< 1255219217 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the scramble is obviously the language with equal number of a's, b's and c's < 1255219240 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :_but_ that is not regular < 1255219259 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, it's not supposed to be regular. < 1255219272 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm true < 1255219279 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just supposed to show that scramble(L) is context-free. < 1255219279 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yours is linear, iirc < 1255219298 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To get a regular grammar, you need to be left-linear or right-linear. < 1255219308 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you mix both styles, you don't get a necessarily regular language. < 1255219321 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway your modification then means you have to add a, b, c in sequence, but you can add them either in front or after < 1255219349 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds a more likely counter-argument. < 1255219365 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now need a counterexample string of that kind < 1255219372 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er i mean < 1255219385 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a string with equal no. abc which is not of that kind < 1255219408 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, something which doesn't parse with S -> Ta | aT | empty, T -> Ub | bU, U -> Sc | cS. < 1255219430 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cabbca < 1255219464 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to add the c last, but then you have nowhere to add b second last < 1255219502 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait that's inside out < 1255219516 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acbbac, reverse argument < 1255219539 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heck even anything without a's at the ends < 1255219541 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"cab" is enough, right? The three can only start with "S -> Ta" or "S -> aT"; with "S -> Ta", you'd have to add that b before the a; but you can't start with "S -> aT" because that should really start with a. < 1255219547 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1255219626 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other words, you can't get all permutations simply by reordering leaves in the parse tree. < 1255219635 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, s/leaves/children/ < 1255219636 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and this shows even S -> Ta | empty, T -> Ub will fail with baab < 1255219705 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :T -> Sb, you mean? Or something else? < 1255219711 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er yes < 1255219802 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so now i'm wondering about oklopol's supposedly trivial solution :D < 1255219899 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm wondering about that too; I did try to "think in terms of automatons", but it wasn't at least immediately trivial how to recognize with a nondeterministic pushdown automaton anything that's a permutation of a word recognized by a finite state automaton. < 1255220170 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i'm not immediate sure about that abc language... < 1255220179 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(just ab seems simple though) < 1255220212 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*immediately < 1255220242 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seem to remember that a^n b^n c^n was used as an example of a non-context-free language. < 1255220260 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes me too, but the scramble _might_ make it easier < 1255220834 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm, well, let's look at the a^n b^n c^n proof in the scrambled light. If that "equal number of a's, b's and c's" is context-free, it obeys the context-free pumping lemma with some length "p". We can still look at the a^p b^p c^p string (which is in the language), and that can be written in the s=uvxyz form with the length limits, and so on, and so on, and the pumping will generate an unequal number of letters, which will take that example out of the language. < 1255220861 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait... < 1255220875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any sufficiently advanced mathematics is indistinguishable from nonsense. < 1255220882 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on that note: night → < 1255220891 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just realized. the _intersection_ of a regular and a context-free language is context-free, right? < 1255220915 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess. < 1255220923 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a^nb^bc^n is the intersection of its scramble with a^k b^l c^m < 1255220930 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1255220947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the scramble cannot possibly be context-free < 1255220949 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, to that too. < 1255220988 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, *and a^nb^nc^n < 1255220995 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also from the pumping lemma proof. After all, it's enough to find at least one string in the language that can't be pumped, and in that particular case the a^n b^n c^n string qualifies, since the pumping will create an unequal number of letters in there. < 1255221023 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm seems so < 1255221027 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this makes me wonder even more about oklopol's trivial solution. < 1255221054 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1255221082 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poor oklopol. or possibly poor teacher, if (s)he gave an exercise that is false < 1255221116 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The exercise might've been "prove whether" instead of "prove that" < 1255221134 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1255221155 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a related sort of a question in http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/General/comp.theory/2007-01/msg00249.html < 1255221170 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: read above discussion ^ < 1255221183 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(There's the scramble of a regular language of a two-symbol alphabet that's being proved to be context-free.) < 1255221249 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it is sort of implied that something else happens when there are more symbols. < 1255221272 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1255221410 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure whether I have that Sipser book it's from. I think I never actually went and got it, even though it was probably mentioned as a possibly-good-to-read book on the theoretical computer science basics course. < 1255222089 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.72.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255222247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:40:31 so i hear there was a course in lojban in helsinki uni < 1255222247 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:41:10 (with my ears) < 1255222249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy fucking shit < 1255222256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it < 1255222302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also is it university of helsinki or the helsinki university of technology < 1255222338 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you're awake ALREADY/STILL? < 1255222363 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I slept for 15 hours, dude < 1255222368 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1255222369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, already < 1255222388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn that was some high-quality sleep. < 1255222389 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must have misrembered seeing you last time i logged on then < 1255222412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :~6:30 am yesterday I slept. < 1255222423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My client probably disconnected, as I turned off my computer. < 1255222426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(It won't sleep for some reason.) < 1255222472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:13:42 huh, there's an unlambda reference in the homework < 1255222473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:14:15 "aSS" couldn't possibly be a coincidence < 1255222473 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload dammit < 1255222506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:06:13 03:13:42 huh, there's an unlambda reference in the homework < 1255222506 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :underload my aSS < 1255222506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:06:14 03:14:15 "aSS" couldn't possibly be a coincidence < 1255222506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:06:21 underload, oklopol. underload. < 1255222507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1255222562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :12:43:42 from what I have heard, if computer programs were written the way programmers were promoted, there would be no such thing as an OS or a dynamically-shared library < 1255222562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are both good things, but not in the way you mean :P < 1255222597 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1255222824 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would guess UH, not HUT; it sounds more something like they'd do. < 1255222892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what it was about < 1255222897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope something totally unrelated < 1255222930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: like, I'm assuming in lojban means < 1255222933 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :taught in lojban < 1255222935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just about lojban < 1255223090 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's organized by "Lambda ry" (where "ry" is our suffix for "registered organization"), sponsored by the cognitive science department; and the name of the course is "Practical Lojban for Travellers". < 1255223111 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds practical yes < 1255223152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: if you travel to lojbania i guess? < 1255223179 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also Lambda ry seems to be originated by atehwa at sange.fi, or something. < 1255223185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so, UH then? < 1255223188 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lojbanania, ruled by the horrible lojunta < 1255223190 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255223227 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :atehwa rings a bell < 1255223236 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: The esolang mailing list guy, I think. < 1255223244 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1255223251 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least at that time when it was hosted at sange.fi. < 1255223252 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :creator of? < 1255223271 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really remember the history, but at least "involved with". < 1255223357 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Lambda is a Helsinki University student organisation for students interested in theoretical computer science, mathematics, cognitive science, linguistics, language technology and philosophy, and the grey areas between these subjects. For example, logic, formal languages, computability and programming language theory are all subjects interesting to Lambda. While Lambda was founded largely by computer science theorists, the organisation aims for cross-scientif < 1255223357 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic cooperation across different faculties and departments." < 1255223384 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the list IS hosted at sange.fi, isn't it < 1255223385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the archives < 1255223388 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the dormant list < 1255223404 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess it technically speaking still is. < 1255223436 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it still works < 1255223439 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, one of them < 1255223449 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just nobody posts, not even spambots < 1255223459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me and simonrc posted last year... got responses < 1255223464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone should start using it < 1255223481 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is technically subscribed he thinks
< 1255223484 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lambda have five courses; introduction to lambda calculus, introduction to functional programming, the practical Lojban thing, practical Haskell, and formal type theory. Quite a grouping. < 1255223492 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember which address I had subscribed there. < 1255223544 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My iki address seems to be there in the archives, and I don't remember unsubscribing, but who knows. < 1255223558 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only one way to find out < 1255223568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to search my mail to see which list still works < 1255223615 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be a bit of spam there in the archives. < 1255223632 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not very large amounts, but still. < 1255223723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Checkmate your email! < 1255223776 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see anything. It's possible I've been auto-unsubscribidized during some sort of email address breakdown time. It is the shame. < 1255223782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check spam? < 1255223819 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing there either. Though the iki forwarding lags sometimes. < 1255223824 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sci@esoteric.sange.fi (science), misc@esoteric.sange.fi (offtopic stuff; "All messages to lang@esoteric.sange.fi get propagated to this list.") and lang@esoteric.sange.fi (esolangs!) should still work. < 1255223833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :List context changed to 'chat' by following command. < 1255223834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> subscribe chat < 1255223834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unable to generate subscription cookie! < 1255223834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>> subscribe chat < 1255223834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unable to process request due to filesystem error. < 1255223842 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chat@ no longer exists. < 1255223858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I said it right after sending. < 1255223866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either the lists are dead, you're not subscribed, or something is lagging. < 1255223898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, now it is there. < 1255223902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "With the powerful force of an email client and mailing list archives...", July 2008. Somewhere in your email/spam archives? < 1255223913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it's there, there's a good chance you're still subscribed to a working list. < 1255223928 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This actually has a purpose, albeit a minor, inconsequential one." < 1255223938 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tada < 1255223940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It arrived < 1255223944 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're subscribed to a working list < 1255223948 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yayness. < 1255223972 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are 11 "Received:" headers; that's quite a lot of hoops to jump through. < 1255224023 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Three people responded to my in July 08, so there's a good chance they'll go all "rabble rabble, your last message was archeology, this is spam". < 1255224039 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I use metamail in a script to automatically download an attachment from a certain person? < 1255224041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: did you receive anything? < 1255224046 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not asking how, I'm asking "is it possible" < 1255224123 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION feels dirty inside, for treating what should be text as html, just to prevent the browser from trying to download it and open it in notepad
< 1255224300 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: when i said i was technically subscribed, i didn't mean i actually received mail < 1255224311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check spam :P < 1255224332 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what spam < 1255224342 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1255224344 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your... spam... folder < 1255224349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where... spam... is filtered < 1255224351 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't have any < 1255224360 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you do, otherwise your inbox would be totally useless < 1255224360 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is not enough that i bother filtering it < 1255224367 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :server-side < 1255224371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at whereverplace < 1255224379 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is however filtered by nvg somewhat i guess < 1255224445 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but afaik what's filtered does not end up anywhere else < 1255224457 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some is only marked with Spam in the subject though < 1255224517 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION actually checks that
< 1255224563 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah no spam folder i haven't discovered yet < 1255224585 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there's one where i once upon a time saved spam manually after complaining about it) < 1255224755 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, by "i didn't mean i actually received mail" i meant that if i am subscribed, it's in some kind of send nothing mode < 1255224772 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i'm not sure if that list is one of those < 1255224795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well email to misc@esoteric.sange.fi and find out! < 1255224796 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the agora lists are, though < 1255224806 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're actually subscribed to them? < 1255224812 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically :D < 1255224813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't think they have a don't-email-me mode < 1255224817 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sry < 1255224828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, are you not on the new agoranomic.org addresses? < 1255224832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'll be subscribed to yoyo < 1255224833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe tue < 1255224843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably you haven't subscribed to any since you left < 1255224872 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i regularly get Subject: agoranomic.org mailing list memberships reminder < 1255224884 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on mailman reminder day < 1255224904 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from yzma.clarkk.net < 1255225023 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm seems i actually unsubscribed from esolang < 1255225112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clarkk is indeed agora's home < 1255225117 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm also subscribed to yoyo of course, and even receive mail on that i think < 1255225129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, so you get emails whenever the lists are down? < 1255225135 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1255225136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so a month or so ago, sometime last year... < 1255225142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a glimpse into the game! < 1255225152 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1255225180 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure about tue, it doesn't remind me at least < 1255225199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's our other backup list, so even your glimpses are incomplete < 1255225214 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has another page of quotes
< 1255225217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so wait, when you left, email just kept rolling into your inbox for years? :D < 1255225217 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i probably receive those too, i'm just not entirely sure < 1255225227 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some nsfw material: http://normish.org/sgeo/pullet.htm < 1255225233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (presumably you're too low-tech to use filters and folders) < 1255225239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i'm not sure tue reminds, inded < 1255225241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*indeed < 1255225245 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have folders to save manually to < 1255225265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you moved bunches of messages into folders for years? < 1255225277 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after i read them, yes < 1255225283 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i don't delete them < 1255225288 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: got bored at like 5, where i realised that all future Aerik quotes would be worthless < 1255225300 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i meant from ag ora < 1255225301 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*agora < 1255225311 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there's more than aerik < 1255225312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: *line 5 < 1255225317 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't care < 1255225320 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: for some years yes, not after the last time i left though < 1255225321 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not worht trawling through teh crap < 1255225324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*worth *the < 1255225332 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm in there a few times < 1255225341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what then, a filter? or did you resubscribe, or just ignore them, or had we moved by then < 1255225347 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _did_ set the non-backup lists to not send me mail then < 1255225356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1255225385 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so what, did you come back in that ~2000 resurgence or something? i'm not actually sure how long the agoranomic.org lists go back < 1255225395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the registrar just notes you as leaving in 95... or was it 97 < 1255225401 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sometime like that yes < 1255225411 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1255225419 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you might be listed again later < 1255225424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it lists you as disappearing, iirc < 1255225425 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i definitely returned somewhere around 2000 < 1255225427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as opposed to actually leaving in a huff < 1255225438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or leaving because of Responsibilities(TM) < 1255225476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Left in 1996: < 1255225476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oerjan 3 Jan 96 < 1255225478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, no reason given < 1255225487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then < 1255225488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Left in 2000: < 1255225488 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oerjan (Zombie 20 Sep 99 - 25 Dec 99) Apr 96 22 Mar 00 < 1255225498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and before all that < 1255225498 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oerjan Sep 95 Dec 95 < 1255225507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and < 1255225507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a Oerjan oerjan@nvg.ntnu.no 15 Jul 00 14 Nov 04 < 1255225510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(abandoned) < 1255225516 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's it < 1255225520 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah that would be the last time < 1255225533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesn't say when you abandoned iit < 1255225537 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :presumably nearer 2000 than 2004 < 1255225546 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1255225550 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1255225585 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that unknown should be some time in autumn 93 < 1255225588 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, the other leavings are three months, less than one year and 3 years < 1255225590 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1255225600 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all of them are unknown apart from the a < 1255225607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess we didn't record them in 93 < 1255225622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(leavings = how long you stayed before leaving) < 1255225632 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the 3 years is actually 3 months < 1255225639 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to zombieness < 1255225651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh awit < 1255225652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1255225666 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1255225680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so in conclusion, apart from the 2000-2004, you played the gamme for three months, less than one year and 3 months < 1255225686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the former means inactivated < 1255225692 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the latter is deregistrated < 1255225694 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deregistered < 1255225699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the times are quite short < 1255225702 0 :madbrain!n=madbrain@70.81.136.175 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255225702 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know < 1255225707 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that format is oooooooold < 1255225711 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1255225718 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and without labelling of the columns < 1255225721 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: huh what < 1255225724 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay wrote an interpreter for my newest obfuscated language in Lua < 1255225733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying to decipher the report, and failing < 1255225734 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( http://esolangs.org/wiki/Univar ) < 1255225750 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we started recording registrations in 94 < 1255225764 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first deregistration 12 sep 94, and no others til 1995 < 1255225767 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where there's a lot < 1255225769 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait that unknown cannot be 93 of course, since there's another period before it < 1255225772 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the interpreter can run in http://www.lua.org/cgi-bin/demo ) < 1255225803 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's definitely a period earlier than 95 too, since i registered in 93 < 1255225809 0 :puzzlet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1255225819 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: basically what i'm saying is, yoyo is quite accurate, because you never stayed more than three months or so, at least in 95 or earlier < 1255225834 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the 2000-2004 thing I guessed didn't actually last that long, based on available statistics < 1255225848 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@24.207.48.53 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255225871 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: that quotes file is really crap < 1255225886 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the quotes, or something else? < 1255225890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1255225932 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which? < 1255225939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The former. < 1255225945 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1255225969 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*shrug* < 1255225970 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you are misreading the one with zombie in it < 1255225978 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: oh, i see < 1255225979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1255225981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, apart from that one < 1255225983 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1255225999 0 :puzzlet!n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255225999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if you left in a huff in the non-abandoned ones, i theorise that you are like a long-term wooble. < 1255226008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, long-term in the gaps between registrations, not so much in the staying. < 1255226014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, more like goethe < 1255226015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean g. < 1255226015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatevs < 1255226019 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, the A22i assembler supports roman numerals < 1255226029 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Probably a GNU project. < 1255226126 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't recall ever leaving in a huff :D < 1255226154 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that i recall very much clearly at all < 1255226167 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, this one isn't a GNU project. < 1255226177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: they had cantus cygnei and writ of fages back then yes? < 1255226186 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A22i is for assembling codes for ARM machines) < 1255226196 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure < 1255226198 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Specifically, the GBA/NDS) < 1255226205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: me/ais412 < 1255226206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er < 1255226224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: me/ais523/comex scammed that based on the fact that writ of fages let you come back without waiting 30 days :) (but the scam failed in other ways) < 1255226224 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: the ones that ended around christmas may simply have been because my parents didn't have internet access at the time < 1255226243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wouldn't that be abandoning? or would you have deregistered beforehand < 1255226248 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i tended to expire < 1255226256 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it would be abandoning < 1255226258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can you expire multiple times < 1255226263 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that doesn't even make no sense < 1255226265 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er... < 1255226272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: abandoning = don't post for a long time < 1255226274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without deregistering < 1255226280 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is expire a technical term? < 1255226283 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then someone deregisters you < 1255226290 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, a human expiring generally means < 1255226291 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know < 1255226292 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dying. < 1255226298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact by generally i mean always < 1255226301 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and also, this may have been in the period before Hold < 1255226324 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it'd have just been deregistering after not posting < 1255226360 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i find the two ending in Dec 95 and Jan 96 suspicious, that there are two rather than just one < 1255226389 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm or wait < 1255226389 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :complain! oh wait you might have a seizure even typing that address :D < 1255226410 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jan 96 i went to the US < 1255226426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was a scam involving deregistering. < 1255226428 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is conceivable i abandoned twice < 1255226432 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1255226433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did they have the 30 day cooldown period thten? < 1255226435 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*then < 1255226454 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that < 1255226471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after deregistering, you can't register for 30 days < 1255226567 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cannot remember if we ever had that < 1255226574 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly not all the time < 1255226633 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, it is quite possible that i only deregistered properly once, may have been in 2002-2004 < 1255226643 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all the rest being abandons < 1255226672 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they would say "a" then < 1255226678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: and the 2004 one is abandoning < 1255226681 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so TOTALLY WRONG BITCH < 1255226699 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _thought_ i deregistered properly then < 1255226712 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was the time before < 1255226713 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are you talking about anyway? < 1255226717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agora < 1255226768 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is? < 1255226782 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's tierced palewise sable, argent, and sable, charged with a quill and an axe in saltire, proper, and in the chief a capital letter A, gules. < 1255226787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wait, it's http://agoranomic.org/. < 1255226814 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unfortunately, we no longer have that coat of arms. Stupid modernists.) < 1255226833 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, I've read a bit about nomic, sounds like fun < 1255226849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: Yes. The game sucks a bit now, unfortunately, rule-wise. < 1255226868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been going since before I was born (since 1993), so it'll probably straighten out shortly. < 1255226880 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm indeed i abandoned in 2004, i have kept the registrar's messages to that effect < 1255226895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless people actually like the current ruleset; polling seems to suggest no < 1255226903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: what, as a trophy? :P < 1255226917 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1255226940 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HA! Fuck you all! I won't even dignify you with a deregistration! < 1255226948 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at that time i was only reading email about once a month, i think < 1255226955 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at the library < 1255227040 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : It's been going since before I was born (since 1993) <-- that _is_ a bit awesome :D < 1255227048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. :P < 1255227061 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16 this year... < 1255227070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Uh, Agora that is, not me.) < 1255227120 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Michael posted recently, iirc. < 1255227127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As in, months ago. Maybe even laate last year.) < 1255227129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*late < 1255227148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was supporting singular they over e, iirc, and it was a few posts < 1255227186 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Later" < 1255227312 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :singular they? have they _no_ sense of tradition? < 1255227458 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: you should join the bobzooping contract < 1255227475 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: no, I don't want to support BobTHJ's site < 1255227486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Shakespeare, dude < 1255227490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it used to be like that, anyway < 1255227495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e shimmied in to replace they later on < 1255227500 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: no, it's a contract that allows zooping support of NoVs < 1255227502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the original ruleset uses "they" < 1255227513 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh. < 1255227518 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially those against Bob < 1255227522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: hmm < 1255227524 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's it called < 1255227527 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it < 1255227530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1255227530 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it's not public yet < 1255227532 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I linked it in here < 1255227533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1255227535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/msg me < 1255227617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interesting fact: http://www.stevey.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/50-years-exploration-huge.jpg, if scaled so that it is vertically 1200 pixels high, would cover roughly 1.41449296600234 1920x1200 displays horizontatlly < 1255227664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is a shame, because it'd look amazing on 2 or 3 24" displays < 1255227729 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's also a whole in it < 1255227731 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hole < 1255227763 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the picture? < 1255227765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where? < 1255227777 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bottom right < 1255227786 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some of the lines are cut off for the Pioneers/Voyagers < 1255227797 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they resume on the other side of the box < 1255227800 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are separate missions or something it hink < 1255227808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1255227813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, you're right < 1255227831 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a big deal < 1255227837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever, if I had two or three monitors (I guess I'll want them when I have the bigger room, bigger desk) i'd ask for a non-blanked vevrsion < 1255227839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*version < 1255227850 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how the bits around earth are so psychedelic < 1255227852 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-looking < 1255227858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well 70s psychedelia sort of thing < 1255227863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: also, it's a jpg < 1255227872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm sure something with so much effort put into it has a master copy. < 1255227889 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This is an image from a special edition national geographic magazine." < 1255227892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :november 2008 < 1255227902 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: so I just need a high-quality scanner < 1255227930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: boxes explained < 1255227930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HRnKzjq-c5g/SW2tmiRqzVI/AAAAAAAAAUY/UpAVj64ybfI/s1600/Space.jpg < 1255227936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the boring explanatory text was omitted < 1255227950 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, box < 1255227962 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the damage was repaired in other areas < 1255227965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see e.g. the bottom ones < 1255227969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not that one, presumably a mistake < 1255228042 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bottom gradient isn't cut off by the text < 1255228099 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: yes, the damage was patched up there, prersumably < 1255228101 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*presumably < 1255228110 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not the other one < 1255228117 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you missed my point < 1255228131 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but w/e, it's not important < 1255228139 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about the contract? < 1255228171 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1255228275 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, that's a pretty picture. It doesn't really fit the aspect ratio of my desktop either, though. (3861x1706 vs. approximately 4544x1200.) < 1255228326 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And I never have that desktop visible.) < 1255228423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I resized it to (something)x1050 and then cropped all the right side off < 1255228444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate how black backgroundd obscure shadows on them < 1255228447 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*backgrounds < 1255228458 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When shadows poke out other places, it looks weirdly inconsistent < 1255228464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, it's quite busy to be a background. < 1255228477 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the sun makes my apple logo bronze. < 1255228529 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happily, though, there's no white-line-at-the-bottom in my cropped version. < 1255228533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, at the right side. < 1255228544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having that at the very edge would look awkward. < 1255228610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It's from a National Geographic article, here as a draggable tile map; < 1255228610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://books.nationalgeographic.com/map/map-day/index < 1255228610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's the format of the individual tiles, < 1255228610 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://books.nationalgeographic.com/.../TileGroup0/4-4-2.jpg < 1255228611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And an XML of the details, < 1255228611 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/map/.../ImageProperties.xml < 1255228612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If anyone cares to piece it together." < 1255228621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am gawbsmacked. < 1255228630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick, slave — I mean fizzie —! < 1255228652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://books.nationalgeographic.com/map/map-day/2008/10/solar_system/TileGroup0/4-4-2.jpg Uurgh, the compression artefacts. < 1255228716 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I Don't Code in my Free Time - Ted Dziuba" < 1255228717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1255228724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Oh, so THAT'S why he's an idiot and a douchebag! < 1255228747 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There was only once when I actually enjoyed it, though. I was in college, and shared a common wall with a girl from Spain who was painfully unaware that her computer had a volume control knob. She would stay up late on AOL instant messenger, and I couldn't sleep. So, I rigged up a Python script to play AOL instant messenger sounds randomly every 5 to 10 seconds," < 1255228756 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TALKING TO PEOPLE: RATED IMPOSSIBLE < 1255229455 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is this guy complaining about the NAME of Twisted? < 1255229832 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : { F MOV WAA RAA. BRNZ }. < 1255229973 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notices the line between assembly and internet slang getting thinner there
< 1255229988 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, ya... < 1255230092 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have a complete proper URL of the ImageProperties.xml? < 1255230143 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fixed point functions are scary < 1255230228 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: y! < 1255230241 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION cackles evilly
< 1255230295 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I dunno if what I'm playing with are fixed point functions but as far as I can tell they are < 1255230341 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hrm; I've actually been combining tile-maps quite a lot, but I can't really be bothered with this particular one. It's 05am here already, so g'night and such. < 1255230414 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: Do you ever use the #libregamewiki channel on freenode? (I have never even heard of it until now, actually, but anyways...) < 1255230432 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1255230462 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O. Well, are you on that wiki? < 1255230469 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1255230484 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O. < 1255230538 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A IRC WHOIS command and a Google search brought me to http://libregamewiki.org/List_of_developers so I was a bit curious about that < 1255230607 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :strange, it does have my name for some reason, probably compiled from some idie game < 1255230629 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea which one < 1255230665 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha, probably from my brother's pygame game < 1255230675 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now there's a sufficiently unusual name that you can probably google it without any ambiguity. < 1255230691 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I searched for "Hubert Lamontagne" < 1255230709 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i'm not sure it's that unusual in french? < 1255230736 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gregor: well, I do have an unusual first name yes, although I'm not the only one named hubert lamontagne amazingly < 1255230738 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Hubert a French name? < 1255230744 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1255230766 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Doesn't scream "French" to me. Not that I know names. < 1255230779 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like the hubert lamontagne on facebook? (1st hit) not me < 1255230794 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are several Gregor Richards' on Facebook. < 1255230804 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although there's only one on google. < 1255230874 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god no D-8 < 1255230885 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an association between me and the company I worked for that shall not be named :( < 1255230896 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHAHA < 1255230971 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.flickr.com/photos/tobiaswrigstad/3715548371/ There's also an astoundingly terrible picture of me giving a presentation :P < 1255230998 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry, in a few years _everyone_ will have something embarassing about on the web and so it won't matter any more >:) < 1255231025 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither are that embarrassing. < 1255231029 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just hated that company a lot. < 1255231035 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact this will be so ubiquitous that people who don't have it will be strongly mistrusted as having something to hide < 1255231144 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What, there are no nude pictures of you on the internet?" Do you have some ugly scar or something?" < 1255231174 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are no nude pictures of me on the webernets :P < 1255231209 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.flickr.com/photos/tobiaswrigstad/3715548571/ Oh look, there's a slightly-less-terrible picture of me giving the same talk. Also my advisor. < 1255231262 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, people talked! < 1255231287 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: well me neither, but just you wait a few years! < 1255231364 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hadn't quite got the idea the Gregor wore hats _indoors_
< 1255231366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: your clothing = awesome < 1255231372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *hi5* < 1255231396 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wear hats (and also shirts and ties) in all social situations. < 1255231409 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also underwear, etc. < 1255231411 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i shall now find some mind bleach to remove that tie. < 1255231420 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it pink and green? I think so. < 1255231430 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: do any of your hats ever fall off < 1255231444 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The tie is just pink. < 1255231461 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has a pattern, but the pattern is pink and pink. < 1255231469 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And no, my hats never fall off. I have hats that fit. < 1255231486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :none of them < 1255231487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVER < 1255231496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, social situations, does that include sex? < 1255231499 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey oerjan < 1255231502 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :share some of dat mind bleach < 1255231502 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless my memory fails me, no hat has ever fallen off my head. < 1255231504 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yes. < 1255231507 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OERJAN < 1255231508 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QUICK < 1255231512 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1255231545 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid i'm all out < 1255231548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1255231550 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: http://codu.org/hats/PinkPaisleyFedora-med.jpg < 1255231555 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "That shall not be named"? < 1255231556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll ccheck the blackm arket < 1255231556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1255231559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*black market < 1255231560 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Intel? < 1255231560 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*check < 1255231562 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I betit's < 1255231563 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bet it's < 1255231564 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1255231564 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I wurrrrve Intel. < 1255231565 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beat me to it < 1255231568 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I was quite happy to work at Intel. < 1255231574 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a different company. < 1255231578 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Initech < 1255231582 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, so a company that merits hating. < 1255231595 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You almost certainly haven't heard of it. < 1255231613 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Initech! < 1255231851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Likely. < 1255231873 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Is it Plof Enterprises, who you stole Plof from < 1255231880 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU HAVEN'T DENIED IT < 1255231881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must be true < 1255231895 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, I'm not fast enough at denying things. < 1255231924 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we shall have to register didgregorrichardsstealploffromplofenterprises.com now < 1255232074 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isgregorrichardssecretlyglennbeck.com < 1255232109 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didgregorrichardsrapeandmurderglennbeckin1990.com < 1255232118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didayounggirlrapeandmurdergregorrichardsin1990.com < 1255232135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure you're GAY enough for it to happen. Wearing pink ties and all. < 1255232144 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And pink hats. < 1255232146 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And pink shirts. < 1255232153 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And big pink triangles :P < 1255232162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're basically dead. < 1255232167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVEN NOW, AS A ZOMBIE < 1255232174 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains. < 1255232186 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why does XChat think I hit /clear in this channel? < 1255232220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you accidentally yourself at night. < 1255232228 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know how XChat works, maybe read the document first < 1255232240 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe you accidentally slipped and pushed the wrong key < 1255232342 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : DEF INC [P ADD %1 C1] OW [P MOV %1 %1 #1]. < 1255232379 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read P...OW as POW < 1255232387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, nested asm? < 1255232390 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What.Is.The.World.Coming.To < 1255232455 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know what is the world coming to? < 1255232472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nested asm < 1255232486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo dawg,e tc. < 1255232486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*, etc. < 1255232491 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HATE THIS KEYBOARD < 1255232494 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you understand what this code even means? Or, the other code from before? Let's see? < 1255232499 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What keyboard are you using? < 1255232521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make a good guess at what it's doing. And a Cherry scissor-switch (like on laptops) one. "Stream XT". < 1255232546 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O. OK, that's what keyboard. < 1255232579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Going to replace it with either an FKBN87MC/NPEK or an FKBN87M/EB, both of which have among their features inscrutable names and extreme priceyness, and among the former's features is being out of stock. < 1255232593 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O! < 1255232600 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O! < 1255232601 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not until I get the new desk, which is not until we move, so yeah. Stuck with this thing. < 1255232605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O! < 1255232648 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now let's see if you can try to figure out these asm codes, even just by guessing < 1255232672 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do have a document about it, but first try to figure out without document. OK < 1255232683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[P ...] means "put ... before this instruction, and replace this P thingy with the contents of %1, which you will replace with a free register". < 1255232724 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right? < 1255232735 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1255232744 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-( < 1255232752 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let me figure out the rest first. < 1255232765 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ADD X Y is X=X+Y. < 1255232765 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can tell you a hint, this line is a macro definition. < 1255232771 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255232790 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOV X Y Z is... um, MOV instructions usually only have two arguments. < 1255232795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1255232804 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe #1 isn't a main argument. < 1255232807 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or an argument at all. < 1255232856 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#1 is an immediate argument, maybe you can try to figure it out by the context. < 1255232875 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, INC is clearly a macro to increment something, so %1 must be the number 1. < 1255232885 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. %1 is not the number 1 < 1255232886 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1255232888 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C1 is the number 1. < 1255232892 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%1 is the first macro argument. < 1255232895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INC x becomes INC x C1 < 1255232900 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. C1 is the number 1 and %1 is the first macro argument, that is correct. < 1255232912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"OW"... hmm < 1255232934 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not a two-argument case, and inc is done by the ADD %1 C1 instruction... so it's not part of the actual macro expansion... < 1255232998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Correct? < 1255233004 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hint: Not all machine codes are possible... < 1255233017 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: You are sort of correct < 1255233024 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O. So... if you cannot expand to ADD %1 C1, < 1255233032 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expand to MOV {first arg} {first arg} #1 < 1255233032 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, the macro expansion will never contain "OW" < 1255233047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So then I guess I have to figure out how MOV works. < 1255233048 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you figure out what "OW" stands for? < 1255233053 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in Other Words? < 1255233060 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost. < 1255233060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise? < 1255233062 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255233067 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: MOV X Y Z = X = Y+Z < 1255233071 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1255233076 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MOV is an odd name for that; I'd call it ADDTO < 1255233085 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Or is it an artefact of the long instructions < 1255233091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., you can add that to any instruction < 1255233095 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it's taking advance of MOV being X=Y < 1255233098 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has to do with how immediate values are added on to instructions. < 1255233102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right < 1255233103 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clever < 1255233108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would ADD %1 C1 ever be inexpressable? < 1255233147 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because C1 is a special register. %1 might not be a valid special register in all cases. (Some registers are valid both as normal and special) < 1255233164 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either both registers have to be special or neither. < 1255233190 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C1 *is* an odd name for it; when I thought of "constant", I thought pointer-to-1. < 1255233194 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does C34567 work? < 1255233197 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now let's see if you can figure out this other code: { F MOV WAA RAA. BRNZ }. < 1255233202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or are there only a few? < 1255233208 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, C34567 doesn't work. Only C0 and C1 are available. < 1255233214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Zombies are a HOAX> < 1255233216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*HOAX. < 1255233217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ahahahaha) < 1255233230 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.........GTK+ actually has its own programming language? < 1255233235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No. < 1255233243 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://live.gnome.org/Vala < 1255233250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First of all, that's a GObject programming language. < 1255233254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not GTK+. < 1255233258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Second of all, Vala is unofficial. < 1255233265 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is, however, nice. < 1255233279 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it IS official. < 1255233286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no official GNOME applications uses it, as far as I know. < 1255233339 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(At first, C34567 reminded me a bit of mahjong hands) < 1255233341 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. Qt is finally freely available to proprietary programs? < 1255233346 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is reading wikivs.com
< 1255233354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes. < 1255233366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WikiVS is a bunch of crap./ < 1255233368 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*crap. < 1255233387 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Heh; "Laser Mouse vs Optical Mouse" — WHY is this even a page? Laser mice are an objective improvement on optical mice.) < 1255233425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Qt looks more native than GTK+ on Windows and Mac platforms. This is because Qt tries to use native widgets whenever possible. Even so, neither Qt nor GTK+ will look and feel completely native on Windows or Mac." < 1255233433 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: these pages are written by idiotic non-experts < 1255233443 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Did you figure out this code? It has nothing with Zombies! (I think...) < 1255233450 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They clearly haven't done the meagre research required, for instance, to realise that GTK+ is horrifically non-native on OS X. < 1255233459 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: "WAA RAA. BRNZ" -> "Waa raa! Brains." < 1255233468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I made a HOAX pun. < 1255233485 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, technically, what was written (that you quotes) is true < 1255233487 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Are the {...} meaningful? < 1255233491 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ya, it is just a pun a joke. But that is not anything about the purpose of the code. < 1255233495 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That is false. < 1255233496 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The { } are meaningful < 1255233500 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTK looks perfectly native on Windows. < 1255233512 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1255233522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Anyway, it may be *technically* true, but it's misleading. < 1255233538 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255233552 0 :ehird!n=ehird@91.105.72.41 JOIN :#esoteric < 1255233597 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put random page on wiki VS and found "Copyfree vs Copyleft" the first time. < 1255233616 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Copyfree isn't even a word! < 1255233623 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But GPL sux. :P) < 1255233643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Coca-Cola is the original cola, while there isn't a huge difference in taste, Pepsi mirrored their cola after Coke's, being just different enough in taste to not actually be the same drink." < 1255233651 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you serious, Pepsi tastes nothing like Coca-Cola < 1255233653 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I happen to like GPL however. < 1255233678 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you don't like GPL, you don't have to use it for your programs < 1255233706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Yes, but I have to deal with the effects of other people using GPL without in-depth reasoning on it, which I think would result in a lot fewer GPL libraries and programs. < 1255233713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*using the GPL < 1255233723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, opposing it can lead to less people using it, so nothing wrong with that. < 1255233744 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sees how GPL libraries are bad, but GPL programs?
< 1255233776 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modifying them. < 1255233783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generally I avoid doing so. < 1255233845 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know what I wurve more than distro wars? License wars! < 1255233861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody should express any opinions! Rabble rabble! < 1255233903 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES! Opinions are evil! < 1255233922 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially wrong ones! < 1255233927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People with strong opinions should die! < 1255233935 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No right ones are even worse! < 1255234093 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do even maintain a fork of a GPL project. I don't have a problem to modify it. < 1255234122 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there is another bonus in this specific case, that the software even works, too. < 1255234681 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But please, try the code more better this time, without Zombies, try to figure out if you can make any better guess as to what the letters and punctuations stand for, and stuff. < 1255234948 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1255235506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that problem solved itself < 1255235640 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1255235729 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: why O_o < 1255235819 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looked like you were dissing zzo there < 1255235837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, see the line immediately before < 1255235846 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :said while I was away < 1255235901 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1255235939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan is PMSing! wait, no. < 1255235971 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i'm in a good mood lately < 1255235984 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a very whatever mood < 1255236007 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever >:D < 1255236129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuteva lol < 1255236131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like wuteva < 1255236161 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuteva sounds polish < 1255236181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuteva polish may do, polish it, or i'll polish it for you < 1255236187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-eof random.txt- < 1255236192 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH KAY < 1255236202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALSO: Could this poem be about penises? EXPERTS ARE UNDECIDED. < 1255236226 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the experts are still busy testing the theory < 1255236258 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. with their penises, you see. < 1255236312 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is http://linuxcommand.gds.tuwien.ac.at/learning_the_shell.php a good tutorial? (Not for me, for someone on normish) < 1255236371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The introduction is not objectionable. Normish is jury-rigged quite hackishly, in my opinion, so it probably isn't the best place to learn command line stuff. < 1255236372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But sure. < 1255236423 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1255236434 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brainfuck is so hard to interpret o_@ < 1255236439 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.......... < 1255236440 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1255236441 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No it is not. < 1255236452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1255236454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: gtfo < 1255236470 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it is not when you're not using a functional language from vulcan :D < 1255236473 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if madbrain means "at a glance" < 1255236482 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: it is not hard even then. < 1255236486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: he is still wrong. < 1255236622 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like, this is my increment operator: < 1255236639 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(&(&<,&$<>,&(>,)(<,)>>,&<>,$$<>,&(>,)<,&<,>>,),$<,,) < 1255236659 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that is quite hard. < 1255236665 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that just means that language is hard, not BF. :P < 1255236667 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's probably a syntax error in there somewhere so it'll probably never work < 1255236741 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm doing stuff like extending integers with an infinite series of 1s and 0s so that it doesn't go into an infinite loop if you overflow < 1255236836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is this that single variable functional language? < 1255236860 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1255236895 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still hasn't proven to himself or anyone else that he can interpret loops
< 1255236899 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it took me 2 tries to write a program that repeats the input but terminates on 0 byte < 1255237070 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A task that you can do like this is brainfuck: ,[.,] < 1255237086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1255237182 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :,[.,] in brainfuck will repeat the input characters until you give it a 0 byte < 1255237942 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot, brainfuck operators are regrouped in an easy binary way < 1255238686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows what ,[.,] will do < 1255238697 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, untrue; in the most common variant, an EOF translates into 0 < 1255239081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : LAP-TOP: smaller and lighter than the average secretary < 1255239081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : PORTABLE: smaller and lighter than the average refrigerator < 1255239082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : TRANSPORTABLE: neither chained to a wall nor attached to an alarm < 1255239082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : system < 1255239082 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tasteless.jokes/msg/fc80e8216bf3babe?dmode=source&pli=1 < 1255239117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : COPY-PROTECTED: (1) a clever method of preventing incompetent < 1255239117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : pirates from STEALING software and legitimate customers from < 1255239118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : USING it. (2) a means of distinguishing honest users from < 1255239118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : thieves by preventing larceny by the former but not the latter. < 1255239122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, this is from 1994. < 1255239130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : WINDOWS: a method of dividing a computer screen into two or more < 1255239130 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : unusably tiny portions < 1255239132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tee hee. < 1255239139 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sometimes spot on, sometimes spot... off. < 1255240513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Deletion Options < 1255240517 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :( ) Do Not Delete Message < 1255240522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(X) Delete Message" < 1255240530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after clicking "Delete" in V-Bulletin < 1255240535 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*vBulletin < 1255241060 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=average+size < 1255241073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Average size = The mean of all countries population = 6.68 billion people. < 1255241088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? Protip: It takes account for every human who has ever lived. < 1255241096 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think. < 1255241098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, it doesn't. < 1255241102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aw, it's far more boring. < 1255241112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mean of total people living 2006-2009", basically. < 1255241117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's average size, if you ask W|A. < 1255242322 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :morbing < 1255242699 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/killers.html < 1255242701 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man! < 1255242710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope it embeds quicktime instead of opens it < 1255242717 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: mbrogning < 1255242790 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :about the scramble thing, i left out a very important thing: there are just two characters, a and b, and i realized my solution from last night doesn't work :P < 1255242825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[NEW] Use HTML5