: "π" U03C0 # GREEK SMALL LETTER PI < 1263326081 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's all < 1263326083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Replace the first line with include "%L" < 1263326086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That way it's portable across locales < 1263326091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also shorter, and less path-dependent < 1263326093 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, okay, but ignoring that? < 1263326101 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since other compose combos works < 1263326102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :work* < 1263326104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :

: "π" U03C0 # GREEK SMALL LETTER PI < 1263326109 0 :Phantom_Hoover!n=chatzill@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1263326109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you save it in ~/.XCompose? < 1263326112 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1263326121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, that is the file < 1263326136 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No clue < 1263326139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ cat ~/.XCompose < 1263326139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :include "%L" < 1263326139 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :

: "π" U03C0 # GREEK SMALL LETTER PI < 1263326140 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Try a full reboot :P < 1263326142 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what the file reads at < 1263326144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as* < 1263326150 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe that path doesn't exist < 1263326151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I did that, unintentionally < 1263326155 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that's unlikely, I guess < 1263326162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But maybe "%L" will work and your old version won't < 1263326164 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So try restarting X now < 1263326169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the full reboot was forced due to hardware lockup < 1263326180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when plugging in an usb device < 1263326184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :second time in a few weeks < 1263326187 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and different usb devices < 1263326195 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-156-99-102.range86-156.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1263326196 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe the mobo is getting glitchy < 1263326202 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, even sysrq was *dead* < 1263326228 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow. < 1263326236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not just use your laptop and hook it up to your display/keyboard/mouse? < 1263326247 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sysrq key? < 1263326254 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alt+SysRq. < 1263326256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linux magic key. < 1263326260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lets you talk directly to the kernel. < 1263326262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, becuase laptop is unable to get the resolution of the of the monitor < 1263326267 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can do widescreen high res < 1263326271 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only lower res for 4:3 < 1263326274 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alt+SysRq+{R,E,I,S,U,B} does a soft reboot even if your keyboard isn't being listened to by X11. < 1263326274 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't ask me why < 1263326276 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't seem to have that... I feel inadequate. < 1263326281 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it just refuses to handle 1400x1050 < 1263326284 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's the Print Screen key. < 1263326285 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1263326289 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also, the harddrive is smaller in it < 1263326311 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Buy a hard drive enclosure and extract the disk from the desktop < 1263326312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and the sound is worse than my sb live 5.1 in my desktop < 1263326322 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh < 1263326345 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and there is the issue of the nvidia geforce 7600 card. Anyway I guess I will have to get a new (quieter) desktop soon < 1263326364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I don't believe you can get a new mobo with this socket any more < 1263326583 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what do you call percent humdity as in the air < 1263326586 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1263326591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :humidity < 1263326593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the thing you measure with that unit < 1263326594 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30% humidity < 1263326594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1263326607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 11% indoors is horribly dry btw < 1263326614 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misread somehow " I don't believe in humidity". < 1263326634 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, tell me what the hamming distance is for that one < 1263326668 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not sure what the source was. I guess it must be a combination of the "don't believe" from one line and "humdity" (hum-ditty?) from the next. < 1263326670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a mangling of two lines. < 1263326683 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cue oklofok; "i don't believe in humidity". < 1263326695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :humidity* < 1263326697 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who? < 1263326731 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, who what? < 1263326748 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who oklofok? < 1263326753 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: … < 1263326755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GTFO :| < 1263326765 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why...? < 1263326770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn newbs, not knowing who oklofok is 'n shizz :P < 1263326821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh Phantom_Hoover is new here < 1263326834 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, look in the output of /names < 1263326835 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that oklofok < 1263326915 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor-L: The Go problem might not actually exist, since I think BF Joust's ultra-shared-memory architecture is disagreeing with Go's message-passing :P < 1263327018 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1263327049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, "go problem"? < 1263327051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hi there < 1263327072 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi AnMaster < 1263327080 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Go as in Go the language. < 1263327260 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd write it in Haskell, but that sounds horrible. :) < 1263327549 0 :Gregor-L!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1263327729 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, yes < 1263327735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, but why is Go a problem? < 1263327755 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no debian packages, and gregor hates go so him installing it is unlikely :) < 1263327760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1263327761 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(without an easy package) < 1263327770 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not all that unlikely but ehh < 1263327798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I'll install it when I need an app that wants to use go < 1263327808 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to remember what = vs := does
< 1263327821 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, compare vs assign (pascal) < 1263327827 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: if you just want to test joust warriors without spamming the hill you could just download a binary < 1263327833 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is if you trust binaries me or gregor made < 1263327836 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "compare"? < 1263327838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in make < 1263327839 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1263327839 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I don't < 1263327844 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, oh I told you that above < 1263327854 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, the first doesn't evaluate the value at assignment < 1263327856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :such that < 1263327861 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i recall something vaguely similar… yesterday < 1263327866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CFLAGS = $(SET_LATER) < 1263327870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SET_LATER = -O2 < 1263327870 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ok, so it should be CC = gcc, not CC := gcc? :P < 1263327877 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :means that CFLAGS expands to -O2 < 1263327889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, in that case it wouldn't make any difference < 1263327899 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well a bit of difference < 1263327906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, with overriding CC on command line < 1263327916 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc it won't work for the latter < 1263327922 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not completely sure about that < 1263327935 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how bad it is to do #include "lance.c" in main.c to avoid writing an .h
< 1263327936 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, since you probably want make CC=icc to work, the former < 1263327939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :methinks "very bad" < 1263327947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, depends on your goals < 1263327974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: what should I do if I want CFLAGS=foo make to append my cflags to foo, but make CFLAGS=foo to override them entirely? < 1263327979 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CFLAGS +:=? :P < 1263327992 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I have no clue < 1263327999 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll just do = < 1263328008 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lamers who want their own cflags can do make CFLAGS=… < 1263328010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, += would append for both < 1263328019 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah which sucks < 1263328021 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't want that < 1263328028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also isn't := gnu specific < 1263328031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't care < 1263328037 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc autotools screams about it if you use it < 1263328041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is funny < 1263328049 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing I don't use autotools < 1263328071 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well the funny thing is that GNU automake tells you not to use gnu make specific syntax < 1263328119 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust x . < 1263328135 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you loose if program ended? < 1263328137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot < 1263328137 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for AnMaster_x: 7.8 < 1263328163 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't recall < 1263328181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust x (+)*999999999999999999999999999999999 < 1263328189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate how gmake's default rules do < 1263328193 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$(CFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) ... < 1263328195 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for AnMaster_x: 7.8 < 1263328195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that you get tons of spaces < 1263328200 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, why? < 1263328205 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it irritates me < 1263328206 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a single space between them < 1263328211 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in your paste < 1263328213 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@meson:~/src/lance$ make < 1263328214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cc -O3 -c -o lance.o lance.c < 1263328216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cc -O3 -c -o main.o main.c < 1263328218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1263328220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$(CFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) $(LDFLAGS) < 1263328220 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is a tab < 1263328221 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but < 1263328221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1263328224 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I only use cflags... < 1263328224 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : $(CFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) ... < 1263328227 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it isn't a tab < 1263328228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a singe space ther < 1263328229 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1263328229 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a space < 1263328232 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1263328234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spaces < 1263328243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well any -I and -D should be CPPFLAGS < 1263328249 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, I know < 1263328251 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but all I do is -g or -O3 < 1263328254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any -Wl, or -l or -L should be LDFLAGS < 1263328256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depending on if DEBUG is set < 1263328261 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, so you want to break it for everyone else < 1263328266 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it could just do < 1263328272 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$(if foo, spacefoo) < 1263328273 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever < 1263328275 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1263328283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, would be messy < 1263328283 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also < 1263328286 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nobody uses the default rules anyway precisely because of all the spaces < 1263328286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just do: make -s < 1263328288 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1263328293 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that removes helpful output < 1263328297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I use the default rules < 1263328299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact < 1263328304 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you don't, you use cmake < 1263328312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, not always < 1263328317 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on how large the project is < 1263328325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sometimes use a simple: < 1263328334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all: foo bar < 1263328337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clean: < 1263328342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ... < 1263328347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot .PHONY < 1263328349 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.PHONEY: all clean < 1263328351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, -O2 < 1263328352 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*PHONY < 1263328354 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, "all"? < 1263328357 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't you mean "executablename" < 1263328361 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well there were two names there < 1263328373 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, and that is enough with the implicit rules < 1263328380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not if any program has more than one file < 1263328383 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, true < 1263328388 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I said for simple projects < 1263328398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol if i do < 1263328401 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lance: main.o < 1263328404 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cc -O3 -c -o main.o main.c < 1263328405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cc -O3 lance.c main.o -o lance < 1263328411 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, XD < 1263328427 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lance: lance.o main.o works though < 1263328429 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, do lance: lance.o main.o < 1263328431 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1263328434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1263328440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gmake should be able to automatically create a clean :( < 1263328462 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly the solution is for me to write Yet Another Makefile Generator :D < 1263328474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, also I use makefiles for stuff like: *.dia -> *.svg -> *.pdf < 1263328487 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or *.dot for that matter < 1263328502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*.pdf for embedding in pdftex output < 1263328523 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what make is designed for < 1263328524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can embed pdf in pdf, unlike most other formats < 1263328527 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, indeed < 1263328530 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :automating file transformation < 1263328549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realises he doesn't actually need clean, axes it
< 1263328554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, C -> executable is also such a transformation < 1263328557 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1263328560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I find clean useful if I change the Makefile < 1263328563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can do < 1263328571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lance: lance.o main.o Makefile < 1263328572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1263328585 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i guess < 1263328587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erhm no < 1263328594 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lance.o wouldn't depend on Makfile there < 1263328599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Makefile* < 1263328603 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :%.o: Makefile < 1263328607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good point < 1263328622 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also rm *.o works quite well :P < 1263328639 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, rm *.o lance you mean < 1263328641 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CFLAGS = -O3 < 1263328643 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lance: lance.o main.o < 1263328645 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there that's nice and small < 1263328646 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well yes < 1263328656 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(debug compile: make CFLAGS=-g :P) < 1263328670 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1263328673 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using Emacs < 1263328685 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :c-mode has the worst indentation defaults ever < 1263328686 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :halp < 1263328695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, sec < 1263328709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I suspect ais likes the defaults ;P < 1263328710 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lance: lance.o main.o < 1263328711 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lance.o main.o: lance.h < 1263328713 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope this works < 1263328730 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: no, he uses mixed tabs and spaces, 2-space indent, and this brace style: < 1263328731 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :void f(){ < 1263328733 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...; < 1263328735 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ...;} < 1263328737 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-*- mode: C; coding: utf-8; tab-width: 4; indent-tabs-mode: t; c-basic-offset: 4 -*- < 1263328739 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(really) < 1263328743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, there is a modline for you < 1263328749 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'd prefer to just set it in my .emacs rather than clutter my files < 1263328757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh < 1263328783 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it go again < 1263328787 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :add-hook 'c-mode-hook < 1263328797 0 :Azstal!n=asztal@host86-163-47-40.range86-163.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1263328798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(custom-set-variables < 1263328798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : '(standard-indent 4) < 1263328798 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : '(tab-width 4)) < 1263328802 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck custom < 1263328812 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I want it only for C < 1263328819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, meh < 1263328840 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, one you might like: < 1263328840 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(c-set-style 'k&r) < 1263328842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(setq inhibit-startup-message t) < 1263328843 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it "k&r" < 1263328845 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the latter < 1263328847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: old hat, of course I have that < 1263328853 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, good < 1263328866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and (blink-cursor-mode -1) and (tool-bar-mode -1) and (menu-bar-mode -1) < 1263328876 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the long snippet to move #foo# and foo~ files out of the way < 1263328904 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, I like my *~ < 1263328948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't. < 1263328966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(add-hook 'c-mode-hook < 1263328968 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (lambda () < 1263328969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (setq indent-tabs-mode t) < 1263328971 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (c-set-style "k&r"))) < 1263328972 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, that uses tabs. < 1263328974 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION untabify
< 1263329002 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh sweet < 1263329009 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C-x C-f ~/src/lance/*.c works < 1263329031 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, my c-mode-hook didn't work < 1263329051 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and k&r still uses dumbfuck 5-space indentation < 1263329097 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And two idents would be 1 tab and 2 spaces? < 1263329104 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :believe so < 1263329114 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :emacs' way of thinking about tabs/spaces is pretty stupid < 1263329158 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries c-set-style linux
< 1263329174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Much better. < 1263329175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, anything wrong with tabs? < 1263329184 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :??? < 1263329194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Oops, that uses tabs. < 1263329202 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In elisp, yes. < 1263329207 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you don't always indent by a fixed amount. < 1263329214 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, well yes < 1263329214 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You align, and lambda gets two spaces, but < 1263329216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(f < 1263329217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : x) < 1263329219 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gets one < 1263329220 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1263329222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus, tabs are retarderated. < 1263329225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I thought that was in C? < 1263329237 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:42] (add-hook 'c-mode-hook < 1263329238 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:42] (lambda () < 1263329240 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:42] (setq indent-tabs-mode t) < 1263329241 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:42] (c-set-style "k&r"))) < 1263329242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1263329243 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[20:42] Oops, that uses tabs. < 1263329244 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read closer. < 1263329297 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually it didn't look like that here < 1263329302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (add-hook 'c-mode-hook < 1263329302 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (lambda () < 1263329303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :vs. < 1263329307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [20:42] (add-hook 'c-mode-hook < 1263329307 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [20:42] (lambda () < 1263329312 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, Konversation erased them on paste or something. < 1263329324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1263329335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehh, c-mode's electric mode is rubbish. < 1263329341 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't add spaces after commas or anything. < 1263329348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what was that electric mode, I don't remember < 1263329354 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C is a language I use µemacs for < 1263329356 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(){ < 1263329358 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ < 1263329359 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main() < 1263329361 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ < 1263329362 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :automatically < 1263329364 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just by typing { < 1263329365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO! < 1263329367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main() { < 1263329369 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be nice, if it worked. < 1263329372 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact < 1263329376 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(void) { < 1263329380 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: that's pointless, it gets changed automatically you idiot < 1263329380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the only True Way < 1263329383 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what electric-mode does < 1263329387 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, right < 1263329392 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you cannot call _anything_ that K&R did not do the True Way < 1263329393 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1263329408 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, come the fuck on, Unix was the first C software < 1263329410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, True Way by Committee! < 1263329412 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ANYTHING is the true way it's what it did < 1263329423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: actually very few corporate things are written like that < 1263329428 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly they use Allman style, is my impression < 1263329621 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :allman? < 1263329633 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google it. < 1263329715 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Connection timed out < 1263329738 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host86-160-121-160.range86-160.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1263329757 0 :augur!n=augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1263329758 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, Emacs is not nearly hyper enough. < 1263329765 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is AnMaster turning into me? < 1263329854 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1263329858 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1263329865 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, AnMaster has never googled for things. < 1263329942 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People are dropping left and right... < 1263329990 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION drops
< 1263329998 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: who are you, anyway? < 1263330000 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :witch! < 1263330015 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :New Now Know How sounds familiar < 1263330020 0 :Asztal!n=asztal@host81-129-119-251.range81-129.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1263330031 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1263330055 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nm < 1263330083 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i must be turning into ehird, i googled it. < 1263330089 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: I'm just zis guy, you know? < 1263330094 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chatzilla default message :P < 1263330097 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1263330109 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: right right. wait, you're not the guy who made Esme, are you? just checking. < 1263330114 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esme? < 1263330118 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good < 1263330123 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the worst esolang ever created < 1263330132 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Esme < 1263330137 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it can even be considered a language < 1263330141 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meaningless as it is < 1263330173 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" This article is a stub, which means that it is not detailed enough and needs to be expanded. Please help us by adding some more information." now now, I don't think that page needs expanding at *all* < 1263330199 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What the hell does it do? < 1263330211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXACTLY < 1263330212 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We don't know < 1263330216 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure he's just a troll < 1263330222 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it's amazing how... informationless... he made it < 1263330234 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You literally cannot infer a single thing from the page < 1263330263 0 :Azstal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Success < 1263330278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet, installing manpages-posix-dev makes `man foo.h` work. < 1263330292 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hashes makes little more sense... < 1263330364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, rosegarden depends on kdialog for export/import < 1263330367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is just crazy < 1263330443 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh, i hate getopt_long's api < 1263330527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION just writes a manual loop rather than futz with it
< 1263330554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, don't use getopt_long < 1263330556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use getopt < 1263330561 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No; I want long options. < 1263330563 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's more portable < 1263330566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fine < 1263330568 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't give a fuck. < 1263330591 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, I wish there was an option parser that also did argument parsing. < 1263330597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be nice. < 1263330679 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems like http://argtable.sf.net/ does that, but I don't like the syntax. < 1263330804 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, that soundfont was indeed good < 1263330813 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"BUT NOT ANY MORE!" < 1263330828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :har < 1263330838 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, you could have things like: < 1263330849 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OPTION(name) < 1263330855 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that did __typeof__(name), say char * < 1263330859 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to infer what kind of argument it is < 1263330866 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*does < 1263330868 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and generates --name < 1263330872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, gcc has it's own language just to describe command line options iirc < 1263330913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps if it did the declaration too < 1263330921 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FLAG(int, verbose) < 1263330924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OPTION(char *, name) < 1263330930 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OPTION_DEFAULT(char *, name, "fred") < 1263330996 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This paper presents a method for creating formally correct just-in-time (JIT) compilers < 1263330998 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah < 1263331009 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1263331014 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, it could even let you pass a function as the third argument to OPTION_DEFAULT. < 1263331022 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, wait < 1263331026 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :types are post-cpp, darn < 1263331064 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, know any way to load more than one sound font at once into sb live cards? < 1263331077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, so I can get non-piano from another soundfont < 1263331112 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1263331315 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh too little ram to load both at once < 1263331805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God I hate C's string handling. < 1263331847 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even writing (dirname(argv[0]) ~ "/hill"), where ~ = string concatenation, is a pain in the arse! < 1263331893 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do the basename, strlen it, add strlen("/hill") to it, allocate a new string, strcpy them in. < 1263331894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FML < 1263332054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FML? < 1263332059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck My Life < 1263332066 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, in other languages, writing the command-line interface is nice relaxing busywork before tackling the real problems < 1263332066 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thought it was "language" < 1263332070 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in C it's the opposite! < 1263332072 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: also that XD < 1263332087 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(int argc, char *argv[]) < 1263332088 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ < 1263332090 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : return 0; < 1263332091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1263332093 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that will do for now < 1263332098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what does the app do? < 1263332106 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BF Joust < 1263332113 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sieve and Kettle are back! Polarity FUCK YEAH! < 1263332134 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why are you doing dirname(argv[0]) ~ "/hill" < 1263332144 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, 1) argv[0] may or may not contain the path < 1263332159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) whats wrong with current working directory < 1263332169 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) bah, you're right < 1263332174 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) because that isn't what i want < 1263332192 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lance prog" battles prog against the entire hill; you can set that with --hill < 1263332198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) of course I'm right < 1263332199 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but by default it's that directory < 1263332211 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"lance prog1 prog2" battles the two, and ignores the hill, so it doesn't matter there < 1263332217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess lance prog1 prog2 prog3... will work too < 1263332256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, if you are linux specific: < 1263332276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'll do Go but ignore the concurrency part < 1263332282 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has string concatenation! < 1263332286 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/proc/self/exe < 1263332293 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1263332305 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: lol. < 1263332306 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1263332306 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1263332308 0 :soupdragon!n=somebody@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1263332314 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, hm? < 1263332325 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: because the code to open and read that file will be *even bigger* < 1263332401 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1263332402 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1263332417 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help userinterps < 1263332417 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :userinterps: Users can add interpreters written in any of the languages in !help languages. See !help addinterp, delinterp, show | !userinterps. List interpreters added with !addinterp. < 1263332418 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, it's a symlink < 1263332438 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: x_x < 1263332438 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!userinterps < 1263332438 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Installed user interpreters: aol austro b1ff bc bct bfbignum brit brooklyn bypass_ignore chef chiqrsx9p choo cockney ctcp dc drawl dubya echo eehird ehird fudd funetak google graph gregor hello id jethro kraut num ook pansy pirate plot postmodern postmodern_aoler redneck reverse rot13 sadbf sfedeesh sffedeesh sffffedeesh sffffffffedeesh slashes svedeesh swedish valspeak warez yodawg < 1263332440 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crazy < 1263332446 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what? < 1263332454 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, okay, not crazy. < 1263332467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I believe you can use stat() < 1263332468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should write yet another string library for C. You know, because I hate myself :P < 1263332474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: readlink(), rather < 1263332495 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ah yes that is it < 1263332500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stat(1) does it iirc < 1263332536 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1263332536 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1263332540 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!info < 1263332540 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot is a bot for running programs in esoteric programming languages. If you'd like to add support for your language to EgoBot, check out the source via mercurial at https://codu.org/projects/egobot/hg/ . Cheers and patches (preferably hg bundles) can be sent to Richards@codu.org , PayPal donations can be sent to AKAQuinn@hotmail.com , complaints can be sent to /dev/null < 1263332546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readlink("/proc/self/exe", "/", 1) = 1 < 1263332546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readlink("/proc/self/exe", "/u", 2) = 2 < 1263332546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readlink("/proc/self/exe", "/usr", 4) = 4 < 1263332546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readlink("/proc/self/exe", "/usr/bin", 8) = 8 < 1263332546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :readlink("/proc/self/exe", "/usr/bin/stat", 16) = 13 < 1263332550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how inefficient < 1263332636 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also it doesn't null terminate < 1263332643 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help help < 1263332643 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1263332651 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help interp < 1263332651 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I have no help for interp! < 1263332657 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help bf < 1263332657 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, I have no help for bf! < 1263332676 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!languages < 1263332695 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help userinterps < 1263332695 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :userinterps: Users can add interpreters written in any of the languages in !help languages. See !help addinterp, delinterp, show | !userinterps. List interpreters added with !addinterp. < 1263332699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help languages < 1263332700 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :languages: Esoteric: 1l 2l adjust asm axo bch befunge befunge98 bf bf8 bf16 bf32 boolfuck cintercal clcintercal dimensifuck glass glypho haskell kipple lambda lazyk linguine malbolge pbrain perl qbf rail rhotor sadol sceql trigger udage01 underload unlambda whirl. Competitive: bfjoust fyb. Other: asm c cxx forth sh. < 1263332713 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lazyk < 1263332715 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't fork sub-program. < 1263332722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you need to give it code < 1263332761 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, but the cat program in Lazy K is an empty file. < 1263332776 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, hm report a bug to Gregor < 1263332781 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or use the url variant < 1263332787 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to link to an empty file < 1263332821 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh cat /dev/null >butt < 1263332821 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.11852: line 1: butt: Permission denied < 1263332823 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh cat butt < 1263332824 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/bin/cat: butt: No such file or directory < 1263332825 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dammit < 1263332828 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh cat /dev/null | lazyk < 1263332829 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.11907: line 1: lazyk: command not found < 1263332830 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aw < 1263332840 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls < 1263332841 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps < 1263332847 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls .. < 1263332847 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multibot_cmds < 1263332848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo "try this" < 1263332848 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"try this" < 1263332852 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, ^ < 1263332871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh pwd < 1263332871 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/home/egobot/egobot.hg/multibot_cmds < 1263332880 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls ~ < 1263332881 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot.hg < 1263332885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls / < 1263332885 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin < 1263332904 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls / | tr -d $'\n' < 1263332905 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bindevetchomeliblib64proctmpusr < 1263332905 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ego != Hack < 1263332910 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls / | tr $'\n' ' ' < 1263332911 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bin dev etc home lib lib64 proc tmp usr < 1263332913 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls < 1263332913 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps < 1263332916 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps < 1263332917 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l < 1263332920 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls | tr $'\n' ' ' < 1263332921 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps lib slox < 1263332925 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/lazyk < 1263332926 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls ~ | tr $'\n' ' ' < 1263332927 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :USED_VERSION < 1263332927 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :egobot.hg < 1263332938 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/lazyk | tr $'\n' ' ' < 1263332939 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh interps/lazyk/lazy < 1263332939 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :USED_VERSION lazy lazy.cpp primes.lazy < 1263332948 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh interps/lazyk/lazy --help | tr $'\n' ' ' < 1263332949 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usage: lazy [-b] { -e program | program-file.lazy } * -b puts stdin and stdout into binary mode on systems that care (i.e. Windows) -e program takes program code from the command line (like Perl's -e switch) program-file.lazy name of file containing program code If more than one -e or filename argument is given, the programs will be combined by functional composition (but in Unix pipe order, < 1263332949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, note it gives you only one line < 1263332955 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1263332956 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lazyk < 1263332956 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't fork sub-program. < 1263332957 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`k``s``si`k``s`k```sii``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk``s``s`ksk```s``siii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s``s`ksk```s``s`kski``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk```sii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k```sii``s``s`kski```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k```sii``s``s`kski```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k````s``s`ksk```s``siii``s``s` < 1263332958 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh interps/lazyk/lazy -e '' | tr $'\n' ' ' < 1263332958 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1263332959 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kski`s``s`ksk```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k``s``s`kski```s``siii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski < 1263332961 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk```s``siii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k```sii``s``s`kski```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k```s``s`kski``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk```sii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski```s` < 1263332962 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1263332962 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`siii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk```sii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k```sii```sii``s``s`kski`k```sii```sii``s``s`kski < 1263332963 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1263332964 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: sigh. < 1263332966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noobs. < 1263332967 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pastebin.ca < 1263332969 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use it < 1263332973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then !lazyk url < 1263332978 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :siisii! < 1263332993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon, :D < 1263333026 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lazyk http://pastebin.ca/1748851 < 1263333028 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't fork sub-program. < 1263333041 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Reboot" < 1263333063 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you must link to the raw version < 1263333077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!lazyk http://pastebin.ca/raw/1748851 < 1263333078 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Couldn't fork sub-program. < 1263333081 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :borken < 1263333087 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls < 1263333088 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interps < 1263333093 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps < 1263333093 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1l < 1263333118 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1263333133 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/lazyk < 1263333133 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :USED_VERSION < 1263333166 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!sh ls interps/lazyk/lazy -e "`k``s``si`k``s`k```sii``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk``s``s`ksk```s``siii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s``s`ksk```s``s`kski``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk```sii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k```sii``s``s`kski```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k```sii``s``s`kski```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si` < 1263333167 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/tmp/input.12798: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' < 1263333168 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k````s``s`ksk```s``siii``s``s`kski`s``s`ksk```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k``s``s`kski```s``siii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk```s``siii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``s < 1263333169 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i`k``s`k```sii``s``s`kski```sii``s``s`ksk``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k```s``s`kski``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk```sii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s``s`ksk``s`k``s``s`kski```s``siii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k``s`k``s``s`kski``s``s`ksk```sii``s``s`kski`k``s``si`k```sii```sii``s``s`kski`k```sii```sii``s``s`kski" < 1263333176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop it < 1263333178 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for fuck's sake < 1263333181 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't fit on one irc line < 1263333182 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry! < 1263333185 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1263333187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't mind me < 1263333189 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just grumpy < 1263333195 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm in a grumpytacular mood < 1263333197 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20100106054534]" < 1263333206 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I'm not now, because I read the word grumpytacular < 1263333210 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey i never said you should leave < 1263333215 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm grumpy again < 1263333260 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to un-grumpify ehird, but I tend to make ehird grumpy, I think
< 1263333333 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: make a haskell program and i'll be happy < 1263333335 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like haskell programs < 1263333374 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1263333394 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell = "sucks" < 1263333396 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hapy??? < 1263333422 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soupdragon: that is not a haskell program < 1263333423 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, you suck < 1263333432 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how is that not a haskell program? < 1263333476 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no main function < 1263333504 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a function that I forgot the name and type of < 1263333514 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: how useful < 1263333532 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main = id < 1263333541 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is a cat program, iirc < 1263333572 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interact < 1263333581 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. And obviously it doesn't start with c < 1263333596 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's memory is obviously broken
< 1263333606 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrambled, possibly < 1263333608 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interact :: (String → String) → String < 1263333616 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1263333620 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1263333621 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.haskell.org/hoogle/?hoogle=interact < 1263333621 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→ IO () < 1263333626 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should have made :: the unicode character, but my Compose doesn't have it < 1263333647 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does Haskell actually accept arrows like that? I doubt it < 1263333678 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i understand ghc has some unicode extensions < 1263333698 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes < 1263333706 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you enable it < 1263333791 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool ]{}[ isn't registered :D < 1263334170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :info ] < 1263334170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :opos < 1263334170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1263334170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://community.haskell.org/~ndm/cmdargs/ ← this is super-rad < 1263334170 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1263334170 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@kosh.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1263334170 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1263334170 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: is coadjute abandoned? < 1263334228 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All my Haskell stuff has been semi-abandoned lately < 1263334228 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1263334255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just curious < 1263334256 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Why?) < 1263334319 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s(int*a,int b){int t=*a;--b?s(a+1,b),a[(*a=1[a])a[1]?z=a[1],*a=a[1],a[1]=z:s(a+1);} < 1263335012 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does a&&b?c:d work? < 1263335015 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as a&&(b?c:d) < 1263335018 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even with commas < 1263335030 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?: has lower precedence < 1263335032 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So no < 1263335045 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about a?b?c:d:0 :P < 1263335051 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That works < 1263335055 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As what? < 1263335059 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a?(b?c:d):0? < 1263335061 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the only thing it can work as < 1263335069 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :True that. < 1263335077 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s(int*a){*a?*a>a[1]?z=a[1],*a=a[1],a[1]=z:s(a+1):0;} < 1263335083 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This has one flaw: It fails on "0". < 1263335086 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But who uses that number? < 1263335091 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh wait. < 1263335098 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s(int*a){~*a?*a>a[1]?z=a[1],*a=a[1],a[1]=z:s(a+1):0;} < 1263335102 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, now it can't sort the maximum integer. < 1263335112 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apart from that it's pea-chy < 1263335130 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need to declare that z methinks < 1263335138 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tru dat < 1263335154 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, and I can't use C99-style declarations either < 1263335156 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because < 1263335160 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int z=a[1],... < 1263335162 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd have to be < 1263335166 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(int z=a[1]),... < 1263335194 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from make output: ./compiletex font.tex font.h font < 1263335196 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Declarations aren't expressions :-P < 1263335198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really confused me that < 1263335203 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then I realised tex = texture < 1263335207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not TeX < 1263335208 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Tru dat < 1263335217 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, I just realised the xor swap must work in thiscase. < 1263335221 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because > therefore !=. < 1263335236 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's three chars shorter than declaring a variable < 1263335255 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, two. < 1263335259 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No wait, 1. < 1263335276 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s(int*a){*~a?*a>a[1]?*a^=a[1],a[1]^=*a,*a^=a[1]:s(a+1):0;} < 1263335278 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops < 1263335281 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s(int*a){~*a?*a>a[1]?*a^=a[1],a[1]^=*a,*a^=a[1]:s(a+1):0;} < 1263335364 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's that going to sort {3,4,1,2}? < 1263335381 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :({3,4,1,2,~0}) < 1263335391 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, too tired to work it out, what does it do? < 1263335398 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Oh, you're right < 1263335402 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have to recurse even if I do swap < 1263335405 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: No cookie for you < 1263335417 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does one pass of bubble sort or suchlike < 1263335419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, fine *half asleep* < 1263335444 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s(int*a){~*a?*a>a[1]?*a^=a[1],a[1]^=*a,*a^=a[1]:0,s(a+1):0} < 1263335474 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming that a?b?c,d:e,f:g parses as a?((b?(c,d):e),f):g < 1263335475 0 :kar8nga!n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1263335478 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which it probably… doesn't. < 1263335479 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You just changed the :s(a+1) case to :0,s(a+1)? < 1263335492 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s(int*a){~*a?(*a>a[1]?*a^=a[1],a[1]^=*a,*a^=a[1]:0),s(a+1):0;} < 1263335496 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, properly parenised. < 1263335522 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Rather, if we're not at the end of the list, we always go on one < 1263335527 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :regardless of our swapping < 1263335536 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since you need those parens it'll probably be shorter with an if < 1263335544 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm wait < 1263335548 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if ~*a but ~a[1] < 1263335549 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: That's still O(n) :-P < 1263335551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Better make it ~a[1] < 1263335559 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Gah, you're right < 1263335560 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You aren't going to sort anything in O(n) < 1263335571 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not with comparisons anyway. < 1263335577 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_sort < 1263335583 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just stupidly copying wp's pseudocode < 1263335584 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without, you know < 1263335586 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reading it < 1263335590 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>_< < 1263335597 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I'l do pigeonhole sort < 1263335598 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*I'll < 1263335601 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do selection sort or something instead, bubble sort sux < 1263335606 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or whatever < 1263335612 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm not concerned about performance < 1263335617 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONCISION IS EVERYTHING < 1263335622 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Neither am I < 1263335643 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can never remember how bubble sort works but selection sort can be described in less than five words < 1263335647 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int foo[max value in array], when you find n do foo[n]++, reassemble array < 1263335652 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ehh, too much overhead < 1263335664 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Do so, then :D < 1263335699 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Repeatedly fetch the minimum" conveys the point well enough < 1263335734 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, merge sort for the win < 1263335762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :split, recurse, swap, merge < 1263335788 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swap? < 1263335808 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, innermost layer < 1263335841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I guess you could split into 1, and then merge those < 1263335843 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, there's no swap < 1263335849 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1263336491 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :"Leaving" < 1263336596 0 :soupdragon!n=somebody@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1263336632 0 :soupdragon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1263337139 0 :coppro!n=coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337196 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: while not sorted, loop through array, swapping adjacent pairs in correct order. < 1263337230 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote closed the connection < 1263337271 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe slightly harder to remember than bubble sort, but i'm not sure it's a great argument that it's hard to remember how it works < 1263337300 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wasn't really an argument for anything < 1263337309 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose, neither was mine < 1263337340 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i win < 1263337342 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is bubble sort < 1263337347 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"slightly harder to remember than bubble sort" < 1263337349 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MADE AN ERROR < 1263337351 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you lose < 1263337354 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1263337362 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose < 1263337378 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you now have only 13096 tries left < 1263337419 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i win. < 1263337430 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that remains to be seen < 1263337479 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklofok: yeah, that is exactly bubble sort < 1263337486 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's not bogosort < 1263337548 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although you need to specify the direction of looping, if you want multiple bubbles, you will need to loop from end to beginning < 1263337549 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :holy shit < 1263337551 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you use wall(1) in kde < 1263337554 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it comes up in the notification area < 1263337556 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1263337574 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otherwise it's basically selection < 1263337640 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err wait it's symmetric < 1263337671 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so nevermind that. in any case it is quite similar to selection sort < 1263337683 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err... no < 1263337697 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stops failing at philosophy of sorting algorithms
< 1263337727 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337727 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337727 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337728 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337728 0 :yiyus!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337728 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337729 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337729 0 :anmaster_l!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337729 0 :lifthrasiir!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337729 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337729 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337729 0 :dbc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337729 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337729 0 :mycroftiv!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :farmer.freenode.net irc.freenode.net < 1263337756 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird: write too < 1263337777 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though since it goes a message per line, it's not great < 1263337837 0 :Deewiant!n=deewiant@kosh.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337837 0 :FireFly!n=firefly@1-1-3-36a.tul.sth.bostream.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337837 0 :anmaster_l!n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337837 0 :lifthrasiir!i=cbxvpLMT@haje12.kaist.ac.kr JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337837 0 :olsner!n=salparot@c83-252-238-148.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337837 0 :bsmntbombdood!n=gavin@97-118-192-33.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337837 0 :dbc!n=daniel@130-94-161-238-dsl.hevanet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337837 0 :EgoBot!n=EgoBot@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337837 0 :mycroftiv!n=infernus@h69-128-47-243.mdsnwi.dedicated.static.tds.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337873 0 :oerjan!n=oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337873 0 :Sgeo!n=Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337873 0 :comex!i=comex@c-98-210-192-54.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337873 0 :fungot!n=fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337873 0 :yiyus!i=12427124@je.je.je JOIN :#esoteric < 1263337894 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa. < 1263337899 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish the fish shell had less flaws :< < 1263337903 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate using traditional shells < 1263338399 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird, what flaws? < 1263338418 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for instance, setting a variable for the duration of one command is a bitch < 1263338425 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1263338432 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to do env x=y ... < 1263338434 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i believe < 1263338448 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot, J works nicely on Kubuntu < 1263338453 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in Kubuntu, I guess. < 1263338501 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :under Kubuntu < 1263338795 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god, J comes with a package browser for all kinds of stuff < 1263338798 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awesome < 1263338805 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's even updates of the base library < 1263339058 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should do some sort of specifying of the poop language. < 1263339100 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pathological Objects Osomething Psomething. < 1263339153 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pathological Object Oriented Programming < 1263339172 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, that'd be a good one; it isn't OOP in the slightest, but it has "objects" < 1263339176 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the language is oriented around them < 1263339187 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's similar to what my impression of DOBELA is given only Deewiant's probing about it < 1263339353 0 :anmaster_l!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) < 1263339354 0 :augur!n=augur@208-59-119-22.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1263339457 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically, you have little particles that go in directions, and there are mirrors they can bounce off < 1263339468 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if two particles collide, they shoot off some different particles < 1263339476 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there are sinks and stuff that they can fall into to do things < 1263339829 0 :oklofok!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nothing makes sense < 1263339879 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :poop makes sense < 1263339924 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what's the gesture that does the exposé-type thing in kde < 1263339927 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i keep doing it by mistake < 1263339941 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah go to top-left and scroll mouse < 1263339943 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obvious :P < 1263339949 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O_o < 1263339957 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use the screen edges < 1263339966 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I just didn't hit the edge fast enough < 1263339970 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except when scrolling < 1263339973 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as an entirely incidental thing < 1263340401 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Particles Out Of Place < 1263340494 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) < 1263340501 0 :ehird!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it can have multiple expansions! < 1263340796 0 :augur_!n=augur@208-59-119-22.c3-0.161-ubr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric