< 1270339246 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1270339441 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1270339504 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck gnome 2.30. They *edited* the old icon theme for the worse. It looks ugly as fuck. And no they didn't save the old icon theme under another name as far as I can tell. < 1270339512 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is really annoyed now < 1270340160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah here we go. Old version extracted to /usr/share/icons/gnome-previous < 1270341279 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I will do anything (almost) for a new router. < 1270341350 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270345112 0 :Alex3012_!~chatzilla@ool-18b989d3.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270345151 0 :Alex3012!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1270345155 0 :Alex3012_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Alex3012 < 1270345532 0 :adam_d__!~Adam@client-86-23-116-15.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1270345702 0 :adam_d_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1270346514 0 :adam_d__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1270347107 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1270347457 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DOCTORRRRRRRR < 1270347459 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::DDDDDDDDDDDDD < 1270347549 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi augur < 1270347560 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAXXXXXX < 1270347568 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help < 1270347575 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i need somebody < 1270347579 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELP < 1270347582 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not just anybooody < 1270347585 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1270347626 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sup girly < 1270347695 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk I can't figure out what to do now < 1270347785 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for? < 1270347827 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for my self :S < 1270347832 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey augur < 1270347836 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.o < 1270347842 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :watch the new doctor who episode! < 1270347844 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I understand why you can't trisect an angle :D < 1270347855 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone talks about doctor who < 1270347856 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you CAN trisect an angle < 1270347859 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't been watching it < 1270347863 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just not with a compass and straightedge < 1270347866 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1270347870 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur want me to tell you i < 1270347871 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur want me to tell you it < 1270347955 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what who how huh < 1270348036 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the proof < 1270348600 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur < 1270348601 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fat head < 1270348607 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1270348619 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION rapes fax < 1270348621 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait damnit < 1270348624 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're a girl < 1270348625 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1270348633 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that didnt happen < 1270348635 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so are you < 1270348650 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am not < 1270348666 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IZE A BOY < 1270349715 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1270349919 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "rape" he of course means "scour one's existence from the earth". < 1270349948 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I'm not sure where that takes me, but in the end, your mom's a whore. < 1270350433 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I bite off augurs hand < 1270350438 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sucker < 1270351104 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax, what's the proof? < 1270351122 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo -- okay < 1270351157 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first thing is to notice that if we have lengths x and y on our paper -- we can also construct x+y, x-y, xy, x/y using our straightedge and compass < 1270351205 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you do xy and x/y? < 1270351212 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the only other thing we can really do is draw a circle and intersect a line with it: analytically this means solving something like x^2+y^2=r^2 against a linear equation -- all in all we can take square roots this way < 1270351353 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1270351625 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put x and y at right angles < 1270351806 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no you don't sorry < 1270351810 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you put x and 1 at right angles < 1270351817 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1? < 1270351818 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you draw the hypotenuse, and exend it out (forever) < 1270351825 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need a '1' value to multiply things < 1270351839 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean you could just use a thumbwidth or something < 1270351841 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you're responding to my x*y x/y question < 1270351853 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this is a triangle with sides, 1:x < 1270351884 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you exend the baseline too, until you find a place where the height down is y, and that gives a (similar) triangle with is y:xy < 1270351897 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to divide numbers you can just reverse this procedure < 1270351898 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can construct sqrt(x) toooooo < 1270351972 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, so in effect we have a field (have you met this structure from algebra before??) < 1270351993 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've heard of fields, don't really know what they are. They define certain operations on them? < 1270352019 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a field is just something which has +,-,*,/ and stuff like (x+y)z = xz+yz < 1270352043 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we can construct every element of our field with a ruler and compass! < 1270352091 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say our field so far is R, we can adjoin some square roots to get R[sqrt(x)] which is again a field < 1270352171 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously constructing an angle is equivalent to constructing it's cosine. In the case of the angle being 360/n it's equivalent to constructing the n-gon right? < 1270352199 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is only half paying attention, tbh < 1270353038 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1270359876 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you pissed fax offfffffff < 1270361234 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1270361387 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1270361443 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found another esolang called ModanShogi it is based on a shogi game movements < 1270361447 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://github.com/yhara/ShogiModan < 1270362001 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice. < 1270362720 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can easily imagine writing a Haskell implementation of BF before ever understanding a nice way to write a Python implementation of BF < 1270362841 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mind you, with Haskell, I can use Parsec < 1270362883 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is severe overkill for Brainfuck parsing. < 1270363040 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's healthier to figure out how to do without < 1270364291 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you saw my parser in Haskell, did you not? < 1270364292 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. < 1270364306 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, um, part of it < 1270364312 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I saw the full thing < 1270364328 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And at any rate, I want to process everything into BFCmds before processing < 1270364333 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And nobody expects the big monster with three tentacles on the same ship either, unless *I* say so. < 1270364360 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: um < 1270364366 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=24645#a24645 < 1270364367 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you dumb < 1270364390 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1270364414 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION obviously shouldn't have said processing in both places, if that's what you mean < 1270364469 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, I think BFComment can be useful. Say I also want to write a simple optimizer < 1270364479 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't need to interpret to do that < 1270364486 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I can leave comments in place < 1270364509 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I hope one day you learn python and haskell and maybe even scheme < 1270364528 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[and brainfuck for that matter] < 1270364531 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION knows Python fairly well < 1270364743 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence, are you going to explain yourself? < 1270364867 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1270364882 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a good friend was here, I'd have him explain < 1270364959 0 :dixon!~dixon@unaffiliated/reikon JOIN :#esoteric < 1270364962 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ohai < 1270364999 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I heard someone was being stupid and wanted to use monadic parsing for brainfuck. < 1270365015 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who gets to wear the dummy hat? < 1270365036 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants to see proof that dixon /= Quadrescence  < 1270365049 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AWWW Sgeo GETS TO WEAR THE DUMMY HAT! < 1270365062 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, first you should /msg nickserv info dixon all < 1270365084 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And see that I've been registered years before Quadrescence with an entirely different account. < 1270365145 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you should stop using monadic parsing, which I'm guessing at least 100 people in this channel told you was a bad idea. < 1270365202 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Overkill == bad idea? < 1270365246 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Always. < 1270365258 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be like driving your children to school in a tank. < 1270365268 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When all you really wanted was side-impact airbags. < 1270365318 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think 42 is really the proper answer to life, the universe, and everything, or do you think not? < 1270365336 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i think ur homosexual < 1270365422 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Why do you think that, please? < 1270365450 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: evidence suggests so < 1270365489 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you please explain what evidence and how you can come to that conclusion from the given evidence, I would like to know how < 1270365521 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turing was gay, we in this channel talk about stuff that Turing did a lot, therefore we are all gay. < 1270365535 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That's a dumb way. < 1270365551 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps it was true of Turing but it doesn't make that of everyone < 1270365553 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: do you mind if I finish these sun chips and mtn dew < 1270365564 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, no kidding? < 1270365571 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: I really don't care. They aren't mine < 1270365574 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: He integrated you over a finite portion of a hypergeometric function and realized you swung the wrong way. < 1270365587 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx dixon < 1270365591 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :np < 1270365593 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm actually asexual < 1270365593 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(=p) < 1270365601 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(virgin) < 1270365684 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh and i have some sixlets to eat too < 1270365708 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have some twins to eat later. I'm waiting for them to arrive :3 < 1270365722 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1270365744 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was that sexual innuendo < 1270365746 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"eat" < 1270365767 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1270365790 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1270365811 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When? < 1270365848 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In case you didn't know, I was asking "Why?" to Quadrescence's) < 1270365889 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: oh I guess I am hungwy < 1270365912 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean "hungry" or "hungwy"? < 1270365942 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the latter < 1270365972 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should really be sleeping < 1270366002 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or using Python. < 1270366058 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I have never heard of such a word as "hungwy" and I don't know what it means < 1270366115 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's etymologically related to "twat." I would ask if you were familiar, but it seems you've already implied not. < 1270366671 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you have any idea of making spell in D&D game? < 1270366843 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have ideas to make spell to swap the text contents of two books or scrolls, and also to make the caster's hand fall off, and so on < 1270367164 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The real country of freedom is "Pull down to select" < 1270367389 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1270367436 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when Sevil arrives on the ship, if there is not a big monster with three tentacles arriving on the same ship, something has gone wrong and you have to figure out what's wrong. < 1270367439 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: zzo38 < 1270367999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1270368000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1270368089 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-198.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270368908 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was thinking about how to get the optimizer working, and it helped me figure out a bit of the parsing < 1270369145 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was thinking about how to get Sgeo's brain working, and it helped me figure out that he's probably just hopeless :\ < 1270369497 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wuv you Sgeo, I do, I'd just wish you'd listen to the four people telling you that you're strangling kittens with oil pipeline. < 1270369509 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not using Parsec < 1270369515 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You promise? < 1270369520 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1270369536 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would give you a hug, but I have a tendency to cop a feel. < 1270369562 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I _am_ using a data BFCmd that means I can't just write parseBFChar '+' = BFInc etc < 1270369663 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could always try python-llvm, for the lulz. < 1270369702 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION should be sleeping < 1270369711 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sleep will probably let me think better when I awake < 1270369716 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's 3:26AM here < 1270369723 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :03:30 here. < 1270369754 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o.O < 1270369772 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Either you're rounding, or there's a mysterious 3min difference < 1270369787 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, *looks at timestamp* 4min < 1270369792 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :between 3-4 < 1270369825 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I'm using NTP, so I hope it's not wrong. < 1270370065 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1270370073 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nini < 1270371511 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1270372568 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I will do anything (almost) for a new router. < 1270373966 0 :adam_d!~Adam@client-86-23-116-15.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1270374630 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1270374871 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1270376619 0 :olsner_!~salparot@81-233-241-210-no50.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1270376766 0 :MigoMipo!~migomipo@84-217-0-254.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270377098 0 :Tritonio_GR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1270378073 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1270381644 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1270382451 0 :olsner_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: olsner_ < 1270384342 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1270384700 0 :cheater2!~cheater@ip-80-226-214-99.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1270386404 0 :olsner_!~salparot@81-233-241-210-no50.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1270386879 0 :fax!~none@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1270390631 0 :olsner_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: olsner_ < 1270391416 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1270392194 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1270395002 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1270397624 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1270398227 0 :MigoMipo!~migomipo@84-217-0-254.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270398481 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1270399150 0 :hiato!~fdulu@41-132-216-79.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1270399575 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1270399676 0 :hiato!~fdulu@41-132-142-139.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1270400061 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes to write a separate tape manipulation module < 1270400124 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION does something more interesting than implement brainfuck < 1270400336 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION comments < 1270400394 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if he's over-engineering < 1270400481 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270401801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is that sort of "always" falling tone called now again? < 1270401805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not always falling < 1270401807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just sounds like it < 1270401827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was one in Mario64, if you went up the final stairs before collecting enough stars < 1270401846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I remember hearing some name for that sort of sound once < 1270401933 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, do you happen to know? I think I remember you were involved in a discussion about them here ages ago? < 1270402278 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I vaguely remember a discussion about them, but not any specific name. I think the tones themselves were mentioned on some "auditory illusions" page. < 1270402410 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently it's sometimes called Shepard’s paradox, though that name seems to be a bit ambiguous. < 1270402416 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.moillusions.com/2006/05/audio-optical-illusions.html < 1270402446 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Audio optical illusions" < 1270402449 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupidest phrase EVER < 1270402457 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : heh < 1270402473 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone seems to call them that. :p < 1270402497 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://angrydylan.blogspot.com/2007/11/shepards-paradox.html is another bit, and you can obviously google more. < 1270402547 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shepard_tone is also related. < 1270402552 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phew, maybe that was enough linkery. < 1270402672 0 :olsner_!~salparot@81-233-241-210-no50.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1270402781 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a lot less of a trick than I originally assumed it might be :P < 1270402842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, no! need more links! < 1270402845 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quick! < 1270402847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1270402985 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.www.com.com < 1270403009 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if someone owns that < 1270403031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :www.com.com seems to redirect to cnet < 1270403040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so presumably they own www.www.com.com too < 1270403041 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmm < 1270403042 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a subdomain of com.com, which belongs to cnet < 1270403050 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1270403051 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though it isn't in dns < 1270403114 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://org.org/ --- wth is this place? < 1270403179 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone's random photos is what it looks like. < 1270403191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, why not call it audio illusions instead? < 1270403201 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, there is no good reason to include the word optical there < 1270403217 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, with such n awesome name < 1270403229 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike if you were to use the Swedish word for optical illusions: "synvillor" where "syn" refers to "sight" < 1270403247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calling it "ljudsynvillor" would be quite reasonable then < 1270403276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(because "villor" alone means nothing related to illusions. It means "villas". Go figure) < 1270403292 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess ljudvillor would be interpretable too < 1270403303 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was gonna ask < 1270403370 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if his decision to make moveRight :: Tape a -> Maybe (Tape a) will just confuse him beyond all home < 1270403373 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hope < 1270403471 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: BF in Haskell? I have but one question: why? < 1270403684 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what's the meaning < 1270403712 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, why maybe? < 1270403723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, won't moving right always be possible? < 1270403736 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while moving left might hit the start < 1270403741 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's a wrap < 1270403757 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, then it will always be possible in both directions < 1270403780 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, that's how i'd do it < 1270403810 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I want there to be several kinds of tape < 1270403823 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's possible to make tape unbounded at both ends, or bounded at both ends < 1270403860 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, nah I would do infinite tape upwards, but finite downwards < 1270403864 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Tape a = Tape [a] a [a] < 1270403865 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1270403872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus forming an analogy to N < 1270403879 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the head of each list being the element closest to the head < 1270403883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while infinite in both directions would be an analogy to Z < 1270403885 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, tape head < 1270403891 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uphill both ways < 1270403906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your tape hiato would be an analogy to N modulo x < 1270403942 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what a tape analogous to Q or R would be < 1270403943 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess < 1270403956 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also what a finite, non-wrapping one would be < 1270403960 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a finite set I guess < 1270403965 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1270403966 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without modulo < 1270403981 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How would I make a tape that wraps? let the_list = [0,0,0,0,0] in Tape (reverse the_list) 0 the_liist? < 1270404001 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I don't.. think so < 1270404003 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's impossible < 1270404004 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I want an uncountably infinite bf tape :( < 1270404012 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1270404015 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, what is? < 1270404022 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrapping around in a tape? no < 1270404029 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I donno, I just find it easier to give a generous length, then rotate tape as needed, always working on the first element < 1270404034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just take the current position modulo the length of the day < 1270404039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/day/tape/ < 1270404041 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weird typo < 1270404048 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1270404055 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR do rotatinos < 1270404062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotatinos? < 1270404078 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rotations < 1270404081 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1270404090 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, using a linked list? < 1270404091 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tail a ++ [head a] < 1270404104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then yes it makes sense to use a circular linked list < 1270404135 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no it doesn't < 1270404147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, if the language is single assignment that would be rather inefficient < 1270404157 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming cons style lists that is < 1270404168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax, why not? < 1270404174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use a double linked circular list < 1270404179 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving left or right is trivial < 1270404186 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just follow the pointer in the relevant direction < 1270404191 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course that requires a low level language < 1270404203 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you are going to use mutable variables then you should make the values mutable rather than the cons < 1270404216 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah, true, but that's the concpt, and if mage lazy it doesn't really matter - all operationse on the first etement only < 1270404229 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, "mage lazy"? < 1270404234 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1270404243 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea < 1270404250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, what the heck was "mage" a typo for... < 1270404252 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :New keyboard layout < 1270404265 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :made? < 1270404268 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1270404272 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, made < 1270404277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, dvorsak? < 1270404284 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err modulo spelling < 1270404291 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naah, my own < 1270404297 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was on colemak < 1270404312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm perfectly happy with qwerty < 1270404324 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't type that much, I code. Meaning I think more than I type < 1270404337 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(becuase I don't use asm) < 1270404337 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right < 1270404349 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :naah, just an experiment < 1270404360 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I do :P) < 1270404371 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well okay I use inline asm in C sometimes... < 1270404398 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're just afraid of it's power < 1270404410 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nah < 1270404416 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1270404416 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer high level languages < 1270404429 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like extremes < 1270404468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because what needs 200 lines of C needs maybe 20 lines of erlang. (well usually not quite as dramatic ratio, but when the stuff is heavy on memory handling it might be) < 1270404510 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how many lines of C would it take you to write a program that recurse through a set of directories given on the command line, finding duplicate files < 1270404518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should avoid reading files if possible < 1270404524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by checking the size of the files < 1270404537 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, well, if people talk efficiency and anything other than ASM, they're just making up useless -etrics < 1270404547 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, har. < 1270404552 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, 10000's < 1270404554 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, well, efficient in programmer time < 1270404571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no not 10000s < 1270404579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think maybe 1000 lines at most < 1270404585 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some 900 more likely < 1270404593 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in erlang it took me, what, *checks* < 1270404618 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :232 lines, including comments and blanks < 1270404631 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, 10000's because I know no C libraries and would prob implument another language and link to bash or something < 1270404635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Language Files Code Comment Comment % Blank Total < 1270404635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :---------------- ----- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- < 1270404635 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erlang 1 119 81 40.5% 32 232 < 1270404645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :according to ohcount < 1270404646 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1270404664 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does it in three steps < 1270404678 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah? < 1270404699 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 1: recurse and read file info, store in a dict the size as key, and append the filename to the value < 1270404708 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so all files with the same size is in the same key < 1270404744 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clever start < 1270404796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 2/3: (2) for each such key it goes through and calculate the hash of each file, stores a 2-tuple {size,md5sum} with filenames (3) for each such key, now it finally checks that they are the same, and we don't have a theoretical hash collision < 1270404805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 2/3 are done interleaved to make use of disk cache < 1270404812 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, it won't need to read the files in again < 1270404828 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :step 2 is done to not have to load as much file data into memory at once < 1270404836 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I need to run this on fairly large files < 1270404842 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say 200-300 MB each at most < 1270404867 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot often the files will be much smaller < 1270404910 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm, but as you probably considered, tle size comparison isn't really necessary, in fact, i'm sure any decent hash takes it into account anyway < 1270404929 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, still clever < 1270404947 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, the size is to reduce having to read the files from disk < 1270404955 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there are no two files of the same size < 1270404960 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't have to read those at all < 1270404970 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since getting the size is way faster than reading the file < 1270404979 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it maps to a simple stat() or such at some level < 1270404981 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. Heh < 1270404997 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, cant fault you then < 1270404998 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, I ran this on the linux source tree with a compiled kernel in it < 1270405010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was way faster than a naive bash script that I used before < 1270405027 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, 30 seconds vs. 7 minutes < 1270405034 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both on cold cache < 1270405042 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? I thought pipes and such are lazy < 1270405047 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1270405050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are you talking about < 1270405051 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow < 1270405077 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a | grep b && c < 1270405087 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, rather < 1270405106 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1270405119 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, I'm slow with kbd < 1270405131 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please hold < 1270405170 0 :iamtheobject!~objectcon@173.160.75.174 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270405175 0 :iamtheobject!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-.- < 1270405228 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1270405242 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, they just work concurrentlyu < 1270405245 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :concurrently* < 1270405247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not lazily < 1270405285 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, btw wth is up with the topic? You set it last it looks like < 1270405317 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't like it? :P < 1270405399 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An efficient implementation in *sh would take into account that pipes as data flow are lazy, more specifically, if used as a source, it will only feed as much as is requested, so you could easily implement a naieve list and glob for files based on hashes andpipes that feed data only to the point that the conditional request fails < 1270405444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, no that is incorrect < 1270405452 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh? < 1270405462 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pipes are just concurrent, not lazy < 1270405468 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damnit < 1270405470 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the kernel has a buffer < 1270405478 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i did all that typing < 1270405479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and writes block if that buffer is full < 1270405549 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :theoretically I could optimise my implementation by doing the md5 calculation while data is being read in < 1270405555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shouldn't be too hard in erlang < 1270405569 0 :ehirdiphone!~ehirdipho@82.132.248.27 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270405574 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wouldn't know < 1270405576 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ehirdiphone < 1270405586 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yo < 1270405615 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi ehirdiphone < 1270405621 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you on the iPhone? < 1270405624 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: phone? < 1270405627 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1270405639 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh reasons. Not important. Hello! < 1270405662 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I'm overengineering my BF interpreter < 1270405674 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you seen the cw input interface for the iPhone? < 1270405684 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BRB < 1270405699 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: ? < 1270405702 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? < 1270405724 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Morse Code iput, er, iDitDah or somesuch < 1270405730 0 :olsner_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: olsner_ < 1270405734 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird god dammit < 1270405806 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: http://kb1ooo.com/iditdahtext/iDitDahText.html < 1270405851 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You are *probably* overengineering it. < 1270405852 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: What?! < 1270405880 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was wanting to talk to you for ages < 1270405917 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: At most you had to wait two days. < 1270405944 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I /do/ have to pick things up from the old house. < 1270405946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone you and fax have been missing each other with like 5 minutes for *days* < 1270405953 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: Ha < 1270405964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, have things improved btw? < 1270405970 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Aha :-D < 1270405984 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: Dude, some people have real lives. Granted, ehird is normally an exception. Still. :P < 1270405990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, :D < 1270406072 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais formulated me getting a girlfriend as the most ludicrous explanation for the unit absence possible. Nuff said :P < 1270406090 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nuff said?? < 1270406110 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well gf's are extremely easy to get < 1270406117 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Enough. Except more nuff-y. < 1270406136 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Answered in MSG < 1270406137 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh she didn't get the nuff < 1270406142 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :msg < 1270406160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks < 1270406162 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wnat the fucking hell is going on < 1270406167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was watching that video hiato linked < 1270406176 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: Whaddya mean? < 1270406195 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is "pareto optimal" in common usage? < 1270406201 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you all know what it means? < 1270406230 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1270406281 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay that's enough of an answer for me < 1270406325 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::C < 1270406356 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: Be more precise and if you want to talk do. < 1270406424 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone do you know who I am ?? < 1270406425 0 :ehirdiphone_!~ehirdipho@82.132.248.25 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270406426 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1270406428 0 :ehirdiphone_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :ehirdiphone < 1270406534 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: I was under the impression you wanted to talk :P < 1270406558 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1270406581 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.nuffy.net/pics/funny/toilate/toilete_signs_08.jpg Little did they know that ZW birds are female :P < 1270407010 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : is "pareto optimal" in common usage? <-- what *does* it mean < 1270407049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : fax: Be more precise and if you want to talk do. < 1270407049 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ehirdiphone do you know who I am ?? < 1270407050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ehirdiphone_ (~ehirdipho@82.132.248.25) has joined #esoteric < 1270407050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ehirdiphone has quit (Remote host closed the connection) < 1270407050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* ehirdiphone_ is now known as ehirdiphone < 1270407050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : fax: I was under the impression you wanted to talk :P < 1270407052 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hi < 1270407055 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, in case you missed some of that < 1270407092 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: What do you mean, do you know who I am? < 1270407094 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.nuffy.net/pics/funny/toilate/toilete_signs_08.jpg Little did they know that ZW birds are female :P <-- ZZ? ZW? < 1270407151 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I'm your father ehirdiphone. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! < 1270407152 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleh at there being no Integer -> Char < 1270407156 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XX is female, ZW is female, so in fact these bathroom signs are indicating that male birds (and some insects, etc) use the same restroom as female mammals (e.g. humans :P ), and female birds (etc) use the same restroom as male mammals (e.g. humans) < 1270407166 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Int < 1270407174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, har < 1270407176 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ fromInteger < 1270407184 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, "restrooms"? < 1270407185 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :toEnum ? < 1270407197 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... yes? < 1270407198 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, do you mean toilets? < 1270407199 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hawt :P < 1270407210 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I should just have the tape be Tape Char < 1270407217 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, what is the circle and the triangle symbols? < 1270407219 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are* < 1270407220 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: In the US, that's just about the only word we don't use to refer to the room :P < 1270407227 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, heh < 1270407228 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that complicates + and - slightly < 1270407230 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That I can't answer ... < 1270407234 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not really, I guess < 1270407237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, ah < 1270407251 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: succ. pred < 1270407259 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Char will do fine. < 1270407304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, why call it restrooms? < 1270407310 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, also what about "loo"? < 1270407320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"water closet: a toilet in Britain < 1270407320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn" < 1270407323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I guess not < 1270407323 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a word with no meaning whatsoever here. < 1270407340 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Loo" is just fine. Don't think many people *use* it, but I'm pretty sure most people would understand it just fine. < 1270407353 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently Gregor didn't < 1270407356 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY YOU TRAITOR COMMY < 1270407358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I would use toilet? < 1270407360 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*COMMIE < 1270407361 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Hah. < 1270407363 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crapper < 1270407370 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "Uh, the toilet's in the bathroom..." < 1270407377 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :har < 1270407380 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody says water closet < 1270407381 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: "Uh, the toilet's in the bathroom..." < 1270407384 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't need to call them anything, just say you're gonna take a shit < 1270407389 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WC, /maybe/. < 1270407433 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i intend to leak fecal matter out of my ass, where should i do this" < 1270407434 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, OK, so most people would know what "loo" means. < 1270407447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, here in Sweden toalett can be both the room, or the equipment. When referred to as the room it is a room which contains only the equipment and handfat (English word slipped my mind, you was your hands there) < 1270407453 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would be like this "loo" -> "funny British word for bathroom" -> "bathroom" < 1270407458 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not "loo" -> "bathroom" < 1270407460 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wouldn't be used for a room that contained a bathtub or such as well < 1270407468 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas WC would just have people scratching their heads. < 1270407487 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "handfat" is officially the greatest word ever. < 1270407489 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WC is common on signs for toilets around here < 1270407491 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Sink? < 1270407494 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: A room with just a toilet is also a bathroom. ;) < 1270407498 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no one would *say* it though < 1270407502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, ah yes < 1270407505 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: yeah < 1270407508 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly < 1270407511 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, it is not! < 1270407514 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe in English < 1270407517 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"restroom" and "bathroom" are used interchangeably here. < 1270407519 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In floor plans, it's termed a "quarter bath". In spite of having 0 baths. < 1270407521 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in English, in American vernacular. < 1270407530 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always thought that abba song was about toilets when I was really young < 1270407535 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WATERLOO! < 1270407542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, well no one would say "water closet" in the same way as no one says "dihydrogen monoxide" < 1270407559 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I actually heard people using it, but just as a joke < 1270407571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, hehe < 1270407596 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh now I feel I have that tune on my head < 1270407661 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, that "water closet: a toilet in Britain" was from define:loo btw < 1270408621 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flood < 1270408623 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1270408628 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Upfpdgkglc fyoddv fypf cups tx hung ufgo < 1270408655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, flood? < 1270408673 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Izi USB jai ow zkqodj wkdhf euwixb jdb jd dk ne fdisk zlqpxh < 1270408684 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I will do anything (almost) for a new router. < 1270408684 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION goes elsewhere < 1270408722 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ozowkd abxoxbs fowoxjwj x dj jz. I icori h dj oso odj jebwkxodocidisbbaixieisoso kj jwoxppskjajco ackvpgirurvx iwospwiiqbzbc woxpfkf. < 1270408757 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1270408790 0 :dixon!~dixon@unaffiliated/reikon JOIN :#esoteric < 1270408843 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-00:01/10:33, and I'm near the end of this file < 1270408846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :says vlc < 1270408847 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :near the end < 1270408862 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:33 < AnMaster> was watching that video hiato linked <------ er? < 1270408866 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funny the way it continues to count < 1270408870 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-00:-02 < 1270408883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay now it is worse < 1270408889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:08/01:03 < 1270408906 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, the link you linked < 1270408917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :had a video demoing the thing on it < 1270408931 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooooooh. Heh < 1270408974 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, at least vlc can count, dont get me started about mpd and streams < 1270409188 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1270409199 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, oh? < 1270409211 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1270409286 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It just gives seemingly random numbers. Fair enough, it cant be expected to track position in a stream, but it gives me things like 99:01:01:01 < 1270409303 0 :dixon!~dixon@unaffiliated/reikon JOIN :#esoteric < 1270409305 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, what is that? The radio station is older < 1270409324 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I've been listening for maybe ten minutes < 1270409325 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, possibly in the current segment? < 1270409332 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of something < 1270409358 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, exactly < 1270409433 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, or 99 indicates a stream < 1270409445 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :se posible < 1270409450 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :se? < 1270409462 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, IIRC < 1270409470 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :French < 1270409475 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :non? < 1270409476 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :99:01:01:01 <-- is 99 in hundreds of hours? < 1270409478 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what < 1270409485 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea < 1270409493 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, well what is the last unit in? < 1270409499 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me connct now and show you < 1270409501 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seconds? centiseconds? < 1270409557 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pfftt.... no idea < 1270409571 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :07:17:47 is the one pice of info < 1270409584 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the other is my corroct listen time < 1270409587 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION has a 3 line, 14 column lcd here < 1270409598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should I make it possible to get a console on it? < 1270409601 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or try to at least < 1270409607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :would need a user space daemon for it < 1270409608 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FTW\ < 1270409616 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since I need to program it with libusb < 1270409619 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't se written c'est < 1270409622 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\//! < 1270409628 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can only display a limited charset btw < 1270409659 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wouldn't know, never took french < 1270409668 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ic < 1270409684 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("isn't ic written i see") < 1270409693 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;) < 1270409760 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1270409839 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: 20:30 < AnMaster> since I need to program it with libusb ---> what about a parallel port? Significantly easier < 1270409842 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270409874 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My dad stepped on the switch for the power thing that powers the cable modem < 1270409893 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what is a "mandelstam"? < 1270409903 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270409928 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a verb. "to mandelstam" < 1270409949 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, and it's meaning is? < 1270409954 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1270409965 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well ... it's a mandelly kind of ... stamming. < 1270409966 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*its < 1270410084 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? Wouldn't have guessed that, sneaky and deceptive. So it's like like a not so frabtious way of presbiedling < 1270410112 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-like < 1270410474 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think my bftape.hs is good enough < 1270410490 0 :adam_d!~Adam@client-86-23-116-15.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1270410531 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=24660#a24660 < 1270410639 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: any particular reason for moveby? < 1270410652 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270410665 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The main program stores BF commands as, e.g., BFMove 5 < 1270410675 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Instead of just BFRight < 1270410677 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or something < 1270410689 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, ok < 1270410800 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the modifyTapeHead < 1270410818 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice thinking < 1270410829 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty < 1270411044 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems like it can take a while to figure out how to write a line of Haskell, but reading it is easy < 1270411053 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[in general] < 1270411089 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's generally important to be able to read code later, more so than writing it now.. < 1270411126 0 :dixon!~dixon@unaffiliated/reikon JOIN :#esoteric < 1270411147 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, there? < 1270411155 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes? < 1270411160 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I have a little request for your musical skills < 1270411164 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh? < 1270411167 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, something I think might be interesting < 1270411194 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go on < 1270411197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, the result of merging the internationale and some of Chopin's music < 1270411204 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what it would sound like < 1270411212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it sounds interesting < 1270411218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I lack the skill to do it myself < 1270411279 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guhhh uhh? < 1270411287 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, eh? < 1270411329 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, is that a good or bad sign? < 1270411346 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't yet know :P < 1270411355 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, I do believe this is probably beyond my skills. < 1270411382 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, ah :/ < 1270411389 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you have anything more specific than "Chopin's music"? < 1270411419 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, well, some suitable music by him. I'm not quite enough expert on him to be able to name a specific piece < 1270411426 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, but iirc you liked him a lot < 1270411443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I assumed you would be able to pick a suitable, slow piece that is typical Chopin < 1270411456 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. "Any Chopin Nocturne #whatever" :P < 1270411475 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, well yes sounds good. < 1270411486 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just pick the number you want < 1270411524 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, you see, I and some other people were discussing this in another channel (on another network). < 1270411555 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I imagine the fact that you've ever heard The Internationale before and I have not has a lot to do with our respective positions on Earth :P < 1270411632 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, eh? < 1270411644 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, you haven't heard the Internationale?! < 1270411649 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I have now. < 1270411658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming that "ever" was a typo for "n&" < 1270411660 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :) < 1270411674 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe I have before, but dismissed it as "extraordinarily generic anthem-sounding music" < 1270411683 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, well so it is! < 1270411688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, kind of < 1270411707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, it is just that it is about as far as you can get from a Chopin nocturne < 1270411714 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is why we were discussing merging them < 1270411720 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see :P < 1270411749 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I have no idea if it is possible, and if it is, if the result is interesting < 1270411751 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I assume you were referring to merging not so much in creating a piece of music which is a stylistic merge, but actually mixing recordings of both into some horrible mutant. < 1270411771 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but considered that I once heard a boogie-woogie waltz... < 1270411777 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't consider it *impossible* < 1270411822 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm good at mixing X and deathcore for any value of X, if anyone's interested < 1270411830 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1270411846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, to what ratio? < 1270411871 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to any X/deathcore ratio less than or equal to 0.5, i suspect < 1270411908 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was actually mostly a joke, deathcore isn't what i usually write (although it is what i usually listen to). < 1270411916 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFO0SXf4mw4 (lyrics in Swedish btw, but the music itself should be interesting, the boogie-woogie waltz) < 1270411958 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the composer and perfomer is the famous (in Sweden) comedian Povel Ramel < 1270411964 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :performer* < 1270412126 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's some serious liquid insanity < 1270412256 0 :Alex3012!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1270412256 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270412256 0 :Alex3012!~chatzilla@ool-18b989d3.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270412345 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: set X = 0 < 1270412363 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :write me some nothing music < 1270412392 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i mix deathcore and nothing, won't the result be just deathcore < 1270412452 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also people generally manage to name the genre of any of my music, except those who hear an electric guitar and say metal or rock < 1270412457 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*don't < 1270412458 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1270412465 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hmm right < 1270412470 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god i'm getting tired of inequalities < 1270412483 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X = -deathcore < 1270412508 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't what? < 1270412527 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X = -deathcore + i :| < 1270412533 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there should be a don't somewhere in there < 1270412540 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X usually denotes a set < 1270412543 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they manage not < 1270412552 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or matrix < 1270412560 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or something that isn't a variable. < 1270412570 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh? < 1270412597 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean in something like let (X, S, m) be a measure space, X is not a variable? < 1270412612 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what do you mean by variable < 1270412619 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A variable varies. < 1270412632 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err no it doesn't, in math < 1270412637 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it does. < 1270412642 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In math. < 1270412643 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1270412647 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is news to me < 1270412651 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g., y = 3x+6 < 1270412655 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a variable is just something you plug in values for < 1270412658 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i believe you < 1270412664 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x \in R, thus x can VARY to be any value in R < 1270412672 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info < 1270412678 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and in (X, S, m), X can VARY to be any set < 1270412691 0 :ehirdiphone!~ehirdipho@82.132.139.16 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270412727 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ANY set. < 1270412734 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: That's a stupid definition of change. < 1270412746 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Thanks? < 1270412753 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely any set can be made a measure space out of < 1270412761 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x \in R has more constraints < 1270412770 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yw < 1270412798 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you say let x \in R and then prove something about x, you're doing it for any value of x. similary, if you let (X, S, m) be a measure space, and prove something about it, you prove something for any measure space. < 1270412806 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the difference making x a variable and X not one? < 1270412810 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Vitali set, boiiiiii < 1270412846 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1270412886 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll assume you were joking above < 1270412935 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll assume you're pretending not to know about non-measurable sets. < 1270412969 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know about non-measurable sets < 1270412985 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just don't see how vitali set made any sense < 1270412992 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders if making his parser blind to too many [ is a bad idea < 1270413035 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: "meh" < 1270413042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you meant < 1270413046 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, too many ] will probably cause it to ignore everything after the extra [ < 1270413048 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm ] < 1270413048 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad program = undefined behaviour :P < 1270413053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if X is a vitali set, then you can't make a measure space out of it? < 1270413055 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, heh < 1270413056 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not true < 1270413064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously < 1270413136 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1270413169 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: wrong < 1270413194 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: about what < 1270413196 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bad program = doesn't do what it's supposed to < 1270413206 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or it does but exceedingly poorly < 1270413216 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: any set X can be made into a measure space by setting S = {{}, X} and m(a) = 0 for all a \in S < 1270413218 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This parser is getting uglier by the second :/ < 1270413222 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even a vitali set < 1270413226 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: I meant < 1270413227 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if a measurable space has a lebesgue measure, and the Vitali set isn't lebesgue measurable < 1270413235 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Feed nonprogram to interpreter < 1270413238 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :=> UB < 1270413245 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh okay < 1270413252 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then you're off the hook < 1270413263 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's wonderful, but is that making a measure space of the Vitali set itself, or a different set containing the vitali set as a subset? < 1270413265 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE HOOK < 1270413289 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Use parsec :P < 1270413297 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's making a measure space of the vitali set, X = vitali set. i assumed the vitali set was an example of something X can't be < 1270413299 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, is that a joke? < 1270413304 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you said X can't be *absolutely any set* < 1270413304 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After several people told me NOT to? < 1270413305 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: no < 1270413313 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're fucking idiots < 1270413321 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and said this is because "vitali set boiiiiii" < 1270413324 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Brainfuck parsing. < 1270413325 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Were they in #haskell? < 1270413331 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not disregard them < 1270413336 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you can even make R^n into a measure space such that all vitali sets are measurable < 1270413342 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll leave this as homework < 1270413343 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Is a two liner in parsec < 1270413352 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, pikhq and Quadrescence and dixon < 1270413358 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 4 lines out of it. :P < 1270413370 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, um, this is much much more than 4 lines < 1270413387 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: dixon is a moron and pikhq should be ashamed :P < 1270413398 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Quadrescence is a fluffy bunny. < 1270413406 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thusly he can do no wrong. < 1270413412 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He is excused. < 1270413427 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about this: I do it both ways < 1270413439 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TMI < 1270413450 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1270413467 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : that's some serious liquid insanity <-- what is? < 1270413468 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: dixon is certainly not a moron < 1270413501 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: can you explain his statement about X vs x? < 1270413525 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope there's a better argument out there than vitali set boiiiii < 1270413536 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is better: A language that's easy to write in but difficult to read, or a language that's easy to read in but difficult to write? < 1270413540 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Boiiiii < 1270413549 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: neither < 1270413554 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: One that's difficult to both! < 1270413562 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I don't really remember what the argument was < 1270413581 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just that it seems that Haskell tends to be a bit of the latter, imo < 1270413591 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: then nm < 1270413607 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or read logs, it's not a very interesting argument < 1270413614 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Only because it is new to you. < 1270413626 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can reiterate the question/whatever so we are all on the same page < 1270413638 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Avoid stating informed opinions until you're informed :P < 1270413663 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the claim was that X usually denotes matrices or sets and is therefore not a variable, unlike x which denotes things like real numbers < 1270413680 0 :Oranjer!~HP_Admini@adsl-243-221-66.cae.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270413686 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that in x \in R, x can *vary*, whereas if you say (X, S, m) is a measure space, X can't vary < 1270413698 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: do you agree with what he just said (that this was the claim, be it true or false) < 1270413711 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see how there's any distinction between those < 1270413715 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: I said X can't assume all values. < 1270413728 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well X \in Set, of course < 1270413733 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g., a non-measurable set < 1270413747 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assuming lebesgue measure < 1270413752 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that statement i just find plain weird < 1270413763 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why couldn't you make a non-measurable set into a measure space < 1270413764 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: X \in Set or MeasurableSet < 1270413768 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Set < 1270413793 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any set made into a measure space as for instance (X, {{}, X}, m), m(a) = 0 for all a < 1270413805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*can be < 1270413820 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Notepad++: Please don't attempt to match [ and ] if they're in single quotes < 1270413837 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any negative number can be made nonnegative by adding its inverse. That doesn't make it initially nonegative. < 1270413838 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dear Sgeo_, learn to use a decent fucking editor < 1270413853 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also x \in R, so even if it was MeasurableSet, X would still be a variable in the same sense that we name an arbitrary element of some class < 1270413887 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: what? a vitali set is not in any way inherently non-measurable, as i said there are measures on R^n where vitali sets can be measured. < 1270413889 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually I don't think X is a variable now < 1270413901 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why? what's the difference? < 1270413909 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: It's not Lebesgue measurable! < 1270413916 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we say let X \in Set, and we say x \in R < 1270413926 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then we talk about that one x or X that can't change during the discussion < 1270413927 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just said "assuming Lebesgue measure" like 10000000 times < 1270413959 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err right, the second time i missed that < 1270413961 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did for a second but now I don't. When I think variable, I think: forall X in D, f(X) < 1270413973 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a weird assumption because it's not relevant that X can be non-measurable in some measure < 1270413991 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The most popular measure :\ < 1270413999 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(among the ladies anyway) < 1270414011 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(i thought boob size was the most pop) < 1270414013 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's still irrelevant if we're talking about whether X can be made into a measure space < 1270414025 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously there will be some spaces where X is not a measurable set, for any X except {} < 1270414042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah sure it's the most popular < 1270414055 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Make a measure space of boobies. Get your sigma algebra all over that :3 < 1270414091 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: also IIRC you just interchanged "measure space" and "measurable space" a few times < 1270414102 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: can you explain why "forall X in D, f(X)", as a definition for variable, makes x a variable in "x \in R", but not X in "X \in Set" < 1270414115 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i seriously doubt that, but maybe, let's see < 1270414131 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I can explain if I add more context to the question < 1270414133 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh well < 1270414167 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did talk about non-measurable set, and meant non-lebesque measurable, that might not have been clear from context < 1270414170 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idk this discussion is boring let's listen to Sgeo_ talk about stuff < 1270414171 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome, this parser seems to actually be working < 1270414172 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure add context < 1270414177 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's very boring < 1270414190 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool his parser is working < 1270414214 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if his parser is parsing or if he is confusing lexing with parsing or both < 1270414228 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, kind of. Extra ] causes it to cut off, and it seems to automatically put ] at the end if needed < 1270414240 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you guys think? < 1270414279 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1270414281 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not working < 1270414300 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah nvm guys his parser isn't working < 1270414300 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the fact ] is causing him trouble suggests parsing < 1270414343 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i ate so much pizza i'm all twitchy < 1270414352 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes I agree so I suppose he is talking about parsing and not lexing < 1270414358 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that healthy / even possible? < 1270414363 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it's caffeine kicking in < 1270414367 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no that is not healthy and it is not possible < 1270414379 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thought so < 1270414411 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: but what do you think, is he using a separate module for the parser and the interpreter < 1270414444 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of caffeine, i should probably make some coffee before i get tired < 1270414446 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably because he seems to be the type that would overengineer the dick out of something < 1270414459 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God did that to women < 1270414461 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hence men < 1270414482 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"out of something", so i think god did it to guys < 1270414491 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have the definition of the tape and functions that operate on it in a separate module < 1270414499 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :women are more optimal in many ways < 1270414500 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the pizza is slowing you down < 1270414518 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to win our pseudo-argument now >:) < 1270414538 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: so do you really have a stateful tape? or do you have a thing that generates new tapes from old ones < 1270414550 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :men are more in the direction of movie-autistic genius in that they suck and own at things more often than women < 1270414551 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :new tape from old ones < 1270414566 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=24660 < 1270414576 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is away from the equilibrium of perfect humanness < 1270414621 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: i never considered it a pseudo-argument, although i agree it was a complete waste of everyone's time < 1270414635 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: If we didn't have time to waste, we wouldn't be on IRC < 1270414637 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell is so anti-climactic. < 1270414645 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You slave for hours and what do you have to show for it? 44 lines. < 1270414664 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck yeah C \o/ < 1270414664 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  | < 1270414664 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  |\ < 1270414671 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha i love this bot < 1270414679 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It can't count. < 1270414692 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :counted just fine on my screen < 1270414704 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have a monospaced font? < 1270414706 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The modify lines seem to be below the 44 < 1270414706 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: you probs have that alignment junk I hate < 1270414713 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: DO NOT < 1270414713 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at a margin < 1270414717 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i consider non-monospace ugly < 1270414728 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Do you read websites in monospace? < 1270414730 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1270414735 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haHAHAHahahAHA < 1270414735 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: that is terrible < 1270414736 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so weird < 1270414741 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the worst idea i've ever heard < 1270414750 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also i disable all features on pages, they are just white on black monospace < 1270414756 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I helped him set up windows. Everything on his screen is < 1270414760 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone made the theme for me < 1270414760 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHahaAHaHahhahaHahahAHa < 1270414761 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jk Sgeo_'s idea of using parsec to parse bf was the worst idea < 1270414761 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1270414763 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :White on black < 1270414767 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Consolas < 1270414771 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERY thing < 1270414777 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're so weird. < 1270414780 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost everything, some things override it < 1270414782 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO exceptions. It is beautiful. < 1270414791 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: not on the internet < 1270414794 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even made an IE stylesheet for it < 1270414796 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people are like wtf why is your computer broken < 1270414800 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: oh yes < 1270414801 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that is, if you use more than 2 websites on the internet < 1270414803 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see ^ < 1270414806 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: That's just because you use Windows. < 1270414821 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's just because? the override? < 1270414836 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o/ _o/ \o/ _o_ \o_ < 1270414836 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  |           |          |       |       | < 1270414836 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                 /'\          >\        /´\      >\      |\ < 1270414850 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who decided to give some of these penises? < 1270414852 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: No the broken < 1270414856 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he meant < 1270414858 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If he used something other than Windows they'd say that because it's not Windows < 1270414861 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hmm yeah maybe < 1270414885 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you see they don't actually say anything because i never take my computer outside and no one even visits me < 1270414891 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i meet people but never here < 1270414902 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1270414912 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Sure you did. < 1270414927 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: You just go to your measure theory class and home to fap to it. < 1270414936 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We now know the truth! < 1270414939 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1270414954 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :measure theory isn't really what i do, measure spaces are just the only thing i was sure everyone would know < 1270414966 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: what is a measure space??? < 1270414978 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not like let [n, k, d]_q R be a linear code < 1270414979 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1270414988 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: What Is A Measure Space? < 1270414995 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well where everyone = {dixon} :D < 1270415002 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why are you asking me? < 1270415010 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i said everyone knows measure spaces < 1270415017 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and *someone* decided to take that literally < 1270415048 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you find someone else to assume to be ignorant? < 1270415058 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah fuuuuuuuuk taking "everyone" LITERALLY since there are so many other ways to take it < 1270415063 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o_ < 1270415063 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :      | < 1270415063 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :      >\ < 1270415082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so broken < 1270415092 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i never mean what i say < 1270415099 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bee are bee i hav 2 pee < 1270415103 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: only for xchat users < 1270415118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, and other similar clients < 1270415125 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made erc format it that way too < 1270415128 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Or because it was the highest level of knowledge you could surmount in order to battle my raging ego. < 1270415149 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it uses a static value < 1270415152 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Woohoo, I think it's working < 1270415153 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a max column < 1270415155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o_ < 1270415155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1270415155 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : >\ < 1270415156 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  | < 1270415156 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  |\ < 1270415162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what I see < 1270415190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That is a fekking bizarre alignment thing. < 1270415210 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, lowest < 1270415210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well no. It is supposed to be like xchat. But Quadrescence's nick is one char longer than the max length < 1270415218 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: aligned rightwards < 1270415218 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, this it overflows into the other area < 1270415222 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Uh huh! < 1270415224 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See, that's bizarro. < 1270415231 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: See? < 1270415233 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the linear code thing was the highest level < 1270415235 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1270415235 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, rightwards is normal < 1270415237 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to me < 1270415240 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xchat does it too < 1270415243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there it looks like: < 1270415247 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume you don't care what they are < 1270415250 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*know < 1270415251 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that's all that does that. < 1270415251 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : \o_ < 1270415252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : | < 1270415252 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : >\ < 1270415252 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                  | < 1270415252 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                 /´\ < 1270415254 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: I lol'd. < 1270415258 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, see ^ < 1270415266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, when I used irssi it did it too < 1270415268 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpaste.fcgi/view?id=24662#a24662 < 1270415272 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because I set irssi up that way < 1270415273 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be somewhat working < 1270415281 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Why do you break your IRC clients? < 1270415285 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another function will combine BFAlters and BFMoves etc. < 1270415287 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I find it *WAY* easier to read < 1270415307 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah. < 1270415307 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wishes it wasn't so ugly < 1270415323 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Use another language. < 1270415342 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon, then it wouldn't be a bf parser < 1270415343 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually Sgeo_ just wrote it badly :P < 1270415348 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but, say, an intercal parser < 1270415361 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, any ideas for improvements? < 1270415364 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you mean the language the parser is written in? < 1270415367 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It wouldn't be in Haskell. < 1270415375 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The language it was written in . < 1270415412 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: don't mention parsing the rest twice. using god forbid a monad would avoid such duplication < 1270415425 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EWW MONADS < 1270415434 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :codes are subsets of Q^n, where Q is some set. if we take Q to be the finite field of size q then Q^n is a vector space over Q, and linear codes of type [n, k, d]_q R are just subvector fields of Q^n of dimension k (d and R are minimum distance between two codewords and max distance between a non-codeword and the code) < 1270415435 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep your sick functors away from my categories < 1270415453 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so not very deep < 1270415466 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(have to define what you mention) < 1270415466 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Functor? < 1270415469 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hardly know her! < 1270415472 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is not sure how he'd use a monad to help here < 1270415478 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: igi < 1270415486 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Just use parsec < 1270415492 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew. < 1270415495 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Easy. < 1270415509 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ew at parsec or linear codes? < 1270415515 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Parsec. < 1270415520 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Linear codes are fine. < 1270415534 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you like coding theory (the theory of uniform length codes) then linear codes are very useful < 1270415551 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah cool < 1270415558 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like cryptography, so some information theoretic properties of coding and error correction come into platy. < 1270415559 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :play* < 1270415581 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll also do it in Parsec < 1270415586 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both ways will be available < 1270415587 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: how about whenever anyone mentions haskell you take a big gulp of shut the fuck up- in place of the current pipe the fuck up < 1270415601 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: now /that/ is pointless < 1270415604 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Or I could not. That works better for me. < 1270415612 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: was that a joke < 1270415617 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"pointless" < 1270415629 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, the non-Parsec way teaches me stuff, the Parsec way makes it a bit more useful for checking stuff < 1270415631 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because haskell can be written in pointless/POINT-FREE style < 1270415631 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: no, im not /that/ inanw yet < 1270415635 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*inane < 1270415655 0 :tombom!~tombom@86.29.71.150 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270415660 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1270415660 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1270415671 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1270415672 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know very little cryptography < 1270415681 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: Yeah but you're the most irritating person here except me < 1270415703 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: I'm also the second-coolest person here. < 1270415703 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have an age exemption; are you royalty? < 1270415709 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'll have to live with the paradox. < 1270415727 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i the coolest?!?!? < 1270415738 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a i am i ami amiai maimaimaiamiamiamai < 1270415745 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i am in awe of your cool < 1270415753 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Peanut is the coolest. < 1270415753 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AM I COOLEST I WUN BE COOLAST :<< < 1270415758 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1270415773 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm peanutacus < 1270415775 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/cTSP2.jpg < 1270415787 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: you don't have an age exception for long. < 1270415790 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*won't < 1270415796 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Queen of her domain. < 1270415800 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: orly, how about 18 < 1270415803 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how this parser handles lazy lists < 1270415810 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm, that was poorly phrased < 1270415815 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes that was < 1270415818 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you should be embarrassed < 1270415819 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex in USA = unirritatibg < 1270415819 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*exemption < 1270415823 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that may be better < 1270415826 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*unirritatibg < 1270415834 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*unirritatibg < 1270415864 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My spellchecker has now learned unirritatibg. < 1270415865 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i don't know which country you are now, although i have my guesses, but i consider 15 enough for everyone. < 1270415869 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and everything < 1270415870 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No joke < 1270415881 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to handle strings with _|_ in the middle nicely < 1270415887 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: BAH < 1270415891 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: The Swedish have a saying: If it's not in diapers, it's old enough to be stretched. < 1270415894 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i wonder why < 1270415908 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: yeah but they're perverts < 1270415915 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm no pervert < 1270415918 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Neutral perverts. < 1270415922 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tombom: 'cuz oklopol just turned 15 < 1270415935 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1270415939 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was what i was thinking < 1270415944 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1270415951 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: the swiss are more neutral and THEY DEFEND CATHOLICISM < 1270415955 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or because his boyfriend just turned 15 < 1270415961 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1270415963 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's CATHOLIC < 1270415968 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or well they share a name with the pope's guards < 1270415973 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :purity brick < 1270415977 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SAME THING; BOOYAH < 1270415977 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA < 1270415989 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pure, haskell < 1270415992 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all makes sense now < 1270416004 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway oklopol is like 52 now < 1270416016 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION calculates again < 1270416018 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes sense < 1270416023 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pedopedo < 1270416033 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hitting on my young self. < 1270416035 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;))) < 1270416036 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i do find 15-yo girls sexy like any normal male < 1270416039 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: how old are you if you can disclose < 1270416042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not pedo < 1270416047 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm 21 < 1270416048 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: 21 iirc < 1270416053 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just turned < 1270416056 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i c < 1270416060 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Like you are a vampire < 1270416061 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :had this big party < 1270416064 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Just turned" < 1270416076 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::))))))))))))))) < 1270416081 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol's bf is me he's saving my penile virginity for 15 < 1270416082 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: how old are you if you can disclose < 1270416083 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait i forgot fangs < 1270416087 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru story < 1270416108 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: 3 < 1270416119 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: next time just don't answer or say you don't want to < 1270416129 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would tell you but it may have changed since i last heard it < 1270416140 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Hasn't < 1270416141 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hate ages, should memorize years of birth instead < 1270416148 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just retina irritate Quadrescence < 1270416153 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*tryina < 1270416162 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh umm then i wish i hadn't said that < 1270416167 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Birthdays. Using coding theory. < 1270416170 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i have two numbers for your age < 1270416175 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :14 or 154 < 1270416177 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*15 < 1270416191 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has iPhone in his name, obv 14. < 1270416195 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :birthday PARADOX mathematics is WRONG < 1270416207 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what paradox? < 1270416208 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because YOU ARE EDUCATED EVIL < 1270416210 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: your accuracy is physically painful < 1270416214 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time cube < 1270416214 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Birthday paradox < 1270416220 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have heard of that < 1270416232 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was it about time dilation or something < 1270416241 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1270416241 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1270416241 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1270416245 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If it redeems me I bought this thing in 2007 when it was still uncool :| < 1270416249 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a great memory < 1270416256 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: EARTH HAS SIMULTANEOUS FOUR 25 HOUR DAYS < 1270416262 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE EDUCATED EVIL < 1270416263 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: and you waited until it was cool till you started using it? < 1270416263 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1270416266 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's... much worse < 1270416267 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://timecube.com < 1270416268 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL ELSE ARE EVIL < 1270416272 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: No < 1270416274 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1270416275 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gene ray 2012 < 1270416285 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :100% < 1270416286 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU STUPID BECAUSE OF EDUCATION LIES < 1270416290 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's more likely that there are two people in a room of.. I forgot how many .. who share a birthday than you might intuitively think < 1270416298 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1 x -1 = -1! < 1270416300 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: 23 < 1270416303 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh that's the paradox? < 1270416307 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would never have guessed < 1270416320 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As much of a paradox as banach-tatami < 1270416324 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tatami < 1270416327 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tarski < 1270416330 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tarski? < 1270416331 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At 23 the chance of there being two people who share a birthday is 50% < 1270416337 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iirc < 1270416338 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget, are larouchites rather dismissive of negative numbers < 1270416348 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then as you get more than 23, that goes up rapidly. < 1270416367 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthday_problem for epic win < 1270416368 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: iirc? you mean "if i just looked at wikipedia behind this window a second ago correctly"? < 1270416372 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 = 100% because of synchronicity < 1270416377 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence, I didn't < 1270416380 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :k < 1270416382 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jw < 1270416387 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: "epic win" oh please < 1270416390 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: No, because It old him from my cryptographic memory of awesome < 1270416396 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Yes dear? < 1270416396 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i remember 23 from reading some book in like 5th grade < 1270416400 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for that probability < 1270416407 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not what it means, but the number in that context < 1270416407 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: I want a divorce < 1270416417 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: I keep the house. < 1270416419 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And your penis. < 1270416430 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can have the kids. < 1270416431 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i used to read all sorts of crap as akid < 1270416434 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*a kid < 1270416440 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too. Like Playboy. < 1270416443 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: ok how about an anullment < 1270416463 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: It'd be just like you to not put out and call it quits. < 1270416473 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon, i heard that the library you wrote years ago is becoming an official part of the standard library for the D programming language < 1270416484 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did I ever even think you were so much to want to than do anymore like? < 1270416487 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is so cool to meet people who know that much about crypto < 1270416498 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: but that means dixon will be < 1270416501 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTERNET < 1270416504 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FAMOUS < 1270416512 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh, it's D < 1270416513 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Less Internet-famous than Q. < 1270416528 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: meh it's D, why meh < 1270416529 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D is a bad attempt at fixing C++ < 1270416533 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1270416538 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey is more famous than walter bright :p < 1270416559 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm less known than all of you put together < 1270416560 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D was a very good attempt, and rather successful in terms of the language itself, but politics and everything around it was not good so etc < 1270416580 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, D as a language is pretty bad < 1270416581 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you're -1 famous < 1270416601 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not for time cube just become -1 times more famous < 1270416606 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: agreed < 1270416610 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: D as a language is fine. It's just the implementations that suck. < 1270416617 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hodgepodge of features < 1270416618 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't seem to copy from GTK+ applications to any other application < 1270416622 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D as a language is good (pre 2.0) < 1270416627 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no D is okay as a language and the politics is okay, but it has a crappy name < 1270416629 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all apropos nothing < 1270416639 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the syntax, while easier to parse than C++'s, is even uglier < 1270416646 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wiat, it's working now? < 1270416650 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1270416653 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1270416656 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! for templates, wtf < 1270416659 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: do you think his code is now working? < 1270416660 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wiat < 1270416665 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no < 1270416668 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: No copying < 1270416669 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Fixes issues with <<<<<<<>>>>>>>. < 1270416672 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From gtk apps < 1270416676 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it that all-of-a-sudden, copy/paste from XChat is working. It never worked before < 1270416679 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon < 1270416681 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the ! is much better than <>, parsing problems or not < 1270416682 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and Pidgin) < 1270416683 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*dixon: what? < 1270416688 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: Instead !(!(!(!()))) < 1270416720 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Much better to parse. < 1270416721 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: note that << is an operator in C++, so is >>, so is <, so is > < 1270416723 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1270416729 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is ! < 1270416734 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: yes, much better to parse. Also uglier < 1270416738 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd prefer SPECS < 1270416742 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :! is prefix < 1270416748 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: yes < 1270416819 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's a fact that if someone thinks D is uglier than C++, then that someone also think bjarne stroopywoopy's mop head is hotter than raven riley after a shower < 1270416834 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything should just use Haskell's type system :D < 1270416835 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: You've inspired me to actually try to learn to /play/ something by Chopin properly :P < 1270416836 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A TRUE FACT < 1270416848 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Yes definitely < 1270416868 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially those things which require values to be a part of types < 1270416880 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, like a type like Matrix(2,3) < 1270416885 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haskell is totes appropriate for this < 1270416889 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION looks up Raven Riley for comparison < 1270416893 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell's type system is nice but hardly ideal < 1270416905 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Nnnno < 1270416934 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_ is just amazed and etc after using haskell for one day and is professing wisdom and whatever he thinks he has obtained < 1270416957 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been using Haskell for more than one day < 1270416965 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEEDS MORE LAMBDA < 1270416969 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just haven't written a large project in it before < 1270416973 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: sorry 1 week < 1270416976 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean 1/2 weeks < 1270416985 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(one half) < 1270416998 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THOU SHALT HAVE BUT ONE CHARACTER IN YOUR MACHINE ALPHABET. LAMBDA. < 1270416998 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about, I started no later than September 26, 2009 < 1270417007 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And have made Haskell puns before then < 1270417012 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Well, one pun) < 1270417014 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAMBDA LAMBDA LAMBDA, LAMBDA LAMBDA. < 1270417017 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HASKELL PUNNNNS < 1270417026 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was not the best pun tbqh < 1270417027 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Oh it seems you've started about 1 day ago < 1270417055 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, execution-wise or concept-wise? < 1270417059 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :esp. since just yesterday you said "is it worth learning haskell?!?!?!" < 1270417070 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: erm both :p < 1270417077 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::/ < 1270417090 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;( < 1270417226 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Did you know that Haskell curries? < 1270417231 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, yes < 1270417235 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1270417245 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you know that curry is *delicious*? < 1270417248 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there supposed to be a pun based on someone's name in there? < 1270417252 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, yes < 1270417276 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Howard you figure that out? < 1270417286 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the guy the language is named after, even < 1270417293 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell my anus < 1270417294 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, yeah yeah < 1270417302 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Haskell Curry. Hooray. < 1270417317 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for whom both Haskell and currying are named < 1270417335 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :schoenfinkeling is the proper term < 1270417369 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@87.113.230.70 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270417371 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only an iPhone user would schoenfinkel < 1270417378 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi :-) < 1270417384 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: wat. < 1270417404 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat. < 1270417419 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it should be "Haskelling". < 1270417427 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"In Haskell, every function is haskelled." < 1270417436 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but schoenfinkel invented it! < 1270417449 0 :MigoMipo!~migomipo@84-217-0-254.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270417453 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: untrue < 1270417456 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, well. Schoenfinkel should change his name to Haskell. < 1270417464 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A,B) -> C < 1270417466 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wasn't currying invented before Haskell? Haskell Curry did Currying stuff, not Haskell stuff < 1270417475 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: No duh < 1270417475 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think programmers should stop sullying great mathematicians by naming shitty languages after them. < 1270417489 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curry just popularised Schoenfinkeling. < 1270417501 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1270417503 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: oh, go away < 1270417513 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: no u < 1270417532 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone knows that things in math and science aren't named after the discoverer, but the researcher < 1270417537 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: our sole resident /actual/ mathematician has his name in the haskell98 report < 1270417547 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://verrahrubicon.free.fr/Combinator.pdf < 1270417558 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Much to his embarrassment, I'm sure. < 1270417563 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i agree with dixon < 1270417577 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, who? < 1270417580 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: why not ask oerjan? < 1270417588 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And he's not your sole resident mathematician. < 1270417610 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks ais523 counts as a mathematician. < 1270417624 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not if that's secretly alise. < 1270417634 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: More of a computer scientists. < 1270417653 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 is multiple people now? < 1270417654 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am a journalist < 1270417659 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dunno, the 2,3 TM work was pretty mathy < 1270417660 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: Trolltastic. < 1270417665 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: Hah. < 1270417671 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No, I'm serious. < 1270417682 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: ... Oerjan == alise wha? < 1270417691 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ais--whatever. < 1270417694 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: ais solved the 2,3 TM problem < 1270417709 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 == oerjan wha? < 1270417714 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, only Wolfram cared about the implications < 1270417719 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: == me < 1270417724 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently < 1270417733 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: ... The hell? < 1270417748 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I propose we collectively ignore dixon on the grounds that he is duck-fuckingly annoying < 1270417776 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Smith_(The_Simplest_Universal_Computer_Proof_contest_winner) Here's ais523's Wikipedia article. :P < 1270417787 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I asked if ais was alise? < 1270417812 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon prolly hates wp too :p < 1270417897 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't hate anyone. < 1270417915 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you hate entities < 1270417921 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have nothing against dixon but if everyone else ignores him i'll probably start talking to him here < 1270417927 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*stop < 1270417945 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, the world needs more sheep. Good call. < 1270417964 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok operation Duck Fucking begins, im no longer highlighting dixon at all < 1270417996 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing wrong with sheeps < 1270418013 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it somewhat humorous, ehirdiphone, that you equate ignoring me to bestiality. < 1270418028 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION Fuchs some Duchs < 1270418031 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No offense to anyone, but no academic institution would really accept this as something: http://www.wolframscience.com/prizes/tm23/TM23Proof.pdf < 1270418037 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thx iPhone spell corrector) < 1270418042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you wouldn't stop talking to someone if everyone else just saw your half of all your conversations? < 1270418051 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: he wasn't exactly trying for that < 1270418054 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not just talk in pm and spam your half on the channel then < 1270418064 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess that's more work < 1270418069 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he had his proof wolfram demanded shit he collated it < 1270418076 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tada money < 1270418090 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he was just playing around to find a proof < 1270418096 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: why? (i haven't read it) < 1270418101 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well some of it) < 1270418109 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION doesn't ignore people < 1270418111 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: idk becuz i sed so < 1270418115 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's not in Computer Modern < 1270418129 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Yeah, it's up to Wolfram's standards, not anyone sane's standards. :P < 1270418129 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: No, I'd keep talking just to annoy the people who were ignoring others. But I'm a bastard. < 1270418163 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i might too, dunno < 1270418166 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Amuway it's being published in Complex Systems < 1270418179 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly < 1270418185 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a wolfram journa < 1270418185 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :L < 1270418192 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Last I heard they keep asking him to change it < 1270418202 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Been years now < 1270418208 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Prolly won't ever get published < 1270418234 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh it says "I" instead of "we" < 1270418243 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore unpublishable < 1270418293 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1270418304 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it has more to do with the Impact headings and whatnot. < 1270418368 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he just used the default openoffice style iirc :p < 1270418378 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so probably not impact < 1270418423 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really? Looks like Impact Condensed :\ < 1270418433 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it looks like shit < 1270418444 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(literally, look from a distance) < 1270418472 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well of course it looks like shit, it's not monospaced!) < 1270418503 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: You're just looking at the Perl code. < 1270418504 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Yeah so what < 1270418504 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We're talking maths :P < 1270418522 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: oops yeah you're right < 1270418527 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan used latex so mush < 1270418528 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nyah < 1270418533 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Math can be beautiful. < 1270418535 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: actually we are talking about some computer science < 1270418535 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1270418548 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's even more beautiful when typeset properly. < 1270418569 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: oerjan is no CSer you whore < 1270418577 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1270418577 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1270418592 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was kidding anyway since CS is a subset of math < 1270418613 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subfield, it retains its arithmetic and is closed under... I'm kidding. < 1270418618 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah :P < 1270418622 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also oklopol http://www.file-pasta.com/file/0/funktio_rec.pdf < 1270418647 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :closed under actual physical COMPUTERS OMG < 1270418672 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much prettier < 1270418715 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info < 1270418738 0 :ehirdiphone!~ehirdipho@82.132.248.26 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270418778 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my dream is to become such a great mathematician my papers will be published in journals even though i mandate they be printed in monospace. < 1270418805 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well actually my dream is to ever get anything published anywhere, but anyway < 1270418838 0 :charlls!charlls@186.72.46.162 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270418846 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :submit it to Annals of Mathematics then Rejecta Mathematica < 1270418851 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infallible < 1270418861 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep your Masterpieces in a Personal Journal. < 1270418868 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon++++++++++++++++++++++++ < 1270418876 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: you are zeilberger < 1270418880 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: What about if you demand that they be in monospace with *unrendered* TeX? < 1270418881 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, so? < 1270418883 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this explains EVERYTHING < 1270418892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1270418907 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1270418908 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i'm fine with math notation < 1270418923 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well most of it < 1270418926 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too. < 1270418940 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except pochhammer. < 1270418949 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pochhammer l o l < 1270418956 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like it apart from the inconsistent/ambiguous bits < 1270418960 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wwwwait < 1270419115 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there's some abuse of notation with matrices and unit vectors too, but nothing too bad. < 1270419157 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|x| is crappy but most of the rest is fine < 1270419178 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1 massively ambiguous 2 starter = terminator) < 1270419185 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|x| is amazing < 1270419190 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|x| is wonderful < 1270419198 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol. < 1270419202 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :||x|| is slightly annoying < 1270419220 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not so much when typeset, but in IRC, etc. < 1270419232 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :||x||, for all those negative cardinalities < 1270419246 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1270419251 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wat < 1270419256 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely! < 1270419266 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, hi there < 1270419267 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: c-h b c-x o c-s eval c-s etc. automatically translating scheme to human language < 1270419276 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : AnMaster: You've inspired me to actually try to learn to /play/ something by Chopin properly :P <-- hahah < 1270419280 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1270419291 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1270419291 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1270419293 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if x is a set and its cardinality is negative, you need || < 1270419294 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1270419296 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :||.|| < 1270419303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, how rude :P < 1270419311 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is? < 1270419316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind :P < 1270419321 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i will < 1270419334 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :innuendo < 1270419335 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there < 1270419362 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :||.|| looks like very squashed breasts obvs < 1270419378 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, goatse? < 1270419380 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone has never seen boobs < 1270419389 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you don't have enough imagination < 1270419402 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence has never seen ||.|| shaped breasts, ha! < 1270419407 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crazy man! < 1270419409 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor have I < 1270419416 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or have you < 1270419420 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1270419425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coreutils... GNU coreutils... < 1270419427 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: you have never seen boobs < 1270419438 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have never before seen a 782 line "cat" program. < 1270419444 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence, he knows how to use internet. I doubt he hasn't. < 1270419454 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Stuck in a loop there < 1270419454 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: tru < 1270419460 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :USE INTERNET < 1270419462 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: underflow < 1270419483 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I have! Last time coreutils cat was mentioned in here. < 1270419497 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hahah. < 1270419509 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DO YOU MAKE A FREAKING IMPLEMENTATION OF CAT THAT COMPLEX < 1270419522 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, tell me < 1270419525 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what does it do < 1270419526 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IDK ADDING ERROR CHECKING AND OTHER THINGS THAT COULD FUCK UP IN C < 1270419534 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cats are complex creatures. < 1270419544 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Hah. < 1270419550 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, yes, what with all the quantum state you have to emulate < 1270419553 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: ... Significantly more than file concatentation. < 1270419554 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: 782 lines? you write really bad C < 1270419556 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in case someone puts it in a box < 1270419565 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have seen more boobs online than irl < 1270419572 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does rather a lot of manual buffering, as well. < 1270419572 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you could try mmap()ing the file if possible < 1270419576 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: shicking < 1270419577 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope this isn't too much of a shock < 1270419579 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that should add some 20 lines at least < 1270419579 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Shocking < 1270419583 0 :iamtheobject!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1270419592 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: That's true of anyone. The difference being you have seen boobs IRL. The same cannot be said by ehird. < 1270419596 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: i am v bad at c < 1270419599 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, "shicking"? XD < 1270419602 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That would be saner than what this is doing. < 1270419612 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Manual. Buffering. < 1270419612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, then what *is* it doing < 1270419617 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what the hell < 1270419623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*why* < 1270419627 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cat is so well written < 1270419631 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Because." < 1270419634 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's something called *portable C* < 1270419645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but libc has buffering... < 1270419651 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon and Quadrescence are currently embracing one another discussing their next contrarian move < 1270419655 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: And then there's something called "crazy". < 1270419661 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sweet, really < 1270419671 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, and it happens this is just written in portable, robust C < 1270419676 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're allergic to agreeing with anyone else < 1270419677 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something that is apparently foreign to you all < 1270419692 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope you are joking < 1270419697 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Careful, we may include sardonicism. < 1270419703 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also cat is afaik written for posix systems < 1270419710 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I am definitely joking because that would be a funny joke < 1270419727 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: The point is that there are no C systems without buffered IO. < 1270419728 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah thought so < 1270419748 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ds9k? < 1270419754 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: actually, you're wrong < 1270419762 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fine, "almost no". < 1270419768 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Few" < 1270419769 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, correction: "no hosted" < 1270419770 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of the standard library stuff is *optional* < 1270419771 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not any one with libc. < 1270419776 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The guys ate RedHat generally know what they're doing. < 1270419779 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence, freestanding ones < 1270419780 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-e < 1270419781 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Buffered IO is K&R. < 1270419790 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: K&R is not standard < 1270419803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon, I don't think that is good for your digestion < 1270419809 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Me either :< < 1270419813 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What I'm saying is that "dear God, it's a feature of C that is on any sane system and most insane ones." < 1270419814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon, :/ < 1270419846 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's all this about maniacs thinking they're going to be using a C system where stdio is unbuffered? < 1270419847 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And it was probably written at least 100 years ago. < 1270419850 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What I'm saying is that it's better to support insane systems to than not at all for a library that is supposed to be portable across systems < 1270419871 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, look. And this is using < 1270419884 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*read* instead of any buffered IO. < 1270419891 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that if you manage to find a system for which the C library does not have buffered stdio, that will be the LEAST of your problems. < 1270419906 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that read is actually less portable than buffered IO. < 1270419907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon, Yes it is well known Ada Lovelace wrote the first version of GNU cat! < 1270419909 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that it almost certainly won't have a filesystem, processes, or more than 256 bytes of memory are more significant. < 1270419928 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, wonderful < 1270419935 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, is it using write() or? < 1270419945 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: A standard is made for a reason < 1270419947 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: read() and write(). < 1270419953 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sigh < 1270419963 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which are common to all POSIX systems, sure, but are not standard C. < 1270419967 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's made to be followed, not made to be seen as a piece of paper and then users decide what is sane < 1270419988 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course a specific C function is less portable than a general implementation strategy ;-P < 1270420010 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"read" is portable than the buffered IO primitives in ISO C. < 1270420024 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ^less < 1270420032 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: Dankon. < 1270420056 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, all the manual buffering increases complexity and reduces portability. < 1270420070 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's fucking madness. Sheer fucking madness. < 1270420075 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you forgot a word there < 1270420078 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" "read" is portable than the buffered IO primitives in ISO C." < 1270420082 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more or less? < 1270420085 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :portability is completely irrelevant < 1270420090 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah true it is definitely fucking madness < 1270420099 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: less. < 1270420101 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd write cat in like 30 lines lol < 1270420102 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1270420107 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30!? < 1270420111 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1270420112 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd write it in two < 1270420118 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If in C) < 1270420121 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1270420122 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: More complex, less portable, harder to read, less efficient. < 1270420124 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: /msg < 1270420134 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: go do some benchmarks < 1270420139 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then tell me about efficiency < 1270420140 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Less efficient? < 1270420150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, mhm < 1270420161 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This buffering is also done stupidly. < 1270420220 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that it *matters*, but damn. < 1270420245 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seriously were the coders drunk or something? < 1270420259 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: GNU. < 1270420264 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ballmer peak < 1270420284 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Patch it? < 1270420323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if they would accept a patch for it < 1270420342 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1270420365 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not. < 1270420367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone, you are probably correct < 1270420386 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nah the implementation is so shitty why wouldn't any sane person accept a patch < 1270420400 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1270420403 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you made a funny webcomic about it though, they might. < 1270420406 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :read /msg people < 1270420409 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Worked for XKCD. < 1270420418 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible buffering technique < 1270420420 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :700 lines < 1270420439 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not portable < 1270420440 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :inefficient < 1270420456 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my god shut up < 1270420481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main(){while(!feof(stdin))putchar(getchar());} < 1270420482 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1270420482 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Done < 1270420483 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: http://codepad.org/yG9ubkE2 obv we should've switched to BSD < 1270420498 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: That's not standard C. < 1270420499 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: aren't you interested in portability and buffering? < 1270420512 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You may get an error that isn't EOF < 1270420522 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am only interested in telling people to shut up < 1270420524 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Meh. < 1270420525 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1270420534 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1270420543 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine'd've been {int c; while((c = getchar()) != EOF) putchar(c);} < 1270420554 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you want your code to be correct, you don't use C < 1270420563 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: that is 250 lines that is terrible inefficient etc < 1270420571 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both aren't standard C. < 1270420598 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's nonstandard? < 1270420616 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main() is assumed int and must return a value. < 1270420623 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nonstandard C can do computation with infintesimals < 1270420631 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mine was just a compound statement, not the whole thing < 1270420635 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1270420661 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: But it was in { } which was assumed to be main. < 1270420667 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1270420670 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In standard C99 you don't have to explicitly return a value < 1270420687 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :main must return < 1270420692 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both aren't standard C, but one is! < 1270420693 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not in C99. < 1270420696 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahaha < 1270420722 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes you do. < 1270420729 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, you don't. < 1270420738 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :while(!feof(stdin)) putchar(getchar()); also has the problem that feof(stdin) returns true only after getchar() has actually returned EOF once, so you get an extra character at the end. < 1270420741 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if only there were specs where you could check this stuff < 1270420747 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Further, the standard restricts main() to main(void) and main(int argc, char **argv) < 1270420753 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In C99, when control flow reaches the end of main, the return value is 0. This is an exception to the norm. < 1270420758 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Really, I left out #include and int main(void) and return 0; because I couldn't be bothered to type them out) < 1270420762 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though main() is "acceptable" < 1270420765 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not recommended < 1270420787 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1270420789 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways. How's about non-retarded arguments? < 1270420794 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1270420797 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like your mom < 1270420798 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Love me some non-retarded arguments. < 1270420805 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like acne and boils < 1270420817 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like fax's fagoo < 1270420874 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which do you think is better, O(n/\epsilon^2) or O(n^2/\epsilon)? < 1270420883 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(ISO/IEC 9899:TC2 5.1.2.2.3 "Program termination": "reaching the } that terminates the main function returns a value of 0.") < 1270420892 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\epsilon is the parameter of the approximation, n is the size of input < 1270420907 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Yes, but still not recommended. < 1270420920 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: Yeah, shaddup. < 1270420921 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your recommendations weren't under consideration. :-P < 1270420931 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not his recommendation < 1270420949 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend you all STFU < 1270420955 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1270421040 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that was in the technical corrigendum number 2, which is why dixon said otherwise, because it's not in the standard prior to that < 1270421065 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah, shaddup < 1270421070 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb ham < 1270421075 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG I WANT HAM < 1270421078 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: We're in agreement, then. < 1270421124 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: It's not in the TC2 changes, I'm pretty sure it was there from the original 9899 onwards... < 1270421127 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want anyone to shut up, so more oil to the flames: the } thing is in the original ISO/IEC 9899:1999 standard, too. < 1270421142 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, it's not in the TC1 changes either. < 1270421206 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it's 1999-specific < 1270421228 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++98 had it, and it's something that would only have been considered as a legacy feature < 1270421239 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It certainly wasn't in C89 or C90. < 1270421267 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I don't know why they'd put it in TC2 if it was in the original draft. < 1270421324 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :9899:TC2 meant the original standard with TC up to 2 applied to it. < 1270421374 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so < 1270421374 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there's any version of "cat" that has special-case code to use sendfile(2) on systems that provide a suitable one. (I'm also not sure if any do; Linux's out_fd must be a socket, and I'm not sure it handles well the case where the amount of input bytes isn't known.) < 1270421426 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The corrigenda are individually referred to as ISO/IEC 9899/Cor.#:200# < 1270421436 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1270421444 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISO/IEC 9899:1999/Cor.#:200# < 1270421457 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not believe there is a term to indicated the consolidated Standard < 1270421482 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not care whether it was correct, I said it's what it meant and I know what I meant :-P < 1270421502 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ISO/IEC 9899:TC2" was from the header of http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/wg14/www/docs/n1124.pdf < 1270421508 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The WG14/N1124 draft pdf has... right. < 1270421520 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant-ninjutsu is too fast. < 1270421528 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite. < 1270421537 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways < 1270421545 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Speaking of C99, does anyone know a compiler that implements the full standard? < 1270421563 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cormac or something? < 1270421566 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost does it < 1270421568 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sun Studio, supposedly. < 1270421572 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sun's supposedly does < 1270421589 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the FDIS for ISO/IEC 14882:1998 included the text about implicitly returning 0 after main. This is not a feature that would have been considered except as a legacy feature from C, and due to the timing it could not have been a C99-only feature < 1270421595 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :supposedly sun does that < 1270421613 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUN < 1270421618 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... supposedly < 1270421659 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: It was a compiler extension long before it became standard, but it was never standard. < 1270421665 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fucking hate GNU compilers. < 1270421686 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: like I said, I cannot imagine this feature being included in C++ unless it was standard in C prior < 1270421700 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"before it became standard, but it was never standard" < 1270421711 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1270421725 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh please guys, dixon is just changing his opinions according to ours < 1270421734 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :First it was LOL GNU IS ROBUST < 1270421739 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, what you're saying is that it is not standard and that it was an extension before it was standard. < 1270421745 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then LOL CRAZY CODE < 1270421747 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're an idiot, and /ignore. < 1270421756 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah wait are you saying dixon is trolling < 1270421757 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: To C89, yes. < 1270421764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: Nah, really? < 1270421769 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah woah that is a pretty strong statement < 1270421775 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: GOSH < 1270421797 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You can't honestly think implicitly returning 0 was in the C89 standard. < 1270421800 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately, I cannot see a public list of DRs for C90 < 1270421820 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, let us discuss C90, not C89 < 1270421828 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bet dixon doesn't even know there was a C94; well, almost. < 1270421919 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C89 and C90 are equivalent < 1270421948 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1270421993 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do I generate numerals from 000-999 in bash? < 1270422007 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jot perhaps? < 1270422029 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: seq < 1270422039 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks < 1270422056 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a nice command < 1270422147 0 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-104.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270422147 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: are you sure all your insults to dixon are justified? < 1270422156 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1270422187 0 :Mibbigal!~62d188c5@gateway/web/freenode/x-sfzmrrxcqpfqodep JOIN :#esoteric < 1270422203 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bak < 1270422234 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants a 'wgrep' command < 1270422240 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also btw C89 is the best < 1270422241 0 :charlls!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1270422248 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C99 is only good for crypto libs < 1270422250 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's it < 1270422253 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no exceptions < 1270422254 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: w? < 1270422263 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: And I wasn't trolling. It's well-known that several compiler extensions were in place before and after the C89/90 standards were ratified. Allowing 'void main()' and 'implicitly returning 0' were part of those extensions. They're still enabled in the GNU compiler by default. Yes, C99 made this 'standard' behavior, but it's still not recommended. Your functions should always return a value if they're stated to. < 1270422265 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But seq(1) is not POSIX! How can you suggest such a thing! < 1270422269 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Sorry, I like for(int i = ...) < 1270422274 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Nor's bash. < 1270422280 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I feel sorry for you too < 1270422294 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int i = 0;for(...) is dumb. < 1270422302 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes, though bash was already given in the question. < 1270422307 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int i; for (i = 0; ...) is not, however < 1270422320 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyways. Imma go do something more intelligent than talk to you. < 1270422326 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1270422332 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like feign intelligence. < 1270422361 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The irony of him ignoring me because his misunderstood what I said is just precious. < 1270422361 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I am going to assume you've never written a compiler before and wouldn't understand why declaring variables at the start of a block is good, and also beneficial for those who maintain. < 1270422374 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he* < 1270422397 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't understand it at all < 1270422405 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm oh < 1270422428 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well maybe i wouldn't understand it either < 1270422460 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i know for a fact maintainability is really uninteresting < 1270422472 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tru < 1270422500 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wanna write big programs, you're just fucking stupid imo < 1270422507 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1270422515 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not write small ones and not write big ones < 1270422517 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The maintainability thing is also debatable; a for loop index variable isn't that much more unclear, no matter whether it's defined where the loop start or at the beginning of some arbitrary block where the loop happens to be in. < 1270422537 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ummm < 1270422559 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: suppose you are changing variables from int to long in order to use arrays larger than 4GB < 1270422568 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But god damnit you can't seem to find that bug in your program < 1270422573 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :programming language trolls handbook, page 12, section 3: "maintainability is a good one to use because if anyone disagrees you can just tell them they haven't worked on any REAL programs" < 1270422588 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax has never written in C, btw < 1270422597 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You haven't worked on any REAL programs. < 1270422599 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's funny... < 1270422609 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also fax forgot an apostrophe in "trolls" < 1270422613 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Shouldn't you be using size_t to begin with?-) (There's a huge mess of a thread in comp.lang.c unmoderated about that.) < 1270422619 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: no < 1270422627 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I work on a "real" program, in development since 1977.. and it is the biggest pipe of shit code I've ever seen < 1270422636 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :**pile < 1270422639 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you use size_t for loop indexes? It can be negative. < 1270422647 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsigned int all the way, baby. < 1270422654 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :size_t is unsigned, you know. < 1270422657 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ssize_t is signed. < 1270422662 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1270422672 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And noone argue with me saying my situation is impractical because it indeed is! < 1270422715 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: See /msh < 1270422721 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : /msg < 1270422775 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Can't you just play along? This is all part of an elaborate plot to annoy the hell out of ehirdiphone. < 1270422787 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, having said that.. the program works well.. but you just have to be a little flexible and not assume a single programming style throughout < 1270422809 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: I'm not annoyed. < 1270422815 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the biggest problem with programs like that is idiots that can't be flexible < 1270422826 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: tru < 1270422830 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fax has never written a program before) < 1270422836 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they spend years trying to save themselves from getting into fights by making up 'guidlines' and stuff < 1270422860 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(fax has never followed a guideline before) < 1270422899 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guidelines change.. so I don't see how that helps long term < 1270422913 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: really? < 1270422929 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, guidelines never work out in the open source world where there are no dictators < 1270422935 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: You have to be like the ISO people and have your guidelines change once a decade or so. < 1270422944 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes.. short term it helps but long term you're still going to have a mess < 1270422970 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then it all kinda smooths out, because only one compiler (Sun, apparently) fully supports your changes 11 years after you make them. < 1270422981 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahaha < 1270423022 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ping < 1270423032 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if you find yourself unstandardized, then you get the mess of incompatibility that is D, Python, Java, etc. < 1270423038 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahahahhahahaha i found a video of fax on youtube < 1270423040 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo hi fizzie < 1270423041 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi fizzie hi fizzie < 1270423066 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeK1g2L1C6o < 1270423080 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info < 1270423121 0 :ehirdiphone!~ehirdipho@82.132.139.144 JOIN :#esoteric < 1270423133 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how they talked their mom into doing this. < 1270423155 0 :augur!~augur@c-68-54-80-152.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1270423170 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up augur < 1270423180 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1270423187 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone fax hates more than me? Pleasure to meet you. < 1270423188 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax = pthug? :( < 1270423208 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1270423238 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nevermind, sad face and lack of retort means he's a pussy. < 1270423242 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dixon: oblique raises [in the] neuromuscular junction < 1270423260 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: Bicept Lift Ankle Krossover < 1270423271 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's Krossover with a K < 1270423274 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::3 < 1270423290 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to again focus on Brainfuck < 1270423307 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm amazed what bad trolls you are. < 1270423310 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: sexy < 1270423315 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i took my pants of < 1270423316 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*off < 1270423326 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: me too < 1270423337 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you think we would have talked to you if we had anything interesting to discuss? < 1270423353 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: :o < 1270423355 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Aw, I was hoping that to be some sort of "pants of X" special-pants thing. < 1270423363 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION lays on oklopol < 1270423369 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: this is also worth seeing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MjTb5A68VA&feature=channel < 1270423373 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hi < 1270423374 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets augur off < 1270423377 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f u < 1270423380 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1270423383 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol is MINE >O < 1270423386 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehirdiphone: hey < 1270423399 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: maybe. if you're nice. < 1270423405 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um but augur you are mine therefore by the law of transitivity................................................... < 1270423415 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1270423415 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since when am i yours >| < 1270423428 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, possession is not a transitive relation. < 1270423438 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infact, it's antitransitive < 1270423440 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh since I beat some sense into you about rewrite rules < 1270423449 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU? hah! < 1270423460 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're the one who was all like "yeah ok i see your point ill take that into consideration" < 1270423484 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ehirdiphone: Do you think we would have talked to you if we had anything interesting to discuss?" <<< what do you mean? < 1270423489 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well yeah I had to be respectful since last time I was not respectful fax got super pissed and began to talk shit about me < 1270423501 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are there older women in that vid too? < 1270423557 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah younger women and pencils with faces. you know what i like man < 1270423584 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtfbbq < 1270423674 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pedopen's signature of approval < 1270423737 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://image.fpsbanana.com/ico/sprays/pedobear4dzsmalll.jpg < 1270423862 0 :Mibbigal!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :mibygl < 1270423899 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have a suggestion for a good high-school level algebra book? < 1270423915 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my suggestion is no one learns high school level algebra < 1270423937 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's the author? < 1270423954 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone is their own author in that one < 1270423964 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no wait < 1270423977 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe more like no one. < 1270424016 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: JO < 1270424030 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1270424040 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1270424070 0 :Quadrescence!~Quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence JOIN :#esoteric < 1270424138 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hay guise < 1270424139 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome back, Quadrescence. < 1270424150 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We missed you. < 1270424166 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks < 1270424177 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't worry oerjan we noticed you too < 1270424243 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh! < 1270424249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION tries to be invisible < 1270424272 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it says i have the +i flag, why isn't it working? < 1270424454 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, i am not ashamed to be mentioned in the haskell report. although the reasons _are_ trivial corrections. < 1270424466 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION skips the rest of the logs < 1270424487 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: ping < 1270424587 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's alright, we know The Truth(R)(TM)(C) < 1270424595 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you shouldn't, there was this fascinating conversation about all sorts of things < 1270424651 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it was wonderful. Especially the part about measure spaces, linear coding, and compiler extensions. < 1270424688 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually part of both conversations was about variables < 1270424716 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're an important topic. < 1270424728 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variables don't exist < 1270424773 0 :dixon!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your mood is a variable. < 1270424775 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afk < 1270425222 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, uh. Do complain to me if you feel like what will follow is a miscarriage of justice or anything such. I don't promise I'll be awake very much longer, though; but then again, this is just an IRC channel, not the end of the world. < 1270425241 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also preliminary apologies if I mess up chanserv manipulatations somehow. It's amazing what I can mess up. < 1270425252 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm. Besides dealing with consecutive + and -, and > and <, what optimizations can I easily make < 1270425271 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is so soft and sensitive < 1270425280 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: printing using printf or equivalent, and not simple char in and char out < 1270425281 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously, two loops means the second can be discarded < 1270425310 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence, I'm talking about manipulating the BF at this point, not the interpreter < 1270425323 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idgi < 1270425351 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optimize :: [BFCmd] -> [BFCmd] < 1270425361 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+o fizzie < 1270425376 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Chanserv is hard. Let's go shopping! < 1270425387 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :—and neutralised... < 1270425394 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I don't really know why I bother with it anyway. < 1270425397 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the Lord Pilot. < 1270425397 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...why would dixon be kicked? < 1270425404 0 :dixon!~dixon@unaffiliated/reikon JOIN :#esoteric < 1270425404 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+b *!*@unaffiliated/reikon < 1270425404 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: ... < 1270425406 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You missed one. < 1270425427 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ban me too plz < 1270425453 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quadrescence: I'm trying, I'm trying. It's not as easy as it looks like. < 1270425466 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any day now < 1270425478 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have a very difficult nickname to spell. < 1270425483 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1270425485 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :q u a d r e s c e n c e < 1270425498 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I got it now. < 1270425503 0 :Quadrescence!~Quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence JOIN :#esoteric < 1270425504 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+b *!*@unaffiliated/quadrescence < 1270425513 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That "akick" thing is really brain-dead. < 1270425529 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why can't it just kickban people, instead of just adding them to some sort of mysterious list that is only checked at join-time. < 1270425546 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And nothing of value was lost. < 1270425551 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beats me. < 1270425553 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thanks fizzie! < 1270425566 0 :ehirdiphone!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you considered therapy for your op allergy? :D < 1270425580 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe there's some sort of topical cream I could use.