< 1293840031 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1293840390 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Happy New Year for REAL! < 1293840419 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, my view of the Edinburgh fireworks was completely spoilt by a church in the way. < 1293840459 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I shall have to consult with the local branch of Al Qaeda. to have it removed. < 1293840474 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTE TO MI5: I DO NOT REALLY INTEND TO DO THIS < 1293840502 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :al qaeda demolition services < 1293840519 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NODE TO MI5: Phantom_Hoover JUST TOLD ME HE REALLY INTENDS TO DO THIS < 1293840522 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PLEASE MONITOR THIS COMMUNICATION < 1293840531 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TERRORIST CHILD PORNOGRAPHY BOMB BOMB 9/11 AMERICAN BASTARDS CAPITALISM < 1293840533 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REVENGE < 1293840535 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALLAH < 1293840538 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*NOTE < 1293840565 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTE TO MI5: ELLIOTT IS A MENTAL PATIENT AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED < 1293840586 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :terrorist child pornography bombs are all the rage < 1293841244 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOTE TO MI5: HEY GUYS, I'M IN THE US < 1293841436 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1293841498 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooooooo < 1293841500 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :drunk < 1293841505 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1293841520 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaaaaa < 1293841521 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sober < 1293841546 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just spoke with thomas from trontheim via phone < 1293841551 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*d < 1293841554 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he's sooooo drunk < 1293841563 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trondhein* < 1293841568 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*m < 1293841569 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trondheim* < 1293841578 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shut up oerjan, i know < 1293841583 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tromdein < 1293841837 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :▜▘ ▄ ▄ ▌▗ ▄ ▗▘▛▖▗ ▖▖▐ ▚ ▗▖▗▖▖▖▝ ▄ ▟▖ ▗▖▗ ▖▖ ▟▖▌ ▝ ▗▖ < 1293841837 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :▐ ▛▌▄▌▞▌▛▘ ▄▌ ▐ ▛ ▛▘▛ ▐ ▐ ▘▖▌ ▛ ▐ ▙▘▐ ▙ ▌▌▛ ▐ ▛▖▐ ▘▖ < 1293841837 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :▀▘ ▘▘▀▘▝▘▝▘ ▀▘ ▘▘ ▝▘▘ ▘▘ ▀ ▝▘▘ ▝ ▌ ▘ ▘ ▝ ▘ ▘▘▘▝ ▀ ▝ < 1293841846 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :int main(int ac, char **av) < 1293841847 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :{ < 1293841847 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define typedef < 1293841849 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define uint8_t a[printf("hello world\n")] < 1293841851 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#include < 1293841852 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :} < 1293841855 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ lol what < 1293841857 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is the most beautiful thing ever < 1293841863 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Translation? < 1293841896 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I made a (Perl) script for this." It's readable even in the logs if you just manually swomp your browser into an UTF-8 frenzy. < 1293841945 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how does it work? < 1293841956 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: That C program? < 1293841975 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The line in stdint.h looks like "typedef unsigned char uint8_t;". < 1293841986 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Of course, depending on this is LOL NO, especially as .hs don't even have to be written in C technically. < 1293841992 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: No, it isn't. < 1293841999 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think some of my chars are non-monospaced. < 1293842013 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. Well, that's a shamey. < 1293842030 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess the space might not be spaced like the Unicode block-drawing ones, but that's just weird. < 1293842046 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think there is a specific "block-drawing space". < 1293842070 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1293842071 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1293842986 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qbG0zi9ZeE (don't watch this :P) < 1293843132 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : #define uint8_t a[printf("hello world\n")] <--- ....... wow < 1293843149 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: wow you look different < 1293843159 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NORLY? :P < 1293843165 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ten years does a lot to a man :P < 1293843175 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Esp. when they're the years of 14-24 < 1293843176 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: yeah like make him not suck at making music OH SNAP < 1293843182 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1293843183 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that depends a LOT on what exactly stdint.h does on that given system < 1293843183 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ok question why are you dressed all normally and shit < 1293843188 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: where is the pink man < 1293843189 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHERE IS THE PINK < 1293843191 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I mean, exactly how it is implemented < 1293843192 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Ten years does a lot to a man :P < 1293843201 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I THOUGHT YOU WERE GREGOR FROM THE MOMENT YOU WERE BORN < 1293843202 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sheesh < 1293843231 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good thing i'm 15, i can totally preempt all my 24-year-old-self's objections to current me and reverse them, I'VE GOT IT ALL FIGURED OUT (<-- note: same words that probably went through Gregor's head at the time :P) < 1293843252 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no objections to 14-yr-old me :P < 1293843271 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He just happens to be a different person is all. < 1293843298 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: EXCUSE ME, he is NOT wearing ANY pink at ALL? < 1293843312 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I mean HELLO? < 1293843315 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, different person. < 1293843321 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: WORST PERSON? < 1293843330 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU ARE THE WORST PERSON < 1293843335 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Man, I just realised that talking to you instantly turns me into T-Rex. < 1293843343 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think that is because you are T-Rex. < 1293843399 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qbG0zi9ZeE (don't watch this :P) <-- quite nice < 1293843411 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :though you developed a lot since then < 1293843453 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, where was that? < 1293843464 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I have noooooooooo idea :P < 1293843469 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and seems you already liked to compose music that takes some effort to listen to) < 1293843538 0 :Wamanuz3!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1293843560 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you were right < 1293843570 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm drunk as f*******\ < 1293843572 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, how comes you didn't become a professional composer instead? < 1293843588 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Because I'm a far better computer scientist. < 1293843605 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think Gregor does not make the best music < 1293843606 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, then you must be really good at that! < 1293843610 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soorry Gregor < 1293843617 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Case in point :P < 1293843629 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw Pink Floyd did < 1293843639 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, you don't like classical I guess? < 1293843647 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like classical < 1293843660 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like almost every kind of music < 1293843668 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm, true I would not say Gregor's work is classical < 1293843676 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather, modernistic < 1293843686 0 :Wamanuz2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1293843692 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently I time travel. < 1293843693 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHO KNEW. < 1293843697 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb, have to walk to the gas station to buy cigs < 1293843701 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, what < 1293843713 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, well, neo-classical in /style/ < 1293843718 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1293843722 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer "neo-romantic" < 1293843726 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I think defining it by when it was made is silly < 1293843772 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, why: because it breaks down for that is often called "baroque music" (which is really not a single style) < 1293843797 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you get neo- a lot < 1293843823 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, anyway your music is not really romantic < 1293843857 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, too much dissonance for it. Maaaybe neo-"late romantic" < 1293843876 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: still here < 1293843878 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1293843984 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at greg, i play electric guitar alot < 1293843999 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i can't play any. whole song < 1293844030 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just improvise in major and minor penatatonic scales < 1293844057 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and septimal* eee i don't know if * this is good word in english < 1293844058 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1293844069 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but my gr is playing piano as well < 1293844081 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gf* < 1293844099 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ignore me, wait 30*60 s < 1293844193 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :food -> < 1293844414 0 :Wamanuz4!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1293844484 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, half an hour? < 1293844490 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, WHAT < 1293844493 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, food now!? < 1293844505 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course < 1293844517 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, ... lunch or just some snaks? < 1293844519 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snaks* < 1293844522 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snacks* < 1293844523 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: you know that oerjan operates on a 25-hour schedule < 1293844526 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(like harry potter!*) < 1293844531 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(*according to Yudkowsky canon) < 1293844534 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i haven't eaten a proper meal for nearly six hours < 1293844542 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, well and? < 1293844543 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not so much 25-hour schedule < 1293844549 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as oerjan's body is convinced that days last 25 hours < 1293844553 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did have some snacks though < 1293844555 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and, accordingly, sleeps at the same time every 25-hour day < 1293844567 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: my doctor thinks melatonin may be a good idea < 1293844567 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. one hour forwards in the blatantly incorrect 24-hour day system < 1293844582 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: great to hear < 1293844590 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, my body thinks it is 25.5 hours, but I keep ending up resetting it all the time < 1293844603 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well mostly all the time < 1293844604 0 :Wamanuz3!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 264 seconds < 1293844640 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: according to the highly reliable internets, btw, 1.5 mg is a good dose and lasts about an hour to kick in < 1293844643 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just call me mr. doctor < 1293844643 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well something is wrong with my resetting < 1293844655 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most sites selling it i've seen recommend rather higher dosages < 1293844659 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i rather suspect a doctor might too < 1293844662 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, mine is failing atm, due to holidays < 1293844663 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thanks pharma companies *tinfoil hat* :) < 1293844670 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(for obvious reasons) < 1293844678 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, melatonin, what does that do now again < 1293844684 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: makes you sleep. < 1293844686 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah < 1293844728 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wasn't there something similar-named that had something to do with getting brown when being in the sun? < 1293844732 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(skin that is) < 1293844761 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. < 1293844769 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I've forgotten what it is :-P < 1293844777 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, same... < 1293844832 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, Vorpal, melanin. < 1293844844 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wow, check the various boxes below http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin#External_links < 1293844847 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is absurd < 1293844851 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ah thanks < 1293844861 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Melatonin is in TiHKAL? X-D < 1293844878 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I meant the boxes below that < 1293844904 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was just remarking. < 1293844917 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: TiHKAL is actually the second-last box, anyway. < 1293844930 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://isomerdesign.com/PiHKAL/read.php?domain=tk&id=35 Anyone wanna try the recipe? :-P < 1293844935 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what is tihkal? < 1293844947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i wonder if i'll end up buying it from the internet, it's rather expensive says my doctor and a bit of googling seems to imply it isn't covered by the norwegian medical expenses cap < 1293844980 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: tryptamines i have known and loved, sequel to PiHKAL. drug stuff. < 1293844996 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: It's expensive? < 1293845003 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he's full of shit -- it's incredibly cheap on the interwebs at least < 1293845006 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that's from reputable sites < 1293845007 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*she < 1293845012 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm sorry < 1293845057 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: well i assume this is from a norwegian pharmacy, and moreover she may be referring to the fact it's not subsidized < 1293845073 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right. i assume you guys have "herbal stores" and the likes there? < 1293845076 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like holland and barrett < 1293845079 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sell tons of supplements and crap < 1293845092 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can either find it in those or the internet equivalents of those, for $nothing < 1293845107 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :failing even /that/ (which I doubt) you could import it from http://melatonin.com/ i guess, but the shipping is going to be non-zero < 1293845169 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, there are herbal stores, including some pharmacies (i noticed one the other day advertising homeopathic remedies) < 1293845203 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah. there's no real point in getting it from a pharmacy if it's considered a health supplement, not a drug, which it is just about everywhere < 1293845207 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :otoh if melatonin is registered as a medical drug then it is unlikely to be legal for non-pharmacies to sell it here < 1293845220 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I doubt it is -- Wikipedia says it is in the UK and it's _not_ < 1293845229 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can find it on tons of (reputable enough) herbal online stores < 1293845234 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*online herbal < 1293845238 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(only a few very common drugs are allowed to sell in ordinary shops) < 1293845254 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: well it's likely not considered a drug. < 1293845260 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just a supplement. < 1293845260 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and even that is a relatively new change) < 1293845267 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g. in america it's a "dietary supplement". < 1293845415 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION googles
< 1293845440 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: can you make oklopol come back?? < 1293845447 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i want to tell him that Phantom_Hoover totally got his 2d physics working < 1293845454 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, go to Finland and make him come back. < 1293845456 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1293845462 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh, he knows about gravity. < 1293845467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well get the other parts working < 1293845477 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes do it. actually do you have his phone number. just call him and yell at him. < 1293845480 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, angular momentum? < 1293845480 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :act drunk (or get drunk first) < 1293845486 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: LOCALISED PHYSICS DISTORTIONS < 1293845498 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: say #ESOTERIC AND ABANDON AND < 1293845505 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do the needful < 1293845515 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, that could slot nicely into my existing classes for masses. < 1293845529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Classes for masses. < 1293845531 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1293845536 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best nomenclature EVER < 1293845542 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make angular-mass a subclass of point-mass, add some extra stuff. < 1293845545 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Bear in mind that Amber doesn't have any classes, though :-P < 1293845553 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, no CLOS? < 1293845554 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1293845566 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Why not add an angular-stuff field to point-mass, that can be NULL? < 1293845573 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Substitute appropriate nothing-value for NULL.) < 1293845579 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Or how about making all point-masses angular-masses? < 1293845597 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because I'd like to be able to make bullets point-masses. < 1293845621 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm tempted to say that bullets should bypass physics altogether and just have their movement hardcoded. < 1293845627 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since there could be thousands of them at any one time. < 1293845663 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :re < 1293845673 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have cigs and beer < 1293845682 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;et's continue < 1293845689 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :l* < 1293845691 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but curve shots around planets! < 1293845754 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Have you got polygon collision yet? < 1293845766 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I've done basically nothing! < 1293845769 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION does not have oklopol's phone number
< 1293845783 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, use your mathematician powers to calculate it! < 1293845792 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@CPE001b115db0ae-CM0018c0c24ffc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1293845815 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Do polygon collision :P < 1293845844 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I have not the STRENGTH < 1293845844 0 :Wamanuz5!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1293845849 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :< < 1293845850 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: :{ < 1293845852 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: pweeze < 1293845859 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1293845863 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :googling suggests that melatonin requires a prescription in norway < 1293845890 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ;( < 1293845919 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, QUITE < 1293845942 0 :Wamanuz4!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1293845986 0 :Wamanuz5!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1293846034 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1293846060 0 :Wamanuz5!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1293846077 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1293846206 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1293846274 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, so ask the doctor then? < 1293846312 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i did mention it < 1293846350 0 :Wamanuz5!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1293846382 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: if you ever want to see Asteroids II out you better code polygon collision >:) < 1293846382 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes I mean ask again if you need a prescription < 1293846393 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it is too late < 1293846395 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, can't you do it? < 1293846407 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: tomorrow then! < 1293846408 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i'm lazy < 1293846412 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i already have to write a compiler for this < 1293846502 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it seems like melatonin is falling a bit between the cracks in norway, simply by not being properly registered there. you can get it but it's more complicated and unsubsidized. < 1293846518 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it is tomorrow already < 1293846522 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just import it from the us >:) < 1293846577 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, see note about prescription. I doubt importing it is legal then < 1293846596 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hear that? The police are gonna get you for drug smuggling. < 1293846601 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"...found with whole GRAMS of melatonin..." < 1293846637 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1293846650 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why do you always exaggerate everything < 1293846676 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess it's unregistered because it's natural and therefore unpatentable... < 1293846676 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I'm trying to demonstrate that importing melatonin being illegal is completely irrelevant as no non-ridiculous response could be taken. < 1293846703 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, they'd be incriminating oerjan for importing something harmless that's ALREADY INSIDE HIS BODY. < 1293846741 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, by that logic DMT should be okay everywhere, since the human body naturally have traces of DMT < 1293846747 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i suspect if i got a prescription first i could legally import it < 1293846754 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I see no issue with that statement < 1293846757 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that would be sane, at least < 1293846775 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm < 1293846791 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, indeed. But that is not the case < 1293846797 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, importing poop would be kind of weird :P < 1293846798 0 :Wamanuz2!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1293846808 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No, but you can't get high off melatonin :P < 1293846927 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well why is it in that tihkal then? < 1293846952 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Who knows? The entry just talks about it being unclear whether it's effective for sleep or not, going by WP's link. < 1293846964 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1293846965 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not solely a book to get high off, unless I'm sorely mistaken :P < 1293846968 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 272 seconds < 1293846970 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(INHALIN' PAPER) < 1293846980 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, :D < 1293847028 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, melatonin is a tryptamine with interesting properties, thus explaining its presence. < 1293847068 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but does it involve lipase amylase and trypsin? < 1293847078 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they gonna help with my digestion < 1293847148 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY DOESN'T MY SHELL WORK < 1293847183 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what about insulin, glucagon, coming from the islets of langerhans? < 1293847185 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: fix my shell ok < 1293847242 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: give me root ssh < 1293847252 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nou < 1293847257 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think the mmap might be failing or something < 1293847460 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf@@this < 1293847799 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hey < 1293847809 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi augur < 1293847820 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/etw3g/problem_boole_comparisons_in_php/c1awit4 < 1293847822 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4u < 1293847837 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: lol depends < 1293847841 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it does! < 1293847853 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it depends on what the other things are! < 1293847869 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I have a better table < 1293847872 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: I will express it in html < 1293847872 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1293847877 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no! < 1293847883 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :use your css! < 1293847883 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :D: < 1293847887 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's a table, doofus < 1293847893 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooooooo ~#@_@#~ < 1293847897 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i know im just being a dick < 1293847918 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur:

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< 1293847923 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the important point tho is the conversation with kamatsu < 1293847933 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: tada, a perfect description of a (properly-implemented) equality function in Haskell! < 1293847937 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :assuming all Eq classes are done right that is < 1293847938 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :true ;) < 1293847944 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :technically x can == y < 1293847951 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but only if x is indistinguishable from y /outside/ the module < 1293847952 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it can indeed! < 1293847954 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if x == y < 1293847956 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it's x == x from outside < 1293847956 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1293847959 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: shut up :) < 1293847961 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;D < 1293847963 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: ok new table < 1293847966 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : x < 1293847968 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :x (x==x) < 1293847970 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1293847973 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : x < 1293847973 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lolol < 1293847975 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y (x==y) < 1293847977 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PERFECT TABLE < 1293847980 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the convo with kamatsu is the important bit < 1293848006 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: meh, mere misunderstanding :P < 1293848012 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not really < 1293848023 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he originally said it compared forall a. (Eq a) => a < 1293848026 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is also false < 1293848047 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the point is that (==) only compares two things of the same type < 1293848065 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and he said it could compare bool to string if you wanted < 1293848074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1293848076 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is false, without some major magic < 1293848104 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but god damn if that little ascii table didnt get me some karma < 1293848236 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one thing i fucking love about haskell is (G)ADTs < 1293848248 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i love that i can define new atomic values out of nothing < 1293848253 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1293848259 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and theres no possibility of misusing them as some other type < 1293848270 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awesome < 1293848296 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :enums are nice and all, but the fact that they're usually just another name for an int is a problem < 1293848323 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1293848334 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, obviously you could do atomic values as ints and shit, but the type system enforces the opacity < 1293848336 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and OO languages typically add too much baggage to ADTs < 1293848343 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1293848365 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean, i like OO for some reasons, but GADTs and type classes are sexy < 1293848414 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OO style for certain things is quite appealing. < 1293848427 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1293848435 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :list functions, for instance < 1293848454 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm? < 1293848489 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i much prefer xs { |x| x.odd? }.map { |x| x ** 2 } over map (**2) (filter odd xs) < 1293848503 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er.. xs.filter { ... < 1293848530 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tho i'd prefer if i could do xs.filter(odd?).map(**2) < 1293848535 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: that's just concatenative :) < 1293848537 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that perl 6? < 1293848542 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruby < 1293848546 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1293848558 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, i know, i just like the style of having Collection Method PRoc < 1293848564 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rather than Method Proc Collection < 1293848578 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: true. currying gets ugly though. < 1293848585 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know < 1293848587 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :admittedly you can say .filter(odd?) in a platonically perfect language < 1293848588 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but still < 1293848588 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think in haskell theres a reverse apply isnt there? < 1293848589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's less pure < 1293848592 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like $ but backwards? < 1293848594 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: sure, "flip" :P < 1293848599 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, i think there is < 1293848603 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: APL? < 1293848605 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah yeah but i think theres a built in flip ($) < 1293848609 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets call it $$ < 1293848624 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and lets say its left associative < 1293848629 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously: xs $$ filter odd $$ map (**2) < 1293848642 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → sleep
< 1293848645 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so haskell doesnt make this style impossible < 1293848653 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: what about APL? < 1293848658 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is all the more reason to fuckin love haskell < 1293848660 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: nothing built in, maybe in a module < 1293848660 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1293848665 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: haskell's type system is bad :) < 1293848669 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: whatever. its easily definable, anyway < 1293848671 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: bad how < 1293848710 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you can probably do .filter(odd?).map(**2) in APL, except it would be 5 characters long < 1293848728 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: too restricting < 1293848734 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i think Perl 6 actually does allow .filter(odd?).map({* ** 2}) < 1293848736 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: i can probably do that in J < 1293848737 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: probably 6 < 1293848742 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: don't need that {} do you? < 1293848743 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it doesn't, it certainly ought to < 1293848746 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: maybe not < 1293848747 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: restriction in what fashion? < 1293848752 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. restricting** < 1293848754 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: compare to Coq's < 1293848758 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dont know coqs < 1293848759 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm not up-to-date in Perl 6 < 1293848760 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a middle-ground is probably nicest for actual programming) < 1293848763 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: then i can't explain sry < 1293848765 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its dependently typed tho isnt it? < 1293848767 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1293848774 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well there you go < 1293848779 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's more than that though < 1293848790 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :any type system that isnt itself a turing complete programming language is too restricted to you, isnt it? < 1293848790 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1293848799 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: um Coq's type system is sub-TC < 1293848801 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and so is Coq itself < 1293848804 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh is it? < 1293848811 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i thought dependent types are TC < 1293848814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: yes, otherwise _|_ would prove any proposition < 1293848817 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1293848822 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or is it only _some_ DT systems < 1293848838 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: well with dependent types your type system basically becomes a special part of your value system < 1293848844 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so if you use your TC language to do it, yes, it becomes TC < 1293848845 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1293848851 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you have nonterminating _types_, ho ho, good luck wit hthat < 1293848852 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*with that < 1293848856 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :meh. anyway < 1293848861 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Agda is also sub-TC unless you tell it not to be, when it becoems inconsistent < 1293848866 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ive never gotten into the traditional theorem provers < 1293848879 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coq is really nice. you'd like it < 1293848880 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :insert cock joke < 1293848900 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i say it like caulk, so < 1293848915 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or like the kidlings on the chans say cock: cawk < 1293848967 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :kidlings :D < 1293848987 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: well map **2 is just foo^2 < 1293849014 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets see, surely we can figure this apl shit out < 1293849022 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno how to filter odd though :) < 1293849027 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: J not apl < 1293849033 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :same thing < 1293849037 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. < 1293849038 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :really not. < 1293849046 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, but thats not the point < 1293849056 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, is-odd in j is just < 1293849077 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0=2|n < 1293849080 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1293849082 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0<2|n < 1293849088 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that's not the best way to filter by odd. < 1293849091 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1293849094 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stop knowing j < 1293849109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait foo^2 isn't actually map(^2) < 1293849110 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so i get that 2|n is two divides n < 1293849111 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you'd want hmm < 1293849115 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but that should be boolean < 1293849119 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo(^"1)2 < 1293849121 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so whats the 0 2 | n in some other language? < 1293849197 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ursala < 1293849199 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah < 1293849201 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is it actually foo^2, or do you need to do some fancy foo<<^2? < 1293849207 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: 2|n is n mod 2 < 1293849218 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: we want map ^2 right? < 1293849221 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: then it's foo^2 in j. < 1293849222 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yeah < 1293849222 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right but is it a lambda or is it a value? < 1293849225 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh in j < 1293849228 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was thinking Perl 6 < 1293849236 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: who cares, we're doing j now < 1293849239 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has some syntax for turning a scalar operation into a vector one < 1293849244 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, sure about the spelling? google is unhelpful < 1293849245 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: um is "n mod 2" a lambda? :) < 1293849247 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get you < 1293849255 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cause in Functional JS you can do shit like xs.map("x*2") and itll convert "x*2" into the lambda \x -> x*2 < 1293849255 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: will find example < 1293849264 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=ursala+language&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=i5IeTeb1EpO6hAf074i3Dg#hl=en&client=safari&pwst=1&rls=en&sa=X&ei=i5IeTaaIGIyIhQfnvIS3Dg&ved=0CBUQvgUoAA&q=ursala+language&nfpr=1&fp=733b49addeb556 < 1293849272 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because x is a variable that isnt bound < 1293849273 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: you have to realise that in J there are no "lambdas" < 1293849283 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: if you give an "incomplete" expression, it just becomes a box < 1293849285 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok so there are no such things at all < 1293849288 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and you can apply boxes to things < 1293849288 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok < 1293849292 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: there are, it just usurps them all :) < 1293849295 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dontknow shit about j, really < 1293849298 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e.g., wait, lemme download j to demonstrate < 1293849300 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whats a box < 1293849315 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, where in there? "Ursula Bellugi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" first hit, Lots of non-programming hits < 1293849317 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh oh OH THERE IS A J BETA OUT OMG < 1293849326 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: tell it you don't mean urusula. < 1293849328 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see the top bar < 1293849329 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ursula < 1293849334 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it's a thing. < 1293849338 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, aha < 1293849342 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1293849350 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aint nothin but a j thang < 1293849358 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid google < 1293849359 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[701 J Engine (JE - J Language implementation) changes are incremental and compatible. < 1293849359 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :701 J Front End (JFE) changes are revolutionary! < 1293849359 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Previously the primary JFE was based on Jsoftware's proprietary WD (window driver). WD was built on Windows API and was refined and polished over more than 15 years. And for 10 years Unix users had a WD Java port. < 1293849360 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :701 abandons WD. There is risk as WD was a mature product central in so many ways to J. The replacements are as far from polished as only software version 1 can be. < 1293849362 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With your patience and contributions we believe the rough will soon be polished and WD will be just a fond memory. One significant difference is that WD was a closed and proprietary system implemented in C++ and Java. The new JFE's are open and are implemented in J and based on open products and industry standards. < 1293849364 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :]] < 1293849366 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg < 1293849368 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this beta is my new girlfriend < 1293849371 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: why does ursala look like line noise? < 1293849376 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott? girlfriend? hahaha < 1293849379 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: ursala is terrible, do not discuss it < 1293849384 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also stop laughing :| J LOVES ME < 1293849391 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first is JHS (J HTTP Server) where a browser is the front end. The browser is a powerful front end that has considerable advantages. Almost by definition it is familiar to all users and is the most completely cross platform. With html, css, ajax, and javascript it is a rich environment. It would be a mistake to continue to ignore the focus of resources and users on the browser as the window on the world. J701 lets your browser be < 1293849391 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your window on J, as well as on everything else. < 1293849391 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The second is JGTK which is based on the GTK+ portable library for creating graphical user interfaces. This is on the bleeding edge of what is possible and will allow the ultimate in power user tools and applications. < 1293849392 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay gtk < 1293849395 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wait i'm on os x < 1293849396 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, it was the "girl" part < 1293849399 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NAY GTK < 1293849409 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i'm not gay. sorry. :p < 1293849426 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know you're not. if you were it wouldnt be fun to joke about < 1293849452 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh jesus you're right about ursala < 1293849459 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :choices = ^(iota@r,~&l); leql@a^& ~&al?\&! ~&arh2fabt2RDfalrtPXPRT < 1293849468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it's crazily-designed, too < 1293849471 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ask ais about it sometime < 1293849476 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, to me, it only looks slightly more noisy than J code :P < 1293849490 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i know you're not. if you were it wouldnt be fun to joke about < 1293849490 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thats why elliott hates it < 1293849492 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes it would < 1293849494 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaa < 1293849496 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see for example: you < 1293849496 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaa < 1293849498 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaa < 1293849499 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaa < 1293849500 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaa < 1293849502 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa < 1293849503 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aww elliott < 1293849503 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: stfu < 1293849503 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1293849503 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still drunk? < 1293849505 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa < 1293849507 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa < 1293849510 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1293849511 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no he sobered up in 30 minutes < 1293849511 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(@ nooga) < 1293849512 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1293849515 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's 2011 < 1293849517 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooo < 1293849520 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ... body doesn't work like that < 1293849521 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but parody my own sexuality so < 1293849528 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sexuality < 1293849530 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my gf < 1293849532 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaaaa < 1293849533 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaa < 1293849534 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: then why ask < 1293849536 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa < 1293849538 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa < 1293849541 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a < 1293849542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think nooga's gf just told him she's a lesbian < 1293849544 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aa < 1293849546 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaa < 1293849548 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaaaa < 1293849551 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no :D < 1293849551 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, shut up < 1293849553 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wouldnt he be masturbating then? < 1293849564 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::f < 1293849565 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1293849565 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this channel, SO MATURE, you guys! < 1293849586 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :she told me that she's more kinki tht i thought she is < 1293849588 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1293849589 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes when augur, you, and some 90% of the other people are here :P < 1293849596 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott is SO MATURE < 1293849603 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: do tell < 1293849614 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GUYS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT *MY* GIRLFRIEND, THAT IS, J < 1293849615 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I mean, me, olsner, fizzie. And perhaps a handful of other. Then it is mature :P < 1293849625 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: hear that, Vorpal just called you mature < 1293849628 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Java? < 1293849632 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: no, J, faggot < 1293849638 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, compared to you :P < 1293849639 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :J like Java < 1293849648 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott-Hirds-MacBook-Air:~ ehird$ /Applications/j701/bin/jgtk.command ; exit; < 1293849648 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|control error: script < 1293849648 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :| 3 :0'' < 1293849649 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :|[-7] /Applications/j701/addons/gui/gtk/gtk.ijs < 1293849651 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAAAT ISSS THISSSSS < 1293849651 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: In Perl 6, @foo[bar] is syntactic sugar for @foo.[bar] < 1293849659 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1293849660 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: you're syntactic sugar lol < 1293849666 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is this shit < 1293849667 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Elliott-Hirds-MacBook-Air ... what a hostname < 1293849668 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck perl < 1293849669 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :god damn < 1293849672 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: that's the default hostname :D < 1293849673 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that error is... weird? < 1293849677 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: yep! < 1293849686 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ive started coding in C# < 1293849687 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it has way too much whitespace for J < 1293849691 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: i haven't figured out what to change it to yet, i kinda like Elliott-Hirds-MacBook-Air, it's just so silly < 1293849697 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my prompts have never been longer < 1293849701 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i know :D , my mac was Marcin gasperowicz's MacBook pro < 1293849710 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :G* < 1293849717 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i am so glad i don't have a really long name < 1293849719 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I hate when prompts wrap though < 1293849728 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :John-Jacob-Jingleheimer-Schmidts-MacBook-Air < 1293849729 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and that is a risk for you < 1293849739 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :his name is my name toooo < 1293849743 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: better than Darryl-McAdamss-MacBook-Pro < 1293849748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: McAdamss hahahaha < 1293849750 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1293849759 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, is that a real example < 1293849761 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1293849764 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's his name, so yes < 1293849767 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wtf my ? key is glitchy < 1293849769 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well no, but it would be if it were stupid enough to use my full name < 1293849772 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: what happens if you're japanese, do you get a utf-8 hostname < 1293849778 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it replace it all with dashes < 1293849784 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-----------MacBook-Pro < 1293849788 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry < 1293849789 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it could punycode it? < 1293849794 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :----------s-MacBook-Pro < 1293849797 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dareru-makkuadamuzu-no-makkubukku-purou < 1293849803 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: KAWAII < 1293849805 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :.. makkadamuzu* < 1293849811 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yeah that error, so important < 1293849813 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thx for correctation < 1293849815 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is! < 1293849821 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I SUGGEST punycode! < 1293849823 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually i am that stupid < 1293849823 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck me < 1293849827 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :darryl-mcadamss-macbook-pro:~ darryl$ < 1293849834 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i should fix this shit < 1293849846 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: set your hostname to "fag" < 1293849866 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1293849875 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use mythical creatures. phoenix, dragon, pegasus and so on. < 1293849875 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok i think j is almost working < 1293849882 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(also tux is grandfathered in) < 1293849891 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tux is pretty mythical < 1293849893 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah tux isn't mythical < 1293849894 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha snap < 1293849900 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I SEE TUX ALL THE TIME < 1293849910 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :doesnt make him not mythical < 1293849921 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i mean irl < 1293849922 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :duh < 1293849924 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just makes him ... THE STUFF OF LEGENDS < 1293849935 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you couldn't find tux on Middle earth :P < 1293849954 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: speaking of restrictive type systems, C#'s piss-poor type system pisses me off < 1293849964 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to define fold just for fun < 1293849966 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cant do it < 1293849966 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you could find dragons, and while no phoenix or pegasus are recorded by Tolkin afaik they would fit right in, < 1293849968 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :type error < 1293849972 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/,$/./ < 1293849972 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: fatg < 1293849990 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry what < 1293849993 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let's all get drunk and write PPC assembly < 1293849998 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, couldn't you do it with a generic class? < 1293850002 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON WHY NOT < 1293850004 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: how do you mean < 1293850012 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: are you allowed to get drunk yet < 1293850016 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :have you ever BEEN drunk? < 1293850017 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, something like... Folder or such? < 1293850025 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: no, but i'm also not allowed to INFRINGE COPYRIGHT < 1293850028 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, having one method. fold < 1293850029 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i do. < 1293850031 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh ok < 1293850038 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, yes this is insane. But it might just work. < 1293850039 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ITT: c# isn't java < 1293850051 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: can you tell me why steve jobs put fn next to ctrl on the macbook keyboards < 1293850051 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: ehh.. maybe. i didnt use a generic class < 1293850054 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: it is the stupidest thing ever < 1293850058 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm? C# has generic classes. < 1293850062 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it was because of a circular type of some sort < 1293850063 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It is an error to use this operator outside of a lol context; in other words it must be bound into a ** (slice) parameter rather than a * (slurpy) parameter." goddammit perl 6 < 1293850069 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I don't see why it *wouldn't* work < 1293850074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro: a lol context? :D < 1293850088 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is impossible to understand perl 6 without understanding it first < 1293850092 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :coppro, sure that isn't some INTERCAL-lolcode hybrid? < 1293850106 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: unfortunately < 1293850111 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1293850124 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Building, Bundling, and Integrating GTK+ on MacOSX is now consolidated at http://gtk-osx.sourceforge.net, where you'll find up-to-date downloads, information and support. There is a forum, a mailing list, and a tracker there. The development of the quartz backend to GTK+ remains in the GTK+ project. < 1293850127 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://gtk-osx.sourceforge.net/ jesus christ < 1293850130 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's like from fucking 2003 < 1293850135 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they're using i think panther's wallpaper < 1293850136 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on leoprad < 1293850139 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and those colours < 1293850140 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*leopard < 1293850142 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jesus christ < 1293850143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who made this site < 1293850153 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: the genericness wasnt at issue. i just defined it like.. public List