00:02:11 -!- snakbar has joined. 00:02:17 Hello 00:02:25 Hi. 00:02:52 hi 00:03:03 i have just written a bainfuck interpreter, but i'm not sure for it's complete working 00:03:18 could you give me some BF sources to test it? 00:03:58 ++++++++++++++++[.+] 00:04:07 that should print lots of different letters 00:04:29 yeah :D 00:04:44 this one seems to work 00:04:51 i found that one on internet 00:04:52 >++++++++++>+>+[ 00:04:52 [+++++[>++++++++<-]>.<++++++[>--------<-]+<<<]>.>>[ 00:04:52 [-]<[>+<-]>>[<<+>+>-]<[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<- 00:04:52 [>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>[-]>+>+<<<-[>+<-]]]]]]]]]]]+>>> 00:04:52 ]<<< 00:04:54 ] 00:04:59 what does that do? 00:05:01 http://esoteric.voxelperfect.net/wiki/Brainfuck#Examples has a couple 00:05:04 it is supposed to show the fibonacci numbers 00:05:19 not working with my interpreter 00:05:24 :( 00:05:27 why not 00:05:39 i have no idea 00:05:45 Whitespace issue? 00:05:57 in the source? 00:06:00 how can you possibly debug something like this? 00:06:05 this program is so complicated 00:06:05 haha 00:06:12 there must be another way to tackle it 00:06:25 how have you written the interpreter? 00:06:45 if you test it, i'll know if it's the code or my program the problem 00:06:45 ^bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>. 00:06:46 @ 00:06:55 snakbar: does that work? 00:07:00 i wrote it i c++ 00:07:20 is it long? 00:07:24 it show @ yes 00:07:31 not too long 00:07:41 then why don't you paste it to a website 00:07:45 snakbar: what if you insert some whitespace? 00:07:47 I want to see it 00:08:00 okay, w8 a minute i'll do it all ^^ 00:08:17 -!- immibis_ has joined. 00:08:29 whitespace no problem 00:08:39 -!- immibis has quit (Nick collision from services.). 00:08:41 -!- immibis_ has changed nick to immibis. 00:09:07 ^bf >+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>>>++++++++[<++++>-]<.>>>++++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<---.<<<<.+++.------.--------.>>+. 00:09:07 Hello World! 00:09:15 snakbar: and that one? 00:09:50 hello world is working 00:09:59 my only problem was with the code i gave you 00:10:08 hm think we need to test something with nested loops... 00:10:13 i don't know if it's supposed to work 00:10:32 can you give me a paste website, i can't find one right now 00:10:35 ? 00:10:41 pastebin.ca? 00:10:45 http://pastebin.ca/ 00:10:58 thank you 00:11:00 ^bf +[>+] 00:11:16 ^bf ((:)(:)) 00:11:31 ^bf +[.+] 00:11:31 .. !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>?@ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_`abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz{|}~€‚ƒ„…†‡ˆ‰Š‹ŒŽ‘’“”•–—˜™š›œžŸ ¡¢£¤¥¦§¨©ª«¬®¯°±²³´µ¶·¸¹º»¼½¾¿ÀÁÂÃÄÅÆÇÈÉÊËÌÍÎÏ ... 00:11:38 soupdragon: that's not brainfuck, do you mean ^ul ? 00:12:40 ^bf >++++++++++>+>+[[+++++[>++++++++<-]>.<++++++[>--------<-]+<<<]>.>>[[-]<[>+<-]>>[<<+>+>-]<[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>+<-[>[-]>+>+<<<-[>+<-]]]]]]]]]]]+>>>]<<<] 00:12:41 0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55.89.144.233.377.610.987.1597.2584.4181.6765.10946.17711.28657.46368.75025.121393.196418.317811.514229.832040.1346269.2178309.3524578.5702887.9227465.14930352.24157817.39088169.632459 ... 00:12:53 soupdragon: works in fungot 00:12:53 oerjan: but its a small city :) i like the lawyer stuff 00:13:01 er, snakbar 00:13:06 nice 00:13:20 I didn't realize it printed in decimal 00:13:53 hm... 00:14:27 -!- osaunders has quit ("Bye"). 00:14:43 ^bf ++++[++++>-<]>. 00:14:43 Á 00:15:00 oops 00:15:04 ^bf ++++[++++>+<]>. 00:15:04 ? 00:16:05 ^bf ++++++++[>++++++++<-]>-. 00:16:05 ? 00:16:07 sheesh 00:16:16 ^bf ++++++++++[>++++++++++<-]>-. 00:16:16 c 00:16:22 damn 00:16:28 I was hoping for more ?'s 00:16:30 do you want me to post it entirely compilable, or just the main functions ? 00:16:39 snakbar everything 00:16:43 lol okay 00:16:47 snakbar: does ++++[++++>+<]>. work for you? otherwise it could be a wrapping issue 00:16:48 I just want to glance at it 00:17:09 it has some diferent files ^^ 00:17:19 i put it on diferent pastes ? 00:17:46 oerjan > your code gives me one '?' 00:18:17 good 00:18:19 -!- MigoMipo has quit ("Quitter!"). 00:18:21 hm another thing 00:19:20 ^bf ++++++++[->++++++++<][>.<+]>. 00:19:20 @ 00:19:25 here is a first post, there are not ALL the files but every BF functions 00:19:26 http://pastebin.ca/1721881 00:19:33 snakbar: what does that give you? 00:19:40 it's written mostly in french sorry ^ ^ 00:20:05 gives a lot of @ 00:20:21 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 00:20:21 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 00:20:21 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 00:20:21 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ 00:20:24 snakbar: ah there we are. you are not skipping loops that start with 0 00:20:27 @ 00:20:56 easy mistake 00:20:59 when i enter a loop, if i'm 0 i should skip hmmmm 00:21:04 okayyyyy 00:23:21 i wonder if there's a test suite for brainfuck like there's mycology for befunge... 00:23:42 not much to test 00:23:54 implementations tend to be upfront about cell size and memory limits 00:24:15 well but for the basics 00:25:27 brainfuck is too easy 00:26:22 soupdragon: what do you think about my code? 00:26:40 it's easy to fix because it's well written 00:26:48 :D ^^ 00:28:40 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep"). 00:31:42 i'm trying to fix it right now 00:39:06 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote closed the connection). 01:36:35 here is my function now for the '[' sign in BF 01:36:36 http://pastebin.ca/1721941 01:36:52 doesn't work properly 01:36:58 the interpreter gets to crash 01:37:37 why not just use an integer? start with 1, increment for [, decrement for ], stop when it gets to 0 01:37:45 some code work, other don't 01:38:21 yeah why not, your right 01:39:26 snakbar this is complicated 01:39:36 too complicated for me :( 01:39:38 have an easy solution? 01:40:22 I don't know 01:40:45 maybe one would do a processing step when reading in the brainfuck program at first 01:41:02 turning every [ into a label that says where the corresponding ] is 01:44:36 okay 01:44:47 i think there's a simpler way 01:44:51 really? 01:45:28 the counter like immibis said looks simpler to me 01:45:33 i will try it tomirow 01:45:37 getting sleepy now 01:45:40 oh I didn't notice that 01:46:26 but the counter is the same method i used, a little diferent. so i think my method should work, must be an error somewhere 01:46:55 oerjan, http://nrkbeta.no/2009/12/18/bergensbanen-eng/ <-- wow 01:47:03 oerjan, did you watch it? 01:47:24 um no 01:47:33 oerjan, oh, not even any part? 01:47:52 how boring 01:48:13 wow!!!!!!!!!! 01:48:17 thanks for linking this 01:48:24 I thought it was 3D graphics at first 01:48:55 hey i'm norwegian, we're spoiled with scenery already >:) 01:49:05 so it fits on a DVD hmmmmmmmmmm 01:49:08 oerjan, meh 01:49:29 soupdragon, what would have been 3D graphics? 01:49:41 also: no it doesn't 01:49:46 also i don't watch tv, this is the first i hear about it becoming an internet phenomenon... 01:49:48 the picture on that page looked like 3D graphics 01:49:49 "The original file was 165 GB, too much for most people to download. We coded a 720 50P, 1280Ã—720 version, resulting in a 22 GB file." 01:49:57 no way THAT fits on a dvd 01:50:08 DVD are what 5 GB? 01:50:09 heck 22 GB is too much for me to download 01:50:28 soupdragon, 3.2 or so iirc? For single layer single sided 01:50:39 and burning dual layer just doesn't seem to work well in practise 01:50:46 bad burns and such 01:51:10 oerjan, what? internet phenomenonâ€½â€½ 01:51:11 why 01:51:15 because it is crazy? 01:51:38 AnMaster: well it said so on the page, more or less.. 01:51:44 ah 01:51:57 oerjan, yeah I got the link from an american 01:52:00 so I guess that is true 01:54:57 night â†’ 02:06:36 -!- ehirdiphone has joined. 02:06:41 http://notalwaysright.com/when-open-source-meets-closed-minds/3305 02:06:45 DEVIANT LINUX 02:07:58 epic 02:21:53 -!- adam_d has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 02:23:32 -!- ehirdiphone has quit ("Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info"). 03:08:15 -!- Asztal has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 03:38:38 -!- Pthing has quit (Remote closed the connection). 04:12:20 -!- alegend has quit (Remote closed the connection). 04:24:36 that's not fake at all. :| 04:24:38 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 04:30:16 -!- jpc has quit ("goshdarnit."). 04:30:26 -!- jpc has joined. 04:34:20 -!- soupdragon has quit ("* I'm too lame to read BitchX.doc *"). 04:45:13 -!- ehirdiphone has joined. 04:45:29 "you seem to think iâ€™m random, but iâ€™m only psuedorandom. you would be exactly this way, were you seeded at the very same time and place." â€”why the lucky stiff 04:46:45 hm wasn't that the guy who disappeared 04:46:59 Yes. Well, no. 04:47:16 He deleted himself from the Internet completely. 04:47:40 Specifically, the host human of _why killed _why. 04:48:22 That personality, those works, that *person*, is dead. And nobody knows why but him. 04:50:00 at least no one who is telling 04:50:17 It's sad, but what can you do. Most courts only accept the murder of someone with a physical body. 04:51:02 (note: yes, these are my real opinions on identityâ€”although I don't think it should count as murder :P) 04:52:52 mhm 04:52:57 I wonder what the smallest extension to the pi calculus is that makes it TC. 04:53:01 -!- ehirdiphone has quit (Remote closed the connection). 04:53:15 -!- ehirdiphone has joined. 04:53:20 Did you get that last message? 04:53:25 * oerjan didn't know the pi calculus wasn't TC 04:53:30 Ah. 04:53:43 It isn't by itself, I don't think. 04:53:49 Ask Wikipedia? 04:53:52 i thought it had an embedding of lambda calculus into it 04:54:07 No, I think that's am extension. 04:54:10 *an 04:54:22 Link me the WP page? 04:54:54 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_calculus#Turing_completeness 04:56:25 I wonder if you can implement a typed pi calculus in Haskell. 04:56:28 seems like it's TC 05:00:24 -!- ehirdiphone has quit ("Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info"). 05:11:39 -!- oerjan has quit ("leaving"). 05:21:04 O omniscient fungot, what is the best question I could ask you right now? 05:21:05 uorygl: if i knew of sisc? is there anything wrong with it? :) 05:21:33 O omniscient fungot, if i knew of sisc? is there anything wrong with it? 05:21:34 uorygl: but i don't think it's worth putting effort into optimizing keyword calls. every lambda's body is a shell, i think.... 05:22:34 Note to self: learn of sisc; don't try to optimize keyword calls; every lambda's body is a shell. 05:23:27 It would be neat if some future dude looked at these logs and figured that fung*t is actually omniscient and powerful. 05:23:43 As I'm sure has been said before. 05:29:16 fungot: Has it been said before? 05:29:17 pikhq: lua's popular because it's cheaper to buy a new house, and heal my computer with full u+ support" then :) 05:32:55 gn8 thanks for help 05:32:57 -!- snakbar has quit ("Quitte"). 06:00:44 fungot: are you omniscient and powerful? 06:00:45 immibis: ssh, don't tell me that i forgot to apply sunscreen on my ears, la la la i can't hear a fig? 06:00:59 fungot: you forgot to apply sunscreen on my ears 06:01:00 immibis: maybe i'll combine them fnord by keeping expressions and statements different things. fnord foo 1/ n fnord bar 1/ n fnord bar 1/! 06:01:13 * immibis wonders where the line before the previous one came form 06:01:14 from* 06:01:20 fungot: you do that. 06:01:21 immibis: an exception can be raised to the fnord 06:01:25 fungot: ah i see 06:01:27 immibis: hehe. btw, it's ruby code but it's chaotic neutral, in d&d terms. bear with me) up-from to in-sequence suggests the use of improper lists in this manner 06:01:52 fungot: please don't talk nonsense 06:03:31 anyone have a win32 binary rcfunge? 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13:10:36 -!- oerjan has joined. 13:22:57 -!- osaunders_ has joined. 13:29:53 -!- osaunders has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 13:29:53 -!- osaunders_ has changed nick to osaunders. 13:41:16 -!- Pthing has joined. 14:05:17 osaunders: cfunge is one 14:06:16 CCBI may be another, depending on what you mean by something being POSIX 15:16:14 -!- oerjan has quit ("Good night"). 15:41:15 Deewiant: Thank you. 15:43:17 Oh you wrote CCBI. 16:09:14 I did, yes. :-P 16:09:31 osaunders, and I wrote cfunge 16:23:02 Impressive. 16:37:49 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote closed the connection). 16:49:59 uhu 17:02:55 -!- jpc has joined. 17:03:44 -!- adam_d has joined. 17:05:12 -!- soupdragon has joined. 17:06:29 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 17:07:37 -!- osaunders_ has joined. 17:11:42 -!- soupdragon has quit ("* I'm too lame to read BitchX.doc *"). 17:12:08 -!- soupdragon has joined. 17:13:51 -!- osaunders has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 17:13:51 -!- osaunders_ has changed nick to osaunders. 18:42:08 -!- osaunders has quit. 19:34:07 -!- adam_d_ has joined. 19:43:36 -!- ehirdiphone has joined. 19:44:19 I guess I should send Mike Riley an email, instead of putting it off. 19:47:33 -!- ehirdiphone has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)). 19:47:37 -!- ehirdiphone has joined. 19:48:45 -!- ehirdiphone has quit (Client Quit). 19:53:28 -!- adam_d has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)). 19:57:50 -!- ehirdiphone has joined. 19:58:07 Sent and forwarded to AnMaster, in case he cares. 20:00:21 -!- ehirdiphone has quit (Client Quit). 20:00:54 hm 20:07:09 AnMaster: Did you reply to Mike yourself? 20:07:19 -!- ehirdiphone has joined. 20:07:21 AnMaster: Hmm. 20:07:47 Deewiant, no 20:07:51 ehirdiphone, hmm what? 20:07:55 I can't run mail client atm 20:08:01 ehirdiphone, that computer is running memtest 20:08:10 so at least 8 more hours 20:08:34 ehirdiphone, btw I'm probably planning to switch from gentoo on my current desktop. Or upgrade it's components 20:08:35 AnMaster: You said hm recently. 20:08:43 it is getting too slow nowdays 20:08:55 -!- ehirdiphone has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)). 20:08:58 can't keep up with the higher demands of new software 20:09:04 wow did that scare him that much? 20:09:06 ;P 20:09:06 -!- ehirdiphone has joined. 20:09:08 Deewiant: Do you want me to forward my email to you too? 20:09:39 ehirdiphone: Might as well, I suppose 20:09:45 Okay. 20:09:49 -!- ehirdiphone has quit (Client Quit). 20:10:24 -!- ehirdiphone has joined. 20:10:37 Deewiant: Sent to deewiant@iki.fi. 20:11:16 Cheers 20:11:29 AnMaster: From Gentoo to what? 20:11:46 ehirdiphone, not sure, probably arch for desktop 20:11:51 ehirdiphone, and it won't happen soon 20:11:56 becuase I have no time to do it 20:12:08 ehirdiphone, but since I'm planning to get a new harddrive anyway for it. probably then 20:12:26 SSD! SSD! 20:12:43 ehirdiphone, too expensive. Not enough space. Plus it would probably be faster than the system bus ;P 20:12:59 ehirdiphone, 500 GB SATA harddrive is what I will go for 20:13:01 or more 20:13:14 AnMaster: 160 GiB Intel SSD ~= $400 20:13:23 80 GiB = less 20:13:30 ehirdiphone, I can't live with 80 GB 20:13:33 I have 350 now 20:13:34 Adequate for a system drive. 20:13:37 and that is a bit cramped 20:13:58 well that's true 20:14:00 /home goes elsewhere 20:14:21 on the other hand, arch has fewer packages than gentoo 20:14:24 Also, 1 TB over 500 GB, no question. 20:14:40 ehirdiphone, yeah I guess we have to move with the time 20:14:43 Something like $30 more for twice the space. 20:14:49 *remembers ibook with 3.2 GB harddrive* 20:14:51 ehirdiphone: $400 for a drive is too expensive 20:15:04 what is it in SEK? 20:15:12 2908 20:15:19 hm yeah agreed 20:15:39 Deewiant: It's not a drive, it's a box that magically speeds up your computer more than most CPU upgrades. 20:15:59 And makes it quieter and more reliable. 20:16:15 It's all relative 20:16:24 To me, it's mostly a drive. :-P 20:16:32 Anyway, 80 GiB is more like $250 20:16:32 ehirdiphone, it doesn't because you still need the hard-drive for data 20:16:49 AnMaster: Nothing I said was false. 20:16:59 QuietER, not silent. 20:17:01 ehirdiphone, yes that it makes your computer quieter 20:17:11 ReliableER, not reliable. 20:17:22 more reliable I agree 20:17:28 AnMaster: Think about it. 20:17:30 ehirdiphone, but: since now it is ssd + harddrive instead of harddrive 20:17:39 you have the same noise + no noise 20:17:43 HD accessed less = less noise. 20:17:46 and x+0=x 20:17:50 ehirdiphone, hm okay 20:17:51 Pretty damn obvious. 20:17:59 A generation 2 Intel X25-M would be 205 â‚¬ here 20:18:03 ehirdiphone, but most accesses are from my data disk 20:18:05 in my experience 20:18:16 Finland has shite prices :P 20:18:25 AnMaster: Absolutely false. 20:18:27 Well, it's not far from your $250 20:18:34 That's $286 20:18:42 ehirdiphone, well, I just based it on stats from my own system 20:19:02 ehirdiphone: OSs put shit in RAM after the first access 20:19:05 using iostat 20:19:05 AnMaster: If all you do is manipulate ridiculously big RAW files, maybe. 20:19:18 Deewiant: I don't know Euros. 20:19:21 ehirdiphone, no, you mean 16-bit per channel tiff! 20:19:30 ehirdiphone, and HDR floating point encoded tiff 20:19:32 :D 20:19:45 Deewiant: Also, the stats are that SSDs speed up common tasks by quite a lot. 20:20:00 That's science for you. 20:20:00 ehirdiphone, such as compiling? 20:20:02 that is common for me 20:20:13 I don't know. 20:20:15 Compiling is mostly CPU-bound 20:20:16 ehirdiphone, I think what I buy should be based on my own usage stats :) 20:20:20 Deewiant, exactly 20:20:38 Anandtech or something tested it and they saw something like a 1% speedup with SSDs 20:20:38 Deewiant, unless it is g++ in which case it is also "more ram than you have"-bound 20:20:45 Compiling Linux, IIRC 20:20:56 Or maybe Firefox or something. 20:21:08 AnMaster: The majority of desktop tasks you perform are highly different in workings to common ones? 20:21:13 I find that unlikely. 20:21:23 dm-2 0.14 1.06 1.01 379858 361568 # this is /home 20:21:32 Nah, it was Pidgin 20:21:34 http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631&p=25 20:21:35 dm-3 0.17 0.73 0.01 260700 2308 # This is /usr 20:21:42 headers are: 20:21:44 Device: tps Blk_read/s Blk_wrtn/s Blk_read Blk_wrtn 20:21:55 And yeah, the difference was essentially zero for HDD vs SSD 20:22:01 oh and / is: 20:22:02 Pidgin uses monotone as their VCS. No joke. 20:22:03 dm-0 0.00 0.01 0.00 4458 40 20:22:06 which is even less 20:22:40 ehirdiphone, see my point? 20:22:47 -!- ehirdiphone has quit ("Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info"). 20:22:52 /boot just has 5 read and 1 write 20:23:30 (estimated, since it is based on taking all the dm-* on sda and the values for sda and checking difference) 20:23:34 http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3631&p=20 reminds me why I don't care about SSDs enough at their current price range 20:23:38 -!- Sgeo has joined. 20:24:10 He starts three resource-intensive programs after boot and sees an improvement of 24 seconds 20:25:09 Deewiant, well that is great. My boot time is around 35 seconds on my desktop 20:25:11 1) I don't do that 2) Even if I would, I don't care if it takes two minutes. I can busy myself in the already-instantly-enough-starting firefox/thunderbird for much longer than that. 20:25:15 so it would make it almost instant 20:25:26 and on my laptop it would BOOT BEFORE I PRESSED THE BUTTON 20:25:31 wow that is crazily fast 20:25:47 also slightly creepy 20:25:58 a computer being able to predict when I will turn it on 20:26:02 That wasn't about boot time, it was about program startup time. 20:26:13 Deewiant, don't ruin a good joke 20:26:21 Since when does Firefox start anywhere near instantly? 20:26:25 Deewiant, also firefox is slow to start 20:26:34 konqueror is near instant 20:26:51 On my Linux machine it's instantaneous enough for me. 20:27:08 Deewiant, arch? hm not readahead then by default 20:33:31 Booted into Linux; Thunderbird takes about 5 seconds to start, Firefox about 10. When typing the commands for the four or so programs I typically start right away, that's too fast - it interrupts my typing. 20:34:07 Deewiant, make a script to do it 20:34:15 and name it ~/s or so 20:34:40 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 20:34:42 No. I don't always start up the same things. 20:34:50 Deewiant, well okay ~/s 1 20:35:01 for first configuration and so on 20:35:04 if you have 9 or less 20:35:14 otherwise use base64 encoding of the number 20:35:29 ;P 20:35:38 I'd rather just type the stuff :-P 20:35:49 Deewiant, automation is good 20:35:59 It's just an O(1) improvement 20:36:58 -!- osaunders has joined. 20:37:30 Deewiant, per time yes 20:37:33 hm 20:37:42 well still a constant factor 20:38:03 Deewiant, you could want to start more instances every time? 20:38:07 and write a script to do it 20:38:16 of course that is rather contrived 20:38:17 No, I wouldn't 20:38:42 Deewiant, use the ackermann function to calculate number of instances of to start ;P 20:40:13 One instance is enough, and I already have it bound to a shortcut key so I don't really need any more help there :-P 20:41:14 "meh" 20:41:26 Exactly. :-P 20:42:09 Deewiant, no you can't use that comment here 20:42:12 it won't work 20:44:40 -!- adam_d_ has changed nick to adam_d. 20:50:49 -!- ehirdiphone has joined. 20:51:00 MIKE IS GOING TO KILL HIMSELF 20:51:12 AnMaster: Deewiant: forwarded 20:51:22 ehirdiphone, what? 20:51:33 Why am I always right about these things >_< 20:51:50 ehirdiphone, alas my mail client is now rebuilding so can't check right atm 20:51:56 Maybe you just have that effect on people :-P 20:52:05 Heh... 20:52:07 (yeah I said I was probably switching to arch, see!) 20:52:17 Deewiant, that is too nasty 20:52:35 Alright, sorry. 20:53:28 (wow, did I just take ehird in defence or something?) 20:54:10 ehirdiphone, so I finally went firefox 3.5 20:54:21 now I'm pissed off with it for the second time 20:54:32 It sure will be fun for his family and friends going through the shock and grief that will probably never fully go away. Unless he doesn't have any. 20:54:40 and why the heck is it ignoring my scroll wheel 20:54:48 In what way 20:54:51 ehirdiphone, try to contact them 20:54:53 (AnMaster:^) 20:55:09 Deewiant, actually it doesn't react to clicks either 20:55:17 what is the command to disable all extensions= 20:55:23 AnMaster: And what can they do? 20:55:23 -safemode or something 20:55:25 Run --help 20:55:30 Deewiant, let see. 20:55:33 He needs professional help. 20:55:40 ehirdiphone, they can help him get that 20:55:42 -!- adam_d_ has joined. 20:55:53 Only if he consents. 20:56:02