< 1272499573 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night < 1272499595 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Huh, Wikipedia says that the Scandinavian cross symbolizes Christianity. <-- sounds familiar < 1272499613 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you mean in the Swedish, Danish, Norwegian and Finnish flags? < 1272499656 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably Icelandic too < 1272499660 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1272499672 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl, well, probably not vandalism < 1272499679 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, ^ < 1272499689 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1272499811 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it seems most plausible that they all just copied Denmark. < 1272499829 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.theweathernetwork.com/fourteenday/caon0512?ref=qlink_st_14day <-- ais523 filters URLS < 1272499829 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As for the origin of Denmark's flag, I guess it just fell from the sky or something. < 1272499831 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :URLs* < 1272499832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on irc < 1272499844 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1272499848 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how lame < 1272499858 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl, the cross does iirc symbolise that thing < 1272499864 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, you tell him < 1272499875 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how lame < 1272499883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, as a counter action I suggest filtering any urls he paste on irc < 1272499888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have already begun that < 1272499890 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: "counter action"? < 1272499895 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is there some sort of ignore war going on here? < 1272499901 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apparently you filter URLs < 1272499910 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, because I rarely or never click on them anyway < 1272499915 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, just url filtering wall < 1272499917 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :war* < 1272499967 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks his /ignores. < 1272499970 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see why blocking parts of my comments is particularly helpful to you < 1272499989 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have my URLs become less valuable just because I don't read other people's? < 1272499990 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not dropping all messages containing the phrase "free will". This is unacceptable. < 1272500036 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :definitely < 1272500039 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uorygl, XD < 1272500042 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you make it official that AnMaster can't communicate to you by giving you links, it's only fair he does that too < 1272500045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just search-and-replace it to "slave labor" < 1272500061 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because often it's nicer to give a link than to do a copypaste via brain < 1272500097 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo free will < 1272500098 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :free will < 1272500098 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, yes I might in future paste the html source with data uris for images in /msg to ais < 1272500100 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo expensive will < 1272500101 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expensive will < 1272500105 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Success. < 1272500109 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1272500145 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: they'd have to be very small images < 1272500156 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, oh? or a very long /msg < 1272500167 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: IRC has a limit of 510 characters per line, you should know that < 1272500180 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes but html could handle a line break in the middle, no? < 1272500194 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I thought you meant just posting a single image < 1272500205 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data:blahblah < 1272500210 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blahblah < 1272500212 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like that < 1272500214 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work < 1272500228 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you'd just get throttled by Freenode < 1272500247 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, yes but my irc has built in rate limiting < 1272500253 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it would just continue for a long time < 1272500260 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if someone was spamming me in /msg, I might ignore them for a while until it ended < 1272500276 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which would be a pity, because it means I'd miss half the conversation here; maybe I'd logread < 1272500305 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1272500312 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, where the URLs would be anyway < 1272500316 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, also see what oklopol said < 1272500320 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: if you make it official that AnMaster can't communicate to you by giving you links, it's only fair he does that too < 1272500323 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is true < 1272500326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and now, night œ < 1272500328 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :→* < 1272500338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he couldn't communicate with me via links before, because I never clicked on them after all < 1272500405 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably just fairer to make that explicit < 1272502414 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, and in fact up to this point he's just ignored all your links silently, too < 1272502471 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not true ofc, and anyway i just wanted to clarify what his reasons were < 1272502515 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sevenfold < 1272502519 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sevenfold glium < 1272503929 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1272504037 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1272504375 0 :Tritonio_GR!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1272505461 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I guess I'm going to make a processor. < 1272505484 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does anyone know of any good Verilog simulators? < 1272505489 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, I'll just get Icarus. < 1272505824 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope it works on the Mac. < 1272511358 0 :sshc!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1272511378 0 :Asztal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1272512901 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@129.241.210.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1272512980 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272513048 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : `translatefromto no en armktokhund <-- no such word in norwegian < 1272513055 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1272513067 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"arm" is arm though, and "hund" is dog < 1272513117 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arm can also mean poor, that's a bit archaic. < 1272513287 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Aww, "sletteloggen". < 1272513294 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the deletion log < 1272513298 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1272513448 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Huh, Wikipedia says that the Scandinavian cross symbolizes Christianity. <-- for the flag? of course, what else would it be? < 1272513472 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the danish and probably swedish flags go back to the middle age, the rest are patterned on them < 1272513575 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact i recall reading claims that the danish flag is based on a crusade one. < 1272513592 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't quite recall it being from a reliable source though < 1272513644 0 :sshc!~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc JOIN :#esoteric < 1272513714 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh there's a legend for it falling from heaven < 1272513963 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the knights hospitaller (from the crusades) have a rather similar flag < 1272514007 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A theory brought forth by the Danish historian Adolf Ditlev Jørgensen in 1875 in his book "Danebroges Oprindelse" is that the Danish flag _is_ the banner of the Knights Hospitaller." < 1272514037 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although the real gist you get from the danish flag article is "nobody knows" < 1272514327 0 :augur_!~augur@c-98-218-226-149.hsd1.dc.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272514455 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1272514626 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Adolf... What an unfortunate name nowadays. < 1272514642 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1272514655 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1272514666 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn Hitler, killing off a name and a mustache style. < 1272514827 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all that other nasty stuff he did too, but come on, did he really have to kill Chaplin 'stache? < 1272514879 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well look at the bright side, chaplin used the similarity for all it was worth < 1272514943 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And his crimes against Esperanto. < 1272515441 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272516032 0 :bsmntbombdood!~gavin@97-118-177-177.hlrn.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272516316 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1272518997 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1272519137 0 :MizardX!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 268 seconds < 1272519194 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: lament < 1272520504 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1272521289 0 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-104.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272522010 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1272522048 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1272522053 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1272522104 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1272522849 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1272524995 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1272525590 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1272525733 0 :Gracenotes!~person@wikipedia/Gracenotes JOIN :#esoteric < 1272525916 0 :bsmntbombdood!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1272526113 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272526590 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Internet on Internet Internetissä. < 1272526591 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Internet Internet is the Internet. < 1272526603 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I will do anything (almost) for a new router. < 1272526613 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, that didn't really work. < 1272526673 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1272526724 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate keskellä < 1272526726 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the middle < 1272526740 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate keskellä yötä < 1272526741 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :middle of the night < 1272526749 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How efficient. < 1272526803 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Aurinko paistaa keskellä yötä. < 1272526805 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sun is shining in the middle of the night. < 1272526864 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Aurinko paistaa taistelemaan. < 1272526866 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sun shines to fight. < 1272526874 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's less efficient. < 1272527276 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Doug löytyi kivi, loisti < 1272527278 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Doug found the stone, shone < 1272527537 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`translate Olen kivi. Kun puhutaan itse kautta Google Translate, olen usein kutsua itseäni kivi, koska jos minä itseäni rock, Google Translate voisi kääntää se "rock". "Rock" ei suomalainen sana "rock". < 1272527539 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Rock" is a Finnish word "rock". < 1272527617 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1272527622 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you *want* to say "Doug found the stone, shone", a more grammatiik way would be "Doug löysi kiven, loisti." < 1272527660 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think I wanted to say "Doug found a rock that was shining". < 1272527665 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "Doug löytyi, kivi loisti" is perfectly well for "Doug was found, the stone shone". < 1272527671 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Doug löysi loistavan kiven", in that case. < 1272527693 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although "loistava" can be both "shiny" and... something like "wonderful". < 1272527701 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe "brilliant" is closer. < 1272527711 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why I was given "Doug löytyi kivi, loisti", then. < 1272527738 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess Google Translate is stupid. < 1272527739 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your translation system might be... imperfect. Shock, horror. < 1272527771 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, I guess "kiven" is the accusative and "kivi" is the nominative? < 1272527819 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Though "kiven" is also the genitive. < 1272527831 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not that rocks have that many possessions. < 1272527854 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you put it before or after the thing possessed? < 1272527874 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Before. < 1272527899 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So would "kiven kivi loisti" mean "the rock's rock shone"? < 1272527920 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that sounds correct, if a bit silly. < 1272527925 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the semantic sense, that is. < 1272527933 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, I only know one noun. :) < 1272527978 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For "Doug found a shiny stone" translate.google gives me "Doug löytyi kiiltävä kivi", which is closer. It's a bit like "Doug was found a shiny stone". It seems to have a problem understanding that Doug's the one doing the finding, not the one that is found. < 1272527999 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1272528000 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1272528007 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course it's a purely/mostly statistical translation thing, as far as I know. < 1272528015 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do you say "dog"? Maybe I'd like to talk about the dog's rock. < 1272528029 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koira. < 1272528034 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do dogs have rocks? < 1272528042 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only rarely. < 1272528050 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have thought bones. < 1272528060 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, is it "koiran kivi"? < 1272528064 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1272528113 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it would be nice to get some verbs in. < 1272528150 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What are "the dog lifts the rock", and "the dog lifts the bone"? < 1272528180 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Koira nostaa kiven", "koira nostaa luun" would be the ones I think of first. < 1272528277 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I'm lifting the dog? Can I still use nostaa, or is it something else for a first-person person? < 1272528305 0 :myndzi\!myndzi@tengototen.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272528338 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "nostan". "Minä nostan, sinä nostat, hän nostaa; me nostamme, te nostatte, he nostavat"; I lift, you lift, he/she/it lifts; we lift, you (plural) lift, they lift. < 1272528380 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh, the plurals are shorter than the singulars. < 1272528394 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minä nostan koiran. < 1272528405 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I will do anything (almost) for a new router. < 1272528434 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What if I give the bone to the dog? < 1272528485 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"(Minä) annan koiralle luun", or "annan luun koiralle"; the word order is not so very critical there, I think, it's more about what do you want to emphasize, the dog or the bone. < 1272528507 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The same difference as in "give the dog a bone", or "give a bone to the dog", I guess. < 1272528513 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1272528569 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And how about if the dog gives me the bone? < 1272528592 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koira annaa luun something? < 1272528610 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Koira antaa minulle luun", or "koira antaa luun minulle". < 1272528629 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Annan, annat, antaa; annamme, annatte, antavat. < 1272528672 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh. < 1272528686 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's the conjugation of nostaa? < 1272528696 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you gave that. < 1272528714 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heyo < 1272528715 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, though it lacks the more uncommon cases. < 1272528746 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, the conjugations look the same, except that the stem "ann" becomes "ant" in the third person. < 1272528763 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe the stem is "an" and it just uses slightly different suffices. < 1272528764 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nostaos" = "oh, please lift" according to Wikipedia translation. "Archaic and/or poetic." Haven't seen it much anywhere. < 1272528766 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suffixes. < 1272528790 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Oh, please lift" does sound rather archair and/or poetic. :) < 1272528827 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I shouldn't worry too much about conjugating verbs right. < 1272528866 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nostakoon koira luun" = "let the dog lift the bone", in the imperative-command sense of 'let', not the permit-the-dog one. < 1272528889 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: lament < 1272528897 0 :adam_d!~Adam@cpc2-acto6-0-0-cust48.brnt.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1272528898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Koira nostanee luun" = "the dog is likely to lift the bone". < 1272528912 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoever designed this stuff went a bit overboard with the cases. < 1272528929 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1272528987 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION ponders dogs, rocks, bones, shining, giving, and lifting for a moment. < 1272529032 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koira, kivi... the bone hasn't done anything yet, so I don't know its nominative. Is it luu? < 1272529038 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1272529096 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If something's made out of bone, though, it's "luuta"; "kivi on luuta" = "the rock is made out of bone". Unfortunately "luuta" is also the nominative of "broom". < 1272529114 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koira, kivi, luu, loisti, annaa, nostaa. < 1272529137 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Does the sentence "kivi on luuta" contain a verb? < 1272529173 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"on" is a verb. < 1272529194 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Third-person singular indicative present form of "olla", "to be". < 1272529204 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION nods. < 1272529226 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's the conjugation of that? < 1272529265 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uh. Olen, olet, on; olemme, olette, ovat. < 1272529286 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minä olen koiran. < 1272529321 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be something like "the dog owns me"; it's just "minä olen koira" if you want to be the dog. < 1272529345 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that the nominative on "koira" there? < 1272529367 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I guess. < 1272529416 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how about "my head is made out of rock"? < 1272529445 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pääni on tehty kivestä" if you want explicitly "made out of rock"; alternatively, "pääni on kiveä". < 1272529484 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pääni" is "my head"? < 1272529494 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. "Pää" is the nominative there. < 1272529513 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then you just tack on "ni" to mean "my"? < 1272529577 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/rb7Xz.jpg < 1272529578 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, that would work for most things. < 1272529592 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possessive_suffix#Finnish < 1272529609 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then how about... < 1272529625 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Koiranni pää on luuta. < 1272529669 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Koirani", but otherwise that's correct for "my dog is a bone-head". Well, maybe not exactly the same meaning. < 1272529677 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be "koirani on luupää". < 1272529714 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can concatenate nouns in this language, I see. < 1272529786 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, how about "the dog gets the bone"? < 1272529799 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Kolmivaihekilowattituntimittari is one reasonably commonly trumped long-compound-word. (It's an electricity meter -- presumably measuring in kWh units -- for three-phase electrcity.) < 1272529817 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Koira saa luun." < 1272529847 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The dog eats the dog-food"? < 1272529858 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Koira syö koiranruokaa." < 1272529866 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I eat some lunch now, so not here for a while. < 1272529876 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Hopefully it won't be dog-food.) < 1272529887 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just trying to figure out how to dismiss myself for food-eating purposes. :) < 1272529896 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good timing. < 1272529897 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I probably could have phrased that better.) < 1272529940 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to say "Minä san ruokaa." < 1272529992 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But anyway, it's 3 AM over here, so I should probably begin sleeping soon, eh? < 1272530020 0 :uorygl!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yötä. < 1272530689 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1272531032 0 :Axtens!~Axtens@dsl-202-72-158-213.wa.westnet.com.au JOIN :#esoteric < 1272532222 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "minä saan", but nights, anyhow. < 1272532920 0 :Axtens!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kya ho rha hai? < 1272534028 0 :Axtens!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1272534687 0 :lereah_!~lereah@nanpc301.in2p3.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1272537803 0 :Asztal!~asztal@host86-156-97-80.range86-156.btcentralplus.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1272538805 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1272538805 0 :Quadrescence!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1272538810 0 :comex!comex@c-98-210-192-54.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272538931 0 :Quadrescence!~Quad@unaffiliated/quadrescence JOIN :#esoteric < 1272540037 0 :hiato!~fdulu@41-132-16-47.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1272546327 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's an amazon.com review for "Image Processing: Analysis and Machine Vision", third edition, a textbook on one of our courses: < 1272546327 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Fascinating and gripping. < 1272546327 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Very few books make me laugh out loud. Even fewer make me weep. This fabulous book took me to both these extremes in the first chapter. Rarely is seen a talent as manifest as Sonika's achieved without losing the freshness and vibrance of a much younger author. < 1272546327 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sonika has shunned the jaded cynicism of many of his more mature contemporaries. Influences such as Gordon and Hhleghh are easy to spot, yet there also lies the deeper, warm tones of giants like Stewart or Brown. < 1272546329 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buy 'Image Processing, Analysis and Machine Vision' now, but finish whatever you're currently reading first. Anything after this will only disappoint you." < 1272546341 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's some serious praise for an image processing textbook. < 1272548069 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1272549895 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1272550122 0 :oerjan!~oerjan@129.241.210.68 JOIN :#esoteric < 1272552644 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Misread an Amazon title recommendation as "Purely Fictional Data Structures". (Unsurprisingly, they were functional instead. I might have bought a book on fictional ones.) < 1272553137 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Does anyone know of any good Verilog simulators? <-- why not VHDL? < 1272553207 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : `translatefromto no en armktokhund <-- no such word in norwegian <-- nor in Swedish, without the k it would have been several concatenated words (which is valid in Swedish) but with a nonsense meaning < 1272553301 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : And his crimes against Esperanto. <-- that I haven't heard about < 1272553326 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : `translate keskellä <-- Finnish? < 1272553356 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, clearly it's upper left mongolian < 1272553359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : That's less efficient. <-- why are you comparing to English there? < 1272553402 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :translation always tends to make things longer, regardless of direction < 1272553435 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : I guess Google Translate is stupid. <-- yes, usually < 1272553654 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : How do you say "dog"? Maybe I'd like to talk about the dog's rock. <-- isn't the classical thing to learn to talk about in a foreign language something completely useless? < 1272553658 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unlike that < 1272553686 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hm < 1272553709 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh btw, wrt removing k in "armktokhund", only the first k < 1272553723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, does Norwegian have "tok"? < 1272553733 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is unsure how to properly translate it to English < 1272553751 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: i don't think so. what does it mean? < 1272553774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"madman" is _way_ too strong, "eccentric" sounds like some rich person. < 1272553780 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1272553784 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fi:keskellä is about en:"in the middle". < 1272553785 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tokig means silly in swedish iirc < 1272553789 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes < 1272553789 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is that crazy < 1272553792 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1272553794 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, both < 1272553813 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on context I guess < 1272553832 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't a 1:1 mapping < 1272553841 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, tok is a noun for someone who is tokig < 1272553847 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1272553847 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another Amazon recommendation: "How to Survive a Robot Uprising: Tips on Defending Yourself Against the Coming Rebellion". They must be trying to tell me something. < 1272553871 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why did I read that as "reboot surprising"? < 1272553879 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though why would they give me advance warning? Some kind of a dastardly plan. < 1272553904 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: the robots have already planted a chip in your brain so you have trouble recognizing it < 1272553918 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hah < 1272553933 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's le resistance, clearly < 1272553937 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true < 1272553963 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I guess English has no perfect mapping of sv:tok < 1272554008 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if no:tosk is related, that means just a stupid person though < 1272554032 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it may or may not have a negative connotation, it kind of depends on how it is used < 1272554182 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from wikipedia "The 29 highest mountains in Norway are all in Jotunheimen, including the very highest - Galdhøpiggen (2469 m)." <-- doesn't "the highest 29" by definition include every subset of itself? < 1272554205 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd think < 1272554209 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: got to run < 1272554243 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I would even say that generally all sets include all it's own subsets, by definition < 1272554262 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or at least, trivially provable from definitions) < 1272554362 0 :Rugxulo!~rugxulo@adsl-065-013-115-246.sip.mob.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272554395 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I don't remember ever hearing about a Brainf*** interpreter in Befunge-98 (but no, I didn't write it) ... http://fi.muni.cz/~xgoljer/bf.txt < 1272554409 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1272554421 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's one in the bot, you know. < 1272554440 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it's nowadays even linked from the wiki. < 1272554459 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't stand-alonized that version, though, like I have for the Underload one. < 1272554496 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bf_txtgen Hello world < 1272554500 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1272554502 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!hel < 1272554503 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!help < 1272554503 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :help: General commands: !help, !info, !bf_txtgen. See also !help languages, !help userinterps. You can get help on some commands by typing !help . < 1272554503 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :108 ++++++++++[>+++++++>+>++++++++++>+++<<<<-]>++.>>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<++++++++.--------.+++.------.--------.<. [899] < 1272554508 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1272554509 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slow < 1272554518 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>+>++++++++++>+++<<<<-]>++.>>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<++++++++.--------.+++.------.--------.<. < 1272554525 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1272554534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1272554534 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>+>++++++++++>+++<<<<-]>++.>>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<++++++++.--------.+++.------.--------.<. < 1272554534 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to hazard a guess that mine is more efficient; I translate the input brainfuck to a bytecode (collapsing consecutive +-<>s) and use a jump-table-based interpreter for the bytecode, instead of that long chain of ifs. < 1272554535 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, where is fungot < 1272554544 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alsso wtf < 1272554546 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also* < 1272554574 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you fixed the collapsing of > but not < (or was it the other way around?) < 1272554589 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, that's still broken. :p < 1272554607 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, plus it doesn't reconnect on connection lost properly < 1272554622 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Gregor's bots are always slow on the first command when they haven't been used for a while < 1272554630 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, anybody have VISBEF.ZIP (Visual Befunge)? original site is down and mirror is broken < 1272554636 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That wouldn't have helped; it had hung up, not lost the connection. (It's anyone's guess why no time-out had interrupted it, though.) < 1272554638 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, so annoying that stuff disappears!! < 1272554643 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I wonder what else those computers run then, since presumably it is a cache effect < 1272554645 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ slow disk < 1272554655 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :+ not a lot of ram / a lot of other things wanting ram < 1272554686 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to have to reconnectize, my hostmask's again broken. *Really* should fix those IPv6 reverse-DNS entries some day. < 1272554687 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: jumpin' jumpin' < 1272554689 0 :fizzie!fis@iris.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1272554690 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, visbef is for what OS? < 1272554697 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, grammar < 1272554698 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Win32 < 1272554714 0 :fungot!~fungot@momus.zem.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1272554722 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, then I know for sure I don't have a copy stored anywhere < 1272554724 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, you're right, Esolang wiki has the B98 Brainf*** interpreter ... but only on the Brainf*** page, not the Befunge page < 1272554742 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, does a page about C have every possible C program? < 1272554751 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: I mean, the one in the bot is linked from the huge table of esolangs-implemented-in-other-esolangs. < 1272554760 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, where is that table? < 1272554765 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^bf ++++++++++[>+++++++>+>++++++++++>+++<<<<-]>++.>>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<++++++++.--------.+++.------.--------.<. < 1272554765 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello world. < 1272554769 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I couldn't find it the last time I looked. :) < 1272554774 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where did the . come from < 1272554780 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't in my original command < 1272554783 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ^ < 1272554795 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, TECO version ;-) < 1272554801 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, so you could have dreamt it? < 1272554807 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, what? a TECO interpreter in befunge? < 1272554814 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(now THAT would be a nice idea) < 1272554819 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: The . is a newline, I think. < 1272554822 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1272554822 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, Brainf*** is arguably the most popular esolang ... so mentioning it isn't horrible (esp. since the Befunge page already mentions it) < 1272554827 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes egobot adds newlines < 1272554831 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, Brainf*** in TECO < 1272554846 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1272554855 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: EsoInterpreters < 1272554902 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BTW, somebody hacked my REXX B93 interpreter to be faster, but it needs a few compatibility tweaks before it will run on PCs < 1272554939 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :avoids the stack, though, not sure if that is for speed or not (at least it works around a 16-bit BREXX bug) < 1272554962 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/stack/REXX stack/ < 1272554971 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what graph based esolangs are there? I don't mean graph rewriting, I mean like state machines represented as graphs, but not just plain old boring Moore/Mealy-automatons (which aren't esoteric) < 1272554996 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, REXX? < 1272555046 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1272555085 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is your question, what is REXX or why? < 1272555112 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, what it is < 1272555143 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(tech answer) replacement scripting lang for EXEC on mainframes (simple answer) something common on Amiga and OS/2 < 1272555170 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, wait a sec, what does mainframes have to do with amiga? < 1272555185 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing ... but REXX is an interpreted language, and several implementations exist < 1272555218 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REXX < 1272555225 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what do you mean with replacing EXEC? Was EXEC some other scripting language? Or do you mean exec as "execute other program" < 1272555244 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.rexx/topics?lnk=srg < 1272555249 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was another scripting language < 1272555259 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is exec or execv() or similar on most sane platforms, but is CreateProcessEx() on windows) < 1272555329 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sourceforge.net/projects/oorexx/ < 1272555338 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OO as in OOP? < 1272555345 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optional, came later, but yes < 1272555365 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh < 1272555409 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRL2 (level 4) in 1990, ANSI (level 5) in 1996, Object Rexx (level 6) in 1995-ish??? (and open-sourced in 2005 or so) < 1272555493 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OT7, the level 7 Operating Thetan. < 1272555504 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know why that reminded me of. < 1272555547 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :object oriented thetan < 1272555557 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION only barely learned any REXX two months ago, so is far from a pro < 1272555576 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: They should start some sort of OOT levels, perhaps. < 1272555896 0 :MizardX!~MizardX@unaffiliated/mizardx JOIN :#esoteric < 1272556005 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, they have 64-bit compiles for Linux of ooREXX ... although you're a Gentoo user, right? < 1272556040 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, arch linux since several months < 1272556050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I dislike OO < 1272556069 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I don't see why I would be interested in REXX at all currently < 1272556092 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION realizes that the people who look for object-oriented K are going to be so disappointed < 1272556225 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OO is optional, my B93 doesn't use it < 1272556260 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is the Esolang wiki dead or is it still a good idea to update it? < 1272556281 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats Rugxulo -----### < 1272556287 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges -- that doesn't look dead to me! < 1272556297 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just resting! < 1272556308 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I noticed a lot of errors and broken links and a few omissions, so ... < 1272556319 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: That is not dead which can eternal lie! < 1272556348 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: well the old stuff is not always very well maintained < 1272556356 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've still never heard anybody ever mention the "Betty compiler" :-/ < 1272556359 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, it's pining for the fjords < 1272556394 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1272556423 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the community is active enough to get some new stuff, but not to proofread the entire wiki regularly... < 1272556516 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i sometimes help proofread new stuff, but other times i'm just too lazy < 1272556545 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, would it be horribly out of place if I (eventually) fixed a few errors myself? < 1272556554 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course not < 1272556579 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _do_ check recent changes, so if you do something egregious we'll revert it :D < 1272556620 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no, nothing bad (obviously), that would be crazy dumb < 1272556631 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just didn't want to step on any toes < 1272556667 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just few ads for your limb-enlargement pills, but nothing bad. < 1272556708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i generally don't edit user pages. and i wouldn't change fundamental definitions in other people's languages either. but all kinds of fixes and improved writing in the main article space is fine < 1272556751 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :broken links annoy me, but I guess a link to WayBack (if available) is better than nothing < 1272556752 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sometimes worried when an anonymous IP does major changes to a language - i cannot know if it's really the original author < 1272556813 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah if someone just removes a link i often put it back as wayback < 1272556849 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming there is no better one < 1272556893 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, you really need to mirror Cfunge since your server is always down :-P < 1272556914 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, it is gone, the official site is the launchpad project nowdays < 1272556929 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there is a non-updated link somewhere it should be updated < 1272556970 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Befunge page (duh) ;-) < 1272556982 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who'd thunk it? ^_^ < 1272556993 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember my login to the wiki < 1272557000 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I haven't for years now < 1272557040 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you registered email back then you could get a new password, i think < 1272557048 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well that's the problem < 1272557050 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn̈́t < 1272557054 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :didn't* < 1272557261 0 :lereah_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1272557480 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, for instance, Underload page doesn't mention Keymaker's Brainf*** interpreter for it, which I think is a glaring omission < 1272558713 0 :augur!~augur@129-2-175-79.wireless.umd.edu JOIN :#esoteric < 1272559248 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, still here? < 1272559592 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess not < 1272559614 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: I am leaving. You are about to explode. < 1272560238 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back < 1272560241 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo, I was away eating < 1272560250 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did you want? < 1272560392 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT. DO YOU. WANT. < 1272560455 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, this sounds familiar... I can't place it < 1272560458 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what was it a reference to? < 1272560516 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well technically girl genius < 1272560526 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but really i just tried to sound similarly ominous < 1272560555 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hm must have been somewhere else as I know I never read that webcomic < 1272560586 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :possibly it's been done before < 1272560598 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yes, it doesn't require that much imagination < 1272560693 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh i was trying to look it up through tvtropes < 1272560723 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, many results? < 1272560731 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there it's listed as an example of "THIS! IS! SPARTA!" maybe that's what you were thinking of? < 1272560743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, no, definitely not < 1272560753 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean i was trying to find the precise comic < 1272560762 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I see it in a hollow voice. Think death on discworld kind of voice < 1272560772 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm pretty sure it isn't from discworld < 1272560776 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20051005 < 1272560802 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't actually all caps... < 1272560810 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er wait it was < 1272560834 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like all the text, though < 1272560876 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alas it's impossible to google for it, afaik < 1272560931 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and i missed a period.) < 1272561118 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1272561181 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, sorry ... ran off when nobody was looking ^_^ < 1272561363 0 :hiato!~fdulu@41-132-16-47.dsl.mweb.co.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1272561669 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(bah, he's gone again) < 1272563059 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1272563416 0 :fax!~none@unaffiliated/fax JOIN :#esoteric < 1272563424 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAY GUYS HAVE YOU SEEN LOLCODE? < 1272563437 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1272564600 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax, welcome to three years ago. < 1272564629 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaugur < 1272564729 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you wish to ping me, dont misspell my name :| < 1272565032 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(B93) is this code interesting? http://www.pastebin.org/192619 < 1272565050 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note that I didn't (yet) obfuscate it ;-) < 1272565651 0 :cal153!~cal@pool-98-111-83-203.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1272566249 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :already, here it is, barely obfuscated but anyways ... http://www.pastebin.org/192674 < 1272566288 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: I don't theink that does what I first thought it did < 1272566348 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't really have much of a point ;-) < 1272568237 0 :adam_d!~Adam@cpc2-acto6-0-0-cust48.brnt.cable.ntl.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1272568384 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1272568409 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you know Keymaker wrote a Brainf*** version of Underload? < 1272568472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: yes < 1272568481 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I even programmed it into EgoBot a while ago < 1272568485 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well it wasn't listed on the wiki page, so ... < 1272568493 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after modifying it to run as an EgoBot daemon rather than a standalone script < 1272568510 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is EgoBot written in? < 1272568519 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, yes! Didn't we have that in fungot too? Before I wrote the native Underload interp in Befunge in it. < 1272568520 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: you're not a schweinpenis," you mean " common" as in a form that wraps some foreign code, and g as well for more complex examples what the... < 1272568540 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It was... not fast, I think. < 1272568555 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is perhaps understandable. < 1272568594 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fungot ^bf cycle-count limits meant you could run "(hello)S" and maybe a swap of two short strings or something, but not much more. < 1272568595 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: still input is broken as it always display prompt and so on < 1272568723 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: a mix of langs, IIRC < 1272568742 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2008-10-07 23:04:33] < ehird> ^ul (ass)S < 1272568742 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2008-10-07 23:04:39] < fungot> ass < 1272568742 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2008-10-07 23:03:09] < ais523> ^ul (:aSS):aSS < 1272568742 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[2008-10-07 23:03:16] < fungot> ...out of time! < 1272568742 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: while haskell belongs to the fnord page, hopefully it didn't get violent, i guess < 1272568742 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: i got version 360, i'm not < 1272569409 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: food < 1272569715 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quine (needs stack to pop 0 and needs to be on first line where y=0): :0g,1+:94+`#@_ < 1272569732 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now wrap it up like this and it still works < 1272569735 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ > < 1272569735 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::0g,1+:94+`#@_ < 1272569735 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>"N":> #p #0 #\ #g #1 #: #: #: #- #1##_ ^ < 1272569744 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(okay, obviously IRC doesn't handle spaces well) < 1272569754 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you get the idea ;-) < 1272569840 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :side effect: should now work even if your interpreter doesn't pop 0 < 1272569946 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's nothing "obviously" space-unfriendly about IRC, and I'm not sure what (if anything) is wrong re spaces there. < 1272569957 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The > and ^ at the right edge align perfectly, if that's what you mean. < 1272569964 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, maybe it's Opera, it just didn't keep the spaces aligned :-P < 1272569968 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for me < 1272569977 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's possibly your fault for not using a monospaced font. < 1272569981 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably < 1272570036 0 :Rugxulo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyways, I basically (for no reason) wanted a way to test the quine without assuming 0 is popped off empty stack, and just tested in purposely-broken interpreter ... works, so I'm happy < 1272570687 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxulo: Did I show you my graph? < 1272577838 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1272577838 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1272577865 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... How do you use wget on sites that Firefox open a download dialogue for? < 1272577901 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you copy the URL, and wget that < 1272577909 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you need to determine what it is some other way first < 1272577918 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like starting to download, then copy-pasting the URL shown in the download < 1272578022 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1272578075 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, that worked. Thanks. < 1272578412 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.9/20100401213457] < 1272579094 0 :Gracenotes!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1272579705 0 :adam_d!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1272580361 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1272580888 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1272582744 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1272582900 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.2/20100316074819] < 1272582906 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: underflow < 1272583365 0 :ZeroOne!~vsaalo@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1272583619 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hiya < 1272583644 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How come the esolang wiki doesn't present a language of the week? < 1272583662 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or day, or month, for that matter) < 1272583674 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because nobody's set that up < 1272583680 0 :fax!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also why would you want that < 1272583698 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ZeroOne: you can use the random page button, that might work a similar way < 1272583835 0 :coppro!~coppro@unaffiliated/coppro JOIN :#esoteric < 1272583840 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: lawl < 1272583849 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fax: why does every other wiki have an x of the day/week/month/year? < 1272583948 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I find it makes the main page more dynamic and attracts more visitors, not to mention it showcases some of the best work in the wiki < 1272584346 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I could even set that up < 1272584359 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, we need a featured article process < 1272584362 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :many of the articles are junk < 1272584471 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the initial featured articles could be chosen based on [[Special:Popularpages]] and [[Special:Mostrevisions]] < 1272584589 0 :ZeroOne!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and using the random page button wouldn't really work for the exact reason you just mentioned) < 1272584596 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There, I fixed it. < 1272584979 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1272585221 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Hey! Listen! < 1272585240 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Several of my classmates got in trouble [nothing serious, they're just under more scrutiny] for something I did. < 1272585282 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch, what was it? < 1272585283 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So kill them to cover your tracks. < 1272585284 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No one here works in the IT dept. of any schools in NY, right? < 1272585326 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So some of my classmates are wall'ing on the school's Linux system < 1272585336 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I say that I will spam the next person to wall < 1272585357 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So someone walls, and I do yes | write theirlogin < 1272585376 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They discover that closing the SSH client, and going to log in again, fixes it < 1272585403 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I hastily decide to make an infinite loop that will keep doing yes | write theirlogin, in the background < 1272585439 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Took a couple of iterations, but then, for one of them, other uninvolved students start saying that nothing's working < 1272585445 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everything was slowed down to a halt. < 1272585448 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This was on Tuesday.l < 1272585477 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Thursday, we learn that someone who was doing work from home complained. The people sending broadcast messages were put on a list. < 1272585491 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION did not send any broadcast messages.. < 1272585510 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Your IT department lets arbitrary users wall? < 1272585521 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang, that's dumb. < 1272585531 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not anymore < 1272585542 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1272585550 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The binary was deleted, apparently < 1272585574 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's dumbtarded.