< 1271290052 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1271290068 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1271290665 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 258 seconds < 1271291265 0 :sebbu!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-85-216.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1271292245 0 :Sgeo|web!~897d691a@gateway/web/freenode/x-rjmvayokjisinocz JOIN :#esoteric < 1271292294 0 :Sgeo|web!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Our Data Structure class just went over inorder printing of sorted binary trees [print the tree on the left, print the value, print the tree on the right]. We did NOT go over recursion before this. < 1271292325 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1271293351 0 :augur!~augur@c-68-54-80-152.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271293527 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1271293794 0 :Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-50-69.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1271293998 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1271294966 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1271295669 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1271295711 0 :Sgeo|web!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1271296407 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ping < 1271296417 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: iteration obv < 1271296528 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: Pong < 1271296559 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, nevermind. I realized that what I was about to say was wrong < 1271297270 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1271298802 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271299350 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Arrrrrgh. < 1271299356 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most is the WORST PAGER EVER. < 1271299543 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How so? < 1271299553 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like more only more so? < 1271299689 0 :Oranjer1!~HP_Admini@adsl-34-17-217.cae.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271299804 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1271299904 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more is a better pager than most. < 1271299910 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Friggin MORE is a better pager than most. < 1271299916 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But less is so much better than either. < 1271300194 0 :Oranjer1!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Oranjer2 < 1271300206 0 :Oranjer2!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Oranjer3 < 1271300470 0 :Oranjer3!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Oranjer4 < 1271300966 0 :Oranjer4!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Oranjer < 1271301046 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1271301367 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1271301950 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271305498 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-9-50.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271306478 0 :augur!~augur@c-68-54-80-152.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271307082 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-48-53.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1271307246 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1271310348 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1271310542 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : But less is so much better than either. <-- is there any "least"? < 1271310761 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, is http://www.frappr.com/esolang down? < 1271311016 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is frappr? the map thingy? < 1271311028 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if so yes iirc they shut down < 1271311120 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1271311151 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how esoteric does a language have to be to be discussable on #esoteric? < 1271311174 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't say, and I'm leaving for university now < 1271311180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cya this evening < 1271311189 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(early morning atm for me) < 1271311203 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1271312231 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1271312251 0 :augur!~augur@c-68-54-80-152.hsd1.md.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271312251 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1271312281 0 :adu!~ajr@pool-173-66-9-50.washdc.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271312856 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@75-106-123-198.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271313161 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I am leaving. You are about to explode. < 1271313299 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1271313299 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :*.net *.split < 1271313613 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271313761 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1271313902 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1271315233 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1271315250 0 :adu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: adu < 1271316698 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: lament < 1271317076 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1271318399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1271318400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1271319589 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1271319743 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : But less is so much better than either. < 1271319765 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't tried that "either" pager you're speaking about. < 1271319782 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or "most", for that matter) < 1271319823 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : how esoteric does a language have to be to be discussable on #esoteric? < 1271319838 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not much. now if you mean to be _on topic_, on the other hand < 1271319960 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271320033 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we're only on topic about half the time, and most of that seems to be befunge these days. < 1271320042 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1271320074 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1271320095 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's too early again < 1271320415 0 :Slereah!~butt@ANantes-259-1-25-238.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1271321565 0 :aschueler!~alec@host86-167-40-196.range86-167.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1271322334 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1271323615 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271323678 0 :Alex3012_!~chatzilla@ool-18b989d3.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271323755 0 :Alex3012!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1271323757 0 :Alex3012_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Alex3012 < 1271323780 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1271323984 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :proof tableax! < 1271323987 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tableaux, even < 1271326003 0 :lereah_!~lereah@nanpc301.in2p3.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1271327348 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1271330950 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1271332771 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1271336309 0 :kar8nga!~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271337234 0 :Asztal!~asztal@host86-169-7-57.range86-169.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1271337631 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1271341310 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@75-106-123-198.cust.wildblue.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271341505 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mathnerd314: If it's as esoteric as Perl, then it's allowed. < 1271341511 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least as* < 1271341615 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION holds his breath and installs Eclipse and the JDK < 1271342905 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1271343201 0 :TheName!~chatzilla@195.110.7.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1271343663 0 :TheName!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539] < 1271344435 0 :MigoMipo!~MigoMipo@84-217-15-70.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271345531 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1271347028 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1271347110 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1271347461 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1271347552 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271347670 0 :cheater2!~cheater@ip-80-226-234-37.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1271347706 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net < 1271348114 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1271348195 0 :cheater2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1271348463 0 :cheater2!~cheater@ip-80-226-25-11.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1271350154 0 :MigoMipo!~MigoMipo@84-217-15-70.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271352043 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@129.241.210.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1271353642 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1271355401 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1271355651 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1271357354 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1271359645 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. And... I wrote another Brainfuck interpreter. < 1271359648 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No idea why. < 1271359657 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except that it's much simpler than my previous attempt. < 1271359671 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also a bit faster. < 1271359675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sprunge.us/BVTg < 1271359764 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :May not work on systems with odd pointer representations. < 1271360308 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, clang appears to handle that better than GCC. < 1271360560 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : May not work on systems with odd pointer representations. <-- ? < 1271360575 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I'm doing moderately odd pointer tricks. < 1271360592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well summary, I'm a bit too busy to read it. Have a deadline tomorrow < 1271360596 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I'm storing data inside of an array of pointers. < 1271360598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a lot still to write < 1271360608 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1271360612 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, what < 1271360694 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: After the address for +, -, >, or < is the number that those should add to p or *p. < 1271360697 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like that volcano ash spread further < 1271360708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23824710-flights-grounded-as-ash-from-icelandic-volcano-closes-uk-airports.do < 1271360719 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And after [ or ] is the offset in the array that it should jump to. < 1271360748 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(upon entering interp, this is then just computed into a direct address) < 1271360849 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(basic summary: I wrote 1/2 of a Forth) < 1271361033 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, some Finnish news-site said we'll get some ashfall too around 03am. < 1271361058 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, Sweden affected too < 1271361064 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and did you get any ash rain? < 1271361100 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't notice anything, what with all the rain rain < 1271361105 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, didn't do befunge98? < 1271361116 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Nope. < 1271361124 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, gave up? Plan to do it later? < 1271361128 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it would be bound to that. < 1271361129 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Later. < 1271361150 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, acidic rain probably < 1271361159 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe < 1271361196 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is volcanic ash basic < 1271361197 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, the particles are tiny, iirc between 3 microns and 2 mm. And mostly the smaller ones stay aloft longer < 1271361205 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1271361209 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and my wife's father is due to fly back home Birmingham-Stockholm-Helsinki or some-such in a day or two, but now it's a bit uncertain as to how that'll go. < 1271361224 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it contains sulphur and fluorine amongst other nasty things < 1271361244 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: probably good fertilizer :D < 1271361247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, he could take the train < 1271361254 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, *not* the fluorine < 1271361256 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely not < 1271361299 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, in fact various fluorine diseases have been connected with the local area of volcano eruptions before according to wikipedia. < 1271361305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(read that yesterday) < 1271361321 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1271361360 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, killing some 50%+ of the lifestock during an eruption somewhere during 1800-1850 on Iceland < 1271361374 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and lots of people both directly and indirectly < 1271361380 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've read about that one < 1271361389 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The train takes quite a while; may be faster just to wait. < 1271361443 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, heh. He could take that English channel tunnel, then TGV, then whatever Germany have then X2000, then the Åland ferry < 1271361466 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait the one i recall was in the 1700s < 1271361483 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact it was speculated it helped bring about the french revolution < 1271361521 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, and I misremembered the date of that one on Iceland. http://www.fof.se/tidning/2007/7/mystisk-vulkansjuka-far-sin-losning < 1271361545 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laki#1783_eruption < 1271361623 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, there were several similar ones both before and after < 1271361666 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: apparently the english channel trains were quickly full-booked < 1271361688 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, heh. What about ferries then? < 1271361690 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hear Germany's trains aren't actually especially fast. They don't have any (or many) special high-speed lines, like France does for TGV. < 1271361707 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, hire a car? < 1271361708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't know, it was just a reddit comment < 1271361727 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Didn't they get a train stuck in the chunnel not long ago, too? I seem to vaguely remember. < 1271361895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no idea < 1271361947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rings a vague bell, or maybe it was a fire < 1271362047 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Four Eurostar trains stuck in Channel tunnel" http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/dec/19/four-eurostar-trains-break-down < 1271362060 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe not quite so recent. < 1271362060 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1271362079 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it's less than a year ago, that's recent outside the internet :D < 1271362126 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The trains are believed to have failed as they left the cold air in northern France and entered the warmer air inside the tunnel." Yes, that sounds like the trains here, always broken due weather problems. < 1271362197 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think finland would be used to weather. but i shouldn't talk, this year has been scandalous for norwegian trains < 1271362267 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that is the sentiment here too that they should know this stuff already. < 1271362410 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's been a lot of problems with the Pendolino tilting high-speed trains that were bought from Italy, but I guess it's reasonable they haven't considered real winters down there. < 1271362447 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, for Swedish trains too < 1271362479 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure during a heavy snowstorm it may be delayed a bit. But it shouldn't take as long to clean things up after < 1271362604 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and sure, UK and France you could understand have problems with weather. But the Nordic countries? WTH < 1271362819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation/vaac/data/VAG_1271354037.png <-- heh < 1271362826 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i guess it's relative - _noone_ prepares for weather a little worse than usual, wherever they are < 1271362837 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hah < 1271362856 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, why couldn't you just build extremely redundant systems. < 1271362873 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, how many roofs caved in in Norway this winter? < 1271362885 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite a few of large buildings like warehouses and such in Sweden this winter < 1271362893 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least one, i think < 1271362895 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except in north Sweden, hardly any there < 1271362911 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because they *expect* bad weather < 1271362937 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although with roofs and snow it's probably often because of lousy snow removal < 1271362981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh yeah that too. Did I mention I saw someone using a snow blower on a warehouse during the winter? < 1271362990 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and I have the perfect solution < 1271363009 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: very nice of that cloud to sweep southwards like that just to get moscow :D < 1271363020 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1271363044 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, build the roofs so you can drive full sized snow plows on them to clear away the snow. Then you won't *need* to clear away the snow because they will stand for about anything < 1271363055 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..right < 1271363062 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, perfect solution < 1271363136 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well this is also about costs, of course, or rather no one using a penny/cent/øre more than they legally _have_ to, and choosing the lowest bidder < 1271363224 0 :Sgeo|web!~897d6958@gateway/web/freenode/x-bpkeyslsfohlaqla JOIN :#esoteric < 1271363231 0 :Sgeo|web!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION WTFs at public void inspect(U u){ < 1271363248 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1271363280 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes of course you would have to make this a law < 1271363978 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1271364158 0 :tombom!tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1271364211 0 :Alex3012!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1271364557 0 :Tritonio_GR!~Tritonio@150.140.231.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1271364691 0 :ENKI-][!~john@c-24-63-206-22.hsd1.ct.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271365624 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo|web: what does it do? < 1271365886 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't it exactly equivalent to public void inspect(Object u){ or similar, since the code inside cannot possibly use anything that doesn't apply to all objects? < 1271365998 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming i recall right that is generics or something like that, i'm not sure what language that is) < 1271366142 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1271366174 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the equivalent would be inspect :: a -> IO () in haskell, which _cannot_ possibly use anything specific to the argument type < 1271366183 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for the type declaration) < 1271366231 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although with object-oriented languages and reflection that no longer holds - but then you could still use just Object i think < 1271366242 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Modulo EVIL stuff. < 1271366249 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this all from my vague half-understanding of java < 1271366281 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: what was that in reference to? < 1271366301 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: unsafeCoerce and hope it doesn't break. < 1271366311 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for "inspect :: a->IO ()" < 1271366359 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well but that is sort of internal isn't it, not haskell proper < 1271366381 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anything even slightly portable _would_ break unless you knew the type < 1271366405 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unsafeCoerce can be *done* with Haskell proper, if you include the FFI addendum. < 1271366419 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh hm < 1271366447 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well still on the break thing. i assume the public thing above is meant not to break... < 1271366449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(unsafePerformIO is "real" Haskell you know) < 1271366463 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, probably not. < 1271366483 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Oh*. That inspect function can also take values that aren't Objects. < 1271366494 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Java has a small handful of unboxed types) < 1271366494 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess if you knew it was ghc you could somehow get at least to the GC information... < 1271366540 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um isn't that just auto-conversion to Object, anyway? type erasure etc. < 1271366615 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my understanding of generics in Java is not great though, the time i read a java tutorial was before they were added < 1271366656 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i ran out of steam before writing any actual programs < 1271366670 0 :Sgeo|web!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION just hates the location of the thing < 1271366674 0 :Sgeo|web!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, you can store it < 1271366755 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it is the logical place to place the , i think < 1271366773 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything after is under its scope < 1271367057 0 :Sgeo|web!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is somewhat used to inspect(U u) < 1271367070 0 :Sgeo|web!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I guess you're right < 1271367537 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm always right. also don't eat icecream, it's poisonous. < 1271367870 0 :Susan!~rcfunge98@las-static-208.57.3.35.mpowercom.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271367920 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would the author of Mycology be on here today? < 1271367934 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: are you around? < 1271367937 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan: let's find out < 1271367937 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aye < 1271367945 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan: apparently yes < 1271367963 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a quick question, on the fail of Rc/Funge-98. Is the one in the y command related to the form feed problem? < 1271367990 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably, yes < 1271368032 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read through the official spec and it does not mention if the form feed should be just ignored on Befunge? or should it actually be loaded to fungespace and the x coordinate increased? < 1271368036 0 :Sgeo|web!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Today is the last day for a while that I will be without Internet access for any significant length of time < 1271368037 0 :Sgeo|web!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1271368073 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan: my guess would be to put a literal formfeed into the fungespace < 1271368076 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan: If it's none of "\n", "\r\n", or "\r", it should be loaded into the Fungespace. < 1271368077 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it isn't space, nor newline < 1271368077 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan: The general understanding is that it's analogous to the way newlines are stated to work in Unefunge < 1271368109 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, I will try loading it into fungespace and see if that removes the error. < 1271368163 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mycology is only fussed when it's treated as something that seems to mess up later space: i.e. EOL or EOF < 1271368215 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I think Rc/Funge-98 currently starts loading things into higher z-coordinates, even though other planes shouldn't really exist in Befunge) < 1271368273 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I wonder if I've actually misthought how form feeds should behave. < 1271368294 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But then, if what I'm thinking now is correct, every interpreter does it wrong. < 1271368350 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, even what I'm thinking now leads to the same behaviour. < 1271368406 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan: In Unefunge, newlines are treated as appending the next line to the previous: "foo\nbar" becomes "foobar". Analogously, in Befunge, form feeds should be treated as appending the two planes together: "foo\nbar\fbaz" becomes "foo\nbarbaz". I.e. they are ignored. < 1271368501 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a "should be" not "is", though < 1271368511 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not unknown for a spec to be internally non-orthogonal < 1271368516 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and befunge is full of that sort of thing < 1271368533 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, at least this gives me an idea of what it should do. < 1271368539 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mostly because the spec is poorly written, though :-P < 1271368542 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now to fix it! lol < 1271368550 0 :Sgeo|web!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Page closed < 1271368560 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan: Are you currently handling Rc/Funge-98 development? < 1271368570 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes I am. < 1271368574 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Funge-98 is at least better-specified than Funge-93. < 1271368600 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, fun fact: -O3 breaks cfunge on gcc-4.5 < 1271368605 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no time to debug it currently < 1271368608 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-) < 1271368611 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From looking at the code it looks like Rc/Funge-98 IS increasing z on the form feed, even in Befunge mode. < 1271368620 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, works just fine on 4.3 and 4.4 < 1271368630 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right, that was suspected (and confirmed by somebody, AnMaster maybe) < 1271368643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yes I remember testing it < 1271368645 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good chunks of the logic in my Funge-93 interpreter are just undefined behavior. :P < 1271368649 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can confirm it as well. I have the code right in front of me. < 1271368650 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who is Susan btw? < 1271368667 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan = current maintainer of Rc/Funge-98. < 1271368669 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1271368679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope Mike is okay still. < 1271368717 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, to put this as delicate as possible I guess, She decided to end her pain. < 1271368733 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fek < 1271368758 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she? < 1271368774 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For the past 20 some odd years, yes. < 1271368780 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1271368786 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and damn, I thought we talked him(???) out of it < 1271368816 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mike was born intersexed and altered at birth to be a boy. < 1271368819 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1271368835 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :About his teenage years he decided that he was not a he and his parents made a mistake. < 1271368848 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm. Ouch < 1271368861 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that explains a lot < 1271368862 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And transitioned in his early twenties to female. < 1271368889 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and something went wrong? Or? < 1271368924 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hillary, as she renamed herself, could only socially transition. The alterations made at birth prevented a physical transition. < 1271368978 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the end the pain of having an incongruous body drove her mad. < 1271368984 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see :/ < 1271369025 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For about the past couple years she was in very severe depression and refused all help, even mine. < 1271369073 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan, so lets leave this sad subject, since there isn't anything we can do now about it. I wonder how much interest you have in esolangs. It would be somewhat sad if you just did it because of err, her. Compared to actually being interested in befunge. < 1271369122 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Up until Hillary gave me Rc/Funge-98 I had never heard of esoteric languages. My first exposure was her program. < 1271369145 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After playing around with her interpreter, I must say that I am really fascinated. < 1271369204 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very well then. :) < 1271369234 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will have to admit that at this point I am on the learning curve. < 1271369279 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan, ah :) < 1271369304 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's not unknown for a spec to be internally non-orthogonal <-- that made me think about a funge with non-orthogonal vectors for defining funge space < 1271369313 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could have some quite interesting properties perhaps < 1271369324 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, maybe < 1271369341 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :deep down, I'm hoping that this is just epic trolling rather than an actual suicide < 1271369358 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well, I doubt it is actually true though < 1271369367 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would call it most likely wishful thinking < 1271369398 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am sorry to say Ais523 that the person that you knew as Mike Riley is gone. < 1271369441 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch; well, as you're related to him (or at least live in the same house), my condolences < 1271369468 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah, my condolences too < 1271369474 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(oh ais523 is the maintainer of C-INTERCAL btw. INTERCAL is another esolang. And arguably a _lot_ more confusing.) < 1271369487 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I was not related to her. Just a friend. < 1271369510 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thank you. < 1271369526 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A closer friend than we were presumably though. < 1271369548 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh, I messed up the grammar there I think. < 1271369559 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, I think that's correct English < 1271369561 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew her for about 15 years. Yes, close enough that she confided her secret to me. < 1271369567 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although a comma before though would be more usual < 1271369592 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ah yes that's it < 1271369644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"though" < 1271369659 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ? < 1271369669 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I was missing quotes in /my/ comment, so I corrected it < 1271369673 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1271369674 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muphry's law < 1271369691 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it was a bit confusing though. A sed expression might have made it clearer < 1271369700 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Strange he used the name Mike Riley then on IRC and such. I guess we will never know why.) < 1271369717 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, I use the name ais523 online, though; it's not so weird to use a different name < 1271369735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well sure. You think this is my name? ;P < 1271369744 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, if it's an identity you'd rather reject, you might be more likely to not use it < 1271369750 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She started her programming career while still a guy. Since she operated a business writing software she continued to use that name professionally when there would be no face to face contact. < 1271369752 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, you're called arvid < 1271369756 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, yeah that is what I meant < 1271369765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, correct but I usually tend to use upper case A there < 1271369783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan, ah hm < 1271369863 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of her credentials were also under Mike Riley, so she was kind of stuck with it. < 1271369887 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean, ID papers and such? (Note I'm not a native English speaker) < 1271369903 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(but I thought you could do a legal name change) < 1271369917 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "credentials" has two meanings, either a generalisation of "username/password", or a generalisation of "degrees and qualifications" < 1271369925 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, hm okay < 1271369933 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Her degree was under Mike Riley. All of her early software was written under that name, and so to maintain her references she needed to keep the name for her software ventures. < 1271369939 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, well the former I know about, but that didn't seem to apply < 1271369954 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan, ah I see < 1271369979 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All of her other paperwork were changed, drivers license, utility bills and such. < 1271369996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1271370031 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, I don't think I ever asked why it was called _RC_ in RC/Funge. < 1271370043 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any idea? (or Deewiant perhaps) < 1271370073 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I may've known but don't remember. < 1271370077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1271370085 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Her software company was called RCS for Riley Computer Software. I can only imagine that she took the first two letters and attached it to the name of the program. Most of her software was prepended with RC/. < 1271370095 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see < 1271370104 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I didn't know that. < 1271370123 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Susan, it isn't really a company style of software though. I can't imagine anyone selling a funge interpreter. XD < 1271370124 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The handprint of Rc/Funge-98 is also "RCSU". < 1271370131 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(U for Unix) < 1271370151 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: well, isn't cats' eye a company? < 1271370152 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, I didn't know that < 1271370162 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does serious stuff as well as all the esolangs? < 1271370165 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :She wrote a lot of software also that she released into the public domain. < 1271370171 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I don't know, who knows. < 1271370193 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, it could be just a parody or something? < 1271370201 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not all the software she wrote was sold. < 1271370212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well I didn't say that it was < 1271370217 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I hear that if you're in a serious programming job, you need to do frivolous things too to stay sane < 1271370225 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Random mood-lightener, something by a Swedish comedian (speaks English half the time) that probably mainly Finns will find funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZB77xpu9MY < 1271370243 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net < 1271370244 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, I can imagine. Which is one reason I see to aim for an academic job. < 1271370258 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1271370282 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, why FInns? < 1271370283 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: That's not a "serious programming job"? :-P < 1271370297 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because the topic is Finnish universities. < 1271370305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1271370321 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know, maybe it's otherwise funny enough as well, I wouldn't know :-P < 1271370333 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, depends. Computer science? Then no < 1271370359 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on how seriously you do it I imagine < 1271370394 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I find that movie rather offensive... < 1271370420 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's that? < 1271370432 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Also, it's probably intentional) < 1271370458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, ? How can it not be? Did you listen to the Swedish/English or read the text? I can't say if the text is a literal translation < 1271370472 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, but it seems to keep the offensive bits mostly out of the English parts < 1271370477 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I listened and read, the text is fairly accurate < 1271370487 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, he uses Swedish swear words :-P < 1271370517 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not swear words, but profane vocabulary < 1271370535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quite < 1271370551 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you offended by profanity? < 1271370566 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, somewhat yes < 1271370571 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :depends. < 1271370584 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a strange outlook IMO < 1271370607 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm offended by profanity without a reason < 1271370651 0 :Oranjer!~HP_Admini@adsl-34-17-217.cae.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1271370663 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case, the reason is the comedy < 1271370664 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, I find it confusing also. I guess only Finns get the references in there < 1271370689 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But of course, one can disagree with that as well < 1271370702 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah I didn't really find it funny. < 1271370725 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Yeah, that's why I warned about it :-P < 1271370869 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, what are the references and where does the profanity come into it? < 1271370902 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the profanity I think just fits the theme and the mood < 1271371178 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Funge-98 is at least better-specified than Funge-93. <-- sure, but there is more of funge-98, resulting in more of the less well speccced parts than one would have hoped for. < 1271371190 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also true. < 1271371214 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: My wife's brothers are quite some fans of the comedian in question, or at least the Finlandssvenskt Näringsliv thing; had seen that clip earlier. < 1271371240 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: They speak Swedish at home, though, so maybe they can relate. < 1271371255 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, Maybe. < 1271371261 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, interesting capitalization there. < 1271371277 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, in what? < 1271371282 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In what I said. < 1271371287 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1271371303 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, btw what is that "pappren inne - sol i sinnet" about? < 1271371313 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Capitalizing "heh" always seems wrong to me and I guess I then saw "maybe" as starting the sentence < 1271371409 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Well just that: apply to the university and keep the coming good times in mind, or something to that effect < 1271371457 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1271371464 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, is it some slogan used over there or something? < 1271371495 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No < 1271371501 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure it's specific to that comedy short < 1271371513 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As in, that clip. < 1271371531 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, there seems to be more "Finlandssvenskt näringsliv" parodies from him at youtube < 1271371551 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep < 1271371558 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sol ute, sol inne, sol i hjertet, sol i sinnet < 1271371598 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sol para sol < 1271371716 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oj, sol i norge? < 1271371729 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, maybe not just now < 1271371749 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd expect not at this time of day < 1271371783 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Coyote finally caught me < 1271371791 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@li14-39.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1271371887 0 :kar8nga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1271372024 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like Ny-Ålesund on Svalbard won't have the sun set completely from tomorrow < 1271372067 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, don't listen to them. Yes there is sol i Norge. Yes it is the wrong time for it. Yes you can think of the dreadful consequences yourself. (If not: end of world and so on) < 1271372077 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hah < 1271372087 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the world has already ended in norway? the end is near! < 1271372095 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i understand what "upper edge" means at http://www.yr.no/informasjon/1.6629345 < 1271372096 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I didn't remember we passed vårdagjämning yet < 1271372111 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever it is called in English < 1271372113 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's nearly a month ago now < 1271372118 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it? okay < 1271372121 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :spring equinox < 1271372121 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :feels like winter ended just a couple of days ago < 1271372162 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, my thought exactly < 1271372181 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well a bit more than that, a week and a half ago or so < 1271372188 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at most < 1271372213 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snow forecast here in the next couple days < 1271372238 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably just a little bit i guess < 1271372249 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope so < 1271372522 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.2/20100316074819] < 1271372804 0 :Oranjer!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1271372939 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1271373531 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@128.198.96.200 JOIN :#esoteric < 1271374146 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1271374399 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1271374708 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I am leaving. You are about to explode. < 1271374738 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1271374976 0 :Susan!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1271375034 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1271375295 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1271375451 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1271375491 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1271375497 0 :rodgort!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1271375801 0 :rodgort!~rodgort@li14-39.members.linode.com JOIN :#esoteric