< 1275782406 0 :chuck!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, hahaha, nice < 1275782433 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, I remember you ... well, i remember you being in here, just not anything about you < 1275782462 0 :chuck!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me? haha < 1275782473 0 :chuck!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i may have accidentally stumbled in here and idled for a few months maybe < 1275782482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wish you were the chuck that drafted agora's ruleset, then you'd be interesting < 1275782521 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Place menu.xml, rc.xml and autostart.sh in ~/.config/openbox < 1275782521 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They can be found in /etc/xdg/openbox < 1275782526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, pacman, you could have done that yourself. < 1275782531 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lazy package manager... < 1275782560 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's see if this works < 1275782562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1275782627 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If "pacman" and "mmaker" are both Arch Linux programs, why is it broken like that? < 1275782636 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps you can file a bug report < 1275782849 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1275783113 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275783127 0 :augur!~augur@216-164-33-76.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275784579 0 :alise!~ehird@91.105.71.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1275784583 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blargh; I think xfce was better < 1275784592 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is something akin to the epitome of fussitude < 1275784671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :16:03:47 If "pacman" and "mmaker" are both Arch Linux programs, why is it broken like that? < 1275784674 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a good question < 1275784680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a suspicion mmaker isn't just Arch < 1275784684 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://menumaker.sourceforge.net/ < 1275784685 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed < 1275784728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need someone to endorse xfce4 so i feel ok about using it < 1275785034 0 :jabb!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I feel the control flow in Mimsy could be better, but it's hard to find an alternative < 1275785052 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- were the borogaves, and the nome raths outgrabe. if I have my spelling right < 1275785067 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*borogoves, *mome. < 1275785087 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1275785118 0 :jabb!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :great poem < 1275785352 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Godel, Escher, Bach, contain, same poem but in English, French, German. < 1275785398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you sure it's GEB that contains Jabberwocky? < 1275785402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not his book on translation? < 1275785427 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it does contain Jabberwocky, I will check the chapter number right now < 1275785442 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chapter XI < 1275785451 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chapter XII < 1275785456 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chapter XIIII < 1275785463 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, there is no chapter number. < 1275785478 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chapter CCCLXVI < 1275785486 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, page 366 < 1275785508 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half of the chapters are not real chapter numbers < 1275785522 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gah, I still have an urge to typeset the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. < 1275785542 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then, perhaps you can do so? < 1275785556 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you going to include the appendix? < 1275785574 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would, but I'd need to find some text for it that has some sort of delineation to mark the italic portions; and some way to distinguish the open and close quotes. < 1275785582 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If I had that, I could easily convert it into LaTeX and go from there. < 1275785585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: H2G2 has an appendix? < 1275785605 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I don't know if it does. But you can include it anyways if you really want to? < 1275785636 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure, as a work of fiction, that it doesn't. < 1275785641 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although House of Leaves probably has an appendix, and a tonsil. < 1275785642 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :appendix, spleen, tonsil, take your pick < 1275785647 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hello don woods < 1275785667 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: i was thinking of the INTERCAL manual there < 1275785694 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait < 1275785701 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what you were referring to < 1275785703 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes :P < 1275785706 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The work of fiction "Harper's Challenge" does have appendices! ("Harper's Challenge" is a book working with me and some other people; and most of the data in the appendices are useless to to most people outside that group) < 1275785735 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: i thought you meant house of leaves _actually_ had a tonsil. well i guess could be an INTERCAL homage < 1275785736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, uh, Douglas Adams was too awesome for appendices. < 1275785738 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So there. < 1275785747 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(But other people can still read the appendix if you want to read it anyways, in case you like to.) < 1275785749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it doesn't, but with all the /other/ things that book has, it must have at lesat an appendix < 1275785762 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: You can't do upside-down, spiral, coloured, ... text and not have an appendix, really. < 1275785785 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd need an umbilical too, i think < 1275785793 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at the front) < 1275785869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was about to ask "is the umbilical removable?". < 1275785930 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*+cord < 1275785960 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"After contacting the original author by the (nowadays nostalgic) means of sending an e-mail to crowther@sitename, where sitename was every host currently on the Internet" < 1275785973 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1275785984 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ucb!vax!... < 1275786057 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um that wouldn't be Internet, would it? < 1275786064 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uucp iirc < 1275786071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget what the exact paths looked like. < 1275786080 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I know it passed through a lot of non-"Internet" nodes. < 1275786090 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A lot of conversion and whatnot, and also path components with their own curious semantics. < 1275786102 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Was a wonderful time, not that I saw it, a wonderful, chaotic time, but a wonderful time nontheless. < 1275786107 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nonetheless < 1275786114 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought the Internet was sort of defined by having the usual dot addresses < 1275786145 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There probably are valid Internet E-Mail addresses that don't have dots in them... < 1275786148 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an epilogue in the fourth book (of h2g2), that might be considered as a sort of an appendix. < 1275786187 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION takes a look at it. I don't remember that epilogue. A strange one it is. < 1275786200 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: e-mail != internet, is what i thought < 1275786213 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :usenet definitely was not the same as internet < 1275786217 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The epilogue and the story are a bit unrelated. < 1275786257 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no technical reason why TLDs can't have MX records, and in fact, some do. < 1275786267 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: oh well, that. < 1275786292 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :governments should set up ccTLD email addresses for everyone < 1275786320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's a very bad idea < 1275786325 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :governments should stay the fuck out of the internet < 1275786397 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes and no. Yes, the Internet should not be controlled by governments, but it would be unreasonable to let anyone else set up ccTLD email addresses for a nations' citizens < 1275786411 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you mean like foo@uk? < 1275786422 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really believe in ccTLDs for people, anyway. People move. < 1275786431 0 :Oranjer!~HP_Admini@adsl-243-205-116.cae.bellsouth.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275786434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corporations, sure, corporations never "move" as such. < 1275786464 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :People, though, and groups that aren't specific to one country, shouldn't be on ccTLDs. The whole point of the Internet, more or less, is to remove geographical boundaries from the picture. < 1275786995 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Lost terminal < 1275787362 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I make hypernet, using hypernet there is no TLDs or anything like that, and no central authorities or central servers, it is completely decentralized. Central authorities are for defining standard protocols and nothing else. Hypernet can pass through anything, including internet, sneakernet disks, ham radio, barcodes, even by somebody remembering all of the numbers and then traveling to another country to type number on other guy's computer! < 1275787389 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A hypernet address might look like the following, for example: FM/4.30/DS.AXYPPRAPPREIOTUMQOIZUNVKKOURA.401 < 1275787440 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or: FP/1.111.129944.393.4491.22/ST.OAJDGOIJWENTIVNNURNRUUEJJEOQNEIRNNF.62 < 1275787478 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("FM" is "file (menu)", "FP" is "file (plain) < 1275787492 0 :ec!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1275787493 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :", "DS" is "digital signature", "ST" is "static", etc) < 1275787563 0 :ec!~ec@ec2-174-129-205-205.compute-1.amazonaws.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275787666 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1275787838 0 :ws!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ... < 1275787874 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: +++ < 1275788567 0 :Gregor!~Gregor@user1341.newres.utoronto.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1275788658 0 :alise!~alise@91.105.71.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1275788689 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello. < 1275788735 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, http://omploader.org/vNGlocw (safe for work) < 1275788743 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, detail of the panorama thing in lego < 1275788747 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, I don't not click NSFW links. :P < 1275788768 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT BUT YOUR CHILDISH INNOCENCE < 1275788782 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, okay, http://omploader.org/vNGlobQ http://omploader.org/vNGlobg (sfw, at least if you work at lego, otherwise boss might think you should grow up) ;P < 1275788788 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, now that is both SFW and NSFW < 1275788796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW WILL YOU HANDLE THAT? < 1275788808 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay, now make porn involving it < 1275788816 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I can't imagine that < 1275788818 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just can't < 1275788828 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you'd need to add a few holes < 1275788859 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, lego has a lot of holes in all those technic 1xn bricks < 1275788872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as well as in the technic beams < 1275788896 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, also filebin is down < 1275788906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q: I always disable the user list in IRC clients; am I crazy? < 1275788907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which mean I can't upload video of it's operation < 1275788908 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1275788912 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yes < 1275788917 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: Crazy suggestion here -- YouTube < 1275788922 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, right? YouTube for videos? < 1275788924 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sheesh! < 1275788929 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: But... /names < 1275788941 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well, depends on your needs I guess < 1275788963 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, the tabs layout looks ugly with this xfce theme. < 1275788967 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, as an op, to review the user list, quite useful to have one on the side < 1275788973 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what? No I don't want to become famous due to youtube ;P < 1275788979 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster, you can make videos private < 1275788981 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :plus I forgot if I had an account there or not < 1275788982 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only visible to those with url < 1275788997 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and if I had an account, what the fuck the user name was < 1275789000 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or password < 1275789011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh... on one hand, xfce is convenient < 1275789022 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, it'd be better if i was motivated enough to make something i like myself < 1275789023 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, anyway I had problems recoding it. I got quicktime from my camera < 1275789038 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffmpeg to recode as ogg theora gave abysmal quality < 1275789053 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I made powerpill give aria quiet=true, because no matter how many packages I install they always download instantly < 1275789061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And aria2 is really noisy < 1275789066 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I never see any download progress at all :-) < 1275789077 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gotta love that download-all-dependencies-at-once-from-hundreds-of-servers-at-once tactic. < 1275789082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surefire way to max out your connection. < 1275789130 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My current desktop: http://imgur.com/cDUlo.png < 1275789140 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guess what login manager I'm using, anyone... < 1275789226 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll tell you the browser, Namoroka. Which is apparently Mozilla's latest "can't touch this" alternative for those not blessed to use its real name, Firefox. < 1275789227 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about /bin/login < 1275789267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: xdm. < 1275789276 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly enough, xdm can be made to look good. < 1275789295 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You go into its Xresources file, disable all the borders, use an Xft font, and make it use actual RGB colours. < 1275789436 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Btw, hackego broke agin. < 1275789476 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275789476 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275789479 0 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275789479 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275789505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it happens when you give it a lot of commands at once, I think < 1275789530 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even more so than usual I don't have time to deal with that now :P < 1275789573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh, then you'll be interested to know ALL my ideas for lonelydino!-- < 1275789583 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And that was, in fact, sarcasm, just in case you were wondering. :P < 1275789590 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okidoke. < 1275789793 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whaaaat? Pidgin depends on cdparanoia. < 1275789806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1275789812 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it depends on some GStreamer thing which depends on cdparanoia. < 1275789937 0 :augur!~augur@pool-74-96-17-107.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275790153 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi augur. < 1275790160 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey alise < 1275790170 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello suspiciously cordial people. < 1275790171 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am having real trouble finding a good text source for H2G2. :-( < 1275790309 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SOMEONE FIND IT FOR ME. < 1275790600 0 :relet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1275790736 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: And a splendid night to you too < 1275790796 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, powerpill? aria? < 1275790803 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wft? < 1275790805 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf* < 1275790817 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :powerpill is a wrapper around the Arch package manager pacman < 1275790820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it uses aria2 to do downloads < 1275790830 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aria2 is a program that, given a file -- called a metalink or some nonsense -- < 1275790844 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :will download a file from many servers, listed in the file, at once -- including HTTP, FTP, bittorrent, etc. < 1275790851 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we're talking dozens of servers at once for one single file < 1275790856 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the effect is, it completely maxes out your connection < 1275790865 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if you never get full speed, aria2 certainly will < 1275790872 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that's not nice < 1275790881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the whole point is speed... < 1275790883 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aalnetiquette and so on < 1275790886 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :?? < 1275790888 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, * netiquette and so on < 1275790889 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275790889 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275790891 0 :HackEgo!~HackEgo@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275790891 0 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.xen.prgmr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1275790891 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're an idiot < 1275790892 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what I meant to type < 1275790895 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does it violate netiquette? < 1275790903 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't overload any server < 1275790907 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well, it hogs a lot of mirrors < 1275790913 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it doesn't hog them < 1275790920 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway it's officially supported by a lot of stuff, so that's just rubbish < 1275790920 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://aria2.sourceforge.net/ < 1275790924 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes it slower for other users if they are already near fully loaded < 1275790930 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, okay then < 1275790946 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, anyway, the mirror I use maxes my connection with normal wget < 1275790949 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I'm happy < 1275790958 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maxes as in all you ever get, or maxes as in what your ISP says you should get? < 1275790963 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aria2 gives you the latter almost always < 1275790971 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, powerpill just downloads all the files of a package and its dependencies with aria2 given all the arch mirrors. < 1275790976 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, those two are close to each other < 1275790976 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(simultaneously) < 1275790980 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should get 8 mbit/s < 1275790997 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AnMaster: I used to get 200-300KiB/s on downloads usually. 8 Mbit rated connection. aria2 gave me 800 KiB/s. < 1275791000 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I get 950 kB/s normally < 1275791004 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far away from exchange < 1275791019 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I'm just 50 kiB short of what I should get < 1275791025 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that is probably TCP overhead and such < 1275791031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're lucky. Most people aren't so. < 1275791074 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that is when I'm lucky, more often I get around 800 kiB/s from mirrors.kernel.org < 1275791084 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, which is still very good < 1275791104 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and about what you got with aria2 < 1275791129 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, just use a good mirror, like mirrors.kernel.org < 1275791138 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've used every mirror there is, more or less < 1275791146 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, mirrors.kernel.org is just 12 hops away from me < 1275791159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ host mirrors.kernel.org < 1275791159 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mirrors.kernel.org is an alias for mirrors.geo.kernel.org. < 1275791164 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1275791168 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it goes to a mirror in Sweden < 1275791169 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1275791175 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umu.se < 1275791183 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is Umeå University < 1275791195 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is in north Sweden, so could have been closer < 1275791213 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, still best mirror ever for me, much better than other .se mirrors < 1275791380 0 :AnMaster!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1275791380 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, is picking the parts that I want, and scaling back if it goes over $1000, sensible? < 1275791384 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Night AnMaster < 1275791460 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAEMONS=(syslog-ng @network !netfs @crond @oss) < 1275791468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ASYNCHRONICITY FUCK YEAH < 1275791556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone used xfce's wm? < 1275791565 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do I stop it focusing a window when I use the scroll wheel in it? < 1275792298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1275792467 0 :alise!~alise@91.105.71.38 JOIN :#esoteric < 1275792653 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it with yaourt and baffling periods of complete silence in which it does nothing? < 1275793232 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone know what part of gstreamer offers gstreamer-properties(1)? < 1275793487 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sqlite3.c:45653:34: warning: assuming signed overflow does not occur when assuming that (X + c) >= X is always true < 1275793496 0 :calamari!~calamari@ip70-162-184-205.ph.ph.cox.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1275793509 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh no, it's calamari. < 1275793519 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ??? :) < 1275793527 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, you're an octopus! < 1275793540 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not exactly an ... alive one, admittedly, but... < 1275793541 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope, you're safe < 1275793552 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a squid < 1275793560 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, right < 1275793561 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although arent octopus worse? < 1275793566 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err squid < 1275793567 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1275793575 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all those deep sea things with tentacles are basically the same imo < 1275793580 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no point distinguishing them right? < 1275793589 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really.. octopus are much smarter than squid < 1275793600 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, I really care about that :-P < 1275793631 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and besides, calamari is actually a star wars return of the jedi reference < 1275793636 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gosh, the Mozilla source code really does take a long time to compile. < 1275793649 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serves me right for installing OSSv4. < 1275793662 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should have stuck with the nice big friendly, warm ball of mud that is ALSA. < 1275793684 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How on earth that is related to Mozilla, you may all speculate. < 1275793696 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried OSSv4 but it wouldn't recognize my sound card < 1275793747 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just use onboard sound because the only sound card that matters is Soundblaster anyway < 1275793752 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you have, some silly X-Fi nonsense? :P < 1275793823 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's an older card that I've kept around because I like my roland sound canvas daughterboard (for midi) < 1275793842 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:02.0 Multimedia audio controller: Aureal Semiconductor Vortex 2 (rev fe) < 1275793864 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it really is something like turtle beach montego < 1275793906 0 :CakeProphet!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1275793925 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :came installed in a dell p3 600MHz < 1275793979 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, get a Roland MT-32. < 1275793988 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then fail to ever figure out how to connect it properly. Like I did! < 1275794008 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But seriously, that MT-32 is a beast. Totally reprogrammable sounds, perfect-sounding default set... < 1275794026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has a little LED display; games used to display little messages on them when they started up as a goodie to whoever was lucky enough to own an MT-32. < 1275794032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surprisingly heavy! < 1275794045 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sound that comes out has a little analogue fuzz in the background; quite endearing. < 1275794083 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I don't have that unit, but the card I have is basically related < 1275794089 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably has the same sound set < 1275794137 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :calamari: but that's the thing, the base MT-32 set isn't the special thing < 1275794144 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be reprogrammed on-the-spot to produce different sounds < 1275794153 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so indeed the things that sound so good with the MT-32 are because they reprogram it < 1275794157 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thus the imitation cards are basically useless < 1275794356 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the turtle beach card can be reprogrammed.. but I liked the sound set on the scb-15 so I use it < 1275794368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a beach with turtles < 1275794407 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried different sound fonts, and it just never sounded right.. I'd heard the songs too many times the other way < 1275794434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the music from Monkey Island on an MT-32. < 1275794440 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually iirc mt-32 was a selectable subset < 1275794447 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't the main sounds < 1275794459 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sounds fresh 19 years later. Or is it 20? Gosh. < 1275794466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm saying "gosh" an awful lot today. < 1275794480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xulrunner-oss is *still* building. < 1275794515 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and dd_rescue has been trying to pull bits from this microSD card for around 24 hours now < 1275794527 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish I could tell the kernel not to try so hard < 1275794551 0 :calamari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it's a broken card, no need for three 180 second timeouts to confirm that < 1275794591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the answer to "why do I need to rebuild xulrunner because of my sound system", incidentally, is "because