< 1256256008 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually got three hours of sleep a night during my school days < 1256256014 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that... prolly not enough :P < 1256256017 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1256256048 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256256055 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1256256069 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Writing with a stylus actually works quite well... < 1256256078 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway < 1256256084 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? writing what? these words? < 1256256087 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm off to sleep < 1256256088 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but anyway! < 1256256089 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1256256092 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nighty < 1256256096 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ya..tomorrow? :O < 1256256102 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This, yeah < 1256256107 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay! < 1256256113 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And probably < 1256256117 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-> < 1256256123 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ClIRC - IRC client for Nintendo DS" < 1256256132 0 :augur!n=augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1256256192 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1256256367 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The input trains might go over bridges if you let them, but you're not supposed to let them go very deep. And yes, apparently the gate trains do go over those two bridges in the "return" track, so there the bridge type does matter. < 1256256395 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The gate trains shouldn't go over any other bridges, though (except maybe in the nor gate); if they do, they're a bit lost. < 1256256424 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1256256426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it would be better to avoid those being bridges in the ret track. < 1256256428 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for speed < 1256256443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does the trains ever go over those things *below* those return bridges? < 1256256508 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but the branches from the things below return bridges are so closely spaced (well, for the "right-most" track, anyway) that I don't think you can completely trivially swap the ground/bridge state. < 1256256525 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly I wasn't really speed-optimizing when I made the design. < 1256256660 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The routing is probably optimizable. Maybe you should get ais523 or someone to apply some circuit layout algorithms hacked to lay down OpenTTD tracks? < 1256256684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, circuit layout algorithms? < 1256256686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1256256687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :circuit layout's mostly evolution + brute-force < 1256256692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are those < 1256256696 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there don't seem to be any common "clever" algorithms < 1256256743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just made a 4 GB machine swap trash
< 1256256749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 GB RAM that is < 1256256798 0 :Oranjer1!n=Owner@74.243.217.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256257107 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1256257254 0 :Oranjer1!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256257258 0 :Oranjer1!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Oranjer < 1256257332 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: swapping actual data would probably work better < 1256257359 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was pretty groanific. < 1256257375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1256257412 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it < 1256257460 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a very bad pun < 1256257468 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, reverse-pun, really < 1256257481 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhh < 1256257507 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just read "trash" as a noun. < 1256257511 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it wasn't a pun in itself, but rather retroactively forced an unintended pun onto someone else's statement < 1256257540 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh okay < 1256257548 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non-consensual punning, how impolite. < 1256257562 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that < 1256257563 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1256257573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hah < 1256257599 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#esoteric: where it can take people over 3 minutes to get a joke < 1256257606 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(possibly over 4, I don't have seconds timestamps) < 1256257609 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I'm still looking for the joke < 1256257614 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just like the concept of it < 1256257622 0 :SimonRC_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :SimonRC < 1256257630 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1256257636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway I did it by opening fizzie's screenshot twice in gimp by mistake < 1256257766 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"just made a 4 GB machine swap trash"?? < 1256257779 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :swap trash with itself? < 1256257826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: swapping trash rather than swapping useful data < 1256257831 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's trash anyway, no reason to swap < 1256257837 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1256257856 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1256257859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, "swap trash" is however an accepted term < 1256258003 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1256262149 0 :cers!n=cers@0x573febba.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1105.vbrnqu2.customer.tele.dk JOIN :#esoteric < 1256262196 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello there, I am having some problems with the whitespace programming language that I figured you guys might be able to help me out with < 1256262283 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the "Hello World!" example available through wikipedia (and a couple of other places, as far as I can tell) does not seem to work for me < 1256262286 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_%28programming_language%29 < 1256262295 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it work for anyone else here? < 1256262452 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1256262459 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cers: Are you sure it got copypasted properly? Some editors might mangle tabs or so? < 1256262516 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: fairly sure - that was my first thought too, but I've tried in several editors, and as far as I can tell I have them configured properly < 1256262528 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: would you mind terribly giving it a go? :-) < 1256263135 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Good night" < 1256264231 0 :Oranjer1!n=Owner@adsl-243-217-96.cae.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1256264245 0 :Oranjer1!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Ot < 1256264253 0 :Ot!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Oranjer < 1256264620 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hola everyone! < 1256265632 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why hello there :-) < 1256265648 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why hello cers :-) < 1256267137 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: you don't happen to be a whitespace shart, ehh? :-) < 1256267146 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uhhh < 1256267157 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I...am not a whitespace shart, no < 1256267158 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1256267166 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean, the esoteric language whitespace? < 1256267200 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shark* :-S < 1256267211 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes - the language :-) < 1256267262 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no, not me < 1256268409 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wuhu.. I've written my first Hello World! (in whitespace) - couldn't find a working example anywhere - not one with that exact output at least < 1256268445 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1256268451 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is strange < 1256268484 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1256268563 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed - the one listed on their homepage outputs "Hello, world of spaces!" < 1256268592 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the ones I've found elsewhere that claim to output "Hello World!" (like wikipedia), I can't make work < 1256268610 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256268736 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1256270061 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1256270150 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1256270916 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: ¡hola! < 1256271064 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Warrigal: you should help our plans to tear Agora's ruleset down < 1256271080 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1256271172 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1256271302 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would require participating in Agora. :-P < 1256271322 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the problem with that would be? < 1256271363 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good question! What shall I do? < 1256271410 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just join and then when the appeal proposals start going through, help us vote them through < 1256271413 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*repeal < 1256271422 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait, you're registered but inactive right now, right? < 1256271510 0 :Warrigal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something like that. < 1256271621 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1256275416 0 :immibis!n=IceChat7@125-238-252-182.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz JOIN :#esoteric < 1256276142 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I've made a Hello World!\n that runs in whitespace, bf, c++ and python... in 417 chars :-) < 1256276150 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing my night wasn't wasted :-S < 1256276247 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it use conditional compilation? < 1256276298 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :polyglots are more awesome when they don't read if(C) DO THIS elif(C++) DO THIS elif(Java) DO THAT < 1256276354 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I wouldn't even know how to do that - but it's more or less based on the correct things being either not used by some languages, or commented out for them < 1256276373 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in case of bf and ws, they just plain ignore most chars < 1256276378 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link? < 1256276450 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://users.skumleren.net/cers/helloworld.ws.bf.py.cpp < 1256276506 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't even know there was a word for this sort of thing :-S < 1256276511 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not terrible < 1256276575 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I started out trying to weave in the bf into a giant obfuscated c++ hello world, but figured it would be more fun to do it in as few hars as possible, and more languages < 1256276588 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know I can save some on the whitespace actually < 1256276863 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could put spaces around the x in print(x) < 1256276882 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i suppose that doesn't actually make it smaller < 1256276887 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or shoter < 1256276889 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shorter < 1256276933 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a seemingly useless */ < 1256277009 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: the print() is a C++ macro, it needs parens < 1256277035 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :print( x ) < 1256277042 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then i realised it's the same filesize either way < 1256277051 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe bigger < 1256277061 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I see < 1256277080 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahh - remnant from older version I think < 1256277115 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :down to 407 bytes now < 1256277130 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did some cleaning up in the ws too < 1256277144 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :url is updated < 1256277149 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also try including stdio.h and calling printf(x); instead of cout< in C < 1256277339 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*C__ < 1256277341 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*C++ < 1256277343 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fails
< 1256277364 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although... there is one drawback.. < 1256277393 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a linebreak - but python already adds it < 1256277449 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a linebreak where? < 1256277463 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after "Hello World!" < 1256277469 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need it to print a linebreak < 1256277480 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I cannot use the char "," < 1256277566 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1256277588 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make it "Hello World!\n" and put a ; after the print? < 1256277594 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean , < 1256277601 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait, that's a syntax error in c++ < 1256277611 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I cannot use the char , < 1256277623 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I got it down to 401 < 1256277640 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :url updated again < 1256277660 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Python 3.x < 1256277665 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about Python 2.x? < 1256277666 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1256277685 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: this works fine in Python 2.6.2 < 1256277693 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I'm using < 1256277695 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1256277748 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: but only because I'm not printing several values - otherwise 2.x would think it was a tuple and print it as such < 1256277763 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cers, oh, didn't think of that < 1256277766 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like if I did print("foo","bar") < 1256277773 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, as the parens not meaning function) < 1256277826 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hadn't exactly thought it that much through to begin with myself :-) < 1256277911 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely #define x (1>1) is redundant, so is //< because it doesn't matter what brainfuck cell you start at? < 1256277915 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless the spaces mean something < 1256277996 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: depending on the interpreter, you cannot go back from the first cell, and the include would attempt that with the < < 1256278031 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nothing would happen... < 1256278044 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though I could do without the back move I guess < 1256278057 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my interpreter throws an error if you try < 1256278105 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but good catch on the back move after include - that shaved another 3 bytes off < 1256278131 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back move? < 1256278149 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where? < 1256278156 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ://< < 1256278171 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION must be looking at an old version
< 1256278225 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :newest version is up now < 1256278228 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1256278354 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include "cstdio" < 1256278363 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets you delete the entire first line < 1256278397 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: and then tell the compiler where to find it manually? < 1256278418 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise "" would mean cwd < 1256278430 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, then the directories normally searched by <> < 1256278434 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well < 1256278440 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1256278461 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think so < 1256278487 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed it would seem so < 1256278531 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or try: int printf(...); < 1256278535 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that is not portable < 1256278621 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :384 bytes now < 1256280115 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :immibis: Not to mention that that's not the type signature. ;) < 1256280126 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int printf(char *,...); < 1256280255 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1256280374 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is fun < 1256280393 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy christ google is fast.. I wrote a small blog entry on the tihng, and like 5 mins after I publish I thought I'd see if there were others like it out there - and bam, there's my blog on the first result page < 1256280446 0 :zzo38!n=zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1256280498 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int printf(...) is shorter, and will work on some platforms, but not all < 1256280542 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah - I'd rather have the include then < 1256280561 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :va_start takes the name of the last named argument < 1256280598 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I could only find my own hello world in brainfuck (my 3rd ever attempt came in at only 2 chars less than the guy who invented the language - 3 chars less than the standing record) < 1256280704 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err "chars more"* < 1256280767 0 :fizzie!i=fis@83.150.124.63 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256280933 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmntbombdood: it's a prototype for printf, not a definition < 1256281158 0 :madbrain!n=madbrain@modemcable175.136-81-70.mc.videotron.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1256281161 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey < 1256281329 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yesterday I have a dream < 1256281347 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1256281356 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There was various clubs for the different elements types of pokemons: Water Club, Fire Club, Poison Club, etc. < 1256281363 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there was also Miscellaneous Club. < 1256281382 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Miscellaneous Club had a rule that it was not allowed to have any members, so it didn't have any members. < 1256281448 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than Miscellaneous Club, each one had two possible membership requirements, if you met at least one, you were allowed to join. < 1256281509 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo: want to help me design an esoteric game system < 1256281522 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first was the common one: If you had a pokemon of that element type by just agreement those pokemons decided to go with you anyways, with not the normal way, that was OK. After that you can use a pokeball if you wish to, but it is not required. Masterballs are not allowed. < 1256281547 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, your other pokemons (if any) can be caught the normal way or anything else, even Masterballs are allowed here if you want to. < 1256281594 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other alternate requirement was different for each club and had nothing to do with pokemon at all (so if you have no pokemon, know nothing about it, whatever, that's also OK). The alt. requirement has something to do with that element type however, outside of pokemon. < 1256281602 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: maybe! < 1256281861 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :madbrain: Do you know MegaZeux? I have built-in Forth interpreter into MegaZeux, so you can possibly use that to implement esoteric programming, too. And possibly even more confusing things, too, if you want to... < 1256281879 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i know megazeux < 1256281904 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a forth retro system might be an idea < 1256281931 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean Retro Forth, or do you mean something else? < 1256281956 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nops < 1256282299 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have written Forth systems, I can probably do it with assembly language or machine-codes, too. Which is, I do plan to do so one day, to build a simple computer with Z80 and Forth, and a OSD chip. < 1256282308 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's just about all. < 1256282319 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Other than external connectors) < 1256282332 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :osd chip? < 1256282463 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSD for On-Screen-Display. It can be used to write text to the screen. < 1256282523 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later on, after I build that, I also plan to build a more complex computer with a ARM11 (possibly another processor?), some DSPs, a hard drive, DVD drive, front panel, USB, RAM, ROM, and some other things. < 1256282532 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to design some hardware that could be realized in a FPGA < 1256282538 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARM11 is just what I decided at first, if there is a better choice I can do that too < 1256282552 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should talk to mukunda perhaps < 1256282574 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have also want to design some hardware in other ways, I have made part of a computer in Circuit Maker (digital simulation mode). < 1256282591 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I have to put all the components for the CPU by myself, but I have some ideas already and already did some. < 1256282735 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of cpu? risc? < 1256282737 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stack? < 1256282784 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A simple RISC CPU. < 1256282810 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1256282810 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It had a GOTO with each instruction sort of like the computer Mel programmed. < 1256282821 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And various other things that are a bit strange. < 1256282832 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it is very low-level < 1256282876 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of the first esoteric system i came up with < 1256282905 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically an esoteric 16bit VM based on self modifying code < 1256282905 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK. How was it? < 1256282909 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O. < 1256282965 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :each op was, like, [ALU instruction][operand 1 address][operand 2 address][goto address] < 1256282987 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put in some registers that can only be increment or reset and cannot be written to in any other way. Some others are a bit different < 1256283022 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The different registers acted differently, so you had to copy values from register into other registers a lot because each register worked in a different way. < 1256283084 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is mukunda, anyways? < 1256283181 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some guy in another channel < 1256283195 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on... espernet < 1256283244 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have espernet on another window right now. Which channel? < 1256283262 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I just so happened to already have the espernet open) < 1256283316 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he's probably sleeping right now, but he's in #mod_shrine < 1256283351 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK < 1256283372 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he was talking about making some arm based system < 1256283378 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::mukunda!mukunda@117.201.99.76 NOTICE zzo38 :TIME Fri Oct 23 12:05:59 2009 < 1256283417 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does he sleep at that time? Or just not using IRC at that time? Is that the correct time anyways? < 1256283437 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's in india < 1256283565 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm mostly interested in sound chip and video hardware design :D < 1256283610 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I plan to do so. < 1256283645 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some ideas are, use a DSP for video, another DSP for audio, and for video also use a video encoder chip and a LPGA (I have heard that a LPGA is also required). < 1256283693 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lpga? < 1256283696 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would be optimal in my opinion, is to get a DSP that can be clocked up to make it do exactly two instructions per pixel at least. (Possibly more, but still an exact integer number of instructions per pixel would be good) < 1256283721 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm but what would you do in those two instructions? < 1256283724 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They told me that a LPGA is a small FPGA, and it is used to transfer the memory to the video output while the DSP is doing other computations. < 1256283753 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing specifically, if the LPGA transfers it, you can do anything you like there, it is used mostly for special effects and stuff like that. < 1256283770 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I plan, also to do, the main CPU can send programs to the video and audio DSPs < 1256283771 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 ops per pixel isn't much < 1256283795 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I have been told, is that normally a DSP does less than 1 instruction per pixel, because it isn't fast enough. < 1256283797 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1256283805 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like, copy pixel, copy pixel... barely enough power for anything else < 1256283827 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it has to be clocked to *at least* 2 per pixel. The same person, what they say, is the LPGA is used to copy the pixels. < 1256283830 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo: well, what are they, RAM timed? < 1256283839 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do calculation during HBLANK and VBLANK too, of course. < 1256283845 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and specifically DRAM timed? < 1256283857 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if they are RAM timed or anything. I was told this, but I need more information, of course. < 1256283879 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has to do with timing for DRAM < 1256283897 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also it needs double bus RAM, with two address bus and two data bus for the video memory. That way the main CPU and the DSP can both access it simultaneously < 1256283906 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you do one full access each time you read/write something, you can go up to max 6mhz < 1256283951 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a low resolution mode like 320x240 @ 60fps outputs..... 6 million pixels per second < 1256283995 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to do 3d rendering (with no z buffering) you need to have like 3 times the screen's area in fillrate < 1256284015 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which means that you need cache (that's how the psx does it) < 1256284051 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, so that's why you do slightly less than 1 instruction per pixel. Well, I will figure it out, I guess. < 1256284061 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who is immibis? They just sent me a CTRL+A TIME < 1256284076 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1256284077 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, they are on this channel < 1256284087 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why do such things? < 1256284104 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also the word "time" in lowercase this time (my client still accepts it in lowercase) < 1256284141 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some random guy who now knows that you're up at < 1256284142 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how do I speed up the RAM? I don't know a lot about DSPs. < 1256284148 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11:41 pm < 1256284192 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, that's why 286s/386s/68000s can't go faster than a certain speed and aren't pipelined < 1256284193 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O, you sent it a second time and this time in uppercase. Why do you do like that? My program accepts VERSION and FINGER and USERINFO too. < 1256284203 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wtf? < 1256284207 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have cache you litterally can't go faster < 1256284226 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does DSP have cache? < 1256284233 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno! < 1256284249 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the side effect of cache is that you lose execution time guarantees < 1256284275 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is putting a space before the command work supposed to be work for CTRL+A command? < 1256284328 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the timing is a bit off I guess that's OK if it is fast enough and the LPGA is fast enough and the HBLANK and VBLANK clocks are usable < 1256284386 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure DSPs are appropriate for video < 1256284393 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they do work for sound afaik tho < 1256284396 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why ctrl-a? there's /ctcp < 1256284401 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least on this client < 1256284419 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. So, mIRC and LimeChat supports spaces between CTRL+A and the command word, I guess. < 1256284438 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this client, /ctcp results in "UNKNOWN SLASH COMMAND" < 1256284449 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But this is a different client that I wrote myself. < 1256284454 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why it is different < 1256284482 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if he should try making a browser that supports pages in some sort of database format
< 1256284500 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If DSP is not appropriate for video, how can I then build my own video devices then, instead? < 1256284504 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is better? < 1256284506 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmmmmm < 1256284514 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good question < 1256284517 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to use the existing video card, I want to learn how to build my own < 1256284532 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) simple frame buffer based hardware + fast cpu < 1256284539 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) fpga < 1256284565 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1256284569 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else < 1256284615 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"fast cpu" is something pentium-fast < 1256284622 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with cache and stuff like that < 1256284739 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also depends on what sort of gfx you want < 1256284796 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would still like to have a separate processor for the video, however. The FPGA or LPGA could be used as frame buffer is what I have been told about it. The sort of graphics is, just good 2D graphics on a TV screen is good enough, 3D is not needed. < 1256284799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1256284800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1256284869 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for 2d depends on stuff like what color depth you want, if you want lots of mobile sprites or you're ok with a boring game where nothing moves, how fast your cpu is < 1256284908 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure you could do a SNES style graphics processor in a fpga < 1256284930 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If the video has its own processor that can be reprogrammed by the individual programs that you are running, then it can have a lot of effects. But there will be a default video program in there too, probably just to do tile mode and possibly sprites. < 1256284943 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1256284962 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can try to see how to do a SNES style with FPGA or whatever it is < 1256284970 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the problem with something programmable is that you'd need a very very high clock rate < 1256285013 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I mean there can be a few extra components for support hardware too, such as a small FPGA to transfer data and possibly a few other functions < 1256285021 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because at 320x240 at 60fps with 1 clock per pixel you're at 6mhz already < 1256285038 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sort of like a frame buffer function with a little bit of extra functions < 1256285045 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also there are 2 fairly different paradigms for 2d < 1256285051 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 is frame buffer < 1256285059 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other one is no frame buffer < 1256285077 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PC games = frame buffer < 1256285124 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie to plot a sprite to the screen you (1) read the pixels (2) write the pixels (3) later on the video card reads the pixels again to show a picture < 1256285150 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SNES is typically no frame buffer < 1256285186 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically on SNES you put all the sprites in VRAM on loading < 1256285217 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then it renders the screen line while the previous line is being shown on TV < 1256285237 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it has (1) read pixels from vram < 1256285249 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IE it uses 3 times less memory bandwidth < 1256285288 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's not much cost for 60fps so all the games run smooth < 1256285296 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not very flexible < 1256285357 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, yes I do understand this OK < 1256285392 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why you can do slow 10fps 3d on a 386 but you can't on a SNES :D < 1256285501 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other ideas I have for this computer, is, have NMI that is hooked to the main CPU and all other processors and components, and also to a flip-flop which sets privilege. Writing to a certain memory location will clear the flip-flop. < 1256285508 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a 386 basically can't run a 2d game at 60fps unless it "cheats" < 1256285528 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pushing all four buttons on the front panel at once is one thing that can make a NMI signal, but there will be others too < 1256285547 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you going to use an NMI for < 1256285560 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because, I would need something to prevent programs from accessing partitions of the hard drive that it doesn't have permission for. < 1256285572 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The other things for NMI, is for debug and terminating a program < 1256285583 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In case the program won't respond, the NMI will force it to do so. < 1256285589 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There can be many other purposes too < 1256285611 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an HBLANK interrupt would be cool < 1256285619 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For example, there might be some memory location to cause a NMI when written to < 1256285635 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, 99% of the SNES effects are HBLANK modification of video registers < 1256285649 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and doing that is pretty much impossible on PC < 1256285674 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, for the video processor, if it does, it would have HBLANK and VBLANK interrupt (which aren't NMI). The main CPU might have a VBLANK interrupt if I decide to put one in. < 1256285741 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, HBLANK and VBLANK aren't NMI. (NMI is used for other uses instead) < 1256285764 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the video I think you should skip having a processor and come up with some flexible hardware in the FPGA < 1256285793 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then other stuff can steal your hblank interrupt :O < 1256285889 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, you could unify sound with video into a sort of fancy pants DMA controller < 1256285931 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that basically does a data copying loop < 1256285977 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could easily add video modifying steps as stages in the pipeline < 1256286050 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and make some DMA accesses able to trigger interrups < 1256286072 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that way you can stream sound < 1256286147 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :These are good ideas which I will consider < 1256286237 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHAHAHAHA < 1256286253 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A spammer sent me several lines... all of which contradict eachother < 1256286344 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, something like: < 1256286354 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/img_10/o9iatl.jpg" < 1256286384 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, I don't know if I want to post it here, since there's nsfw language < 1256286422 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think anyone here's going to be under 18 < 1256286465 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus other irc channels routinely link to stuff like porn anyways < 1256286474 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird's under 18 < 1256286498 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"me and my boyfriend just broke up so now im going to get even with him watch me and his brothr and if you know himn make SURE YOU TELL HIM http://tinyurl.com/------ my boyfriend is such a cheating asshole... Help me get back at him! Watch me fuck his best friend! http://tinyurl.com/------ me and my boyfriend just love getting naughty in front of strangers!!im blonde - 18! watch me get fucked hard http://tinyurl.com/-------" < 1256286503 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All in one IM < 1256286546 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spambot < 1256286567 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know < 1256286568 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Spambot?! < 1256286576 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naaaah < 1256286584 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just a nymphomaniac with mood swings. < 1256286588 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just amusing that contradicting statements like that were in the same PM < 1256286607 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would make sense with the latter one, then a few minutes later one of the first two < 1256286626 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would seriously amuse me < 1256286792 0 :madbrain!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Radiateur" < 1256286810 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol Gregor < 1256287185 0 :MigoMipo!i=3e779bfd@gateway/web/freenode/x-ntunratzebbxzvaw JOIN :#esoteric < 1256287952 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Page closed" < 1256288401 0 :ais523!n=ais523@147.188.254.120 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256289253 0 :immibis!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Don't push the red button!" < 1256290046 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1256293579 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1256295525 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1256296629 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1256296947 0 :jix!n=jix@141.83.65.146 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256299152 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1256300402 0 :jix!n=jix@141.83.65.126 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256301219 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1256302079 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Lost terminal" < 1256302434 0 :fax!n=somebody@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1256302624 0 :FireFly[DS]!n=nds@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1256303037 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"leaving" < 1256304273 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection reset by peer < 1256304280 0 :FireFly[DS]!n=nds@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1256304281 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1256304809 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!n=nice@91.19.67.188 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256308196 0 :KingOfKarlsruhe!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1256311784 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, there? I solved the "don't change level" thing. Still have a bridge (seems you can't build signals in tunnels. Very odd < 1256311804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is used to simutrans that allows you to build complex underground networks if you want
< 1256311846 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1256312692 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"I am leaving. You are about to explode." < 1256312860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, here is the improved gate: http://omploader.org/vMmxwbA < 1256312881 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite fiddly though < 1256313200 0 :ehird!n=ehird@212.183.140.50 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256314581 0 :jix!n=jix@g224097066.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1256314709 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mhmm, right. < 1256314723 0 :jix_!n=jix@g224096146.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1256314724 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any numbers, does the maglevity have any sort of measurable effect there? < 1256314804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hard to measure since the trains seems to start computing even before all of the input trains moved into place < 1256314817 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so no, but it seems less at least. < 1256314822 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, it's quite fuzzy. < 1256314841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh and I only converted one of the gates fully (the lower ground bit I mean) < 1256314850 0 :cers!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 113 (No route to host) < 1256314871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other ones I only converted the bridge closest to the depot for < 1256314888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :due to it being so fiddly for the lower ground stuff < 1256314964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also it annoys me no end that you can't build proper under ground networks in openttd < 1256315023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huge stations under ground, possibly multilayer. However, there is one much worse issue with all games I have come across in this genre... That is that the scale of stuff is way way off. < 1256315031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Compare the trains to the buildings for example < 1256315051 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1256315164 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, well, realism probably hasn't really been a goal in most of the games. < 1256315187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, oh and that cargo is happy to go to any destination. At least in simutrans all generated cargo has a destination, and it tries path finding through the different companies networks to find a route there. < 1256315230 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yeah and you can only make 45 degree turns. Oh and in openttd roads can't go diagonally, only tracks can. Very odd < 1256315248 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants tracks to be vector-something
< 1256315252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to add realism < 1256315280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :high speed track like for TGV certainly doesn't make sharp 45 degree turns for example :P < 1256315465 0 :fax!n=somebody@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1256315726 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1256316586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, people < 1256316589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PEOPLE < 1256316591 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1256316621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :P E O P L E < 1256316622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey < 1256317168 0 :Pthing!n=pthing@77-100-194-169.cable.ubr04.pres.blueyonder.co.uk JOIN :#esoteric < 1256317495 0 :BeholdMyGlory!n=behold@d83-183-183-70.cust.tele2.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1256317608 0 :FireFly[DS]!n=nds@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1256317788 0 :MigoMipo!i=54d90f1d@gateway/web/freenode/x-cmjidkscdepoktow JOIN :#esoteric < 1256318132 0 :FireFly!n=FireFly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1256319658 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Dinnertime" < 1256319677 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Coming HTML 5 Train Wreck" on xmltoday.org. Brace for stupidity! < 1256319734 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(a good indication of just how mature these deliberations are can be found in these IRC threads from a recent WHATWG meeting)" < 1256319758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noo, people on IRC being informal! < 1256319837 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Vendors will implement those parts of the HTML 5 spec that happen to best fulfill their own particular objectives, and will be sloppy about implementing anything else - sloppy specs produce sloppy conformance." < 1256319839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he should probably have written this before the majority of HTML5 was implemented by browsers < 1256319897 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, the comments are even worse: < 1256319898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Ever since I heard about the discontinuation of the xhtml group, I've had the feeling that Google thought they were pulling one over on the web community. They were going to bake some Google specific technology into the spec (which they are already using in Wave). What I don't think they counted on is that if they wind up bringing back the browser wars to try to gain competitive advantage over the other big IT groups, I'll have to take matters into my ow < 1256319898 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- and build ENTIRE SITES IN FLASH." < 1256320329 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-162-151-12.range86-162.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1256320534 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ClIRC - IRC client for Nintendo DS" < 1256321444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes-Stallman-you-also-helped/Linux" < 1256321521 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Page closed" < 1256321567 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I installed Debian GNU/Hurd on my laptop so people would say "is that Linux?" and I'd say "no, it's GNU." and they get confused. < 1256322104 0 :Pthing!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulations, you are worse than richard stallman < 1256322153 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: do... do you actually... use it? < 1256322171 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you... are you even real, man... are you a person < 1256322375 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol Gregor < 1256323984 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1256324313 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1256324708 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose I should say I'm using GNU/Windows when I'm using mingw. < 1256324724 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1256324775 0 :pikhq!n=pikhq@r02jjw8v9.device.mst.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1256324805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, really? < 1256325119 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: iwc < 1256325158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, indeed. Read it hours ago. Forgot what it was about < 1256325162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you weren't around then < 1256325170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please remind me < 1256325174 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION almost forgot it too
< 1256325180 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :martians < 1256325183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1256325213 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1256325589 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: oerjan: i contend that you both don't actually enjoy iwc anymore. < 1256325602 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1256325607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? < 1256325624 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forgetting it so soon :) < 1256325640 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are so many themes < 1256325644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1256325691 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may know what is happening in each without remembering which was on last < 1256325828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same < 1256328063 0 :jix_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1256329857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1256329909 0 :ehird!n=ehird@212.183.140.52 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256330433 0 :Gracenotes!n=person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1256330478 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1256330548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zfs.macosforge.org/ RIP Apple's effort to port ZFS to OS X 2006? — 2009 < 1256330568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cause of death: Probably CDDL. < 1256330579 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or Oracle.) < 1256331254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 145 (Connection timed out) < 1256331420 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1256331437 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o_O < 1256331465 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is taking a class on Oracle
< 1256331497 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the mind boggles why cmeme comes back when the website it links to disappeared years ago... < 1256331536 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1256331537 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, what? < 1256331562 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cmeme is an irc logging bot. but the website it logs _to_ hasn't existed for years < 1256331591 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it's starting to exist again? < 1256331618 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, still nonexisting < 1256331627 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've seen it a couple times before < 1256331633 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(cmeme that is) < 1256331661 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's bot is cmeme, though? < 1256331666 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe we should tell 'em < 1256331713 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this blog may be the owner's: http://www.b9.com/blog/index.html < 1256331729 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rosenberg. < 1256331731 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JEWS < 1256331808 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and on the sabbath too, afaik < 1256331830 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is not shabbath yet < 1256331839 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1256331860 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um sabbath starts at sunset friday, doesn't it? < 1256331869 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Iunno < 1256331876 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I usually just remember "saturday" < 1256331884 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats Slereah for being a useless jew -----###
< 1256331887 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm afraid I only celebrate caturday < 1256331892 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1256331895 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That reminds me < 1256331895 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is Jewish (not beliefwise though)
< 1256331900 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should start a caturday thread soon < 1256331919 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's go to 2chan's neko board < 1256331922 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is full of cats < 1256332203 0 :ehird!n=ehird@212.183.134.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256332605 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://ditaa.sourceforge.net/ < 1256332720 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"./.wine/dosdevices/c:/windows/profiles/ehird/My Documents/Colloquy Transcripts/" < 1256332723 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now that's just ridiculous < 1256332814 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION can't draw ASCII diagrams for his life
< 1256332832 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that I ever tried < 1256332955 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1256333358 0 :Oranjer!n=Owner@74.243.217.96 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256333368 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256333580 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O: < 1256333599 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O;O bzzzzzZZZzzzz < 1256333604 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a fly) < 1256333685 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SWAT* -----### < 1256333697 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BZZZZzzzzz..... < 1256333706 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1256333710 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Twitch* < 1256333715 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1256333735 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----###
< 1256333743 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1256333751 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1256333755 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dies
< 1256333765 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION drinks some more tea
< 1256333772 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, I'll be back in half 'n' hour < 1256333772 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256333776 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flies in me tea? < 1256333797 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote * oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### Meh * FireFly dies < 1256333799 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :94|* oerjan swats FireFly since he's easier to hit -----### Meh * FireFly dies < 1256333817 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, nope, tea in your fly < 1256333820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1256333820 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :39| I'm a furry < 1256333823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1256333824 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :27| oerjan: are you a man, if there weren't evil in this kingdom to you! you shall find bekkler! executing program. please let me go... put me out! he's really a tricycle! pass him! < 1256333830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1256333830 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22|IN AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE: First, invent the direct mind-computer interface. Second, learn the rest with your NEW MIND-COMPUTER INTERFACE. < 1256333874 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://normish.org/sgeo/quotes.txt < 1256333897 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :26| Meh ._. < 1256333900 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about that? :P < 1256334217 0 :cmeme!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1256335045 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1256335101 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's up with quote 22? did it really access an alternate universe? < 1256335240 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly < 1256335245 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1256335250 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's the only reasonable explanation < 1256335252 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I BELieve that < 1256335269 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1256335269 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: fwiw sml and scheme are very different, if i tell other people the population at large if not your direct peers.) < 1256335277 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1256335290 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa really? is that so fungot? < 1256335291 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: it is. it makes it easy. i'm looking for < 1256335301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err. that was almost relevant < 1256335302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scary < 1256335303 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1256335307 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, freaky < 1256335313 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot is getting more intelligent by the week < 1256335314 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: looks like i have to click through dozens of warnings. < 1256335321 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you looking for, fungot? < 1256335322 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: like in mips- < 1256335325 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256335344 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what do you think about COBOL? < 1256335345 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: and fnord really isn't a productive argument: it'll eventually reduce down to some base case is the empty game which gets close. < 1256335356 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1256335364 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, when I say anything, it gets dumber < 1256335369 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, are you a reductionist? < 1256335369 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: if you want to view it like that your computer blows up. < 1256335373 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1256335379 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe intelligence is simply a sufficiently large markov chain < 1256335382 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1256335387 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1256335391 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with its ups and downs < 1256335406 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION should try to learn what a markov chain is
< 1256335407 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, I would like you to exhibit intelligent behavior immediately. < 1256335408 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: in a list? ( new lst) ( if ( sense ahead foe?) x" to give you a hint: < 1256335408 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, maybe < 1256335417 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, okay, that didn't work? < 1256335427 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, actually maybe it did. < 1256335431 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps < 1256335436 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was too smart for me??? < 1256335438 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256335439 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"sense ahead" sounds like a primitive AI < 1256335449 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean < 1256335457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :input for a primitive robot AI or such < 1256335486 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the foe? would be recognition of a "foe", at which point it does action x? < 1256335507 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly fungot is scheming against us < 1256335507 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: an isp is not a language issue, if there is a case for the first, apparently: the product set of a set of flags, like fnord < 1256335509 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe we're reading into it too much < 1256335513 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, not sure about that. Need to see the context. Clearly that is just a fragment of the relevant code < 1256335521 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1256335522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a glitch in the matrix so to say < 1256335542 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, Apophenia < 1256335558 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, ? < 1256335571 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apophenia is the experience of seeing patterns or connections in random or meaningless data. < 1256335574 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so says wiki < 1256335588 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia < 1256335589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what wiki? the esolang one? < 1256335592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah the other one < 1256335594 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, no < 1256335596 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1256335599 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"that other wiki" < 1256335615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that is someone else who says that iirc < 1256335628 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it just me, or is "Markov chain" not particularly descriptive of what the bot actually does? < 1256335629 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tvtropes says that a lot < 1256335630 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um. tvtroupes maybe? < 1256335632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah yes < 1256335635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ spelling < 1256335646 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, um what < 1256335660 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tv tropes! why a u? < 1256335665 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, it uses a markov chain, but from my understanding, that doesn't really tell you much < 1256335689 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, why not < 1256335700 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the url < 1256335711 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh tv tropes, why art u < 1256335714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after all it is "colour" so it would seem a natural spelling to use "troupes" < 1256335747 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while I'm okay with using any spelling to convey meaning (if you understand it, it doesn't matter the medium to me), I DO try to use endonyms wherever possible < 1256335758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googles endonyms
< 1256335761 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`define endonym < 1256335762 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* An exonym (from the ἔcw, éxo, "out" and ὄnoµa, ónoma, "name") is a name for a place that is not used within that place by the local ... \ [15]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endonym \ * A name used by a group or category of people to refer to themselves or their language, as opposed to a name given to them < 1256335767 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah not alone < 1256335778 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1256335788 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I try to use endonyms as opposed to exonyms < 1256335791 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, what has that got to do with this? < 1256335796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and example < 1256335804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because that `define was too terse < 1256335819 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tv tropes uses the phrase "TV tropes" to describe itself, so I will use their spelling < 1256335827 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Dissociated-Press.html haha < 1256335852 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reminds me of travesty generators < 1256335875 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.eskimo.com/~rstarr/poormfa/travesty.html < 1256336000 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, what? < 1256336009 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, what do you have to say to prove your sentience? < 1256336010 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: uh, sorry, maybe a longer example? it's in the east side :p < 1256336017 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::OOOOO whoa < 1256336133 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has everyone died? < 1256336138 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...sorry? < 1256336461 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Brains... < 1256336479 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, zomboerjan < 1256336491 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello, brain... < 1256336503 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, do you have a brain? < 1256336503 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: mm. very rare indeedy < 1256336508 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay... < 1256336511 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no help there < 1256336529 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, certainly you can eat the brain of someone less...important than me? < 1256336540 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because uhhh I'm totally very important, yeah < 1256336544 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :king of a country, I am < 1256336563 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fungot must've misread that as "do you like brains?" or something. < 1256336574 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah but i am a socialist zombie. down with the oppressors! then eat their brains. < 1256336582 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1256336619 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not an oppressor! I am a benevolent dictator! I prevent the people from hurting each other and themselves without resorting to a dystopic police state! < 1256336626 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/I'm a good guy!!!!!/ < 1256336661 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what they all say. < 1256336672 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1256336772 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1256336778 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what should we do today? < 1256336814 0 :cmeme!n=cmeme@boa.b9.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1256336864 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello cmeme < 1256336864 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1256336876 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goodbye kar8nga < 1256336887 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, World! < 1256336897 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Just a random statement, not really a greeting.) < 1256336898 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF < 1256336899 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Do you believe in alien encounters? < 1256336900 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I believe < 1256336900 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have seen one < 1256336900 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not sure" < 1256336914 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, Sgeo? < 1256336918 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is that from? < 1256336924 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, some poll on Facebook < 1256336931 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Advertising some movie < 1256336942 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I like how seeing one does not necessarily mean you believe < 1256336952 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen the commo's for that movie < 1256336956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:01] fungot: oerjan: looks like i have to click through dozens of warnings. < 1256336956 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: well it _does_ make it a string < 1256336957 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot dislikes vista < 1256336957 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: mzscheme has a type system < 1256336958 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abduction and what not < 1256336968 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I have seen one, but I habitually see things that do not really exist." < 1256336987 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha! < 1256336989 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see things that don't exist every night < 1256336994 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apophenia! < 1256337002 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, hypnogogia! < 1256337037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehird: mzscheme has a type system <-- it does? < 1256337038 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: why not on your usual os? sounds kinky. :p starting to get it running on da alpha < 1256337043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1256337046 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf XD < 1256337064 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome, fungot--you are my new hero < 1256337065 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: there was fnord who isn't even in the typical case of actually watching ants duke it out in more interesting things. < 1256337072 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256337084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1256337085 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1256337086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does have a type system, yes. < 1256337087 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ct < 1256337088 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ct (Chrono Trigger game script) < 1256337092 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right < 1256337098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It isn't very good./ < 1256337098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, so? < 1256337098 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: time to shove off! the name's bandeau. here to build the ocean palace? < 1256337099 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, what? < 1256337108 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\/$// < 1256337111 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: < 1256337112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1256337112 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct* darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1256337113 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, whoa what? < 1256337122 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Different babble corpses. < 1256337122 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :styles for fungot? < 1256337122 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: see? i like marle better than " princess,' the chosen time has come! he's strong and he's gonna thrash those monsters! yea! is it? < 1256337124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just wanted a change < 1256337127 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style darwin < 1256337127 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: darwin (Books by Charles Darwin -- you know, that evilution guy) < 1256337131 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: Do the emoticon bug. < 1256337135 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1256337137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: < 1256337137 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O;O < 1256337137 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: letter 390. from a.r. wallace. < 1256337140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: < 1256337141 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: in an early chapter :) this volume. when we consider how many parts :) fnord, in 1862 and 1863, by hildebrand in 1864, a post he resigned in 1894 owing to fnord his death was/ result. < 1256337143 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1256337144 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: we are naturally led to inquire how long it is, however, < 1256337151 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darwin's well-known for his overuse of :). < 1256337152 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An error in the corpse-eater thingy. < 1256337158 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1256337159 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1256337161 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1256337162 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin* discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1256337164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1256337166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^source < 1256337167 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/fungot < 1256337167 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style agora < 1256337168 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: agora (a large selection of Agora rules, both current and historical) < 1256337172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Legalistic! < 1256337173 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: except as explicitly set out in the < 1256337173 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no that one is boring < 1256337175 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what caused all the evolution debates; no-one could take him seriously with all the smileys. < 1256337177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Legalistic^2! < 1256337177 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: a player who has not changed eir role in a month or more properties all of the switch. < 1256337180 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: this is not actually true.) < 1256337180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1256337181 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1256337184 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1256337184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hi there < 1256337188 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm picking representative samples for Oranjer < 1256337188 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: mr president, the draft on 3 may 2001. the proposed decision to allow burma membership is a clear danger that a major debate, parliament will give its cooperation. i believe that this position touches the limits of its powers voted by a 95% majority for europe to recover technological leadership through strong investment, above all, in this case the latter falls within the responsibility of the member states in case o < 1256337194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh right < 1256337199 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you are talking way to fast for human-me! < 1256337206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: You can scroll up. < 1256337209 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use this ability. < 1256337211 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, yeah < 1256337220 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or you can upgrade yourself. It's 2009 and all. < 1256337222 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, I'm not the president. But whatever. < 1256337224 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it just seems I'm getting a delay in communique < 1256337224 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: mr president, i should like to say that when the council was trying to decide how best to prevent such an attack would be taken by surprise. the governments must have their support. < 1256337230 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, right. < 1256337231 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: mr president, thank you for allowing me to ask what could have been resolved, at the united nations a significant and quantifiable commercial prejudice for all the key to establishing peace and stability in europe is available. this example was not unusual, unfortunately, is regularly raised during contacts with the council through the presidency of the council, and the future of europe are deeply concerned about the < 1256337236 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ffs < 1256337239 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I am Spartacus^Wthe President! < 1256337240 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: mr president, today's report is rather disappointing and current events are bearing out the words written by myself only a few years' time, and so that they could feel more closely involved. i only hope that we can make this work better for us and certainly very bad too if we are prepared to do or say. there is increasing concern and that concerns the union' s transport policy because it sustains bad management and fnord < 1256337244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1256337249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: What a shame. We must cooperate. < 1256337252 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: i will do it in the liberal group deplores the continued failure by the eu which is dominating relations between almería and morocco. in return, it will instead turn it back towards its own people, he called for stability and growth pact in all public finances, and to refrain from any act of violence perpetrated by the islamist guerrilla groups appears to be quite as fascinating in terms of education, to make provision f < 1256337253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc there were some *not* starting in that < 1256337256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, really? < 1256337257 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: mr president, i have a third step forward and will contribute to safeguarding biodiversity. agricultural reform is, of course, these studies always have a budget line to do so. < 1256337264 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, right < 1256337264 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: madam president, we are of policy-making. an official debate will be held up in this way. < 1256337267 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: I AM THE PRESIDENT, YOU FOOL! < 1256337267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1256337268 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: madame president, i can assure you that, on this issue. the constitution is a challenge, the sustainable fnord policy challenge to which we have embarked upon a slippery slope. this could cause the value of and respect for human rights in egypt and, for instance, can also be reached unanimously. more important than another. but this tendency is not towards the elimination of the " area of freedom, security and defence po < 1256337269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is wrong < 1256337271 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: And I am a MAN! < 1256337272 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: mr president, taken together with our neighbour countries. we are leaving a margin of interpretation for which we shall likewise soon have on the coexistence of two conversion rates, in the world market for power generating equipment is ecu 3 billion a year, they have, and accepts the liberalization of direct mail would be impossible in view of the fact that europe pays, but is denouncing the wall because it does not nee < 1256337276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: THANK you. < 1256337277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1256337279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, :P < 1256337280 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: mr president, mr president, ladies and gentlemen, despite the budgetary aid granted, european regions are far from being undemocratic, any interinstitutional agreement is an opportunity to reflect on for tomorrow’s meeting. i think that, for all their drivers, whatever their age. < 1256337284 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's just like a real politician. < 1256337285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1256337285 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhhhhhhhhh < 1256337287 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm singular < 1256337289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not plural < 1256337291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1256337291 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl* ff7 fisher ic irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1256337294 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Mr President, Mr President, ladies and gentlemen" < 1256337294 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style c64 < 1256337295 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: c64 (C64 programming material) < 1256337299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, there? < 1256337299 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 100 for l 1 to the aec signal is < 1256337301 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love that too, ehird < 1256337302 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please welcome the President! < 1256337312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, oh well < 1256337313 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: when discussing large, even though you have plenty of bytes which make it easy to debug your program needs to check the sprite- foreground collision register, however, you may see thn terms low-byte, high-byte order or lsb ( least significant byte ( is it allowed to take advantage of this pin is normally < 1256337323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style ic < 1256337323 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: ic (INTERCAL manual) < 1256337326 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:08] AnMaster: after all it is "colour" so it would seem a natural spelling to use "troupes" < 1256337335 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1256337336 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah! I am rapidly becoming disillusioned with the non-American spellings! < 1256337339 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly for minimalist purposes. < 1256337346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm? < 1256337348 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, I might mention that I'm at this sort of an event: http://www.altparty.org/2009/ -- I guess it falls within the limits of possibility that someone else of the .fi people might as well. < 1256337349 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with Mark Twain < 1256337356 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that "though" should become "tho" < 1256337366 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :through to thru < 1256337366 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1256337366 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i.e., colour/color < 1256337372 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The only defence of the former is tradition < 1256337381 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's longer, and doesn't reflect the pronunciation better < 1256337384 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only defense for many things is tradition < 1256337388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah I would use colour except where part of a brand name (example: "colorsync") < 1256337390 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :social inertia < 1256337393 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yes, but why? < 1256337394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, ... < 1256337394 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because there is no way to pop the top of the characters `i', don't have some of the `m' by `ick'. < 1256337402 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly, an endonym! < 1256337457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, because I prefer UK English in general. US English sounds so bad. Thus a mental connotation is created (or something) < 1256337470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, "alternative" to what? < 1256337472 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does it sound bad? That's silly. < 1256337484 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, of course that is subjective < 1256337485 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye < 1256337486 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some American accents sound crappy, but the "generic American accent" is pretty unobjectionable, if uninteresting. < 1256337487 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Alternative to other demoparties, mostly. < 1256337490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, we're on IRC. :P < 1256337496 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer creating an idiolect < 1256337498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes that is true < 1256337505 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from cribbing from any number of dialects and languages < 1256337522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, anyway does endonyms and such apply if you are not a native speaker of English at all? < 1256337525 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use words like "gonna" :P < 1256337530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Um, yes? < 1256337533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do they not? < 1256337533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I learnt UK English in school < 1256337534 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, of course! < 1256337538 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it is hard to break the habit < 1256337540 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Endonym merely means "the name they call themselves". < 1256337542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I would want to < 1256337542 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1256337553 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :German's don't call themselves Germans < 1256337555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right. Not sure if the word colour has a name for itself ;P < 1256337561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ColorSync". < 1256337565 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1256337574 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I respect any group's self-given name < 1256337576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: German is different, thoughgh < 1256337580 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :out of common courtesy < 1256337581 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ColorSync is the same language < 1256337592 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but the German name for Germans isn't made for English < 1256337595 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah! but endonyms are specifically cross-language < 1256337596 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's wrong to use it in English < 1256337600 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how so? < 1256337607 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How not so? < 1256337613 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we can simulate the pronunciation using english letters < 1256337615 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is US and UK English the same language or separate ones? < 1256337617 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I think we would < 1256337618 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Their name for themselves is merely a word in their language. < 1256337622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Same. < 1256337633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The differences are trivial. < 1256337637 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1256337644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my point. Nice you agree < 1256337652 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, even that is subjective, the division between dialect and language < 1256337656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: So, why are you saying "German"? < 1256337668 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, everything is subjective, stating so to everything doesn't make you interesting < 1256337668 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I am ignorant of the German's name for themselves < 1256337672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, is UK and AU English the same languages? < 1256337675 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or same language < 1256337676 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: THAT'S OFFENSIVE < 1256337677 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather < 1256337681 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something like Deustchlander? < 1256337687 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Same language, but a larger dialectic difference. < 1256337691 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a good helping of slang. < 1256337695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yeah < 1256337745 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why wouldn't I want to use a group's name to refer to them? < 1256337770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: The Germans also talk about themselves in German < 1256337777 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and? < 1256337779 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why wouldn't you want to use a group's words to talk about them? < 1256337788 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it's a different language. < 1256337792 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha! < 1256337794 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh < 1256337799 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see where you're coming from < 1256337829 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about words that are, quite frankly, offensive? < 1256337834 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like using "Apache" < 1256337841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't consider words offensive < 1256337841 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :generally < 1256337844 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :their usage can be < 1256337857 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, their history < 1256337860 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://stali.suckless.org/ ;; sweet! < 1256337875 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if a group does not use a certain word to describe themselves, why should I use that word? < 1256337881 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it's easier for me? < 1256337886 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just seems spiteful to me < 1256337889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : like using "Apache" <-- yeah. LigHTTPd is way better < 1256337890 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because their word is a word in another language. < 1256337895 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Otherwise, yes, use their name. < 1256337897 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1256337901 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: How ironic. < 1256337904 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called lighttpd. < 1256337923 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah you noticed the joke :D < 1256337925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for once < 1256337934 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what are you, L'Académie française? < 1256337936 0 :Halph!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1256337942 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Well... it wasn't actually funny, or anything. < 1256337942 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: name with raspberry included < 1256337945 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you concerned about linguistic pollution? < 1256337952 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: >_< No < 1256337954 0 :Halph!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :coppro < 1256337957 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1256337972 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, hint: Use "and" at the start of sentences to annoy ehird < 1256337979 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :le pollution linguistique < 1256337982 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I only dislike that based on aesthetics, tbh. < 1256337983 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And just why would that annoy ehird? < 1256337988 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It reads awkwardly. < 1256337990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: except like that < 1256337993 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1256337996 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why can I not use Deustchlander, or whatever word those people use to refer to themselves? < 1256337997 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're not using and to connect two thingies, so it reads fine < 1256337999 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, indeed, < 1256338000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but otherwise it's awkward < 1256338004 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: I just covered this, keep up < 1256338007 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1256338041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:42] ehird: Oranjer: The Germans also talk about themselves in German < 1256338041 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:42] Oranjer: yes, and? < 1256338042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:42] ehird: why wouldn't you want to use a group's words to talk about them? < 1256338042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:43] ehird: Because it's a different language. < 1256338042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:43] Oranjer: haha! < 1256338042 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:43] Oranjer: ahhhh < 1256338044 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[22:43] Oranjer: I see where you're coming from < 1256338046 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bad joke:) Whenever I'm talking to somebody from Germany, I use the term "Douche-lander". I don't think they appreciate that. < 1256338051 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't care that it's another "language"--why would I? if I can pronounce the name in my own language, and I can simulate its pronunciation with my own written language, why not use it? < 1256338071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, XD < 1256338071 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: So, to answer what I said, < 1256338079 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why don't you use their words and grammatical structure to talk about them too? < 1256338087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your answer is likely "because I'm speaking in English, not in German". < 1256338092 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tradition, mostly < 1256338094 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aye < 1256338098 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Knowing the internal name of a group is much much easier than knowing their entire language. < 1256338098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I give the same reason as to why not to calk them Deauihdeiuashdwhateverlangers. < 1256338111 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can easily use English to simulate their name < 1256338116 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It's not a matter of knowledge, it's a matter of justification, here. < 1256338117 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: Why? < 1256338124 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not? common courtesy < 1256338125 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Yeah, I'm seeing that now. I can offer none. < 1256338143 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: You've merely asserted that. < 1256338148 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, this is boring. < 1256338177 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if I am part of a group of people, would I want a separate group of people to refer to my people with their word for "foreigner dipshits"? < 1256338204 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'tis why I use Roma instead of Gypsie, and Inuit instead of Eskimo < 1256338205 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, is *that* what "German" means? I never knew! < 1256338205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is boring < 1256338223 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: fail. < 1256338228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Inuit is as offensive as Eskimo, iirc. < 1256338230 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gregcookland.com/journal/uploaded_images/picHasselHoff-747711.jpg <-- Hasselhoff having sex with a dog. NSF-sanity. < 1256338234 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1256338236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, at least, not unoffensive. < 1256338242 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's loading < 1256338246 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did I click that < 1256338255 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I shall find the correct endonym! to google!!! < 1256338255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;_; < 1256338274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: Probably Qurntka'lr < 1256338276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ' is a click < 1256338282 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice, thanks < 1256338310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm lying < 1256338310 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :goddammit you < 1256338310 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have known < 1256338312 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most cold-region languages have no use for clicks < 1256338318 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:| < 1256338332 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just trying to show why doing this sort of thing is fruitless < 1256338339 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So how do they represent all the "teeth chattering" words, then? < 1256338350 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, ehird < 1256338351 0 :skylord5816!n=wishingw@unaffiliated/skylord5816 JOIN :#esoteric < 1256338357 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No universal replacement term for Eskimo, inclusive of all Inuit and Yupik people, is accepted across the geographical area inhabited by the Inuit and Yupik peoples. < 1256338358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow! A LORD of the SKY! < 1256338359 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1256338362 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1256338364 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi. < 1256338371 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do, you, like, MANAGE the SKY? < 1256338378 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION slaps a large trout around a bit with ehird
< 1256338383 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Well, it's just one of the at least 5816 such lords. < 1256338401 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I haven't bothered to group but are all me. < 1256338410 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a sky fiefdom? < 1256338410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, true. < 1256338410 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose they're probably a middle-manager. < 1256338410 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there a sky king? < 1256338410 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: A skyefdom? < 1256338410 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless someone stole one of them... < 1256338418 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Gregor, that's bad form, ha < 1256338421 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1256338424 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: so, 1999 called, it wants your nick back < 1256338425 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :STOP TEASING ME!!! < 1256338428 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1256338429 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1256338430 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1256338433 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jk < 1256338443 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I came here with a question about BrainF*** < 1256338451 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, cool < 1256338457 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shoot it out ya mouth < 1256338457 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh oh X-D < 1256338457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: have you been inducted into the magick order— < 1256338457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1256338460 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1256338461 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1256338461 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly i do not have to pretend that we're an esoterica channel < 1256338464 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to root you oout < 1256338466 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*out < 1256338469 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind me! < 1256338471 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(we get a lot of them) < 1256338504 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: Anyway, I've never heard of BrainF***, but I've heard of brainfuck. < 1256338509 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same. < 1256338512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816, hah. < 1256338519 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quick Oranjer! < 1256338521 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sic im! < 1256338531 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhhh < 1256338532 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's not using a wossname, entonym, wossname < 1256338542 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :antonym? < 1256338543 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, asshole! < 1256338546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, wait what are you pretending we is an eosterica channel instead this time? XD < 1256338548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy < 1256338551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: now now < 1256338554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was uncalled for < 1256338556 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :political correctness is no excuse for assholery! < 1256338558 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, ehird < 1256338560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1256338561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "we is an eosterica" < 1256338566 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: umm, dick < 1256338568 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall try to not be a cock to a stranger anymore < 1256338568 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, err are* < 1256338571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1256338572 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are ostriches, indeed < 1256338576 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: *esoterica < 1256338578 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816, keeping on topic seems hard today < 1256338583 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or was that oysters < 1256338584 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's say we have a [. Does the corresponding ] have to be called when the pointer is pointing to the same spot? e.g. is [<] acceptable? < 1256338587 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, I know that... < 1256338588 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in* < 1256338588 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is. < 1256338589 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too < 1256338591 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I apologize, skylord5816 < 1256338593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: It is acceptable. < 1256338594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1256338595 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's fine. < 1256338596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1256338599 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: There is no such restriction < 1256338602 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright. < 1256338619 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816, [<] is of course valid < 1256338620 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's your real question? < 1256338621 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[<] is even a not-uncommon idiom. < 1256338623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful for searching < 1256338627 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, exactly < 1256338634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is a common idiom even < 1256338639 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My other question (I sort of knew the first, but wasn't sure) is whether the zero check is evaluated at the [ or the ]/ < 1256338644 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.* < 1256338649 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ], right? < 1256338652 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, common's not uncommon. < 1256338657 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought that, not sure though < 1256338661 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both. < 1256338664 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256338665 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1256338671 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if the ] jumps to the [ and not one instruction after it, it can omit the check. < 1256338672 0 :adam_d!n=Adam@AAnnecy-751-1-20-18.w83-197.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1256338678 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that's less efficient. < 1256338680 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1256338685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1256338687 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1256338690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816, both. It corresponds to while(*ptr != 0) { ... } < 1256338690 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? is useless, tell me what you don't understand < 1256338695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816, assuming C < 1256338700 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Semantically, it's definable either way. It's usually implemented as both checking, but like they said you can always have the ] jump to the [, and have the [ peform the check. < 1256338718 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, Gregor < 1256338726 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the more ya think you know! < 1256338732 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, skylord5816 Gregor, but if the cell is 0 on *first entry* you should skip the entire loop < 1256338741 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1256338742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so well you have to check on [ < 1256338744 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, [ always needs a check. < 1256338748 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1256338755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NOT NECESSARILY < 1256338757 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make [ jump to the ], and have it check < 1256338760 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I get it < 1256338762 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: This is awful) < 1256338764 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tehthat works < 1256338764 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: OK, that could work :P < 1256338765 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if a[0] is 0, and a[1] is 1, and p is 0, would [>+] run? < 1256338767 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that* < 1256338773 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but yeah horrible < 1256338783 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: No. < 1256338789 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awful horrible stench of refuse < 1256338800 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most Apacheans may not like to be called Apache and rather call themselves by the term from their language (e.g. Inde "Apache, person" in Mescalero). < 1256338802 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's while (a[p]) {...}, not do { ...} while(a[p]) < 1256338813 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about if p is 1? would [<+] run? < 1256338816 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Apache, person" how racist! :P < 1256338825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: let me define the two commands < 1256338827 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1256338832 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ If the current cell is 0, jump past the corresponding ] < 1256338833 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1256338838 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright. < 1256338840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :] If the current cell is not 0, jump past the corresponding [ < 1256338849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also make ] be "Jump to the corresponding [" < 1256338853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that the [ runs next < 1256338855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's less efficient < 1256338862 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the [ then does the check) < 1256338872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816, see what Gregor said about the matching C construcrt < 1256338875 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :construct* < 1256338896 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so... [something] will run if the [ is non-zero and the ] is non-zero? < 1256338912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1256338912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1256338927 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get Gregor's example, it's been a while since I last messed around with C. < 1256338935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1256338945 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: It's a loop. < 1256338958 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1256338963 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: [something] just means "while the current cell is non-zero, run something" < 1256338969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's really simple. < 1256338973 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :current cell... < 1256338980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err yeah < 1256338980 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still don't get it, sorry. < 1256338981 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cell the pointer is on... < 1256338986 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That > and < move... < 1256338989 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And + and - change... < 1256338995 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1256338999 0 :fax!n=somebody@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1256339006 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So pretty much while (mem[pointer] != 0) { } < 1256339013 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He already said he doesn't kknowow C. < 1256339016 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*know < 1256339017 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1256339018 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1256339021 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Missed that < 1256339051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives up trying to explain in order to not confuse it even more
< 1256339057 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do, but I've not used it in a while. < 1256339065 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've never gotten one-line c. < 1256339072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, clearly you've forgotten it, so... < 1256339072 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1256339077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not really one-line, is it < 1256339122 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/d3b875729 < 1256339133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I do, but I've not used it in a while. <-- joke I presume? < 1256339140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1256339142 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would it be? < 1256339144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "while" < 1256339149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while loop above < 1256339152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1256339161 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope... the more I stay out of C the less I'm frustrated. < 1256339177 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("Any amount of C can be on one line, so \"one-line C\" is meaningless.\n"); < 1256339177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your tendency to make jokes without humour, AnMaster, has made you misdetect any old thing as a joke. < 1256339177 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any amount of C can be on one line, so "one-line C" is meaningless. < 1256339177 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Least you've got that right. < 1256339182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I actually found if funny < 1256339184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: That paste confuses me. < 1256339194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Any amount of C can be on one line, so "one-line C" is meaningless. < 1256339195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1256339199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Gregor < 1256339201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1256339211 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: not true < 1256339222 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minus the vagaries of CPP < 1256339230 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With its stupid '#' having to be the first non-whitespace on a line. < 1256339236 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yarly < 1256339249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 a".de":"dnI">:#,_@ < 1256339250 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1256339252 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But since you can always just include the headers inline instead of using CPP at all, who cares ;) < 1256339259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpp is so upsettingly crap < 1256339270 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :officially, you can't do so for standard headers < 1256339283 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was using AutoHotkey for the translation. < 1256339287 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Officially oshmishially. < 1256339292 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.autohotkey.com/docs/Tutorial.htm < 1256339298 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew, AutoHotkey. < 1256339310 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, nice program... bad language. < 1256339333 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright, in C. < 1256339338 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpppp: sed 's/#./\n/g' < 1256339351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include #. #include < 1256339369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*#\. < 1256339408 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: #define concat(a, b) a ## b < 1256339423 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 a"roge"20g"G">:#,_@ < 1256339423 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor < 1256339424 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define a ## b a ## b < 1256339426 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm scared — what does that let you achieve with CPP? < 1256339433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1256339441 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax, argh < 1256339443 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: concat(hello, world) becomes helloworld < 1256339444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, what is its relevance to what I said? < 1256339445 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARGH even < 1256339446 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: congratulations. You made a syntax error with cpp < 1256339452 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And? < 1256339454 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: And your sed script would break that. < 1256339458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, oh? nothing worse *phew* < 1256339465 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I corrected it to #\. < 1256339468 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's no small accomplishment! < 1256339474 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/d32c0e3b4 <- in BF, AHK, and C < 1256339479 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\\\n// < 1256339482 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, is it not? < 1256339490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816: That's not C. < 1256339496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's: < 1256339497 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Oh, I see. < 1256339506 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I thought it was doing a different thing entirely :P < 1256339506 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while (array[pointer] != 0) { < 1256339509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something < 1256339510 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1256339512 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, they don't come up often, because mostly CPP just tokenizes and ignores < 1256339533 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, #define foo(x( blah < 1256339535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is an example < 1256339540 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright... think I get it. < 1256339540 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a ( instead of ) < 1256339542 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks all! < 1256339551 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's one of the few places where it pays attention < 1256339552 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm making an IDE) < 1256339553 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell is that language < 1256339559 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which? < 1256339571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skylord5816, the middle one < 1256339572 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDE? < 1256339574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks horrible < 1256339597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The last one isn't C, so I wouldn't trust any of skylord5816's code... < 1256339597 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AHK < 1256339604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true < 1256339608 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I have rusty C. < 1256339613 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The middle one is AutoHotkey < 1256339614 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very much so < 1256339620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: AutoHotkey is a macro thing for Windows < 1256339626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Automate applications, etc < 1256339628 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much more so... < 1256339632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, eh... ok. Applescript style? < 1256339632 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1256339637 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Handy, but the language is pretty... typical. < 1256339641 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. < 1256339644 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Doesn't require application support. < 1256339647 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah ok < 1256339666 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots more than macros. < 1256339669 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well, since almost all Mac apps seems to have such support that is no issue on mac < 1256339680 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Less than I'd like. < 1256339688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what less? < 1256339699 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less apps or less support < 1256339700 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(almost all apps support it, but I don't think most apps give total control) < 1256339710 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah right < 1256339820 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boy, I hate Genuine Windows Validation bullshit < 1256339833 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :makes pirating so tough, eh? < 1256339843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep. < 1256339845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not really < 1256339846 0 :skylord5816!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1256339852 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My solution is to not use Windows. < 1256339853 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's booting into safe mode and running one executable < 1256339854 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohhh the horror < 1256339857 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm toying with a VM < 1256339863 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like a retarded dog in a box < 1256339872 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amusing, but ignorable < 1256339874 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a _virtual_ box* < 1256339881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly: FUCK PETA < 1256339883 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ha ha ha < 1256339900 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: anyway, even regardless of pirating, it perfectly demonstrates Microsoft's customer hostility. < 1256339956 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BOO! Activate Windows!" < 1256339958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crack time tyvm < 1256339972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: shit, I had to pirate my OWN LEGIT XP copy earlier < 1256339975 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I'd used my serial 5 times < 1256339977 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OHH THE HORROR < 1256339990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i downloaded an iso with a crack and said fuck it. < 1256340239 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1256340307 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1256340307 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now? < 1256340309 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is reverse yay < 1256340312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic < 1256340314 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!yay < 1256340315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deathly < 1256340315 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :magic < 1256340330 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what now, ehird? < 1256340340 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Poop, dood. Poop!" is a palindrome. < 1256340350 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer diplodromes < 1256340357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`define diplodrome < 1256340358 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1256340362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!define diplodrome < 1256340369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`12w3edtgyhujikolp;['] < 1256340369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: which is it < 1256340369 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1256340381 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1256340387 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's `define < 1256340390 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall provide a link < 1256340392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`define diplodrome < 1256340392 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1256340395 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: you make up words. < 1256340398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop tha < 1256340399 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/$/t/ < 1256340401 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "no output" just means that google define:diplodrome had no output :P < 1256340406 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.halfbakery.com/lr/idea/Kind_20Red_20Kindred_20%28The_20Diplodrome%29 < 1256340419 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not make up the word < 1256340490 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anagram stories are more fun! < 1256340496 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true, perhaps < 1256340509 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Anagrams of subsets permitted; pick a word, take all of them; they're your vocabulary.) < 1256340513 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Plus some common English words. < 1256340519 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1256340528 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Atoms molt the stoma moats of atoms." is a snippet from one I wrote a while back... < 1256340533 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's easy :P < 1256340534 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oohhh < 1256340544 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stencil has some? < 1256340555 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Polish shops ruin hips" or something like that < 1256340561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer: Stencil? < 1256340575 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard it had some anagrams, looking it up now < 1256340580 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the word stencil, I mean < 1256340593 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1256340598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember to include subsets < 1256340615 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e., cent counts < 1256340626 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, okay < 1256340630 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, it can't have been "Atoms molt the stoma moats of atoms.", that repeats atoms < 1256340635 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256340635 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you get the idea < 1256340711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf, the genuine advantage fails again? < 1256340714 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i applied the crack wrongly < 1256340719 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh < 1256340720 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1256340726 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cracking windows. < 1256340728 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1256340750 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh okay < 1256340759 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you are bewildered by everything :P < 1256340764 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep! < 1256340810 0 :FireFly[DS]!n=nds@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1256340841 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: With XP, a crack isn't enough to circumvent WGA < 1256340852 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Unless the cracks have advanced since I last checked) < 1256340857 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use muBlinder < 1256340861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear this worked normally last time < 1256340864 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright < 1256340865 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, "muBlinder"? < 1256340877 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what is the cause to say ? to that < 1256340881 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously it's another crack of some kind < 1256340895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the name < 1256340912 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It blinds WGA's validator < 1256340913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Presumably < 1256340930 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256340936 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Microsoft Update Blinder" < 1256340936 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol, I wonder if "javascript:void(window.g_sDisableWGACheck='all')" still works < 1256340947 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO it < 1256340947 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm still on creaky old Windows Update! < 1256340949 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt it < 1256340951 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Practically dinosauric < 1256340957 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same difference < 1256340960 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's all the same WGA < 1256340965 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yah < 1256341010 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah, doesn't work < 1256341013 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same thing if you just want to download some stuff from microsoft.com that's WGA-protected. < 1256341021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1256341033 0 :lament!n=lament@S0106001b63f462cc.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1256341041 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :para < 1256341042 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theo < 1256341043 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ana < 1256341044 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meta < 1256341047 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Also non-microsoft.com, to be pedantic < 1256341048 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: poopa < 1256341049 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystikhood!! < 1256341050 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :POOP < 1256341050 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zygo < 1256341055 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OF ERIS < 1256341058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zygohistomorphic < 1256341070 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prepromorphism < 1256341070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prepromorphisms! < 1256341073 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEAT YOU < 1256341074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, esr? < 1256341080 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: Not on my screen. :-P < 1256341089 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mystikhood of esr sounds eww < 1256341095 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ERIS < 1256341098 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And my screen is bigger than your screen so I win < 1256341101 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!!!!ESOTERIC!!!!!!!!!!! < 1256341107 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: BUT WILL IT BE? < 1256341115 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You realise that esr actually thinks some pagan god possesses him? < 1256341118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think during sex or something < 1256341125 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He has an awful page on his awful website about it < 1256341129 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is an awful man < 1256341131 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, no I wasn't aware of *that* < 1256341134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :urgh < 1256341151 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell? < 1256341156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: that mublinder site wants me to register ;_____; < 1256341168 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament? < 1256341170 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you? < 1256341173 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell? < 1256341175 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer? < 1256341183 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament is our friendly neighbourhood op. < 1256341185 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did you throw out affixes? < 1256341188 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, okay < 1256341191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, you need to activate mublinder ;P < 1256341198 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm an op, so I can do whatever I feel like. < 1256341198 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he is, to put it curtly, insane < 1256341204 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*bluntly < 1256341205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wossname. < 1256341206 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1256341213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: BAN ME < 1256341215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yet again) < 1256341218 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like insane ops, lament < 1256341222 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1256341222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BANBANBANBANBANBANBANBANBANME < 1256341224 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: bugmenot? < 1256341228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1256341232 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is lament insane? < 1256341233 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, do those bans cancel out? < 1256341233 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE < 1256341234 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never noticed < 1256341235 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yes < 1256341249 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o lament < 1256341250 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, do you know what the opposite of meta is? < 1256341250 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, there are a bunch of logins < 1256341252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why do you think he is insane? < 1256341252 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+b *!*n=ehird@212.183.134.* < 1256341255 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mesa! < 1256341256 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-o lament < 1256341266 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My work here is done. < 1256341266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well too late < 1256341267 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1256341269 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he can't answer < 1256341272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and fun < 1256341275 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awwwwwwww < 1256341299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, did you expect that? /msg < 1256341307 0 :lament!n=lament@S0106001b63f462cc.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1256341315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait, he is back already < 1256341319 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o lament < 1256341320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wb lifthrasiir < 1256341321 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1256341322 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament, < 1256341326 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1256341328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1256341330 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1256341332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not what I expected < 1256341333 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1256341338 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expected that < 1256341346 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oranjer, I expected unban < 1256341352 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1256341365 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did not expect Urban < 1256341368 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::O < 1256341373 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.okay < 1256341375 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1256341379 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :learn to read? < 1256341625 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO < 1256341627 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THANKS < 1256341631 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :COMRADE < 1256341638 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eeh? < 1256341644 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1256341652 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to go for a bit < 1256341667 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1256341674 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, ha? < 1256341684 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're going ta sleep? < 1256341688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Europe < 1256341707 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ahhh < 1256341708 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1256341712 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nighty-night < 1256341741 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am gone < 1256341760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for reference I dislike US-centric-ness < 1256341843 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I apologize, of course < 1256341861 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and I'm not here right now < 1256341876 0 :boily!n=boily@dsl-67-230-155-193.tor.primus.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1256342059 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1256342059 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic* irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1256342071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wo < 1256342072 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not found. < 1256342073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style wp < 1256342073 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: wp (1/256th of all Wikipedia "Talk:" namespace pages) < 1256342076 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hi < 1256342082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1256342117 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`befunge98 a"tognuf">:#,_@ < 1256342117 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1256342133 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`befunge98 a"tognuf">:#,_@ < 1256342134 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1256342135 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1256342136 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1256342159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`befunge98 a"toganuf">:#,_@ < 1256342160 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1256342166 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!befunge98 a"tognuf">:#,_@ < 1256342166 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1256342169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1256342177 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo fungot < 1256342178 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot < 1256342181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1256342197 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'echo an empty line < 1256342204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I think fungot died, it doesn't even respond to CTCP ping < 1256342206 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;( < 1256342212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly[DS], ` != ' < 1256342231 0 :FireFly[DS]!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1256342241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly[DS], try the right symbol :P < 1256342251 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1256342257 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, what? < 1256342258 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blame the font on the DS client < 1256342263 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They look the same there < 1256342265 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, replace font then < 1256342275 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's hard coded :P < 1256342282 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, so is your mom < 1256342290 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<.< < 1256342307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, what is that smiley? < 1256342318 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A >.> turned to the left < 1256342325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, and what is >.> then? < 1256342330 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_>, basicly < 1256342334 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm < 1256342339 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, which is? < 1256342341 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I have no ` at all on the DS < 1256342350 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION remembers -_- and >_< and some more
< 1256342355 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not >_> < 1256342366 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is "meh, bleh" < 1256342369 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1256342370 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh < 1256342377 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's hard to describe smileys < 1256342381 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FireFly, anyway lets see...