00:00:41 Hm, 850 results 00:01:02 Are there any APIs for programmatically searching through the web archive? 00:01:59 "With Avatar now in Post Production," 00:02:02 BULLSHIT 00:02:08 [Not the Cameron Avatar] 00:02:14 [Nor the Airbending one] 00:05:45 -!- tombom has quit (Quit: Leaving). 00:12:04 hmmm... actually. 00:12:11 gen_fsm might make for a good object proces 00:12:16 MUD object, that is 00:25:17 -!- MigoMipo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 00:27:05 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 00:36:12 CakeProphet: so basically everything in the mud is an asynchronous message-passing finite state machine? 00:36:24 Including inert pieces of information? Sounds to me like you've implemented STUFF. 00:40:57 alise: no no, basically everything in the mud is touched by his noodly appendages! 00:41:18 Sexy. 01:04:45 -!- Sgeo_ has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 01:04:52 -!- Sgeo has joined. 01:11:29 -!- Oranjer has left (?). 01:12:56 alise: No I'm not really implementing STUFF... that's just how Erlang works in the first place. 01:13:25 Right, but in MOOs /everything/ would be one of those processes, in Erlang you have other-stuff too. 01:13:34 Just saying... even your data is STUFF. 01:14:01 ...I guess? 01:14:14 It's all rather arbitrary. 01:14:42 but I wouldn't really say it's unified. Not everything is going to be gen_fsm 01:15:15 specifically the MUD data. 01:15:22 would be finite state machines. 01:15:27 Hm 01:15:36 http://oddessey.org/ 01:15:59 Lie, or really long wait and suspiciously unupdated copyright notice? 01:17:08 -!- selckiku has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 01:20:15 -!- FireFly has quit (Quit: swatted to death). 01:20:23 Erlang's documentation is really confusing. 01:22:32 Sgeo: "The Project LLC" 01:22:33 lawl 01:23:23 Why does everything associated in any way with Blaxxun appear to be lietastic? 01:23:41 Oddessey, Cytonia's Avatar, The CVN claiming that Blaxxun was A-OK 01:25:05 Oh, and I don't rememeber if Hawk ever stated that Cybertown would never be a mandatory-subscription service, but if he did, that was a lie 01:25:33 I remember seeing a proposal for optional subscription 01:28:13 Hm, this person is IVN's representative in Cybertown 01:28:18 I almost want to leave hatemail 01:30:45 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 01:30:46 Another IVN lie: Silhouette. Some thing that would allow video broadcast into Cybertown's 3d world. 01:46:19 -!- Oranjer has joined. 01:46:46 Gah, I'm looking at Oleg's site again. 01:46:54 I may soon feel inferior. 01:47:02 You didn't feel inferior from the first page? 01:47:07 Your ego is too big! 01:47:22 The first page is a mere index. 01:47:32 Not quite enough to cue a full inferiority complex. 01:47:37 Well, half then. 01:47:41 Second page should seal it. 01:47:47 Click any one of those links, though, and it's sealed. 01:48:44 Even the email link. 01:48:55 Yes, even that. Somehow. :P 01:49:12 You realise that whatever you typed it'd seem amateurish. 01:49:45 EVEN http://okmij.org/ftp/Venus.html 01:50:12 Hmm, there actually is no email link 01:50:32 -!- augur has joined. 01:52:37 * oerjan never thought he'd laugh at a picture of Angela Merkel http://i.imgur.com/GsC20.png 01:52:57 (well technically several pictures) 01:53:03 hmmmm 01:53:21 I bet I could construct appup files for Erlang using information from version control. 01:53:56 since, in simple cases, you're just specifying which modules to reload, add, and remove. 01:57:23 -!- Oranjer has left (?). 02:13:17 * Sgeo tends to feel inferior to everyone here 02:38:45 -!- coppro has joined. 02:43:22 i'm just reading oleg randomly 02:43:26 it's like a random walk in awesome 02:43:32 Sgeo: por que? 02:44:06 it probably just means you're not as full of yourself as some of us. 02:45:50 well, there are certainly some pretty awesome people in here 02:46:09 not all of us win £25,000 prizes for proving an unsolved problem in CS (even if it's one only wolfram cares about) 02:49:26 -!- GreaseMonkey has joined. 02:52:28 If that succeeds, and if you can afford to consume perhaps several days of 02:52:28 cpu time and over a hundred megabytes of disk space, try 02:52:28 make giant-test 02:55:34 Sounds like a pretty giant test. 03:03:04 OVER A HUNDRED MEGABYTES OF DISK SPACE!! 03:03:12 IN 1992! 03:03:15 :P 03:04:13 > (compile-nqthm) ; takes a few minutes on a contemporary workstation 03:04:13 ; compilation finished in 0:00:00.215 03:05:06 ... 03:05:34 ... howso 03:05:52 obsessing about how much faster it is gets old 03:06:49 not obsessing 03:06:50 just amused 03:07:16 a few minutes on a good workstation to less than a third of a second on a low-end machine is pretty good for 18 years 03:07:26 bsmntbombdood: well he has to use up the time he saved, somehow... 03:08:10 alise, linky? 03:08:42 ftp://ftp.cs.utexas.edu/pub/boyer/nqthm/index.html 03:08:53 it's the boyer-moore prover that automatically proved e.g. goedel's incompleteness theorem 03:09:10 well i guess not totally automatically 03:09:32 I thought it was proved without computer? 03:11:18 duh 03:11:30 that doesn't mean it can't be proved again 03:13:30 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 03:14:41 A quite long-winded proof that a*b = b*a: 03:14:42 http://pastie.org/1002224.txt?key=vht0kabp2wpqpkjyzcwspg 03:20:08 -!- Oranjer has joined. 03:23:25 alise, do you ever feel nostalgic? 03:23:56 * Sgeo needs some advice 03:24:19 :o 03:24:20 What advice? 03:24:29 are you sure you want advice from alise? 03:24:41 i remember feeling nostalgic once. good times. 03:25:00 As you know, I'm working on a remake of a game. I'm worried that certain differences might be like giving the nostaligic persons the middle finger 03:25:29 So far, for me, the most nostalgic-inducing place is the Altar, which has music that's similar, but not the same, as the original 03:25:33 Thigns like that 03:25:40 And that that game had magic, this one doesn't 03:25:50 Things will be in different locations, etc. 03:26:01 my advice is that you have serious issues with nostalgia 03:26:04 also that it doesn't matter at all 03:26:05 I can't really make a judgement, because I've spend a portion of time in this new place 03:26:15 and you're probably the only person who would take disruption of nostalgia as a middle finger 03:27:07 Hm. I guess when the alpha opens to the public, we'll find out 03:28:02 -!- augur has joined. 03:29:01 At the very least, this portion of the game seems to satisfy my nostalgic cravings, despite the music and appearance being different 03:29:07 The ground's the same snow white 03:30:00 -!- lament has joined. 03:37:35 -!- coppro has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 03:38:52 -!- coppro has joined. 03:39:42 -!- lament has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds). 03:40:28 -!- coppro has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 03:46:10 pikhq: why doesn't oleg suck at even one thing? 03:48:51 What's Oleg's website? 03:48:55 http://okmij.org/ftp/ 03:49:06 Note how the site contains FUCKING EVERYTHING. 03:50:37 there's everything from xml libraries in scheme to stuff about theorem proving to mathematics to type system hackery to c++ stuff to unix pipes to fixed-point combinators to using sendmail as a turing machine to ... 03:50:42 ... operating systems to ... 03:55:36 I wonder what Scheme Oleg uses. 03:56:08 -!- Mathnerd314 has joined. 04:16:10 4:15; ho hum. 04:16:12 sleep soon, presumably. 04:18:39 * alise yawns 04:24:17 I would have thought Sgeo would be with the pitchforks to get me to sleep. 04:26:08 Was AFK 04:26:21 Also, I kind of didn't go to sleep last night >.> 04:26:26 Going to go to sleep early tonight 04:26:28 Already ate 04:26:47 Also, go to sleep! Don't turn into me! Although you're kind of worse than I am 04:27:02 Is your computer in your room? Move it elsewhere? 04:27:08 No! I like it in my room :| 04:27:11 And meh, it's only 4:26. 04:27:16 I can get up late tomorrow, right? 04:28:21 Idea: Either set an earlier time for yourself to go to sleep, or move the computer out of your room 04:28:45 How much do you really get done when you know you should be sleeping? 04:29:17 Moving wakeful time earlier, to when you should be awake, gives you time where you'll allow yourself to do stuff that takes time 04:29:52 It was kind of dizzying today when I was up at 6AM and had the whole day ahead of me 04:31:41 I made a rule for myself for today: No coding after dinner 04:34:10 -!- gm|lap has joined. 04:35:15 -!- GreaseMonkey has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 04:36:10 > (words (read-line)) 04:36:10 Take the lamp. 04:36:10 '("take" "lamp") 04:36:11 yay 04:36:24 * alise makes them symbols for easier comparison 04:36:50 -!- coppro has joined. 04:37:37 > (words "Take the lamp.") 04:37:38 '(Take lamp) 04:37:42 (Take will compare equal with take) 04:38:10 oh, or not 04:39:03 > (words "Take the lamp.") 04:39:03 '(take lamp) 04:39:04 there 04:42:13 Sgeo: gimme some junk words to disregard in an adventure game's commands apart from "the" 04:42:44 that 04:42:50 this 04:42:58 Or you could pay attention to those, I guess 04:43:08 But that would be an .. interesting thing to force on the user 04:43:32 Although I guess "There is a blue lamp here. There is a gold lamp far away" "> take this lamp" 04:43:40 Not forcing, and yet still useful 04:43:57 should I have "A and B" split into A \n B? 04:43:58 I think not 04:44:02 you never know what A might do 04:47:15 1> (words "Kill that rabbit") 04:47:16 '(kill rabbit) 04:47:16 1> (words "Take rabbit's lamp") 04:47:16 '(take rabbit s lamp) 04:48:15 eviscerate lagomorph 04:50:44 * Sgeo wants to take a nap. It's almost midnight 04:50:53 -!- coppro has quit (Quit: I am leaving. You are about to explode.). 04:50:53 it's 4:50 04:50:56 oh god it is daylight 04:50:59 help 04:51:14 YOU ARE DOOMED. DOOMED. *MWAHAHAHA* 04:51:30 alise, move computer out of room 04:51:39 I may have to do that, I'm trying to avoid needing to do that 04:52:36 to where? 04:52:40 and no, i value my privacy. also my computer 04:55:54 So to avoid needing to do that, force yourself to go to sleep sooner 04:55:58 I'm going to sleep soon 04:56:10 http://pastie.org/1002281.txt?key=f74rclssjuwkkqytvfkx6g Some hypothetical adventure code. Really, it should have a notion of objects in a room... 04:58:53 * Sgeo is tired 04:59:07 * Sgeo hopes he didn't give himself cancer by not sleeping last night 04:59:16 you gave yourself cancer. 05:01:06 well friends, soon would be a good time to bed 05:01:26 Night alise 05:01:45 good night alise 05:01:51 not right now! 05:01:52 just soon 05:01:52 >_> 05:02:14 -!- ChanServ has set channel mode: +o oerjan. 05:02:20 RIGHT NOW 05:02:25 -!- coppro has joined. 05:03:12 oerjan: like that would stop me 05:03:30 -!- oerjan has set channel mode: -o oerjan. 05:07:12 well good night 05:07:23 -!- alise has quit (Quit: Leaving). 05:13:08 -!- Gracenotes has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 05:41:26 -!- gm|lap has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds). 05:44:02 Dear God, Rock Band 3 is crazy. 05:44:13 Gregor: They're shipping actual instruments for that game. 05:44:18 *Actual musical instruments*. 05:44:44 How musical 05:45:07 Granted, they're all MIDI instruments (literally; they have MIDI ports), but still. 05:45:44 next up: an FPS shipped with actual weapons 05:45:45 How musical 05:46:52 * oerjan afks again 05:51:25 -!- augur has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds). 05:57:40 -!- MizardX has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds). 06:00:08 The guitar controller is either a 102 button monstrosity... Or a guitar that *happens* to have sensors in the fretboard and MIDI and USB out. 06:06:07 Gregor: there is a 2 octave keyboard coming with it 06:06:29 And an adapter to let you use a real keyboard... 06:06:37 (or any arbitrary MIDI device, really) 06:06:59 So in other words, it's sufficiently musical that the ninnies who play that game will cry. 06:07:11 Also, a two-octave keyboard is a joke. 06:07:38 Just "pro mode". The other modes (which you may now call "noob modes", IMO) are as previously. 06:08:17 The keyboard is a joke, yeah. But the guitar thing... Is an *actual freaking guitar*. And played as such. 06:08:33 It's a fake-instrument type game that I can actually kinda respect. 06:10:54 -!- Oranjer has left (?). 06:11:16 -!- augur has joined. 06:16:53 -!- ais523 has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:36:56 -!- coppro has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 06:59:12 -!- rus_bear has joined. 06:59:29 greetings, strangers! 07:00:34 Greetings be unto ye. 07:04:26 Do you talk about esoteric here? And what is that, what do you think? 07:04:54 Nominally, we discuss esoteric programming languages. 07:05:08 In practice, we discuss just about everything but esotericism. 07:06:31 what languages are esoteric? It's AMAZING *_* 07:06:46 -!- Gregor has set topic: Crystal healing, astrology, oracles, divine and occult knowledge, esoteric programming languages, ethereal and astral projection, government conspiracies to deny common paranormal events | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D. 07:07:03 I know Pascal, C++ and Basic, Are they esoteric? 07:07:05 * oerjan swats Gregor -----### 07:07:10 ^^ 07:07:11 Brainfuck, Whitespace, Befunge, INTERCAL... 07:07:13 =) 07:07:19 Wow! 07:07:33 Why are they esoteric? 07:08:32 The primary criteria seems to be being decidedly *odd* and not practical. 07:09:38 Why do you need them, if they're not practical? 07:09:47 ... Need? 07:09:55 yep... 07:10:06 Esoteric programming languages are *amusing*. 07:10:20 ^bf >+++++++++[<++++++++>-]<.>+++++++[<++++>-]<+.+++++++..+++.>>>++++++++[<++++>-]<.>>>++++++++++[<+++++++++>-]<---.<<<<.+++.------.--------.>>+. 07:10:20 Hello World! 07:10:28 The point is not to be needed, but rather to be *interesting*. 07:10:30 okay, i get it=) 07:10:34 thanks 07:10:48 Arguably, portions of C++ also fit this criteria. 07:11:06 (see: Boost) 07:11:28 (namely, the source code of Boost; the API presented by Boost isn't quite so esoteric. But there be magic within.) 07:11:42 I think c++ is practical language, cuz a lot of people use it to write serious apps 07:11:58 In spite of the language, sure. 07:12:44 c++ is a powerful language, I want to learn Python now... 07:12:54 C++ is an unimplemented language. 07:13:06 * oerjan whispers: haskell haskell haskell 07:13:13 why& 07:13:14 ? 07:14:02 C++ has so *much* in the language that it's damned near impossible to even write a *parser* for it, much less a full implementation. 07:15:08 do you make apps with c++? 07:15:28 Same way one does in any other language; one simply writes code. 07:15:35 pikhq: there was this proof you couldn't parse perl at compile-time, is there something similar for C++? 07:16:06 oerjan: I've not seen such a proof, but this *is* true of C++. 07:16:24 -!- coppro has joined. 07:17:13 As determining the actual parse of a possible-declaration depends upon determining if something is a type, and to do that you need to solve the halting problem. 07:17:47 Or actually execute the compile-time lambda calculus. I mean, type system. 07:17:53 hm 07:19:48 are we discussing perl? 07:19:58 Primarily C++. 07:20:02 oh 07:20:17 * coppro looks at logs 07:20:21 Perl has parse-time Perl, not compile-time lambda calculus. :) 07:21:12 ah, yes 07:21:59 yeah, C++ is unparseable in the sense that Perl is 07:22:15 but for a different reason 07:22:30 Except slightly less so, as there *is* a greater distinction between the compile-time and run-time semantics in C++ than Perl. 07:22:40 right 07:23:10 Bah. My GC is faster than Boehm on binary-trees but slower on gcbench. 07:23:13 (the compile-time semantics of C++ have absolutely no side effects, so at least one can perform the parsing *statically*) 07:24:15 If C++ templates had side effects, it'd be nearly impossible to compile. 07:24:37 Hmm. This sounds like a good idea. Anyone got an in with the standards committee? :P 07:24:47 I do! 07:24:55 Awesome. 07:25:16 and actually, compiling templates do have one side effect, which is that the template is then compiled 07:25:34 Ah, yes. I'm not really considering that much of a side effect, though. 07:25:47 I'm thinking more along the lines of having full IO capabilities. 07:25:51 :D 07:25:55 you're an evil evil man 07:26:35 I think dgregor would fail me in GSOC if I suggested that 07:28:34 -!- coppro has left (?). 07:28:45 -!- coppro has joined. 07:28:49 oops 07:29:20 hmm... ethereal projection, was that in a splatbook? 07:29:49 Almost certainly. 07:30:20 true 07:30:31 eh, good enough for me! 07:30:31 what's a splatbook 07:31:19 * oerjan performs a google divination 07:31:30 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/splatbook 07:31:43 oerjan: A "splatbook" is a expansion book for an RPG, particularly D&D, particularly a poorly thought-out one. 07:32:01 coppro: that's the same page i'm currently looking at. you're psychic! 07:32:41 and the term has evolved to mean what pikhq said 07:33:17 D&D 3.5 has some *really* stupid expansions out there. 07:33:52 yeah 07:34:08 Creating ways to achieve nigh-infinite stats from level 3... 07:34:33 I think they've got it down to 2 07:34:39 or maybe that's just the omniscient one 07:34:49 Down to 1 if you count "Pazuzu Pazuzu Pazuzu". 07:35:05 haven't heard that one 07:35:07 * coppro googles 07:35:29 Summon Pazuzu, wish for a candle of wish, IIRC. 07:35:50 oh, an infinite wish thing? 07:36:22 Something like that. 07:40:02 -!- rus_bear has left (?). 07:40:13 lolunrealfail 07:40:36 fiannafail 07:41:15 lolo 07:41:21 lollolfail 07:43:16 -!- pikhq has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 07:59:59 -!- clog has quit (ended). 08:00:00 -!- clog has joined. 08:01:38 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 08:01:52 -!- augur has joined. 08:05:50 -!- poiuy_qwert has quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep). 08:20:16 -!- lament has joined. 08:42:22 -!- lament has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 09:27:12 -!- oerjan has quit (Quit: Good night). 09:30:04 -!- lament has joined. 09:33:19 -!- augur has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer). 09:33:37 -!- augur has joined. 09:35:12 -!- augur has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 09:35:23 -!- augur has joined. 10:18:17 -!- FireFly has joined. 10:23:30 -!- tombom has joined. 10:44:08 -!- coppro has quit (Remote host closed the connection). 10:54:52 -!- augur has quit (Quit: Leaving...). 11:01:43 -!- augur has joined. 11:02:21 -!- lament has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds). 11:06:25 -!- augur has quit (Client Quit). 11:18:11 -!- augur has joined. 11:30:38 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 11:53:03 Erlang's documentation is really confusing. <--- is it? 11:53:21 I bet I could construct appup files for Erlang using information from version control. <-- cool idea 12:02:30 -!- relet has joined. 12:02:46 -!- MigoMipo has joined. 12:11:55 -!- BeholdMyGlory has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds). 12:15:15 -!- BeholdMyGlory has joined. 12:17:36 -!- relet has quit (Quit: Leaving.). 13:12:47 -!- Gracenotes has joined. 13:25:02 -!- Quadrescence has quit (Quit: omghaahhahaohwow). 13:25:49 -!- chickenzilla has left (?). 13:27:09 -!- Quadrescence has joined. 13:41:03 -!- relet has joined. 13:44:52 -!- sebbu2 has joined. 13:46:36 -!- sebbu has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds). 13:46:36 -!- sebbu2 has changed nick to sebbu. 14:00:13 -!- hiato has joined. 14:08:25 -!- alise has joined. 14:21:18 -!- hiato has quit (Quit: underflow). 14:44:33 -!- poiuy_qwert has joined. 14:45:08 huh, strange file: /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh.dpkg-obsolete 14:49:17 -!- MizardX has joined. 14:49:21 -!- MizardX has quit (Changing host). 14:49:22 -!- MizardX has joined. 14:50:59 -!- Mathnerd314 has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.3/20100401080539]). 15:21:11 -!- kar8nga has joined. 15:24:33 ;l 16:02:07 heh. 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Types are basically rules defining what connections are valid. 19:22:32 interesting 19:23:10 -!- pikhq has joined. 19:23:11 what I read on reddit right before switching back and seeing that: 19:23:12 [[I apologize. It's just that, when someone says "Interesting" as a one-word sentence, it's usually sarcastic.]] 19:23:38 ha 19:23:44 (with me it's not) 19:24:55 * alise deletes all links in the Games menu apart from FreeCell, Minesweeper and Solitaire 19:29:44 coppro: the language idea was inspired bya previous comment on that thread :P 19:30:03 saying that basically every data structure is just an efficient representation of a certain subset of graphs defined by some constraints 19:30:18 *remove basically 19:32:59 * alise downloads tweakui 19:33:41 -!- ais523 has joined. 19:34:21 hi ais523 19:34:52 hi alise 19:35:20 btw, I only realised recently that the name "alise" was the one picked by the random number generator for my last-but-one Neverwinter Nights character 19:35:44 ha! 19:36:25 huh? 19:36:57 http://www.activewin.com/articles/general/article_29.html <-- opera unveils version 3.5 of opera! 19:36:59 coppro: huh huh? 19:37:21 which RNG? 19:38:18 presumably, Neverwinter Nights has one included. 19:38:46 I seem to recall it does. 19:39:38 For nostalgymatic reasons I've always used the rinkworks.com namegen, I believe it was the first one I saw. 19:39:47 I WILL UNINSTALL EVERY SINGLE COMPONENT THAT WINDOWS CONTAINS 19:43:25 now, opera, i am sure you can display a proper menu, not a ghastly opera logo. 19:43:30 come on. you used to be good 19:44:06 there we go 19:45:04 *random name generator 19:45:21 and yes, it works quite well, although it's a bit repetitive for gnomes and not nearly silly enough 19:45:31 * ais523 holds to the point of view that gnome names should be hideously embarassing to say 19:47:44 ais523: http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/ has a bit more settings. 19:48:05 meh, you don't really need an ideal name 19:48:08 just a unique one 19:48:12 "Mushy Insults" at least sound embarrassing enough. 19:49:12 definitely 19:49:53 (And the Pokemon name generator is very realistic. "Oh, my Faceyzard has evolved to Lumpechu." (Disclaimer: I know nothing about poke-men except what I've acquired through cultural osmosis.)) 19:50:10 fizzie: whereas I participated in the UK nationals 19:50:23 I lost in the second round, due to playing someone good and making a hilariously bad prediction 19:50:30 but I was sixth on the online pracice server for a while 19:50:41 still, those names sound decent for facetious Pokémon names 19:50:51 Dumbirtle. 19:51:04 (Some of them sound a bit stupid.) 19:51:11 I think it's just mixing insults with the second half of real Pokémon names 19:52:22 Emuntangangeld 19:52:28 Hinessghaugha 19:52:31 Achustkalbanlor 19:52:34 Unttanmosvesy 19:52:49 All perfectly cromulent names. 19:53:51 "Names With Apostrophes". The world does not need this option. 19:58:07 Sure it does. 19:58:23 It's not a decent Thri-kreen name unless it has at least two apostrophes. 19:59:59 Deewiant: [2010-06-13 02:31:21] Tweeted: About NetHack: it was locked. he took the tub, and resurrection. "need we wait until morning then?" asked conan, eyeing his companion... (fungot) 20:00:00 fizzie: you lay golden eggs?! 20:00:10 fungot: Not that I know of, no. 20:00:11 fizzie: oh no, there can't be comments in pointy? ( 200 0))) a) 1) 20:00:34 :-D 20:00:39 Conan's companion 20:00:54 I was tempted to add "suggestively" before the ... there. 20:15:00 fizzie, any pictures from your trip btw? 20:15:20 ^source 20:15:20 http://git.zem.fi/fungot/blob/HEAD:/fungot.b98 20:17:02 fizzie, the one through Europe I meant. Haven't yet seen any pretty photos from it 20:18:16 AnMaster: http://zem.fi/g2/v/Travel/2010/Interrail/ but there's nothing especially highlight-worthy, and the panoramas are very "autopano-sift + optimize once" messy, since I had approximately no time at all to get the pictures ready before we had to present them to wife's family, and I probably can't motivate myself to fix them now. 20:18:31 fizzie, hm 20:18:31 E.g. there's only one cat. 20:18:56 Also no comments in the photos. 20:19:02 fizzie, where are the panos? Or are those thumnails cropped? 20:19:12 (or is there more than one page?) 20:19:18 All thumbnails are cropped to squares, and panoramas are mixed everywhere. 20:19:22 ah 20:19:25 And all those are subfolders. 20:19:32 There's around 700-800 photos in there. 20:19:42 oh wait, those are subdirs 20:19:53 fizzie, augh, no easy way to find the panos :/ 20:20:08 I can provide a list if you want. 20:20:17 fizzie, thanks, if it isn't too much trouble for you 20:20:28 (The file names are distinctive.) 20:20:51