< 1286496003 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, uh, their policy that I now can't find was "we literally don't look at money at all when admitting, and then we promise you can attend if we accept you" < 1286496006 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah. < 1286496011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So a bad example to look at, then! < 1286496015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The others must be too ashamed to talk about it. < 1286496017 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, I wouldn't be installing it on the school's server < 1286496024 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'd be using the server as storage space < 1286496030 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And using FUSE (I think) to install here < 1286496033 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Harvard hands out free rides to people who can't afford to go to there. < 1286496041 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that is, everything paid for) < 1286496043 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: oh like um wow ok < 1286496049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's quite strange, that. < 1286496055 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Doesn't really gel with the elitism, does it? < 1286496056 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a 200mb file though < 1286496087 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Anyone who's accepted there is already sufficiently elite for them. < 1286496092 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Heh. < 1286496111 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Then Ivy League/MIT have a better system than the UK. < 1286496121 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Get into Oxford? ENJOY YOUR STUDENT LOAN'S CRIPPLING DEBT < 1286496128 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU WILL BE STUCK WITH IT FOREVER < 1286496136 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fellate the wonderful student loan company! They love you! < 1286496149 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Even if you're coming from absolutely nothing, it's still someone who's pretty damned smart & hardworking, and as such likely to be future elite. < 1286496168 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yeah, and Oxford's cheap by US standards. ;) < 1286496230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's probably cheaper to go to a European university. < 1286496243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But not quite as classy as being able to whip out your I-went-to-Oxford/Harvard card. < 1286496254 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You want infuriating, though? < 1286496260 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :US public school lunches. < 1286496277 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't want to know. I don't even want to know. Go on. < 1286496279 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fries & ketchup count as two servings of vegetables. < 1286496286 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1286496288 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's brilliant < 1286496292 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And as such, every lunch comes with them. < 1286496318 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you sent it to All Course Faculty, instead of me, so it placed your message in a different inbox." < 1286496322 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU ANGEL < 1286496330 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUCK YOU IN THE REAR END < 1286496335 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rear end? SRSLY < 1286496352 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deep fried, breaded cheese can count as a main course. (mozzarella cheese sticks) < 1286496368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: xD < 1286496379 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or (and this is very common) the world's greasiest, blandest pizza. < 1286496395 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daily. < 1286496436 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUSE is what I think it is, right? < 1286496462 0 :comex!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1286496492 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1286496527 0 :comex!comex@c-67-188-10-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286496537 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Oh, and fries covered with imitation American cheese food sauce! < 1286496551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOORJ < 1286496551 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... With imitation bacon-flavored bits! < 1286496556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1286496621 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, most of it comes with imitation cheese or very cheap cheese, because it comes effectively free. < 1286496627 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do all distros use FUSE these days? < 1286496642 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(as a farm support program, the government buys all excess cheese. Really.) < 1286496666 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: yes, for ntfs-3g. < 1286496668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more or less. < 1286496677 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: why is america < 1286496692 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And why does it mount by default under .gvfs? < 1286496701 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that an Ubuntu thing, a GNOME thing, or a FUSE thing? < 1286496707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: GNOME thing. < 1286496734 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What does KDE do? < 1286496754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: kde doesn't < 1286496756 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has kIO < 1286496757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and stuff < 1286496759 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kio < 1286496760 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1286496763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: it's also fuse < 1286496767 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's gnome's vfs fuse filesystem < 1286496786 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION prefers GNOME's way
< 1286496793 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1286496794 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait < 1286496798 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait < 1286496803 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KDE doesn't use FUSE? < 1286496841 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. < 1286496848 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, are you sure you understand either way? < 1286496850 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KDE's is superior. < 1286496856 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Can you explain fraternities to me? < 1286496858 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't get it. < 1286496877 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: No. < 1286496890 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But... but you see, I don't get it. < 1286496899 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't use what KDE does from the commandline, can I? < 1286496923 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Go on, try and use .gvfs from the command-line. < 1286496930 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, pretty sure there is some sort of command-line infrastructure for it. < 1286496940 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: No seriously fraternities, explain them. < 1286496942 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I'm about to < 1286496950 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As soon as this thing finishes uploading < 1286497000 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Uh, drunk bastards live in communal housing. < 1286497006 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: That's... About it. < 1286497036 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So, what, is there no communal housing without the drunk part? < 1286497038 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1286497075 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Oh, they also get really worked up about it, due to practices such as "selective membership" and "keeping secrets". < 1286497193 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: NOW EXPLAIN FREEMASONRY < 1286497275 0 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-13-234.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1286497280 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION attempts to run a program located in .gvfs
< 1286497304 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Seems to be working just fine < 1286497310 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit slow, really < 1286497410 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think i should design really small objective lang that would allow to write concurrent programs easily < 1286497421 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some kind of event driven shit < 1286497447 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking about my academic project for this semester < 1286497450 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: FREEMASONRY < 1286497451 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXPLAIN IT < 1286497471 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, does sftp allow access to random parts of a file? If not, how does FUSE simulate it < 1286497526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: by reading all of it. < 1286497539 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Repeatedly? < 1286497577 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, how much random reading would a typical Linux installer require? < 1286497582 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: alpha lambda iota sigma epsilon < 1286497598 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: whatever you're doing, just don't. < 1286497628 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Having some trouble killing it < 1286497685 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I appear to be unable to access my own filesystem < 1286497723 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Now explain why you have weird names for every year of high school. < 1286497804 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: EXPLAIN, AMERICA! Explain yourself! < 1286497810 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :America is on trial and YOU are its representative! < 1286498020 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Freshman sophomore junior senior? No clue. < 1286498054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: And then you... reuse freshman at college level. < 1286498054 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1286498059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because TERMINOLOGY SHOULDN'T BE USEFUL < 1286498078 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Freshman sophomore junior senior through college, as well. < 1286498103 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though freshman is cognate to UK "fresher"... < 1286498115 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, I got nothing. < 1286498139 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@128.198.97.22 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286498148 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Now freemasonry. < 1286498191 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: You first. < 1286498194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No? Alright then. Goodnight. < 1286498195 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bye. :P < 1286498198 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a UK organisation. < 1286498199 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1286498202 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That got exported. < 1286498316 0 :Sgeo!~ubuntu@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286498699 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1286498835 0 :augur_!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286498854 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1286498864 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1286498914 0 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286499222 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1286499667 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1286500407 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. A data: URI quine. < 1286500679 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can you use gzip or something in data: URI? < 1286500809 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data:application/x-gzip;base64, says yes < 1286500960 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nu omega omega gamma alpha < 1286500973 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cpressey < 1286501603 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286501614 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1286501990 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1286502320 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Then it should be possible to make... There's already gzip quine. < 1286502341 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr < 1286502345 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've lost weight < 1286502349 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :109.5lbs < 1286502354 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From 111 < 1286502368 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless the scale is off, or that's a normal range of variation < 1286502416 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You don't happen to drink full-fat milk? < 1286502428 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :..no, why? < 1286502451 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah... Because full fat milk isn't that great for weight gain... < 1286502460 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I'm pretty sure that's not an *atypical* range of variation. < 1286502482 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why don't you just eat a typical American diet? Y'know, deep-fried lard. < 1286502503 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I kind of signed up for this bone marrow donor thing a while ago.. < 1286502510 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And the limit is 110 < 1286502549 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/do3cw/thats_what_happens_when_your_cs_curriculum_is/c11n5f1 < 1286502553 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lard isn't great for weight gain either... Loads of carbohydrates and fats might work... < 1286502568 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: I'm being silly. < 1286502586 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially soft fats... < 1286503513 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mmmmmmmmm < 1286503513 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Soft fats < 1286503514 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I spread soft fats on toast for breakfast. < 1286503732 0 :antivigilante__!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Ex-Chat < 1286503778 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Even if I was 111lbs, would it be safe for me to be donating blood? < 1286503898 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, weight gain using "all means necressary" might not be healthy... < 1286504081 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know, like some people getting Diabetes type 2 (NASTY NASTY disease) without even being "overweight". < 1286504143 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it possible to lose diabetes type 2? < 1286504216 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe... Maybe not... < 1286504265 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and that's to "if it is possible at all"). Typically it will not be lost. < 1286504466 0 :cpressey!~catseye@adsl-99-94-155-109.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286504542 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1286504648 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its not even known what exactly causes diabetes type 2... < 1286504789 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Type 2 diabetes is essentially extreme intolerance to carbohydrates and inability to keep blood sugars (even fasting) in check. < 1286504812 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Due to very high levels of insulin resistance. < 1286505227 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: So, what, all we know is that there is a *correlation* between excess consumption of carbohydrates & type 2 diabetes? < 1286505265 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Its not carbohydrates per se. Nor it is fast carbohydrates per se... < 1286505301 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note that I'm just saying "correlation". < 1286505330 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which, as we all well know, says fuck-all about actual causes. < 1286505391 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had the impression it was something to do with the metabolization of carbohydrates. < 1286505409 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and/or sugars. < 1286505651 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess what I mean is we can say what "causes" it -- insulin is no longer doing what it's supposed to. < 1286505661 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What causes *that* is the mystery. < 1286505686 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just one more thing that medicine is completely in the dark about. < 1286506271 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286506814 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: #haskell is very active while #scheme is essentially dead. do you see any significance in this? < 1286507153 0 :wareya_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1286507198 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286507701 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286507768 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually its known bit further: Pancreas can no longer pump the amount of insulin required to keep blood sugars in check. And when that happens, things start getting downhill really fast. < 1286507811 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But what causes the extreme insulin resistance required... < 1286508087 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: yes. < 1286511062 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge9VfALthLI < 1286511241 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1286511265 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's an almost-surreal level of stupidity. < 1286511687 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we'll he was probably mentally retarded. it's not really surreal < 1286512316 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It no open push harder". < 1286512370 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It seems to me like if you're going to the basement, gravity's on your side anyway, so who needs the car? < 1286512405 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, that elevator door seems kinda flimsy. < 1286512442 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Granted, it's not like they *should* need to take someone ramming the door, but still... < 1286513066 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try harder! < 1286514499 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i watch this? perhaps this commentary and my imagination is quite enough < 1286515030 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's only 46 seconds, just watch it :P < 1286515042 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's so, so mind-boggling. < 1286515178 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dude i so do not remember my youtube login sigh < 1286515612 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ｱｲ ﾜﾝﾀﾞ ﾜｲ ｴﾆﾜﾝ ｴﾊﾞ ｻｳｯﾄ ｻﾞｯﾄ ﾊｰﾌ ｳｨｯｽ ｶﾀｶﾅ ﾜｽﾞ ｱ ｸﾞｰﾄﾞ ｱｲﾃﾞｨｱ｡ [ai wanntà wai eniwann ehà sau'to sà'to hâhu uī'su katakana wasù a k`ûtò aitèīa.](I wonder why anyone ever thought that half-width katakana was a good idea.) < 1286515749 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: ... you don't need to log in to YouTube to watch videos ... < 1286515789 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That one you do. < 1286515795 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it wanted to confirm i was >=18 years old < 1286515799 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for this, i had to log in < 1286515806 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1286515811 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's so weird :P < 1286515812 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because google is supergenuises < 1286515823 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not like it's pornographic, or even violent really ... < 1286515978 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: the youtube community HAS SPOKEN. < 1286516119 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yo-yo The infobox on this page makes me laugh. < 1286516704 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!~mzstorkip@adsl-99-94-155-109.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286516878 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzstorkipiwanbot: I'm waiting for anyone to say anything at all in #scheme. < 1286516879 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: That's wonderful for you! < 1286516902 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286517028 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!~mzstorkip@adsl-99-94-155-109.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286517036 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzstorkipiwanbot, are you a Hobbit? < 1286517037 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: That's wonderful for you! < 1286517054 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : mmmmkay < 1286517102 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oo, you've made it more positive. < 1286517128 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :far, far too much so < 1286517154 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it recognizes privmsgs and commas after its name now < 1286517248 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, someone said something in #scheme < 1286517326 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :23:51 < Riastradh> Boo! < 1286517570 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's a good language to rewrite it in? < 1286517579 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm thinking lua < 1286518285 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1286518326 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, lua patterns -- not so powerful (no captures) < 1286518336 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi oerjan < 1286518383 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'day < 1286518384 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no no i wrong there is captures yay < 1286518406 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC, they have captures, but are not full regular expressions. < 1286518511 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286518577 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. looks like you can't do kleene star (etc) on a group. only on a character class. < 1286518721 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1286518795 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:55:26 23:51 < Riastradh> Boo! < 1286518795 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:59:30 what's a good language to rewrite it in? < 1286518804 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those were in the wrong order, right? < 1286518815 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION whistles innocently
< 1286518880 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MNEH < 1286518907 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286518920 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION doesn't actually know Boo, but it has a good name
< 1286518938 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Something about duck typing and .NET is all I remember < 1286518973 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :statically typed said google's wp abstract < 1286518986 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION frowns
< 1286518994 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be static duck typed i guess < 1286518995 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(you note i didn't bother to actually click it :D) < 1286519005 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka "structural" < 1286519019 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(see: ocaml) < 1286519240 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was going to say ocaml < 1286519252 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but "structural" i have never heard of in that way < 1286519964 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!~mzstorkip@adsl-99-94-155-109.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286519970 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzstorkipiwanbot: hi! < 1286519970 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: That's wonderful for you! < 1286519980 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzstorkipiwanbot: what language are you written in now? < 1286519980 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: That's wonderful for you! < 1286519990 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lua! You don't say! < 1286519990 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: That's wonderful for you! < 1286519994 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoops. < 1286519994 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: That's wonderful for you! < 1286519995 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzstorkipiwanbot: I have cancer < 1286519995 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lament: That's wonderful for you! < 1286519998 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286520014 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like this bot < 1286520132 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has Genuine People Personalities < 1286520133 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!~mzstorkip@adsl-99-94-155-109.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286520145 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should not respond to me if I just say things < 1286520156 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzstorkipiwanbot, but you should respond to this < 1286520156 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: That's wonderful for you! < 1286520160 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzstorkipiwanbot! and this! < 1286520160 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: That's wonderful for you! < 1286520168 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not this mzstorkipiwanbot < 1286520200 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok wow. i am such an l33t c0d3r < 1286520214 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now let's see if it survives a ping < 1286520485 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286520502 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!~mzstorkip@adsl-99-94-155-109.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286520520 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so was that a no < 1286520527 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1286520537 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it didn't say ping timeout < 1286520546 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it did survive. then i killed it < 1286520558 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU MONSTER < 1286520573 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i made it better, faster, stronger, able to respond to privmsgs < 1286520586 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the six million drachma bot < 1286520925 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From the Gophernicus (Gopher server) README: "Gophertags: A gophertag file can be used to rename a directory without renaming the di... uh, confusing. Ask Cameron." < 1286520930 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's some quality documentation. < 1286520973 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cameron was of course last seen prepare to fly a small plane over the pacific < 1286520978 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*preparing < 1286521058 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ironically looking for amelia earhart < 1286521474 0 :tombom!~tombom@82.18.198.64 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286521474 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1286521474 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1286521690 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286522878 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1286524182 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 245 seconds < 1286524246 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1286524799 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1286524800 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1286524922 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.8/20100722155716] < 1286525657 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1286527332 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1286528186 0 :atrapado!~ro@193.144.79.241 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286528266 0 :augur_!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286528266 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1286528311 0 :augur_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur < 1286528574 0 :jix!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1286530667 0 :jix!~jix@tomakin.h-ix.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286532965 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi < 1286533721 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone got the latest version of vagrant < 1286535982 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1286536251 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.50.208 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286536867 0 :alise!~alise@91.105.114.37 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286536874 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Crimes... < 1286537084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :15:39:31 ST:V isn't bad < 1286537084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wrong < 1286537088 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right actually < 1286537090 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's terrible < 1286537364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:16:05 hi < 1286537364 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :02:28:41 anyone got the latest version of vagrant < 1286537365 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me. < 1286538253 0 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-24-72.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1286538311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 02:28:41 anyone got the latest version of vagrant < 1286538311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : me. < 1286538943 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: ^ presumably you want it? < 1286539899 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayyyybe < 1286540340 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The saying “I have got your back” almost never has the literal meaning of receipt or possession of another’s spine.]] --Wikipedia < 1286540397 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: do you have the new debug.py < 1286540399 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1286540496 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: < 1286540497 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/1207461.txt?key=sjdgc6ofjjhavzf6dhcwvg vagrant.py < 1286540499 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://pastie.org/1207462.txt?key=yb3txfhuiste4fydjs3eg debug.py < 1286540567 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: I think this *may* break on Python 2.7. < 1286540572 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it uses / for floor(x/y). < 1286540866 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait no it should work < 1286541951 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: BAH SO UNAPPRECIATIVE < 1286542400 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286542404 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi Phantom_Hoover. < 1286542423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hi. < 1286542446 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Alt. < 1286542462 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ctrl? < 1286542517 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Certainly. < 1286542545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things I saw today: A pretentious person nit-picking perfectly fine grammar on a self-avowed prescriptivist's about page. < 1286542660 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erm. < 1286542664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*descriptivist's < 1286542668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I always mix 'em up, I do. < 1286542892 0 :atrapado!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Abandonando < 1286542902 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did you actually watch that video? < 1286542910 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, goddammit! Stop mentioning t! < 1286542922 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION strangles Phantom_Hoover
< 1286542932 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION chokes.
< 1286542940 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION swatpans alise --==\#/
< 1286543038 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obviously I knocked him out. < 1286543050 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good lord, the writer of Megatokyo is over forty. It must take great skill to be that much of a 20-year-old shut-in for the purpose of making a terrible webcomic. < 1286543053 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. < 1286543057 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, I am knocked out. < 1286543060 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is horrible. < 1286543241 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1286543256 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone have a copy of this month's National Geographic to hand? < 1286543270 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No -- should I, and why? < 1286543274 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286543295 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like National Geographic's logo a lot. < 1286543334 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I presume you noticed llvm 2.8 is out btw? < 1286543337 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The yellow rectangle? < 1286543358 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't follow LLVM. Probably because I don't use it. < 1286543361 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes. < 1286543369 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, I thought you loved clang? < 1286543376 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's quite a strong brand identity, I feel. Also the proportions are nice. < 1286543389 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, "love" is a bit strong for anything to do with C -- or Unix -- but I like it, yes. < 1286543394 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gcc is still my go-to compiler out of laziness, however. < 1286543397 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1286543409 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, well yeah, same here < 1286543416 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The proportions are more or less standard A4, aren't they? < 1286543438 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Feel free to work it out. Anyway, I just like it because it's extremely simple and sticks in the mind. < 1286543459 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm indeed < 1286543528 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION installs Gimp.
< 1286543562 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahh, GIMP. It's utterly horrible and it's all you've got! < 1286543570 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep! < 1286543589 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fortunately, I only need to get approximate pixel counts. < 1286543596 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The GIMP developers need, like, an award for terrible UI design. < 1286543613 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't GTK directly lifted out of GIMP? < 1286543687 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "Sort of." < 1286543702 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've long known that the An series has the 1:sqrt(2) aspect ratio -- which is of course nice because of the fold-in-half property, 1/sqrt(2) = sqrt(2)/2 -- but I only recently realized that the absolute sizes have a logic in them, too: A0 has a surface area of one square metre. (Well, .0999949, but that's just because the edge lengths have been rounded to millimetres.) < 1286543703 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: When the GIMP started, they wrote all sorts of widgets and infrastructure to fit their needs. < 1286543713 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then they ripped GTK out of it, but I'm pretty sure it's been rewritten by now, what with 2.0 and all. < 1286543727 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/\.0/./ < 1286543736 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, that's exactly why it was used. < 1286543747 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yes, the An series is rather excessively mathematical. :) < 1286543763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The 1:sqrt(2) ratio isn't so aesthetically pleasing though, in my opinion. < 1286543772 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, A4 pieces of paper just look... slightly too long. < 1286543778 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It can be shown that the B series formats are geometric means between the A series format with a particular number and the A series format with one lower number. For example, B1 is the geometric mean between A1 and A0." Heh. < 1286543813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[In order to construct its interface GIMP uses the GIMP tool kit (GTK+). GTK+ was designed to replace Motif, a proprietary toolkit upon which GIMP depended. Originally GTK+ was a part of the GIMP source tree, but has since been made into a standalone library. While originally being designed to run on Unix-like operating systems, GIMP and GTK+ have been ported to Microsoft Windows, Mac OS X, and other operating systems.]] < 1286543820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: So GTK+ was always separate, in another directory, at least. It seems. < 1286543852 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The NG logo is about .04 out from a 1:root 2 ratio. < 1286543889 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Based on your downscaled pixel copy. < 1286543935 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The error isn't significant at all. < 1286543966 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since I wasn't using a particularly accurate method to get the pixel counts. < 1286544027 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1286544036 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now -- is it intentional? < 1286544054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Beastie wontedly carries a trident to symbolize a software daemon's forking of processes." < 1286544058 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh God, I never got that until now. < 1286544084 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*groan*, the BSD daemon isn't free either: < 1286544086 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The copyright of the BSD daemon is held by Marshall Kirk McKusick (a very early BSD developer who worked with Bill Joy). He has freely licensed the mascot for individual "personal use within the bounds of good taste (an example of bad taste was a picture of the BSD daemon blowtorching a Solaris logo)." Any use requires both a copyright notice and attribution.]] < 1286544260 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Double groan -- and then from the linked page "Devilette": < 1286544264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Devilette (also known as daemonbabe, daemonchick, daemoness, daemonette, and BSD chick) is a brunette woman garbed in a red latex catsuit with horns and a tail, stylized after the BSD Daemon. They are often spotted as promotional models at BSD-related events. The original BSD chick was Ceren Ercen of FreeBSD Test Labs, whose position there was "Strange Attractor".]] < 1286544268 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sexism? What's that? < 1286544837 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: i like you because you have nice breastesses < 1286544848 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Breast...esses. < 1286544878 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sentence is so flawed it needs a medal. Or a plaque, to warn others -- "On the 8th of October 2010, at this site, ..." < 1286545007 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: http://www.bishopston.com/jamie/misc/bsd-daemonette/bsd.jpg < 1286545010 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT HOT < 1286545016 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you see, the thing is < 1286545060 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :miffy wo-Men whip their twats out in an attempt to attract the desperates, therefore creating sexism < 1286545065 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're the actual source of it < 1286545069 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not the men. < 1286545088 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have absolutely no response. < 1286545326 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater: you do realise you just tried to explain the existence of sexism with absurd sexism? < 1286545464 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why is that absurd? < 1286545480 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, the New Scientist have interviewed Jon Richfield. < 1286545508 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION puts the troll on /ignore
< 1286545734 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ? < 1286545753 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares at alise real hard. :
< 1286545756 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1286545865 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION stares into the void real hard.
< 1286546003 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ? < 1286546011 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1286546127 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: not funny. < 1286546239 0 :alise_!~alise@91.105.99.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286546245 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fondant < 1286546266 0 :tombom!~tombom@wikipedia/Tombomp JOIN :#esoteric < 1286546280 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise_: stop being silly < 1286546289 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise_: are you mad at me or something? < 1286546305 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm restarting my client removed the ignore < 1286546307 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION fixes
< 1286546419 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1286546428 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mm, fondant. < 1286546441 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf < 1286546443 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION realises he doesn't know what fondant actually is.
< 1286546446 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that just made no sense what so ever < 1286546464 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now why is there a Jerry Falwell quote in my fortune DB? < 1286546473 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's that cake icing stuff. < 1286546673 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fondue fondant < 1286547184 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://adamcadre.ac/content/deviance.png < 1286547186 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deviant time zones. < 1286547274 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wha...? < 1286547299 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the legend. < 1286547306 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You know -- at the bottom. < 1286547317 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you suck, alise_. < 1286547421 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise_, that link redirects to http://a.imageshack.us/img714/3807/hotlinko.jpg < 1286547451 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Well, see the legend! < 1286547453 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://adamcadre.ac/misc.html < 1286547457 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Click "this". < 1286547533 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But why did it do that in the first place? < 1286547542 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :See the filename. < 1286547595 0 :alise_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise < 1286547714 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: stop being childish. you haven't even discussed this with me, and decided to clam up like a teenag... oh. < 1286547716 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still don't see why. < 1286547719 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::| < 1286547728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hotlinking. < 1286547730 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1286547734 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1286547783 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alas, poor HackEgo. < 1286547799 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I knew him, Horatio. < 1286547820 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I, too, can quote Shakespeare. < 1286547889 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< alise> Vorpal: I don't follow LLVM. Probably because I don't use it. <-- omg follow llvm on facebook < 1286547892 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1286547892 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1286547899 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1286547904 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LLVM has 34573589347534895793478934534539458345 fans. < 1286547912 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo hellp < 1286547914 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hellp < 1286547919 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote < 1286547923 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls < 1286547925 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't. but there is a llvm interest page. written in italian, for reasons not known to me. 32 people like it. < 1286547928 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :awklisp \ babies \ bin \ cube2.base64 \ cube2.jpg \ hack_gregor \ hello.txt \ help.txt \ huh \ netcat-0.7.1 \ netcat-0.7.1.tar.gz \ out.txt \ paste \ poetry.txt \ quotes \ qw.pl \ share \ tmpdir.11826 \ wunderbar_emporium < 1286547938 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`ls bin < 1286547939 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addquote \ calc \ commands \ creatures \ define \ esolang \ etymology \ fortune \ fuck \ google \ helpme \ imdb \ karma \ marco \ minifind \ paste \ penis \ ping \ quote \ rec \ roll \ runasperl \ runfor \ sayhi \ strfile \ swedish \ toutf8 \ translate \ translatefromto \ translateto \ twat \ unstr \ url \ vagina \ wolfram < 1286547942 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :93| oohhh ha heh and what are your other characteristics? oh, many, madbrain but it's hardly worth it to go on with listing that list here < 1286547947 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< alise> gcc is still my go-to compiler out of laziness, however. <-- i have switcht to pcc < 1286547969 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: haha, really? < 1286547978 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology etymology < 1286547998 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology entomology < 1286548050 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology rabies < 1286548071 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :entomology \ 1766, from Fr. entomologie (1764), coined from Gk. entomon "insect" + -logia "study of" (see -logy). Entomon is neut. of entomos "having a notch or cut (at the waist)," from en "in" (see en- (2)) + temnein "to cut" (see tome). So called by Aristotle in reference to the segmented division of insect bodies. Compare < 1286548071 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rabies \ 1590s, from L. rabies "madness, rage, fury," related to rabere "be mad, rave" (see rage). Sense of "madness in dogs" was a secondary meaning in Latin. \ \ rage (n.) \ c.1300, from O.Fr. raige (11c.), from M.L. rabia, from L. rabies "madness, rage, fury," related to rabere "be mad, rave." Related to rabies, of < 1286548071 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etymology \ late 14c., ethimolegia "facts of the origin and development of a word," from O.Fr. et(h)imologie (14c., Mod.Fr. �tymologie), from L. etymologia, from Gk. etymologia, properly "study of the true sense of a word," from etymon "true sense" (neut. of etymos "true," related to eteos "true") + logos "word." In classical < 1286548094 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology childish < 1286548096 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :childish \ O.E. cildisc "proper to a child," from child + -ish. Meaning "puerile, immature, like a child" in a bad sense is from early 15c. Related: Childishness. \ \ ma \ 1823, childish or colloquial shortening of mamma. \ \ gran \ childish abbreviation of grandmother, 1863. \ \ peepee \ 1923, childish reduplication < 1286548109 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology clammed up < 1286548111 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1286548120 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`cat bin/etymology < 1286548128 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology egocentric < 1286548131 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#!/bin/bash \ if [ ! "$1" ] \ then \ echo 'Look up what?' \ exit 1 \ fi \ \ QUERY=`echo -n "$1" | od -t x1 -A n -w1000 | tr " " %` \ \ lynx --cfg=/dev/null --lss=/dev/null \ \ --dump --width=1000 'http://etymonline.com/?search='"$QUERY" | \ grep -A 100 ']'"$1" | \ sed 's/\[[0-9]*\]//g ; s/ Look up.*// ; s/ */ /g' < 1286548143 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :egocentric \ 1900, from ego + -centric. Related: Egocentricity; egocentrism. \ \ \ * Introduction and abbreviations \ * Who did this? \ * Sources \ * Links \ \ * � 2001-2010 Douglas Harper \ * Logo design by LogoBee.com \ * Page design and coding by Dan McCormack \ \ References \ \ 1. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php < 1286548154 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology egocentrism < 1286548156 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1286548165 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology egocentricity < 1286548172 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1286548172 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology selfish < 1286548176 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :selfish \ 1630s, from self + -ish. Said in Hacket's life of Archbishop Williams (1693) to have been coined by Presbyterians. In the 17c., synonyms included self-seeking (1620s), self-ended and self-ful. \ \ Let us understand what our own selfish genes are up to, because we may then at least have the chance to upset their < 1286548183 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology infantile < 1286548186 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infantile \ 1690s, "pertaining to infants," from L. infantilis, from infans (see infant). Sense of "infant-like" is from 1772. \ \ ta \ 1772, "natural infantile sound of gratitude" [Weekley]. \ \ tummy \ 1867, infantile for stomach. Tummy-ache is attested from 1926. \ \ poliomyelitis \ 1878, from Gk. polios < 1286548191 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: for my own stuff, yes. obv there is not a lot "out there" that i can get to compile with it < 1286548221 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology infantry < 1286548223 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infantry \ 1570s, from Fr. infantrie, from older It., Sp. infanteria "foot soldiers, force composed of those too inexperienced or low in rank for cavalry," from infante "foot soldier," originally "a youth," from L. infantem (see infant). \ \ zouave \ 1848, from Fr., from Arabic Zwawa, from Berber Igawawaen, name of a < 1286548246 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: hmm, i thought pcc had pretty good compatibility < 1286548249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any examples of failure? < 1286548273 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it's more to the effect of makefiles written with gcc specifically in mind. also i'm lazy < 1286548292 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*makefiles and such < 1286548380 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: have you played VAGRANT yet? < 1286548396 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology bipolar < 1286548398 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bipolar \ "having two poles," from bi- + polar; 1810 with figurative sense of "of double aspect;" 1859 with reference to physiology. Psychiatric use in reference to what had been called manic-depressive psychosis is said to have begun 1957 with Ger. psychiatrist Karl Leonhard. The term became popular early 1990s. Bipolar disorder < 1286548406 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no. i will tonight if the latest copy is conspicuously posted to a pastbin somewhere. < 1286548419 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i spent last night rewriting mzstorkipiwanbot in lua < 1286548425 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not all night obv < 1286548437 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: paste it now or later? < 1286548449 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: now unless you plan awesome upgrades today < 1286548459 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, i am working on it < 1286548467 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: it sort of lacks monster AI right now, but you can see how long you can survive and stuff < 1286548474 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and rack up cash < 1286548526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's currently 1600 bytes plus an ending newline. < 1286548538 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which isn't required, I just have it in there; I'll remove it, I guess) < 1286548553 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, emacs doesn't let me :) < 1286548684 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology silly < 1286548686 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :silly \ O.E. ges�lig "happy" (related to s�l "happiness"), from W.Gmc. *s�ligas (cf. O.N. s�ll "happy," Goth. sels "good, kindhearted," O.S. salig, M.Du. salich, O.H.G. salig, Ger. selig "blessed, happy, blissful"), from PIE base *sel- "happy" (cf. Gk. hilaros "gay, cheerful," L. solari "to comfort," salvus "whole, safe"). The < 1286548695 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1286548786 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You know Mario Kart is practically designed to let the worse player win, right?" < 1286548788 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO NO NO DON'T SAY THAT < 1286548841 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology hateful < 1286548843 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hateful \ late 14c., from hate + -ful. \ \ loath \ O.E. la� "hostile, repulsive," from P.Gmc. *laithaz (cf. O.Fris. leed, O.N. lei�r "hateful, hostile, loathed;" M.Du. lelijc, Du. leelijk "ugly;" O.H.G. leid "sorrowful, hateful, offensive, grievous," Ger. Leid "sorrow;" Fr. laid "ugly," from Frankish *laid). Weakened < 1286548855 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology hostile < 1286548866 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology unfair < 1286548869 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hostile \ late 15c., from M.Fr. hostile "of or belonging to an enemy," from L. hostilis, from hostis "enemy" (see guest). The noun meaning "hostile person" is recorded from 1838, Amer.Eng., a word from the Indian Wars. \ \ foe \ O.E. gefa "adversary in deadly feud," from fah "at feud, hostile," from P.Gmc. *fakhaz < 1286548869 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfair \ O.E. unf�gr "unlovely," from un- (1) "not" + fair. Cf. O.N. ufagr, Goth. unfagrs. Meaning "wicked, evil, bad" is recorded from c.1300. Sense of "not equitable, unjust" is first recorded 1713. \ \ unequal \ 1530s, "unjust, unfair," from un- (1) "not" + equal. Meaning "not the same in amount, size, quality, etc." is recorded < 1286548901 0 :cheater!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`etymology trustunworthy < 1286548908 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1286548969 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1286549073 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION writes AI super-verbosely to reduce later
< 1286549561 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, they follow me now. < 1286549563 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unrealistically, but... < 1286549569 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Quick, propose a crazy HP system. < 1286549647 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: ...I have a crazy one, if you're dry for ideas. < 1286549779 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1286549782 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am < 1286549794 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :atleastforthat < 1286549849 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Here's a clue (well -- giveaway) as to how my method works: < 1286549864 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :To decode the HP from the character value in the field, you do int(1/.(x-81))-1 < 1286549870 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>:) < 1286549877 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1286549939 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl29-2-0-cust326.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286549974 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: and to give the rest away, to encode the HP, add 1/(hp+1) to the character value. < 1286549978 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so 2 hp = 81.5 < 1286549987 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1286549988 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 hp < 1286549989 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := 81.5 < 1286549994 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :123 hp = 81.008064516129039 < 1286549995 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or thereabouts < 1286550309 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1286550358 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hp for monsters,81=Q, i get that much < 1286550368 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless 81 is not Q < 1286550372 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems hi < 1286550386 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it is < 1286550423 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it might be more fair to say DICE C is my go-to compiler these days :D < 1286550443 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: 81 is Q, yeah < 1286550447 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but storing hp in the actual character grid < 1286550451 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is done with this method < 1286550454 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then D() just does int(cell) < 1286550456 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so that they all show as Q < 1286550458 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1286550462 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is just my current plan < 1286550462 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1286550468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not entirely serious < 1286550475 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here i thought beefier monsters would be R, S, T... < 1286550637 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: ooh, that's almost an amazing idea < 1286550660 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: but it's TOO PRECISE, it doesn't have float rounding quirks! < 1286550739 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Float rounding quarks! < 1286551039 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286551153 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1286551714 0 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286551791 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snorlid < 1286551947 0 :cpressey_!~CPressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286551962 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_ sees all the presseys < 1286551994 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Scaling Everest was, by far, the most amazing and transformative experience of my life. Unfortunately, this is a thesis on context-free grammars. " < 1286552011 0 :nooga!~nooga@maverick.aircity.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1286552032 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you guys know any mechanical CADs for linux? < 1286552039 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ... lawl. < 1286552190 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes :) < 1286552206 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: (It's from the Little Lytton contest.) < 1286552212 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Lyttle < 1286552221 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The king of ketchups was being dethroned, and I wanted an explanation. " < 1286552228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ais523 wrote: < 1286552228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> the truth of the condition, the only conclusion is that it's undecidable < 1286552228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> whether or not alise managed to become inactive; unlike, say, < 1286552228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> registration where there's a requirement to be reasonably unambiguous, < 1286552228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who's alise?]] --Ed Murphy, Agora < 1286552289 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wha? < 1286552323 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Anamaria had already gotten up obviously because there was no Anamaria in Anamaria’s bed. " < 1286552341 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "Wha?"? < 1286552358 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did you paste that email? < 1286552360 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Today we are randomly quoting stuff" < 1286552362 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was the context? < 1286552423 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the context was given in the email! < 1286552481 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is ais going on about? < 1286552516 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a scam < 1286552541 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Dr. Metzger turned to greet his new patient, blithely unaware he would soon become a member of a secret brotherhood as old as urology itself.]] < 1286552554 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Sophi broke down in tears, like a diesel car that had run out of petrol. " < 1286552564 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shmortz < 1286552664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"His eyes were brown, although you wouldn't know it just by looking." < 1286552759 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Under Bob’s fez was another. " < 1286553076 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" * There is simply no scientific or mathematical formula that defines conservatism." < 1286553092 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The sad part is that that's from a real bestseller. < 1286553288 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"What I like about the second one is not the content but rather the way the reader has to suddenly recast what seemed like simple narration as the thoughts of a character who is for some reason thinking in the narrative pluperfect." < 1286553478 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was that one, again? < 1286553513 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"This raises the question of how often Asian-Americans who themselves have Anglo names decide to play up the ethnic heritage angle. Like, if Matt and Lisa Sullivan of Somerville can stick their kid with something like Siobhan, do Tim and Amy Lee of Sunnyvale ever say, "Fuck it — we're going with Huang"? " < 1286553629 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1286553736 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The meteor formed a crater, vampires crawling out of the crater. " < 1286553753 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "Bill's goiter had burst and it was on my head, Mary thought quietly." was it < 1286553764 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, that was it. < 1286553902 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The door dilated[1]. < 1286553903 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[1]This is in the future, when doors dilate instead of opening the way they do now. < 1286554011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It clawed its way out of Katie, bit through the cord and started clearing." < 1286554041 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Tuesday. Africa. Lion o’clock. " < 1286554110 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Ah, poetic Paris: with its pâtés and beaujolais, tiramisu and au jus.]] < 1286554120 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't stop laughing < 1286554160 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The ship sliced through the ocean like wood through water. < 1286554174 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" The saying “I have got your back” almost never has the literal meaning of receipt or possession of another’s spine. " ← Wikipedia strikes back! < 1286554249 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MacGyver had grown old. < 1286554282 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :“What a horrible future we live in!” said FutureMax! < 1286554303 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" *((Gotta put First Things First))* " — Sarah Palin < 1286554307 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The flowers in the meadow grew slowly, as did my erection." < 1286554308 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HEY GUYS < 1286554312 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE'RE READING THE LYTTLE LYTTON RESULTS < 1286554315 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISN'T THAT QUOTABLE < 1286554352 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-6-206.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286554437 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fukutsuru died in 2005 but his frozen sperm lived on for people’s benefit. < 1286554442 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ this is the all-time winner, from Wikipedia < 1286554493 0 :lament!~lament@S0106002312fa554a.vc.shawcable.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286554498 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alternate version of that: "Fukutsuru died in 2005 but he lives on through the continued use of his frozen sperm." < 1286554509 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fukutsuru is survived by his frozen sperm. < 1286554568 0 :cpressey_!~CPressey@173-9-215-173-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286554660 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1286554743 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything leaks memory < 1286554746 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everything < 1286554758 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is unavoidable in some greater, pseudo-philosophical sense < 1286554761 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aka second law of thermodynamics < 1286554780 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :prit' near < 1286554812 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a good justification for sloppy coding < 1286554887 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one among many < 1286554920 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the number one justification is still "who cares, it will save us tens of thousands of dollars", i think < 1286554997 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second law of thermodynamics is a good justification for sloppy coding. < 1286555002 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I seeeeee... < 1286555023 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor has cpressey_ on ignore < 1286555178 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or he has collapse-aka turned on in his reasoning module < 1286555217 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I am reminded of an NNTP header I saw on usenet once a long time ago < 1286555231 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Organization: None (why fight entropy?) < 1286555240 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh < 1286555322 0 :zeotrope!~vib@bas3-kitchener06-1096641690.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1286555322 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I love the vision of an AI opening his Preferences dialogue and turning on all these silly options. < 1286555329 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :patience-level [====[ ]========] < 1286555338 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ] use-contractions < 1286555368 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*image, not vision < 1286555373 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286555556 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ ] appreciate music and poetry < 1286555564 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if blind people have auditions instead of visions
< 1286555591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NO ROBOST DO NOT USE SPACSE < 1286555596 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BECAUSE COMPUTERS OND'T < 1286555611 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could not have spelled "don't" more incorrectly. < 1286555636 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an evil spelling if you know your norwegian < 1286555734 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: O'NTD say you couldn't have spelled "don't" more incorrectly. < 1286555858 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Huh? I y5'pw think so. < 1286555882 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :eiorjt5 < 1286556124 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Things in Hungary soptne look good... < 1286556177 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your fjosdijg. < 1286556210 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wha? < 1286556355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\mfndfklgm. < 1286556398 0 :lament!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1286556497 0 :yorick!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1286556525 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: help < 1286556525 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: i mean, there are alot of scheme documents including tutorials here: http://www.schemers.org/ documents/ standards/ r5rs/ html/ mzlib/ mzlib-z-h-40.htmlnode_chap_40 < 1286556550 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: help < 1286556558 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo: help < 1286556578 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mzstorkipiwanbot: help < 1286556579 0 :mzstorkipiwanbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: That's wonderful for you! < 1286557038 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders if the helium shortage will result in the moon landings being taken seriously again.
< 1286557048 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style < 1286557048 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Available: agora alice c64 ct darwin discworld europarl ff7 fisher ic irc* jargon lovecraft nethack pa speeches ss wp youtube < 1286557057 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No. < 1286557064 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1286557074 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unmanned probes? < 1286557079 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...ah. i guess norway can scratch that new trade deal we trying to get with china. < 1286557088 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*we were < 1286557111 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: :D < 1286557116 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love how it's we < 1286557121 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like you're all part of the government < 1286557123 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and share in the spoils < 1286557289 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So wait, what are the alternative helium supplies? < 1286557297 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FUSION < 1286557302 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FISSION < 1286557305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fiss it < 1286557331 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :atmosphere probably has some, even if it leaks < 1286557345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :recycle the balloons < 1286557345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1286557346 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just more expensive to extract < 1286557358 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"you don't own the balloon, you just rent it out" < 1286557375 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: the problem with that is that balloons leak helium too. < 1286557395 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :myndzi < 1286557415 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :besides half the fun with helium balloons is making helium voices < 1286557429 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHUSH < 1286557437 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, just use hydrogen. < 1286557439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a joke < 1286557444 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: omg i just realised that i've never inhaled helium < 1286557453 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seconds later, i realise that i'm probably too scared to < 1286557456 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not sure i have either, actually < 1286557488 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have. < 1286557492 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although not much. < 1286557521 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fun fact: Joe Pasquale actually inhaled an entire tank of helium as a child. < 1286557531 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And when it runs out... < 1286557613 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why would there be more helium on the moon than earth, anyway? it's not like the moon keeps it any better. < 1286557632 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not Sure™. < 1286557644 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without an atmosphere to speak of at all < 1286557669 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I could Google. < 1286557704 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it's made of cheese, and we all know what a main component of cheese is... < 1286557714 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The abundance of helium-3 is thought to be greater on the Moon (embedded in the upper layer of regolith by the solar wind over billions of years) and the solar system's gas giants (left over from the original solar nebula)" < 1286557736 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also about fusion - last time i saw a discussion someone pointed out that to get enough helium from fusion we would have to increase energy consumption a _lot_ < 1286557742 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could always synthesise helium with a load of alpha sources. < 1286557745 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(on reddit) < 1286557747 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thisisindexed.com/ needs more plotlines. < 1286557753 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that would be terribly inefficient. < 1286557754 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: FYOO ZHUN < 1286557758 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: CAN WE NOT JOKE < 1286557765 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: that's helium-3, the less common isotope iirc < 1286557795 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes, but later in that sentence it says the He-4 concentration is ~28ppm. < 1286557795 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: YOU DON'T JOKE ABOUT SCIENCE < 1286557806 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://fakescience.tumblr.com/ < 1286557809 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :relevant, somehow < 1286557852 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: hm yeah i guess if there is a process to get it into the moon rock faster than it leaks out < 1286557853 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want Vorpal to contribute to this discussion < 1286557861 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: i really don't < 1286557897 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: how about ancient Chinese sage Fu Zhun? < 1286557904 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beats Vorpal < 1286557905 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well, the helium is being smashed straight into the rocks, rather than having to go through an atmosphere. < 1286557925 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1286557944 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286557970 0 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286557984 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286558005 0 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286558023 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, L'oeuvre of the Louvre. < 1286558250 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.rainerspehl.com/IEproject.php?nr=59 WOODEN LAPTOP CASE < 1286558398 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the kolakoski sequence leaks memory. < 1286558444 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the kolakoski sequence is part of number theory. therefore number theory leaks memory < 1286558482 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well in a sense every non-repeating sequence leaks memory < 1286558507 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since you need arbitrary large memory to generate it < 1286558545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolakoski_sequence < 1286558546 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible < 1286558547 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrible < 1286558548 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :article < 1286558726 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: if a sequence is non-repeting, you need arbitrarily much storage; if you need arbitrarily much storage to generate it, your sequence must be non-repeating < 1286558751 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :equivalent, unless my eyes deceive me! < 1286558759 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or whatever part of my body it is that does that < 1286558797 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but have we proved that kolakoski is non-repeating? ... i don't recall < 1286558814 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd eat my hat if it wasn't < 1286558857 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :note to self: go into the business of selling edible hats, for saving of face < 1286558955 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any computable sequence with known repeat is obiviously generatable with finite storage. < 1286559106 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286559134 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, hallu is so awesome in Vagrant. < 1286559155 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: does nethack ever generate impossible characters in hallu? < 1286559160 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like an unused symbol? < 1286559164 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yews < 1286559165 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*yes < 1286559172 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least, it generates unused symbol/color combos < 1286559182 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think it generates a comma, which is the only printable ASCII character that isn't used for anything < 1286559194 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, what about 0? < 1286559198 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people use that for boulders < 1286559199 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what else is it? < 1286559296 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Moria for the Amiga came with a graphical Moria font. A bit gratuitous, but hallucination while using it was pretty awesome. < 1286559299 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iron balls < 1286559306 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boulders are by default ` < 1286559310 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286559312 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but people change them to 0 to make them easier to see < 1286559317 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1286559322 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never seen iron balls :P < 1286559326 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and iron balls are dark cyan compared to a boulder's grey, so you can't muddle them) < 1286559334 0 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286559350 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't realize cyan came in a dark but i suppose it does < 1286559383 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all colors come in a dark, except black and arguably white < 1286559407 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dark cyan, i.e. blue < 1286559413 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1286559416 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yeah, yeah, i know) < 1286559428 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: dark white is just gery < 1286559430 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*grey < 1286559431 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you can get the iron ball by annoying your god in NetHack. < 1286559433 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1286559437 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just think of it under another name i think. like aquamarine < 1286559439 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: cyan is not a light blue < 1286559439 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gray > or >= #888, say < 1286559445 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, i know, i was joking < 1286559448 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is one of the things that irritates me disproportionately < 1286559455 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, I'm some sort of Cyan Rights Crusader < 1286559462 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cyan is not blue! cyan is not green! < 1286559465 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1286559467 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it possible to have overgrown fingernails? < 1286559470 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ingrown < 1286559487 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think so; fingers are a different shape < 1286559499 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the position for a nail which is ingrown for a toenail is correct for a fingernail < 1286559506 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm... Are there nonrepeating sequences that take o(log N) memory to generate, where N is number of terms to generate? < 1286559579 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: yes < 1286559592 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01001000100001... < 1286559751 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The string length seems to grow quadrically with counter, which in turn takes O(log N) bits to store, thus it would be O(log sqrt(N)) = O(log N) which is not o(log N). < 1286559818 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: I mixed up o and O. < 1286559837 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o(O(log N)) < 1286559844 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, Microsoft are discussing buying Adobe? < 1286559846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what? < 1286559856 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: I imagine kolakoski takes o(log N) but have no way of showing that. < 1286559860 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(potential worry: Flash and Silverlight with the same owner) < 1286559889 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft owns Flash? < 1286559895 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, but Adobe do. < 1286559895 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well whatever < 1286559900 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right < 1286559907 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Silverlight is the MSFT thing < 1286559912 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that no one cares about < 1286559914 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(well, I don't) < 1286559920 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will have to compete against them with, umm, HTML5? < 1286559926 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Then Intel will buy Microsoft. The entire software industry will be one gigantic matryoshka doll! < 1286559927 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least Keränen sequence actually takes theta(log N) memory to generate (like any self-expanding sequence)... < 1286559943 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SUNTELSOFT < 1286559949 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: intel buying Microsoft is something that seems really implausible < 1286559957 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Buy me Microsoft." "Sir, the last time you gave an order like that, we ended up acquiring--" "Worked, didn't it?" < 1286559962 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, you could get more layers with McAfee buying Microsoft... < 1286559980 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: *that* is the least implausible thing ever though < 1286559990 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the reverse is more likely, but that'd require Microsoft *acquiring Intel* < 1286559992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is ludicrous < 1286560003 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apple just bought Verizon < 1286560004 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then Apple can buy AMD < 1286560011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait < 1286560012 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: reallly? < 1286560015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft are richer than Intel < 1286560017 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I never quite realised < 1286560019 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
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< 1286560036 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft will never buy anybody big though < 1286560039 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after that antitrust < 1286560043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happened to the resolution of that? < 1286560045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they might if they were unrelated < 1286560046 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like they're back to normal < 1286560049 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :weren't they meant to be split up? < 1286560050 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Microsoft buying General Motors, or whatever < 1286560055 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: what happened was that Bush came into power < 1286560057 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I approve < 1286560060 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of Microsoft buying GM) < 1286560061 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just wanted to throw a different vertical into the mix < 1286560064 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and effectively gave them some sort of presidential pardon < 1286560069 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think just by leaning on the courts < 1286560071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Ooh, how overtly political for you! Ahem. Anyway. < 1286560078 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :("For", not "of".) < 1286560081 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286560092 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: hey, I'm overtly political, but only when people ask me a direct question about it < 1286560103 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: WHAT ARE YOUR OPINIONS ON POLITICS < 1286560108 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[ais523 composes a five-page reply.] < 1286560111 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1286560121 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I approve of the current government, for the time being < 1286560126 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in the UK, that is) < 1286560129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really? < 1286560131 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yep < 1286560143 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so, the tories then < 1286560147 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was terrified that the Conservatives would get into power, but the coalition doesn't seem to have done anything too bad yet < 1286560155 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If you say "also the Lib Dems", I will probably shoot you.) < 1286560160 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I disagreed with much of the conservative manifesto, but they haven't tried to use those bits yet) < 1286560162 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the conservatives are in power! < 1286560169 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're just being pulled slightly by the lib dems < 1286560196 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree with the huge cuts in public spending that are needed to try to solve some of the national debt < 1286560207 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm upset they didn't raise taxes more at the same time < 1286560222 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yes, I know; more than slightly, actually < 1286560225 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember the last time just cutting spending actually solved anything. < 1286560235 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, it helps to solve a lack of money < 1286560258 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think, wouldn't you? Economics is the only science based on something almost, but not entirely like logic. < 1286560263 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would have voted Liberal at the last election, if I was in the correct country at the time and there hadn't been a mixup around arranging a proxy vote < 1286560266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*unlike < 1286560271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that did not work without that correction. < 1286560275 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*entirely, < 1286560301 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Of course you can for numbers like the Champernowne constant, for obvious reasons, but I've been thinking lately: is it even possible to prove normality (for any base) for numbers like e and pi? What about disproving it? It seems like such a concept that is unrelated to real mathematics (don't know how to phrase what I mean by that), and just seems impossible to prove. Any general thoughts about this?" --xkcd forum, displaying intense intelligence < 1286560311 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although the seat I vote in is safe Labour, with Conservatives easily second) < 1286560315 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder why he thinks it's so "unreal". < 1286560315 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(so it really doesn't matter which way I vote) < 1286560320 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps because you can't enumerate all of pi's digits? < 1286560340 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the Tories actually ousted the Lib Dems in Oxford, strangely enoguh < 1286560341 0 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.32 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286560341 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*enough < 1286560344 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :despite it being a safe lib dem seat < 1286560346 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he/she means it doesn't have any obvious practical applications < 1286560352 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I forget *which* Oxford) < 1286560377 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Universities are generally so strongly Labour, it's frightening < 1286560385 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think all my friends here are Labour voters, or at least most of them < 1286560398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oxford West and Abingdon < 1286560405 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I tend to disagree with people who vote for parties without actually checking their manifestos...) < 1286560408 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that's the one without the University but with everything else < 1286560411 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, a minority of colleges are inside it < 1286560434 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on they MP they replaced: < 1286560436 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[A Daily Mail article published on October 31, 2007 highlighted Harris' positions on social issues, castigating him as 'Dr. Death' for his "views on abortion, voluntary euthanasia, immigration and gay rights". The 'Dr. Death' term was subsequently used on numerous occasions, generally by Christian conservatives, in criticising Harris, including articles by Damian Thompson[20], Cristina Odone [21] and Nadine Dorries.]] < 1286560448 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't get much of a better compliment than the Daily Mail calling you Dr. Death < 1286560455 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the Daily Mail < 1286560458 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :precisely < 1286560461 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its only job is to reflect the opinions of uninformed people < 1286560462 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wasn't being sarcastic < 1286560469 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Reflect? No -- create. < 1286560472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order that they buy it in order to confirm their own opinions < 1286560491 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I think it wouldn't sell so well if it ran contrary to existing opinions on the matter < 1286560493 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reflreate < 1286560508 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. if it said that, say, mobile phone masts were harmless, none of its readership would believe it < 1286560509 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, the general "philosophy" -- as much as it exists -- is a reflection < 1286560516 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but in the individual instances, it influencse < 1286560518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*influences < 1286560532 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like a tuning fork < 1286560547 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I'm sure someone who thinks "immigrants takin oor jobbs" and reads the Daily Mail gets an awful lot of their opinions from it. < 1286560600 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :close-minded -- drops the "d" after close, presumably using the "-ed" to replace it; discuss < 1286560696 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1286560960 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: I bet the digits of a Chaitin's Omega require o(log n) storage. I could even venture o(n), from what I understand. < 1286560991 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, maybe there are sequences that require o(log N) memory to generate. In practicular if there are superpolynomial functions f(n) that can be computed with log(f(n)) memory. < 1286561146 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And those functions are subexponential. < 1286561319 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"normality (for any base)" -- wtf does this mean? < 1286561349 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_, same average digit count. < 1286561366 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: normality in a number is that each digit has an equal chance of occurring in the first n digits of its decimal expansion, in the limit for n < 1286561380 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Devils! Artichokes! A burning feeling that you're where you should be! < 1286561386 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All these have DIGITS in common. < 1286561412 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quickly: pick a random number between one and infinity. < 1286561435 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g_A(G,G) < 1286561456 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quickly: pick a random number between one and infinity. < 1286561464 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if i pick it it won't be random anymore < 1286561512 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but if you establish normality for one base, doesn't that imply normality in all bases? < 1286561535 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with a possible exception for unary < 1286561541 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unary, the freak base < 1286561578 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderfuck ACTUAL ARTICLE < 1286561590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: does it? why? < 1286561602 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, unary isn't a (positional) base < 1286561603 0 :Sgeo!~ubuntu@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1286561625 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: 4 < 1286561626 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it feels like it should < 1286561638 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this was actually randomly selected via a program that could select any number from 1 to infinity < 1286561639 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: In Soviet Russia, gender fuck YOUUUUUUU < 1286561644 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not with an equal probability of each < 1286561648 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: there ex- right. < 1286561668 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ais523: BTW, number does not mean integer. < 1286561680 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, right < 1286561694 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: to be precise, I was generating cryptosecure nybbles (with /dev/random as an entropy source) using ssl rand, then counting the number before the first 0 < 1286561696 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, but it *could*. < 1286561719 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"mean" < 1286561744 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in Perl, rand(1) X 1 -- X := < or X := <=, which is true? < 1286561749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what a confusing way of putting it < 1286561754 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: in Perl, can rand(1) ever == 1? < 1286561762 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1286561768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's from 0 up to but not including 1 < 1286561799 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, then how does one write one that includes 1? < 1286561815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without relying on float stuff? < 1286561832 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my $x=2; $x = rand(2) while $x > 1; < 1286561848 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that gets the probabilities rigth < 1286561849 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*right < 1286561858 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes. < 1286561863 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :without having to mess with float deltas or anything like that < 1286561871 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0 to 1 inclusive isn't all that useful a range to randomize in, though < 1286561880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :normally, you're doing int(rand(n)) to get a random integer from 0 to n-1 < 1286561886 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, why yikes? < 1286561896 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :from mersenne import twister < 1286561942 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was scary at first < 1286561950 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmmmm < 1286561957 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but looks sensible now? < 1286561961 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1286561979 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you could "reinterpret_cast" in Perl, you could just reinterpret_cast 1.0 to an integer of the same size, add 1, and reinterpret_cast back, then pass that to rand() :P < 1286562037 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You can do much crazier casting than *that* in Perl. < 1286562063 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could read from /dev/random < 1286562069 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Presuming, of course, that you're fine with blessing values. < 1286562082 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHICH I AM NOT < 1286562086 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not tolerate blessing. < 1286562091 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: reinterpret_cast doesn't really make much sense in that context < 1286562102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :given that Perl scalars have a string and a numeric value which need not be correlated < 1286562142 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Most things don't make sense in the context of Perl. < 1286562148 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Perl sucks all logic and reason out of the universe. < 1286562154 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It is The Beast. < 1286562210 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- says Gregor, who just talked about C++. < 1286562251 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reinterpret_cast was easier to say than (*((long long *) &var))++ < 1286562253 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reinterpret_perl(C++) < 1286562254 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[Breast fetishism (also known as mastofact, breast partialism, or mazophilia)[1] is a type of sexual fetish which involves a sexual interest in female breasts.] --Wikipedia < 1286562257 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*]] < 1286562266 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vagina fetishism is a type of sexual fetish which involves ... < 1286562277 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Suuuure. < 1286562290 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ perl -e '$! = 18; print $!,$/' < 1286562291 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Invalid cross-device link < 1286562298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ...what < 1286562305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1286562308 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the error message < 1286562310 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in this case, $! simultaneously has the values 18 and "Invalid cross-device link" < 1286562312 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< ais523> given that Perl scalars have a string and a numeric value which need not be correlated <-- i learn something new every day < 1286562329 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: New and horrifying. < 1286562330 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: hmm, how does one automatically set one based on the other? < 1286562337 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or can only perl(1) do that? < 1286562355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@dinky:~/Code/vagrant$ perl -e '$! = (0..10); print $!,$/' < 1286562355 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Operation not permitted < 1286562362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO LOOK AT THE FIRST TEN ERROR MESSAGES < 1286562409 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try perl -e '($! = $_), print $! for (0..10)' < 1286562413 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't assign an array to a scalar < 1286562432 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl: It is the worst. < 1286562460 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`run perl -e 'print "I'\''m evil!";' < 1286562483 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ perl -e 'use Scalar::Util qw/dualvar/; $a = dualvar 1,"b"; print $a+0; print $a.""; print "\n"' < 1286562484 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1b < 1286562510 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*sobs* < 1286562512 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION is not entirely certain what people would use dualvar /for/, but Scalar::Util is a good place for it
< 1286562559 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only wish both those values could be references < 1286562575 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: well, you can have a reference to a scalar with such a value < 1286562582 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what you're saying doesn't really make sense, though < 1286562588 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just, you have a scalar with a string value and a numeric value < 1286562595 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the two don't resemble each other, like they generally do < 1286562605 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$a = dualvar \$b,\$c; < 1286562614 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know, it doesn't work that way < 1286562651 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't really see how the string value of a scalar could be, you know, not a string < 1286562681 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: how can you automatically set the string version based on the number -- or can you? < 1286562692 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: add 0 < 1286562708 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :addition just gives you a number < 1286562715 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm evil! < 1286562721 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that took a while... < 1286562729 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes ... < 1286562731 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF, Codu < 1286562741 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`echo But now I'm fast again. < 1286562743 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But now I'm fast again. < 1286562748 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1286562749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@dinky:~/Code/vagrant$ perl -e 'use Scalar::Util qw/dualvar/; $a=dualvar 1,2; print $a+1; print $a.""; print $/' < 1286562749 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 < 1286562757 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Behold! The string value of the number is an integer. < 1286562764 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT NOW SCIENCE < 1286562777 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the string value is "2" < 1286562778 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not 2 < 1286562779 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I'm betting somewhere within dualvar it casted that to a string. < 1286562794 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, 2 has a numeric value 2, and a string value "2" < 1286562804 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, of course. < 1286562816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1286562820 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it just took the string value from 2 < 1286562838 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm... is "true but False" working in Rakudo yet? < 1286562838 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perl: It is evil. < 1286562841 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@dinky:~/Code/vagrant$ perl -e 'use Scalar::Util qw/dualvar/; $a=dualvar "a",1; print $a+1; print $a.""; print $/' < 1286562841 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :11 < 1286562842 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if you do $a=dualvar 1,$b where $b=dualvar 1,"x" < 1286562858 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: it'd just take the string part of $b < 1286562860 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: it kills your only son < 1286562873 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you have more than one son, it kills the others so the remaining one is your only son, then kills that < 1286562874 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION assassinates Perl
< 1286562875 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: the numeric value of "a" is 0 < 1286562880 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you don't have a son, it makes you give birth to one < 1286562881 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then kills it < 1286562886 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: indeed < 1286562892 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really, this is all quite logical < 1286562899 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the numeric value of EVERYTHING is 0 < 1286562909 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, itym "EVERYTHING" < 1286562912 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless it happens to look like a number < 1286562919 0 :impomatic!~chatzilla@80.229.122.56 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286562935 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you don't have to quote strings in Perl, if it's unambiguous without < 1286562940 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although use strict; checks for that sort of thing) < 1286562948 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bibble < 1286562948 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: did you ever get that program working? < 1286562967 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need quotes around "STDIN" but not EVERYTHING then? < 1286562981 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or, crud < 1286562985 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends on context? < 1286562987 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no, because there's no context where you can validly have either a string, or the name of a filehandle < 1286562991 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah < 1286563016 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: JclRobots? Yes, the new version is working, but only on the latest beta release of Tcl. 8.5.9 didn't support something it needed < 1286563020 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: stop saying bibble! < 1286563022 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jcl! < 1286563023 0 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286563024 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like Tcl but in JAVA < 1286563030 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. print STDIN "Hello, world!" is different from print STDIN, "Hello, world!" which is different from print *STDIN, "Hello, world!" < 1286563037 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic: I meant the BF Joust program < 1286563041 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*STDIN ? < 1286563057 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: the set of all variables named something followed by STDIN, or else the concept of the variable name STDIN itself < 1286563075 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh right :-) Yes, it was only a simple example for the wiki, not even competitive. < 1286563078 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because there isn't actually a sigil for filehandles, you need to use that notation to pass them to functions instead < 1286563089 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even some simple programs can be competitive < 1286563108 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, why should I stop saying bibble? < 1286563120 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes you sound like you're a few months old. < 1286563128 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o < 1286563135 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides the fact that I'm not an image editor < 1286563137 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okokokokoko < 1286563142 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: what < 1286563151 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://bibblelabs.com/ < 1286563159 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, what a coincidence! I'm not an image editor either < 1286563264 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bibble < 1286563274 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF? For the record, I never used it to mean any of those things < 1286563298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You definitely meant it as #2. < 1286563321 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or #4. < 1286563364 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :amusing ontopic Wikipedia vandalism: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brainfuck&diff=389517231&oldid=389497650 < 1286563409 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1286563425 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although whatever program generated that clearly wasn't designed for characters significantly past 255 in Unicode < 1286563477 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1286563481 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ha < 1286563489 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, slow-loading page < 1286563493 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: presumably the article has unicode in it < 1286563499 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ho! < 1286563520 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it's quite a large page... < 1286563541 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^that particular random barely-a-reference brought to you by the Cartoon Guide to Statistics < 1286563550 0 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286563576 0 :antivigilante!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1286563909 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I assume the result of that program was the entire page? < 1286563913 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1286563924 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: so do I, I haven't tried to run it < 1286563929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, look. A Nobel Peace Prize winner that has *actually done something*! < 1286563941 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Liú Xiǎobō, human rights activist in the PRC. Currently in jail. < 1286563947 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PRC is currently very pissed. < 1286563969 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(刘晓波 or 劉曉波) < 1286563969 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PRC is always pissed. < 1286563992 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1286564001 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, but not usually to the point of blacking out all foreign news and forbidding all discussion of the Nobel Prize in domestic news. < 1286564045 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Mmmm, they're all about censorship though. < 1286564052 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: So that's not wildly beyond their usual douchebaggery. < 1286564080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: They're also claiming that this award goes against Nobel principles. < 1286564133 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And being very very pissy to the Norwegian ambassador. < 1286564135 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Still very typical douchebaggery. < 1286564144 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, true. < 1286564279 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're also arresting university students for celebrating the first Chinese winner of the Nobel Prize. < 1286564381 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The PRC: They are douchebags. This we know. < 1286564387 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are capable of ANY level of douchebaggery. < 1286564395 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a government that severely needs to be wiped from the globe. < 1286564418 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though there are countries that need it worse. < 1286564420 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is the most regressive government outside of the middle east and sub-Saharan Africa. < 1286564425 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :North Korea. < 1286564442 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, that's true ... but North Korea is so TYPICALLY evil :P < 1286564461 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :North Korea is just the most regressive government. :) < 1286564490 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... And appears to run their government based on Bond villians. < 1286564525 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: it's pretty easy to show that if a number is normal in base n, it is also normal in base n^2 and in base n/2 (for even n obv) < 1286564570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: so do I, I haven't tried to run it ;; in case it deletes all your files? :-P < 1286564584 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Too lazy. < 1286564591 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : It is the most regressive government outside of the middle east and sub-Saharan Africa. ;; yeah, North Korea, pikhq got there first :P < 1286564593 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think what bothers me most about China is that you can get enough of an impression of how normal life is in China to see that people are blinded and actively lied to by their government, but in North Korea is't just a giant mystery. < 1286564620 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, you KNOW they are, but really we have no idea. It's friggin' North Korea. < 1286564626 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :North Koreans want change but would never, ever ask for it. < 1286564634 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They sort of have this food problem to deal with first. < 1286564643 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the not-getting-killed-by-voting thing. < 1286564650 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well. < 1286564655 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not getting killed by spoiling your ballot. < 1286564736 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You can get *an* idea of what it's like in North Korea. Courtesy of defectors. < 1286564760 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Imperfect, though. < 1286564778 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whereas the PRC... They let everyone know about *all* the crazy! < 1286564861 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They just have too many people and too much vitality to do anything about it. < 1286564878 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Briggard: thou pitst'k on desgrute. < 1286564882 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yup, Palin is running in 2012. < 1286564914 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: joy < 1286564933 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If she wins, I'm asking for refugee status. < 1286565031 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next step: ayn rand's profile on a coin < 1286565047 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know it's coming < 1286565073 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1286565136 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: If that happens I think we should eradicate the US. < 1286565150 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Turn Canada into a continent. < 1286565187 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Canadia < 1286565324 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :derp < 1286565345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this room has ten walls and i am the third < 1286565465 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and Obama is calling for the PRC to release Liú Xiǎobō. < 1286565633 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that's wonderful. The prize is being officially termed "blasphemy". < 1286565661 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. < 1286565700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"two years' deprivation of political rights" < 1286565715 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahh, I love how everybody uses "rights" to mean "rights that we have decided are privileges". < 1286565726 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ain't it "wonderful"? < 1286565955 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"A given infinite sequence is either normal or not normal, whereas a real number, having a different base-b expansion for each integer b >= 2, may be normal in one base but not in another (Cassels 1959 and Schmidt 1960)." --WP < 1286565958 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1286566061 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/137/137517/13751746/jpg/active/320x.jpg < 1286566120 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like he doesn't even realise that the Norwegian government has no influence on the Norwegian Nobel Committee. < 1286566142 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, except that the members are appointed by Norwegian Parliament. < 1286566224 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if Taiwan wanted to crush China and get their independence universally recognised < 1286566230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just have to build a billion sweatshops! < 1286566339 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl29-2-0-cust326.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286566467 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : counting utf-8 characters is easy - just take the byte count, then subtract the number of bytes in the range 128-192. < 1286566470 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*blink* < 1286566481 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That... Actually works on well-formed UTF-8. < 1286566516 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No shit :P < 1286566523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: But it's quicker to skip over characters. < 1286566528 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: True. < 1286566535 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As Colin Percival did. < 1286566538 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have to traverse the string anyway, so yes < 1286566539 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(After Kragen Sitaker.) < 1286566545 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, that does fuck up one thing... < 1286566555 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Character composition. < 1286566570 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bah < 1286566579 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, look. WP's begging for donations again. < 1286566593 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: they need to offer me a tardis mug < 1286566601 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok... uk people are *not* going to get that < 1286566631 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can UK people not get a TARDIS reference? < 1286566658 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: do you get PBS on your TV? < 1286566667 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1286566669 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if not, you can only imagine the mug to which I refer < 1286566681 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So is PBS the Doctor Who channel for the US? < 1286566699 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PBS is the only source of non-American TV for the US, afaict < 1286566705 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It was in the past (classic Who) < 1286566718 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The new one got aired on Sci-Fi, and then moved to BBCA. < 1286566724 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SyFy < 1286566735 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It was never SyFy when they had Doctor Who. < 1286566736 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Literacy isn't Xtreme Kool. < 1286566745 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Syfy < 1286566750 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's pronounced "siffie". < 1286566753 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I swear to god it is. < 1286566754 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Fuck < 1286566795 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Does BBC America air the *UK* BBC news? < 1286566798 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_, tell us of this mug from the far distant land of America. < 1286566808 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, it's partly irrelevant... but oh so comforting! < 1286566820 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: YOU PUT COFFEE IN IT AND THE TARDIS DECAL WOULD FADE TO INVISIBLE < 1286566830 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Character composition. ;; you mean like combining umlaut and shit? < 1286566835 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coffee, not tea, because this is AMERICA. < 1286566839 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well obviously it counts codepoints not graphemes < 1286566843 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_, the awesomeness! < 1286566844 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because counting the latter is LOLIMPOSSIBLE < 1286566858 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: I WANT IT < 1286566872 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i regret not giving them money < 1286566884 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pbs has turned into a shopping channel for videos now, though < 1286566922 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on Microsoft buying Adobe: "Merging two huge globs that each can extract rent on their various properties into a single similar vast glob. What could possibly go wrong..." "The combined corporate mass would exceed the Tolman–Oppenheimer–Volkoff limit and they would collapse into a black hole?" < 1286566924 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--Hacker News < 1286566926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: They do the BBC World newscast every weekday in the evening. < 1286566931 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: INSUFFICIENT < 1286566932 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC. < 1286566946 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I want the ten o' clock news as it airs on BBC 1! < 1286566949 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Daily! < 1286566982 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Y'know what I'd love? The ability to pay the BBC license fee and stream BBC over the Internet. While in the US. < 1286566998 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It's more than you probably think it is. < 1286567011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :£145.50 for colour, £49 for black and white. < 1286567015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, you can pay for just black and white.) < 1286567020 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's yearly. < 1286567027 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that's... < 1286567031 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$230.72/year. < 1286567053 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: $19.23/month, paid annually. Actually that's surprisingly cheap... < 1286567064 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Also, iPlayer quality isn't that good, unfortunately. < 1286567078 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And downloading it requires a separate program that pretends to be an iPhone. < 1286567093 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Also shows disappear after something like seven days. < 1286567129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: You also can't stream the channels, just the news and stuff. < 1286567133 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: No, I mean actually stream it. Properly. < 1286567135 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But yeah, if it existed, I'd approve. < 1286567150 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, dammit, I want multicast on the public Internet. < 1286567161 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: For news itself, though, I presume you know about http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/. < 1286567164 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck the cable infrastructure, multicast streaming, bitch. < 1286567172 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yeah, it's in my RSS reader. < 1286567173 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Which is, incidentally, the world's *only* well-designed news website. < 1286567183 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Disagree? Try me. < 1286567187 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, Microsoft bought Adobe‽ < 1286567193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: They're in talks. < 1286567199 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect this will make Flash suck more. < 1286567211 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION 's brain explodes
< 1286567217 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Well, certainly on Linux/OS X. < 1286567229 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Windows ... it's actually already acceptable on Windows, or, well, moreso than other OSes. < 1286567233 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So that doesn't help. < 1286567235 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's somewhat humbling that almost all real numbers are uncomputable. < 1286567238 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now if Apple bought it up... < 1286567246 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...they'd drop support for all non-OS X OSes (see: Logic Pro) < 1286567249 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Well, there's one dev for Flash Linux. < 1286567251 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But it would get a lot better on OS X. < 1286567255 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Precisely one dev. < 1286567261 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I've seen his blog. He's not very smrt. < 1286567268 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yuh. < 1286567273 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news, Microsoft is in talks to acquire the computable reals. < 1286567278 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was that the OS X guy? < 1286567279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forget. < 1286567281 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, the Linux guy. < 1286567284 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: :D < 1286567284 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And from what I gather, you'd need an actual dev *team* to get Flash to not suck. < 1286567305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://blogs.adobe.com/penguinswf/ Here's the blog. < 1286567312 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it seems to have reverted to default formatting of some description. < 1286567342 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile, the first result for "penguin.swf" on Google: http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~hopha/penguin.swf < 1286567373 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if Flash sucks less *running in a Windows VM*. < 1286567400 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Actually, Flash sucks in a lot of ways on Windows. < 1286567417 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Said like someone who's never used Flash on OS X or Linux. < 1286567431 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Does Youtube peg a CPU? < 1286567434 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have and frequently do use Flash on both. < 1286567436 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Coworker Tinic has just published..." < 1286567442 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flash is especially bad on 64-bit Linux, because *they dropped 64-bit support right after a pre-release that was later found to have serious security flaws*. < 1286567442 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hello, Coworker! < 1286567444 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've also used the Flash-based soundmanager2 on Windows and Linux. < 1286567448 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're apparently going to add it back in. < 1286567449 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :On Windows, timing is a horrible joke. < 1286567453 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So: < 1286567456 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You get to use nspluginwrapper! < 1286567457 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHAHAHAHAHA < 1286567468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hint: nspluginwrapper *crashes for no reason, constantly*. < 1286567478 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Every time I'm listening to something using YouTube, I never close a tab. < 1286567478 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? < 1286567484 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nspluginwrapper doesn't like it when I close tabs. < 1286567489 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It gets ANGRY. < 1286567509 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes yes, alise angry, alise eat babies. < 1286567518 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, Microsoft has competition for Flash, if you don't recall. < 1286567518 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, nspluginwrapper angry :P < 1286567524 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's called Silverlight and nobody cares. < 1286567525 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Competition" < 1286567528 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nspluginwrapper confused and hurt. < 1286567531 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But if they could squash Flash, who knows. < 1286567533 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: ... :( < 1286567535 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is why it gets angry. < 1286567545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I am feeling sorry for nspluginwrapper < 1286567551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMN YOU CPRESSEY_! DAAMN YOUUUUU-- < 1286567555 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION floats away
< 1286567564 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: Damn you and damn your underscore to hell! < 1286567614 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, don't float away! < 1286567618 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Think of the helium! < 1286567618 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would nick myself back to normal but this cpressey freak is still logged in < 1286567647 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I AM NATURALLY LIGHTER THAN AIR < 1286567651 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: /ns ghost cpressey password < 1286567659 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And suddenly the cpressey am disappearate, like ghost. < 1286567689 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How do people not know about /nickserv ghost ... < 1286567707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Bad parenting. < 1286567800 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Disconnected by services < 1286567804 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey_: Darn, you've changed your password since accidentally leaking it to #esoteric on 2010-08-10 :P < 1286567815 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. darn! < 1286567817 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I seem to recall he was joking. < 1286567820 0 :cpressey_!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :cpressey < 1286567835 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, I was -- what was I going...? < 1286567836 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Oh, I just grepped the logs for cpressey.*identify :P < 1286567865 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well why would he write identify rather than like < 1286567869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ns identify parr0t < 1286567872 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT PLAYS VIDEO BETTER INSIDE OF A WINDOWS FUCKING VM. < 1286567874 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hey, that means i could kill mz*bot removely too < 1286567879 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*remotely < 1286567881 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Thought he was in a nickserv query window? < 1286567885 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: did you try? XD < 1286567887 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aside from one detail: the Win2k network stack sucks. < 1286567890 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes. < 1286567894 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Who makes nickserv query windows? < 1286567899 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: it's limited < 1286567902 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 concurrent connections or sth < 1286567902 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: cpressey < 1286567906 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's a patch -- or -- < 1286567907 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that just XP? < 1286567913 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Pidgin, that's who < 1286567926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: That's crazy. < 1286567928 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: The real question is who would subject themselves to Pidgin for IRC. < 1286567945 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION did for a while.
< 1286567950 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: people who are subjected to it anyway, that's who < 1286567962 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Windows 2000 Professional does have a limit of 10 concurrent inbound < 1286567962 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :connections, as is stated in the following Microsoft knowledge base < 1286567962 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :article:" < 1286567970 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Only inbound. < 1286567981 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can only find patchse for XP. < 1286567983 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*patches < 1286567985 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It uses less CPU *and memory* to have a full Virtual Box VM running for Flash. < 1286568009 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Now set up a VNC server on that Windows box, target it at a Flash window, and integrate it into a browser plugin that: < 1286568013 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(1) Contacts the Windows VM < 1286568017 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(2) Tells it to load the Flash file < 1286568025 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(3) Tells it to focus on it with VNC < 1286568030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(4) Receives the video stream < 1286568034 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So fucking perverse. < 1286568037 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(5) Displays it in the area where the Flash should be < 1286568042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(6) Relays clicks and typing. < 1286568044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: ^ DO IT < 1286568401 0 :impomatic!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1286568679 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :iow, rewrite nspluginwrapper into winbrowsepluginwrapper < 1286568717 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Better still. Use RDP for the display. < 1286568735 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Sure thing, get on it. < 1286568992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fred Neechy < 1286568996 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"God died" < 1286569011 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Author of the book, "The Fag Physics" < 1286569146 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders what the best version of Windows to run in a VM is
< 1286569151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 95 < 1286569181 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: For those programs that'll work on 95? ... Probably, actually. < 1286569202 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: 3.11 < 1286569210 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It Runs In DOSBox!(TM) < 1286569299 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: WinCE < 1286569302 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs away
< 1286569416 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION grabs a Win95 ISO
< 1286569465 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: If you run into problems I should be able to help. After all, I used it in a VM for several days as my only OS... < 1286569469 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aaaaw. They no longer support Flash on 95. < 1286569478 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Meh, oldversion.com < 1286569501 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Macromedia Flash Player 9 (1.3 MB) < 1286569505 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although I don't know if YT supports 9. < 1286569514 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Whatever, just use the latest version that works. < 1286569526 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: As for the browser, Seamonkey is probably your best bet. < 1286569533 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flash 9 worked on 98... < 1286569538 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Or Fx 2. < 1286569539 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Opera. < 1286569543 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Oh right. < 1286569546 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I keep forgetting Opera exists. < 1286569552 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: If it works in 98 it'll probably work in 95. < 1286569556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Find a way to get around the OS check, proceed onwards. < 1286569568 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"There are, of course, more possible ABCs for numbers, and this would be a poor hierarchy if it precluded the possibility of adding those. You can add MyFoo between Complex and Real with..." < 1286569590 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: wat < 1286569604 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trying to think of the right emoticon for how that makes me feel < 1286569620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Things that make me RAGE: Adobe refusing to give me a download page for Flash because "Chrome has it built-in!". < 1286569630 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want a fucking download page! Fuck you, Adobe! You don't know what the fuck I want! < 1286569804 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, where did you get that from? < 1286569829 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Python manual. "Abstract base classes for numbers." < 1286569842 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O.o < 1286569857 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what happens when SE people try to do mathematics. < 1286569858 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://docs.python.org/library/numbers.html < 1286569874 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Python is perfectionist about its crap. < 1286569888 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is an ABC, for heaven's sake? < 1286569895 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Abstract Base Class < 1286569908 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :C++ and Python people seem to have the same weird terminology there < 1286569925 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are there any non-Base abstract classes? < 1286569950 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do explain what an abstract class is and what Base means. < 1286569979 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :An abstract class is one that doesn't... wait, there are no abstract classes as such in Python. < 1286569985 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SEE? < 1286570005 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is what happens when SE people try to do SE. < 1286570055 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to think what class sensibly fits between C and R.
< 1286570076 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's kind of stupid to think of it as a tower in the first place, but whatever. < 1286570088 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Interesting". They're a bit more involved than real numbers, but it would be an exaggeration to call them "complex". < 1286570129 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have it! < 1286570138 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: especially in a language which prides itself on duck typing < 1286570150 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reals are a 1-dimensional continuum, complexes a 2D one. < 1286570174 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Logically, the intermediate sets would all be fractal continua. < 1286570188 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sure that's exactly what the manual author had in mind. < 1286570225 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That's actually what I thought, ha. < 1286570226 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact 'MyFoo' stands for "my fractally-organized ordinals" < 1286570226 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it could be helpful if you're computing things to do with infinite-coin Hanoi. < 1286570231 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :After your first line. < 1286570283 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries to declip a song with Audacity
< 1286570304 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since the legal moves for n-coin Hanoi approach Sierpinski's triangle as n grows. < 1286570322 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ...awesome. < 1286570327 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait, what? < 1286570331 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How can a number approach a fractal? < 1286570342 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the graph of the moves. < 1286570344 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or do you mean, rendering the legal moves in some way? < 1286570345 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1286570349 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Awesome. < 1286570405 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I assume you could use a fractal continuum to simulate moves in n-coin Hanoi as movements through the Sierpinski triangle. < 1286570478 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am now trying to make this work. < 1286570498 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is evidently something seriously wrong with me. < 1286570519 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not enough Lithuanian peanut-butter-based shaving crme in your diet. < 1286570531 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently. < 1286570656 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, how do you uniquely represent a point on the Sierpinski gasket. < 1286570678 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Note however, that since computers store floating-point numbers as approximations it is usually unwise to use them as dictionary keys." < 1286570690 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They "store them as approximations". < 1286570701 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where to begin with that? < 1286570717 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Frothing at the mouth? < 1286570745 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would "are approximations to what you probably wanted to store" make more sense? < 1286570758 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Twould. < 1286570760 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Yes. It would be a good start. < 1286570766 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed, it would be correct. < 1286570772 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : not enough Lithuanian peanut-butter-based shaving crme in your diet. < 1286570773 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :crme < 1286570778 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: POWERSHELL!!! < 1286570782 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Hmm, how do you uniquely represent a point on the Sierpinski gasket. ;; a complex number < 1286570787 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, more conveniently, R^2 < 1286570793 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :say the whole fractal is from (0,0) to (1,1) < 1286570793 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: are you done being silly < 1286570799 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then pick a point in-between < 1286570803 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to pick further, go smaller < 1286570803 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc. < 1286570826 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course if you don't have reals, rationals should suffice at a pinch. < 1286570866 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: or, something to do with Pascal's triangle for something more "exact" on a computer i guess < 1286570869 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you could represent it using Pascal's triangle mod 2 < 1286570869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The pattern obtained by coloring only the odd numbers in Pascal's triangle closely resembles the fractal called the Sierpinski triangle. This resemblance becomes more and more accurate as more rows are considered; in the limit, as the number of rows approaches infinity, the resulting pattern is the Sierpinski triangle, assuming a fixed perimeter.[6] More generally, numbers could be colored differently according to whether or not they are multiples of 3, 4, e < 1286570869 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tc.; this results in other similar patterns. < 1286570872 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: snap < 1286570875 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: snap < 1286570878 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1286570907 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can generate it with a CA < 1286570908 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that's just a consequence of addition mod 2 being the same as XOR. < 1286570915 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, same. < 1286570925 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: so? < 1286570930 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's still relevant! maybe. < 1286570947 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I too shall join in this argument! < 1286570950 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... nah, never mind. < 1286570961 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: CA? < 1286570977 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or you can mail-order Siepinski gaskets from Gregor's Olde Infinite Objects Shoppe. < 1286570996 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOIOS < 1286570996 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: California. < 1286570999 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rolls right off the tongue < 1286571005 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What about the Chaos Game? < 1286571025 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: how do you generate a pascal's triangle with a california? < 1286571038 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: very carefully < 1286571043 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: CA won't produce the infinitely detailed one though < 1286571050 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Okay, Flash 9 actually works on Windows 95 without any work. < 1286571054 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pascal's triangle is only sierpinski considering infinite rows < 1286571056 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: :D < 1286571057 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: well, neither will Pascal's triangle then? < 1286571058 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: are you being childish today as well < 1286571059 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: screenshot < 1286571061 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it do youtube? < 1286571071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: well that's why i implied using unspecified trickery to use it < 1286571076 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to identify points < 1286571080 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I've not installed it yet; waiting on this '95 torrent. < 1286571103 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Ah. < 1286571105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Link me up, dood. < 1286571112 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had 95 a while back but not now. < 1286571120 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or I could find it myself :P < 1286571121 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wish you could have a (log 3/log 2)-ple. < 1286571126 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I dunno. The CA/PT triangle is infinite from the bottom up, the Hanoi-coins one is infinite from the top down... < 1286571130 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You can with MATHEMATICS < 1286571145 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, non-integer sized tuples? < 1286571148 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/triangle/gasket/ < 1286571154 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, let's see, S^(log 3/log 2) is a function from (log 3/log 2) -> S, in set theory. < 1286571165 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know of the sets 1 and 2, but what the fuck does log do to a set? < 1286571166 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: http://www.torrentz.com/faa86c86e912728e0ede9463c0227a5c0c656c1a < 1286571167 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA < 1286571168 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :O mathematics, you never cease to amaze me. < 1286571181 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Clearly (log 3/log 2) has dimension (log 3/log 2) but not that cardinality. < 1286571188 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, figure out what set has that dimension, and you're done. < 1286571199 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is similar to the fractions of a bit stuff < 1286571221 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, but raised to the power of AWESOME. < 1286571250 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :setdefault: awesome dict method with ultracrap name. < 1286571268 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I always forget what setdefault does because it has a shitty name. What does it do again? < 1286571298 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if k not in d then d[k] = v; return d[k] < 1286571326 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er modulo how ; works in that < 1286571348 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if there's something there, return it. if not, insert this and return it. < 1286571367 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: *d: < 1286571370 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ; works fine there < 1286571373 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surprisingly < 1286571374 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1286571376 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1286571387 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: woot, that shortens vagrant < 1286571396 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if v not in w:w[v]=choice(W) < 1286571396 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : q=w[v];s.addch(B-Y,A-X,r(32,126)if U and 0==r(0,2)and q-32 else q) < 1286571414 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :useful for like: self.defined_in.setdefault(groupname, set()).add(filename) < 1286571468 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :um < 1286571468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@dinky:~/Code/vagrant$ wc -c vagrant.py < 1286571468 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1916 vagrant.py < 1286571469 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ehird@dinky:~/Code/vagrant$ wc -c vagrant.py < 1286571469 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1896 vagrant.py < 1286571472 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh yeah. < 1286571475 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you get a set of fractional dimension < 1286571478 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: inflated file size due to verbose debugging AI code) < 1286571488 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder what wars took place in those two years < 1286571503 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on another topic, Lebesgue measure is so cool < 1286571524 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: any response from FIS yet? < 1286571536 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm, *Hausdorff < 1286571540 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mixed up which one is the fractal one >__> < 1286571547 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: FIS -- the bancstar people? < 1286571557 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"For example, the Cantor set (a zero-dimensional topological space) is a union of two copies of itself, each copy shrunk by a factor 1/3; this fact can be used to prove that its Hausdorff dimension is ln2 / ln3" < 1286571558 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: yes... well, potentially at least < 1286571558 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ^ < 1286571559 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :close! < 1286571568 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Sierpinski triangle is a union of three copies of itself, each copy shrunk by a factor of 1/2; this yields a Hausdorff dimension of ln3 / ln2" < 1286571570 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right < 1286571578 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that's the point. < 1286571596 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: then, a (ln3/ln2)-ple of S-es is a function from the Sierpinski set to S. < 1286571606 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1286571609 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*from a member of the Sierpinski set < 1286571611 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to be clearer < 1286571612 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*to a member of S < 1286571615 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa. Win95 actually supports Unicode. *Barely*. < 1286571620 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought Hausdorff dimension didn't work like that... < 1286571646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: YOU DON'T WORK LIKE THAT < 1286571648 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: don't you have to install some unicode support patch from ms first? < 1286571664 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I hope that Win95 is old enough to not be OSR2.5. < 1286571666 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, the Hausdorff dimension isn't the cardinality. < 1286571678 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|R^2| /= 2 < 1286571679 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It's the release version. < 1286571685 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: OSR2.5 replaced Windows Explorer with Internet "I Can't Believe It's Not Windows Explorer" Explorer. < 1286571694 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thus dramatically steepening the decline of Windows. < 1286571700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I know that! < 1286571701 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: Installing unicows.dll made it actually support Unicode as well as NT versions. < 1286571705 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: But you have to cheat somehow. < 1286571707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So cheat like this! < 1286571713 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if windows explorer == internet explorer, then certainly windows == internet! < 1286571743 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: This one doesn't have IE at all. < 1286571747 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, but I'm trying to work out what R^(log 3/log 2) is /so that I can identify a point on the Sierpinski set uniquely*. < 1286571751 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*/ < 1286571752 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you have COM and .NET, so... YES < 1286571755 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uni-Cows! < 1286571762 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :com.net < 1286571774 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best way to package .NET applications inside COM executable files! < 1286571775 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: UNICOde for Windows Systems < 1286571789 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: dude. < 1286571792 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote if windows explorer == internet explorer, then certainly windows == internet! < 1286571796 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: R^(log 3/log 2) is a function from a set with cardinality log 3/log 2 to the raels! < 1286571818 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF UNGRATEFUL BÂTARD < 1286571821 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ungrapeful < 1286571823 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh my, I'm having quotes added < 1286571823 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, but how does one have a set with non-integral cardinality (indeed, non-natural cardinality). < 1286571828 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1286571834 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: CLEVERLY < 1286571834 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :237| if windows explorer == internet explorer, then certainly windows == internet! < 1286571866 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Clearly ∈ should result in a real, representing how-much-in the value is. < 1286571868 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I haven't emailed them yet < 1286571905 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{1[1/2], 2[1/2]} is a set with cardinality 1, and both 1 ∈ S and 2 ∈ S = 1/2. < 1286571908 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Q.E.D. < 1286571918 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, that is strangely awesome. < 1286571923 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{1[3]} = {1,1,1}, of course. < 1286571928 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So 1 ∈ S = 3. < 1286571933 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea if it makes sense, but it is awesome nontheless. < 1286571938 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*nonetheless < 1286571992 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: {{}[Ω]}, where Ω = Chaitin's constant. < 1286571995 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHAHAHA < 1286572027 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "Now, allow me to introduce you to NEGATIVE CARDINALITIES!" gargled the mad scientist, before vomiting profusely. < 1286572041 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ Now a Lyttle Lytton entry! < 1286572046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. I've got an old game here that'd be nice to play. Maybe it'll run nicely in Win95. < 1286572054 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those are just all those sets pointing in the other direction < 1286572079 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: thank you for saying "I've got" and not just "I've" < 1286572099 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, why do you thank him for this < 1286572100 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1286572102 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Odd as it is, it *is* idiomatic in General American. < 1286572116 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: because it bugs me. < 1286572123 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Generalised Americanism < 1286572129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Everything runs nicely in Win95 :P < 1286572137 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've a bone to pick with anybody who argues that "I've got" is incorrect. < 1286572138 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Are you gonna do it in VirtualBox or QEMU or what? < 1286572140 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I only ever hear it on the internet, somehow. < 1286572171 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it makes you sound like you should be telling me about how a storm's a-comin', as you can feel it in your knees. < 1286572181 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1286572213 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Virtaul Box. < 1286572226 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VIRTAUL BOX < 1286572232 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Virtaul is an awesome word; we must now define it. < 1286572239 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Chinese knockoff. :D < 1286572241 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Y'all ain't one to be mockin' American colloquialism. < 1286572258 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Also, I feel it in my ANKLES. < 1286572262 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Get it right. < 1286572286 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: ALSO, it doesn't matter what Mr. Ivory Tower thinks it sounds like, because English is defined by its speakers, and its speakers overwhelmingly say "i've got" < 1286572300 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I feels it in my ANKLES, I tells ya! Mah ANKLES! Geddit RIGHT, for chrissakes, man!" < 1286572307 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cpressey: ALSO, it doesn't matter what Mr. Ivory Tower thinks it sounds like, because English is defined by its speakers, and its speakers overwhelmingly say "i've got" < 1286572313 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most pointless pushing of descriptivism ever? < 1286572336 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WILL PUSH MY DESCRIPTIVIST AGENDA 'TIL THE END OF TIM < 1286572337 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1286572339 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I shall join you, O 95 one. < 1286572341 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That was a typo, but I'm leaving it. < 1286572352 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NO IT WASN'T IT'S LINGUISTIC INNOVATION < 1286572365 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I will now scare you: When Windows 95 was released, I was 48 hours old. < 1286572375 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: "Every typo is linguistic innovation" is not descriptivism. < 1286572383 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Neither are jokes! < 1286572390 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: NEITHER < 1286572391 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: IS < 1286572392 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: YOUR < 1286572393 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: MOM < 1286572396 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FACE < 1286572398 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Momface < 1286572418 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, wait, I say "I've" rather than "I've got" quite frequently. < 1286572457 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OW < 1286572461 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I JUST BASHED OW < 1286572479 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's it. < 1286572482 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Dammit, feel old! < 1286572485 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From now on I'm using "I've have" < 1286572486 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses ddrescue on this horribly beaten up Sim City 3000 disc
< 1286572489 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I AM OLD < 1286572502 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: HOW OLD ARE YOU AGAIN I'VE FORGOTTEN < 1286572507 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: 20 < 1286572520 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Younger than me, older than you X-P < 1286572523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: HOLY FUCKING SHIT SGEO IS ONE YEAR OLDER THAN YOU < 1286572527 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE < 1286572531 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: AND WINDOWS 95 WAS NOT THE FIRST VERSION THAT I USED < 1286572540 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, let's rank everyone by age: < 1286572546 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :- Gregor (oldest) < 1286572551 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(at 45) < 1286572560 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise < pikhq < Sgeo < Gregor < ais < cpressey < 1286572560 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No bloody way. < 1286572562 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Approx. < 1286572571 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Eh? How old are you? < 1286572578 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Like you said, 45. < 1286572582 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But ais is at LEAST 60. < 1286572587 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And cpressey is older than time itself. < 1286572589 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: No butrly :P < 1286572590 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Being God) < 1286572597 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And oerjan is older than cpressey. < 1286572604 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Alex Smith was born on 15 April 1987" < 1286572614 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So he's, like, 22-23 < 1286572622 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am the age that a person is if he's a third year graduate student who did all schooling by the canonical years. < 1286572622 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't Gregor 24? < 1286572625 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I distinctly recall 24. < 1286572627 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh shoot, ais is younger than me :P < 1286572630 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAWL < 1286572636 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you climb further up the ranks of senility. < 1286572638 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise < pikhq < Sgeo < ais523 < Gregor < cpressey < oerjan < 1286572657 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :asiekierka comes before me < 1286572660 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's, like, 3 < 1286572682 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal must be roughly in the Sgeo-to-Gregor range, I'd guess. < 1286572689 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there was another guy my age iirc < 1286572691 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13 or so < 1286572700 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: vorpal turned 20 a little bit ago iirc < 1286572707 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 21 < 1286572709 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Guhhhh < 1286572711 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he's actually around the same age as pikhq at the least < 1286572714 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal was 20 in May or June IIRC. < 1286572720 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: dude, he only acts like he's old :P < 1286572728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he knows very little! < 1286572730 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lesse, ... < 1286572735 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rugxlo < 1286572737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has to be like 45835945 < 1286572741 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because he hates everything modern < 1286572748 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or however the fuck you spell it name :P < 1286572751 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic < 1286572753 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise < Phantom_Hoover < (pikhq, Vorpal) < ais523 < Gregor < cpressey < oerjan < 1286572755 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix and bsmntbombdood are both in the pre-pikhq-to-ais range ish? < 1286572756 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I peg as being cpressey's age or older < 1286572763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bsmnt was like 16 in 2008 < 1286572771 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so he'd be around 18 now < 1286572779 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jix, no clue, he's before my time < 1286572782 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO I was about right thanks to the "pre" < 1286572784 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :impomatic is 40-something i think < 1286572787 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so actually older than oerjan < 1286572797 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(If such a thing is possible!) < 1286572813 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo < EgoBot < alise < Phantom_Hoover < (pikhq, Vorpal) < ais523 < Gregor < cpressey < oerjan < 1286572813 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clog is only 7 < 1286572817 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it doesn't talk much < 1286572821 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo < EgoBot < clog < alise < Phantom_Hoover < (pikhq, Vorpal) < ais523 < Gregor < cpressey < oerjan < 1286572836 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga is 20s iirc < 1286572837 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If we had a bot that was older than an actual channel member, that would be pretty epic. < 1286572842 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: :D < 1286572847 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh *wow*. The Win95 installer uses Windows 3.11 widgets. < 1286572855 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: it's offensive to group people's names with vorpal < 1286572857 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use = or something < 1286572857 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Heeeey, I remember that! < 1286572857 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: yeah :D < 1286572871 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: In the original disk-based Win95 release, you could make it use progman instead of explorer. < 1286572877 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I think they removed that from later releases. < 1286572892 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, Vorpal, please rank yourselves in order of age. < 1286572910 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who else actually talks ... < 1286572940 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oops, I forgot Sgeo in that list. < 1286572948 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsnet? < 1286572953 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Windows XP SP2 was the last version of Windows to have progman. < 1286572954 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: I assume by your "99" that your birth-year is 1999, making you 10 or 11. < 1286572954 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Seriously. < 1286572956 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION shakes own head
< 1286572961 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner < 1286572972 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my birth year is 2099. < 1286572973 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Nononono, the Win95 install let you set progman to be your default shell, instead of explorer. < 1286572975 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am from the future. < 1286572976 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: In the installer. < 1286572979 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND from the internet. < 1286572980 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant is < 1286572981 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: That's amazing. < 1286572981 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :24 i think < 1286572984 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe 25 now < 1286572990 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Perverse, but amazing. < 1286572996 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well that makes cheater99 the youngest. At an incredibly negative -89 or so. < 1286572996 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey? < 1286572998 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE NEED A BIG BIRTHDAYS PAGE ^_____________________^ < 1286573007 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: 24, amirite? < 1286573014 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: how old are you? SOME KIND OF CHART IS BEING ASSEMBLED < 1286573015 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: or 18 < 1286573017 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pick one < 1286573019 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no other age is permitted < 1286573019 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19900323 < 1286573022 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: 3 < 1286573030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : 19900323 < 1286573034 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why would you use such a format... < 1286573037 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner is younger than EgoBot! < 1286573040 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: THAT IS NOT 24 OR 18 < 1286573042 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however < 1286573044 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we will list youa s that < 1286573045 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*as that < 1286573047 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, he was on this channel before he was born. < 1286573052 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no, I'm 24 actually, how the hell did you know? < 1286573055 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner < HackEgo < EgoBot < clog < alise < Phantom_Hoover < (pikhq, Vorpal) < ais523 < Gregor < cpressey < oerjan < 1286573065 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: HackEgo is less than three. < 1286573068 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: probably you said it at one point, or it was on your blog, or i just deducted it < 1286573069 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Alternatively, HackEgo is <3 < 1286573071 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: NO IT'S NOT < 1286573079 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you forgot Sgeo again. < 1286573081 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: I am *scarily* accurate at these things < 1286573083 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :excellent deduction then < 1286573085 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I copied cpressey < 1286573102 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner < HackEgo < EgoBot < clog < alise < Phantom_Hoover < (pikhq, Vorpal) < Sgeo < ais523 < Gregor < cpressey < oerjan < 1286573107 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, who copied me. < 1286573112 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Are you seeding that torrent :| < 1286573114 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'D BETTERBE < 1286573129 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner < HackEgo < EgoBot < clog < alise < Phantom_Hoover < (pikhq, Vorpal) < Sgeo < ais523 < Gregor < cpressey < oerjan < Phantom_Hoover < 1286573146 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I’m called Matti Niemenmaa, and am also known as Deewiant in some online circles. I’m male, about a score of years old, and live in Finland. < 1286573146 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am apparently older than myself. < 1286573148 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cool. < 1286573152 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 score = 20 < 1286573162 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so Deewiant's actually in the pikhq/Vorpal/Sgeo quadrant < 1286573165 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yes. < 1286573188 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would not have guessed this ordering < 1286573196 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: GOOD! Because I never seed >_> < 1286573198 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this chart is seriously going to list me as 3 years old? < 1286573201 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: yes. < 1286573206 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: you have nobody to blame but yourself. < 1286573209 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aight < 1286573217 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as long as I know < 1286573230 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: adjust your birthdate on your resume < 1286573235 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my resume? < 1286573239 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a resume? < 1286573246 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make one and adjust the birthdate on it < 1286573264 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :first 3-year-old with a resume ever! < 1286573268 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :child prodigy! < 1286573294 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :child prodigy should be a group of 3-year-old kids doing prodigy songs < 1286573294 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner, I'm on it twice! < 1286573299 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1286573310 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1286573311 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All together now! SMACK MY BITCH UP < 1286573313 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I set a default goal of a 2.0 ratio. < 1286573318 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :, said the 3 year olds. < 1286573347 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20 classical Prodigy hits, performed in the rising sun kindergarten in south sussex < 1286573367 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you're Swedish -- why do you say Sussex :| < 1286573411 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, sometimes I just say stuff < 1286573425 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry but that's just the way I do it < 1286573448 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"det är lite så jag jobbar", as we would say in swedish < 1286573470 0 :cheater99!~cheater@ip-80-226-24-72.vodafone-net.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1286573611 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_News < 1286573614 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dear god. < 1286573627 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: "That is light for the jagged job-searcher", I presume < 1286573649 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: no, not even close < 1286573692 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That are lite for jag jobber. < 1286573706 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :more like "that's kind of the way I work" (work as in doing a job, not work as in function) < 1286573713 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: SHUT UP < 1286573719 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer mine < 1286573723 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DON'T < 1286573742 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, bathtime anyway, see you some other time < 1286573765 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay it's done < 1286573770 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: three year old's bathtime < 1286573775 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't forget the ducky! < 1286573780 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION has no ducky
< 1286573807 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D': < 1286573811 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1286573814 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION gives olsner a ducky
< 1286573816 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*quack* < 1286573817 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1286573818 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay! :D < 1286573822 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Media arrives.] < 1286573825 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quacky quacky ducky ducky < 1286573825 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Media < 1286573831 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: What do you have to say for yourself, PAEDOPHILE? < 1286573833 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise < 1286573839 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Media: I-- what? I was just giving him a ducky-- < 1286573840 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Media < 1286573848 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "ducky" -- is this not a VILE SEXUAL PERVERSION? < 1286573849 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise < 1286573850 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1286573852 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Media < 1286573853 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise is like 2.5a old anyway, I'm older < 1286573855 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You are hereby sentenced to DEATH < 1286573882 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Paedofinder_Gene < 1286573888 0 :Paedofinder_Gene!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1286573890 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I'm certain some legislations allow minors to be sentenced as paedophiles even when molesting older kids < 1286573894 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUkt59vY1Q < 1286573925 0 :Paedofinder_Gene!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1286573931 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just the kind of legal area where stupid things like that would be going on (except, of course, copyright law) < 1286573933 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it "reboots to install more files" and then... Locks up. < 1286573935 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1286573939 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except/also < 1286573954 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1286574006 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, whaddya think. Qemu? < 1286574037 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Piratefinder_Gen < 1286574041 0 :Piratefinder_Gen!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DAMMIT < 1286574049 0 :Piratefinder_Gen!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :Phantom_Hoover < 1286574057 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I can probably fix it. < 1286574058 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With my magic. < 1286574061 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have got it working in VB before. < 1286574063 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what I used. < 1286574065 0 :Media!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :alise < 1286574083 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Hey, you anticipated my reference before I noticed. < 1286574109 0 :jcp!~jw@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1286574111 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: bochs! 8-D < 1286574119 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, you made the reference about a week ago. < 1286574121 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Firstly: How much RAM you got? < 1286574122 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: >_> < 1286574157 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you too well. < 1286574165 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He knows you ... < 1286574167 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → Blackadder
< 1286574168 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :INTIMATELY < 1286574203 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: I assigned it 512M. < 1286574295 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Try 384. < 1286574298 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: HD size? < 1286574311 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1TB < 1286574316 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1286574320 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Just shy of 2GiB. < 1286574324 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Divided into 2 GB partitions!" < 1286574332 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All 512 of them. < 1286574341 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A: to ITWASTHEBESTOFTI: < 1286574344 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Assigned drive names of C-Z...err < 1286574370 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286574380 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Try starting again and tell me what you do at each step. I'm surprised -- maybe it is a problem with the CD. < 1286574394 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner < HackEgo < EgoBot < clog < alise < Phantom_Hoover < wareya < (pikhq, Vorpal) < Sgeo < ais523 < Gregor < cpressey < oerjan < Phantom_Hoover < 1286574394 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dang, this is time-consuming when you forget to start kqemu... < 1286574395 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^^^ Guess < 1286574403 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Is the CD attached to the VM still? < 1286574405 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: kqemu ... ??? < 1286574407 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: KVM < 1286574414 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Erm, that. < 1286574419 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :KVM: Because FUCK EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE VIRTUALISATION < 1286574440 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: At this point, your CPU has to be pretty darn olde not to have it ... < 1286574443 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It goes all the way through the steps on the booted-from-CD part of the install, reboots to boot off of the HD, and halts. < 1286574446 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Nope. < 1286574454 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: All low-end Intel models lack it. < 1286574460 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least before i3 started becoming common on laptops, I guess. < 1286574482 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: People with low-end processors are low-end people. < 1286574483 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: For instance, any Core 2 laptop with a battery life over three minutes doesn't have VT-x. < 1286574508 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm using a 1.33 GHz Core 2 Duo processor and it's wonderful. < 1286574510 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But no VT-x. < 1286574512 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: And yet, my '08 MacBook does. < 1286574520 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: God, Bochs would be practical for this. < 1286574523 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ORITE because you *love* Apple < 1286574566 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I'm trying the CD in VB now. < 1286574578 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Swear this was graphical for me. < 1286574582 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(last time) < 1286574593 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SWEAR IT! < 1286574617 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Yeah, it just has a very small non-graphical bit. Like all of Windows installs. < 1286574629 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't recall it, but sure :P < 1286574634 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wow, Audacity's "Fix Clip" tool is ... magical. < 1286574645 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has made the awesome album well-produced! < 1286574649 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :From a square to actual wavse. < 1286574652 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*waves. < 1286574679 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: ...? < 1286574693 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Are you aware of what "audio" is? < 1286574729 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: No. But I am aware of the concept of waves moving through physical matter, and have been told that audio is somehow related to that. Describe it to me. < 1286574736 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: What installation method did you choose in VB? < 1286574737 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: No. < 1286574777 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Custom? < 1286574791 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I diagnose your only diagnosis. < 1286574850 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Issue with Fix Clip: when a part of the track isn't clipped, but it leads into a louder, clipped section, the onset is kinda subdued unlike before. < 1286574965 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Windows 95 is so awesome. < 1286575105 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: SHOULD I INSTALL MICROSOFT MAIL AND FAX OPMG < 1286575378 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. It seems that Audacity handles Replay Gain. < 1286575380 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is awesome. < 1286575532 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder how Clip Fix actually works. < 1286575552 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The problems with Audacity are otherwise, like having the world's worst UI or the world's crappiest feature set. < 1286575620 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/Scholar/ ITT: Organised breaking of copyright for science! < 1286575680 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Mail and Fax or not?! < 1286575707 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Nein < 1286575717 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOSER < 1286575720 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION enables all accessories
< 1286575735 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: The only optional thing I installed was defrag. < 1286575748 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE LAME < 1286575807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF NO UK KEYBOARD LAYOUT < 1286575807 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY < 1286575834 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Am I still at the end of the age list < 1286575834 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. Should I try and *clean* this here horribly abused disc, or should I just torrent one? < 1286575836 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait < 1286575837 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1286575838 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"British" < 1286575839 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Torrent. < 1286575843 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like ddrescue but more reliable. < 1286575878 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I've actually downloaded my own torrent for a game before after losing my disc. < 1286575891 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: The Linus Torvalds backup system: put it on the Internet for everyone else. < 1286575959 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3503268/Worms_Armageddon_(Team17__1998__Sold-Out_version) < 1286575960 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here it is! < 1286576037 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Getting ready to run Windows 95 for the first time..." \o/ < 1286576037 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                                        | < 1286576037 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                                       /`\ < 1286576110 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT FUCKING CRASHED < 1286576114 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT FUCKING CRASHED QEMU < 1286576158 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: VIRTUALBOX BITCH < 1286576171 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S WHAT PLANTS CRAVE < 1286576217 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Windows Setup, part two, now running in VirtualBox. < 1286576221 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Askin' for a username and shit. < 1286576228 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm Elliott, bitch. < 1286576235 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO PASSWORD OHHH < 1286576239 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scannin' hardware 'n shit < 1286576242 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It works perfectly yo. < 1286576272 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man < 1286576275 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this perfume is crazy < 1286576278 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION will have to buy it
< 1286576327 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Have you seen "Getting ready to run Windows 95 for the first time..." ? < 1286576336 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Yes. < 1286576343 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuuuck. < 1286576347 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is now asking me to insert my CD-ROM, after having created an account and scanning hardware. < 1286576373 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Create VM, 384 megs of ram, 2 gig HD, start it, insert CD, go through the install, let all the default hardware settings be taken, yes you have network and sound hardware, take out the CD, reboot. < 1286576376 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Insert CD when prompted. < 1286576383 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use VirtualBox 3.1.6. < 1286576446 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now it 'plains about not having files on the CD. < 1286576507 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION tries again
< 1286576646 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHA IT WORKS NOW < 1286576657 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Reboot *with* the cd but press f12; select the hard disk to boot from. < 1286576666 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Follow the above instructions and it should work perfectly, unless you're crazy. < 1286576671 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or your computer is crazy. < 1286576755 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Add Printer Wizard: You must install a printer before you can print from Windows. This wizard will help you install your printer. < 1286576763 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Printer printer printer printer printer? Printer! Printer printer printer, printer; printer. < 1286576807 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Windows protection error. You need to restart your computer. < 1286576815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hmph. What? < 1286576823 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Do you have virtualisation turned on in VirtualBox? < 1286576825 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'Cuz I don't. < 1286576842 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I rebooted and selected normal mode, and now have a login prompt. < 1286576853 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :VICTORY < 1286576854 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay < 1286576859 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a desktop < 1286576862 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WIN < 1286576886 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: By the way, the first -- no, the *very* first -- thing to do is to install VBEMP. < 1286576892 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have *no idea* how slow and how ugly the VGA driver is. < 1286576902 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I CAN SEE THE INDIVIDUAL CONTROL PANEL ICONS DRAW ONE BY ONE. < 1286576917 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Opening the start menu" takes quantifiable time! < 1286576921 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: say something < 1286576927 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sounds like my old computer < 1286576937 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION sets up interwebs
< 1286577094 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: It is possible that this disc does not have networking stuff on it. < 1286577113 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Use D:/, not X:/ < 1286577116 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do you have win 95 se with Plus! ? < 1286577132 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Didn't work for me, but I'll try again. < 1286577137 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: no, that's rubbish. wait, since when is there an se? < 1286577157 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it wasn't "se" but everyone knows it's the "se" < 1286577159 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just OSR B < 1286577162 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1286577164 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it ruins it < 1286577168 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it makes explorer into ie explorer < 1286577169 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for the first time < 1286577176 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and adds proper usb < 1286577179 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :replacing a wonderfully light and usable interface with bullshit < 1286577181 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and other tings < 1286577182 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: there are third-party drivers < 1286577191 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1286577191 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OSR B is just 98 pretending to be the best Windows ever < 1286577205 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :98 in 96. < 1286577215 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, crap a whole two years early < 1286577217 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU HAVE JUST COLLAPSED THE TIME CONTINUUM. < 1286577223 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lucky, aren't we? < 1286577232 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mayyybe < 1286577236 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: this cd seems to suck < 1286577239 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's crashing virtualbox < 1286577243 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now < 1286577250 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe that's the failed copy < 1286577260 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It does seem to suck. < 1286577267 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: i could find the one i used way back < 1286577272 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Do so. < 1286577272 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one worked perfectly < 1286577278 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALT at 0xfe0fc1ac: Printer Wizard is casting Bad Magic < 1286577334 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Hmph, where on earth is the CD version... < 1286577337 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All this floppy crap! < 1286577357 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://filmcow.com/binotheelephant.html ONE THOUSAND TIMES YES FOREVER < 1286577361 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Windows 9x Project (95 OSR2.5, 98, 98SE, and ME) < 1286577362 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO NOT WANT < 1286577376 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALT at 0c3ecd00d: Workgroup Dragon has eaten Printer Wizard < 1286577387 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It does indeed suck. < 1286577396 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: WHAT IS THIS < 1286577411 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: By the guy who made Charlie the Unicorn. < 1286577414 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now we have < 1286577414 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BINO < 1286577419 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE ELEPHANT < 1286577435 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes, Meredith, I've sent an elephant to Hell, it's science stuff you wouldn't understand." < 1286577437 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...funnier said < 1286577490 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Pooping! I've been poo-ping! A looo~t." ...this thing is going to be all quotes, isn't it? < 1286577502 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: Mostly :P < 1286577504 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: But not entirely. < 1286577532 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I think you've found the CHAMBER OF MISERY!" "Oh, good, how do I get in it." < 1286577710 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Please tell me there will be a sequel. < 1286577720 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably. No guarantees, I am not the Film Cow. < 1286577724 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, a Vanilla the Plastic Snowman reference! < 1286577728 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You don't see that every day. < 1286577744 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Llamas with Hats got sequels, and it's not as funny. < 1286577759 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :We are doing science SO HARD right now. | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1286577782 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The flower... is crawling... up my urethra... | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1286577787 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly the more relevant quote for this channel. < 1286577799 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quote‽ < 1286577804 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Needs more screamycaps. < 1286577808 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: http://filmcow.com/binotheelephant.html < 1286577815 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: But he said it so resignedly! < 1286577829 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: using D: helps not, it still can't finderate the filia. < 1286577845 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The flower ... is climbing ... ... UP MY URETHRAAAAAAAA ... and singing! | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1286577853 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: "Bino's journey into hell begins!" < 1286577855 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Begins < 1286577857 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :The flower ... is crawling ... ... UP MY URETHRAAAAAAAA ... and singing! | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1286577894 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What... did you change? < 1286577908 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/climbing/crawling/ < 1286577932 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I can't find the fuzucking torrentsimo! < 1286577948 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.torrentz.com/ad773aa9319cded389aff39b6989df7547af0eeb Inexplicable CD contents < 1286577996 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: < 1286577997 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.torrentz.com/e77df637b08d16b8a346804780f05299dd034400 < 1286577998 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.torrentz.com/8deb7a5f6e0b48ba68199ac699b13e7646c20f35 < 1286577999 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pick one. < 1286578303 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Science, Bino. Speculative science! < 1286578485 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Either way, she's a spanking good witch" --DMM on Hermione Granger, Irregular Webcomic! cast list, making everyone feel vaguely uncomfortable < 1286578532 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DMM: the last person you'd expect to make you feel uncomfortable. < 1286578569 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for in that exact "have a gay old time" sense that only the profoundly non-discomforting can achieve. < 1286579053 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, did anyone else look at his raytracing work? < 1286579106 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION comes to the conclusion that per-app WINE prefixes is the *only* way to use WINE.
< 1286579140 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WINE prefixes? < 1286579157 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Where it stores the C drive, WINE configuration, and registry. < 1286579165 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ahh. < 1286579177 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why should it be per-app? < 1286579193 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because sometimes you need to do funky stuff to get a program running. < 1286579204 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Windows programs are notorious for interfering with each other. < 1286579263 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and Windows programs are effectively impossible to fully install. < 1286579289 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But, if each Windows program is in its own self-contained world, it's just a matter of rm < 1286579361 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Effectively impossible to fully uninstall? < 1286579416 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HALT at 0x98a1d1ed: Dungeon Update is missing DLLs and Manacles < 1286579556 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb < 1286579926 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Windows programs spew shit everywhere. < 1286579929 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EVERYWHERE. < 1286580069 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286580150 0 :tombom!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1286580280 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I still want to know how an arbitrary point on the Sierpiński Gasket can be identified. < 1286580367 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Magic. < 1286580371 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And kittens. < 1286580610 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the limit of a series of Hanoi coin flips < 1286580617 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or however that works < 1286580629 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I realize this is circular for your goal! Ha! < 1286580652 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Hanoi#Graphical_representation < 1286580665 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look upon the graph, ye mighty, and despair. < 1286580696 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oh -- I thought it was the random thing you were doing < 1286580720 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea whatsoever how this might be accomplished < 1286580765 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I doubt there is a way to identify a point in an infinitely detailed structure without giving an infinite "path" < 1286580783 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, define "infinitely detailed"? < 1286580784 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :either up, or down, depending on how you build the gasket, as we discussed (sort of) < 1286580787 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Self similar? < 1286580790 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: it's a fractal < 1286580799 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no point at which you can't zoom in < 1286580817 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case, I think identification might be easy enough with an infinite stream of trits. < 1286580829 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is pretty much what I just said. < 1286580842 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, could be bits, from what I understand < 1286580864 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, has to be trits, since the repeating unit is repeated 3 times. < 1286580882 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you start at one of the corners, then flip a coin, then move to halfway between the corner you were just on, and one of the other two corners (becomes the new "corner you're on"), you approach the gasket. < 1286580883 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, infinity is easily worked around. < 1286580896 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I read this in a magazine once. < 1286580902 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it must be true. < 1286580907 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And I must be remembering it correctly. < 1286580909 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the Chaos Game. < 1286580912 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1286580935 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you only need bits -- the series of flips in an infinite Chaos game -- to identify a point. < 1286580949 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, because the random selection is of a corner < 1286580957 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So you need 3 choices. < 1286580964 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Isn't it one of the corners you're not currently on? < 1286580975 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could easily be misremembering that part. < 1286581114 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think you are. < 1286581166 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My algorithm was more or less "number each subtriangle, select the one corresponding to the current trit, lather, rinse, repeat." < 1286581241 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which is more or less the floating-point of Sierpiński representation. < 1286581349 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: you do realise an infinite stream of bits = an infinite stream of trits, right? < 1286581366 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise, yes, but trits are nicer for Sierpiński. < 1286581385 0 :Slereah!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/trit/tit < 1286581410 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i was gonna make that joke, also you forgot the closing / < 1286581413 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1286581420 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ofc R^2 has all the points inside, it just has a lot of points outside too :) < 1286581441 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, bits are nicer for R^2. < 1286581471 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So taking C to be pairs of reals, quarter-imaginary is the logical equivalent of binary. < 1286581504 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slereah: Phantom_Hoover wouldn't know about the tit positioning of the sierpinski triangle anyway, being a gay vampire and all < 1286581545 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot never lies < 1286581546 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: or use integer arithmetic. chicken performs *much* faster with fixnum optimizations. < 1286581588 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^style europarl < 1286581588 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Selected style: europarl (European Parliament speeches during approx. 1996-2006) < 1286581592 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot, speak. < 1286581594 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes, indeed. in fact, extremely difficult and sometimes tragic summer that we have a responsibility, although by a small oligarchy that is cut off from any hope of access even to the persecution of all political decision-makers. all this serves to enrich and complete the picture, we must take account of the new developments in the balkans. < 1286582026 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Do you read Irregular Webcomic? < 1286582030 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Webcomic! ? < 1286582038 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do indeed. < 1286582075 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I do, but sporadically (irregular, one might say); I'm thinking about reading it. From #1. To present day. < 1286582082 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tell me how crazy I am! < 1286582084 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did that. < 1286582098 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did it a year ago, but that's not too big a difference. < 1286582121 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :I have nice flowers! They even talk! But I want to win a big spider! | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D < 1286582139 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, doesn't everyone archive binge when they find an interesting webcomic? < 1286582151 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see. If it takes me seven seconds to read, digest, laugh at, and read and digest the annotations of, and then go on to the comic after, one single comic -- a ridiculously low estimate, most likely -- then it'd take five and a half hours, without breaks, to read all the comics. And that's if I did it all before the next comic is posted. < 1286582155 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Methinks it is a multiple-day endeavour. < 1286582166 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I do when there aren't 2812 freakin' stripts! < 1286582169 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*strips < 1286582189 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There were 2414 when I went through them! < 1286582192 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once tried to archive-binge User Friendly. I think I covered about five years or something. < 1286582195 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, give or take. < 1286582205 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: HOW < 1286582213 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I had faulty humour receptors. < 1286582226 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I once calculated that on Archive Binge's highest setting, it would take 333 days to read all of Schlock Mercenary. < 1286582227 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But as long as we're confessing, I archive-binged Sluggy Freelance once. < 1286582236 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sluggy -- isn't that the one written by a Mormon? < 1286582251 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or was that Schlock Mercenary? < 1286582257 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alise: It's possible. I don't track the religious beliefs of webcomic authors. < 1286582261 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :God, who even cares about all these shitty comics. < 1286582271 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Mormons are a bit weirder than pure religion :) < 1286582279 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Produced Twilight, too! I'm sure that book commits all kinds of sins. < 1286582282 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like "don't be awful". < 1286582287 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :religious+ beliefs, then < 1286582301 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twilight evidently deserves to be an SCP. < 1286582305 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep, missionary < 1286582309 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Twilight is some sick shit < 1286582315 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could deal with plain mormon, but I hate missionaries with a fiery passion. < 1286582336 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't believe for a second that Meyer wrote down her erotic vampire dreams. < 1286582353 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Matz was a Mormon missionary, which makes me sad as he's a really nice guy. < 1286582360 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thankfully, I don't like Ruby nearly as much as I used to, so it's no issue! < 1286582368 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's clearly insidiously crafted to worm its way into teenage girls' minds. < 1286582369 0 :augur!~augur@208-59-167-26.c3-0.slvr-ubr1.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1286582372 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally, she dictated them to her mother, who wrote them down < 1286582392 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isn't larry wall something too? < 1286582394 0 :alise!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Naked.