< 1251159187 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip70-162-187-246.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251160330 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-169-5-210.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251160515 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251162132 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251162769 0 :Dewi!n=dewi@203-206-251-180.dyn.iinet.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1251163157 0 :olsner_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :olsner < 1251164257 0 :GregorR!n=gregor@65.183.185.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251164315 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251165084 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251165152 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251166702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey... oerjan is mentioned in the Haskell 98 Report. < 1251166715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In addition, dozens of other people made helpful contributions, some small but many substantial. They are as follows: […] Orjan Johansen […]" < 1251166880 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251166891 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, it's in a list that has, at a glance, more than 100 items. < 1251167602 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251167606 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251168004 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-58-181.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251168515 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251168558 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251169119 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251169120 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :sebbu < 1251169384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eizo displays are shiny < 1251169387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shiny shiny < 1251169658 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251169709 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1251170342 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251171076 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251171713 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251172048 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1251173718 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1251173781 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hey... oerjan is mentioned in the Haskell 98 Report. <-- i sent in some error corrections < 1251173973 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: So, you've been doing Haskell for quite a while. < 1251173996 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was back in 2001/2002 or so, when i was first learning it < 1251174001 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmm. < 1251174122 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : which kind of disproves xkcd today. There is more to being a geek that just that flowchart ;) < 1251174149 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my thought about that was that a lot is hidden under the knowledge needed to understand that something _is_ related < 1251174202 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that xkcd < 1251175564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so not 1998 or before thenw < 1251175569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would have been even more awesome < 1251175626 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1251175637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1251175852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone explain to me why people like CRTs so much for professional work < 1251175857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aren't they inherently blurry < 1251175900 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their radiation gives such a nice skin color < 1251175901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, aperture grill crts look less shit than most i've seen < 1251175905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least from my lcd :-P < 1251175915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*grille < 1251175931 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gorilla < 1251176156 0 :kwertii!n=kwertii@67.180.202.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251177473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi kwertii < 1251177484 0 :kwertii!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehird. how's it going? < 1251177489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty goingly < 1251177538 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251177559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if we have OLED visors yet < 1251177564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must... become... cyborg... < 1251177631 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, i think my ideal wearable computer rig would have three cameras < 1251177642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in front, in back, and mounted on the goggles/visor < 1251177646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pointing at your eyes < 1251177656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for scrolling, naturally) < 1251177676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Body Area Network exists < 1251177682 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/15/wearable-ecg-uses-patients-posture-for-encryption-transmits-da/ < 1251177686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol kurzweil < 1251177712 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1251177717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1251177733 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not exactly commonplace, is it? < 1251177749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1251177762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway who wants a body area network when you can have a bluetoothin', wifin', 3gin' wearable computer. < 1251177770 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should not be a pain to open links < 1251177790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: context? < 1251177820 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it's painful for me to open links I see on IRC. Firefox is so slow. Slow to start up, and slow to open new tabs < 1251177831 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: try epiphany-webkit < 1251177839 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm on Windows < 1251177846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try ubuntu. < 1251177855 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not when I feel like playing games < 1251177859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use opera or sth < 1251177863 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I felt like when I turned my computer on today < 1251177864 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sth? < 1251177867 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sth=something < 1251177871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, VM, bitch < 1251177872 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1251177878 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :3d virtualisation in your face < 1251177901 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I get my current Windows stuff in a VM? < 1251177910 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Eh? < 1251177935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: ? < 1251177936 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My current Windows install. Can I easily run it in a VM? < 1251177949 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, you could mount the partition in the VM, I guess. < 1251177960 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VMWare can do it, says googling. < 1251177964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if virtualbox can < 1251177971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with some reading you may be able to manage this. Just be very careful. One wrong move and you can trash the OS. < 1251177972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put this in Goggle.com raw access site:forums.virtualbox.org < 1251177972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also section 9.10. Using a raw host hard disk from a guest (read the warnings) < 1251177976 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(goggle.com lol) < 1251177977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes, you can. < 1251177983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I used the 'sudo VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename -rawdisk /dev/sda2 -register' command" < 1251177986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Easy. < 1251178012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: So install VirtualBox in Ubuntu, run one command, add a new VM and choose the created file as the disk. < 1251178013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voila. < 1251178030 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll look into it < 1251178037 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: It's one command < 1251178046 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to sleep soonish < 1251178053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sudo VBoxManage internalcommands createrawvmdk -filename -rawdisk /dev/ -register < 1251178057 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And trying to install Zune < 1251178063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then is a vbox disk file < 1251178066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: umm why < 1251178103 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so I can watch season 3 of The Guild sooner, hopefully < 1251178116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo, piracy. < 1251178118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's hot. < 1251178120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or sth < 1251178142 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll wait if it's not free on the Zune marketplace < 1251178154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it's cold, because it helps agains global warming. < 1251178171 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(RAmen) < 1251178182 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Tru dat < 1251178293 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Windows needs to restart to complete the installation" < 1251178299 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*facepalm* < 1251178308 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is that surprising < 1251178316 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries without restarting < 1251178410 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be working < 1251178487 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, apparently I can download season 1, but I don't see season 2 < 1251179172 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1251179345 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251179680 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G'night all < 1251179817 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251180221 0 :oklokok!n=oklopol@a91-153-117-223.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251180226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oklokok < 1251180328 0 :kwertii!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251180381 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251181798 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-8-202.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251181941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet is way too intwined < 1251182019 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tubes < 1251182021 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need mor < 1251182125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: to intertwine? < 1251182139 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need more bandwidth < 1251182165 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: buy a magic < 1251182173 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Ich muss nach die Schule fahren" < 1251182249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: pay someone to mail you disks with your downloads on < 1251182254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huge latency, massive bandwith < 1251182257 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might have to < 1251182259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bandwidth < 1251182264 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: i volunteer < 1251182285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have an 8mbit connection that runs at ~6.5mbit, it isn't too good :P < 1251182294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :800kiB/s max in practice, more often 500-600kiB/s < 1251182298 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1251182303 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get 100 on a good day < 1251182305 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and 30 up < 1251182342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get that up < 1251182345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my upload is shit < 1251182348 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my dl is okay < 1251182369 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :useless for torrenting < 1251182383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna get me some $15/mo usenet. < 1251182400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :march next year we get ADSL2+, I think, anyway; so I should be able to get 3072kiB/s < 1251182403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :max < 1251182412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the upload isn't too bad either < 1251182425 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got to figure out how to get a better connection < 1251182432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: where do you live < 1251182438 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :colraod < 1251182439 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1251182441 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :colorado < 1251182462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the whole state have terrible interwebs or sth < 1251182494 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: anyway, my suggestion: there's a fibre-optic provider in norway that don't charge you $400 if you dig your own cables < 1251182499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see if there's anything similar in your state < 1251182513 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1251182519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: failing that, rent the cheapest and nearest possible space you can that you can get an okay internet connection to < 1251182527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get wiring < 1251182541 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wifi... < 1251182542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*doesn't, not don't < 1251182548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: in wifi range? < 1251182554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1251182556 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :satellite dish < 1251182558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: your internet providers are fickle :P < 1251182562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant, < 1251182573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: that won't be fast < 1251182574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at all < 1251182584 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, yes it would < 1251182593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would it? < 1251182604 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: wifi draft-n, i assume < 1251182613 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1251182620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: uhh, it's a lot lot faster than g < 1251182628 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot of modern routers have it < 1251182633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inc. most wifi chips < 1251182635 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and g is a lot faster than any internet connection in the united states < 1251182642 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: yes, *at short range* < 1251182684 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many hard drives can you fit in a 1u server? < 1251182690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: like, 2 < 1251182695 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251182697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're basically flat. < 1251182712 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: anyway, all you'd need is < 1251182730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a) cheapest and nearest possible space that you can get decent interwebs to < 1251182736 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(b) a router < 1251182741 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(c) mad scientist DIY skills < 1251182749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(d) a satellite dish < 1251182760 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe just move based on where i can get bandwidth < 1251182764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, two satellite dishes < 1251182772 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basement of datacenter will do fine < 1251182778 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: that's a lot less fun :P < 1251182792 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this would actually be practical, assuming you have the money to blow on the rent < 1251182854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: well < 1251182859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if such satellitery is legal < 1251182978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: you should totally do it < 1251182992 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1251182997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: why not < 1251183001 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got a couple of directv dishes < 1251183010 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :might just try to find someone's fast wifi < 1251183036 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: look up how much it'd cost a month to get the netted storage space < 1251183087 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1251183091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you suck < 1251183103 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only penis < 1251183118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suck some rented storage space instead < 1251183221 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mebbe move to norway < 1251183226 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they sound fun < 1251183231 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have hella bandwidth < 1251183232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: sweden < 1251183239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they have the same net, well, maybe 50mbit instead of 100mbit < 1251183241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also pirate party < 1251183250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :albeit less oerjan < 1251183458 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1251183580 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1251183581 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip70-162-187-246.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251183584 0 :kwertii!n=kwertii@67.180.202.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251183587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ipod touch first generation can boot freebsd < 1251183590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION eyes his iphone < 1251183600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish to torture you with fun operating systems. < 1251183610 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1251183638 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Issue: It'd probably involve, like, typing, on that fucking touchscreen. < 1251183656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Solution: Wearable computing, again! Have they made those OLED visors yet? < 1251183826 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's annoying that I could perfectly well build all the elements of my perfect werable computing rig - ARM computer, head-mounted camera, back-of-head-mounted camera, (single-spec) goggles with mounted fast-but-low-quality pointing at my eye camera (for glance-scrolling and double-blink choosing), and some things near my hands for mousing and keyboarding... < 1251183827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...but... < 1251183841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only screen I could have would be opaque and not part of the goggles. < 1251183862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Irritating to the max, though otoh, if I have to look at the display separately, that makes eye-tracking less error-prone. < 1251184293 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just discovered his editor has PGN syntax highlighting < 1251184311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Piggen. < 1251184313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Empiggen. < 1251184314 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Embiggen. < 1251184317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your editor is cromulent. < 1251184340 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is disturbed by that insight into ehird's thought processes. < 1251184342 0 :bsmntbombdood_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pgn? < 1251184367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: I have overly-sensitive pattern recognition facilities, especially phonetically. < 1251184394 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also have a fondness for many small changes resulting in huge long-term changes. < 1251184395 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_: chess notation < 1251184399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are like FREEDOM! < 1251184413 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: sure, I read it as pigeon. Still, getting from PGN to Simpsons is... well, it's something /I'd/ do < 1251184419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1251184434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: when do you think the others will realise that i'm just sshing in and ircing as coppro < 1251184450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean really < 1251184453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :look at your name < 1251184458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the kind of joke i'd make! < 1251184464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also I am you in agora. and real life. < 1251184470 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have two bodies. maybe more < 1251184475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to keep track, you know how it is with bodies < 1251184481 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :h2g2 < 1251184483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :douglas adams < 1251184485 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dna < 1251184487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rna < 1251184492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :root normal agglutination < 1251184496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jargon < 1251184499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jargon file < 1251184502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eric s raymond < 1251184510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coprophilia < 1251184512 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro < 1251184524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(h2g2 from "you know how it is with bodies") < 1251184530 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, was away from keyboard < 1251184578 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: my name isn't a joke < 1251184586 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, isn't /intended/ to be one < 1251184592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, you'd say that to further the illusion of you not being me < 1251184603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am prone to these antics, and outright revealing it is very silly to do if you want to keep up the ruse < 1251184607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thus people won't believe I am you < 1251184612 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're all Ertai [/injoke] < 1251184613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus, indeed, keeping up the ruse < 1251184680 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: If I'm you, why do you need to convince me of that? < 1251184685 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oughtn't I know? < 1251184701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. I'm carrying out this conversation so, as per the above lines, people keep believing the ruse. < 1251184703 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's part of the fun. < 1251184710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what you're going to say next, btw. < 1251184715 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because I'll type it. But perhaps... not just now... < 1251184770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it's getting boring waiting. Time to say it. < 1251184797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Innit, coppro? < 1251184861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, by constantly amending my intentionally false predictions, I further the illusion of being distinct from coppro. < 1251184868 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is like having an argument with myself... crap, that really doesn't sound right. < 1251184898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Exactly like, in fact. < 1251184906 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my point exactgly < 1251184912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactgly. < 1251184913 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, want to scam Agora? < 1251184916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was an actual typo of mine. < 1251184925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Sure, sockpuppet. < 1251184936 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely the scam I was thinking of < 1251184946 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phill would be proud. < 1251184960 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phill? < 1251184965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get off my lawn. < 1251184973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: something that earned me some months in chokey. < 1251184982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reg'd an alternate email, sent off a registration < 1251184986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tick tock, 7 days - you know all this, btw - < 1251184988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ratified < 1251184993 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAZAM! < 1251184999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my incorrect claim to identity was...? < 1251185005 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Correct? Incorrect? I merged with Phill? < 1251185008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I created a distinct entity? < 1251185008 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear < 1251185019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- I forget the exact result, but it was mundane and full of punishment and rage. < 1251185028 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1251185060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Well, I did try and do an alt to circumvent something or other, or as an experiment, beforehand, and got summarily slapped on the wrist with a warning from Goethe, so it's not like I didn't know what'd happen. < 1251185064 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERESTING NOTE: You could say that me and coppro are, in fact, different people: not separate physical bodies, but personas; mentally distinct consciousnesses. < 1251186309 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251187090 0 :calamari!n=calamari@ip70-162-187-246.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251187199 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1251187200 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1251187526 0 :oklopol!n=oklopol@a91-153-125-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1251188134 0 :M0ny!n=Harmony@AToulouse-258-1-91-210.w90-60.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251188153 0 :MizardX-!i=MizardX@h-28-236.A159.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251188204 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251188205 0 :MizardX-!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :MizardX < 1251188318 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plop < 1251188604 0 :oklokok!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1251189956 0 :kwertii!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"bye" < 1251190053 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1251192747 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1251192971 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251193023 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1251195795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :comex: ping. < 1251197746 0 :M0ny!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251199681 0 :ehird_!n=ehird@91.105.65.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251199824 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1251199833 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1251199839 0 :ehird_!n=ehird@91.105.65.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251199856 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yoyoyoyoyo < 1251199873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird_, ? < 1251199882 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1251199883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you doing? < 1251199890 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo? < 1251199907 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Nick collision from services. < 1251199908 0 :ehird_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehird < 1251199928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh thought you were testing a new client or such. < 1251199936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, the power cut. < 1251199939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then I updated Colloquy. < 1251199954 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— good thing my disk wasn't being written to when it cut, eh. < 1251200052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, UPS? < 1251200067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :waste of money. and they buzz. < 1251200068 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(pronounced as "yo-pe-ess" ;) < 1251200078 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: not a waste of money - for datacenters) < 1251200080 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, they do? Why? < 1251200085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: some electronics stuff < 1251200093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't know the exact reason < 1251200141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why all computer cases are ugly < 1251200146 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, btw you saw what I said a few days ago about sun + screen right? < 1251200149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not check logs < 1251200156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the exception of... the mac pro. oh, and the antec p182 < 1251200163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ehh, how many days < 1251200164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251200168 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.65.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251200168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1251200170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well ... < 1251200173 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.65.31 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251200174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well ... < 1251200176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :balls < 1251200178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need to stop hitting cmd-w < 1251200201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 to -3 days < 1251200207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think < 1251200216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so could be the weekend earliest < 1251200223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehh can't you just tell me yo < 1251200239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:23:13 ehird: I tried outside in direct sunlight today. Hard to read, but still not impossible if at brightest setting. Impossible to read at 70% brightness in direct sunlight < 1251200239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:23:37 also depends on exact viewing angle it seems < 1251200240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that? < 1251200242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I responded to that < 1251200245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't I < 1251200245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1251200247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe not < 1251200250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you did < 1251200252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I definitely read it < 1251200255 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1251200270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway I hope that answers all the questions you had? < 1251200289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh and any idea of a program for linux to measure your typing speed < 1251200301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sec < 1251200304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm interested in both average and max (that is burst) < 1251200313 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a good online one that shows you a random text snippet as you start < 1251200316 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you can't memorise it < 1251200322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you might want to test typing < 1251200323 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not copying < 1251200358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but speaking of laptop displays < 1251200359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well that would be much slower, since atm I know 1-2 words in advance what I will type and can move my hands in the right position < 1251200359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In other^2 news, I have discovered a means whereby ordinary laptop screens may be viewed legibly in very bright sunlight. The experimental prototype is 80% complete, and will hopefully stop eating my attention and desk space in the very near future." < 1251200362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— loper os guy < 1251200369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :albeit from june last year < 1251200378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loper os? < 1251200385 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet another insane one? < 1251200392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lisp machine, filesystem-abolishing, metacircular, type thing revival. < 1251200400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"insane" is misleading; the current systems are insane. < 1251200404 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also what was the secret? < 1251200409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The secret? < 1251200420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the "means" he mentioned < 1251200424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it < 1251200431 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All I know is what I pasted. I have asked him < 1251200432 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some filter? < 1251200434 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1251200435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1251200445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, lisp laptop? < 1251200463 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like a fun idea < 1251200467 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you derive pleasure from mashing random words you hear together and calling them concepts? I get that feeling from you < 1251200481 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um... no? < 1251200488 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I didn't mean it as a concept < 1251200490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You do it very often if you don't enjoy it then < 1251200498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: so you mean lisp laptop as a non-concept < 1251200500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I just wanted a lisp machine in a laptop < 1251200506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then remarked on it being a fun idea, despite not being a concept < 1251200511 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhhhhhhh huh < 1251200533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fun idea to build, if I knew how < 1251200540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It exists. < 1251200542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a laptop? < 1251200551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, wipe it. Install 64-bit linux. < 1251200552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install snap4. < 1251200554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pirate OpenGenera. < 1251200556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hah hah < 1251200556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bazam. < 1251200579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so... did you get opengenera working < 1251200583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the old ubunut < 1251200585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ubuntu* < 1251200587 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could easily if I wanted, but I'm lazy. < 1251200603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no luck with the new ubuntu I assume? < 1251200610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not even worth trying. < 1251200616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm :/ < 1251200616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OG is 90s software; it needs nothing more. < 1251200638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, source code for snap4 and patch it somehow to work with new X? < 1251200641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The least painful way, of course, is buying a DEC Alpha workstation. < 1251200645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, why even bother? < 1251200646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, :D < 1251200647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works with old X. < 1251200663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, bitrot, in a few years getting that old X to work will be quite a pain < 1251200673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doubtful. XFree86 still works. < 1251200686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really?! < 1251200699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, yeah. It's also still maintained, officially. < 1251200701 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blergh no alias for interrobang on laptop < 1251200709 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Least release uh, 2008-12. < 1251200713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, heh < 1251200722 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think one of the BSDs uses it. < 1251200724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetBSD < 1251200724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251200742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe I should set up a vm with netbsd < 1251200748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is the only bsd I haven't tried < 1251200755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You've tried DragonflyBSD? < 1251200763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*DragonFly BSD < 1251200773 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: It has freezable processes! < 1251200777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, s/only bsd/only "classical" bsd/ < 1251200787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And AWESOME jails. < 1251200789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means Free/Net/Open < 1251200798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Dude, 4.3BSD, man. < 1251200800 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, how do they differ from freebsd jails? < 1251200808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're more sandboxy < 1251200809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well yes, I tried that too < 1251200812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a few years ago < 1251200817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still runs? < 1251200825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since October 10, 2006 PC-BSD has been supported by the enterprise-class hardware solution provider iXsystems.[1] In November 2007, iXsystems entered into a distribution agreement with Fry's Electronics whereby Fry's Electronics stores nationwide carry boxed copies of PC-BSD version 1.4 (Da Vinci Edition).[2] In January 2008, iXsystems entered into a similar agreement with Micro Center.[3] < 1251200828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1251200829 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well it did under qemu a few years ago < 1251200854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, iirc vmware and 4.3BSD had a hate-hate relationship though < 1251200860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*4.4BSD; not 4.3 < 1251200887 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm... nop, was 4.3 I tried I think. Not completely sure though < 1251200891 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it was a few years ago < 1251200895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't mean your line < 1251200900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just realised that 4.3 isn't the latest < 1251200906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well true < 1251200914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Incidentally, I learned today that FreeBSD runs on the iPhone. < 1251200925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if only it had a keyboard. < 1251200934 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually was probably 4.4 < 1251200941 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since it seems 4.3 wasn't for x86 < 1251200953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait... < 1251200998 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah indeed < 1251201005 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so must have been 4.4 I guess < 1251201007 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I also told bsmntbombdood_ to rent out some cheap space near him that can get alright internet access and use the two satellite dishes he has to beam 'er up to his impoverished-internet home via WiFi. < 1251201017 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is of highly questionable legality; practicality. < 1251201049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err I didn't follow that quite... < 1251201057 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_'s home can only get shitty internet. < 1251201059 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-mepmkvcebmwtdyaz JOIN :#esoteric < 1251201065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, latency is high with sat though < 1251201076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be possible to rent out some space near his home that has good internet. < 1251201079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because of a better location) < 1251201084 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has two sat dishes lying around < 1251201103 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you mean like a few hundred meters or so would make a big difference for internet quality? < 1251201104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hack up wifi router to use that dish to send, and DIY himself a receiver at his home... < 1251201107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Voila! < 1251201116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nope; I mean miles. :P < 1251201124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh I see. just the *dishes*, with no sat involved < 1251201128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah not very legal < 1251201129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bet < 1251201139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Illegal and *awesome*. < 1251201145 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMMA CHARGIN MAH WIFI < 1251201150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IMMA FIRIN MAH WIFI < 1251201152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOOP DA WHOOP < 1251201163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um it isn't a laser < 1251201169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I say laser? < 1251201188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no, but that was the only way those references made sense to me < 1251201198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you're stupid. :p < 1251201225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it went like dish -> dish shape with the laser thingy of the death star in Star Wars -> laser < 1251201226 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1251201246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anyway, what frequency do they use? < 1251201258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're DirecTV dishes. < 1251201274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and with very good *directional* antennas I think you could actually do it legally. Maybe < 1251201286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without going above allowed tx power < 1251201287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How much would that cost? < 1251201293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're already talking a bunch for the rent < 1251201295 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus internet < 1251201306 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well... a very very very good cantenna? < 1251201324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The idea is to keep it plausible. :P < 1251201330 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(given reasonably large budget) < 1251201353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I wonder if it'd be possible to run ethernet cables instead. < 1251201358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, I heard of wifi across a km < 1251201370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're doing WiFi, that's a given. < 1251201384 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with one directional antenna at computer, and a normal access point < 1251201401 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so directional antennas at both end would probably manage a bit further than that < 1251201405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how much a few miles of ethernet cable cost. < 1251201420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Total distance between an Ethernet Transmitter and Receiver at the absolute end points of the network (maximum diameter from origin to final destination, if the wires were stretched out to form a straight line): 100 Meters (328 ft., 109 yds., or about the length of a football field). This limitation results from the timing of the Ethernet signals on the cable and not necessarily the cable characteristics, and is, therefore, a "hard" number. < 1251201421 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um. won't work, isn't max length like 100 meters < 1251201426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: just have routers < 1251201429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :every 100 meters < 1251201435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, power for them? < 1251201441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh and why not fiber? < 1251201445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: run a really long power cbale < 1251201446 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cable < 1251201448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, sure, fiber < 1251201475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fiber will manage quite far with no repeaters < 1251201477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: but where would you put it < 1251201482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't put them underground, that's illegal < 1251201489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can't prop up masts < 1251201493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, where would you put the ethernet cable then? < 1251201497 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no fuckin' idae < 1251201498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idea < 1251201502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1251201509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then we are back at good directional antennas < 1251201521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I think could actually work, assuming a free line of sight < 1251201527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's implausible < 1251201534 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're not talking about the middle of nowhere here < 1251201538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh? < 1251201543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but why bad internet then < 1251201547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if it is in a city... < 1251201555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ... < 1251201559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1251201561 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :US... < 1251201561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if where bsmntbombdood_ lives is isolated, < 1251201566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The place where the good internet is, < 1251201568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would not be isolated, < 1251201569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And thus, < 1251201571 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have to cross, < 1251201573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Urban places, < 1251201575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah I see the issue... < 1251201575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if bsmntbombdood_ has bad internet, < 1251201578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In his non-urban place. < 1251201582 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well you want to fry those urban places? < 1251201589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who gives a fuck about urban places! < 1251201592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is what the alternative to free line of sight would be < 1251201596 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay, i debugged my haskell program for hours because it inferred the return type of scale to be Int instead of Integer \o/ < 1251201604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, um. FBI probably does < 1251201605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: xD < 1251201609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Or, a bunch of satellite dishes, chained < 1251201612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less powerful < 1251201616 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all my errors seem to be bignum errors nowadays < 1251201618 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, mounted where? < 1251201621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though you have to rent a 349583459873453495 places < 1251201624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Rent a bunch of places, duh < 1251201627 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daisy chaining them < 1251201629 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah exactly < 1251201633 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why not move instead? < 1251201645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or uh. Get internet over sat < 1251201649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that exists after all < 1251201655 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Umm. < 1251201657 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq has sat internet. < 1251201658 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is SLOW. < 1251201663 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, latency is high yes < 1251201663 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood_'s 1mbit connection is faster. < 1251201673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who cares about latency ;P < 1251201696 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, he said moving would probably be the best option. < 1251201699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But thought experiment, bitch. < 1251201703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, apart from gamers, people using irc, and most people using TCP < 1251201725 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRC uses TCP, fun fact. < 1251201744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well yes. Why not just hack google's plans for new data centers to place one next to him < 1251201744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251201752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember what I said about plausible? < 1251201765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh, *plausible* thought experiment < 1251201790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's esoteric because it's not something you'd ever do. < 1251201795 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and I know about irc using tcp :P < 1251201796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hw < 1251201799 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however* < 1251201799 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that doesn't mean the solution has to be impractical; it's easy to be impractical. < 1251201801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? < 1251201808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not SCTP < 1251201810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1251201812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, shut up. < 1251201815 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1251201816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1251201818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one uses it < 1251201827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but sctp is COOL < 1251201832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shuuuuuuuuuuuuuut < 1251201834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup < 1251201841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why do you hate it :/ < 1251201850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just totally boring, what you're saying, you see. < 1251201859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh *sob* < 1251201862 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so < 1251201875 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any of you have knapsack problem instances you want to approximate fully polynomially? < 1251201879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes < 1251201887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://xkcd.com/287/ < 1251201888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kthx < 1251201896 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't have a solution < 1251201899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes, it does < 1251201904 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming it's the restaurant one < 1251201906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does? < 1251201908 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: two < 1251201913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although randall thought only on < 1251201914 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1251201916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his code was buggy < 1251201918 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :turns out there's two. < 1251201930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so get on it, bitch < 1251201983 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, how would you do it polynomially? I thought it was NP? < 1251201994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or rather, NP-complete < 1251201994 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"approximate" < 1251201994 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a fully polynomial *approximation* < 1251201997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're retaaaaaaaaaaaaaarded < 1251202002 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh right, missed that word < 1251202041 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :knapsack problem and subset sum are both np-complete, but they can both be approximated to any percentage in polynomial time < 1251202050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: gogogogogogo xkcd < 1251202053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fully polynomial means the time is also polynomial in the inverse of the epsilon < 1251202198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GO < 1251202228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1251202253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a group of students passing, speaking German. With a guide. < 1251202271 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then a minute later, one group speaking English < 1251202285 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How...odd < 1251202286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1251202291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and just now I think Italian, but not completely sure < 1251202298 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be some other similar language < 1251202326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I can't think of a good explanation... < 1251202332 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine doesn't find it, and neither does http://www.vjn.fi/pb/p454663626.txt, and neither did a guy on #math when that was linked there < 1251202332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tourists? < 1251202335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Secret agents? < 1251202348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, another English group < 1251202349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1251202373 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if there is one, i'm interested in knowing what it is < 1251202374 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: do you want me to link to 5 billion people solving it or do you want to avoid the embarrassment and fix your code < 1251202383 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: link < 1251202401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: first one i found: http://paddy3118.blogspot.com/2009/06/xkcd-knapsack-solution.html < 1251202403 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1251202403 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh probably student exchange thingy < 1251202411 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a solution if you assume the 7 is actually a 1 < 1251202426 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that would be a weird assumption < 1251202432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: http://paddy3118.blogspot.com/2009/06/xkcd-knapsack-solution.html < 1251202443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, at least that is my best guess < 1251202489 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you can choose two of one? < 1251202489 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so there, bitch < 1251202492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :........................ < 1251202495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, no shit < 1251202500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course it's impossible if you can't < 1251202510 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1251202516 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course? that's the usual subset sum :P < 1251202519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course you can choose more than one of one. < 1251202525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's trivially impossible < 1251202533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh indeed, introduction for exchange students < 1251202534 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you can choose two of one, then in fact it is not an instance of subset sum < 1251202546 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the fucking name implies you choose a subset < 1251202564 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm. < 1251202572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Randall never said subset sum < 1251202572 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i guess he doesn't say subset sum anywhere < 1251202573 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so stfu < 1251202575 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251202576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snap < 1251202585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, snap4? < 1251202600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://collison.ie/blog/2008/04/lisp-machines < 1251202614 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :says knapsack problem, that is usually just one of each, but yeah, that could mean any of each. < 1251202623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: so get on it bitch < 1251202628 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, i already found it < 1251202630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes? < 1251202631 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i told you < 1251202635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i want approximatorors < 1251202653 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: uh, i answered your damn question < 1251202654 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my approximator doesn't allow you to take any of each < 1251202665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: fix it :P < 1251202672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: uh, aren't all NP problems reducable to another < 1251202675 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least yet, i'm planning to include that too, later, but it's rather complicated < 1251202677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh I was trying to make a joke about snap ;P < 1251202677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so reduce the multi one to ... single one < 1251202681 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, they aren't < 1251202686 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i hate talking to you about math < 1251202694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: umm, I'm pretty sure they are < 1251202695 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're so fucking smug and don't know shit < 1251202701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1251202702 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THEY AREN'T SHUT THE FUCK UP < 1251202705 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could stop talking to you if you want < 1251202721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...or not, because i enjoy irritating you < 1251202738 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the multi one can be trivially reduced to the single one by adding many of the same object. < 1251202744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, damn. I was going to ask you if you would stop talking if I asked you as well < 1251202748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not relevant < 1251202752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you didn't for oklopol < 1251202753 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not going to implement that because i'm implementing a better scheme for that later. < 1251202795 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the obvious enhancement is to have only the "binary digits" of each object, have on of the object, one of it*2, one of it*4 etc < 1251202810 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there are better ways still, iirc < 1251202827 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole problem drops like an order or something < 1251202838 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can approximate better < 1251202901 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: anyway all np-complete problems can reduced to each other, the *definition* of np-complete is a problem is in it if it's in np, and all that is in np can be reduced to it. < 1251202931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"np-complete is a problem is in it if it's in np" < 1251202937 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so np-complete subset-of np? < 1251202942 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251202951 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :np-hard is when you drop the requirement of being in np < 1251202952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't know np != np-complete < 1251202978 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok. < 1251202996 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you know what np is? < 1251203009 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I didn't know np != np-complete <-- seriously? < 1251203012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vaguely, I mean I know what's in np and shit < 1251203018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think I know the basics of its definition < 1251203044 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are the basics of its definition? < 1251203048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: please do not act incredulous at a piece of knowledge I lack in future or I will be forced to dig up a billion obvious things you didn't know either < 1251203063 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: do you know what np is? < 1251203065 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it isn't as if you didn't already do that < 1251203067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: not having an O(n) solution, obvs, and then other stuff. i'm sort of tired < 1251203076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: worthless asking AnMaster that, he'll just go look it up on wp < 1251203104 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't mind < 1251203112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, well yes. the complexity class of Non-polynomial problems. IIRC that is non-polynomial in time, non-polynomial for memory being some other class? < 1251203130 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :better that he looks up, learns and lies than that he just doesn't know. < 1251203132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NP is not non-polynomial < 1251203138 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah no :D < 1251203143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's nondeterministic polynomial. < 1251203163 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh mixed it up with np-complete. At least I knew NP != NP-complete < 1251203164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so AnMaster, you seriously just "seriously"'d me for something you don't know yourself :) < 1251203169 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: basically you have a machine that has amb. whatever it does in polynomial time is in np. < 1251203191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well np-complete you can verify in polynomial < 1251203194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is part of the point < 1251203200 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's the other definition < 1251203205 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing really < 1251203211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's exactly the wording on wikipedia < 1251203216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow i doubt the originality of that thought < 1251203248 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the verification idea is more accessible to most ppl, but it's less general, that is, stuff like ATM's are harder to describe like that < 1251203254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it is? I don't have browser open. I don't claim I thought of it myself, I read about it some time ago < 1251203258 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's kinda like learning calculus the intuitive way < 1251203263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm not quoting it "live" < 1251203272 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy and fun, but it's useless if you wanna learn topology later < 1251203275 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :must be a few months ago I last read about np-complete and such < 1251203307 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you can verify *NP* in polynomial time < 1251203320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, right < 1251203321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1251203327 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :np-complete <= np < 1251203336 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: that's exactly the wording on wikipedia <-- what page, just opened browser on np-complete and checked < 1251203341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION popcorn < 1251203342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"# Any given solution to the problem can be verified quickly (in polynomial time); the set of problems with this property is called NP." < 1251203348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't look like the same wording < 1251203353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same meaning yes < 1251203358 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not the same meaning < 1251203359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not same wording < 1251203360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly, AnMaster, it only counts if you copy the bytes 1:1 < 1251203364 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you said np-complete < 1251203367 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the wording i used. < 1251203423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : well np-complete you can verify in polynomial that is part of the point AnMaster: that's exactly the wording on wikipedia < 1251203427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Answer: No < 1251203466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hypothesis: you could kill AnMaster by utilising his urge to smarmily debunk everything you say no matter how long i t takes < 1251203468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*takes < 1251203475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how trivial and offhand your original statement was < 1251203483 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, he'd not have any time for food, drink, sleep etc. < 1251203547 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm far less annoyed by whatever annoying AnMaster did that i didn't notice, than your annoying way to state untrue things about complexity theory without even bothering to memorize the few basic definitions even my mom knows. < 1251203586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes, but I relish in stating things without a "but I'm ignorant and might be wrong", because (a) I consider that implicit in everything I say and (b) it riles you up which is cute. < 1251203739 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay sorry i'm just having my period < 1251203771 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i wouldn't put it past you < 1251203822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, actually I was eating a sandwich while I was chatting above :P < 1251203875 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually my mom has no idea what the whole nondeterministic stuff is all about, even though i've tried to explain it like a gazillion times < 1251203886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes oklopol < 1251203888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is because she is your mom. < 1251203906 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dad usually at least pays attention, then asks something completely stupid that shows he didn't understand a thing :< < 1251203915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251203918 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm like "uhh... sure :(" < 1251203929 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you got it, i'll go read now" < 1251203938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: try and explain something I know nothing about to me, and I will be infuriating < 1251203945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'll be theraputic, whereby theraputic i mean hilarious for me < 1251203979 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i suck at explaining anything nontrivial, because i'll just get all like "uhh... can't you just read the algebra" < 1251204006 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: let us assume, for the sake of infuriation, that i know no algebra whatever (NO JOKES ABOUT THIS BEING TRUE KTHX) < 1251204065 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay do you know what groups are < 1251204082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Nope, because fictional I are mathtardde < 1251204086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :......fix that < 1251204093 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :algebraic structures, one of which a group is, are these things where you have a set of objects, and a few operations between them < 1251204115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what's an algebraic structure, what's a set, what's an object, what's an operation < 1251204152 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i defined algebraic structure already, a set is an unordered collection of objects, object is just anything, operation is a dude who, given some dudes, gives out another dude < 1251204168 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what's ordering, also i don't get what you mean by dude < 1251204172 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and for operation, it's deterministic, it's a function < 1251204173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it like, representing a person? < 1251204183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? what's deterministic? what's function? < 1251204187 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251204191 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why :P? < 1251204209 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P is the class of problems even your colon has enough brain cells to compute in polynomial time < 1251204222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol: Nope, because fictional I are mathtardde <-- grammartard too! < 1251204226 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: well ask your colon to talk to me! < 1251204257 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also even though i could break the ordering thing down, i'm not sure i can break down the definition of a set without introducing predicate calculus < 1251204273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what have pebbles got to do with this < 1251204299 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pebb...les? < 1251204304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251204305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calculus < 1251204308 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, when are you going to start pretending to be stupid? So far you seem like your usual self ;P < 1251204317 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1251204351 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was a pet name for something < 1251204355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I don't get the calculus <=> pebbles joke... < 1251204356 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a dog < 1251204379 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: some of the deadly pebbles in humans are called that < 1251204381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :What have a dog got to do with this? http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1251204383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :small stones and calculus? < 1251204391 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know the ones that form around < 1251204395 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and exploed < 1251204399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol's got it < 1251204405 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeh? < 1251204409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1251204424 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see what my personal internet says < 1251204431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pathology. An abnormal concretion in the body, usually formed of mineral salts and found in the gallbladder, kidney, or urinary bladder, for example. < 1251204443 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should get one of those, it's handy < 1251204446 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean < 1251204447 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :internet < 1251204449 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1251204467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, oh are those called calculus? < 1251204468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1251204476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1251204503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah you said "what *have* pebbless..." < 1251204506 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pebbles < 1251204514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not odd I didn't get the joke. And no interwiki links to Swedish for it. < 1251204516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1251204521 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought has, something about the dude being called pebbles 8| < 1251204522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're just dumb AnMaster < 1251204538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wrong. I just had no clue about the other meaning of the word calculus < 1251204548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1251204606 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: this was the first time i saw the word in actual use < 1251204624 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, ok < 1251204650 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean outside text... i think i've heard it outside a dictionary though < 1251204657 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(irc != text in this context) < 1251204714 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but doesn't the word calculate have something to do with pebbles being used for calculation or something... or maybe it's a mnemonic < 1251204758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, yeah it is how you take the medical product of two vectors < 1251204864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: was that an attempt at a joke? < 1251204880 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: vectors can't be multiplied :P < 1251204910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what do you think < 1251204924 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there are many products for them, but usually in a vector space you don't have a V x V -> V except for addition < 1251204930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I started the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. AMA" < 1251204931 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you want 400 or 401 manbabies? < 1251204932 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your choice. < 1251204956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, indeed. but I was just making a reference to "dot product", something I'm sure you know about < 1251204990 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure < 1251204995 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :............................but it wasn't............funny < 1251205015 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't say whether it was funny or not, i didn't get it, even though i got the reference < 1251205044 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something from math, something from medicine, spliced together, like ehird did with calculus < 1251205047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, wikipedia page was Calculus (medical) for the other meaning of calculus < 1251205049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :get it now? < 1251205060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, exploding stones < 1251205076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploding? huh < 1251205083 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251205086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't you listen to oklopol < 1251205111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh eh < 1251205117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plural is calculi heh < 1251205154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Latin! Ha. < 1251205221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's a common plural of "us" < 1251205235 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the exception is cactuxes < 1251205307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: isn't it cactuci < 1251205322 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cactodes < 1251205328 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no Deewiant < 1251205339 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No?! < 1251205343 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been living a lie < 1251205350 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1251205356 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Excuse me while I jump out of the window -> < 1251205382 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote no Deewiant No?! I've been living a lie yep. Excuse me while I jump out of the window -> < 1251205383 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :77| no Deewiant No?! I've been living a lie yep. Excuse me while I jump out of the window -> < 1251205391 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<- < 1251205396 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It didn't open far enough, oh well. < 1251205398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb Deewiant < 1251205400 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did it go? < 1251205401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1251205426 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: 14.85 is what i get for at most 30% error: 5.80, 3.55, 3.35, 2.15 < 1251205441 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: what about at most 0.1% error < 1251205448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251205448 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was optimal until that < 1251205466 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1251205469 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1251205473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, wrong window < 1251205481 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1500 for 20% :P < 1251205496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I want to suck your cock err, wrong window < 1251205496 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've never gotten even near the theoretical worst case < 1251205499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hm err, wrong window < 1251205515 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster is terrified that we'll mistakenly attribute incorrect context to his hmming. < 1251205535 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what would need to happen is that the greedy solution be close to its worst case < 1251205558 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it usually finds the correct solution for random input < 1251205563 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least very close to it < 1251205566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :random dingbut < 1251205567 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbutt < 1251205569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dingbat < 1251205569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1251205572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kat < 1251205572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat < 1251205574 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feline < 1251205576 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure you all know what "the greedy algo" is for knapsack < 1251205579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :input → feline < 1251205606 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster is terrified that we'll mistakenly attribute incorrect context to his hmming. <-- yes that would be horrible < 1251205624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other end of the spectrum is augur < 1251205635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when he says "I want to suck your cock", it's hard to even find out which channel he meant < 1251205641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like, his catchphrase < 1251205646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other people go "er", augur goes that < 1251205744 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, the fact the greedy solution is a 0.5 approximation is "folklore" according to one of the papers :P < 1251205757 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's such a fun term < 1251206057 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-169-5-210.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1251206146 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, to knapsack? < 1251206153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, AnMaster. < 1251206156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1251206158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To knapsack is a funny term. < 1251206181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, [greedy solution] to knapsack ;P < 1251206183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1251206188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny as a verb too < 1251206190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1251206213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but you are ehirding I see. < 1251206221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1251206272 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are both being very funnoying < 1251206272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbiab, going to suspend laptop to move to another building, any scrollback before I announce I'm back will likely be missing due to forgetting to exiting client at home. < 1251206283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1251206956 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-19-134.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251207193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo <-- last line for me < 1251207205 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1251207224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed a very important line < 1251207229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're so proud < 1251207276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://images.google.se/images?q=vaniljmunk&hl=sv <-- what's that in English < 1251207291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :biscuit < 1251207304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah, that is broader < 1251207309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er no < 1251207311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :biscuit < 1251207318 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oh that < 1251207324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, vanilla or chocolate filled? < 1251207338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a poetry < 1251207344 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err? < 1251207345 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no wait < 1251207351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a doughnut < 1251207353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no wait < 1251207359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a building < 1251207363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doughnut with no hole in it < 1251207365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1251207370 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and vanilla filled < 1251207370 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a building < 1251207409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh right, multiple pictures :P < 1251207423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an infinity < 1251207440 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doughnut with no hole in it, filled with vanilla cream, and lots of sugar on top < 1251207445 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1251207451 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a falafel, AnMaster < 1251207470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and it is topologically un-equivalent to a coffee cup! < 1251207475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a falafel, AnMaster < 1251207497 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, nah that is something else says google < 1251207504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's wrong < 1251207510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in idiomatic usage < 1251207517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a falafel < 1251207521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1251207523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the uk < 1251207530 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, this is what I'm talking about: http://www.delicato.se/produkt/big/41_appeloch_vaniljmunk.jpg (but no apple in the one I ate) < 1251207541 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :falafel, in the uk < 1251207546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least < 1251207554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falafel < 1251207562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1251207572 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not what it means here < 1251207584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, your dialect? < 1251207589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess? < 1251207593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1251207597 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dynamite? < 1251207603 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, heh < 1251207606 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...heh? < 1251207608 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :8| < 1251207615 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DID YOU JUST GET MY JOKE? < 1251207622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i doubt ir < 1251207624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1251207625 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-qwkaclrktgyxvywq JOIN :#esoteric < 1251207637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, well there was two possible joke-y interpretations of that at least. < 1251207643 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe you < 1251207652 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, not sure I got the one you intended < 1251207663 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... just said dynamite, sorry :P < 1251207667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl again (scrollback rules above apply) < 1251207669 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xDDDDDDDDDDD < 1251207671 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :need to go wash like dishes and stuff < 1251207686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: wtf were the "jokes" < 1251207757 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"reboot" < 1251207806 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251208211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : need to go wash like dishes and stuff <-- last line this time < 1251208218 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: wtf were the "jokes" < 1251208231 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ? < 1251208236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that < 1251208243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgot < 1251208245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:41 < 1251208245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :] < 1251208245 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :member:oklopol < 1251208246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :: < 1251208246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... just said dynamite, sorry :P < 1251208262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah, turned out he didn't joke intentionally < 1251208266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1251208270 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that quote format is fucked < 1251208284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, try at least keep it on one line for one irc line? ok? < 1251208287 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what were the """"""""""jokes""" < 1251208293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, no. < 1251208300 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, forgot < 1251208309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh huh < 1251208311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suuuuuuuuure < 1251208324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well remember one. will give you a hint: roadrunner < 1251208325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1251208353 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW IS THAT RELATED TO DOUGHNUTS < 1251208745 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, for some reason, dynamite is the reason you thought falafels were like that < 1251208779 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i don't think you have any attributes of either coyotes or roadrunners, so i don't see how that works < 1251208791 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe there was some other way i could've meant it < 1251208826 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there's the obvious "maybe you both explode so i don't have to watch you arguing all day?" < 1251208831 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think that was #1 < 1251209280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, oh and calculus < 1251209382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, calculate dot product for a coyote(*) throwing a normal sized(**) dynamite stick. < 1251209406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*) standing at origio, looking along x axis at road runner < 1251209416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(**) Cartoon standards for normal sized < 1251209443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(***) No, it isn't supposed to make sense, if it does, it is just a coincidence! < 1251209685 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are crazier than i am :P < 1251209783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, thanks < 1251209975 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-181-73.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251210341 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-19-134.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251210379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? no zsnes package in ubuntu < 1251210381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1251210386 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea about that < 1251210448 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no x86_64 one < 1251210458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that works with multilib so wth < 1251211292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl going home < 1251213575 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Page closed" < 1251214567 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@129.27.148.233 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251214806 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1251214881 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1251215147 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1251215469 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251215481 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oklopol, calculate dot product for a coyote(*) throwing a normal sized(**) dynamite stick. <-- clearly the dot product must be zero, since by cartoon physics the stick will always explode at the site of the coyote itself < 1251215505 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of how convoluted a path it takes to get there < 1251215611 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251216933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, correct! < 1251217013 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-2-42.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251217120 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, now calculate the path < 1251217199 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is not deterministic < 1251217216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, correct word by word heh < 1251217235 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it follows the principle that whatever path you calculate, that will certainly be nowhere close to the actual path taken < 1251217241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, DID YOU COPY IT FROM THE TEXT BOOK? < 1251217242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1251217255 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't seen the text book < 1251217259 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1251217264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that's what SHE said ;P < 1251217268 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you watch it in cartoon form < 1251217282 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that would be one awesome linear algebra course < 1251217292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, heh < 1251217338 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and to clarify AnMaster's joke, she said that to you, that *you* haven't seen the text book. of you know sex. because she thought you sucked. < 1251217389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, err... I lost track of the prepositions in there < 1251217412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, to oerjan < 1251217413 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1251217429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the highlight colour confused me < 1251217433 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hah your secret identity has been revealed, joke_explainer < 1251217496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, reference to mezacotta? < 1251217498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(spelling?) < 1251217504 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, to reddit < 1251217528 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh I don't readd it < 1251217543 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait that didn't work well < 1251217544 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :joke_explainer is a commenter account there, which explains jokes < 1251217558 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :instead of looking like a pun on reddit, it looks like re-add < 1251217578 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suggest you resubtract that pun, then < 1251217584 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, augh < 1251217589 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no no joke *clarifier* < 1251217635 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no use explaining away my logic, that's no joke < 1251217644 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, maybe it is < 1251217649 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, that is no explaination... < 1251217659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry for that one) < 1251217671 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can i be a joke not understander when it comes to the current pun < 1251217675 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*explanation < 1251217689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, that's no moon. Get it? < 1251217699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes but the typo made it actually true instead < 1251217700 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes but you'll have to pay an extra surcharge < 1251217700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;P < 1251217706 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no not really :\ < 1251217713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, Star Wars? < 1251217719 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seen it? < 1251217729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, episode 4, which was the first one produced < 1251217731 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen some of them when they were new < 1251217733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with Luke, and so on < 1251217746 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they say < 1251217757 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that's no moon" about some huge mothership < 1251217770 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the DEATH STAR, oklopol < 1251217776 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a huge mothership < 1251217794 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose < 1251217795 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is death star the one that looks like a moon < 1251217813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1251217815 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is rougly spherical, yes < 1251217818 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*roughly < 1251217843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suck at popular culture... but seriously oklopol... you are worse < 1251217856 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1251217858 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it is probably not big enough that a moon that size would have to be spherical < 1251217873 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure of this < 1251217877 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i take that as a compliment, even though i doubt it < 1251217882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not sure of the scale in there < 1251217900 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, also physics can go fuck itself in star wars... < 1251217907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously, hyper space? < 1251217910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :antigravity? < 1251217935 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to invent some way of ftl for a galactic civ, hyperspace is as good as any < 1251217937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and: what happened to inertia? < 1251217957 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, worm holes seems at least slightly less implausible < 1251217959 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :antigravity and inertia breaking are more or less equivalent, i should think < 1251217993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well, what about biology then. Is every planet just one type of terrain? < 1251218001 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and hyperspace implies inertia breaking, doesn't it < 1251218016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, depends on how you implement it... < 1251218017 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION points out that the Star Wars implausability debate is that way -> < 1251218034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :city planet, desert planet, forest planet, water planet (iirc, wasn't it where the clones came from) < 1251218039 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-and < 1251218047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so on < 1251218048 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a simple physics question < 1251218051 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't give a shit about sw < 1251218054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and ice planet < 1251218074 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just watch american tv shows < 1251218083 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't watch tv nowdays < 1251218090 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me neither, but i watch tv shows < 1251218092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and very seldom movies as well < 1251218097 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hyperspace i cannot say what it implies < 1251218098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or tv shows < 1251218118 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: not simple enough for you huh?? < 1251218123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hyperspace could imply folding space time itself. There are issues with that too of course... < 1251218136 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well some of those are plausible, given vast difference in planet composition or climate < 1251218141 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i just meant if it's > light speed, you need to break inertia because there'd be an infinite amount of it < 1251218147 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah dunno hey i haven't idea < 1251218148 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a forest planet seems a bit off < 1251218165 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and what about those animals on the ice plantet < 1251218173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you know, that han solo was riding on for example < 1251218185 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they made of ice < 1251218202 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: biology is rarely the strong point of popular scifi i should think ;D < 1251218208 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't imagine that planet supporting the required food. Like you know, plants, predators and all that < 1251218216 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe like a snow man that can fly < 1251218220 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*snowman < 1251218268 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol - Making comments that could possibly be considered to be slightly relevant in the right light since < 1251218320 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Various sources state the first Death Star has a diameter between 120 and 160 kilometers." < 1251218381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, is that canon? < 1251218389 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's from wikipedia < 1251218400 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm it's bigger than phobos and deimos < 1251218416 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's not a comment, it's a question < 1251218419 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are they made of ice < 1251218465 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh and why didn't they put the shield generator inside the second death star? I always wondered. Sure it wouldn't be possible early on, but at the point in the movie it had already reached a large enough size to support the generator station shown on ground in the movie < 1251218467 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The original draft of the 2006 IAU resolution redefined hydrostatic equilibrium shape as applying "to objects with mass above 5 × 1020 kg and diameter greater than 800 km"" < 1251218480 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, eh? < 1251218489 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in other words, a moon the size of the death star would not necessarily be spherical < 1251218496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1251218503 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: also it's made of pure metal < 1251218504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well earth isn't spherical either < 1251218509 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet#Size_and_mass) < 1251218526 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I would assume they would use composite materials too < 1251218536 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: hydrostatic equilibrium is the technical term < 1251218548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what does it has to do with water < 1251218554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I assume "hydro" there is about < 1251218559 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i mean, it's harder to break than rock. < 1251218566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, well yes < 1251218571 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it'd be too easy to blast into pieces < 1251218581 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmm < 1251218614 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: water flows, and therefore always reaches equilibrium < 1251218620 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what i'm saying is HSE would apply even less < 1251218648 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for a planet, it must have gravity strong enough to overcome the strength of its material, iiuc < 1251218672 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean that's the definition? < 1251218678 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1251218680 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah no < 1251218683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yeah, but weren't it like... molten... back when it formed. Due to impact and such < 1251218687 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what do you mean must? < 1251218689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1251218693 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe depends on size < 1251218729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway my point was that molten material would form more easy in a sphere shape than cold rock < 1251218756 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well yeah but it would still collapse into a rounded form if it were solid throughout, iiuc < 1251218760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, "must to be round" < 1251218769 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh? < 1251218798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, wouldn't it make the rock crack and such < 1251218809 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it was just a bunch of stones flying around < 1251218813 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well duh the rock cracking is how it collapses < 1251218825 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um no because it's attracted toward the center < 1251218839 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, plus it seems to manage ok on earth, Earth isn't a perfect sphere, and earth is definitely large enough < 1251218864 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it's only a bit on the surface though < 1251218881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes but what would "fuse" them together again? Or maybe that wouldn't be needed < 1251218887 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hm true < 1251218911 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the huge pressure deeper inside that cannot be withstood < 1251219069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, right < 1251219082 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it's not necessarily a perfect sphere, because rotation changes the equilibrium form, so earth's bulge at the equator is not an exception to this < 1251219129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, about the only plausible "one terrain" planet in Star Wars would be the gas giant with that city in it.... Though the floating city could be disputed of course... < 1251219153 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The amount of leeway afforded the definition could affect the classification of the asteroid Vesta, which appears to have solidified while in hydrostatic equilibrium but to have subsequently been significantly deformed by a large impact." < 1251219184 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ shows that your moltenness comment can apply to some cases < 1251219200 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, i know he meant "must be round", i asked *why* it must be round < 1251219207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah. Where it wasn't hydro-whatever after it became solid? ok < 1251219213 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1251219214 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1251219216 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, ...? < 1251219227 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: or at least after the impact < 1251219235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, fair enough < 1251219244 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: for a planet, it must have gravity strong enough to overcome the strength of its material, iiuc <<< why must it have that strong a gravity? < 1251219260 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it part of the definition < 1251219265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, your question is highly nonsensical < 1251219268 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1251219269 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes, since 2006 < 1251219280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about pluto < 1251219284 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :planet and dwarf planet includes that < 1251219284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it big enough? < 1251219307 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but it doesn't satisfy the further requirement for non-dwarf < 1251219314 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I do not have sat Internet any more. < 1251219315 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: since 2006 part of the definition, or the question actually made no sense, and you were going with a continuation on AnMaster's "making weird comments since..." joke? < 1251219324 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have campus Internet < 1251219328 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is awesome. < 1251219335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh? < 1251219342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, speed? < 1251219350 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean why wouldn't that question make sense < 1251219363 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I myself have access to is 100mbps. < 1251219363 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, why do gravity exist? < 1251219370 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i don't know what AnMaster was talking about ;D < 1251219378 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm limited by Ethernet speeds) < 1251219380 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: okay, good < 1251219380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, lucky you. I only have wlan on campus < 1251219384 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure what the speed is < 1251219389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will check tomorrow I guess < 1251219399 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: not all things in space have enough gravity to break their own material < 1251219406 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say a toy car you throw in there < 1251219415 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its gravity will not crack it. < 1251219425 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, also 100 mbps ethernet? < 1251219429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, are you joking? < 1251219441 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm asking why a planet must have such a gravity, it's not obvious that's part of the definition, why would it be < 1251219442 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: isn't a desert planet also plausible given that there is almost no water on it? (which i recall was canonically explained as due to a war disaster btw) < 1251219443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 Gbps since years < 1251219446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is common < 1251219459 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, or is your computer too old for that < 1251219463 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and ice, given that it is freaking _cold_ < 1251219498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and still supports large animals? < 1251219507 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: floating city isn't that bad, there have been suggestions of doing that on venus < 1251219507 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the bit I'm having trouble with < 1251219510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for ice planets < 1251219521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, okay. With what? < 1251219525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anti-gravity? < 1251219533 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: balloons < 1251219550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh. I guess they will have to ban all sharp objects < 1251219555 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i'm not going to try explaining away star wars biology :D < 1251219579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, city planet is also bothering me < 1251219589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND WHY NO RAILS (I know IWC mentioned this a lot) < 1251219598 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: or airships? they're not _that_ vulnerable if well-designed. although recall extreme winds was a problem on venus < 1251219622 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: coruscant bothers _everyone_. i thought you read iwc ;D < 1251219630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes I do < 1251219634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, but < 1251219656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't I complain myself as well? < 1251219675 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you mean you are finally liberated from the satellites? < 1251219687 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The dorms are 80 years old, the Ethernet is 10 years old. < 1251219698 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have yet to rennovate. < 1251219709 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes. < 1251219759 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations < 1251219857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ah < 1251219867 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what is latency? < 1251219926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100ms < 1251220263 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, to what server < 1251220395 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google < 1251220658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how much of that is on the uni network? < 1251220929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About 10 hops. < 1251220939 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It then does several Internet2 hops. < 1251220990 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's an Internet2? < 1251220995 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1251221030 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a network of higher education institutions that has rather ridiculous speeds. < 1251221032 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1251221054 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The backbone is about 100 Gbps. < 1251221149 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, that's the link between each node. < 1251221239 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, wow you are on internet2 :D < 1251221250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, that's like awesome < 1251221495 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so universities decided to make a new internet now that the old one is mainstream < 1251221515 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just wasn't cool anymore < 1251221520 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, actually I think it was to test higher speed and such < 1251221537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, iirc they managed several gbps in tests < 1251221548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :between mainland US and Hawaii < 1251221555 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it wasn't just because they thought it'd be cool? i see. < 1251221641 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :several gbps isn't really that hard to do, just have a lot of wires :P < 1251221682 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming we don't care about latency and similar uninteresting practicalities < 1251221790 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've been trying to drink my coke for about 7 hours now, but every time i open it, it starts spouting everywhere :< < 1251221797 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it was in the fridge a few days) < 1251221956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, low latency too < 1251222046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, also you can easily get tbps burst rate. Just ship a container full of harddrives. Latency: huge. Burst bandwidth: Huge. Sustained bandwidth: Low. < 1251222062 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1251222097 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can sustain a bandwidth by having them go back and forth all the time! < 1251222113 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like millions of them, so there's one burst a second < 1251222117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, that would require a lot of containers and people filling them up at the same time < 1251222138 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, and yeah exactly < 1251222158 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be the most awesomest network ever < 1251222194 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually you trade further latency for getting smaller burst distances < 1251222220 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by stacking requests up for say a year, then moving to the other side, starting to empty them in the same order and speed < 1251222233 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: have you tried opening it just a tiny bit to let out the gas? < 1251222245 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i've done that every 5 minutes for the whole time :P < 1251222253 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1251222263 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the coke starts rising, until it's right under the gap and i need to close it < 1251222274 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :takes ages for it to drop back < 1251222281 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*cap < 1251222286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, what causes it < 1251222288 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It's not so much "a new Internet" as it is "really fast Internet links". < 1251222294 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, is it due to the drink being cold or? < 1251222300 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok next idea find a bucket to open it in ;D < 1251222305 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(since the whole thing is Internet-routable) < 1251222308 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i know, it was just a bad joke on the fact the first internet started as a uni experiment too. < 1251222310 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1251222314 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmkay. < 1251222342 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1251222379 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or how did it go again < 1251222385 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can't memorize history < 1251222411 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :defense experiment afaik < 1251222415 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1251222421 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1251222427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, restarting client for upgrade < 1251222428 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the uni network pioneered something < 1251222429 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1251222448 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1251222448 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well dunno, doesn't matter < 1251222478 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, have to look out the window < 1251222480 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1251222553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1251222561 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just meant I lost scrollback < 1251222700 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'll never know the wicked things we said about you < 1251222705 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, whoops < 1251222819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders why the hell he only gets sound on one ear < 1251222835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks at confusing mixer controls < 1251222857 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't headphones, they give sound on both ears on the laptop < 1251222873 0 :MigoMipo!n=MigoMipo@84-217-10-47.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251222916 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh great. fuck alsa < 1251222954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fuck kmix even more. at least alsamixer showed what was wrong < 1251223132 0 :Slereah!n=butt@ANantes-259-1-63-101.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251223797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is going on < 1251223805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :joystick no longer found under 2.6.30 kernels? < 1251223806 0 :Slereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251223829 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251223834 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251224812 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251224927 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251227617 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-58-57.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251227747 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1251227776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rudder pedals show up as a joystick (as expected), joystick and throttle doesn't, it shows up as a raw device < 1251227787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this worked last week and it is broken on both computers < 1251227797 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what is likely? broken joystick? :( < 1251228596 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251229348 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-16-195.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251230299 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251232118 0 :puzzlet_!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251232872 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251233377 0 :pingveno!n=quassel@c-24-21-252-237.hsd1.or.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251233613 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1251233635 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-24-160.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1251233926 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1251235794 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION had a great day today < 1251235844 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good, good < 1251235990 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that imply not all of your days are great, ARE YOU SAYING YOUR LIFE SUCKS? < 1251236008 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no < 1251236012 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1251236016 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then good, good < 1251236025 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but few of my days qualify as being 'great' < 1251236026 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1251236044 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mine neither, but uni starts soon \o/ < 1251236046 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my school has a new tech-savy AP; it's going to be awesome < 1251236056 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AP? < 1251236074 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assistant Principle < 1251236091 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he actually asked if I used SQL < 1251236120 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1251236272 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure how that's going to affect you < 1251236476 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: having a good administration is a good thing. And as the most tech-savy student (probably person) in the school, I stand to be first in line if he reaches out to the student body (actually, there's one other, but he's better at using computers, not running them) < 1251236563 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so do you mean like what computer stuff your school should buy < 1251236632 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I mean how computers will be used in the school. The board is afraid of computers; the AP said he wants to push as much as he can < 1251236666 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1251236690 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is Good < 1251236721 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and positive interaction with the administration is a good thing... it's amazing how many perks you can get by just asking an AP < 1251236730 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or even the principal < 1251237042 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks simple smileys like :) and :( should be allowed in formal communication < 1251237168 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automated Pelican < 1251237185 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Astronomer's Pork < 1251237206 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acronym plague < 1251237207 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alphabet Porn < 1251237314 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Access Point? < 1251237557 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aardvark Poacher < 1251237907 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aqueduct Pipe < 1251237931 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Analytical Positivist < 1251237978 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1251238051 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adequate Plum < 1251238214 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anal Plumage < 1251238227 0 :GregorR!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess that doesn't make sense with "an" < 1251238334 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an anal anatic anathema < 1251238405 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*anatid < 1251238631 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1251238664 0 :pingveno!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer) < 1251238668 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1251239907 0 :olsner!n=salparot@h-60-96.A163.priv.bahnhof.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1251240078 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251240092 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1251240309 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"QuitIRCServerException: MigoMipo disconnected from IRC Server" < 1251240621 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1251242767 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1251244128 0 :puzzlet_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1251244133 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1251244552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:28:09 oklopol, that's no moon. Get it? < 1251244553 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can I kill you over the internet. < 1251244568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:29:55 is death star the one that looks like a moon < 1251244569 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1251244674 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't get the moon joke < 1251244687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't a joke, he was just quoting star wars < 1251244693 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny, you see, to quote things you know.