')++"+l*31+" < 1285607512 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\" ."+l*31+"\");s="+l*31+"\"# ruby"+l*32+"n"+l*31+"\"++"+l*31+"\"l=92.chr;eval s=\"+ (z=l*31)+\"\\\"\"+s+z+\"\\\""+l*31+"\"++"+l*31+"\""+l*32+"n"+l*31+"\""+l*15+"\""+ l*7+"\")"+l*4+"n\\\\\\\")\\\")\"########### (c) Yusuke Endoh, 2009 ###########\n" < 1285607516 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops. < 1285607518 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't tell the length. < 1285607525 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may disembowel be now. < 1285607531 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*me < 1285607535 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285607583 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks pretty cool < 1285607587 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1285607614 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"is there a quine that compiles itself and runs and compiles the out put and run forever?" ;; ooh < 1285607617 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, was I being stupid? < 1285607624 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1285607630 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, no. < 1285607631 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: quick, what's the standard perl quine? < 1285607639 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the C-style one with printf, I guess < 1285607642 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: via cheating, or fairly? < 1285607648 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fairly < 1285607652 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like main(){char q=34, n=10,*a="main() {char q=34,n=10,*a=%c%s%c; printf(a,q,a,q,n);}%c";printf(a,q,a,q,n);} < 1285607660 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's one of those two-identical-halves ones, IIRC < 1285607670 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye all < 1285607687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :print<<''x2,"\n" < 1285607688 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :print<<''x2,"\n" < 1285607690 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :followed by a blank line < 1285607704 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$b='$b=%c%s%c;printf$b,39,$b,39;';printf$b,39,$b,39; < 1285607705 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you can't send the blank line over IRC easily, but it's needed for the two halves to be identical, and also as a string terminator) < 1285607706 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's more like it < 1285607709 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perl has sprintf, right? < 1285607712 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1285607719 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$b='$b=%c%s%c;eval sprintf$b,39,$b,39;';eval sprintf$b,39,$b,39; < 1285607728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :helloooo SMITH < 1285607731 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what was the language called < 1285607732 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :muriel? < 1285607735 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Muriel, yes < 1285607744 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SMITH was a similar concept, but based on cheat-quines < 1285607753 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$b='$b=%c%s%c;print".\n"; eval sprintf$b,39,$b,39;';print".\n";eval sprintf$b,39,$b,39; < 1285607775 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:34:38 It's a diamond. < 1285607779 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :geometry of the infinite GoL plane, wonderful < 1285607794 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I'm referring to the observable universe. < 1285607798 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:02:25 Is somefunction @somelist meant to pass an array as such to the function, or will somefunction choose to expand it? WHO THE FUCK KNOWS? < 1285607800 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :09:02:32 YAY PERL < 1285607807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grumble @ people who misunderstand Perl < 1285607813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and think they're clever for hating on it < 1285607821 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure it sucks but... not *that* much :) < 1285607922 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1285607931 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any language with TC-parsable syntax is fine by me. < 1285607970 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: did you see? I got NT 4.0 running on MIPS. < 1285607974 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With Visual C++. Oh yeah. < 1285607988 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't see, but I'm not surprised < 1285607991 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A veritable smorgasbord of no applications at all are at my disposal. < 1285608028 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: re your Sgeo quote, I think it's quite sensible for a lang to do that if documentation for the function is available < 1285608082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: if you care: i.imgur.com/8kftu.png, i.imgur.com/K4Xv0.png < 1285608092 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I probably shouldn't circumvent your URL blocking. Sorry. < 1285608126 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Anyone: spot the joke and win points.) < 1285608132 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In one of the images.) < 1285608210 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :something to do with NT being really old, needing a DeLorean to reach the point in time where it's still cool? < 1285608211 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not a terribly good one < 1285608225 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the DeLorean being a time machine < 1285608234 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and both NT 4 and MIPS workstations being old < 1285608242 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :funnier if you don't dissect the unfunny version of the joke beforehand :P < 1285608258 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: fun fact, I had to *run QEMU in WINE* to get that installed. < 1285608275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An *old* version of QEMU. < 1285608345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1285608345 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was this Linux WINE? or Windows WINE? < 1285608345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh? I had to run WINE on the host Ubuntu, of course. < 1285608345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody has compiled WINE for NT/MIPS because that's just silly. < 1285608345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I'm not sure what you mean. < 1285608356 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I thought it might be a way to deal with compatibility issues < 1285608379 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both old and new QEMUs didn't work, including the Windows binary linked to on the wiki page; but there was an older compiled version in the directory beside it that displayed colours wrongly, but actually got past the freeze in the installation. < 1285608383 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And boy was it slow in WINE. < 1285608399 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But somehow mine finished before Gregor's even though he started before I even downloaded it, so nyah. < 1285608411 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, silly thing, not remembering the date. < 1285608413 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not 1601. < 1285608423 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: what do you think of Agora's new website by the way? (http://agoranomic.org/ for people who like convenient links to click on) < 1285608461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the two columns are unnecessarily confusing; it is unclear which to focus on at any given moment, and disrupts any natural reading order of the page. < 1285608480 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're pretty much an ultimate design fail right there, but I'll soldier on and look at the content < 1285608481 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: you focus on whichever one contains the information you want? < 1285608488 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that does not help someone new to Agora. < 1285608505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you think we should put all paragraphs horizontal to each other, too, in case you want to look at some other one first? < 1285608520 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it's because reading very long lines is really annoying < 1285608522 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's nothing stopping an experienced player using the scrollbar; for new players, it is distracting and confusing. < 1285608529 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: so make it one column with a reduced width < 1285608534 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like, y'know, books < 1285608539 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's ridiculously ugly and no website should do it < 1285608558 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you think newspapers are a design fail? < 1285608571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, well, you're not exactly someone i consider someone with great aesthetic tastes, no offence. < 1285608585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but newspapers have a very different purpose, and their text has a strict chronological order, just ordered for space < 1285608590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it is purely a space-saving measure < 1285608597 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I defer again to books, which are, of course, much nicer to read than newspapers < 1285608658 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*newspapers. < 1285608687 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1285608750 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, either you're wrong or my strong personal experience, the experience of pretty much everyone I know to exist apart from you, and centuries of refined typographical practice are wrong. People have just got used to crappy typography on screen. < 1285608821 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of nomic, [[On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:18 PM, ais523 wrote: < 1285608821 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> We normally don't care about such things, especially when there's a good < 1285608821 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> reason. (An exception is if the Pariah does something like this; that's < 1285608821 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> a risk which comes with being the Pariah.) < 1285608821 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another exception is if you recently NoVed a bunch of people for late reports.]] < 1285608822 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `if' < 1285608822 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `,' < 1285608822 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : : parse error on input `)' < 1285608826 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, Wooble < 1285608832 0 :cal153!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1285608838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: well, I'm one of those rare people who actually /reduces/ font size from the default < 1285608841 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :always carefully maintaining his well-nurtured reputation of being a complete and utter jerk < 1285608848 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why is lambdabot here? < 1285608855 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: because I asked someone to bring it back in here < 1285608857 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that I mind, I'm just surprised < 1285608858 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it suddenly appeared < 1285608863 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite oerjan denying doing ita < 1285608865 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*it < 1285608868 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and nobody else coming forward < 1285608874 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we had it for ages not too long ago < 1285608875 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2009, maybe < 1285608878 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i miss it < 1285608885 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially since !haskell is rather crappy < 1285608885 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Twas I who got the lambdabot. < 1285608892 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ah, thankees < 1285608900 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you thanked lemmih on our behalf? if not, i will < 1285608916 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't remember by now... < 1285608923 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1285608927 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll thank 'im anyway < 1285608930 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did you do /msg or Haskell? < 1285608936 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so I know which channel to respond in < 1285608940 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can remember that he said it wasn't necessarily permanent. < 1285608945 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it was in the channel. < 1285608951 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we are on trial :P < 1285608952 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Control Panel item: "Tape Devices" < 1285609087 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, tar still assumes it's accessing a tape drive by default < 1285609097 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, really? < 1285609106 0 :distant_figure!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1285609121 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pointless backward compatibility is the POSIX spirit! < 1285609124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: why do you think you have to add an f every single time? < 1285609138 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ah, is the argument treated as a tape drive otherwise? < 1285609139 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amazing < 1285609143 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or do you have to pipe it in somehow? < 1285609151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't say clear < 1285609303 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ls < 1285609303 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* dstcruz has quit (Quit: leaving) < 1285609305 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that later one when people realise that the default options are braindead, you can make the option into a --traditional equivalent, and change the defaults to something saner < 1285609320 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: wrong window focused, do you think? < 1285609335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, but usually people aren't stupid enough to get *two* commands in < 1285609340 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially after clear fails to clear the window < 1285609359 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How is clear actually specified? < 1285609386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"clears the terminal" < 1285609386 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1285609393 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D:\>ping google.com < 1285609395 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bad IP address google.com. < 1285609398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid NT 4 :P < 1285609412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having said that I have no network, so maybe it'd work with one. < 1285609440 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you believe this thing has IIS? < 1285609502 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Server: IIS 2.0 for Windows NT 4.0, MIPS architecture" < 1285609570 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Windows is famous for having a bunch of services that it doesn't need, sitting there as security holes < 1285609592 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIS isn't exactly just a security hole < 1285609605 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is the server edition in 1996; it's practically guaranteed to be running a web server of some sort < 1285609609 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides, i selected to install it < 1285609641 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :UNDOCUMENTED(1) Mono Manual UNDOCUMENTED(1) < 1285609642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAME < 1285609642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : undocumented - No manpage for this program. < 1285609642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DESCRIPTION < 1285609642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : This program does not have a manpage. Run this command with the help < 1285609642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : switch to see what it does. For further information, refer to the .NET < 1285609644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : documentation from the Mono project, located on http://www.go- < 1285609646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : mono.com/docs/ < 1285609648 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Debian GNU/Linux January 15th, 2004 UNDOCUMENTED(1) < 1285609650 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Manual page cli-wrapper(1) line 1/16 (END) < 1285609652 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :too good not to paste... < 1285609675 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Writing manual pages is quite easy, the format is described in man(7)." -- undocumented(7) < 1285609765 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Try the following options if you want more information: foo --help, foo -h, foo -?, info foo, whatis foo, apropos foo, dpkg --listfiles foo, dpkg --search foo, locate '*foo*', find / -name '*foo*'" -- I like how it gets more and more desperate < 1285609806 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: they missed apt-cache search < 1285609833 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is admittedly quite an off-chance (relying on you having installed a package without using the package system, when it exists in that system) < 1285609850 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, apt-cache search could find foo-doc, if it's a different package than foo. < 1285609862 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1285609875 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*aptitude < 1285609877 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(They do mention that you might want to look for a foo-doc package, but not in that list.) < 1285609882 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aptitude is the Debian Project's official package manager :-) < 1285609894 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apt has gone the way of dpkg(1) :P < 1285609904 0 :distant_figure!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1285610074 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I love the poor. I feel that the poor are more sensible when you see the antics of the rich. And for some reasons many Indians believe that creating wealth is sinful. < 1285610074 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway although I have several physical machines with me I still prefer not having to power them on, connect the power chord, the Ethernet chord, use a switch/hub and so on." < 1285610086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Non sequitur of the year. < 1285610142 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He doesn't want to play the power chord. < 1285610293 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bah, why doesn't QEMU have a -serial modem? < 1285610307 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, I'm already using that for the mouse, but I could fix that. < 1285610308 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: dpkg(1) is still useful < 1285610318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but it's not what you're meant to actually use when you can use something higher-level < 1285610323 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you're messing with packages below the package-manager level < 1285610326 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like apt, basically, except aptitude is almost identical; but them's the rules < 1285610462 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What would "-serial modem" do, exactly? If you mean networking, I'm sure you can already get it going with a -serial into a fifo and pppd on the other end. (Admittedly manually twiddling with pppd might not be your idea of fun.) < 1285610486 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: It would fake a serial modem, using the same sort of network as -net user does. < 1285610500 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Basically, it'd let you add a modem on OSes that fail at Ethernet and get your network through that. < 1285610549 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't need administrative privileges to run something like slirp, it's just more work than a single command line flag. < 1285610606 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Does slirp turn my beautiful fake-Ethernet WLAN connection into a serial modem stream? < 1285610637 0 :distant_figure!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: underflow < 1285610646 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, why not? It's sort of a "use the system's sockets to fake a ppp/slip link into stdin/stdout" thing. < 1285610668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Okay then. < 1285610673 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea if it works on anything modern, though. :p < 1285610683 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean on host or guest? < 1285610688 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because dude, the guest is Windows NT Server 4.0 for MIPS. < 1285610692 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Host. < 1285610719 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It says it works on "Linux glibc and libc5 systems", and seeing libc5 there doesn't fill me with confidence. But there seems to be a "slirp" Ubuntu package, so I guess it's okay. < 1285610727 0 :cal153!~cal@70.36.237.178 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285610758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : All you have to remember is this: Once you run Slirp, your shell < 1285610758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : account now looks exactly like a SLIP/PPP account (with some limita‐ < 1285610758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : tions of course). Any documentation that you have telling you how to < 1285610758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : connect to a SLIP/PPP account is completely valid for Slirp as well. < 1285610770 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's in BETA! "(c) 1995,1996|" < 1285610772 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*1996" < 1285610783 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, five zeroes works to exit. < 1285610788 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: AFAICT, NT 4 Terminal Server was never released for MIPS. < 1285610794 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes me, like, ultra-unhappy, omg. < 1285610802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can also "disconnect" Slirp by typing five 1's (one's), with a 1 < 1285610803 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : second gap between each. This will disconnect Slirp from your shell's < 1285610803 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : terminal and put Slirp in the background. Later, you can type < 1285610803 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : slirp -l 0 < 1285610803 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : to "reconnect" Slirp again. < 1285610804 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So complicated. < 1285610807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Workstation FTW < 1285610815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Also ha ha @ using irrelevant details to diminish my accomplishment < 1285610817 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I OWN YOU < 1285610830 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to COMPILE A HELLO WORLD now < 1285610975 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1285610979 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What do you mean "Workstation FTW" < 1285610986 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Workstation can't do terminal services :P < 1285610991 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's an irrelevant comparison. < 1285611009 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Terminal services is for losers. Also I've forgotten what it does. < 1285611030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet MSVC.EXE crashed < 1285611046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The memory could not be "read".]] -- result of using the debugger on it < 1285611047 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: rdesktop server < 1285611055 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yeah, I get that too. Use it from command line. < 1285611058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Read", if you know what I mean. < 1285611061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But it *worked before!* < 1285611071 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It *worked from the custom QEmu*? < 1285611077 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It worked from my host QEMU. < 1285611080 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1285611081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I am using now. < 1285611084 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hm, weird :P < 1285611086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only need the WINE one for installation. < 1285611093 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Admittedly this was immediately post-install, before any reboot. < 1285611095 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT MY IDE < 1285611117 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH < 1285611119 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It may require the CD. < 1285611126 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, I want my rdesktop server. < 1285611126 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to give people graphical remote-login accounts :P < 1285611128 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To a f***ing NT 4 MIPS box. < 1285611134 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because that's perfectly secure. < 1285611148 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It is if it's in MIPS QEmu and you have a backup of the disk image. < 1285611149 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Also, f u c k i n g. < 1285611189 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALISE AND VORPAL SITTING IN A TREE, < 1285611243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no retort. < 1285611257 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Other than your mom. < 1285611291 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1285611302 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK the uncancellable CHKDSK. < 1285611546 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: What sort of MIPS systems does NT run on, incidentally? I have a SGI Indy (MIPS R4k, sort of ARC-y firmware) here, but I don't suppose they ever ported it to *that*? < 1285611629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I know what my display driver and "BIOS" setup are. < 1285611631 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Viivan loppu. < 1285611633 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Microsoft Jazz" < 1285611641 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs78149022.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1285611641 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_(computer) < 1285611645 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Jazz computer architecture was a motherboard and chipset design originally developed by Microsoft for use in developing Windows NT. The design was eventually used as the basis for most MIPS-based Windows NT systems. < 1285611652 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS Magnum < 1285611656 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is what we use with qemu < 1285611660 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an evolution of Jazz < 1285611664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a compatible one < 1285611672 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[insert jazz puns] < 1285611676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were also some MIPS systems designed to run Windows NT and comply with the ARC standard, but nevertheless were not based on the Jazz platform: < 1285611676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DeskStation Tyne < 1285611676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NeTpower FASTseries Falcon < 1285611676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ShaBLAMM! NiTro-VLB < 1285611676 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Siemens-Nixdorf RM-200, RM-300 and RM-400 < 1285611681 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Do you have a ShaBLAMM! workstation? < 1285611699 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still running NT in MIPS on QEMU in WINE? < 1285611703 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no; with that sort of name, I'm sure you'd have already noticed. < 1285611902 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1285611988 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No WINE. < 1285611990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You only need that for the install. < 1285611997 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Blast! Why does it crash so! < 1285612279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: slirp is freaking complex. < 1285612299 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So basically I'm gonna start slirp, give QEMU the right port... < 1285612366 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's supposed to be used so that you start your PPP dialer thingie, tell it to do manual login, dial up to your shell provider, log in normally, then run slirp and let the PPP dialer start the networking. < 1285612419 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's the slirp port? < 1285612420 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't quite know what qemu's -serial can do; at least it has that tcp console, and you could run a listening netcat with "slirp" as the command. < 1285612426 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1285612430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so slirp works like a normal tcp stream, right? < 1285612454 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, slirp speaks to stdin/stdout. It's your task to get those streams of it into qemu as a serial port. < 1285612654 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :qemu has a tcp-as-serial thing < 1285612661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just mean, ehird@dinky:~/NT4$ nc -l -p 9090 -e /usr/bin/slirp < 1285612663 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should work, right? < 1285612678 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, maybe. < 1285612686 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds at least something that has a chance of working. < 1285612687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems so < 1285612690 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least < 1285612691 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can connect < 1285612699 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and get no response as i fail to know how to be a slip/ppp kinda guy < 1285612737 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever configured NT 4 to use dialup, either. < 1285612759 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant connecting to slirp with netcat :) < 1285612780 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, okay. < 1285612877 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slirp's pretty tricky, there's magical addresses in 10.0.2.0/24 that you can telnet (after connecting) to configure it, and you can bind programs into ports of 10.0.2.1, and redirect incoming ports (the slirp app will then bind listening sockets for those and forward the connections) and so on. < 1285612879 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THINGS THAT ANNOY ME: people with names that should be spelt complicatedly, but aren't. < 1285612951 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am still convinced that "sins" is a valid pronunciation of "science". < 1285612957 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sci - si < 1285612959 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :en - n < 1285612960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ce - s < 1285612965 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus died for your science. < 1285612971 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just pronounce it as "sins" in that sentence, it totally makes sense. < 1285612981 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1285612986 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's this about fizzie having a MIPS workstation? < 1285613000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie < 1285613005 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wanna buy some of your old gear < 1285613006 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1285613007 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie < 1285613012 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie < 1285613014 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want you < 1285613017 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzle < 1285613018 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has a friend who had a Micro at one point.
< 1285613021 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "DEEPLY." < 1285613029 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still haven't forced him to give me it. < 1285613037 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm pretty sure he's married. Sorry Greg. < 1285613072 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: They got rid of all the SGI Indy workstations at the university, gave them away to students. < 1285613076 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: :( < 1285613080 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I am configuring ~dial-up networking~ because -net nic -net user doesn't work. < 1285613083 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: DON'T WORRY I'M NOT MARRIED < 1285613083 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: D'awww, lucky bastard < 1285613104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it's checking COM1. < 1285613107 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's parallel port, right? < 1285613141 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I think they've now given out the O2 machines too, which were altogether more scifiy-looking. < 1285613174 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl, I need to configure slirp's baud rate. < 1285613183 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I mean, a nickname for the Indy is "Indigo without the 'go'"; they're not *so* impressive.) < 1285613193 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :28800 sounds good! < 1285613524 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S FINDERATING MY MODEM < 1285613528 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[autodetect SLIP/CSLIP, MTU 1500, MRU 1500, 115200 baud] < 1285613530 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :115200 baud < 1285613623 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Haha wow, DHCP over parallel port modem. < 1285613647 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Brain axplote < 1285613682 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: DHCP over parallel port modem over local TCP socket (slirp, over local networking) over local IP < 1285613688 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hells yeah < 1285613695 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1285613700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if I can set it to infinite baud. < 1285613806 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how many people have made Avatar 2.
< 1285613878 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: modem software crashes hell yeah < 1285613940 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Review of Windows NT Server 4.0 for MIPS' networking: < 1285613943 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It am stupid and I no like it < 1285614040 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You go too far! No control nature! < 1285614133 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No! Am connect computers! < 1285614144 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[events of the Terminator films, ordered chronologically] < 1285614148 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me go too far! < 1285614203 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A seminar organizer introduced a visiting lecturer from Intel to us by saying "these are the guys who are building Skynet". < 1285614214 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the stuff that contradicts the other stuff? < 1285614332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That also happens. < 1285614356 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You just *know* someone's formulated a consistent timeline for the entire canon. < 1285614362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See: Memory Alpha. < 1285614368 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. < 1285614373 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See: Discworld. < 1285614407 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: apparently, official Myst canon, handed down by the people in charge, is that the first three games contradict the rest of the series because they are, in-universe, video games rather than things that actually happened < 1285614421 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a lot of Myst fans are rather infuriated by the way its canon workd < 1285614423 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*works < 1285614448 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's easily fixed < 1285614456 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how? < 1285614483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the first three Myst games are simply projections -- like "Star Trek" is a projection of the world of Star Trek on to our world -- of the same universe projected inside the canon of the fourth game onwards. < 1285614502 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is, there are the universes O (original three Myst games), N (everything after that) and X (our universe). < 1285614505 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : alise: It is if it's in MIPS QEmu and you have a backup of the disk image.<-- nice < 1285614510 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, perhaps < 1285614514 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, can I have such a login? < 1285614516 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The original three Myst games depict events in universe O. < 1285614527 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't have Terminal Server D-8 < 1285614529 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a projection of O in world N. It is fictional. < 1285614532 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a projection of O in world X. It is fictional. < 1285614537 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is a projection of N in world X. It is fictional. < 1285614551 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the funny thing is that I can could come up with a plausible-ish story to explain the apparent contradictions between 1-2-3 and 4, if it wasn't for the developers trying to shut all that sort of thing down < 1285614560 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ALISE AND VORPAL SITTING IN A TREE, <-- self balanced binary tree, powered by the waste heat from us arguing? < 1285614561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: see? two perfect universe canons, without any matryoshka stuff < 1285614577 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: hmm... < 1285614578 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, oh < 1285614578 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I have no idea what the actual story is :) < 1285614607 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't help that the first four games are all obviously in the same continuity < 1285614612 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i mean, let's put it this way: would you rather believe that Star Trek is an incomplete "mini-universe" inside our own, rather than a separate universe that we have windows into? because that's ridiculous < 1285614626 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you accept the windows-onto-a-universe view, which is pretty much how canon works... < 1285614628 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I could give you a sort of lame console account. < 1285614632 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then there's no contradiction with there being two windows in different universes < 1285614642 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like there are multiple projections of one universe in our own < 1285614653 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep, but how can you reuse characters when you do that? < 1285614658 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do they climb through the window or something? < 1285614660 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(e.g. a game and a film taking place simultaneously, but focusing on different elements) < 1285614661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: cameos < 1285614666 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sort of < 1285614673 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the characters in the first three games are separate people as in the fourth game onwards < 1285614679 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: well, it isn't a cameo, it's a case of having the same main NPC... < 1285614680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just _based on_ the fourth game characters onwards < 1285614695 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just like we might have, I don't know, Adventures of William Shatner: The Person Who Talks Slowly < 1285614698 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where he kills a bear < 1285614701 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1285614715 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if the main character in Myst 4 references actually doing things in the first three games, that's an issue. does e? < 1285614716 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt this theory is any more satisfactory to the fans than the existing ones... < 1285614730 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I'm not certain, but I think so < 1285614749 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the games are full of journals, which often contain events from past ages < 1285614754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: then you can say that the first three games are dramatised versions of the real events in the "new" universe < 1285614766 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so the contradictions are artistic license in the first three games created inside the "new" universe < 1285614767 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that's basically what the canon did < 1285614772 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR, the main character is delusional :) < 1285614775 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stating they were video games based on the events < 1285614777 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and based eir life on games < 1285614797 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, delusional narrator is actually the method World of Warcraft apparently uses to fix all inconsistencies in its history < 1285614804 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1285614812 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WoW is hardly a canon-rich game, though :P < 1285614829 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :real canon is a bit tricky in MMORPGs, I'd say... < 1285614846 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: do you have networking working? < 1285614855 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yeah, I never had any issue with it. < 1285614856 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :networking working king ing ng g < 1285614859 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: what switches? < 1285614865 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: -net nic -net user < 1285614866 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i shouldn't have told qemu i have a serial mouse < 1285614870 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: how do you connect? < 1285614874 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is the ethernet address set as? < 1285614880 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perhaps it's an issue in my later, faster version < 1285614955 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The studio had suggested O. J. Simpson for the role of the Terminator, but Cameron did not feel that Simpson would be believable as a killer." -- Wikipedia, "The Terminator" < 1285615004 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: 123456789abc < 1285615015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: and this persists across reboots? does time? < 1285615113 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Ethernet address does. Time does not. Not sure why. < 1285615129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Time... is not persistent. < 1285615134 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is only an illusion we use to create... breakfast. < 1285615138 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1285615146 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An oh so pleasant illusion. Breakfast. < 1285615150 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION meditates
< 1285615182 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: How much RAM has your fake server got dood? Oh my god the chains on the login screen are amazing in fucked up colour mode < 1285615185 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're so green and yellow < 1285615202 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Dood, how do you type ctrl+alt+delete in WINE < 1285615203 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: 128MB < 1285615209 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ME TOO RAM BUDDIES *HI5* < 1285615216 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ctrl+alt+3, "sendkey ctrl-alt-delete" < 1285615225 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, I had no idea that existed. < 1285615226 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then ctrl+alt+1 < 1285615227 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Blind mown. < 1285615252 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Why are you running it in wine again? < 1285615264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because it doesn't do networking outside of WINE? < 1285615268 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assumed you were using it in WINE too. < 1285615271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If not, uhh < 1285615277 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have the same QEMU and it's only broken for one of us < 1285615301 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, I only used wine for the install. < 1285615308 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then ... what QEMU version are you using? < 1285615314 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0.12.5 IIRC < 1285615341 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Me too. wat. < 1285615347 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOW ME UR CMD LINES < 1285615350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOW ME UR CONNECTIN' METHUDS < 1285615353 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idonno why it lurves me and hates you :P < 1285615361 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm too young. < 1285615367 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe because yours failed during install, it just isn't configured. < 1285615371 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you need to ... configure it. < 1285615503 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :larva < 1285615529 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lava < 1285615539 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laa < 1285615540 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa < 1285615541 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1285615544 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1285615546 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Do elaborate. < 1285615594 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So you can telnet to google.com? < 1285615604 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa, now I can. < 1285615623 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: lawl i hate you for doing this < 1285615624 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :chalk & soot < 1285615702 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1285615703 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/1/128 < 1285615704 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CTO < 1285615882 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo larva < 1285615883 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :larva arva rva va a < 1285615939 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo archaeologists < 1285615939 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :archaeologists rchaeologists chaeologists haeologists aeologists eologists ologists logists ogists gists ists sts ts s < 1285615944 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo archaeology < 1285615944 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :archaeology rchaeology chaeology haeology aeology eology ology logy ogy gy y < 1285615950 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^echo archaeology < 1285615950 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :archaeology archaeology < 1285615952 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1285615953 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^show < 1285615953 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :echo reverb rev rot13 rev2 fib wc ul cho choo pow2 source help hw srmlebac uenlsbcmra scramble unscramble asc ord < 1285615959 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^cho archaeology < 1285615959 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :archaeologyrchaeologychaeologyhaeologyaeologyeologyologylogyogygyy < 1285615964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble archaeologyrchaeologychaeologyhaeologyaeologyeologyologylogyogygyy < 1285615964 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acaooycaooyhelghelgaooyooylglgoyyyggyoyooglegleyooayooacglehrglehr < 1285615968 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble archaeology rchaeology chaeology haeology aeology eology ology logy ogy gy y < 1285615968 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :acaooyrhelg helg aooyaooyelg lg oyoyg yy g glyooyoo gle glehyooacyooac glehr < 1285615972 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no apparent pattern < 1285615994 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tr to get doppler effect < 1285615999 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo We have killed all the children, sir. < 1285615999 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We have killed all the children, sir. e have killed all the children, sir. have killed all the children, sir. have killed all the children, sir. ave killed all the children, sir. ve killed all the children, ... < 1285616007 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble We have killed all the children, sir. e have killed all the children, sir. have killed all the children, sir. have killed all the children, sir. ave killed all the children, sir. ve killed all the children, < 1285616007 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :W aekle l h hlrn i.ehv ildaltecide,sr hv ildaltecide,sr aekle l h hlrn i.aekle l h hlrn i.v ildaltecide,nrlh h l elke rs,edicetladli v rs,edicetladli vh.i nrlh h l elkea .i nrlh h l elkea rs,edicetladli vhe < 1285616015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^choo we have killed all the children sir < 1285616015 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we have killed all the children sir e have killed all the children sir have killed all the children sir have killed all the children sir ave killed all the children sir ve killed all the children sir e kill ... < 1285616020 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble we have killed all the children sir e have killed all the children sir have killed all the children sir have killed all the children sir ave killed all the children sir ve killed all the children sir e kill < 1285616020 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :w aekle l h hlrnsrehv ildaltecide i hv ildaltecide i aekle l h hlrnsraekle l h hlrnsrv ildaltecide i illkersnrlh h l elke i edicetladli v i edicetladli vhrsnrlh h l elkea rsnrlh h l elkea i edicetladli vhe < 1285616055 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :arabic? < 1285616081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Somehow, you have made my network work. < 1285616092 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, you killed all the children? < 1285616093 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: e993 i gave up long ago intercal-72 c-intercal clc-intercal j-intercal no version 0.28+ no no circumstances in which this done will affect which i/ o < 1285616098 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Link me to RawIRC, dood. < 1285616099 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a new one. < 1285616105 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1285616105 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic* irc jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1285616112 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Google in IE infiniloops :) < 1285616124 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I recognised it < 1285616126 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*recognised < 1285616141 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft.com loads < 1285616144 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in IE 2 < 1285616147 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :today is a good day < 1285616157 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the layout even half-works < 1285616163 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now I'm vaguely wondering if there are any IE 2 exploits still out there < 1285616172 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's actually laid out pretty damn well < 1285616177 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even a horizontal menu bar < 1285616184 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the rest is linearly organised < 1285616262 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: RawIRC, dood < 1285616262 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be that microsoft.com is only tested in IE 2... < 1285616279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Your website is Internet Explorer 2 Compatible(TM) < 1285616302 0 :olsner!~sal@c83-252-161-133.bredband.comhem.se JOIN :#esoteric < 1285616351 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I doubt there's any IE 2 exploits for NT 4 on... MIPS? PowerPC? < 1285616367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you'd be surprised < 1285616382 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meanwhile, I'm vaguely wondering at how Twitter managed to get exploited twice in a week < 1285616385 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, rather, I doubt there's any *in the wild*. < 1285616388 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was XSS the first time, not sure what it was second time < 1285616429 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MIPS < 1285616444 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alpha is the coolest, having a dynamic x86 -> Alpha translation that actually cached it on disk < 1285616446 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that ran Office perfectly < 1285616464 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you'd run x86 Office the first time, it'd do some compiling, close it, reopen, opens instantly < 1285616465 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woah, that is cool < 1285616467 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because it saved the translation < 1285616477 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :product from DEC < 1285616495 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"One of the first thing you’ll find out, is that the Dec Alpha was popular non intel machine to run because of FX!32. This program from Dec, allowed for dynamic translation of 32bit binaries on the Alpha. So that you could run Office 97 for the i386 on the Alpha. And on the 2nd run it was effectively a native copy as it had been translated at that point." < 1285616540 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's actually pretty awesome. < 1285616586 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now feed it self-modifying code >:) < 1285616591 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, restarting router due to it getting borked internal state < 1285616599 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: link me to rawirc plz < 1285616614 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Donothaz < 1285616620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: YOU ARE WORST PERSON < 1285616643 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WILL USE http://vpsland.superglobalmegacorp.com/install/WindowsNT4.0-MIPS/irc/ INSTEAD < 1285616701 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1285616710 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/connect irc.freenode.net -> it connects to DALnet < 1285616790 0 :alips!~alips@91.104.239.224 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285616803 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MMY Nmf < 1285616808 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow i can't see the messages i type < 1285616810 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's impressive < 1285616827 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc < 1285616834 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :abc < 1285616850 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone want to teach me MFC programming circa NT 4? :P < 1285616855 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alips: you are not invisible and we can see you fine, just so you know :P < 1285616862 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU CANNOT SEE ME < 1285616868 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nbecbecause i fcannot see myself < 1285616874 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool, backspace doesn't work < 1285616876 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tee�Sst < 1285616878 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1285616881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nor does delete < 1285616890 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now do the MFC and build you an IRC client < 1285616890 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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ACTION and ^A shows as a smiley face
< 1285616909 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner teach me he magic ways < 1285616912 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the magic ways < 1285616923 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a half-broken copy of visual c++ and a wild imagination < 1285616928 0 :Vorpal!~AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster JOIN :#esoteric < 1285616930 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not magic, just MFC < 1285616932 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :version 2 < 1285616938 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VC++ 2.0? < 1285616939 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @Vorpal] \esoteric@ < 1285616945 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*"Vorpal] #esoteric" < 1285616948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's totally a message < 1285616949 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yep < 1285616954 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also wild imagination version 2.0 < 1285616955 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does that even come with MFC? < 1285616958 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: apparently < 1285616960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(C) 1994 < 1285616972 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: feel free to link me to a better toolchain compiled for mips :D < 1285616989 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... so fire up the application wizard and point-and-click yourself a UI? < 1285616992 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm RISCin' my life out here!! < 1285616998 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hell, i'd be fine with the console < 1285617002 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if it has a GUI designer :P < 1285617005 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the ide's broken atm < 1285617007 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gonna try reinstalling < 1285617013 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAA < 1285617015 0 :alips!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1285617032 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woot, VC++ 2.0 doesn't have an uninstall entry < 1285617034 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hope it has an uninstall program < 1285617062 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I really like raw Win32 better than MFC though, it's at least smaller/cleaner although you'll have to do more yourself < 1285617083 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I've ever seen the word "clean" used to describe the Windows API < 1285617110 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do take note that I'm comparing it with MFC :) < 1285617129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: i don't mind how ugly it is, as long as i have to write very little < 1285617147 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ideally i'd bang cygwin/X on this < 1285617152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but SOMEONE (Gregor) hasn't compiled it yet < 1285617154 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe you can get QT or something sensible working < 1285617174 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1285617180 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: pfft < 1285617189 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: not only is it effectively Windows 95 plus *less compatibility* < 1285617192 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's freakin' MIPS < 1285617198 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and probably lacks an API or two < 1285617208 0 :myndzi\!myndzi@c-24-19-39-178.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285617208 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1285617232 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I sincerely doubt that its API has any appreciable holes relative to NT4 on any other platform. < 1285617247 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Missing DirectX. < 1285617262 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"relative to NT4 on any other platform." < 1285617276 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought x86 NT4 could have DirectX? < 1285617287 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean in the basic system, not as an addon. < 1285617291 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1285617295 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then yeah. < 1285617306 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously there are lots of libraries available for x86 that aren't available for MIPS :P < 1285617308 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1285617312 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: So get compiling. < 1285617317 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN YOU HARRY HILL < 1285617320 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Get your face compiling. < 1285617326 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1.5 ofc not 1.7 < 1285617333 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: damn *you* harry hill < 1285617344 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Harry Hill 1.5? < 1285617348 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot hear the words "which is better" in any form without wanting to add "There's only one way to find out! FIGHT!" < 1285617402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: DOWNLOAD NEKO98 FROM THE NTMIPS ARCHIVE NOW < 1285617409 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS A KITTEN THAT CHASES YOUR CURSOR ON THE DESKTOP < 1285617414 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I HAVE DISCOVERED THIS WITH GOOGLE < 1285617415 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OBTAIN IMMEDIATELY < 1285617447 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, feels like I'm becoming tired and weird after too much being awake... too bad I have to finish the dexter episode first < 1285617455 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NT 4.0 had DirectX 2.0a included in it as a system component. (No Direct3D, though.) That's something that might be missing from the MIPS port, who knows. < 1285617461 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows is now the best OS ever. < 1285617492 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: dexter the american tv series thing? < 1285617511 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Does the kitten interact with esheep, though? < 1285617512 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yep, the one < 1285617521 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a friend is watching it right now x_x < 1285617525 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: are you sure you're not her? < 1285617544 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Unfortunately, nobody is cool enough to compile esheep for MIPS. < 1285617545 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, I had one of those desk-pets back in the windows 3.1 days < 1285617570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neko_(computer_program) < 1285617595 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Hey, I had that cat. < 1285617612 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now you can have it on MIPS! < 1285617616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your life is instantly better! < 1285617617 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Don't rememer in what. It seems very widely ported.) < 1285617634 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: if I've merely been hallucinating being me for all my life and is really your friend, then yes < 1285617666 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: am I? have I? really? you think that's reasonable? < 1285617695 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. < 1285617709 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to your new life; you will shortly be unplugged from your olsner-matrix into your new my-friend-matrix. < 1285617722 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hope I'll like it < 1285617724 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHZIYWOOMPOKTP < 1285617729 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That's the sound effect.) < 1285617736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :RIP olsner 1601--2010 < 1285617753 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, you're actually an initial state and an algorith, < 1285617757 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*algorithm < 1285617765 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ooh, born at the very start of the windows epoch? < 1285617768 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2 is an initial state of 2 and an algorithm of f(x) = x < 1285617773 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I think that Indy has fsn -- of Jurassic Park fame -- running in Irix on that Indy, by the way. < 1285617779 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: so *that's* why NT Server 4 for MIPS thinks it's January 1601 at 12 am. < 1285617787 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Sweet. < 1285617796 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that sentence has some unnecessary repetition going on, also. < 1285617797 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: "I think that Indy has fsn running in Irix on that Indy" < 1285617807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that sentence has some unnecessary repetition going on in that sentence, also. < 1285617820 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: did you not possess this piece of information until now? < 1285617822 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was actually mangling it into something more coherent and mistakenly \r'd. < 1285617833 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: indeed not. now stop existing. < 1285617850 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all in due time... all in due time < 1285617882 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think VC++ 2 is uninstalled just by deleting the directory. < 1285617887 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suspiciously overly simple. < 1285617901 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what, that can't possibly not break your system completely < 1285617991 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[KABOOM] < 1285618013 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The readme had no information on uninstalling, it has no obvious uninstallation program and it left no Add/Remove Programs entry. < 1285618023 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is probably Microsoft's intention that it never be uninstalled at all. < 1285618026 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some things are not uninstallable < 1285618029 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1285618041 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"MSVC++ 2.0 has now permanently welded itself to your kernel." < 1285618059 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a bit like the metamorphosis installer that transforms an NT Server into a Domain Controller < 1285618103 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno if NT4 did that or if it started with w2k though < 1285618121 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BOOT YOU INFERNAL MACHINE < 1285618128 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: It's a domain controller by default here, dood. < 1285618132 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Install-time option. < 1285618180 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, that makes heaps more sense than this command-line program you ran on Win2k < 1285618297 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The cursed +2 Visual C compiler welds itself to your system! < 1285618302 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doodoodoodood < 1285618310 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^cho doodoodoodood < 1285618310 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doodoodoodoodoodoodoodoododoodoodooddoodoodoodoodoodoododoodooddoodoodoodoododooddoodoododd < 1285618341 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why is it so slow right now. < 1285618342 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^cho dood < 1285618343 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doodoododd < 1285618346 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welcome to the Visual Studio/Windows NT 2.0/4.0 kernel/compiler < 1285618350 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble doodoododd < 1285618350 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doodddoodo < 1285618359 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble doodddoodo < 1285618359 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dododooddo < 1285618362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble dododooddo < 1285618363 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dddododooo < 1285618366 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble dddododooo < 1285618366 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddddoooood < 1285618371 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble ddddoooood < 1285618371 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddooodoodd < 1285618375 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble ddooodoodd < 1285618375 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doooddodod < 1285618381 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble doooddodod < 1285618382 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dodoodddoo < 1285618383 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble alisealisealise < 1285618383 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aielsaiesleiasl < 1285618385 0 :oerjan!oerjan@sprocket.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1285618386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble dodoodddoo < 1285618387 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ddodooddoo < 1285618389 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^scramble ddodooddoo < 1285618389 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doodoododd < 1285618391 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay < 1285618393 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A cycle! < 1285618406 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what did we determine was the cycle length again? it was very trivial, n or 2n or something < 1285618410 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for length of string < 1285618411 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe n/2? no < 1285618415 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 2n either < 1285618416 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1285618417 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :permutations of finite sets usually have cycles, alise < 1285618417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably n < 1285618419 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hmm < 1285618422 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: shaddap < 1285618428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now figure out the cycle length again (it's trivial, iirc) < 1285618444 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: i wrote a haskell program for it iirc < 1285618452 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to scramble something, take two symbols from the head, place them on the output, then move in the middle and continue) < 1285618456 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*move to the middle and continue) < 1285618460 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, all the bot spam reminds me... did I ever mention my irc-bot in sed? that was pretty fun < 1285618498 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, nope < 1285618501 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :using nc -e, presumably? < 1285618505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or equivalent < 1285618511 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, equivalent < 1285618525 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my nc didn't have -e so I installed socat < 1285618541 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Candidate for governor of Oregon feels that waitresses make too much. < 1285618552 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Keep in mind that they generally make below minimum wage. < 1285618602 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Hobbit netcat with -DGAPING_SECURITY_HOLE ftw :P < 1285618610 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY ARE YOU SUDDENLY SO SLOW NT < 1285618689 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(any job in the US with a reasonable expectation of tips being paid can be paid below minimum wage) < 1285618706 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Main> map scrseq [1..50] < 1285618706 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1,2,3,3,5,6,4,4,9,6,11,10,9,14,5,5,12,18,12,10,7,12,23,21,8,26,20,9,29,30,6,6,33,22,35,9,20,30,39,27,41,8,28,11,12,10,36,24,15,50] :: [Int] < 1285618737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right, so completely random then < 1285618758 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: at least i don't recall if we found a formula < 1285618780 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure we did and then you said "oh that's fucking trivial you stupid moronic fuckface" < 1285618784 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe with a few less expletives < 1285618788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely random was a joke btw < 1285618801 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is scrseq n for a given n? < 1285618815 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: oh we probably looked it up on OEIS < 1285618825 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1285618839 0 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-238-95.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1285618839 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Least number m such that 2^m = +- 1 mod 2n + 1. < 1285618846 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT OF COURSE < 1285618867 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :log_2(A160657(n) + 2) - 1 where A160657 is The period of a 2-by-4n rectangular oscillator in the 2x2 (B36/S125) Life-like cellular automaton. < 1285618869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is interesting < 1285618873 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although probably a coincidence < 1285618936 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a003558 i guess, that's the name of the next function in the file < 1285618973 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's scrseq? < 1285618983 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i found it < 1285619007 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a function i wrote a long time ago for finding the cycle lengths of the scramble command < 1285619029 0 :Harpyon!~Harpyon@ti0031a380-0390.bb.online.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1285619031 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1285619038 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scrseq n = pertest srmlebac [1..n+1] < 1285619066 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the definition of the functions pertest and srmlebac are left as an exercise ;D) < 1285619169 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → biology
< 1285619212 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: at 8:26 pm? < 1285619226 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^srmlebac srmlebac < 1285619226 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :smeacblr < 1285619227 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1285619228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^srmlebac smeacblr < 1285619228 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seclrbam < 1285619231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^srmlebac seclrbam < 1285619231 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scramble < 1285619233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(secular bam) < 1285619241 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Dudley Do-Wrong you mean? < 1285619247 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(peculiar ham) < 1285619249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MATHEMATICA < 1285619249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Suborder[a_, n_] := If[n>1 && GCD[a, n]==1, Min[MultiplicativeOrder[a, n, {-1, 1}]], 0]; Table[Suborder[2, 2n+1], {n, 0, 100}] - T. D. Noe (noe(AT)sspectra.com), Aug 02 2006 < 1285619254 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure wish there was a nicer way of writing that. < 1285619268 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: so wait, i don't get it, what is the ordering of that sequence? < 1285619270 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you sounded like an acedemic teacher for a moment < 1285619272 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : [1,2,3,3,5,6,4,4,9,6,11,10,9,14,5,5,12,18,12,10,7,12,23,21,8,26,20,9,29,30,6,6,33,22,35,9,20,30,39,27,41,8,28,11,12,10,36,24,15,50] :: [Int] < 1285619374 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Biology != sleep. < 1285619389 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the study of living organisms. < 1285619455 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i never said sleep :P < 1285619466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHqh6EpkpRs an interesting, musical look into the mind of an anti-vaccination crazy < 1285619577 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: you might find it interesting that norway has no minimum wage law (afair), we just have very strong unions. there is however a law against "social dumping" which allows the government in some cases to declare that the union wage agreements must be applied to non-unionized workers/companies in the same field < 1285619614 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(/me isn't sure of the english terminology for all this) < 1285619630 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: All correct terminology, it seems. < 1285619648 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: BTW, unlike in Norway, a minimum wage is *very* necessary. < 1285619667 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Employers here seem to think that they're hiring slaves, except with money being traded. < 1285619675 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: OH NOES IT HAS A LIVE VIRUS! < 1285619713 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purdue has two poultry science buildings. < 1285619728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: EVERYTHING IS OK < 1285619749 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the law has been applied in particular to construction workers, because there are a number of firms that _try_ to treat polish (mainly) immigrant workers like that < 1285619760 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT'S RARCISM < 1285619768 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Eh, they're pollacks. < 1285619772 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: $2.50/hr is not-unusual for waiters. < 1285619777 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're like, 3/5ths of a person. < 1285619781 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That video is utter pollacks. < 1285619786 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HYUK HYUK < 1285619802 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not that they're polish really, it's that they're not norwegian and so has a harder time finding out how to get their rights < 1285619803 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And that's 1/5th less than black people using AMERICAN MATHEMATICS! < 1285619810 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: *have < 1285619815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do your languages not have a different term for has/have? < 1285619822 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly Vorpal is much, much worse about it, but then he's stupid < 1285619823 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so unscrupulous employers abuse them < 1285619840 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: No. < 1285619848 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: norwegian has no person or number ending on verbs < 1285619851 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: They're 3/5ths too, hence why I used that fraction :P < 1285619870 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1285619879 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(neither does swedish, although they seem to have lost it somewhat later than us i think) < 1285619881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot; thought it was 3/4ths. < 1285619881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well < 1285619885 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AMERICAN MATHEMATICS < 1285619892 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: then Vorpal has no excuse :D < 1285619914 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: that was dropped long before my time at least < 1285619924 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you're like 20 :P < 1285619930 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: um how so? i think in swedish it's mainly for poetry or something < 1285619930 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Wow, it's going to install 173.74 megabytes. < 1285619943 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I had no idea VC++ 2.0 was so big. :-P < 1285619948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although that's the full installation, so. < 1285619955 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Not even a standard option; you have to custom-configure it.) < 1285619960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he gets has/have wrong all the time in English < 1285619961 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas you don't < 1285619964 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: BTW, in MOST states, the state minimum wage overrides the federal minimum wage regulation that allows waiters to earn less than minimum wage pre-tip. Oregon is such a state. < 1285619967 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you lost it earlier than them < 1285619970 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so should be worse at it < 1285619977 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though that makes no sense, but < 1285619991 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: so wait, i don't get it, what is the ordering of that sequence? <-- what? < 1285619993 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Dayum, I was hoping you were gonna say that states can set the minimum wage even lower. < 1285619997 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be hilarious. < 1285620000 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: of the scrambling sequence < 1285620003 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cycle length < 1285620004 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what order is it < 1285620005 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in < 1285620012 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1285620015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's length 1, length 2, ... < 1285620017 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Also, Oregon minimum wage rises automatically with inflation. < 1285620019 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess i'm a bit stupid, also < 1285620033 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: well "left as an exercise" is of course academic, and can also be used as a joke when you're too lazy to write things out < 1285620046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :groan, it installs into D:\WINNT\SYTSEM32 < 1285620054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is probably somehow the source of the crashing < 1285620087 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: wtf? < 1285620095 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Installs what there? < 1285620101 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it has "System Files: D:\WINNT\SYSTEM32" in the directory selection thing, uneditable < 1285620104 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in the where to install to box < 1285620108 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :implying that it installs some stuff into there < 1285620113 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably DLLs or LIBs or whatever < 1285620120 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, but DLLs should be fine :P < 1285620127 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: enjoy your VS symbiont < 1285620128 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that it crashes only after the first reboot < 1285620131 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which makes no sense at all < 1285620134 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i am abandoning all logic < 1285620141 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It crashed immediately after install for me. < 1285620142 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait maybe it wants a valid product ID :-D < 1285620149 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i understand, but usually teachers are lazy < 1285620150 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: my impression is that polish people are generally looked at favorably in norway (unlike the roma(nians)) < 1285620154 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever you're installing (didn't you say you had VS installed already?) < 1285620171 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: But ... but ... POLLACKS < 1285620171 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: can I set the organisation to "Greg & Elliott Research Foundation"? < 1285620176 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: There's no VS this far back, noob :P < 1285620177 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION notes that those antivax people in the song use Comic Sans on their posters.
< 1285620182 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? :F < 1285620184 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: My name is not Greg. < 1285620187 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(the fact that norway has the lowest unemployment in europe probably helps) < 1285620189 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: It is now, though. < 1285620190 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Also, GERF is a terrible name. < 1285620196 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GERF X-D < 1285620214 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds like the wretching sound you make when throwing up spicy food. < 1285620240 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pollacks can be annoying < 1285620248 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: VC++ then? which is exactly what I mean when I say VS, usually < 1285620258 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good i'm not one of them ;] < 1285620264 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: VISUAL C SHARP DOT NET < 1285620284 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Fine, "Fantabtastic Ontological Richards New Intelligent Coding Apex Technologies Indicating Noodly Greatness" < 1285620328 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: scrseq n tests the iterations of the list [1..n+1], so it starts with length 2 < 1285620330 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: because NT is short for dotNeT < 1285620335 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will be the company underlying the Advanced Nonlinear Audio LIbrary and Sound Exchange for X11 < 1285620390 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: my has/have deteriorates when i am writing in a hurry, of course (like now when i'm far up in the backscroll) < 1285620406 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: And the Fabricator Upsilon Cooking Kit, a miniature CPU fabricator that you can fit on to a large, sturdy table, with an eccentric, Victorian-style manual. < 1285620434 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool < 1285620472 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laneialanamalanalamaianamama < 1285620483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the "Pontificating Only Loquaciously And Never Dying", a miniature Furby-style Jesus. < 1285620490 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga is the target market. < 1285620501 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :f... you ;d < 1285620517 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i am not entirely sure you are not missing the joke entirely < 1285620524 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even my grandma wouldn't buy that < 1285620530 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: fail < 1285620557 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it's POLAND, i know ;p < 1285620564 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1285620612 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANALSEX, FUCK and POLAND, excellent products -- and all from FORNICATING, Incoproated. Your first choice for all kinds of shit. < 1285620650 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You broke something horribly. < 1285620662 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm reinstalling. Maybe. < 1285620695 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What ever happened to Furby. < 1285620704 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: You should have kept backups of the hard disk and nvram. < 1285620715 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mv c.img c000.img && qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b c000.img c.img < 1285620717 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You should never have got her pregnant. < 1285620718 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what whaaaaaaaaaaaat < 1285620735 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Gregor: You should never have got her pregnant. what whaaaaaaaaaaaat < 1285620738 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Still bullshit. < 1285620759 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^Cehird@dinky:~/NT4$ ls < 1285620759 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARCINST.EXE openbios-ppc-1.0+svn505 README.1ST < 1285620759 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CD openbios-ppc_1.0+svn505.orig.tar.gz RISCOS.RAW < 1285620759 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CONFTEST.EXE openbios-ppc_1.0+svn640-1_all.deb SETUP.EXE < 1285620761 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo pass setup.zip < 1285620763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mips.disk ppc_rom.bin shit < 1285620765 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mipsel_bios.bin qemu-0.10.6 simulator.jar < 1285620767 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mol-0.9.72.1 qemu-0.10.6.tar.gz WindowsNT4Server.iso < 1285620769 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :msvc20-mips.iso qemu-0.12.5 < 1285620771 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nvram qemu-0.12.5.tar.gz < 1285620773 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO MUCH CRAP < 1285620788 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It is still BS for a gubernatorial candidate to say that, yes, but he has relevant context. < 1285620828 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b c000.img c.img" ;; what does *this* do? < 1285620842 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Creates a COW image with c000.img as the backing image. < 1285620843 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :228| Gregor: You should never have got her pregnant. what whaaaaaaaaaaaat < 1285620871 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: However, Oregon has the second-highest minimum wage in the country, only behind Washington (and only by 15 cents, though both grow by inflation so the gap will only get larger) < 1285620913 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Backing image? < 1285620965 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Aaand is it still a livable wage? < 1285620980 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It's copy on write, BTW. < 1285621025 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh, apperently .smf is midi and actually more "correct" than the normal .mid < 1285621093 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : do your languages not have a different term for has/have? <---- no why would they? < 1285621107 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (neither does swedish, although they seem to have lost it somewhat later than us i think) <-- we used to have that? < 1285621112 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANY DISTINCTION MY LANGUAGE DOES NOT MAKE IS AN IRRELEVANT ONE < 1285621126 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BEHOLD MY FIERCE, DENIED NATIONALISM < 1285621165 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that strawman was so bad it was starwars-holiday-special-bad < 1285621184 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So's your mother. < 1285621199 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1285621204 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on, you're at the very least intensely anti-american < 1285621228 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: So're many Americans. Your point? :P < 1285621251 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: at least they complain about things that *matter* < 1285621270 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal just whines whenever anyone says "United States" and then doesn't also say a European country < 1285621280 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because Sweden is as big and important as the United States of America < 1285621281 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was at most anti-English, not anti-American specifically... < 1285621291 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm just trying to piss you off < 1285621294 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tbh < 1285621306 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Mmm, true. < 1285621343 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I NEED THE PRODUCT KEY AGAIN DUDEY DUDE < 1285621351 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I'm not at home, check the logs. < 1285621357 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: OKAY DUDEY DUDE < 1285621363 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ohwait I PMed it so it's not in the logs :P < 1285621364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/QUERY GREGOR WORKS IN UPPERCASE THIS MAKES ME HAPPY < 1285621366 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Check your own log. < 1285621376 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :check your unborn mother's log < 1285621417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I quote, "FUCKING 28997-OEM-0025957-49297" < 1285621424 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Gregor gets sent to jail] < 1285621427 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you always are < 1285621427 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*gaol < 1285621434 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION hates Monkey audio
< 1285621435 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: in my defence, it always works < 1285621437 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: why? < 1285621440 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :apart from it sucking < 1285621440 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, since I was not whining at all it didn't really work < 1285621442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. Monkey's audio < 1285621449 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: "Monkey's Audio source can be included in GPL and open-source software, although Monkey's Audio itself will not be subjected to external licensing requirements or other viral source restrictions." < 1285621453 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fail is strong with this one. < 1285621457 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah that < 1285621459 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, no, it did not change basic pissedoffness against you < 1285621468 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I'm *always* pissed off with you < 1285621468 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, some idiot made a torrent using .ape files instead of FLAC < 1285621471 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1285621485 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: is 1024 concurrent connections really enough? < 1285621489 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I suggest 8096. < 1285621502 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, .ape? < 1285621531 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a horrible pun < 1285621565 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What moron uses Monkey's Audio for actual distribution, anyways? < 1285621591 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, apart from the legal issues, is it actually any good? < 1285621628 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pretty sure it predates flac < 1285621643 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Fantastic since we can't even get ONE inbound connection usefully :P < 1285621647 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from what I remember wavpack is pretty good < 1285621664 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, connections for what? < 1285621672 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: NT 4 MIPS < 1285621676 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Potentially interesting idea: a conservative CA. < 1285621677 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1285621678 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*NT Server 4 MIPS < 1285621685 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it rejects evolution < 1285621697 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, no, it would make it more viable. < 1285621702 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's got a slightly higher compression ratio, and is much more expensive to decode. < 1285621713 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If all state transitions maintain cell counts, then organisms need food. < 1285621714 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's why I made my GC non-conservative. < 1285621719 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: example from swedish bible: 2 Mosebok 1:1 Och dessa äro namnen på Israels söner, som kommo till Egypten < 1285621721 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, hm < 1285621724 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Specifically: decoding and encoding take the same time. < 1285621725 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err < 1285621730 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which implies interesting selection pressures. < 1285621740 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, well, that is not uncommon. isn't it the case for bz2 too? < 1285621750 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NetBEUI fuck yeah < 1285621753 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: did you install NetBEUI? < 1285621758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: i was joking < 1285621765 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It sucks for an audio format, though. < 1285621770 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: But bz2 sucks arse, lzma for the win :P < 1285621782 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I got that. < 1285621783 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: FLAC, in comparison, can reasonably be decoded faster-than-realtime on a 50 MHz CPU. < 1285621798 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: If that's an alternative to TCP/IP then no. If that's something else, then I installed it if it was on by default. < 1285621810 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's one of the networking options < 1285621821 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: As in, one of the networking PROTOCOLS? < 1285621828 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: One that you can choose as well as TCP/IP? < 1285621829 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yes < 1285621831 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Vorpal: But bz2 sucks arse, lzma for the win :P <-- true < 1285621836 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I only enabled TCP/IP. < 1285621838 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but lzma hasn't been around that long < 1285621838 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetBIOS < 1285621841 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not on linux at least < 1285621843 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but others are enabled by default < 1285621846 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T CARE :P < 1285621850 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bz2 used to be the default choice just 2-3 years ago < 1285621854 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: That was my only change from the default. < 1285621880 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREGOR: WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT < 1285621887 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I only wanted TCP/IP < 1285621890 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FASCIST < 1285621896 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1285621899 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Welcome to 1998 < 1285621909 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's an absurd attack < 1285621937 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, how does wavpack and flac compare? < 1285621937 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But did you instal... IPX? (How could you live without!) < 1285621947 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I did not :P < 1285621963 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, what about SCTP over IPv6? < 1285621969 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(develop support if missing) < 1285621970 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: NT 4 < 1285621974 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1285621976 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, write the drivers for it! < 1285621982 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, it needs to be done! < 1285622003 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, tunneling over ipsec using X502 certificates of course :P < 1285622019 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably painful to implement that < 1285622040 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: *install, fascist < 1285622058 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, did you not notice the ...? < 1285622069 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, obviously he ended in the middle of a word < 1285622075 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, I s... < 1285622109 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's tha- RADIATION WASH < 1285622150 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Completing words is for the we-- < 1285622152 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, inde... < 1285622177 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: if you look at http://sv.bibelsite.com/exodus/1-1.htm you see that the danish and norwegian versions have no plural endings. although they are/may be a couple decades younger. and the bible may of course be written more traditionally than other texts < 1285622227 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well yes for var and such. But for "har" specifically I meant < 1285622237 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders how you would go about designing a conservative CA.
< 1285622255 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I don't think it is "haro" at least < 1285622269 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, define what you mean by a conservative CA? < 1285622271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: they surely must exist < 1285622271 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Wavpack is very slightly better than FLAC, but less supported. < 1285622275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: preserves cell count on all transitions < 1285622282 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ah < 1285622286 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What alise said. < 1285622289 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: hm well "kommo" has a plural so it would be strange if har didn't < 1285622290 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hmm, doesn't that mean that energy can never be created or destroyed? ME LIKEY < 1285622300 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's why I was considering them. < 1285622303 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :means you need an infinite plane though if you want utopia :) < 1285622305 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, there is an obvious one < 1285622307 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ^ < 1285622308 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinite plane tiled with food < 1285622311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "id", har har < 1285622313 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it won't be TC though < 1285622325 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, preferably an interesting one. < 1285622328 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIS supports gopher, so cool so COOL < 1285622332 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that one too, but I didn't think of that one < 1285622339 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: invert? < 1285622345 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I was thinking "move everything one cell left each turn" < 1285622374 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and invert would not preserve it? Or what do you mean < 1285622386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :left? wrapping, presumably < 1285622391 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since CAs are neighbourhood-based < 1285622393 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not global < 1285622397 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's sort of the point < 1285622402 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, true, invert wouldn't XD < 1285622404 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, more than 2 states < 1285622411 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :perfectly possible < 1285622414 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :transition rules get ugly though < 1285622417 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exactly < 1285622417 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i would expect "havo", but that gives no hits < 1285622421 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :often done, though < 1285622422 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see golly < 1285622436 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it should be possible to do "move one left" by having more than 2 states, no? < 1285622450 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: The WINE version remembers time. Er, wait, actually I haven't closed QEMU once. < 1285622452 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Never mind. < 1285622458 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Uhh, sure, I guess. < 1285622463 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1285622466 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Er, yes. < 1285622467 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, as long as you only count "any on" vs. "off" < 1285622467 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1285622468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1285622470 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes it would be < 1285622472 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Yes it would be. < 1285622483 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, it would be rather painful to get working I suspect < 1285622487 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1285622491 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you only need one colour < 1285622493 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"absorb me" < 1285622498 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, it's easy enough if you drop some symmetries. < 1285622498 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the next generation, < 1285622505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the cell to the left can pull it to its side < 1285622507 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, hm? < 1285622508 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the one can die out < 1285622509 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maaybe < 1285622511 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1285622512 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1285622512 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not sure < 1285622520 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, the transition table is literally one line. < 1285622528 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, lets settle for "might be possible" then < 1285622554 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And some variable definitions. < 1285622579 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's possible. probably. < 1285622581 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1285622582 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is possible < 1285622585 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :almost certainly < 1285622589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1285622590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is < 1285622595 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i... think < 1285622598 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, XD < 1285622603 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop that < 1285622604 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, this is getting absurd now you know < 1285622605 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hurts < 1285622610 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hurts my brain < 1285622617 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, who should stop what? < 1285622619 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like you < 1285622621 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: stop talking about it < 1285622623 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no_states:2 < 1285622625 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is make me confuse < 1285622628 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, talking about what? < 1285622632 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neighborhood:vonNeumann < 1285622632 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAA < 1285622636 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :symmetry:none < 1285622639 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, hm < 1285622647 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, neighborhood:vonNeumann ? < 1285622652 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :var a, b, c={0,1} < 1285622659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@dinky:~/Downloads/golly-2.1-src$ make -f makefile-gtk bgolly < 1285622659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g++ `wx-config --cxxflags` -O5 -DZLIB -DVERSION=2.1 -Wall -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-strict-aliasing -c -o ObjGTK/bigint.o bigint.cpp < 1285622659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Assembler messages: < 1285622659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fatal error: can't create ObjGTK/bigint.o: No such file or directory < 1285622661 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phail. < 1285622667 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION compiles regular golly first
< 1285622668 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1,a,b,c,1 < 1285622670 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which creates the directory < 1285622671 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There we go. < 1285622676 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I just got the binary. < 1285622679 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, bgolly? < 1285622682 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: on linux? no thanks < 1285622686 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: batch version of golly < 1285622688 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just compiling it for completeness < 1285622691 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ah < 1285622712 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I was in a rush and couldn't be bothered kicking my way through 10^3 dependencies. < 1285622722 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's like 0 dependencies < 1285622724 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um it doesn't have that < 1285622725 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you just install wxwidgets dev < 1285622728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ? < 1285622729 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gtk. that's about it iirc < 1285622731 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Plural forms of verbs were made optional in Swedish secondary schools in 1944 and had fully disappeared by 1970." < 1285622736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wxwidgets < 1285622737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not gtk < 1285622739 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1285622748 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also optionally python and perl but you already have them :P < 1285622759 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is rather later than both the danish and norwegian in the previous link < 1285622778 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hm, and what about "har"? < 1285622809 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, hm "hava" but that might be yet another archaic version. Don't think it is third person stuff at least < 1285622814 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The -om/-en forms were used in the 1917 Swedish translation of the Bible, although they had already been obsolete for a long time." < 1285622821 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wxpython.cpp:330: error: ‘G_PyErr_SetString’ cannot be used as a function < 1285622823 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Swedish_obsolete_verb_forms) < 1285622825 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :correction, needs python development libraries < 1285622831 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, x84-64? < 1285622834 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Later < 1285622835 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. why? < 1285622839 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, then python support is broken in golly < 1285622842 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x84 lol < 1285622844 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or at least was half a year ago < 1285622849 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yeah half a year ago :P < 1285622849 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, oops < 1285622851 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably works now < 1285622853 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think it worked quite recently < 1285622854 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ah < 1285622857 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 is such an ugly name < 1285622859 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, there hasn't been a release lately. < 1285622864 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as is x86-64 < 1285622868 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it works with the 32-bit binary... < 1285622872 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Changes in version 2.1 (released September 2009) < 1285622885 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<6 months ago. < 1285622886 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, m68000 is a lot nicer < 1285622894 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1285622896 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :68k is a nice name < 1285622898 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so is ppc, alpha, mips < 1285622901 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86 is just fugly < 1285622908 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I intentionally used it's full name :P < 1285622911 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ia32 is "better" but intel-specific and ia64 doesn't mean what you think it means < 1285622938 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe sa32/sa64, for standard architecture :P < 1285622942 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pa32/pa64, pc architecture < 1285622958 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I read the latter one has ppc first somehow < 1285622985 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86_64 is undoubtedly the ugliest name, though < 1285622997 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can we *please* just let the underscore die anywhere within a km of prose? < 1285623000 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, wikipedia mentions these names for 68k: 680x0/m68k/68k/68K < 1285623008 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :68k is obviously the most pleasing < 1285623023 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, and no we need the underscore to not break target triplets < 1285623030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, shut up < 1285623031 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it might be hava, that page says most verbs used the same form as the infinitive (which was hava previously) and those are not listed < 1285623033 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's code < 1285623037 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, like x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu < 1285623039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and legacy design because of that flaw :P < 1285623040 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's code < 1285623044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no need to *call* it that < 1285623055 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x86-64 is infinitely preferable < 1285623070 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yes we should all say "ex eight six underscore six four" :P < 1285623091 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i pronounce it "ex eight six sixty-four" < 1285623091 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some_said_the_world_should_end_in_fire < 1285623109 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, not eighty six? < 1285623109 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ex eighty-six sixty-four" < 1285623120 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wxperl.cpp:(.text+0x3f88): undefined reference to `Perl_newSV_type' < 1285623123 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BUT I INSTALLED IT ;_; < 1285623125 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no < 1285623132 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because i call x86 "ex eight six" < 1285623140 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not even eighty-six really < 1285623151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"80486" < 1285623151 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, hm I call x86 "ex åttiosex" < 1285623154 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean sort of, but eh < 1285623157 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :attiosex < 1285623158 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(go on, have fun at Swedish) < 1285623161 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I know you will) < 1285623163 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sex in the attio < 1285623169 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, attosex. < 1285623171 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, en:six = sv:sex < 1285623180 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't let Sgeo hear. < 1285623187 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ... ? < 1285623190 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1285623200 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, IT'S IN THE LOGS FROM YESTERDAY < 1285623204 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, if you had said augur instead I wounder have understood the joke < 1285623207 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but this makes no sense < 1285623219 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't log read unless I'm highlighted < 1285623230 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T SEE WHY I SHOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN THINGS WHICH YOU WOULD KNOW IF YOU HAD READ THE LOG < 1285623243 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god I wish this ircd had +B < 1285623258 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I AM VORPAL AND I WILL NOT BOTHER EXPLAINING THINGS < 1285623270 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, oh I would explain if you asked, nicely < 1285623278 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ah found a nicely archaic one :D "Huru hava icke hjältarna fallit i striden!" (2 Samuelsbokem 1:25) < 1285623296 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, um... I'm not completely sure what it means < 1285623298 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, what's up with that Perl thing, by the way? < 1285623304 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the main message I get yes < 1285623309 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not why it is "hava" there < 1285623309 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: LDFLAGS+=-lperl instead spits out wx errors < 1285623325 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: because hjältarna is plural? < 1285623347 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, isn't hava about infinitive or something such strange? < 1285623370 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: it's infinite _and_ plural, as i guessed above < 1285623379 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most verbs used the same form for both < 1285623387 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, so what about present tense and plural? < 1285623399 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that's what i meant < 1285623402 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1285623415 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought you meant infinite-plural vs. present-plural < 1285623472 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :afaik infinitive hasn't had a plural since ancient times < 1285623476 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if ever < 1285623502 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ah < 1285623603 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you will note that infinitive and (3rd person) plural coincide for most verbs in english and german as well < 1285623639 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW INSTALL < 1285623664 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*present plural < 1285623702 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, what was that about sgeo < 1285623722 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm wait neither english nor german distinguish persons for plural verbs afair < 1285623722 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, not for have? < 1285623738 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hprmf < 1285623746 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, am/are/is? < 1285623752 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: to have, they have. zu haben, sie haben. i think they do. < 1285623762 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, "I have" < 1285623770 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is only different there for third person singular < 1285623777 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: that's not infinitive! < 1285623796 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, oh right, thought we were talking about present tense again? < 1285623817 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well i just chose 3rd person present plural as the form i was sure both english and german tended to make equal to the infinitive < 1285623834 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3rd person actually was redundant there) < 1285623836 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1285623858 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :english of course uses it for 1st and 2nd person singular too < 1285623884 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, I don't think Swedish handled third person singular different than first person singular though? < 1285623917 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, just singular/plural < 1285623929 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: not in relatively modern times, i guess. the page i linked _does_ mention it at one time distinguished different _plural_ persons < 1285623939 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ouch < 1285623944 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm glad I live now and not then < 1285623971 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :old norse distinguished all forms of course, to the degree that it could leave out pronouns iirc < 1285623999 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1285624044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Golly application can be installed anywhere you like, but make < 1285624044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sure you move the whole folder because the various subfolders must < 1285624044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :be kept with the application. < 1285624045 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like several modern romance languages do (italian and i believe spanish) < 1285624047 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love how awful that is. < 1285624049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't you, Phantom_Hoover? < 1285624056 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, very risc I guess < 1285624063 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :risc? < 1285624070 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes < 1285624079 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I had to use a script to launch it. < 1285624084 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, few instructions, lots of flags < 1285624085 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :icelandic might still leave out pronouns, i'm not sure < 1285624100 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, icelandic is a class on it's own < 1285624125 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well yeah but it's closer to old norse than any other living language < 1285624126 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't get around that effing Perl problem... < 1285624134 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can I test Python support? < 1285624137 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I got it working. < 1285624137 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well actually Finnish might be able to compete with Icelandic in convolutedness < 1285624148 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: make clean && make -f makefile-gtk LDFLAGS+="-lperl $(wx-config --libs)" < 1285624151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1285624157 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make -f makefile-gtk clean && make -f makefile-gtk LDFLAGS+="-lperl $(wx-config --libs)" < 1285624157 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, try one of the Python scripts? < 1285624163 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that langtons-ant-in-life used python iirc < 1285624166 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. < 1285624171 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to set bg colours < 1285624178 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where is it? < 1285624181 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, there's a giant Python script collection! < 1285624183 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well naturally. finnish has plenty of person endings, i don't recall if they leave out pronouns regularly though < 1285624184 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, in life < 1285624191 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, not in "other" < 1285624197 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, since it emulates it all in life iirc < 1285624198 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hungarian does though, a slightly related language to finnish < 1285624201 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use the MWSS gun script. < 1285624207 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or what Phantom_Hoover said < 1285624219 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're all .rles. < 1285624222 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ask fizzie ? < 1285624226 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ? < 1285624237 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: does finnish leave out many personal pronouns? < 1285624255 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, the Python scripts? < 1285624258 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, lol < 1285624260 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scripts were hidden < 1285624275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lacks Py_InitModule4. < 1285624275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hrm. < 1285624284 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll build it 32-bit. < 1285624331 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... Why not just use the binary? < 1285624348 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because that's not terribly reliable and why do they use -O5. < 1285624399 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To OPTIMISE things! < 1285624403 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@dinky:~/Downloads/golly-2.1-src$ make -f makefile-gtk CXXFLAGS+="-m32" LDFLAGS+="-m32 -lperl $(wx-config --libs)" < 1285624414 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, I need 32-bit wx libs. < 1285624428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now how can I get them? < 1285624442 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, which compiler < 1285624452 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? g++. < 1285624459 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1285624461 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I meant that they used -O5 with < 1285624463 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT : < 1285624464 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grr @ how few lib32 packages there are. < 1285624465 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: g++ < 1285624465 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, iirc clang goes to 5 < 1285624468 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1285624471 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that sounded familiar < 1285624473 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1285624477 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is *THAT* was clang is about? < 1285624490 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very well, easy to beat then < 1285624494 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :5 < 11 < 1285624499 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION makes a fork that goes to 11
< 1285624533 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders why Py_Init4 was.
< 1285624544 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT I WANT 64-BIT GOLLY < 1285624546 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, ah it goes to -O4 < 1285624550 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still, one more than gcc < 1285624554 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the pattern is obvious < 1285624561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :InitModule, you mean. < 1285624566 0 :Slereah!~nigger@ANantes-259-1-117-101.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1285624573 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION downloads the binary in exasperation
< 1285624592 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would likely be cool pattern: Still-life that when hit by one glider in suitable way transforms into caterpillar. :-) < 1285624612 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, basically the issue is that they try to load it dynamically and fail badly at handling python macro stuff < 1285624631 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1285624638 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :32-bit golly works < 1285624640 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowly as ever < 1285624648 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, golly isn't slow? < 1285624651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the UI sure is < 1285624656 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sluggish < 1285624661 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 64-bit one isn't. < 1285624667 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it is < 1285624668 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or not as much. < 1285624668 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, um, it is snappy for me on my thinkpad. 64-bit binary of course < 1285624670 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just tried the 64-bit one < 1285624678 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the 32-bit one < 1285624679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :both sluggish UIs < 1285624687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not that sluggish < 1285624689 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :64-bit is more sluggish < 1285624694 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1285624696 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1285624703 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I never had that issue < 1285624719 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: is there a chained gosper gun anywhere in the standard collection? < 1285624724 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1285624753 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I invented it independently, but someone else probably did it, since it's pretty obvious.. < 1285624787 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a matter of lining up multiple QB shuttles so they all interact to make the glider-producing reaction. < 1285624795 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do upload an rle file. < 1285624810 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1285624877 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285624948 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastebin.com/kfH1mw7M < 1285624966 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a quadruple-barrel one. < 1285625006 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To add shuttles, delete the end block and add another shuttle when the previous end one reaches the right phase. < 1285625081 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what is that? < 1285625140 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if you have QaQbB where B is a block and Qa and Qb are relevant phases of the shuttle, QaQb → QcQa → QcQaQbB < 1285625155 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, extension to the Gosper glider gun < 1285625158 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of CA is this? < 1285625166 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what are those symbols < 1285625169 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, rle-encoded Life. < 1285625172 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1285625175 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*rle < 1285625181 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No encoded. < 1285625192 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, wiat. < 1285625194 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*wait. < 1285625201 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, forget the quandary. < 1285625231 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the Gosper gun principle can be extended to the twin bee guns. < 1285625252 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, it just exploded... < 1285625256 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAA < 1285625298 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gosper gun is a very fun word < 1285625313 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, fixed it. < 1285625332 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I may have flipped a cell accidentally.... < 1285625333 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it a gun for use by gospers (I'm thinking that would be something similar to a half-human gopher), or is it a gun that shoots gospers? < 1285625352 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, it's a glider gun created by Bill Gosper. < 1285625356 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : gosper gun is a very fun word <-- not as fun as "gospel gun" though < 1285625362 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Life objects tend to have pretty cool names. < 1285625413 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That pastebin works, by the way. < 1285625416 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, such as: http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/index.php?title=134P39.1 < 1285625419 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I messed up my local copu. < 1285625421 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a cool name I guess < 1285625421 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*copy < 1285625444 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(random click on the wiki got there there) < 1285625458 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, more like Herschel technology, the lightspeed telegraph etc. < 1285625472 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that is not the majority though < 1285625479 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an oscillator called the pentadecathlon, and another called the candlefrobra. < 1285625525 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, interesting and useful objects have nice names, though. < 1285625594 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the catacryst and metacatacryst. Mustn't forget them. < 1285625609 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Along with Corderships, powered by switch engines. < 1285625676 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :switch engine, sounds like a kind of hyperdrive < 1285625715 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Yes, we do often leave out the pronouns in favour of suffixes. < 1285625744 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, it's kind of a weird puffer. < 1285625755 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. one with no spaceship backbone. < 1285625808 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Most puffers work by having a bit of junk acting as the engine, which is stabilised by a spaceship escort.) < 1285625842 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is quite awesome, terminologically speaking < 1285625848 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Corderships are a number of switch engines arranged so that they clean up their own debris. < 1285625879 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although they can be made to do all sorts of cool things. < 1285625908 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interestingly, Corderships can survive a couple of hits from a glider or other object. < 1285625945 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it takes out an engine or two and turns it into a puffer. < 1285626230 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Welcome honored guest. I got the key you want! would you like onderves. of Yourself < 1285626398 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC there was a p14 gun somewhere, but I can't remember exactly. < 1285626408 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*pseudo-gun < 1285626420 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It spliced higher-period streams. < 1285626478 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :night → < 1285626847 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285627099 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → sleep
< 1285627292 0 :Sgeo!~ubuntu@137.125.178.117 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285627357 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1285627399 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I will now reinstall MSVC++. < 1285627401 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then never turn it off. < 1285627408 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :savevm < 1285627440 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Dude, this is NT. I think it was 95 -- no, 98 -- that a bug when if you left it on for too long it overflowed 2^32 ms and froze. < 1285627446 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't have much better hopes for NT 4 on MIPS < 1285627552 0 :Harpyon!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Harpyon < 1285627562 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2^32ms is about 7 weeks < 1285627584 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but please do leave it on for 7 weeks just to see what happens to it < 1285627636 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is a server OS. I'm sure that there was a REAL MIPS NT 4 system that reliably ran for more than 7 weeks. < 1285627644 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1285627651 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe it was scheduled to reboot every 6 weeks < 1285627655 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you so sure about that, Gregor :P < 1285627662 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just did anyway :P < 1285627667 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is Windows and ISS here, not exactly the paragon of stability < 1285627679 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it probably crashes before you can ever reach 7 weeks uptime < 1285627682 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or wait no < 1285627684 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nothing supports NT 4 < 1285627687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so we're safe < 1285627756 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmm. < 1285627760 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Observation: < 1285627762 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::f < 1285627774 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Playstation Move controller is 100% more dildesque than the Wii controller. < 1285627779 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even taking the name "Wii" into account. < 1285627788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FIRST LOGON SO SLOW < 1285627799 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Do a comparative test and upload it to YouTube. < 1285627848 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sphere at the top is just so kooky. < 1285627855 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also how the hell am I meant to hit those four auxiliary buttons? They so tiny < 1285627897 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAGH THE TAGS ARENT IN MUSICBRAINZ < 1285627919 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A Comparative Study of the Utility as a Sexual Aid of Motion-Based Game Controllers for the Wii, PlayStation 3 and X-Box 360 < 1285628004 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this study is a wii bit out of the x-box < 1285628015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: WHY IS IT SO SLOW TO START WITH < 1285628016 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ha ha < 1285628022 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: *Xbox, also < 1285628031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, that capitalisation is horrible < 1285628035 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, it's the correct one < 1285628041 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hy-phenation is a art < 1285628050 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: This is a research paper, it was supposed to be intentionally wrongish :P < 1285628071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bananas in My Space, or, A Comparative Study of the Utility as a Sexual Aid of Motion-Based Game Controllers for the Wii, PlayStation 3 and X-Box 360 < 1285628098 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A paper targeted at the cross-section of people who have read classic functional programming papers and want to use game console controllers as dildos. < 1285628103 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... wait, what the hell @ xbox 360 < 1285628107 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW DOES THAT EVEN < 1285628117 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that does *not* go anywhere near anyone's anus. new rule. < 1285628122 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1285628137 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Natal/Kinect doesn't even have a controller, so lawl < 1285628145 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exactly ;) < 1285628197 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The camera for it is a LITTLE bit dildesque. < 1285628244 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Reinstalling MSVC++2 < 1285628249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*MSVC++ 2 < 1285628252 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1285628256 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just use it from the console < 1285628257 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pussy < 1285628261 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noob < 1285628279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...so basically, using Kinect's controller as a dildo = self-fisting < 1285628293 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/KinectSensor.png This is not a phallic camera at all, dude, what the hell are you on? < 1285628298 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1285628548 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dildos < 1285628559 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder how they produce them < 1285628619 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly they use casts < 1285628718 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't imagine it's more complicated than pouring something into a mold and allowing it to dry. < 1285628790 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what!? < 1285628811 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idonno, some kind of molten soft plastic or something? < 1285628831 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eh < 1285628836 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try to melt goddamn plastic < 1285628850 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... use heat? < 1285628902 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/User:Dankogai ;; we have a semi-famous guy on the wiki! < 1285628912 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait, no < 1285628913 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really famous < 1285628920 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Former CTO of Livedoor is on our wiki. Apparently. < 1285628976 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: then it will burn < 1285629026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Waddafuh? VC++ crashes from the start now. < 1285629047 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :livedoor -> moon runes < 1285629081 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1285629207 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's that injection molding thing; I guess with many plastics you can't quite get it molten enough for regular cast molding, but it goes soft enough that you can use a suitable plunger-style tool to squirt it inside a mold. < 1285629252 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: *How* can it break a second time like this?! < 1285629290 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :burnt plastic is cool < 1285629565 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rubbish, it's hot. at least initially. < 1285629661 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So... burnt plastic is cool, but rubbish in general is hot? < 1285629669 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How confusing. < 1285629708 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was hoping you wouldn't notice that. < 1285629809 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Um, how do we extract archives on this thing? < 1285629831 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Archive O' Magic has tar and g[un]zip < 1285629841 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Archive O' Magic? XD < 1285629847 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :link me again? < 1285629861 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1285629882 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Oh find it your damn self < 1285629905 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://vpsland.superglobalmegacorp.com/install/WindowsNT4.0-MIPS/ < 1285629940 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How to get a link there: bit.ly it and type the result out :P http://bit.ly/bhSZjs (gunzip) < 1285629961 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: This is my favourite operating system. < 1285629964 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You must port gelfload. < 1285629968 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be exquisite. < 1285629980 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOL < 1285629982 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bitly links don't work < 1285629993 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tinyurl.com/3xogy4h < 1285630003 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nor tinyurl, crap. < 1285630032 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Info-ZIP's zip/unzip seems to have NT/{Alpha,PPC,MIPS} binaries; though this was just a filename listing, didn't verify that they actually exist somewhere. < 1285630045 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You know... if you substitute words other than "MIPS" into that link... well... < 1285630067 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...not much, admittedly. < 1285630076 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yeah, I already tried :P < 1285630082 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Not much there. < 1285630085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's directories without the 4.0, too. < 1285630088 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But with rachitectures. < 1285630102 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You realize there's a directory listing, right? :P < 1285630108 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOUR MOM IS A DIRECTORY LISTING < 1285630150 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say, where the hell is the desktop stored? < 1285630230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ew, in a huge directory. < 1285630281 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: IE 2 STORES NO HISTORY AAAAA < 1285630307 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, unzip would be nice. < 1285630312 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I'm trying to do lynx.) < 1285630331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: My SINGLE REQUEST is that you unzip, tar up, and upload a single file. < 1285630335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or else. < 1285630355 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use netcat, lozor < 1285630421 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh come on :P < 1285630528 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tug.ctan.org (US) [FROZEN] < 1285630528 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftp.tex.ac.uk (UK) [FROZEN] < 1285630528 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftp.dante.de (Germany) [FROZEN] < 1285630529 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO SLOW < 1285630625 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. < 1285630627 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Password: foo@bar < 1285630628 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bite me. < 1285630670 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl they no longer carry it < 1285630682 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/tmp/ncmips.tar < 1285630695 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I don't want netcat, dood < 1285630703 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dooooooood < 1285630712 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well then SCREWWWWWWW YOUUUUUUUUUU < 1285630775 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"FUCK YOU NETCAT" < 1285630802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As of 2009, the latest sources and binaries for Zip, UnZip, WiZ and MacZip (including encryption code) are available at ftp.info-zip.org and Info-ZIP's SourceForge site. < 1285630802 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1285630819 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why do you need zip so much? < 1285630833 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To unpack the Lynx/Win32 sources. To compile them, y'see. < 1285630856 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So download them on your desktop, extract and tar them, then transfer them via netcat. < 1285630857 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Too simple to bother so much about. < 1285630865 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or hell, stick it on filebin.ca < 1285630873 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you're so netcat-incompetent. < 1285630880 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm too LAZY < 1285630933 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION looks for Info-Zip Win32 MIPS
< 1285630940 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ftp://ftp.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/win32/ PHAIL < 1285630960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : zip23xN-mip.zip WinNT (MIPS R4000) executables and docs (no encryption) < 1285630960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : zcr23xN-mip.zip WinNT (MIPS R4000) executables and docs (with encryption) < 1285630962 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :".zip" < 1285630968 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO PHAILURE < 1285630973 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO PHAILINGLY PHAILURE < 1285630981 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :526906 Aug 12 1997 unz531xN-mip.exe UnZip 5.31, NT MIPS exes/docs < 1285630982 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :approve < 1285631043 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Why is it that music is the only thing with a commonly-supported, reasonable metadata format? < 1285631145 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, why is it that pretty much all we've got for video playing is "pick file. It movie."? < 1285631210 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(whereas for most music players, that it's in a *file* is merely an implementation detail that sometimes gets shoved in your face) < 1285631210 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1285631226 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1285631519 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1285631555 0 :alise!~alise@91.105.65.44 JOIN :#esoteric < 1285631557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh thank god i thought my connection failed < 1285631595 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have a serious internet addiction < 1285631598 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://pastie.org/1185331.txt?key=mmcq0m8woxnooltgad4gpg < 1285631602 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: relevant to you < 1285631616 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the internet is just a so much better interface to the world than the world is :P < 1285631659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: actually a generic metadata-for-everything might not be such a terrible idea < 1285631662 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not xml-based, though < 1285631712 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: sorry the url is bad < 1285631738 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1285631739 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've got it < 1285631780 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: btw i blame you entirely. < 1285631812 0 :Kordalien!~chatzilla@adsl-71-141-89-187.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1285631814 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmmf. < 1285631848 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Mmmmf to what? Also, TOTALLY BLAMED < 1285631852 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is *less* sense in video not having reasonable metadata than, oh, anything else. < 1285631861 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except maybe music. That would be pain. < 1285631875 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1285631875 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: BLAMED < 1285631946 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq will never ask me what I blame him for. < 1285631973 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whyy is filebin broken