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 2| < 1248048437 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248048438 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 2 < 1248048439 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2| I used computational linguistics to kill her. < 1248048453 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!swedish butt < 1248048453 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boott < 1248048468 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/quote < 1248048469 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ DB="sqlite3 quotes/quote.db" \ \ if [ "$1" ] \ then \ ARG=$1 \ ID=$((ARG+0)) \ if [ "$ID" = "$ARG" ] \ then \ $DB 'SELECT id,quote FROM quotes WHERE id='$ID \ else \ ARG=`echo "$ARG" | sed 's/'\''/'\'\''/g'` \ $DB 'SELECT id,quote FROM quotes WHERE quote LIKE < 1248048477 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :English doesn't have a good way to represent the [y] sound. < 1248048499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Status: Synchronising... < 1248048499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Downloaded 4313 messages < 1248048501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1248048503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you disconnect now, you will have access to mail back to 1 June 2009. < 1248048505 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go into Unstable Connection Mode < 1248048511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's like TWO MONTHS MINUS TEN DAYS. < 1248048535 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that more or less than you were expecting? < 1248048600 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ĉat bin/run < 1248048607 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION laughs at Warrigal
< 1248048609 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will never stop rocking.
< 1248048614 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/run < 1248048615 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248048633 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"`run" isn't a binary < 1248048637 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither is `fetch or `help < 1248048647 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ĉat bin/fetch bin/help < 1248048653 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will never, ever stop rocking.
< 1248048655 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/fetch bin/help < 1248048656 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248048668 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And bin/"fetch bin/help" is definitely not a file :P < 1248048694 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo `a `b ĉ ð ə ſ ` `h `i `j χ `l `m ŋ `o φ `q ɚ ʃ þ `u `v `w `x `y `z < 1248048695 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`a `b ĉ ð ə ſ ` `h `i `j χ `l `m ŋ `o φ `q ɚ ʃ þ `u `v `w `x `y `z < 1248048753 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Should I just assign a, b, h, i, j, l, m, o, q, u, v, w, x, y and z randomly so that I will mess up all the time instead of just half the time? < 1248048776 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should set `y and `Y to be ψ and Ψ. < 1248051492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahaha, amazon.co.uk stock a Mac Pro with 1GB of memory. < 1248051495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POWERHOUSE < 1248051516 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know whether 1GB is a lot nowadays < 1248051530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 1GB isn't even enough for a laptop. < 1248051566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: For a Mac Pro, you'd be looking at 6GB at the lowest, 8GB to 12GB average and 24GB upper < 1248051592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one listed has a quad-core Xeon processor with it, so it's rather ridiculous. < 1248051600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be an utter waste. < 1248051667 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1GB is not much. < 1248051681 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4GB is $50 or less. < 1248051682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah. Even in a bloody netbook I'd stick 2GB in. < 1248051713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1GB in a high-end, boutique workstation with a quad-core processor is just unbelievably ridiculous. < 1248051726 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Lemme put it this way: my 5 year old system that I just upgraded from had 1GB of RAM. < 1248051741 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it wasn't a particularly good system 5 years ago. < 1248051768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Note that ais523 has gone on record saying something along the lines of "a few years ago I'd expect to pay £500 for a computer (laptop); now i'd expect to pay about £200-£300" < 1248051779 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248051786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Talking about anything high-end may be lost in translation. < 1248051810 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: High-end? 4G isn't high-end, it's what I'd expect in a $300 computer. < 1248051813 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this one cost £420, along with things like the case and the external floppy drive < 1248051823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It CAME WITH A CASE? < 1248051824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW! < 1248051833 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that was bought separately < 1248051837 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I only remember the total cost < 1248051880 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Let's put this in perspective for you: 4G of RAM is $50. A quad core processor starts at roughly $100 and works its way up from there. A 1TB HD is about $80. < 1248051891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah, said machine also came with a 250GB drive. < 1248051896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your concept of "high end" by now is everyone's concept of "cheap computer". < 1248051898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...which is what I have in this consumer-level machine. < 1248051918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, that's clever < 1248051930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a flashing fake banner ad saying "NO JOKE!! YOU WON 1 MILLION DOLLARS!!" < 1248051930 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't get why people end up needing all that extra space; are the programs they run really bloated? < 1248051933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...on an ad blocker site < 1248051940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Uhh, it's not programs that take up the space. < 1248051952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Think TV, movies, music, raw data dumps. < 1248051953 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My hard drive is mostly empty right now, but. < 1248051957 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, the data formats they use being bloated counts as program bloat to me < 1248051967 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, TV shouldn't take up disk space, just bandwidth < 1248051972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248051974 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you're in the habit of recording everything you watch < 1248051974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TV episodes. < 1248051977 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :du -h | tail -n 1 < 1248051979 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :156G video < 1248051984 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. du -h video < 1248051990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yeah, I looooooooove my watching schedule being dictated by the TV companies. < 1248051995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would I ever want to have a personal library. < 1248052005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After all, it's not popular; nobody buys DVDs, after all. < 1248052022 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get really annoyed at people who watch the same TV program over and over again < 1248052031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How dare they < 1248052033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such insolence? < 1248052042 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of ~/video/ is a queue of things that I have yet to watch. < 1248052049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever heard of hedonism? < 1248052056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If they like watching it again, why not? < 1248052062 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(copied via SMB from other people's hard drives at college) < 1248052074 0 :Halph!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248052077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: anyway, there's a huge cultural gap. You don't even like starting a "bloated" modern browser. < 1248052097 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's highly unlikely it would be possible to quickly explain to you why high-end machines are needed. < 1248052105 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even I, the freak that uses Ratpoison most of the time, use a modern browser. < 1248052116 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I use Firefox mostly < 1248052117 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, it's a modern browser with a freakish interface, but that's beside the point. < 1248052132 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I used Epiphany for a while while Firefox 3 was broken on Linux < 1248052136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what ais523 would do if told to edit an HD movie. < 1248052151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cut the tape up and stick it back together again with sellotape? < 1248052155 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still disappointed that that doesn't work < 1248052160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it used to < 1248052169 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Works for anything on DVHS. < 1248052169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm sorry to be the bringer of bad news, but most HD movies are shot with digital cameras. < 1248052170 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1248052175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dun dun DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN < 1248052210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, most people don't go around editing large videos < 1248052212 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: most things are not on D-VHS. Shame, too. Bluray quality, on VHS tapes, in the 90s? Fuck yeah.) < 1248052217 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why HD? most screens can't handle that anyway < 1248052220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :......... < 1248052223 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248052225 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Any screen above 1280x768 can handle HD. < 1248052233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Also, ever heard of a thing called CINEMA? < 1248052240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They project high-resolution movies on huuuuuuuge screens. < 1248052245 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've had a monitor that can handle HD video for 15 years now. < 1248052246 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I used to go there occasionally < 1248052259 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people wouldn't take their computers to the cinema to persuade them to show videos stored there, though < 1248052260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, some of us don't like being constrained by our hardware. < 1248052266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of us don't like waiting 3 seconds for basic operations to be completed. < 1248052268 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, HD video editing is getting ridiculously common. < 1248052270 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor would the cinema likely accept the request < 1248052277 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of su just don't like hating our computers; they should work, and work fast < 1248052279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*us < 1248052285 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HD video cameras are not too expensive, and Youtube does HD video nowadays. < 1248052286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of us do non-trivial computation tasks. < 1248052294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because we can; maybe because we want to; maybe for a greater good. < 1248052297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't matter. < 1248052313 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You're approximately 10 years behind the upgrade curve, I think. ;) < 1248052317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you told me to do anything on the computer you're using right now, I'd likely be throwing it out of the window within a few hours. < 1248052330 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Using it as a router? < 1248052331 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: don't, I like this one < 1248052334 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's fine for programming on < 1248052341 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Specs? < 1248052345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a computer's own limitations and foibles affect what I'm doing to the point of actually hampering it or changing my workflow, that computer is as good as program. < 1248052347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248052350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/program/broken/ < 1248052351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO I DO THAT < 1248052362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO I PRONOUNCE WORDS BEFORE TYPING THEM OR SOMETHING < 1248052362 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: But, man. A Mac Pro with 1G RAM? < 1248052363 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about 1G memory, according to top < 1248052363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1248052366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I know :-D < 1248052371 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :processor speed, I don't know offhand; it's a Celeron M < 1248052373 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know they made 1G DDR3 RAM. < 1248052379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's not ddr3 < 1248052380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: /proc/cpuinfo < 1248052381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :last generation < 1248052390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Core architecture (= Core 2) < 1248052395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Core brand = NetBurst, I think) < 1248052398 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1595 MHz processor speed < 1248052400 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I was only faintly aware they made 1G DDR2 RAM. < 1248052404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 1.5GHz? < 1248052405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maaaaaaaan. < 1248052409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's speeeeeeeeeeeeed. < 1248052412 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just upgraded from that. < 1248052412 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 MB cache < 1248052422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: How many cores? < 1248052431 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1, I think < 1248052450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Oh god, if I ever get into a situation where I ask to use your computer, please hit me over the head with a cluebat. < 1248052452 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously, your system is about on par with a netbook, performance-wise. < 1248052457 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And sucks a lot more power. < 1248052463 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: A gigantic netbook that takes up floorspace! < 1248052473 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Celeron-M implies a laptop. < 1248052477 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the strange thing is, this is powerful enough for most of the things I want to do < 1248052480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it is a laptop < 1248052481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: He bought the case separately. < 1248052483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248052487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you assembled your own laptop? < 1248052492 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I didn't < 1248052497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...then...? < 1248052501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of the Dell ones which came with Linux preinstalled < 1248052504 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a Windows XP manual < 1248052509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You said something you bought a case yourself. < 1248052510 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I mean, the case to carry it around in < 1248052518 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the CPU case < 1248052518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1248052523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CPU case"? < 1248052524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seriously? < 1248052536 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you strike me as someone who's never tried to transport a laptop to work every day... < 1248052549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh. < 1248052550 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"CPU case". < 1248052554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't just contain a CPU. < 1248052556 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's criticising your terminology. < 1248052561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it also contains a motherboard and drives, etc < 1248052565 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248052567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although not always < 1248052570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'ma start calling it a RAM case. < 1248052574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It contains RAM, after all. < 1248052574 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1248052580 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1248052584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although, not always < 1248052587 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer calling it an Internet case. < 1248052592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gremlin case. < 1248052594 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure that in some systems, you plug the RAM in the side < 1248052595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's how my computer works. < 1248052597 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As correct. < 1248052599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gremlins. Gremlin electrons. < 1248052604 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've never yet seen a system with an external motherboard, though < 1248052604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:16 ais523: I'm pretty sure that in some systems, you plug the RAM in the side < 1248052606 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ... < 1248052606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaaaaaat < 1248052607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1248052611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm fairly sure that's completely false. < 1248052617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, not fairly sure. Entirely sure. < 1248052621 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old laptops used to, they had some internal RAM < 1248052628 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, imagine it's the year 2000. < 1248052628 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but to get a decent amount you used external RAM too < 1248052632 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're using a C64. < 1248052634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a laptop if you can't fit it on your lap, ais523. < 1248052646 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I can, though < 1248052649 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the analogy. < 1248052650 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just normally don't, a table is a lot more stable < 1248052651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, an 80s laptop? < 1248052659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Those are the only ones that'll have external ram. < 1248052661 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oh, right. 80s *laptop*. < 1248052672 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, this isn't that old; it came with Ubuntu Feisty < 1248052674 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are not laptops. :P < 1248052678 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which therefore must have existed at the time I bought it < 1248052686 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was bottom-end at the time, though < 1248052690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"80s laptop: It Can Fit Into A Briefcase I Guess, If You Have A Really Big Briefcase And Are Also As Strong As The Hulk" < 1248052700 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Also, has a CRT. < 1248052702 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248052707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But itcanfitintoabriefcaseiguessifyouhaveareallybigbriefcaseandarealsoasstrongasthehulktop wasn't as catchy. < 1248052719 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 5 releases ago. < 1248052732 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You... Seriously bought that system 2 years ago. < 1248052734 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, 4 < 1248052736 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Karmic isn't out yet < 1248052753 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I feel no need to buy high-end laptops, modern technology works on lower- and lower- end things as time goes on < 1248052775 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, if it weren't for things like video editing and Windows driving specs up, probably hardware would become less powerful over time as the software got better < 1248052784 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's worth noting that if we went buy the "but Joe Sixpack doesn't need to do any more than word processing and email" argument, we'd be using 1984 Macintoshes. < 1248052795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was measured; word processing tasks were just about equal with the Macintosh as on a modern system. < 1248052800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes the Mac beat it. < 1248052800 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's not about what Joe Sixpack wants to do; it's about what /I/ want to do < 1248052814 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You really should've gotten a netbook. < 1248052814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but that doesn't mean that high end machines aren't useful for most people < 1248052820 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really, truly, epicly. < 1248052821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said that; it's not true < 1248052824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the exception, really < 1248052826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: they didn't exist then, it was just before they started to be invented < 1248052838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: eee pc has been out since early 2007 or so < 1248052840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe before that. < 1248052844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly it was 7" < 1248052855 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Roughly the same specs, though. < 1248052879 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... this was bought in october or november 2007, I think < 1248052909 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm suspecting you also overpayed. < 1248052930 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry; I knew I was overpaying, so I didn't mind so mcuh < 1248052932 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*much < 1248052940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248052951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you're saying that you bought this because you didn't need any more < 1248052952 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... You overpayed for an underspecced system. < 1248052953 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet you also paid more for it < 1248052963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this failure in rationality apparent to you? < 1248052964 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE TERRIBLE AT MAKING PURCHASING DECISIONS < 1248052967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1248052976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's buy a commodore 64 for £10,000. < 1248052976 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it was a case of not having to think as much when buying it < 1248052979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't need anything more. < 1248053003 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think "not thinking when making a purchase" is perfectly consistent with "being really bad at making purchasing decisions". < 1248053008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I suspect a correlation... < 1248053010 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Talk to me again in a few hundred years and maybe I will. :P < 1248053027 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I hardly ever buy anything but food < 1248053046 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Become a breatharian; you won't have to eat food.* < 1248053049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*You might die though. < 1248053056 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm the sort of person who effectively tries to encourage a recession < 1248053066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure the economy just loves you. < 1248053073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But if you're actively trying for that, err, why?) < 1248053080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Apart from, y'know, being a discordian.) < 1248053086 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, by spending more money for fewer goods? < 1248053099 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not encouraging a recession, that's simulating one, buddy. < 1248053108 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just simulating it for yourself. < 1248053112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Simulated recession: just add water < 1248053119 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: by not buying anything unless I actually want it < 1248053124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm surprised how many people seem to break that rule < 1248053130 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just shop for no apparent reason < 1248053137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody sane does that. < 1248053140 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Sure. And you then waste money by spending more for less. < 1248053141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you're talking to too many idiots < 1248053153 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: He's talking to too many USians. < 1248053161 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a difference :) < 1248053180 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, many Americans spend for the sake of spending. < 1248053185 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Explains quite a bit. < 1248053190 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, when it comes to things that are for fun, rather than actually needed (such as meals in restaurants), I don't enjoy them if I think they're too expensive < 1248053192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idiots do that too < 1248053200 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it's sort of an economic equilibrium thing < 1248053207 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Then why are you enjoying your computer? < 1248053213 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pay more for something if I think it's underpriced (I've been known to refuse discounts in shops before) < 1248053214 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You spent too much. < 1248053215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i'd class that under psychological issues... < 1248053220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :money does exist to be spent, you know < 1248053222 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not buy at all if I think it's overpriced < 1248053234 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... You pay more if you think it's underpriced. < 1248053236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you just like looking at bank accounts sitting at a constant figure < 1248053238 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, money just exists as a sort of scorecard as how well people are doing at capitalism < 1248053242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You, sir, fail at rational thinking. < 1248053253 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: why can't I pay more? < 1248053259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so you think you should work your ass off for years, and just buy the bare minimum of food < 1248053270 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is it me who's failing at rational thinking? < 1248053271 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Money is a tool. < 1248053274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if everyone applied your logic, the whole world would be full of deadbeats. < 1248053285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because why earn more money if your life will be exactly the same but with more effort? < 1248053288 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasting money is using this tool poorly. < 1248053288 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back when bartering was around, people paid what they thought things were worth < 1248053303 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, exactly < 1248053305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's totally not how bartering works psychologically at all, imo < 1248053308 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dislike the need to earn money at all < 1248053316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: OK; have fun with your communist society. < 1248053319 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, they paid what they could convince the other party to take. < 1248053327 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You fail at economics, too. < 1248053334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll assume you hate all meritocracies, then, ais523; after all, capitalism is an emulation of a meritocracy. < 1248053342 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: communism doesn't work because there are people who are too selfish around < 1248053346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, I disagree < 1248053351 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IME, the people who work harder earn less money < 1248053354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: So you don't want anybody to have to earn money, and you don't want communism. < 1248053356 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: The same is true of all economic systems. < 1248053361 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And forms of government. < 1248053366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering what, precisely, you'd prefer. < 1248053374 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: oh, I can be aware that no system at all works < 1248053385 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Actually, I'm just wondering what, exactly, he's thinking. < 1248053389 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :........................... < 1248053391 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF PEOPLE < 1248053393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: "These drugs are great." < 1248053402 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I don't take drugs, I dislike all forms of mind control < 1248053405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I don't do drugs < 1248053405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA < 1248053407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotcha < 1248053413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alcohol is, I suspect, one of them < 1248053418 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are topics you should always try to avoid. They are politics, economics, religion and programming languages. LEARN THE RULES. < 1248053430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If you hate every form of mind control... < 1248053433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume you don't eat food. < 1248053434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or drink. < 1248053438 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty much the strongest 'drug'/addictive substance I take is caffeine, and even then only in chocolate, and I'm annoyed about that < 1248053441 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: So, the 4 most important things in life. < 1248053442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: ;) < 1248053442 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or ever cause your sleep patterns to fall out. < 1248053447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait, you mention those regularly. < 1248053452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The latter, I mean.) < 1248053454 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: that doesn't mean I think it's a good thing! < 1248053455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, the former too.) < 1248053464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You have a choice! Stop eating; drinking. < 1248053465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Your behavior is highly irrational. < 1248053488 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More so than that of people who spend for the sake of spending -- which is amazing. < 1248053506 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I dislike death even more than being mind-controlled < 1248053521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: You also realise that firing neurons is mind control? < 1248053537 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's the standard process < 1248053546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :…by which to control a mind. < 1248053548 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop firing neurons. they deserve job security too! < 1248053559 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about neutrons? < 1248053560 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1248053561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: neurons shouldn't have a job; they shouldn't have to make money. < 1248053572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*smoooooooooth* < 1248053596 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that smoothly slithered straight over my head < 1248053620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all mimsy were the borogaves < 1248053630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and the nome raths outgrabe) < 1248053644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: are you misquoting Jabberwocky deliberately to annoy me? < 1248053653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: far too many things annoy you. < 1248053656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but no, I just have a bad memory. < 1248053667 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how easy it is to fire neutrons, actually, they are electrically neutral after all. well, if you don't need them to go in a particular direction... < 1248053716 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You merely need a source of radiation. < 1248053733 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but you cannot steer them < 1248053754 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the inside of neurons isn't electrically neutral < 1248053763 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they move around ions in order to do their signalling < 1248053776 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, we'd better change the subject; I worry that I'm starting to sound like zzo38 < 1248053777 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They may be aimed, though. < 1248053782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you are? < 1248053787 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1248053789 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think you are < 1248053794 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and zzo38 is great, but one is enough for the world < 1248053802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38 hurts my head < 1248053802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you're sounding less intelligent. :P < 1248053816 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: how so? < 1248053819 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you're just disagreeing with me < 1248053827 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could block in some directions, i guess < 1248053834 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: MASSIVELY IRRATIONAL BEHAVIOR < 1248053838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1248053841 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That. < 1248053845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: 2 vs 1; democracy wins again < 1248053850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty low voter turnout though. < 1248053856 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I don't believe that democracy makes things true < 1248053864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hmm. < 1248053865 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, I suspect hardly anyone believes that < 1248053866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: things such as "X is President"? < 1248053868 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GASAR. < 1248053874 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: not even that, sometimes < 1248053880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru dat < 1248053887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, prediction markets and other hiveminds have shown to be quite accurate < 1248053891 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, I meant voting doesn't change the current state of reality < 1248053894 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll bring it up to 2 vs. 2 by noting that my laptop only has 448 MB RAM < 1248053896 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I WANT A GASAR) < 1248053896 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree that it can be good at predicting < 1248053896 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very accurate, even < 1248053921 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: And how old is aforementioned laptop, and did you spend far too much money for it even though you could spend less to get more? < 1248053924 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but voting something to be true now doesn't make it true now, although it can sometimes indirectly change the future < 1248053942 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3 years, and i didn't pay for it :) < 1248053957 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so just slightly older than mine < 1248053980 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1248053984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: didn't pay for it = donated. < 1248053985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1248053988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was someone else's old laptop < 1248053991 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248053996 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, my dad bought it < 1248053997 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So, you're not saying much about his "I should spend more for things" point of view. ;) < 1248053999 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I've been using other people's old computers before I got this one < 1248054001 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you seriously think 448 MB of RAM is usual 3 years ago... < 1248054002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hm < 1248054011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't know they sold such low-end laptops < 1248054019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even backt hen < 1248054021 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: and remember, 1 GB of RAM was about standard for low-end laptops 2 years ago < 1248054033 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know that you don't pay enough attention to the low-end to know it exists, but it does < 1248054033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: only very low end ones < 1248054042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most people put in the extra £30 to have a system that isn't cripplingly useless < 1248054054 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I have a system that isn't cripplingly useless < 1248054055 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 448MB of RAM? Man. I had a 10 year old system with more than that. < 1248054057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i bought this computer with 1GB of RAM in 2006; it's consumer level; and I regretted it < 1248054069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spent £20 to have it at 2.5GB of RAM dec 08 < 1248054073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's far, far better < 1248054080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even low-end tasks < 1248054080 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm shocked that even makes a difference < 1248054085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it makes a huge difference < 1248054094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard drives are cripplingly slow < 1248054098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap is the devil < 1248054102 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modern kernels use RAM for a cache. < 1248054106 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hardly ever go into swap, though < 1248054120 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and most of the programs I use will be loaded close to startup < 1248054124 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hardly ever? Implies you don't have much caching going. < 1248054124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else are programming language interpreters < 1248054128 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or else are programs I just wrote < 1248054133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i don't think you realise how strange your OS usage is < 1248054137 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only the second could be sensibly cached < 1248054148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody uses the low-resource usage linux. nobody is conservative with their apps, preferring terminal apps. < 1248054156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean "nobody" in a statistical sense) < 1248054162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I know it isn't a common pattern; but why are you criticising me for picking a laptop that suits the way I use a laptop? < 1248054166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not. < 1248054170 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Well, I prefer terminal apps, but that's because I have odd tastes in UI. < 1248054175 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm criticizing you for saying that higher-end things are mostly useless. < 1248054198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an average LOW-END workload would be slow and painful on your machine < 1248054231 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do DVD encodes rather often, for example. < 1248054233 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I run Gentoo. < 1248054243 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this laptop doesn't even have DVD codecs installed < 1248054255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: you keep proving the point... < 1248054256 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248054266 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, what are DVD players for? < 1248054275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248054280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:44 ais523: after all, what are DVD players for? < 1248054282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm framing this. < 1248054284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm putting it on a shirt. < 1248054292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm setting up an online store where people can buy this on a shirt. < 1248054292 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have a quotedb, if you want to put it in there < 1248054302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm fairly sure we don't, actually. < 1248054313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite the fact that we used to have a link to it in the topic, it doesn't actually exist. < 1248054317 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hackego < 1248054326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That doesn't count; it has Sine too. < 1248054330 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was used earlier today; I don't know if you noticed or not < 1248054333 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and why doesn't it count? < 1248054336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has Sine too. < 1248054339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, this is far too mind-boggling for just a quote db. < 1248054341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't see any way you could claim that hackego's quotedb is not a quotedb < 1248054350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't an #esoteric quotedb < 1248054350 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you need an EXCLUSIVE quotedb :P < 1248054351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not OURS. < 1248054357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Shut up, it's irrelevant < 1248054358 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ours in the sense that we use it < 1248054362 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1248054362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This needs a whole business. < 1248054365 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: "We have a google" < 1248054375 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can use it if you'd like" < 1248054377 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: slightly weird phrasing I think, but not false < 1248054384 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made a shirt of something a friend said once: "This thing cannot not work, if it works." < 1248054397 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: I read that without the not first < 1248054398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was better. < 1248054435 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unicode needs hangman characters. < 1248054443 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Combining left arm < 1248054448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248054547 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose it will have to do: < 1248054555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote after all, what are DVD players for? < 1248054556 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :42| after all, what are DVD players for? < 1248054566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Now, did you actually mean that literally? Speak now or forever hold your pieces. < 1248054591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: it's a question < 1248054597 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you mean a question literally < 1248054599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice quote number < 1248054600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :42! < 1248054604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night really < 1248054604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: wat < 1248054612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's open to interpretation like all language. < 1248054617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now what the heck did you actually mean < 1248054617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1248054642 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I use my computer in lieu of a TV. < 1248054644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you can already play DVDs, why buy a computer for the purpose? < 1248054649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that's simple :P < 1248054656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You're meant to be ignoring me. < 1248054657 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's much nicer this way; I don't get ads and it doesn't afraid of anything. < 1248054662 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: IME computers aren't within sufficient range of a sofa to manage that < 1248054670 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, took you off on trial a few minutes ago < 1248054672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : TV tuner cards don't exist. < 1248054676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : BitTorrent doesn't exist. < 1248054684 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My computer has an HDMI out port... < 1248054687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Heck, legal download services don't exist. < 1248054687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too hard to find legal torrents < 1248054692 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As do most recent computers. < 1248054703 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't torrent at all, not even legally, because people would assume I was doing something illegal < 1248054723 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or that the person at the other end was doing something illegal; I've seen it argued that leeching is legal for you but illegal for the uploader) < 1248054723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248054727 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose next you'll tell me you voted BNP or something? < 1248054740 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I strongly disagree with the BNP's policies < 1248054754 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even ignoring the immigration policy that gets them into so much trouble, the other policies are all awful too < 1248054760 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like freaking Chewbacca on Endor: IT MAKES NO SENSE! IF CHEWBACCA IS ON ENDOR, YOU MUST ACQUIT! < 1248054766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I'm hearing you right, ais523... you shouldn't do something that is legal if it'll make Other People(TM) think it's illegal? < 1248054769 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they seem to want to make the UK into a police state < 1248054771 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, I mean, cease to be irrational. < 1248054776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MY MIND IS MELTING AND I WANT TO DIE ;_; < 1248054791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Anyway, piracy is legal in Sweden. Yarr. < 1248054793 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: yes, not when the people who give you your internet service have a clause requiring that all use must be legal < 1248054798 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise they might cut you off by mistake < 1248054801 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Also Spain. < 1248054811 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Portugal. Wait, I said filesharing, not drugs. < 1248054815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. < 1248054821 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still Spain. < 1248054833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shush, you < 1248054839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'twas a joke. < 1248055756 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll shush you! < 1248055764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH YEAH < 1248055768 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@ @elite @yow @arr < 1248055768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WELL SAY THAT TO MY FACE < 1248055769 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : LeOnA, i WanT +0 CONF3$z0rz T|-|ing5 +O yOU ... i \/\/4n+ 70 wR4P yoU In 4 5cArL3T rob3 7RI/\/\/\/\3d Wi+h P0|Y\/INyl C|-|l0RIDE ... i Wan7 T0 E/\/\pTY yOur ashtr4yz0rz ... < 1248055783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to empty your ash tray. < 1248055802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You should have done it like this: < 1248055805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@. elite . yow arr < 1248055806 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'/\/\ N0+ AN IRaNi4n!! I vo+ED 4 di4nNE FEiN$t3in!! < 1248055815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks more confusing and is PoInTfReE < 1248055815 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Totally. < 1248055889 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@. elite yow arr < 1248055889 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... i d0n'+ xn0W whY 8uT, zuDden1Y, I \/\/ant +o DIscu55 dE(1iNIn9 I.Q. leVELz wI+H a Blue ri8b0N $eN4T3 $UB-Co/\/\/\/\i7T3e! < 1248055984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or that. < 1248056975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION decides to learn Erlang, maybe.
< 1248057042 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Some of the nice parallelism constructs of Haskell without the monads? < 1248057113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/shrug < 1248057117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like learning languages. < 1248057163 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1248057540 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrubbery* < 1248057743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You will bring us a. < 1248057810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : __ _ < 1248057810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : / _` | < 1248057810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| (_| | < 1248057810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : \__,_| < 1248059353 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ### < 1248059354 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ######## < 1248059354 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ########## ##### < 1248059354 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : #### #### ###### < 1248059354 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## ## ## < 1248059355 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## ## # < 1248059356 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## ## ## < 1248059358 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ################## < 1248059361 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ################### < 1248059363 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ################## < 1248059364 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ## < 1248059367 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : # < 1248059389 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ < 1248059390 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ < 1248059390 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ < 1248059390 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ < 1248059390 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1248059403 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-94-40.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1248059413 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freenode has strict flood limits < 1248059420 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: Hi, Prince. < 1248059433 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, letter A. < 1248059435 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1248059449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks vaguely like the Prince symbol. < 1248059474 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that second a is dead. < 1248061852 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Convincing people that this sentence is true is the best thing anyone could do with their time. < 1248062109 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not true < 1248062682 0 :Halph!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1248063175 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248064247 0 :Halph!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :coppro < 1248064981 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1248065009 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did freenode-connect ask my version twice this time? < 1248065036 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alzheimer. < 1248065076 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I changed a few things in PHIRC to object-oriented to allow other protocols to be added using add-in files < 1248065103 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not enough abstraction. < 1248065109 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moar monads! Moar arrows! < 1248065152 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@quote hyper-monad < 1248065152 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jcreigh says: I've found learning Haskell makes me feel vastly inferior to Haskell coders. ("Oh,", they say, "That's just a fold over the hyper-monad fluxbox list. Here's the one-line replacement < 1248065153 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for your entire program.") < 1248065177 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each protocol class has the following members: $protocol_name start($args) stop($mode) send($cmd) receive($data) idle() process_entry($entry) spacebar() autoanswer($current) < 1248065187 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1248065315 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :process_entry is used to update the current channel based on what the user types (and can do other things too), spacebar is used if the user pushes space when the command-line is currently blank, autoanswer is used when that configuration option is set, IRC uses it to answer CTRL+A VERSION and stuff like that. < 1248065332 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I can figure out XMPP and make a add-in file for XMPP or for other protocols < 1248065346 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moar forkIO! < 1248065393 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Y'know, I can no longer look at (most) other languages and see anything interesting in them. I just think "Oh, that? Been meaning to look at that monad." < 1248065407 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically any one just has to convert IRC-like commands to format to send to the server, and convert things received from the server into IRC-like commands. < 1248065431 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately I do not understand XMPP. < 1248065439 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or in the case of, say, F#, "Oh, it's Haskell with a worse syntax." < 1248065447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: It's just a bunch of (absurd) XML. < 1248065513 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I can see that. I will read it and see if I can understand it enough to make a add-in file to support XMPP < 1248065568 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is, I don't know if the XML function in PHP can support partial data to send/receive, but I can try. < 1248065765 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, I can see now. The $is_final parameter can be false for parsing partial XML data. < 1248065855 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP is not the answer. PHP is the question. < 1248065863 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No is the answer. < 1248065930 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PHP is not the question. PHP is the answer. < 1248065935 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No is the question. < 1248065960 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248065965 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@yow < 1248065965 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but will I see the EASTER BUNNY in skintight leather at an IRON < 1248065966 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAIDEN concert? < 1248066039 0 :CESSMASTER!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that have to do with the airport in ottawa < 1248066091 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, both can only go downhill from here. < 1248066094 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I have also done other things that nobody likes, such as adding a Forth interpreter into MegaZeux. < 1248066164 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And what is that message about EASTER BUNNY and IRON MAIDEN and stuff for? < 1248066188 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@. yow yow < 1248066188 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOW!! Everybody out of the GENETIC POOL! < 1248066190 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random silly quote, i think from Zippy the Pinhead comic < 1248066294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lambdabot: i might already be. < 1248066323 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I make XMPP, is there a server I can make tests of the client with? < 1248066428 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xkcd :D < 1248066486 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XMPP seems a bit complicated, how many RFCs do I have to support? < 1248066502 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As a furry, I desire to see this leather easter bunny < 1248066515 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/23657/2094388230103413284S425x425Q85.jpg < 1248066517 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :related < 1248066623 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which other simpler internet chat protocols are there that I might want to try to implement sooner? < 1248067209 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248067354 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1248068322 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-12-111.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1248068748 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION suddenly loses his distaste for relative clauses of the form "which ".
< 1248068787 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where "which" implies "this" or "that", not "its".) < 1248068838 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cat ate the fish, despite which event I continued putting fish food in the fish bowl anyway. < 1248068849 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare: < 1248068862 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cat might eat the fish, in which case I will continue putting fish food in the fish bowl anyway. < 1248069072 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see any clauses of the form "which " up there < 1248069143 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you mean " which "? < 1248069158 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait no < 1248069170 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I think you were right. < 1248069174 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are " which " < 1248069186 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, indeed. < 1248069252 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" which ", even. < 1248069287 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so those are fine, at least. Can you think of a reason for using an actual "which ", then? < 1248069298 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess here's one: "He rode his bike, which fact I hate." < 1248069309 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not one < 1248069334 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248069334 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1248069334 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This, then: "He rode his bike, which fact is hated by me." < 1248069337 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's "which " in your words < 1248069354 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was < 1248069374 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1248069389 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A more natural example: "My maternal grandfather is dead, which fact saddens me greatly." < 1248069397 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm balking. Are you? < 1248069438 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly sounds victorian :D < 1248069443 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1248069655 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"My quantum teleportation reserve has run out, which fact means I'll have to exchange more methanol for it." < 1248069658 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1248069670 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248070563 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1248076208 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1248076280 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, I discovered today that due to a provincial program, I can borrow from the local University library without having to purchase a separate membership :) < 1248076518 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248076799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1248076800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1248076805 0 :augur!n=augur@71.196.114.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248076875 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@82.182.180.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248081180 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1248082787 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248083371 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248083493 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248083707 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248083707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248083707 0 :ineiros_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :hubbard.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1248083756 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-94-40.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1248083756 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1248083756 0 :ineiros_!n=ineiros@james.ics.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1248083900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :SendQ exceeded < 1248083947 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@d83-177-5-115.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248083970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248083988 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@d83-177-5-115.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248084125 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1248084228 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248086394 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248087099 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248088365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248088993 0 :nooga!n=nooga@188.33.39.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248089050 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiello < 1248089161 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1248090028 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:50 pikhq: Or in the case of, say, F#, "Oh, it's Haskell with a worse syntax." < 1248090033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Haskell/OCaml/ < 1248090047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and OCaml is just Haskell without laziness and with a different syntax. < 1248090048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1248090054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/worse syntax/.NET shit/ in the F# line < 1248090111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :04:47 Warrigal: The cat ate the fish, despite which event I continued putting fish food in the fish bowl anyway. < 1248090123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cat ate the fish; despite this event I continued putting fish food in the fish bowl anyway. < 1248091645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1248092922 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F# huh < 1248093588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :“Maverick Personal Trainer < 1248093588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Locks Himself in His Studio < 1248093589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 7 Months… and Creates < 1248093591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the World’s First Robot < 1248093593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that Automatically Makes < 1248093595 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fat Cells Self-Destruct! < 1248093597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ I love one-page spam sites. < 1248093959 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1248094013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're amusing. < 1248094042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm imagining an anthropomorphic, shiny metal robot staring really hard at your fat cells with its laser eyes. < 1248094045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pop. Pop. Pop. < 1248094266 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Robots hate fat guys < 1248094727 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only if they are programmed to... :-) < 1248097423 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248098594 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77.100.194.169 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248100922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't quote me on this, but IIRC, AMD's Sempron processors were faulty Athlon 64s with a few features turned off, and some of the Phenom tri-core processors are quad-cores with a faulty core disabled." < 1248100928 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm quoting them on that, but) < 1248100934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: pikhq: YOU HAVE FAULTY PROCESSORS < 1248100935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248100976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, reliable source? < 1248100985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit, so yes. :P < 1248100987 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't quote me on this" :P < 1248100990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i've heard it elsewhere though, iirc < 1248100992 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about semprons < 1248100996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not about the tri-cores, but it seems logical < 1248101002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all, x3 vs x4 is an odd product line distinction < 1248101010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd expect x3 vs x6 or x2 vs x4 < 1248101020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, iirc intel have done the same. But my sempron is older than even dual core athlon64s < 1248101032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AMD's Sempron processors were faulty Athlon 64s with a few features turned off" < 1248101034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, they weren't even announced back then < 1248101035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not core-related for them < 1248101061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i've never heard intel doing it, but both intel and amd just underclock processors that don't run as well at the higher ghz < 1248101063 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and I think it possibly varied. As far as I know the only major difference is much less cache < 1248101067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. a 3.06ghz processor that dies might run at 2.5ghz < 1248101072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so it drops down a segment < 1248101148 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway, a reliable source for Sempron 3300+ (Palermo), /proc/cpuinfo says cpu family: 15, model: 44, stepping: 2 < 1248101167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously they'd tweak those or whatever < 1248102173 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the tri-core thing has been officially announced somewhere too, and it's a reasonably sensible way to increase yield. Playstation 3 has that 7-"SPU" Cell, while the chip as designed would have 8 of those units, they just disable one. < 1248102195 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know anything about Sempron, though. < 1248102215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: why would they disable a cell if it's not defective? < 1248102221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the same cost, after all, and it's not like it's a retail component < 1248102222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's bundled < 1248102247 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a console; they can't really ship 7- and 8-core variants of it. < 1248102283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why not leave all of 'em on < 1248102301 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because then they'd have to throw away all the processors where only 7 of the 8 units work? < 1248102323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Playstation 3 has that 7-"SPU" Cell, while the chip as designed would have 8 of those units, they just disable one." didn't imply any being defective; context did but it was still a bit vague < 1248102348 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The point was on that "increase yield" part, really. < 1248102354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1248102358 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I left a bit too much implicit there, but anyway. < 1248102390 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1248102419 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least AMD can sell the working ones as Phenom X4's, which makes more common-sense. < 1248103562 0 :nooga!n=nooga@188.33.39.46 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248103690 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1248104969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that the Finder's connect-to-server dialog could do with a dropdown of available connection protocols instead of an opaque text field.
< 1248105014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solution: Enter foo://bar and you'll get; < 1248105031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"URLs should begin with afp://, at://, file://, ftp://, http://, https://, nfs://, smb://, cifs:// or vnc://." < 1248105042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I say "solution", I mean "kludge".) < 1248105062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if that's extensible. It'd be nice to add scp://, rsync:// and the like. < 1248105101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I know ExpanDrive does something like that and uses MacFUSE. < 1248105103 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i made simple grid system, would you join? < 1248105107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if it adds a protocol, though. < 1248105110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: A simple what now? < 1248105129 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :parallel computing contraption < 1248105140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1248105144 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: what's wrong with @home? < 1248105154 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't like it < 1248105173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably wouldn't because I don't like my cooling system to be running full-speed all the time. < 1248105212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn, ExpanDrive uses a separate UI for connecting to the servers < 1248105406 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been asked in the ADC Q&A thing; as long as that answer is still accurate (not sure if it is) it's not possibel: http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2004/qa1387.html < 1248105630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "and uses that to load and run the appropriate URLMount plug-in. The structure of a URLMount plug-in is not publicly documented (r. 3502170)." < 1248105636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you can do it, it just might break and Apple will be sad. < 1248105640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which applies to an awful lot of things… < 1248105677 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. The browsing part is more impossible. < 1248105695 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you just love the rdar:// URLs there? < 1248105711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rdar:// URLs are funny. < 1248105715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such a niche form of helpfulness. < 1248105732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I'm sure you could hack something into /Network < 1248105755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:/Network] % sudo touch butt < 1248105755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Password: < 1248105756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ehird:/Network] % ls < 1248105758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :butt < 1248105760 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not shown in Finder, it just scans, but... < 1248105782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it should be possible, dammit. :P < 1248105807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though, really, manually entering a protocol code? < 1248105812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's up with that dialog, Apple? < 1248106018 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's rotten < 1248106031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurf durf. < 1248106657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, someone who uses svn by using an sftp drive pointed to a working directory on the folder that the master copy is on < 1248106668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hereby give them the Totally Missing the Point Award 2008 < 1248106676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was in 2008 so there) < 1248106776 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1248106807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from the same post < 1248106808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in a work environment where all webdevelopment is on a shared ubuntu < 1248106809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :box that most people access through smb (one single user, for the most part) < 1248106810 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without any real problems. < 1248106812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they have one working directory < 1248106815 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on a remote server < 1248106820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and all connect to it to edit < 1248106822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as the same user < 1248106826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the same server as the master copy < 1248106833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THESE PEOPLE ARE RETARDED < 1248106947 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o-o < 1248106957 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even i'm brighter < 1248106962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248107330 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1248107339 0 :GregorR-L!n=gregor@pal-163-080.itap.purdue.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1248107346 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just noticed MacFUSE filesystem project template in my xcode < 1248107350 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder what's that < 1248107392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: MacFUSE lets you make custom filesystems stuff in userspace. < 1248107401 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248107404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you could, e.g. < 1248107420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have a wikipedia filesystem that has categories as folders with symlinks to the articles < 1248107421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1248107430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and be able to mount it and modify it and shit without being root < 1248107438 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1248107502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: It's, predictably, a port of FUSE, which is for Linux. < 1248107532 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhm < 1248107585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: uhm? < 1248107938 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that the FUSE API is rather well-supported these days
< 1248107947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, OK < 1248107961 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hell, even Hurd supports it -- and Hurd doesn't support anything! < 1248107970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hurd supports your mom. < 1248108006 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurd is turd < 1248108016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION clap. clap. clap.
< 1248108020 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... the FUSE API is practically a port of the entire concept behind the Hurd to Linux :P < 1248108034 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1248108040 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that the Hurd supports it is probably due to one 15-line C file. < 1248108045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: No, it mercifully omits the fucked up microkernel/daemon and user system. :P < 1248108056 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no < 1248108061 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hurd was a good idea < 1248108063 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Actually, 50 line header. < 1248108064 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WAS < 1248108072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microkernels suck. < 1248108080 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microkernels taste like candy < 1248108086 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :minix 3 might be cool < 1248108086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So does your mom. < 1248108091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I don't like her, GregorR-L. < 1248108091 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You're running on one. < 1248108102 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darwin micro? < 1248108105 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heeeee < 1248108107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ahem... OS X's underlying system is severely fucked up enough not to class as much of anything. < 1248108115 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1248108120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the perfect argument against incest. < 1248108124 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1248108128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Steve Jobs did start NeXT, after all…) < 1248108143 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OS X has Mach, which you'd THINK would support a microkernel, but instead supports one big fat macrokernel :P < 1248108158 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i used linux i had a bit of knowledge how this system works under the hood < 1248108165 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but now < 1248108171 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when i use OS X < 1248108178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: Step 1. Get employed by Apple. < 1248108179 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know anything < 1248108186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Step 2. Stop using OS X because the underpinnings are so horrific. < 1248108215 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Horrific is the wrong word. < 1248108220 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lovecraftian. < 1248108229 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :':E < 1248108237 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(WHY IS THERE XML IN MY INIT‽ WHY‽) < 1248108248 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plist < 1248108252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yeah, plist. < 1248108254 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : in ur init, initin ur system < 1248108256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plists used to use a plaintext format. < 1248108261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's stupid that they use XML now, but it's abstracted away. < 1248108268 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The plaintext format was like JSON.) < 1248108275 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i use plists that are visible as xml < 1248108279 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making them ... not plaintext? < 1248108288 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs more plain text. < 1248108290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Indeed; they're not *sane* XML. < 1248108295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of ..., it's < 1248108311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :barbaz < 1248108313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1248108317 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248108328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was a monumental screwup, changing to XML, but oh well < 1248108329 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Anyway, by the time you get to the .framework level in OS X, things start to level out sanely. < 1248108335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Underneath that... Not so much. < 1248108350 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Start to. < 1248108391 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, the low-level frameworks are a bit freaky. < 1248108395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the ones you actually deal with? Yum. < 1248108398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll have me some more of that. < 1248108408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :…which contributes to the top-level system being sane. < 1248108455 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Making the thing as a whole a lot better than, say, Windows NT. < 1248108465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Windows NT might be inverted. < 1248108468 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You got userspace code in my kernel! You got kernel code in my userspace! < 1248108469 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YAY! < 1248108472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard much about the underlying NT kernel being insane. < 1248108482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just everything above it, which pokes its tendrils downwards into the kernel, molesting it. < 1248108488 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's only a few hacks in the NT kernel. < 1248108510 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's because "YAY! GUI IN KERNEL!" < 1248108517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, the GUI is in the KERNEL? < 1248108533 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but not for design reasons. < 1248108546 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's for "performance" reasons. < 1248108566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...I mean, I'm a huge proponent of operating system-provided garbage collector, GUI, and so on - huge - but… if you're gonna have a kernel (I suggest you don't…)… putting a fucking GUI in it?! < 1248108568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1248108596 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1248108677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[["Concepts" removed from C++0x]] < 1248108680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope they removed the concept of existing. < 1248108689 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poignant < 1248108732 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What did you know of "Concepts" in C++0x? < 1248108757 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And are you aware that they ought to be called "Typeclasses"? < 1248108781 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I said was a joke, and I don't think they were that. < 1248108783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're implicit typeclasses. < 1248108794 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're more like OCaml's object type. < 1248108824 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, thought they were explicit typeclasses. < 1248108838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's just a constraint that a type must have some given methods. < 1248108859 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame. < 1248108864 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs more typeclasses. < 1248108884 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's actually useful. < 1248108894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OCaml has it. < 1248108897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methinks you're going a bit heavy on the Haskell zealotry :P < 1248108902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, it makes sense, pikhq < 1248108903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to have e.g. < 1248108916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type MyObject = { meth1 :: ..., meth2 :: ... } < 1248108919 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is compatible with < 1248108933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type MyObjectTwoElectricBoogaloo = { meth1 :: ..., meth2 :: ..., meth3 :: ... } < 1248108935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you can infer e.g. < 1248108942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo x = x>>butt + x>>butt2 < 1248108942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1248108955 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo :: (Num a) => { butt :: a, butt2 :: a } -> a < 1248108964 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was intentionally going a bit heavy on the Haskell zealotry. < 1248108990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kay :P < 1248109056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"How will C++0x programming and design look like without Concepts? Brace yourself for many more years of indecipherable template compilation errors. Additionally, type traits will become a hot commodity once again. Presently, type traits are one of the very few proven techniques for enforcing compile-time constraints on templates. Pedagogically, C++ will be a tad easier to teach." < 1248109062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++0x just got even less appealing! < 1248109074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*C++1x < 1248109080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No way it'll be out in '0x. < 1248109082 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, that was one of the primary good things *about* C++1x. < 1248109086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*'09. < 1248109092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's no more naughties to go, heh. < 1248109100 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like, one of the few features C++ always needed. < 1248109105 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mm < 1248109137 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean, if you're going with template polymorphism, you might as well make it proper polymorphism. < 1248109153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Concepts are the most general way of doing the basic idea. < 1248109214 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1248109321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should zap my PRAM just for the fake nostalgia. < 1248109346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION waits for someone to ask what zapping PRAM is.
< 1248109357 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's even more annoying: concepts were the only major C++0x feature that were completely implemented. < 1248109359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why that's easy; it's the solution to ALL Mac woes! < 1248109377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Got a problem? Just zap your PRAM! Apple have truly simplified the problem-solving cycle. < 1248109392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ha! < 1248109416 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GCC 4.4 has concepts. < 1248109430 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess GCC will just have to make that a GNUism. < 1248110403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have so many windows open that Exposé is becoming quite impractical. < 1248110408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never close things... < 1248110447 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might I recommend ... < 1248110449 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Closing things? < 1248110452 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248111044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: that's like doing manual memory deallocation. < 1248111054 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to figure out what i don't need, go into that window, close it, etc. < 1248111058 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DUDE < 1248111060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd much rather have a window garbage collector. < 1248111064 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a GC for my window manager. < 1248111065 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah < 1248111067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ditto < 1248111083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except instead of destroying the windows it puts them out of the way somewhere, i'm not sure i'd like it to start randomly closing things :D < 1248111116 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfff < 1248111116 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wuss < 1248111136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: with all the time you idled before saying 'Might I recommend ..." your IRC client might have quit due to the GC < 1248111138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so on second thoughts < 1248111140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i fully support this idea! < 1248111150 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1248111171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sorry GregorR-L < 1248111174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just relaying what YOUR MOM said < 1248111177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID! < 1248111177 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::'( < 1248111186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*2x Combo! Extra points!* < 1248111191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**LEVEL UP!** < 1248111200 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D'; < 1248111201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Looks like there's something wrong with your face... < 1248111206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...oh wait, it ALWAYS looks that bad! < 1248111208 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I know any sadder smileys :P < 1248111213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*POINTS++* < 1248111227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: That's what SHE said! < 1248111228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In BED! < 1248111230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To YOU!\ < 1248111234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*POINTS++* < 1248111781 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad mplayer supports caching when reading from the filesystem. < 1248111794 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sshfs + mplayer :) < 1248111832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: You know that every player ever does that/ < 1248111832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1248111846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\/\n?/?/ < 1248111868 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad that mplayer supports smb directly. < 1248111938 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Do they? I wouldn't know where to look in a GUI *shrugs* < 1248111950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: What does that second sentence mean? < 1248111972 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means that if I wanted to enable caching of files on the "local" filesystem in a GUI, I wouldn't know where to look. < 1248111988 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Preferences->Advanced->Ultra-advanced->Stuff most people shouldn't ever touch->Cache stuff that shouldn't need to be cached < 1248112021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Y'know that most filesystems directly support caching, right? < 1248112032 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, s/cache/buffer/ for most players *shrugs*) < 1248112061 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I presume you mean buffering -- which is done by default on modern OSes and most players do by default anyways. < 1248112070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, GregorR-L... it's automatic. < 1248112072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What pikhq said. < 1248112073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's many things to like about mplayer -- that's not one of them. :P < 1248112093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mean "can skip backwards without re-reading" or something, which fits "caching" slightly better, then... all players do that, too. < 1248112182 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION installs vlc to test :P
< 1248112239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Anyway, mplayer isn't necessarily command line. Last I checked it had a rather appealing, simple GTK GUI. < 1248112248 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh. < 1248112253 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prefers mplayer to gmplayer.
< 1248112257 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it separated the controls from the video window for some inexplicable reason. < 1248112267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, seriously; what's the point of that?) < 1248112294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/media/gmplayer.png?cache=cache&w=900&h=531 ;; okay, WTF is up with that file picker? < 1248112299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take it back; it sucks. < 1248112333 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weeh, vlc is fekking up. < 1248112345 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps because it's not buffering? Seems probable! < 1248112360 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or, the buffer is ludicrously small) < 1248112373 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Can you inform GregorR-L that he thinks that one of the most popular, polished Linux media players doesn't buffer? < 1248112377 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or doesn't buffer enough? < 1248112388 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not buffering FROM THE LOCAL FILESYSTEM < 1248112394 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"local" < 1248112396 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CAPITAL LETTERS < 1248112403 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Well, it is going over sshfs. He may have done a silly 8G buffer or some such. :P < 1248112413 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8G is a weird smiley. < 1248112432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unhappy glasses-man. He's unhappy because part of his mouth disappeared. < 1248112432 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good lawd, it should not be skipping like this, OK. Maybe it's buffering 1K, but it's not usefully buffering. < 1248112451 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because it would be ridiculous to buffer when as far as you know it's a local file. Not that I have a clue how to convince it otherwise. < 1248112477 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Ridiculous to buffer on a local file? Really? < 1248112494 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hard drives are fecking slow. < 1248112499 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even the world's slowest, most unreliable hard disk is faster than a bloody MP3. < 1248112521 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION brings out the original
< 1248112527 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh aren't we funny < 1248112545 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: QuickTime certainly buffers local files, at least. < 1248112565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell because the progress bar is blank for a split second before it fills in when you open a track. < 1248112568 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As does mplayer; defaults to a 1MB buffer, IIRC. < 1248112573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blankness means unloaded, filled means loaded for networked files. < 1248112582 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's doing the same for local files, too. < 1248114053 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248116301 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION listens to apollo (live broadcast): http://wechoosethemoon.org/
< 1248116451 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, listen to all that sound in space. < 1248116465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man. < 1248116470 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turn the "background audio" down as far as it will go < 1248116482 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid shiny crap < 1248116926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, what GregorR-L said about noise :D < 1248116945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: this isn't looking very live < 1248116973 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, exactly 40 years late < 1248116979 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248116983 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the webcast is live < 1248116985 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's the actual apollo broadcasty thing? < 1248116990 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1248116994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's cool. < 1248117000 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I'm listenin' < 1248117000 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed re-gaining contact, but a burn is about to start < 1248117007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately i can't hear properly < 1248117010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suck at voices < 1248117033 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it looks like twitter on the right hand side < 1248117036 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the accent, isn't it :P < 1248117038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to kill whoever made it look like tw— < 1248117040 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god it's twitter < 1248117044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: no, it's the radio distortion < 1248117097 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how anyone understands it < 1248117116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: very good pattern recognition facilities? < 1248117122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't listen to the radio, even on good quality < 1248117124 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :practice maybe < 1248117141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I need to see the mouth moving to understand fast speech < 1248117142 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiddle with your audio ballence settings < 1248117148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1248117224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Bur de boop" < 1248117226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ what was just said < 1248117244 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, that made my sound go away < 1248117258 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1248117272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did < 1248117278 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiddling with settings < 1248117280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: ha, I found a link to extra-www on the interwebs < 1248117286 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Schweet. < 1248117294 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1248117298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, the audio stream got clearer. < 1248117304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: http://www.www.extra-www.org/ < 1248117320 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck I did just kill my sound < 1248117334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am a proud supporter.* (note: * support is determined by inventing the ranking system rather than, say, putting it into place) < 1248117386 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION actually does the no-www thing on all his sites :P
< 1248117394 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for extra-www.org of course. < 1248117404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No duh :P < 1248117469 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.yourwebsitevalue.com/details/e/x/t/extra-www_org.html // extra-www.org is worth $21 wooh :P < 1248117566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently, ted.com is just worth $711,567; whereas livejournal is worth $55,934,565. < 1248117571 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I missed the start of the burn < 1248117571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methinks ted.com is rather more... worthful. < 1248117572 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bugger < 1248117594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: yourwebsitevalue.com is worth $50,481, apparently. < 1248117602 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248117615 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be funny to offer to buy it at that price, referencing ... itself :P < 1248117638 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm readin' you loud and scratchy" lawl < 1248117639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The separation animation when you go to wechoosethemoon.org is a bit too... easy. < 1248117657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stretch...and...pfft. We're separated in a few seconds. < 1248117666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I got lock on a great hadie, point two miles/ < 1248117672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\//./ < 1248117674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :↑ what I heard < 1248117675 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guesses requested for what my sound demon is called < 1248117686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: alsa. oss. < 1248117690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pulseaudio. < 1248117690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jack. < 1248117698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one of the millions of others < 1248117700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1248117723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Houston we have a fear schematic copy over. < 1248117743 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Four zero, zero zero, zero zero, zero zero SPACECRAFT SPACECRAFT < 1248117756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero SPACECRAFT SPACECRAFT < 1248117758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOON, MOON < 1248117761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHH IT'S THE MOON < 1248117806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that about slaughterhouse five in the bottomright? < 1248117834 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It was listing the most popular books at that time. < 1248117838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1248117840 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just trying to get you in the spirit of 1969 < 1248117843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How utterly pointless. :P < 1248117868 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So's your face though, so don't blame it *shrugs* < 1248117876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: you know, I think the pulsating vector graphic below the shoutcast radio sign in flashy letters, the high-resolution 3d graphics, and just about everything else about the site... < 1248117879 0 :fungebob!n=chatzill@65.66.121.86 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248117881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kinda dispels any 1969 illusions :D < 1248117888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungebob: I assume you like Funge. < 1248117892 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^ < 1248117900 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do! < 1248117901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"We got some unexplained road activity." < 1248117906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know there were roads in space! < 1248117915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungebob: I'm practically psychic. You been here before? < 1248117920 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1248117923 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed I have. < 1248117933 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approximately all the fekking time :P < 1248117959 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in bursts, about every other year < 1248117962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1248117966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well me has a short memory. < 1248117972 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He idles though. < 1248117981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The only-being-here-since-2007 might have something to do with it too.) < 1248117981 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's depressing that, 40 years after man walked on the moon, we are currently incapable of sending a man to the moon. < 1248117984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But true, I forget about the idlers. < 1248117988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They don't really exist. < 1248117997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Incapable? No, there's just not a budget allocated to it. < 1248118001 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. im something of a chronic idler. < 1248118036 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As it turns out, at this point going to the moon would be more "hey look how cool we are" than "we're accomplishing some scientific knowledge", which is pointless :P < 1248118055 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I don't want us to merely go to the moon. < 1248118068 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the nation of Luna. < 1248118070 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I want us to ... BLOW UP THE MOON! MUAHAHAHAHA < 1248118077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. < 1248118085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Atmosphere. Gravity. Resources. < 1248118086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Squat. < 1248118101 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, if the Earth went kapoot, the moon would be pretty screwed regardless. < 1248118104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be the most pointless thing the human race could possibly do apart from watching NASCAR. < 1248118115 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I also want practical fusion. < 1248118122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Best served chilled, eh? < 1248118124 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: consider low-gravity porn < 1248118131 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which would make man on the moon quite reasonable. < 1248118133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. < 1248118135 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungebob++ < 1248118143 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the moon has a decent amount of Hydrogen-3) < 1248118158 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. ehird: consider low-gravity porn fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. < 1248118159 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :43| pikhq: A lunar nation is totally pointless. ehird: consider low-gravity porn fungebob: OK. Now I'm convinced. < 1248118163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: All we need is "Instant Atmosphere, Just Add Planet" and "Gravitron Generator 3000 Ultra+ Extra" < 1248118187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Low gravity porn is essentially the progenitor of all man's advancement. < 1248118214 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who needs high gravity, and you can have a completely sealed-in nation with oxygen. < 1248118220 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would just suck if it got into war with anyone. < 1248118220 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248118254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a... Jupitan (?!) colony? < 1248118254 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(though, there was this trick you could do with launching large amounts of mass into the nearby gravity well...) < 1248118259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be insanely hard and impractical to do. < 1248118261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also awesome. < 1248118265 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about Venus. Or Europa. < 1248118274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We could go surfing on the great red spot, except we couldn't. < 1248118280 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's start by getting man in the general vicinity of Jupiter. < 1248118281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slight issue of impossibility there < 1248118289 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: We're within a solar system ;) < 1248118291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Once we're there we might as well get set up :-P < 1248118297 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makemake_(dwarf_planet) < 1248118299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go to Makemake. < 1248118303 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't heard of it before and ist name is cute. < 1248118306 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1248118307 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: The moons would be a bit more practical for settlement. < 1248118316 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go to ... Andromeda? < 1248118322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Mars would be the most practical, I think < 1248118328 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw recently a great argument against colonising other planets in case of asteroid strike... < 1248118331 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still argues for Venus :)
< 1248118337 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I also want the moon! < 1248118338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercury might be, but... bit hot there, I imagine. < 1248118346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mars would be quite easy compared to the others. < 1248118352 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even after an asteroid strike,. the Earth might still be more habitable than those other planets < 1248118353 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mars is also a good idea. < 1248118356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know; the ones that have obstacles like "is agiant ball of gas". < 1248118360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a giant < 1248118370 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we can add an atmosphere to Mars, surely we can unfuckup the atmosphere of Venus. < 1248118378 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mars is a bit harder to ship stuff to than the moon, but the environment is certainly easier to work with. < 1248118389 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Namely, you already have water there. < 1248118407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, exactly. < 1248118412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has precedent. < 1248118417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surface temp. < 1248118417 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Kelvin < 1248118419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Celsius < 1248118421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :min mean max < 1248118423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :186 K 227 K 268 K[4] < 1248118424 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ordinary air is a lifting gas on Venus, so we could supposedly make airship colonies < 1248118425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :−87 °C −46 °C −5 °C < 1248118427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bit chilly. < 1248118430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But warm enough to make warm. < 1248118432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMO. < 1248118456 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: I LOVE THAT IDEA < 1248118466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surface temp. < 1248118466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 0°N, 0°W < 1248118468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 85°N, 0°W < 1248118470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :min mean max < 1248118472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100 K 340 K 700 K < 1248118474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :80 K 200 K 380 K < 1248118476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yow. < 1248118478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mercury is really hot. < 1248118482 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"duh" < 1248118493 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually, the mean isn't that hot < 1248118503 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :700 K, though... :-) < 1248118517 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's close to the sun and doesn't afraid of anything. < 1248118522 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can surf on the oceans of molten lead < 1248118526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Venus has the same problem as mercury, except worse. < 1248118531 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops, I didn't need to reboot, I just needed to slide one slider < 1248118532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The mean surface temp i 461 C. < 1248118535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is < 1248118537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MEAN. < 1248118544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I wonder how they define surface. < 1248118548 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :high in the atmosphere what the proposal I heard < 1248118555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1248118558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Venus is a terrestrial planet? < 1248118561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248118561 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1248118563 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... >_< < 1248118563 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1248118564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seriously didn't know that. < 1248118566 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248118570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248118574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. I'm, retarded. < 1248118575 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Venus is Earth with fucked up greenhouse effects. < 1248118576 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It merely has a fucking thick atmosphere. < 1248118577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm retarded. < 1248118587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It looks so gassy. < 1248118590 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no tectonic activity, which may be related < 1248118593 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: And volcanos. < 1248118594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Planets fart a lot. BADUM TISH) < 1248118601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, yeah, Venus is just tooooo hot. < 1248118609 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the surface < 1248118624 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's not hot due to sun proximity, it's just hot due to atmosphere. That's probably more of a solvable problem. Or not :) < 1248118631 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, like SimonRC said, who needs the surface? < 1248118636 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :giant sunshade < 1248118674 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, Mars would be the easiest. < 1248118681 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the loud clicks are the astronauts flicking switches < 1248118688 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or ratehr, the resulting sparks < 1248118689 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1248118697 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Venus also has SULFURIC ACID RAIN < 1248118726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mars is warm enough that we could build a warming dome, it has water and had life ... < 1248118728 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So do we, just less of it :P < 1248118743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Its rain *is* sulfuric acid. < 1248118746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And its atmosphere isn't that bad, is it? < 1248118755 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The clouds are made of sulfuric acid droplets. < 1248118755 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It's atmosphere isn't that existent. < 1248118756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I definitely think Mars would be the easiest thing in our solar system to make habitable. < 1248118759 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT HAS A SULFURIC ACID CYCLE. < 1248118761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Exactly. < 1248118768 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's better than Venus. < 1248118781 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idonno, is it? Shipping ridiculous amounts of oxygen to another planet? < 1248118790 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just need some Boeing air-miners ;-) < 1248118791 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has water. < 1248118796 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What pikhq said. < 1248118797 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/me liked that trilogy) < 1248118805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, Mars is basically jumbo-sized Luna with water + precedent of life. < 1248118817 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All you need to get some oxygen is a heater, a battery, and a couple of electrodes. < 1248118822 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're not gonna find a planet more perfect than earth, so you gotta do with what you got. :) < 1248118828 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you may also want somewhere to store the resulting hydrogen) < 1248118843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the theoretical range of wireless charging is. < 1248118853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could we build ginormous charging satellites and use them on both Earth and Mars? :-D < 1248118857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: unlikely) < 1248118858 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Range of light. < 1248118863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, really? < 1248118864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's nice. < 1248118867 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can use microwaves to transmit power. < 1248118877 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how tightly can one focus a laser? < 1248118880 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or a maser < 1248118887 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Very. < 1248118889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Surely you have to choose between safety or enough power to do anything in the case of microwaves, though. < 1248118897 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Obviously. < 1248118902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1248118906 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, discounting microwaves. :P < 1248118911 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh, just use gamma radiation instead. < 1248118918 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, we could adapt some launching lasers to transmit power < 1248118929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: The human race loooves you. < 1248118934 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An absurd amount of solar cells. < 1248118934 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIEK I NOSE < 1248118943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most important thing is... < 1248118954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can we get good latency to Earth's internet satellites from Mars? :-) < 1248118970 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Half an hour latency, unless you have an ansible. < 1248118974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1248118979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half an hour is kinda bad. < 1248118980 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've wanted to make a layer-3 proxy that just sits on packets for $AMOUNT_OF_TIME_TO_CHOSEN_PLANET < 1248118983 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the maximum safe acceleration is when one is submersed in a breathable liquid < 1248118988 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So we could see how effed up Intarwebs would be. < 1248118994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In an historic move, Microsoft Monday submitted driver source code for inclusion in the Linux kernel under a GPLv2 license." < 1248118994 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about 30 lightminutes away. So. < 1248118996 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*splutter* < 1248119007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Erm, really? < 1248119009 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It's a module that helps only them. < 1248119009 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: It's for the Windows virtualisation ABI. < 1248119011 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good lord people, read. < 1248119012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't earth 8 lightminutes away from the su— < 1248119013 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ordinary internet has a TLL max of 255 sec < 1248119014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. < 1248119015 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which Linux already had partial support for. < 1248119018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um. < 1248119029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The distance between Sun<->Earth is smaller than the distance between Earth<->Mars? < 1248119029 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mars--Earth varies a lot < 1248119031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know that < 1248119034 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ah < 1248119043 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION explains the concept of orbit to ehird :P
< 1248119053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shut up, GregorR-L. I just thought it was closer to us. :P < 1248119062 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the orbits are roughly an exponential pattern < 1248119072 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is why my proxy would be schweet. < 1248119075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Double the earth-to-mars distance, and add a few more lightminutes. < 1248119076 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I want to write it again. < 1248119078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guys, I figured out how to get an internet connection on Mars. < 1248119080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Kirks_Soap_Yerkes_Mars.jpg < 1248119092 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Earth-to-sun. < 1248119094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Build a gigantic cable that at its widest point is as wide as mars. < 1248119096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Attach it to mars. < 1248119102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Optionally, drive lorries along it. < 1248119106 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well NASA are working on an "interplanetary internet" < 1248119117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you, Mr Yerke. < 1248119118 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we could just use it for off-site backups < 1248119130 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is so much stuff on and around mars that it is worth creating a satellite specialised to high-power comms < 1248119132 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Yes; current Martian probes use IP for transmission. < 1248119139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, but... slowly... < 1248119159 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The orbiter is a router, and the landers talk to it. < 1248119162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shame that the theoretical maximum is 30 minutes. < 1248119172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any way around it? < 1248119177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, I don't mean < 1248119178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :faster than light < 1248119181 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's satellites in Earth orbit that talk to the orbiter. < 1248119182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean internet infrastructure < 1248119197 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Mirror the World Wide Web on Mars. < 1248119209 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NNTP! < 1248119209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: that doesn't let you chat to people on earth :P < 1248119214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I guess that's just not gonna be feasible. < 1248119216 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Email. < 1248119220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's a damn shame; so much for globalization. < 1248119228 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ansible. < 1248119239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Sort of impossible. < 1248119248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well... < 1248119248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon < 1248119250 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, yeah, yeah. < 1248119252 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: lorentz symmetry < 1248119260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But tachyons are weird; it could be that Earth is sending us the packets we sent, or something. < 1248119261 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reimagined as. < 1248119263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1248119268 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stable wormhole < 1248119285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, we'll just put a wormhole in orbit around mars. < 1248119287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Great idea, that. < 1248119291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And earth. < 1248119297 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does so.
< 1248119299 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it's more practical than using one for transmission, at least. < 1248119312 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in soviet space-time, mars orbit wormhole < 1248119321 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you don't need the thing to not tear *people* apart. ;) < 1248119324 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, the theoretical "mass" is just too big < 1248119326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: *orbits < 1248119327 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Soviet space-time" lol < 1248119330 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Transportation. < 1248119334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:48 SimonRC: seriously, the theoretical "mass" is just too big < 1248119335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat? < 1248119355 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the mass for even a slightly usable wormhole was larger than the sun < 1248119361 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that for matter transmittion? < 1248119362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Crackle crackle crackle crackle crackle crackle crackle crackle crackle. < 1248119363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248119364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1248119372 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 'tis a bit < 1248119382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives up on wechoosethemoon.org; too boring atm.
< 1248119420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Worm3.jpg ← Throat, ey? < 1248119423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wormhole porn anyone? < 1248119447 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well, certain sorts of porn would be helped by it < 1248119498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: i'm trying to figure out what you mean. < 1248119573 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Done. < 1248119579 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Portal) < 1248119585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: lawl < 1248119589 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wormhole porn? < 1248119596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungebob: Portal porn; Portal portals are wormholes. < 1248119605 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a wormhole porn limerick < 1248119608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unfortunately it is impossible for a traveller to pass through the wormhole from one Universe into the other. A traveller can pass through a horizon only in one direction, indicated by the yellow arrows. First, the traveller must wait until the two white holes have merged, and their horizons met. The traveller may then enter through one horizon. But having entered, the traveller cannot exit, either through that horizon or through the horizon on the othe < 1248119611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r side. The fate of the traveller who ventures in is to die at the singularity which forms from the collapse of the wormhole." < 1248119624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :// somehow I don't think said traveller would actually experience this < 1248119655 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What I'd love is a wormhole in space < 1248119660 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a very particular place < 1248119668 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd try to contrive it < 1248119672 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so one end's at my privates < 1248119672 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, of course, your could literally fuck yourself < 1248119677 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the other's attached to my face." < 1248119694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: you couldn't do penetrative intercourse without moving the wormhole < 1248119703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it disturbs me that I can reason this < 1248119742 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a prerequisite or as a consequence? < 1248119751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prerequisite < 1248119797 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't quite see that
< 1248119836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: when you moved your penor forwards, your butt would move forwards too < 1248119841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QED < 1248119852 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah < 1248119856 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1248119856 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1248119864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1248119867 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: This is why you'd move the wormhole. < 1248119868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's so obvious now! < 1248119873 0 :fungebob!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if the wormhole had a half-twist? < 1248119875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That hurts my brain, though < 1248119878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ $/./ < 1248119899 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the solution to that is to use it for time travel instead, and have sex with a shifted version of yourself < 1248119921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: shaky. depends on how consciousness works. < 1248119929 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1248119933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's entirely possible you'd end up as one mind with two bodies and brains < 1248119944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, FSVO entirely possible < 1248119960 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, in a dualist universe < 1248120007 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CARTESIAN DUALISM FTW < 1248120053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hurf durf, I'm an exception to the normal laws of physics cuz im speshul < 1248120080 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are they out of contact now? < 1248120094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who? The moon guys? < 1248120098 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1248120153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol@bottomright bit about the loch ness monster < 1248120202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because Descartes' was such a difficult theory to defend, some of his disciples, such as Arnold Geulincx and Nicholas Malebranche, proposed a different explanation: That all mind-body interactions required the direct intervention of God." < 1248120254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's not surprising that a Christian would be a dualist. < 1248120260 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'll use Cartesian Dualism to seperate my mind from my body!" (+735 mindless damage) http://dresdencodak.com/2006/12/03/dungeons-and-discourse/ < 1248120278 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... That's replacing an arbitrary, indefensible theory that is at least interesting to think about with... Sheer stupidity. < 1248120280 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even harder to justify as a monist/. < 1248120282 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :describing dualism as "i am an exception to the laws of physics" is a terrible caricature < 1248120284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\\// < 1248120301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh, you don't really think Cartesian dualism is true. < 1248120301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kay. < 1248120308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pthing: it's called an irc oneliner < 1248120314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they generally aren't accurate < 1248120318 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Maybe mind and body are seperate." to "Mind and body are seperate and GOD MAKES THEM TALK TO EACH OTHER! LAWLS!" < 1248120333 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why's that any more stupid < 1248120388 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They claim that god being involved makes it easier to defend. < 1248120397 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it does < 1248120416 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have to call it god, they just did back then < 1248120446 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ack. Just got really silent :P < 1248120447 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just seems like a stupid philosophical debate. < 1248120453 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is < 1248120463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True enough. < 1248120473 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not as stupid as just accepting any position blindly < 1248120488 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mind and body are seperate!" "What does this imply?" "I... don't know." < 1248120515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wonder how you DO justify christianity as a monist.) < 1248120519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In general.) < 1248120548 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe the mind is copied out when you die? < 1248120554 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: With great difficulty. < 1248120563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: define death < 1248120570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :information-theoretic death? by definition you can't recover it then < 1248120580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything before that? revival is theoretically possible < 1248120588 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really much harder than with dualism, surely < 1248120594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: but that's not the point, amirite < 1248120596 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neutral monism makes it trivial < 1248120601 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(relatively) < 1248120601 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Hah. < 1248120627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hey, that's what y'all say. :P < 1248120646 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and idealist monism < 1248120653 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has been historically popular < 1248120857 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248121415 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the lunar orbit diagram is fucked up < 1248121429 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't show the module as being behind the Moon < 1248121632 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14th revolution? yeah the diagram is wrong < 1248121664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks at the intro sequence again; determines that there is in fact a dark side of the moon
< 1248121671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :matter of fact half of it's light. < 1248121694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, they mentioned MIT. < 1248121695 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like MIT < 1248121702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :. < 1248121714 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the far side of the moon is made of darker rock than the near side mostly < 1248121727 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ver. < 1248121729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very. < 1248121732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very dark rock. < 1248121775 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. < 1248121777 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just cut out. < 1248121780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's back. < 1248121801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like to think that the nm distance is actually nanometers. < 1248121828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 0.22mm away. < 1248121895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crackle, crackl.e < 1248121897 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nautical miles: "Lets make up some things that are similar to real miles but slightly different enough that they aren't interchangeable, and give the excuse that they correspond to latitue change at the equator" < 1248121897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crackle. < 1248121904 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1248121908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: well, they just took the mean of a sea mile < 1248121915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so they actually improved on the sea mile < 1248121920 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to having it fuckin' vary < 1248121923 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, see if there is any food in this building, 'coz I ain't leaving < 1248121934 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248121941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does nautical mile pre- or post-date regular miles anyway? < 1248121944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know < 1248122092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crackle < 1248122092 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crackle < 1248122272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crackle. < 1248122284 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno what is doing that < 1248122346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No communication, I guess. < 1248122395 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why does it come and go? < 1248122406 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, had they not invented FM by this point? < 1248122428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: I guess they got tired of saying "Hey... we're going to the fucking moon." "Heyup, tru dat." "The moon. Like, us, on the moon." "You got it." < 1248122443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, maybe FM's latency was too high or something (note: I'm an idiot) < 1248122459 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: FM is significantly less tolerant of interferance. < 1248122464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That, then. < 1248122471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ITYM "SimonRC:" < 1248122483 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, FM is harder to do. < 1248122523 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so why is FM clearer on my radio? < 1248122528 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can just about do AM with a tin can and some string. :P < 1248122558 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Because its transmission mode makes interference less noticable. < 1248122673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is Apollo control. < 1248122687 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: gottit < 1248122732 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Around 9.5 miles from the Moon. < 1248122746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, going fast. < 1248122764 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what all those people in the control room do
< 1248122803 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of stuff. < 1248122819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Check shit doesn't blow up, I'd gues. < 1248122820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess. < 1248122834 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, we get signal! < 1248122857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KRRRRRRRRT < 1248122865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KRRRRRRRT < 1248122932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This needs subtitles. < 1248122940 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yeah, the powered descent is behind the moon (again) < 1248122940 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248122957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: i don't get what you mean by that < 1248122959 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure the NASA website has full transcripts somewhere < 1248122975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, what's the point of this if it's already available? < 1248122983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess just the audio could be newly released < 1248122993 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the lunar module has to go behind the moon one more time before landing < 1248122997 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: We're all getting to listen to it simultaneously? < 1248123006 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly 40 years after it happened < 1248123010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, kay. < 1248123015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: exactly? < 1248123017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To the planck time? < 1248123025 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, close < 1248123030 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:49 SimonRC: ehird: the lunar module has to go behind the moon one more time before landing < 1248123031 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248123035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand what you're trying to say < 1248123053 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are going round the moon, right? < 1248123061 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they have to slow down to land < 1248123074 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and they can't actually slow that quickly < 1248123074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yuh, and? < 1248123084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ok... and? < 1248123087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you trying to say < 1248123113 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they are going to go round behind the moon once more before they actually land < 1248123128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... and why do you find this pertinent enough to mention? :P < 1248123135 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sigh* < 1248123146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a simple question < 1248123164 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the diagram in the lower right doesn't show it < 1248123174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1248123184 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is also my grandmother's birthday. < 1248123186 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is just a progress bar with a vague indicator < 1248123186 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, waitamo, it does actually < 1248123317 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"An altitude of 12.9 nautical miles" :P < 1248123323 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12.9 miles into the OCEAN OF SPACE < 1248123350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1248123356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ah, it does. < 1248123361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Spacean. < 1248123564 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude, like your rada and eyes disagree by 6% < 1248123585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ? < 1248123606 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their visual check said 5300nm and their radar said 50000nm < 1248123612 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*53000 < 1248123622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248123638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: it's at ft in the Distance from Moon thing < 1248123640 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not nm < 1248123649 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I meant feet < 1248123651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also 50000 is obviously averaged < 1248123655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't changed for ages < 1248123685 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, from what they said, the noise is because their HG antenna isn't pointing quite the right way < 1248123701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All radio is noisy :P < 1248123714 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the roaring bits < 1248123726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248123739 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the aidio is 30s off from the countdown < 1248123746 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: the KRRRRRRRT you mean? < 1248123750 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1248123763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, 30s — maybe uhh < 1248123769 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :earth rotation offset? wait, leap years < 1248123772 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm dumb today < 1248123818 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the even times are only to the nearest minute < 1248123845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*event < 1248123853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that seems likely < 1248123853 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would make sense given that it is counting down to exactly 102:33:00 < 1248123904 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid pinging noise < 1248123936 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok good bit coming up < 1248123957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION listens
< 1248123961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :paused for a sec < 1248123972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hoston we got lost < 1248123977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to go air freedom < 1248123984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am good hearing person < 1248123993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: any complications launching the module thingy? < 1248124008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm new twitter stuff from refreshing < 1248124011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it went black before that < 1248124016 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no complications < 1248124032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: if you change view you can see a "UNITED STATES" sticker on it < 1248124036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if lost, please return to... < 1248124042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*found < 1248124079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1248124090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: we're now 220249 nm from the moon < 1248124102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it just shot off into space huh < 1248124103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248124126 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if they'll fix it < 1248124135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: wow that's noisy < 1248124142 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1248124167 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, can't understand any of this :P < 1248124172 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, just quieted a bit? < 1248124177 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1248124198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just absorbing it as ambience < 1248124202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since i have no hope of hearing what they say < 1248124220 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eveidentally there is a separate data channel < 1248124231 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ? < 1248124235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :howso < 1248124241 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they were referring to "data dropouts" < 1248124248 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248124257 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe "dating dropouots" ;-) < 1248124263 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248124285 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1202 program alarm < 1248124299 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: sounds like 6125 here < 1248124304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sixteen sixty eight < 1248124314 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"6+25" it was < 1248124323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :6+25 = 1202! < 1248124346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, 1202 FACTORIAL. < 1248124361 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1248124405 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, now I'm confused... < 1248124411 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe they are going to land in a few moments < 1248124421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: no < 1248124424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at the diagram < 1248124429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one more half revolution < 1248124433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then they'll dig into the moon < 1248124434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-P < 1248124440 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1248124455 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an awesome idea, they should have done that < 1248124460 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're actually digging quite a bit THROUGH the moon. < 1248124473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's true. < 1248124478 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For as deep as they end up, they've dug some five times more than they needed to. < 1248124491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you take the previous point as being connected to it by an invisible line, they'll dig all the way through. < 1248124500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then do the route backwards. < 1248124502 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 1201 is hapenning again < 1248124504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa. Chang. < 1248124506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Change. < 1248124509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: 1201 or 1202 < 1248124513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I don't hear that < 1248124515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it the beep thing < 1248124517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah < 1248124518 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're landing < 1248124526 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're like wow < 1248124531 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, they stopped. :D < 1248124536 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're floating in the air. < 1248124539 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1248124544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: aren't they meant to orbit again? < 1248124546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1248124548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's advancing < 1248124562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ok, they're using a bad diagram to represent the redirection < 1248124566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can see it's advancing very quickly < 1248124567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :40 sec < 1248124603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ding. Ding. Ding. < 1248124605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here we goooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1248124633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's that burning stuff? < 1248124634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1248124635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the lights? < 1248124644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: I don't think it landed that smoothly < 1248124644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1248124651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat, there's a return to earth button < 1248124654 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it do? < 1248124668 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that was a fun, brief visit. < 1248124670 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*return to Earth* < 1248124671 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248124675 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :starts a too long loading thingy < 1248124677 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haven't even landed yet and already we're leaving. < 1248124680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: you click it and figure out what it does < 1248124683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, er < 1248124684 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we've landed < 1248124685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248124686 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :concentrating... < 1248124689 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ? < 1248124694 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :image is way ahead < 1248124695 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh Lord. Someone's trying to get Gene Ray, Doctor of Cubic, to lecture at my university. < 1248124699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: oh < 1248124702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: awesome < 1248124708 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: he did MIT, why not that place < 1248124709 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Schweet < 1248124714 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"... The eagle has landed" < 1248124727 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: This is sure to be interesting. < 1248124727 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cheer* < 1248124729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone returned to earth? < 1248124734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: i don't hear cheering yet :( < 1248124741 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am cheering < 1248124744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1248124744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248124751 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone return to earth, dammit. < 1248124754 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Might be slightly tricky to get the powers that be to approve the venture, but only slightly. < 1248124755 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOSE < 1248124757 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SCREW EARTH < 1248124763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT THE BUTTON MIGHT DISAPPEAR < 1248124773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do it in another tab or something :P < 1248124801 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: GregorR-L: "Distance from moon 220259 nm" < 1248124807 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248124807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's one of them optical illusions. < 1248124819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1248124819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: < 1248124820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not pikhq < 1248124851 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"distance from moon 120ft" < 1248124863 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I welcome the opportunity to lecture at the University of Missouri, please procede with the venture. Be warned, be careful, for you could pay a price for your yearning." -- Gene Ray, Doctor of Cubic < 1248124871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: wat < 1248124876 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time cube guy < 1248124880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1248124881 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahahah < 1248124882 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just mean, wat < 1248124885 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, http://www.theonion.com/content/index?utm_source=nav < 1248124888 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is such a Time Cube thing to say. < 1248124902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Doctor of Cubicism, btw. < 1248124903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Cubic. < 1248124905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get it right. < 1248124960 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Fine, fine. < 1248124968 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human < 1248125014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone returned to earth? < 1248125020 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Return to fucking earth, you bitch. < 1248125021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, you. < 1248125057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Made with all ingredients, this gel is perfect for any occasion. Child and adult enjoy it equally, sometimes, as do even pets! If you need gel, buy this gel. < 1248125058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The device has been completed and is now available for sale. Code 41-Virtue-00B < 1248125060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.yuwanmei.com/products < 1248125070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want the Device. < 1248125089 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is "stay/no stay"? < 1248125120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1248125124 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just go to earth. < 1248125134 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1248125136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see. < 1248125139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: we're seconds out of sync :P < 1248125143 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably whether they're going to, y'know, STAY or NOT STAY :P < 1248125165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"On the ground"? < 1248125167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are they out yet? < 1248125178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume not, as we haven't had Armstrong's speech. < 1248125178 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they had a load of stuff to do < 1248125182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1248125190 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure thaty they weren't leaking for example < 1248125195 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :World's most public goof :) < 1248125205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: What goof? < 1248125208 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if they were leaking fule, they would be unable to get off unless they went right away < 1248125210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1248125211 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1248125213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean the [a] man thing. < 1248125215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1248125215 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah < 1248125232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really a goof, IMO... It's way better this way. < 1248125236 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?!?!? < 1248125237 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unknown command, try @list < 1248125238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a man" would have been much less memorable. < 1248125238 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought hea said "One small step f'ra man..." < 1248125241 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you, in idiot? < 1248125259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: It flows much better as "One small step for man..." < 1248125266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: He maintained that too, but analysis of the recordings says not. < 1248125269 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may flow better, but it's meaningless. < 1248125271 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: true < 1248125276 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: true < 1248125283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: It's only meaningless if you can't pattern-match. < 1248125289 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One small step for mankind, one giant leap for mankind. < 1248125289 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're gigantic inferring, pattern-matching machines. < 1248125295 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, the reason for not using auto-targeting < 1248125296 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The meaning is obvious, clear and precise. < 1248125308 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only obvious because it's obvious the goof he made :P < 1248125308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: I didn't hear; what was it? < 1248125319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: Uhh, a ton of people didn't think it was a goof. < 1248125324 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were loads of rocks where it was putting them < 1248125346 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: It said that in the top-left mission status thing. < 1248125353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I'va got something to make yer blood boil. < 1248125361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Saying it was a waste of $11, Los Angeles resident Dan Bevver expressed disappointment Sunday that The Taking Of Pelham 1 2 3 was not nearly as bad as he had been anticipating. After going in with expectations of hammy acting and clichéd dialogue, Bevver was irritated to find an adequate retelling of the 1974 film, with performances that ranged from acceptable to decent." < 1248125379 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1248125383 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT MOVIE WAS SUCK < 1248125402 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"And don't forget one in the command module" lol < 1248125402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: It's an Onion article. :P < 1248125402 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: there was a similar review of the new ST movie < 1248125405 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Saddest thing ever said? :P < 1248125409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: I was muted; what did they say beforehand? < 1248125415 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ST? < 1248125420 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :star trek < 1248125432 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: lots of smiling faces in the command room < 1248125443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:30 GregorR-L: Saddest thing ever said? :P < 1248125445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's it sad < 1248125458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dun geddit < 1248125476 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, he said it himself. The guy in the command module. They said something about two guys being up there, and he said "And don't forget one in the command module" :P < 1248125489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. :P < 1248125510 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was the furthest one person had ever been from any other human alone < 1248125523 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... I doubt that. < 1248125524 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Highly. < 1248125569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: wasn't there that report of those two guys who heard a russian drift off into space < 1248125585 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a russian drifting into space? < 1248125585 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D-8 < 1248125588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: also, what do you mean by that? < 1248125590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, yeah < 1248125593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing official < 1248125603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read it about a web article, some kids hijacked the communications of missions and stuff < 1248125612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall the url < 1248125620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:31 SimonRC: that was the furthest one person had ever been from any other human alone < 1248125622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that mean < 1248125625 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't parse that sentence properly < 1248125653 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, untill the seperation, they were 25000mi from most humanity, but only a few meters from each other < 1248125658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248125685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: wait, i'm not sure i understand < 1248125688 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is apart from who < 1248125802 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Collins will soon be 1000s of miles from Armstrong and Aldrin < 1248125813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248125853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never really thought much about the return mission... or anyone but armstrong or aldrin... of course someone had to say behind < 1248125854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm silly < 1248125868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't really ever thought much about apollo 11 :p < 1248125936 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, they are doing a computer memory dump < 1248125944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: what... all of it? < 1248125947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :over the audio channel? < 1248125952 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1248125960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it must have had a kilobyte or two of memory < 1248125979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Launch date July 16, 1969 < 1248125979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:32:00 UTC < 1248125983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, exactly? < 1248126002 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know the answers to either of your questions < 1248126011 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248126014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Number of lunar orbits 30 < 1248126021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: methinks that diagram was... not very accurate :D < 1248126029 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methinks duh. < 1248126035 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1248126038 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'s called a joke < 1248126042 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yes, with second accuracy. < 1248126057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: huh < 1248126064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wanted to make a show huh :) < 1248126110 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long until they get out? < 1248126128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Shortly after landing, before preparations began for the EVA, Aldrin broadcast that: < 1248126128 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : This is the LM pilot. I'd like to take this opportunity to ask every person listening in, whoever and wherever they may be, to pause for a moment and contemplate the events of the past few hours and to give thanks in his or her own way.[15] < 1248126132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He then took Communion privately.]] < 1248126141 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just read that < 1248126144 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this second < 1248126156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I've landed on the goddamn moon thanks to decades, nay centuries, of scientific progress and human accomplishment. I know! I'll go eat a Jewish zombie's flesh." < 1248126245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure why you'd risk drinking any amount of alcohol for such an important thing tbh, but there you go < 1248126246 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, nice tech support < 1248126259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha, i wish i could hear what they're saying < 1248126272 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're talking about correcting the mission timer < 1248126281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248126281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248126292 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems the first digit is a 9 instead of a 1 < 1248126294 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1248126298 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it is hhhmmss < 1248126311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: At 02:56 UTC on Monday July 21 (10:56pm EDT, Sunday July 20), 1969, Armstrong began his descent to the Moon's surface < 1248126317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so midnight in the UK < 1248126322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until they descend < 1248126325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's a long time to wait. < 1248126330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm preëmptively bored < 1248126558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After the astronauts planted a U.S. flag on the lunar surface, they spoke with President Richard Nixon through a telephone-radio transmission which Nixon called "the most historic phone call ever made from the White House." < 1248126563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1-800-MOON < 1248126636 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"While moving in the cabin Aldrin accidentally broke the circuit breaker that armed the main engine for lift off from the moon. There was initial concern this would prevent firing the engine, which would strand them on the moon. Fortunately a felt-tip pen was sufficient to activate the switch." < 1248126640 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The schedule for the mission called for the astronauts to follow the landing with a five-hour sleep period" -- ok, you just landed on the moon. now take a nap < 1248126649 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Whoopsy! Oh, never mind. I just poked it." < 1248126666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: would be a gripping tv thingy that < 1248126676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AND NOW, A PICTURE OF THE MODULE FOR FIVE HOURS" < 1248126699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how long they actually walked on the moon < 1248126707 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not long < 1248126719 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I'm just wondering actually how long < 1248126724 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 was pretty much a flags and footprints affair, IIRC < 1248126730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and some samples < 1248126753 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck, well I can't listen to the famous line in pseudo-real time < 1248126764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: er, lag much? < 1248126766 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I said that ages ago < 1248126773 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I ought to at least go home before that point < 1248126781 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, the "one small step" line < 1248126799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Subsequent Apollo missions usually planted the American flags at least 100 feet (30 m) from the LM to avoid being blown over by the ascent engine exhaust.]] < 1248126800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what? < 1248126803 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought we only walked on the moon once < 1248126805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1248126809 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really don't know much about our space missions < 1248126813 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh what? < 1248126814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder whyn ot < 1248126823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: really, my mind's making shit up < 1248126829 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to cover for black holes in my knowledge < 1248126832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange < 1248126848 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your timezone? < 1248126862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever it is in the UK; BST? < 1248126870 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1248126873 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am in BST too < 1248126879 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's 2154 now < 1248126931 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, someone describing the Earth < 1248127065 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There is no official flag for Mars because there is no government or other authority to adopt such a flag." < 1248127067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Mars < 1248127114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR-L: didn't you say Mars doesn't have an atmosphere or something? < 1248127146 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mars has the potential capacity to host human and other organic life because it has an atmosphere < 1248127147 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mars has an atmosphere. While very thin (about 0.7% of Earth's atmosphere), it provides some protection from solar and cosmic radiation and has been used successfully for aerobraking of spacecraft. < 1248127166 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yup < 1248127207 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :110bpm :-S < 1248127212 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :156bpm :-! < 1248127327 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION contemplates sleeping at work just to get to hear the words
< 1248127330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone wanna return to earth? < 1248127331 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC? < 1248127332 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah, not worth it < 1248127341 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll listen tomorrow < 1248127345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so worth it! it's totally not, but anything's worth it if it's silly. < 1248127349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything's worth anything if it's sill. < 1248127351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly. < 1248127356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, I'll return to earth < 1248127367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1248127368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it jets up < 1248127386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: ahahaha it's back in space < 1248127390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys are smiling < 1248127391 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I see < 1248127400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay this is boring i'm going back to the moon < 1248127404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: so I see? < 1248127410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you click it as well or did i make it happen for everyone :-D < 1248127414 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I pressed the button a few minutes after you < 1248127421 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1248127436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION refreshes to get back
< 1248127441 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248127449 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, you broke the entire internet < 1248127473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Only the cloud tops of Venus are closer in terms of habitability to Earth than Mars is." < 1248127476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't fall off! < 1248127481 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I read that /topic someewhere recently, but I can't remember where < 1248127497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: Lewis Carroll, What The Tortoise Said To Achilles < 1248127528 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Of course, air is bouyant in the Venus atmosphere < 1248127529 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, yes < 1248127543 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: so you've said < 1248127551 0 :GregorR-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1248127564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: does that mean if you were in venus's air, you'd float to the top naturally? :D < 1248127589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mars has no global geomagnetic field comparable to Earth's." < 1248127589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1248127613 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Sure. < 1248127614 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all cooled down < 1248127624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: all cooled down what < 1248127628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh the space guyzzzzzz < 1248127629 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd need lead bricks in your shoes to go to the surface. < 1248127630 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mars's core < 1248127670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SimonRC: oh :P < 1248127673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The one-way communication delay due to the speed of light ranges from about 3 minutes at closest approach (approximated by perihelion of Mars minus aphelion of Earth) to 22 minutes at the largest possible superior conjunction (approximated by aphelion of Mars plus aphelion of Earth). Telephone conversations or Internet Relay Chat between Earth and Mars would be highly impractical due to the long time lags involved. NASA has found that direct communicatio < 1248127676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n can be blocked for about two weeks every synodic period, around the time of superior conjunction when the Sun is directly between Mars and Earth.[12] A satellite at either of the Earth-Sun L4/L5 Lagrange points could serve as a relay during this period to solve the problem, or even a constellation of communications satellites, which would be a minor expense in the context of a full-blown Mars colonization program. < 1248127683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so less than 30 minutes at all times, apart from when it's infinity < 1248127696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a true shame about the speed of light < 1248127700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that fast after alll < 1248127703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*all < 1248127717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"As with early colonies in the New World, economics would be a crucial aspect to a colony's success. The reduced gravity well of Mars and its position in the solar system may facilitate Mars-Earth trade and provide the rationalization for continued settlement of the planet." < 1248127721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rationalization? seriously? < 1248127723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ughhh < 1248127730 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am strongly of the opinion that I want the physics of the Ender-verse. < 1248127739 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ansible? FUCK YEAH. < 1248127755 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lorentz symmetry, FUCK NO! < 1248127758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i'm kinda in favour of the whole "doesn't totally fuck up physics" thing < 1248127761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what SimonRC said < 1248127762 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Philotes! < 1248127780 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google, unsurprisingly, can has a logo < 1248127818 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A philote is the basic building block of matter, the true indivisible particle that is not made up of smaller ones. Philotes take up no space and are essential to the theory of philotic energy. Each atom has a philote of its own, each molecule likewise, and ultimately each human has an aiùa, an intelligent philote. It is suggested that perhaps a single philote, which could be referred to as God, contains the essence of humanity, and/or all sentient spe < 1248127821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cies in the known universe." < 1248127824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny how that fits in with Card's theology. < 1248127835 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess gay people don't have ai`uas, though < 1248127921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh card's also a republican who claims to be a democrat < 1248127925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ Card is a vocal supporter of many aspects of George W. Bush's leadership style, the war on terror, aspects of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and aspects of the USA PATRIOT Act. < 1248127926 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On November 6, 2006, just one day before a major election in the United States, Card wrote an opinion piece for RealClearPolitics, in which he encourages voters to support the Republicans: < 1248127929 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :“ There is only one issue in this election that will matter five or ten years from now, and that's the War on Terror... I say this as a Democrat, for whom the Republican domination of government threatens many values that I hold to be important to America's role as a light among nations. But there are no values that matter to me that will not be gravely endangered if we lose this war.]] < 1248127940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I'm a democrat, guys. Apart from being a republican in every way possible." < 1248127968 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Actually, philotes are a bit inconsistent with his theology. < 1248127973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, he's also anti-we-did-global-warming, anti-we-should-do-something-about-global-warming and anti-evolution. < 1248127977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh? < 1248127992 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: He's a republican in democrat's clothing in republican's clothing? :P < 1248127998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GregorR: Obviously! < 1248127999 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mormons think that God was just this guy, you know, who became diety of this planet, and that their afterlife consists of being God of a different planet. < 1248128014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I thought they were more orthodox Christian than that. < 1248128021 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1248128033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are pretty strongly unorthodox. < 1248128042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Believers will live in the Celestial Kingdom, a place wonderful beyond all description, and receive the direct sight and love of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, who will also live there. Unlike the nonbelievers, you will be united with your family; if you had a Mormon marriage you'll get the fanciest part of the Celestial Kingdom and live like God Himself. Children who die before the age of 8 come here automatically. < 1248128056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Virtuous nonbelievers will enjoy the Terrestrial Kingdom, which is totally amazing. Jesus and the Holy Spirit will come to visit sometimes. If you aren't that virtuous you will go to Hell for a while, but eventually Jesus will rescue you and take you to the Telestial Kingdom, which isn't as great but still so wonderful you would off yourself if you knew how good it was. Jesus won't be there but the Spirit will. < 1248128059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although Hitler was baptized by the Mormons and thus released from "spirit prison," he will be judged by God at the Apocalypse and most likely sent to outer darkness with Cain and Satan. < 1248128062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: doesn't sound like being god of a planet to me. < 1248128067 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(getting humans to do space colonisation now is looks to me rather like getting prehistoric man to build the Trans-Siberian railway with stone axes and shoulder-blade shovels while he is migrating across the asian continent for the first time.) < 1248128071 0 :SimonRC!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to bed
< 1248128073 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Where you getting this? < 1248128080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://shii.org/afterlife < 1248128088 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm. < 1248128093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, being accurate for all the other belief systems, I am not particularly inclined to doubt. < 1248128100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I would doubt it if he was a Mormon himself, but he isn't.) < 1248128127 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's pretty close, but "live like God Himself" include being a deity of a world. ;) < 1248128133 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kay. < 1248128151 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I guess I generalised a little bit for sake of demonstration) < 1248128166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I take issue with that page, incidentally, because it ranks consciousness-snuffed-outness as a positive outcome, which fucks up the ordering in my opinion. < 1248128179 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Mormon treatment of everyone is the nicest. < 1248128200 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It's understandable, though, because the author is a Buddhist so he's kinda working towards that whole permanent death thing.) < 1248128216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Whereas we the irreligious think he could do that perfectly fine by just sitting around for a while. :-) ) < 1248128243 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad description of Greek afterlife; Hades is not entirely hell. < 1248128255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The rest of us poor bastards go to Hades and just sit there gloomily." < 1248128258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He doesn't imply it's hell. < 1248128262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hitler also goes to Hades, but he gets punished. Forever." < 1248128267 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1248128268 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1248128313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Unbelievers will fall off a bridge and into Hell, where they will be tortured forever. Apparently there will be some sort of judgement involved, but it doesn't matter because in the end the believers will go to Heaven and the unbelievers to Hell." < 1248128315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nutrimatic religion. < 1248128379 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1248128751 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Man, reading about the Apollo flight computer... < 1248128764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was the first computer to use integrated circuits. < 1248128767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many kb did it have < 1248128773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1? 7? 8534895345? < 1248128776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.01? < 1248128798 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 kibiwords; 16-bit word, so 2 kibibytes. < 1248128802 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. 4. < 1248128824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't imagine that taking us to the moon. < 1248128829 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the integrated circuits? It used 4,100 ICs. < 1248128829 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Each one contained a single gate. < 1248128838 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A single nor gate. < 1248128846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely impossible... < 1248128978 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1248129001 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1248129011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :google holiday logo on results page, but not main page < 1248129012 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, magnetic core memory. < 1248129014 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how strange < 1248129022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and clicking on it just takes you to main page < 1248129040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also... only in konq? < 1248129083 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, wait. It was not a Von Neuman architecture. < 1248129106 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 kibiwords of program storage in rope memory, and 24 kibiwords of RAM. < 1248129146 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it's http://img0.gmodules.com/logos/moonlanding09_res.gif < 1248129171 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's an assembly instruction on it, "EDRUPT" that is used once in the guidance software that nobody knows what it does. < 1248129194 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All that's known is that it was implemented as asked for by Ed, and that it's an interrupt of some sort. < 1248129367 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248129376 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1248129386 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has anyone tried patching it out < 1248129448 0 :augur!n=augur@c-71-196-114-50.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1248129525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Shuttle's computers are much easier to deal with... < 1248129531 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a very old IBM mainframe. < 1248129634 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Years later, it was publically revealed that Nixon had prepared a speech to be given if the mission resulted in death. The lunar module had not been tested to assess if it could launch from the moon surface.]] < 1248129635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How stupid. < 1248129683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Is "EDRUPT" in the space shuttle? Did I really understand that right? < 1248129686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not ask Ed then < 1248129733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, in the Apollo 11 systems. < 1248129739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Ed may well be dead, or has forgotten. < 1248129740 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been 40 years. < 1248129963 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird < 1248129972 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there an esolang that uses orbital mechanics? :o < 1248129978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't know. < 1248129982 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be < 1248129987 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be something like < 1248130014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: are you listening to the broadcast? < 1248130018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it sounded like the control center there for a second < 1248130023 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a control satellite orbits command objects < 1248130044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah < 1248130051 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and has to move from one orbit to another in order to engage in control flow < 1248130065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what broadcast? < 1248130073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1248130074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1248130076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://wechoosethemoon.org/; bring a Flash player. < 1248130083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The moon landing, in real time, time-delayed 40 years. < 1248130086 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1248130094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All the communications. < 1248130099 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the only way it can do this is by the command objects gravity attracting the control satellite via normal orbital dynamics < 1248130110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why "hah"? < 1248130111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's great. < 1248130170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, wouldn't that be uncomputable? Somewhat like "gravity" is? < 1248130194 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, noone said it would require perfect solutions to the coupled differential equations < 1248130210 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: No, I'm working and chatting on IRC from time to time. < 1248130218 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather, you'd just use numerical methods to simulate n-body orbital mechanics and to hell with the error < 1248130222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Working is for ... triangles. < 1248130224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're a triangle, pikhq. < 1248130226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A triangle. < 1248130230 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ / / < 1248130287 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alternatively, you could have a "control" thing that fires little objects out at whatever interval you want, and they have to impact the appropriate command object < 1248130352 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while all of these things engage in free orbiting (the control drone could orbit far enough out to take a circular orbit, tho, so we can treat that as being fixed in space) < 1248130478 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the task of the programmer would be to discover some combination of command drone firing, coupled with initial orbital conditions, to make it so that the right orbiter is impacted at the right time < 1248130509 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is probably impossible to achieve for all but the most trivial of problems. < 1248130668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, sounds like it wouldn't be TC anyway... unless you have control flow somehow < 1248130673 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is pretty clearly a domain-specific language. < 1248130698 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And a pretty crazy one at that. < 1248130723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1248131214 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it was just an initial idea < 1248131238 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since itd be fucking impossible to program < 1248132006 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1248132087 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1248132176 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248132233 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1248133160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`WA test < 1248133161 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1248133165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram test < 1248133171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes that was it probably < 1248133178 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram 2 + 2 < 1248133184 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :test \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ test English word \ Definitions: \ \ communication covering experiment mental measurement run trial \ \ a set of questions or exercises evaluating skill or knowledge a hard outer covering as of some amoebas and sea urchins trying something to find out about it any standardized procedure < 1248133185 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 \ \ 2 \ \ Input: \ \ 2 \ \ 2 \ \ Result: \ \ 4 \ Number name: \ \ four \ Visual representation: \ \ Generated by Wolfram|Alpha (www.wolframalpha.com) on July 20, 2009 from Champaign, IL. © Wolfram Alpha LLC—A Wolfram Research Company \ \ 1 \ \  < 1248133190 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram lengths of months < 1248133197 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lengths of months \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ length unit \ \ month \ \ Result: \ \ 1 length unit mo length unit month \ Unit conversions: 6 \ \ 6.408 10 m s meter seconds \ \ Interpretation: \ \ no standard named quantities \ Basic unit dimensions: \ \ length time \ \ Generated by Wolfram|Alpha (www.wolframalpha.com) < 1248133208 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1248133218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram days of months < 1248133224 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :days of months \ \ Input interpretation: \ \ day \ \ month \ \ Unit conversions: \ \ 1 day : 30.42 days \ Comparisons: \ \ 1 day is 0.03288 times smaller than 1 mo \ Ratios: \ \ 1 : 30.42 \ Total: \ \ 31.42 days \ Fractions of total: \ \ 0.03183 \ \ 0.9682 \ \ Generated by Wolfram|Alpha (www.wolframalpha.com) on July < 1248133235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`wolfram days of each month < 1248133241 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$Failed \ \  < 1248133253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want it to calculate how long an average month is :/ < 1248133273 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :natural language input can go fuck itself < 1248133365 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :365.24/12 should be pretty close? < 1248133398 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :365.2425/12 < 1248133445 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, that isn't too hard to remember.. Got to update my reference number for average days/year... < 1248133491 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.209 JOIN :#esoteric < 1248133492 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The average month in the Gregorian calendar has a length of 30.4167" - Says wiki < 1248133504 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 365.2425/12 < 1248133505 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 30.436875 < 1248133508 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30.4167 what? < 1248133517 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Planck times? < 1248133519 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that was only during non-leap years < 1248133527 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope, days per average month < 1248133531 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> 365/12 < 1248133532 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 30.416666666666668 < 1248133629 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :says wikipedia? < 1248133630 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1248133662 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :365.0004/12 = 30.4167 < 1248133667 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird < 1248133676 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, rounded < 1248133677 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1248133696 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION catches up to where you were already at!
< 1248133705 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :literal minded people are literal minded < 1248133790 0 :nescience!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not so much 'literal minded' as it is 'annoyed at people shortening the name of a website to a noun that already has a different meaning' < 1248133820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: plz never use Wiki as a noun unless you mean WikiWikiWeb < 1248133821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kthx < 1248133922 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never use Wiki as a *proper* noun unless you mean the WikiWikiWeb. Kthx. < 1248133941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: [Full-disclosure] anti-sec: OpenSSH <= 5.2 zero day exploit code - 48 hours until it is publicly released! < 1248133948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anti-sec. < 1248133952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OpenSSH exploit. < 1248133954 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The wiki is a small wingless spanish bird, known for hanging upside down in trees by its powerful claws. < 1248133959 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, paradoxically, full disclosure. < 1248133961 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F U C K < 1248133987 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck. < 1248133999 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OPENSSH ZERO DAY FUCK fUCK FUCK < 1248134037 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad that my place of employment has iptables rules to limit who can SSH in. < 1248134045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait. < 1248134048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/20/anti_sec_spoof/ < 1248134051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spoof. < 1248134056 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...at least if you trust El Reg < 1248134060 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tre bone. < 1248134062 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trusting El Reg is rarely the correct decision. < 1248134071 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hah. < 1248134093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"AntiSec would never fully disclose. They would only sell the exploit to those whom they consider the last moral agents in a completely destitute society: spammers, internet griefers, and of course Romanian credit card thieves." < 1248134095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—reddit < 1248134110 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quoted for truth, I assume. < 1248134117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuh. :) < 1248134120 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's an internet griefer? < 1248134133 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Script kiddies with more knowledge, I assume. < 1248134158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :griefer = troll.