< 1253232026 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-086-102.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1253232035 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right you need to recheck the _whole_ string at each step unless being clever... < 1253232083 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the program uses the generic algorithm (at least the first version used). Its tractable, but... < 1253232113 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait i'm thinking somehow backwards at this, it's _mismatches_ one should find not matches < 1253232114 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The latter versions only store the entries that match. This speeds up the matching a lot. < 1253232188 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, the interpretter did the matching tentatively against all four, and then picked one of them and added it to main tables. < 1253232471 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall reading that at least the earley parser gets more efficient if the grammar has less ambiguity, being O(n) if it's actually LR(1) for example < 1253232516 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It keeps table of all subsequences of committed characters that match a production. < 1253232528 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1253232553 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, only those that can possibly fit at that point (for earley) < 1253232734 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't the simplest to implement though iirc (never really tried myself) < 1253232812 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The reference implementation uses CYK algorithm. < 1253232909 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the symbol table is treated as sparse (big memory savings and big speedup). < 1253233131 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however CYK requires you to know the whole string in advance, doesn't it, at least in the version the wikipedia pseudocode shows < 1253233166 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you cannot cache information that is still relevant when adding the next character < 1253233167 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It matches against all four candidates in each step (and then commits one of the characters). < 1253233189 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose you could adjust it to do it though < 1253233211 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One subsequence has gotten fixed, the symbols matching it stay fixed. < 1253233219 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*once < 1253233229 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm right < 1253233337 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.moock.org/ gotta love the decorative design < 1253233340 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait, it's horrible < 1253233362 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Could have, you know, ROTATED the thing at least so it's readable < 1253233600 0 :jix!n=jix@dyndsl-095-033-086-102.ewe-ip-backbone.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1253235759 0 :Patashu!n=Patashu@c122-106-162-185.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1253236969 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253237506 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lonelydino.com/?id=39 Hahahilarity! < 1253238075 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1253239082 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know? The https means your personal information is blocked! It's true, I read it in a newspaper clipping that was on the wall of my college's Computer Information Systems building! < 1253239109 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEAT < 1253239297 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote from my book on management: < 1253239345 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Cellular phone companies are hustling to find ways to compete with iPhone's amazing touch screen and its ability to watch YouTube through a WiFi network. This has scared broadband companies who wonder if iPhone will make them irrelevant one day soon." < 1253240205 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1253242157 0 :amca!n=amca@CPE-121-208-82-97.qld.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1253242871 0 :amca_!n=amca@CPE-121-208-82-97.qld.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1253243301 0 :amca!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1253243398 0 :amca_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :amca < 1253244136 0 :augur!n=augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1253244628 0 :amca!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1253244657 0 :amca!n=amca@CPE-121-208-82-97.qld.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1253244944 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1253245727 0 :amca!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :No route to host < 1253245752 0 :amca!n=amca@CPE-121-208-82-97.qld.bigpond.net.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1253246068 0 :amca!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Farewell" < 1253247554 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1253247571 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1253247586 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..what just happened? < 1253247598 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was there a netsplit? < 1253247660 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i noticed < 1253247683 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05:19 = Sgeo [n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net] quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) < 1253248265 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253249866 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253251810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1253255894 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"mov.i #1,1" < 1253256761 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1253257627 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-156-97-40.range86-156.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1253260050 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@AAnnecy-751-1-20-254.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253260799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1253260800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1253261025 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@LRouen-152-83-15-79.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253262234 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1253263245 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1253263462 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253264837 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1253275557 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@p5B135339.dip.t-dialin.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1253275903 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253278955 0 :jix!n=jix@95.33.86.102 JOIN :#esoteric < 1253279576 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-ufxfizjofzudqcoz JOIN :#esoteric < 1253281075 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1253281102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may have the flu. :( < 1253281443 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nowadays you never know if it's the flu or THE flu. < 1253281467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well, I don't know if it is just a bad cold or the flu. 38.5 in temperature < 1253281478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err that was a Swedishism I think < 1253281505 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(wrong preposition in English) < 1253281606 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did 38.4 degrees or so last weekend, but it's mostly gone now. One of the other people working in this room didn't come to work today, though, so maybe I just passed it on. < 1253282513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha at iwc today < 1253282515 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really great < 1253286113 0 :Patashu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Patashu/SteampunkX - MSN = Patashu@hotmail.com , AIM = Patashu0 , YIM = Patashu2 ." < 1253286508 0 :ais523!n=ais523@92-236-187-64.cable.ubr08.king.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1253286747 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1253286841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just noticed there is a rather hard to notice sticker on the base of my monitor, that ways "works with windows vista"... a bit strange since it is a TFT with only VGA connection. How could it *not* work? < 1253286907 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's for people who don't know that it obviously works, sticker or no. < 1253286917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1253287508 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it presumably works with Linux too < 1253287530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... but surely, what matters is the video card in the computer it's linking to, not the OS? < 1253287769 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you tell the difference between a normal cold and the flu < 1253287814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, VGA is a standard. So as long as you have that or a DVI->VGA converter... < 1253287830 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC flu leaves you more or less immobile and unwilling to do anything, whereas you can live through a cold < 1253287831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about displayport, hdmi and so on < 1253287841 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm thinking of computers so old that they don't have VGA ports < 1253287847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm, what about in the early stages < 1253287850 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the BBC Micro I used to have < 1253287863 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which had just a TV-encoded output < 1253287876 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I think those people who know about them nowdays will know what the sticker really means :P < 1253287914 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION imagines trying to run Vista on a BBC Micro B
< 1253287916 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't work at all < 1253287920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, plus I doubt the sticker will be false, since I doubt that system could run vista < 1253287924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even in a emulator < 1253287942 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one thing, it wouldn't have any available screen resolutions that Vista would be able to comprehend < 1253287967 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanted to go as high as 16 colours, the screen res was something awful like 160x120 < 1253287977 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you could get a better screen res by reducing the colour depth < 1253287988 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, was it below 640x480? < 1253287993 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :easily < 1253287997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1253288015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what is the resolution during boot of modern PCs? < 1253288020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like that iirc? < 1253288030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :640x480's easily enough for text < 1253288034 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't care about the font < 1253288051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well yes, but I meant, isn't that what is used during bios and such even on modern PCs? < 1253288057 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it some even lower res? < 1253288072 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is 640x480 but I'm not sure < 1253288093 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wikipedia says 640x256 was the best resolution it could get < 1253288123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, that would be rather... widescreen? < 1253288146 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it was 640x256 for a 2-colour display (black and one other) < 1253288156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, "the other one"? < 1253288156 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could double the colour choice by halving the horizontal resolution < 1253288177 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, for instance, 320x256 gave you 4 colours, 160x256 gave you eight < 1253288200 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, those are some weird shaped pixels < 1253288208 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still rectangular < 1253288214 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bear in mind that this was aiming for a TV screen < 1253288220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, not even close to square < 1253288231 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the horizontal length of pixels is determined by the length of time you send the signal for < 1253288243 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :under the standard TV protocol, length of time = distance horizontally < 1253288244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm.. < 1253288323 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there were some weird resolutions for the text modes, too < 1253288338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an 80x25 text terminal would be 640x200 in terms of pixels < 1253288338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, those were for graphics? < 1253288342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1253288343 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes < 1253288356 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so in the text mode the hardware draw the text rather than the software? < 1253288359 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1253288369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, why? < 1253288370 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back then, hardware was cheap in comparison to REM < 1253288372 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*RAM < 1253288378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1253288401 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps DRAM hadn't been invented at the time, or perhaps there was some other reason < 1253288457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... DRAM became practical around 1973, the BBC Micro dates from the 1980s < 1253288464 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's possible that it wasn't in common use in computers then < 1253288472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that prices hadn't come down < 1253288482 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and SRAM, which is a lot more obvious of a design, is rather expensive even nowadays < 1253288498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about being common < 1253288516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any guess when SSD may be more common than harddrives? < 1253288537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least be equal or better in price, capacity and speed. < 1253288548 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... I don't know < 1253288554 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my guess is it won't take too long < 1253288561 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how long did USB sticks take to overtake CDs? < 1253288569 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, they haven't yet? < 1253288572 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it'll be similar < 1253288575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or have they? < 1253288578 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: in the UK they seem to have < 1253288597 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CDs are still used for music bought in shops, and installation media < 1253288599 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not for much else < 1253288616 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so CDs have pretty much become an archival format rather than an everyday sort of thing < 1253288623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, games and software is sold on a) usb sticks b) cd/dvd c) floppies d) tapes < 1253288626 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and installation media's more commonly DVD nowadays) < 1253288640 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: DVDs, but installation media isn't what I was thinking of < 1253288649 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking of consumer use < 1253288654 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, what else was dvd and cd ever commonly used for? < 1253288662 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :burning iso images for installing linux yes < 1253288666 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: file transfer? backups? < 1253288674 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boot media, as you say < 1253288674 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, network? < 1253288692 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: file transfer via network isn't all that common, unless you have Internet access < 1253288704 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and I have at least one computer that can't boot from usb < 1253288710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and even in buisness and such, floppy disks or CDs used to be more common than network transfer < 1253288713 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one I'm sure can, the third I'm not sure about < 1253288716 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nowadays it's all USB stick < 1253288718 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sticks < 1253288725 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and since I'm using it atm, I can't easily check in bios < 1253288725 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people can't be bothered to learn how to work the network transfer < 1253288761 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I tend to scp stuff I need to move around, or if it is really large transfer, nfs (only over trusted lan obviously) < 1253288785 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I think you're unusual in that respect; the sort of people who inhabit #esoteric understand networks < 1253288788 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but most people don't < 1253288805 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I use nfs while I'm at university, but most people use USB sticks < 1253288806 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I don't understand networks. routing tables is black magic to me < 1253288813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if for ipv6 < 1253288820 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you understand you can send information over them, rather than just looking at web pages < 1253288839 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well yes? But lots of people work at offices with network printers. < 1253288855 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and have shared profiles over network < 1253288865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all in windows management hell < 1253288868 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they don't understand how the network printers work, they just know they have to select certain settings in the dialog boxes < 1253288886 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and as for the shared profiles, nearly every non-student with one I know doesn't know how they work or what they are < 1253288893 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, they tend to be unused < 1253288903 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people just associate the username/password with the machine < 1253288912 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1253288912 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and save files to the machine not the profile < 1253288974 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, btw, the computers for the technical/natural science courses at uni are set up a bit strange, you have "my documents" on the network. But the desktop is on the local computer, and is cleaned when you log out. On the other hand you have several GB of "free" storage there, while the persistent storage area is something like 100 MB < 1253288993 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much the same here < 1253288994 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they all run English win xp pro btw < 1253288998 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it must be saner to maintain < 1253289013 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have much of an idea of what administrating Windows networks is like < 1253289026 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although on several occasions, technicians have had to walk around and make the same change to every computer on the network manually < 1253289036 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because their ssh-equivalents didn't work for what they wanted to do < 1253289045 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, and I guess the tech/natural sience ppl sometimes needs *LOTS* of temporary storage. < 1253289054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike most other parts of the uni < 1253289094 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, it's something much simpler than that I think; lots of things save on the desktop by default so it has to be writeable, and you get lots of helpdesk calls when the desktop isn't the same every time you log in < 1253289098 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it has to be wiped when you log out < 1253289106 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, btw on the computer I used a few days ago there was over 200 GB free on desktop < 1253289116 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the computers have large hard drives, presumably < 1253289128 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not for any particularly good reason, just because those were the specs they were persuaded to buy < 1253289142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well yes, since there was nearly equal amount used by lots of apps, like chem lab apps and what not. < 1253289162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :think it was 450 GB disk < 1253289174 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1253289180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, interesting to note is that computers at other parts of the uni are *much* weaker < 1253289201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :often small cases, that look like it could be a thin client (they aren't quite that though) < 1253289207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/it/they/ < 1253289236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it is just in the lab rooms that they are that overpowered < 1253289571 0 :inc0!n=inc0@anl28.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1253289739 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, know any non-rougelike (RPG is fine!), non-strategy open source game with a very non-linear/open-ended game world? < 1253289761 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1253289764 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1253289823 0 :inc0!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1253290409 0 :sebbu!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-91-27.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253290792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253290931 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1253291092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Excess Flood < 1253291114 0 :AnMaster!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1253294645 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lawlabeethewallaby.com/ < 1253294850 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was it worth it? < 1253295843 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1253296468 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1253296578 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@LRouen-152-83-15-79.w80-13.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253297516 0 :augur!n=augur@129-2-135-217.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1253299521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, testing thing after bouncer upgrade < 1253299522 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they made a noise like someone trying to organise yet another bucket chain from the river and it was. < 1253299525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah good works < 1253299546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(was seeing +/- at start of line when I shouldn't (since client handles it) < 1253299547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1253302918 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1253310537 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, iwc! < 1253311004 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our work-workstations have around 160G disks, of which 130G is mounted at /users/ and usable for any large data files you only need locally. It generally isn't so very useful disk space since it's not visible from the computing cluster, unlike the NFS shares. < 1253311929 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1253311988 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: read it hours ago ;D < 1253312029 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks he finally realized the logic he was missing for solving killer sudoku puzzles
< 1253312707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1253312776 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i realized you can use the sum of cages to deduce sums of remaining regions even if you don't know the actual content < 1253312780 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@AAnnecy-751-1-20-254.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253312816 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until now i had only considered the sum of a cage in isolation, to deduce what could be inside it < 1253312834 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(notation from simon tatham's puzzle help) < 1253312896 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sudoku is called "solo" in the tatham puzzle collection, btw) < 1253312948 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(killer is one of the type options for it) < 1253313014 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw if you don't know what killer sudoku is, it's like sudoku except you get no initial cell values - instead you get an additional division into "cages", and are given the sum of the values in each cage < 1253313049 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yargh < 1253313055 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cages are irregularly shaped, unlike the sudoku regions < 1253313058 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wondering why sums were relevant in sudoku... < 1253313064 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah :) < 1253314186 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION relinks http://lawlabeethewallaby.com/
< 1253314212 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION didn't get what was so funny about it the first time
< 1253314248 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is there something more than the picture there? < 1253314263 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I reiterate: was it worth it? < 1253314396 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, are you trying to make up a new meme? If so: fail < 1253314414 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm just trying to assert my status as Lawlabee the Wallaby :P < 1253314428 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253314432 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's not funny, it's just random. It's Lawlabee the Wallaby! < 1253314436 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Absolutely. < 1253314449 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever you say < 1253314646 0 :sebbu2!n=sebbu@ADijon-152-1-3-115.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1253314708 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1253314721 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: now would you really want to be a wallaby while there is a Warrigal around? < 1253314772 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, he's imitating me. < 1253314781 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly, that's a good thing. < 1253314880 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, only the warrigal is a carnivore, afaik. < 1253314964 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm mind you, when considering cartoon animals that may not be an advantage < 1253315040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what sort of animal is a "warrigal"? < 1253315057 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: whatever language you speak, I bet the word for it in your language is "dingo". < 1253315082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1253315082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1253315112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what language uses "Warrigal" then? < 1253315116 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, Warrigal did eat your baby. < 1253315131 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Australian English. < 1253315133 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I did so for a very good reason. < 1253315145 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Dharruk. < 1253315145 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer) < 1253315150 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably originating from some Aboriginal... yeah, that then. < 1253315174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, Australian English shouldn't be classified as English < 1253315182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's too different < 1253315188 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha < 1253315190 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :American English shouldn't be classified as English < 1253315191 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's too crap < 1253315213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for anyone disagreeing: http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/podcasts/IrregularPodcast007.mp3 < 1253315220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, agreed! < 1253315222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely < 1253315223 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Y'all just makin' fun of 'mericans cuz we ain't wastin' our time wit your shit grammar. < 1253315242 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that's part of it. < 1253315253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, and your fuck up spelling too < 1253315278 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: We just love zees more than brits because "zed" sounds so stupid. < 1253315295 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, "zed"? < 1253315301 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You sound stupid. < 1253315309 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't that the name for the letter z? < 1253315318 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clue what zees are < 1253315329 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Zee" is the other name for the letter z. < 1253315331 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You see that airplane flying over your head? My joke is on that airplane. < 1253315331 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 'Merican for z. < 1253315338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ah < 1253315354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, wth? < 1253315357 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of the major spelling differences between British and American English is that we use more zees. Clearly this is because "zee" sounds better than "zed". < 1253315358 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The name that rhymes with "gee", "pee", and "vee", so as not to give the alphabet song an anticlimactic ending. < 1253315361 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As far as I know. < 1253315369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, what do you mean with airplane? < 1253315373 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1253315384 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: MY META-JOKE IS ALSO ON THAT FUCKING AIRPLANE < 1253315395 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do happen to live rather close to an airport, just 15 km or so < 1253315400 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so aircrafts often pass overhead here < 1253315405 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: are you familiar with the idiom "to be over someone's head"? < 1253315406 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly SAS and Lufthansa iirc < 1253315417 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, not as far as I can remember < 1253315420 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Special Air Service? < 1253315431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elench, Scandinavian Air < 1253315433 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If calculus is over my head, then I do not understand calculus. < 1253315436 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah good < 1253315457 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: I'd be slightly disturbed if you were getting significant traffic from my first guess < 1253315459 0 :jix!n=jix@95.33.80.29 JOIN :#esoteric < 1253315473 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Scandinavian Airlines System, an airline company in Denmark, Norway and Sweden" < 1253315476 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what Wikipedia says < 1253315491 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : If calculus is over my head, then I do not understand calculus. <-- I pitty you < 1253315553 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what it means to say that something is over someone's head; it means that they don't understand it. < 1253315565 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1253315575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, right < 1253315611 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, anyone who does not speak English as it is written in broad transcriptions speaks it wrong. < 1253315627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, in what transcriptions? < 1253315646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understood each word there, just not the whole < 1253315657 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Broad transcription" is a technical term. < 1253315664 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, meaning? < 1253315712 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A broad transcription of a word is, essentially, a representation of its phonemes. < 1253315733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, oh, like in a dictionary? < 1253315733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the IPA thingy < 1253315735 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1253315739 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in the entire phase space of its possible pronunciations? < 1253315748 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/possible/valid/ < 1253315754 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elench, calculate it's size! < 1253315762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1253315765 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no thanks < 1253315765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should be its < 1253315765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe < 1253315775 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It should be its < 1253315786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elench, it would be interesting to find out if it is finite or infinite < 1253315806 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's infinate < 1253315809 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So something like /flɔr/ or /əˈpɪɹ/. < 1253315813 0 :Elench!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or at least, it's analogue < 1253315866 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no good reason for using r in the first of those and ɹ for the second; for English; they're precisely the same thing. I would have said /əˈpɪr/ if I had noticed. < 1253315868 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, mind you, I can't easily read that without checking a reference < 1253315875 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION nods.
< 1253315923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, and right now, what with having flu/bad cold (not yet known which) I can't be bothered to check that < 1253315937 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I would say that the main defining feature of a broad transcription is that it can be more or less independent of accent. < 1253315958 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, huh how? < 1253315964 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :British people say /flɔr/ and /əˈpɪr/ even though they don't say [r] at the end. < 1253315981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, the dictionaries I have seen sometimes list two or more transcriptions < 1253316004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, what words are those examples? < 1253316011 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :floor? < 1253316012 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Floor" and "appear". < 1253316016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1253316052 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.104.237.137 JOIN :#esoteric < 1253316107 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Broad transcriptions don't reflect the actual sounds; they just reflect what people feel like they're saying. < 1253316141 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1253316196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal, well, even so, sometimes they differ quite a lot < 1253316220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo yo yo. < 1253316230 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my < 1253316239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed AnMaster i did not die < 1253316250 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A British accent takes /flɔr/ and gives you [flɔː], and takes /əˈpɪr/ and gives you [əˈpʰɪə]; the things in brackets are the actual sounds. < 1253316254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, me coughs at ehird < 1253316269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, flu time! < 1253316281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only worth being scared about if it comes from a pig. < 1253316320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah I got it from a student at uni with quite a weird shaped nose < 1253316334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:54:03 also what's the opposite of nodding, i don't know it in any language < 1253316334 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1253316336 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes /ˈiːhərd/ and gives you [ˈiːhəd]. Not that that matters. < 1253316346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, shaking your head? < 1253316351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: if you're having sex with them it doesn't matter what shape their nose is, you're going to catch the flu < 1253316359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must learn these things. < 1253316381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, So must your mom < 1253316408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: you should always wear a nose condom. < 1253316483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, Yeah, your mom seemed to have a fetishism for that! Very strange. < 1253316490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fetishism. < 1253316498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :typoed maybe < 1253316516 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm nop < 1253316516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to reorientate again < 1253316538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well it was *she* who had it, not me. Guess while I'm no longer in UK! < 1253316552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:29:11 (i promise i'll stop being sexist when i see the first female mathematician that doesn't suck) < 1253316552 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's prolly a decent trans mathematician < 1253316558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also prolly a decent woman mathematician, but :P < 1253316570 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Most people would just say, you know, "fetish". < 1253316575 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 03:29:11 (i promise i'll stop being sexist when i see the first female mathematician that doesn't suck) <-- Ada Lovelace? (sp?) < 1253316609 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lovelace wasn't a mathematician. < 1253316622 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm true, related tough < 1253316630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She basically made program traces of whatever engine programs in her head using Babbage's definition. < 1253316639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(whatever engine) programs, that is. < 1253316668 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah... I got stuck parsing that < 1253316679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ditto. < 1253316686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but you wrote it? < 1253316740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories: 1815 births | 1852 deaths | 19th-century mathematicians | Ada programming language | Byron family | Computer pioneers | Daughters of barons | English computer programmers | English countesses | English mathematicians | English scientists | English women writers | Lord Byron | Women computer scientists | Women engineers | Women mathematicians | Women of the Victorian era | 19th-century wome < 1253316740 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :n writers | Accidental human deaths in England < 1253316744 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's from wikipedia < 1253316751 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which may not be accurate < 1253316752 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1253316786 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stumbled on re-reading. < 1253316810 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, they seem to consider her a mathematician, as well a programming language < 1253316836 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ok... what about Sophie Germain? < 1253316839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Categories are "things about X", not "things describable as X". Well, they're both. < 1253316858 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sorry I forgot < 1253316887 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, don't let a joke get in the way of pedanticism seems to be your motto; I might as well try it out. < 1253316922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, now there is no way you can't argue that you aren't a hypocrite (and so am I here :P) < 1253316975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The problem is that I freely admit I'm a hypocrite. :P < 1253317029 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ok that is a nice way out < 1253317359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:40:42 imconvert -size 84622x1 -depth 8 r:- -channel R -fx "p{i+20*sin(i/50),j}" r:- < 1253317361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cute. < 1253317374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, old. that was quite some time ago < 1253317403 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also quoted oklopol from the same day. < 1253317407 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm logreading the things I missed. < 1253317418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that was quite some time agoa < 1253317420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ago* < 1253317427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wasn't aware it was same day < 1253317457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:00:16 I finally figured out how to convince automake to do precompiled headers! < 1253317457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:00:23 It's hideous, but it works! < 1253317457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then < 1253317457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:00:16 […] automake […] < 1253317458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:00:23 […] hideous […] < 1253317458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1253317510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:12:32 one of the dummy files is getting distributed because I can't but it in nodist_SOURCES or else it gets built after the rest of the project < 1253317510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, auto*… people sure do delight in inventing nonexistent problems. < 1253317526 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :auto* works pretty well once set up correctly < 1253317533 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but setting it up in the first place is a pain < 1253317562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I must be the only person who tries to avoid wasting so much time solving problems that don't exist. < 1253317577 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1253317627 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday I played D&D. This was the first time that the *PAGE NUMBERS* had a significant effect on the game! I never thought it was possible, but the strategy of this game is complex and you would learn new things about it a lot. < 1253317652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Diary, today I started prefixing all of zzo38's lines mentally with < 1253317692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, with what? < 1253317694 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1253317713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Whoosh < 1253317730 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh it wasn't just a cut off line < 1253317732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1253317796 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how can the page numbers matter? < 1253317833 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, because of alphabetal orders < 1253317848 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wanted to transform into some strong creature, so I did so and found CHUUL < 1253317857 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was near a page number near the beginning < 1253317871 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it helps in other ways, too, with what selection is made < 1253317986 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chuul < 1253317992 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is chuul < 1253318002 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in the book < 1253318017 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :entirely correct yet useless < 1253318023 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does it mean < 1253318148 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHUUL: Like some large insect or monstrous crustacean, the creature rises from the still pool, its pincerlike claws snapping angrily as torchlight reflects off its mottled, armored carapace. Its small dark eyes fix you with a hungry stare, and the tentacles dripping from its mouth squirm excitedly as it emerges from the water. < 1253318157 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the italic descrpition in the book. < 1253318201 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reads like some sort of horrible, horrible tenticle tentacle rape erotica. < 1253318246 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you read much such to be able to compare? < 1253318249 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, that's just the description. < 1253318259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That thought hit me about three seconds before you said that < 1253318261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1253318262 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't rape or erotica. < 1253318269 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/./; seems I haven't got any better at typing < 1253318275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I know, but the imagery in that last sentence, eww. < 1253318386 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O. < 1253318394 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric