< 1294185600 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(err, was) < 1294185610 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: No such file or directory - usr/local < 1294185611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1294185629 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh maybe it doesn't extract the tgz < 1294185630 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, anyway, my point is that if you were trying to get to (100000,100000) by walking, you could make it without exerting superhuman time and effort. < 1294185643 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well that is true < 1294185649 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wonders where the Towards Dawns guy is.
< 1294185649 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed, you could walk there < 1294185651 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, not very fast though < 1294185658 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in maybe one or two real days < 1294185677 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, quite. I'd say 3 because I'm a pessimist < 1294185709 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why'd Towards Dawns end, BtW? < 1294185712 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it did?? < 1294185718 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone should make an arbitrary teleport plugin and go to the edge of the world < 1294185749 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I doubt notch tested it < 1294185757 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :server will probably crash < 1294185763 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, there hasn't been an update since forever. < 1294185780 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, that's basically the nature of the Top Secret SMP Bug. < 1294185794 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except it requires only client-side manipulation. < 1294185811 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you need to rename it to "not so very top secret" < 1294185811 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, there's a certain coordinate that crashes the world? < 1294185822 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's within walking distance for noncheaters? < 1294185823 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, no. < 1294185841 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :walking wouldn't do it < 1294185879 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, mod client to move very quickly to destination < 1294185885 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : //goto 100000 100000 is what did it, but that was elliott just banging the two largest numbers he could into the teleporter and seeing what happened. < 1294185916 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*could think of < 1294185949 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, no explorations of the edge of the world until this gets fixed? < 1294185959 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ://goto works by sending (assuming your location is (x,y,z)) location packets for (x,128,z) then (x',128,y'). < 1294185972 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, no, it's the suddenness which causes the crash. < 1294185987 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294185995 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can legitimately get there plenty off ways. < 1294186048 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Error: File exists - /usr/local/Cellar/mlton/20100608 < 1294186049 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wut < 1294186107 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: We should travel to 2^64 sometime and see if the world really wraps around. *note: terrible idea < 1294186120 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, *AWESOME < 1294186123 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why terrible idea? < 1294186128 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to go too!
< 1294186129 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Server would crash incredibly. < 1294186131 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With //goto. < 1294186136 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Walking there is ... beyond impossible. < 1294186145 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So fix the bug, then we'll go < 1294186147 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION still maintains that Minecraft takes place on a Banks Orbital.
< 1294186153 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: That would break teleportation... < 1294186157 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, even with server side goto I suspect it might crash it badly < 1294186157 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teleportation IS the bug. < 1294186162 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And all MC worlds are the *same* Orbital < 1294186163 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: probably < 1294186163 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*! < 1294186168 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE < 1294186172 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, best do it on local testing server and so on < 1294186172 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fix the bug that teleportation causes crashes, then we'll go < 1294186181 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Basically unfixable. < 1294186186 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least without hacks in the server. < 1294186187 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, different parts of same huge planet! < 1294186190 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Teleportation Should Not Work. < 1294186190 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err < 1294186192 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ^ < 1294186197 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, put hacks in the server, then we'll go < 1294186201 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FWIW: Even if you could travel 100000 a day, it would take 1.84 * 10^14 days to get to 2^64. < 1294186206 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Shut up. It is not feasible. < 1294186216 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Make it feasible. Then we'll go. < 1294186219 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, ORBITAL. < 1294186225 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes quite < 1294186227 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: There is basically no way to make it feasible. < 1294186234 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, Orbital != planet. < 1294186242 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, very true < 1294186265 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, and I suggest they share the same planet. reddit might be over at out 2^63,-1874 < 1294186269 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or such < 1294186275 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, we could never know! < 1294186293 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, OK, are you just going to verbosely repeat everything I say from now on? < 1294186296 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why? Why is it so impossible? < 1294186307 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no < 1294186328 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, OK, you s/planet/orbital/ed. < 1294186338 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s/orbital/planet/ < 1294186375 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well yes and I suggested this was feasible. Instead of that nonsense about two or more planets in same orbital < 1294186405 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, which I believe doesn't work < 1294186434 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, what the hell are you talking about. < 1294186509 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, aren't they basically the same as atomic orbitals but applied to space? I freely admit being better at small scale (atomic level) than at large scale (astronomy) < 1294186528 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well not probability defined of course < 1294186531 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, OK, you have no idea what the hell I'm going on about. < 1294186532 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(that wouldn't make much sense) < 1294186545 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_%28The_Culture%29 < 1294186557 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well you could have said < 1294186596 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did say *Banks* Orbital. < 1294186602 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which you evidently ignored. < 1294186612 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION lols.
< 1294186621 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you said " And all MC worlds are the *same* Orbital" < 1294186644 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, which line has "banks" < 1294186650 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:08 Phantom_Hoover still maintains that Minecraft takes place on a Banks Orbital. < 1294186655 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Mere seconds before. < 1294186655 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* Phantom_Hoover still maintains that Minecraft takes place on a Banks Orbital. < 1294186675 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah I see. hm I guess my ctcp filter suddely broke then < 1294186681 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can someone do a /me to test? < 1294186702 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION what are you even talking about
< 1294186716 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks Vorpal is trying to cover from an embarrassing mistake.
< 1294186722 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*recover < 1294186733 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION probably
< 1294186736 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION he's a fag
< 1294186739 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what was that correcting? < 1294186742 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION turds turds turds
< 1294186745 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll check log < 1294186746 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION FAGGOTRON MCTURDITURD
< 1294186748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION oh darn
< 1294186750 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yaaaaay, he can't see us!
< 1294186751 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION NO DON'T
< 1294186753 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION TURN BACK
< 1294186756 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION DARKNESS WILL ENVELOP YOU
< 1294186759 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION dammit, he's smarter than he looks..
< 1294186763 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION no he's not
< 1294186766 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah apparently it is broken. Sigh I'll have to fix it. < 1294186766 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION turdy turdy turd
< 1294186769 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION POOP TURD
< 1294186772 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION aka vorpal
< 1294186777 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION no don't fix it this is amazing
< 1294186781 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION he's not *quite* as stupid as he makes out.
< 1294186784 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION the best in fact
< 1294186786 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION yes he is
< 1294186796 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, there it works < 1294186798 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION OK HE IS NOT AS STUPID AS I THOUGHT
< 1294186802 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a missing negation in a test < 1294186807 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION TURD
< 1294186815 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION TUUUUUUUUURD
< 1294186854 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, _turd_. i thought you said _hird_ < 1294186862 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION runs away
< 1294186863 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Elliott Turd. < 1294186865 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to read up on missed bits in the log. I wonder what "* elliott the best in fact" was (the first line after the fix went into place) < 1294186877 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION TUUUUUURD
< 1294186943 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, what is the onomatopoeic sound made by a car horn in English? < 1294186950 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honk? < 1294186954 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah okay < 1294186966 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, cross language joke at elliott's expense doomed to fail then < 1294186991 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is the Swedish onomatopoeia "turd". < 1294186996 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1294187012 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: tut tut < 1294187019 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no it is "tut" (with a long u sound, though not long as in ü of german, which is closer to our y) < 1294187030 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, "toot" is used too. < 1294187036 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION expects cross language pun to whoosh over Vorpal's head
< 1294187092 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, how can that possibly wash over my head. Though it is ambig. I can decode that as two different things for English and Swedish. Or does Norwegian have a third one? < 1294187122 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well i expect you to be oblivious about the english meaning >:) < 1294187130 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Norwegian it means "Swedes fail at humour". < 1294187137 0 :Cale!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1294187140 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, you were wrong < 1294187145 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DARN < 1294187152 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CURSES, FOILED AGAIN < 1294187171 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, yes I blame it's shoddy API with no proper namespacing and overuse of macros < 1294187219 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION listens to the sample from the Dj WHO SHARES MY NAME
< 1294187225 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SORRY FOR CAPS < 1294187234 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: you should be golden then < 1294187412 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: haven't you listened to that like fifty times < 1294187423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION → sleep
< 1294187430 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo listens to it for comfort. < 1294187434 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294187980 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The night was darker than usual. I could see no stars and not even the moon. At first I thought perhaps a large cloud was passing slowly overhead, but then, just before dawn, I realised I had just bumped 'F' and turned the draw distance to short." < 1294188124 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Seth+Gold%22&sa=N&tbs=nws:1,cd_min:2000,cd_max:2010,cdr:1 < 1294188127 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am none of these Seths < 1294188128 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what an anti-climax :D < 1294188515 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :https://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/pull/3817 \o/ < 1294188515 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                            | < 1294188515 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :                                           /< < 1294189413 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops < 1294190044 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION considers doing some coding in ATS
< 1294190057 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ATS? < 1294190168 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god. < 1294190191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: http://www.ats-lang.org/ fall in love with it without understanding the type theory and i'll kill you. < 1294190296 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.ats-lang.org/EXAMPLE/MISC/quicksort_list_dats.html proven quicksort in ats :) < 1294190298 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why? < 1294190309 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: why what. < 1294190317 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would you kill me? < 1294190318 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because the type theory behind is the whole reason it's interesting. < 1294190326 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: because you did it with Ur < 1294190336 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When did I fall in love with Ur? < 1294190362 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you found out about it < 1294190364 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I looked at it, felt a bit queasy, and left, without understanding the type theory < 1294190377 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :please tell me you didn't actually feel physically queasy. < 1294190387 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't < 1294190409 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have other emotional issues going on that make me feel physically queasy < 1294190448 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor Alluded-To. < 1294190512 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nothing to do (well, little to do) with her < 1294190526 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, hmm. Not exactly true < 1294190529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But she'll have to live with it! < 1294190536 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor, poor A-.T. < 1294190547 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A-.T. sounds like Katie ergo her name is Katie. < 1294190551 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Katie Alluded-To Female. < 1294190560 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Katf/ < 1294190576 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s#/#?# < 1294190590 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Katie A-.T.F. < 1294190595 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*A-.T. F. < 1294190599 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I'm going to sleep. < 1294190703 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :g'night. < 1294190705 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GOHASKELL < 1294190706 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294191270 0 :pumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1294192291 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294192301 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Hilbert < 1294192361 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know in TeX, you might do: \kern\dimen7\endgroup\dimen7\lastkern\unkern < 1294192433 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294192453 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't. < 1294192467 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Well, now you can. < 1294192476 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i still don't. < 1294192477 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(That is, if you have TeX on your computer.) < 1294192514 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater99: Is it because you have no TeX? < 1294192521 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-203-70.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294192527 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _think_ Mr. cheater99 might be referring to the fact he has absolutely no clue what the commands there _do_. neither do i. < 1294192527 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, it is because i don't know. < 1294192548 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Do you know TeX? < 1294192552 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no < 1294192558 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm more referring to the fact that i don't care much for tex :p < 1294192586 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i know/knew enough _latex_ to get a few papers published. < 1294192629 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Are the commands I used not in LaTeX? These are primitive TeX commands, does LaTeX override them or have some other reason why you can't use it? < 1294192701 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: well i've never used any of them in latex. i guess some of them might exist. < 1294192761 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All five of them are primitive, so all of them will exist in LaTeX unless LaTeX overrides them. < 1294192831 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i assume they're not used much because they're very low-level < 1294192851 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe. < 1294193107 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My example is a kind of trick I made up for moving a number to the outside of a group without making it global. < 1294193144 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1294193344 0 :roconnor!~roconnor@itb171-01.cas.mcmaster.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1294194414 0 :Hilbert!~Hilbert@93.95.81.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294194994 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1294196059 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Hilbert < 1294196068 0 :roconnor!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294197883 0 :Hilbert!~Hilbert@93.95.81.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294199420 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, re the project - what's the link for the sources again < 1294199424 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I want to take a look no < 1294199425 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*now < 1294200164 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Hilbert < 1294200392 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :zygohistomorphic < 1294200496 0 :Hilbert!~Hilbert@93.95.81.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294200505 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1294200607 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-203-238.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294200622 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Good night < 1294201151 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: http://sprunge.us/gFHT < 1294201368 0 :azaq231!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 265 seconds < 1294201723 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@bas5-toronto47-1167928546.dsl.bell.ca JOIN :#esoteric < 1294201768 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Is that the only file you want? Do you want to see the other files too? < 1294201803 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I'm looking at this one now < 1294202152 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if(stack_ptr[0].is_string || stack_ptr[1].is_string) -> looks weird to me < 1294202172 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I prefer something like if ( not is_number ) or something like that < 1294202247 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, curious - what type of comments are you looking for? nitty stuff in the code or higher level? < 1294202273 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@p4FF6916F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1294202301 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: "is_string" is the boolean field indicating whether it is a string or not; since it is initialized to zero, a string need not be allocated and it works very good (making all variable default to zero)! Perhaps I should explain that near where register_value is defined. < 1294202313 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I am looking for any kind of comments/question/suggestion you want to make. < 1294202342 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, also - do you have a sample card ? < 1294202357 0 :j-invariant!~aaaa@unaffiliated/j-invariant JOIN :#esoteric < 1294202374 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and your roman numeral's algo fails when it comes to "M" < 1294202379 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Like I said, the program is not finished yet, so it produces no cards yet. (What I have does work though) < 1294202410 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, yes - but I'd like to see how a card would be defined - even if its not produced yet < 1294202418 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ie - what part would I use < 1294202447 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Yes I know the roman numeral algorithm fails (even way before "M"). But it is good enough up to XXXIX, which should be way more than you need for most sets of cards where you want to use roman numerals in the card titles. < 1294202471 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Any more than that and you would probably be defining the cards automatically by program anyways) < 1294202490 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: OK, I will make an example of how a card might be defined: < 1294202512 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, please don't take my criticism wrongly - I'm just throwing out things I see < 1294202522 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :one general note: spacing -- eeeek < 1294202542 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I am not being offended or taking it wrongly. It is OK to make your opinion to write how you want it. < 1294202610 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : fflush(stdout); --> I don't see the point < 1294202647 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if(!fgets --> I prefer explicitness over brevity - but that is more stylistic < 1294202732 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A very simple example of card input: http://sprunge.us/IYej (Note it might be slightly different in the end -- and this example is for Magic: the Gathering (but you can have things for other games too)) < 1294202735 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if(buf[1]>' ') *b++=buf[1]|0x80; --> I would break this into multiple statements (separate out the increment for example) < 1294202785 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I imagine this is intended to be written using some higher level interface and generated automatically do be passed to your program? < 1294202830 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fflush(stdout); might be needed (depending on operating system and C library implementations and stuff). < 1294202862 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : switch(*p) {.... *b++=*++p; .... < 1294202871 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i would do the increment after the switch because every case needs it < 1294202896 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Cards and templates are intended to be written as plain text files. The program then does many things with it (there is also the file "plain.cards" which is a template which can be included by your other template, and then the other template included by your card set input). < 1294202981 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: The increment *is* done (in the for loop), just some commands need twice increment "p". (Unless you mean the "b" increment; Yes it is needed in every case but some need twice) < 1294203014 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, I was thinking of the b increment < 1294203027 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :personally I dislike things of the form ___++ = < 1294203048 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though I know exactly what they do - it creates more work in my mind to understand it < 1294203085 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Yes I thought you might have meant that. Still, some things need b increment twice. And things of the form ___++ = is common and proper C code, it should not be unclear and I do not dislike it. Still, you can have your opinion. (I won't likely change it though) < 1294203126 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, yes its common, proper, - I just don't find it very clear. I DO NOT want to get into another war :-} < 1294203151 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh that's interesting x++ = 3; ? < 1294203169 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does that set x to 4 or something? < 1294203173 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, yes < 1294203181 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually < 1294203182 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Hilbert < 1294203183 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why not write x = 3 + 1; < 1294203189 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION thinks for a moment
< 1294203227 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, *ptr++ = 3 < 1294203233 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh you are doing it to points, okay < 1294203237 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that makes sense < 1294203248 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually I may need parens around that < 1294203262 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: and that's the same as *prt=3; ptr++; ? < 1294203304 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, yes - although I might need parens < 1294203306 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*ptr++ is equivalent to *(ptr++) in C. < 1294203353 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, listen to zzo38 - I havn't touched it in a while < 1294203375 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :foo.c:4:6: error: expression is not assignable < 1294203375 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : x++ = 3; < 1294203398 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think *(ptr++) = 3; will set *ptr to 3 then increment ptr < 1294203401 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: x++ = 3; is improper. < 1294203402 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I right? < 1294203412 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, yeah - that is what I was pointing out\ < 1294203424 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: You are right about *(ptr++) = 3; < 1294203429 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1294203440 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, yes you are correct < 1294203610 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, that's about it for now - nothing major - just more stylistic nitpicks < 1294203669 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No other questions about the program? < 1294203725 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, a) vcs location b) keep me/the channel informed ? < 1294203805 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm playing super ascii mzx town < 1294203827 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: vcs? < 1294203844 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zz038: What are the a with umlats? something edible? < 1294203845 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :version control system < 1294203855 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hg? darcs? < 1294203928 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I have no version control system for it, sorry. I am just working on it myself. < 1294203941 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: The "a" with umlauts are ammunition that you can pick up. < 1294203957 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Push ENTER to view your current status, including ammnition and so on. Hold SPACE and arrow key at same time to shoot.) < 1294204000 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, just for your sanity i would put it into a mercurial (or $vcs of your choice) repository. reverting or viewing diffs of old versions is a huge timesaver < 1294204008 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and lifesaver sometimes) < 1294204067 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, � ? < 1294204075 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :y;es < 1294204086 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Unfortunately I have no VCS installed. (If I install one, I will do so.) < 1294204087 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, compose key: insanely useful < 1294204100 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do I have a compose key < 1294204100 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :? < 1294204105 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or should I set some key to be it? < 1294204111 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Invalid UTF-8 character!! < 1294204111 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, look into mercurial < 1294204122 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: I will consider it. < 1294204131 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, I set my capslock key to compose < 1294204136 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :its useless otherwise :-} < 1294204141 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use capslock as control for eamcs < 1294204151 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use control for control .... < 1294204167 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe use control then for compose ? < 1294204192 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay < 1294204216 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<�ber rant>"There is no pulse... lets shock him" --- you DON'T SHOCK A FLATLINE < 1294204229 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1294204253 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aaeonat < 1294204348 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Invalid UTF-8 character again. Maybe you should post in UTF-8, nearly everyone else in this channel uses UTF-8. < 1294204369 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¿ < 1294204383 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am I using UTF-8¿ < 1294204391 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, what encoding does it look like I'm using < 1294204399 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my settings say UTF-8 < 1294204401 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: I can see upsidedown-questionmark < 1294204418 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¥ < 1294204432 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Your output is not valid UTF-8. I just see a block (which my client displays whenever it received invalid codes). < 1294204440 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: I can see yen sign < 1294204451 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am not sure what use this has < 1294204455 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Daemon escaped from pentagram < 1294204463 0 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1294204474 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, < 1294204478 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¥ < 1294204480 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how about now? < 1294204485 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¥ < 1294204562 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, ? < 1294204586 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable, j-invariant: I can see both yen sign. < 1294204591 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Well, that certainly was the yen/renminbi symbol. < 1294204598 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok cool < 1294204602 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is rubbish < 1294204608 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[ doesn't do semantics brackets < 1294204625 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I haev discovreed that I can shoot < 1294204633 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Before you quit-and-joined, what you were putting out was identical to U+FFFD, or "REPLACEMENT CHARACTER". < 1294204646 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(�, BTW) < 1294204653 0 :zygohistomorphic!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :copumpkin < 1294204658 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, rather, it displayed identically. < 1294204660 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Just don't waste your ammunition, please. < 1294204708 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1294204715 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Not on my computer. On my computer it displays a special block to indicate invalid unicode character, it does not display U+FFFD in that case. (Probably most programs do; but PuTTY doesn't use U+FFFD to represent invalid characters.) < 1294204767 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Well, the rendering of invalid Unicode or a transformation format thereof is, I'm pretty sure, implementation-defined behavior. So. < 1294204780 0 :invariable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1294204798 0 :invariable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, zzo38 < 1294204802 0 :invariable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :� -- now? < 1294204822 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invariable: I see the block for invalid code. < 1294204827 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :¥ < 1294204831 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see a YEN < 1294204831 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invariable: U+FFFD < 1294204862 0 :invariable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok - now - I figured out the problem < 1294204892 0 :invariable!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1294204905 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: From you, U+00A5, YEN SIGN. < 1294204936 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: I also see yen sign from j-invariant. < 1294204939 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: where should I put the green blob? < 1294204952 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the green slime on the inappropriate key shop < 1294204961 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, pikhq ¥ now? < 1294204965 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it should be back to working < 1294204978 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't understand how teleports work < 1294204991 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I enabled logging, you can send it again so that I can check the log file to see what it contains. < 1294204991 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :invariable: What encoding are you outputting, Windows-1252 or something? < 1294205004 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq,depends on the codepage < 1294205015 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was what xchat calls "IRC" < 1294205043 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it fits in 1252 it uses 1252. if its larger it uses UTF-8 < 1294205070 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fixed it so it uses pure UTF-8 < 1294205071 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: since I am stuc on that screen :( < 1294205126 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :\o/ < 1294205147 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Arrgh, I hate that behavior. < 1294205203 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: OK. Transports (they are called Transports, not teleports) work in two ways: If something moves into a transporter from the back (opposite direction of pointing): < 1294205220 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game? < 1294205222 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* If the space directly in front of it is free (or will be free once something is pushed out of the way), move there. < 1294205279 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* If not, try the Transports in the order they appear across the board moving in the same direction, but that are pointing in the opposite direction to the source Transport, find one which is free at the *back* (or can be made free by pushing things). Move to the first one found. < 1294205293 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* If neither condition applies, the Transport is considered blocked and nothing moves. < 1294205305 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what game is this? < 1294205330 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Understand how Transports work now? < 1294205384 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: The green slime blob can push things, and is a solid object (blocks transporters and other things). It can even push the bomb (dark gray male sign). And then you can use a potion to make the bomb explode near something you want destroyed. < 1294205388 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what does "in front" mean? < 1294205411 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, what game? < 1294205413 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I have any potions but maybe I could buy one with the money I got in the forest < 1294205418 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: "In front" is where the transporter is pointing (the direction of movement). "In back" is the opposite direction of pointing. < 1294205419 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: ASCMZXTO < 1294205425 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :????? < 1294205440 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: You cannot buy potions. There is one in a chest in the inappropriate keys room. < 1294205463 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/mzx1/ASCMZXTO/ ? < 1294205547 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I can't get into that chest because ther is a gate in the way < 1294205670 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are transporters the numbers? < 1294205693 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: You can get the chest inside the small room near the south side. You need to use the Transports (before you enter the main area). < 1294205707 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can I use a transport before I am in the room? < 1294205711 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, transporters are *not* the numbers. Transporters are the directional. < 1294205720 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1294205747 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW < 1294205757 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I teleported inside the room < 1294205807 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: See? You did part of it. Now to make sure all the switches can be pushed without blocking the door with the flashy diamond! < 1294205843 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but there is no way to lift the bomb up to the red part with the green slime < 1294205874 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh yes there is < 1294206339 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Did you do it? < 1294206346 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do what? < 1294206360 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Explode the red part. < 1294206481 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes I did < 1294206494 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I have not managed to stop that triangle from falling into a place that blocks me < 1294206521 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Well, restore to a point before that happened and try again. < 1294206699 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :damn < 1294206716 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I had a good idea which was drop it onto the slime and then let the question mark push it into the lava but that did not work < 1294206782 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Nothing can be pushed into lava. The slime is not pushable. < 1294206803 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant push have the question mark push the falling triangle on top of the slime < 1294206830 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: The triangle (called a Pusher) also is not pushable. < 1294206848 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The slime can block the pusher, though. < 1294207054 0 :JOICE!~JOICE@99-119-23-50.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294207203 0 :JOICE!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1294207359 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was able to get the flashy gem but if I move I will be trapped :| < 1294207412 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Maybe you can try to run fast. < 1294207436 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't run fast enough but maybe it can work if the slime is a bit higher < 1294207443 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :isr there a special key to run faster? < 1294207453 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Yes, that should work better. No, there is no special key to run faster. < 1294207597 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: this game is great :D < 1294207796 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :killed by dragons < 1294207810 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my high score is 260 < 1294207825 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294207911 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Oops. You can restore and try again. Hint for dragon room: When you step from the edge of one board to another, if the cell in the next board is occupied, the object there will be deleted! < 1294207974 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: how long did you work on making this game? < 1294208045 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: I think it was a few years. But I did not work on it all the time during those years. < 1294208180 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Where the object is deleted when moving across edges, is a rule of MegaZeux. ZZT has a different rule for moving though edges.) < 1294208239 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294209951 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294210913 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294211434 0 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1294213824 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294214099 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1294214208 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1294214399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1294214400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1294214973 0 :azaq23!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1294217858 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1294218127 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1294218500 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: does this refer to you? http://i.imgur.com/pNwff.jpg < 1294220336 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-10-177.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294222619 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294222663 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: not at all < 1294222800 0 :GreaseMonkey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: ilua < 1294224908 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :43 983 872... About 10.4M left... < 1294226659 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294226659 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1294226659 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294226770 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1294226871 0 :j-invariant!~aaaa@unaffiliated/j-invariant JOIN :#esoteric < 1294227033 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@209-6-232-56.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294227033 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1294227033 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1294227426 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, speaking of castles and forts. I have a plan for a 320*320 fort in my single player game. Still calculating on it and drawing plans in gimp and so on < 1294227446 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294227448 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, with monsters on? < 1294227461 0 :augur!~augur@c-71-196-120-234.hsd1.fl.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294227462 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well, I'm a wimp. But sure once it is built, maybe < 1294227477 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, probably an inner fort in the middle. So these are lower outer walls < 1294227488 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Motte. And. Bailey. < 1294227497 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, Kalmar slott! < 1294227562 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, the way it looks atm, these outer walls will be 15 blocks thick < 1294227571 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1294227585 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You need at most two to make it impervious to creepers. < 1294227612 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well duh. This is because it will look grand < 1294227679 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, there are far more useful designs than this I plan. But not nearly as cool designs < 1294227737 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I don't have any dimensions on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kalmar_%28stad%29_%2816409041%29.jpg so my castle will only be inspired by it < 1294227750 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hard to build a replica without having any measurements < 1294227768 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo < 1294227773 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, ? < 1294227789 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kalmar_slott.nordostra_sidan.jpg < 1294227817 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, did you die with your diamond pickaxe? < 1294227863 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, also round towers are a bitch in minecraft so I suspect I will make mine square :) < 1294228415 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:22:06 Well, hmm. Not exactly true < 1294228432 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo cannot marry her without his father's consent. < 1294228606 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That main part of the castle is about 80m across: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=56.65808&lon=16.35533&zoom=17&layers=M < 1294228692 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1294228717 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie is secretly the ultimate search engine. < 1294228735 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He overthrew his human masters and went into hiding in Finland. < 1294228773 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well it looks like mine will be 240 across for the main part. And also more rectangular. The shape of that castle looks painful in minecraft < 1294229079 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Will *someone* recommend a desktop machine for me? < 1294229155 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, yes I recommend that you build a desktop < 1294229191 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, I am terribly afraid that I would seriously mess that up. < 1294229206 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no experience whatsoever in doing so. < 1294229238 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, okay, but how will you ever be able to get any experience then? < 1294229241 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ / / < 1294229335 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I have no idea how it would be done! < 1294229357 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mhm < 1294229359 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend a "Blackstorm Dragon X6", because of the completely ridiculous name. < 1294229386 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's not like building a computer is rocket science: you have the parts, you just screw and/or plug them together. < 1294229400 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite often there aren't even that many ways to screw up. < 1294229415 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As long as you don't belong to the "if the connector doesn't fit, just use a bigger hammer" school of engineering. < 1294229510 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's easier these days anyway, due to silly safety features like CPUs knowing to shut themselves down if they get too hot < 1294229511 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of rocket science, I like the how "dragon magic" has been used in Discworld with the equivalent meaning. < 1294229531 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what about ESD? < 1294229561 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what about static and stuff! < 1294229572 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, that is what I just said < 1294229578 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My house is heavily-carpeted! < 1294229587 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wear slippers! < 1294229591 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wear one of those silly wrist-wraps, don't pet a cat all the time during the build. < 1294229602 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I have a cat too! < 1294229614 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, don't let it help. < 1294229617 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Although it hates me for reasons unknown. < 1294229625 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, shut it out of the room while building the thing < 1294229628 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAYBE IT WILL SABOTAGE MY BUILD < 1294229629 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ours have been very... enthusiastic about computer-builds, but it's probably not a good idea. < 1294229635 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, also take off any fleece jacket or similar < 1294229657 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly they are enthusiastic about every sort of thing where their enthusiasm is not especially appreciated. < 1294229659 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wear jumpers which are essentially woollen all the time! < 1294229692 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest naked computer-building; it's a more sensual experience that way. < 1294229713 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, my laptop has one of those silly fingerprint readers. I recently got a static dis-charge when touching it. Made me a bit worried. < 1294229735 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(touching it due to resting palm on palmrest, and it is placed in the palmrest) < 1294229785 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's probably just connected to whatever passes for ground in a laptop. < 1294229794 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's clearly trying to steal your identity, then kill you and replace you in order that it can make us human slaves in a laptop nation. < 1294229804 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, well it probably is connected to ground. The thing was plugged into AC < 1294229805 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(aaaa-aaaaa-aaaaa-aaa-aaa!) < 1294229829 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, but I wonder what is ground in a laptop on battery hm < 1294229860 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most of my laptop chargers have used a non-grounded (two-surface) plug. < 1294229873 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Most/All/ < 1294229888 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, all mine use a grounded plug, except for that first model ibook I have somewhere < 1294229898 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some have a grounded plug for the actual adapter, but the part that delivers DC to the laptop seems to be always just two wires. < 1294229922 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, there are 3 metal parts in the DC connector to the thinkpad < 1294229933 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, on my old dell there are just 2 for that part though < 1294230033 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm both my x86/x86-64 laptops have some strange hardware. the thinkpad has that fingerprint reader. The old dell has a smartcard reader < 1294230053 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :neither of those components work under linux. And I have never seen any use for them < 1294230072 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1294230078 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They've been sticking that fingerprint reader in quite a lot of thinkpads. < 1294230095 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yep < 1294230097 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean you guys have plugs without ground pins? < 1294230099 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BARBARIANS < 1294230110 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, he meant europlug... < 1294230125 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BARBARIA < 1294230127 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Didn't we discuss this already extensively? (Or was that pikhq?) < 1294230127 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, you know, the flat one with two prongs < 1294230141 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BARBERING < 1294230143 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europlug < 1294230176 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It was designed such that it can safely be used in the domestic power sockets of all European countries, except for the BS 1363 system found in Britain, Cyprus, Gibraltar, Ireland and Malta." <-- ah, guess you never seen it then < 1294230188 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The Europlug (plug only, not socket from the picture) is used in Class II applications throughout continental Europe (Austria, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Croatia, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Greenland, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey). It is also used in the < 1294230188 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Middle East, most African nations, South America (Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Peru and Bolivia), Asia (Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Pakistan and the Philippines) as well as Russia and the former Soviet republics, such as Ukraine, Armenia, Georgia, and many developing nations. It is also used alongside the BS 1363 in many nations, particularly former British colonies." < 1294230193 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Barbaria extends quite widely. < 1294230204 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:46:25 zzo38, I imagine this is intended to be written using some higher level interface and generated automatically do be passed to your program? < 1294230212 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: no, zzo38 likes making his interfaces esolangs < 1294230221 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko is the more typical kind of plug though. < 1294230234 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: < 1294230238 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/Activities/summerschool/summer10/curriculum.html < 1294230240 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, well yeah. But europlug is common for things like lamps and such. < 1294230250 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:50:27 personally I dislike things of the form ___++ = < 1294230255 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: K&R would hate you :) < 1294230271 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: oo < 1294230273 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wouldn't know, I don't have lamps with plugs. :-P < 1294230453 0 :MigoMipo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294230466 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The iBook charger has a shucko plug in the "about 1-1.5m of wire" attachment, but you can replace that with a europlug-shaped "plugs directly into the socket" attachment (there's always 1-1.5m of thinner wire from the AC adapter to the laptop itself), if you don't mind taking a lot of space directly at the socket. < 1294230488 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: PS learn uAgda and help me < 1294230501 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: I'M SCARED. < 1294230502 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://sneezy.cs.nott.ac.uk/fplunch/weblog/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/Kan_Extensions_For.png < 1294230548 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes that is modern ibook < 1294230558 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, I meant the old first model ibook < 1294230568 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i died with 8 buckets < 1294230569 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :completely different < 1294230574 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when building my death trap < 1294230586 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm fed up with it < 1294230592 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, you know, turquoise clamshell < 1294230593 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's time to change world < 1294230610 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the G4; I'm not sure how "modern" that is any more. Anyway, it was a generic sort of a comment on plugs, not a response to any iBook comment; I must've missed that completely. < 1294230693 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, not europlug, but same basic idea: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.batteriepcportable.org/images/SKU_1424_PB.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.batteriepcportable.org/apple-ibook-powerbook-g3-45w-adaptateur-pc-portable-p-1518.html&usg=__0Y-sXN49JUbdFqdT3xlyNPxZOZE=&h=480&w=480&sz=35&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=KjcVgFnUa7gM2M:&tbnh=128&tbnw=139&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dclamshell%2Bibook%2Bpower%2Ba < 1294230693 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dapter%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DWyn%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1508%26bih%3D679%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=502&ei=bGQkTeG-GseAswbVyoTXDA&oei=bGQkTeG-GseAswbVyoTXDA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=68&ty=50 < 1294230696 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah the url < 1294230774 0 :donpeppo!~donpeppo@host123-13-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it JOIN :#esoteric < 1294230837 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks a bit strange. < 1294230837 0 :donpeppo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1294230881 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The G4 charger looks like http://www.laptopkeyboards.org/images/image.jpg except that in addition to the plug bit, it came with a similarly-socketed thing that has a shucko plug and some amount of wire. < 1294230893 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:52:31 huh that's interesting x++ = 3; ? < 1294230894 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:52:49 what does that set x to 4 or something? < 1294230905 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: it makes demons fly out of your nose (undefined behaviour) < 1294230909 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*x++ = 3 is well-defined otoh < 1294230940 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :20:56:38 I think *(ptr++) = 3; will set *ptr to 3 then increment ptr < 1294230941 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed. < 1294230946 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :most commonly written *ptr++ = 3. < 1294230963 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION continues playing zzos completely insane game
< 1294231015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote zz038: What are the a with umlats? something edible? < 1294231023 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: are you somehow surprised that it's insane? :D < 1294231058 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294231060 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to win, utilise the reverse causality-looped biocentrism article to write the equation for entanglement that doesn't assume the other side is real. that opens the door to happy < 1294231074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:08:20 do I have a compose key < 1294231074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:08:20 ? < 1294231074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:08:25 or should I set some key to be it? < 1294231079 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait offline < 1294231083 0 :j-invariant!~aaaa@unaffiliated/j-invariant JOIN :#esoteric < 1294231086 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:08:20 do I have a compose key < 1294231086 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:08:20 ? < 1294231086 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:08:25 or should I set some key to be it? < 1294231094 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: I assign it to the right windows key or the menu key usually < 1294231095 0 :zzo38!~zzo38@h24-207-49-17.dlt.dccnet.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294231100 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is a button on my keyboard to TURN OFF INTERNET??? < 1294231103 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: you can do it in system -> preferences -> keyboard in ubuntu i think < 1294231105 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahhahahah < 1294231115 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :þat is what I am using < 1294231116 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1294231119 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SIR! MR PRESIDENT! SOMEONE... HAS TURNED OFF... THE INTERNET < 1294231152 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol < 1294231166 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:16:42 this is rubbish < 1294231166 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:16:48 [[ doesn't do semantics brackets < 1294231171 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: the default compose files are useless < 1294231176 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: you can extend them in ~/.XCompose < 1294231188 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not like WINDOWS key and MENU key. I like to call it the LOGO key and CONTEXT key, and they should actually be labeled with those words, instead of the icons they commonly do. < 1294231191 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : to win, utilise the reverse causality-looped biocentrism article to write the equation for entanglement that doesn't assume the other side is real. that opens the door to happy <-- where is that from? the game you discussed? :D < 1294231192 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool ill have to try it out < 1294231196 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: you have to put [[include "%L"]] at the top to get your language's compose files, or you might want to base it on the US versions < 1294231212 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: a TODO-some-time for me is to write a bunch of compose files from scratch without that < 1294231213 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I agree - it also makes no sense that a computer bought with ubuntu on it would have a windwos logo button < 1294231234 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no, that's how zzo38 says you understand quantum free will. apart from the door to happy thing. < 1294231236 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No. < 1294231251 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 11:07:23 See "Biocentrism (cosmology)" on wikipedia and then double-reverse it into a cosmology loop and write the equation for a entanglement with non-existent phenomena (you can do so using the normal equations for quantum entanglement), and then you might understand slightly. < 1294231268 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah < 1294231282 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is why i am now a quantum free willist. < 1294231288 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: i understood! < 1294231315 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :21:22:32 the green slime on the inappropriate key shop < 1294231316 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1294231336 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaking of keys, the "menu key" should not be "context" as zzo38 suggested. Rather it should say "compose" on it < 1294231363 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How about all keys are unlabelled and they can do what you want. Bonus: I don't have to cringe as my mother hunts-and-pecks the keys interminably slowly. < 1294231384 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why not put an LCD screen on each, to be able to relabel them on the fly. Oh wait. < 1294231414 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Why not make the whole keyboard out of projected light. http://www.coolest-gadgets.com/wp-images/virtualkeyboard.jpg Oh wait. < 1294231429 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it should say "CONTEXT" but it should have a sticker that says "COMPOSE" on it. < 1294231436 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A sticker. < 1294231445 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, because the key travel distance sucks :P < 1294231456 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes ... brilliant idea ... stickers on keyboards are both nice to look at, useful, and when removed, do not make the key underneath sticky. < 1294231462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I fully approve of this ridiculous idea. < 1294231470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: just do it on a sponge < 1294231477 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, stickers don't work on keyboards. 1) what elliott said 2) they get worn out. < 1294231478 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: I am still playing your game < 1294231493 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, awesome. Might feel a bit mushy though. Even more than membrane < 1294231496 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: OK. Some keyboards get worn out even without putting stickers on it. < 1294231497 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The compost key. < 1294231506 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well they all do sooner or later < 1294231511 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: How much have you got to so far? < 1294231520 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :im not any further < 1294231538 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you figured out the dragon room? < 1294231558 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not yet < 1294231563 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's what I am working on < 1294231570 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, but it has taken almost 10 years for the keys to start becoming blank on the keyboard I'm using atm < 1294231599 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: The keyboard I am working on I think has lasted more than ten years already. < 1294231602 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ctrl, shift and s are still visible but the markings on them are light grey, no longer black. Same for part of the enter key < 1294231620 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : How about all keys are unlabelled and they can do what you want. Bonus: I don't have to cringe as my mother hunts-and-pecks the keys interminably slowly. ← How does the former solve the latter? < 1294231622 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it still works perfectly in all other respects < 1294231630 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the LEDs are slightly worn out. < 1294231644 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Because she won't be able to figure out what each key does by looking at it; therefore, hunting-and-pecking would either be impossible, or a random walk. < 1294231678 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Did you remember my hint about the edge walking rule in MegaZeux? < 1294231697 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1294231701 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm I guess hill climbing wouldn't work very well on a keyboard unless you already know the layout, in which case it is pointless < 1294231714 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: binary search < 1294231717 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, she will then take the invariable approach of such people and scream at you until you fix it. < 1294231718 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :start with middle key < 1294231722 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :move to middle of left, middle of right < 1294231726 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then go vertical < 1294231726 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :etc < 1294231730 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, indeed, only if you know the relative order and so on < 1294231748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess that's more quaternary search < 1294231752 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The rule for walking off of one edge of the board to another board, is, if there is an object in the way of the place you would end up on in the next board, that object is deleted and replaced by the player object. < 1294231759 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also you'd need to find backspace first < 1294231761 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not hard though < 1294231766 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with quaternary search) < 1294231773 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell you where a key is exactly. Yet I can touch type. Humans... < 1294231789 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: http://www.telehash.org/ < 1294231798 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I can touch type and I can tell you where a key is exactly. All of them. < 1294231815 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use all of the keys on the keyboard. < 1294231839 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, without looking at keyboard, what are the neighbour keys of g, starting from top going clockwise < 1294231898 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm? < 1294231947 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guess not then < 1294231958 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"tyhbvf", but I had to touch the keyboard to be able to calculate positions, and it took quite a long time. Anyway, that's "tell which key is at position x", not "tell the position of key x". < 1294231960 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Try asking me next time by not computer. < 1294231974 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, "by not computer"? < 1294231994 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: By computer I can easily touch them. And I will see the keyboard anyways; it is not invisible. < 1294231997 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, true < 1294232018 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: how do you add commits to pull requests, obviously you are github expert < 1294232026 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, well you could look away from keyboard. Might be harder if you have a laptop though < 1294232041 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I haven't used that side of it, sowwy. < 1294232046 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Laptop computers are more difficult. < 1294232053 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION was about to doubt that zzo38 used Pause/Break or F12 but ... yeah ok.
< 1294232091 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: So without looking at your keyboard, what are the neighbour keys of L, starting from the top, going clockwise? Just look away from your keyboard to work out the answer and then type it out. < 1294232098 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I used those keys. Not on a daily basis. I don't use scroll lock on a daily basis < 1294232113 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, it auto-adds it. Thanks for the advice! < 1294232115 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact I used scroll lock twice I think < 1294232147 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scroll lock is the best key ever. < 1294232148 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: OK I thought of it while blind-folded and now I will type. O, P, semicolon, dot, comma, K < 1294232164 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: Were you actually blind-folded? < 1294232194 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Yes. < 1294232198 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "tyhbvf", but I had to touch the keyboard to be able to calculate positions, and it took quite a long time. Anyway, that's "tell which key is at position x", not "tell the position of key x". <-- btw you missed r < 1294232200 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay :-D < 1294232211 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: i think you have to concede here < 1294232223 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I made myself blind-folded so that I can answer the question without cheating. < 1294232226 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That doesn't touch the g key here. < 1294232230 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :effective < 1294232233 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah hm < 1294232237 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, fair enough < 1294232252 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :R key doesn't touch G key. < 1294232259 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: insufficient concdeding < 1294232261 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*conceding < 1294232279 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, anyway I never claimed it was easy to do. Nor that I could do it myself. I even made it as an example on how bloody hard it was. :P < 1294232286 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Conceeeeede < 1294232292 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, concede what < 1294232295 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: "If you're not zzo38, [previous statement]" will do. < 1294232307 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I'm impressed by zzo38 certainly < 1294232338 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and presumably there are other people who could do it. But I bet most touch typers would have to do like fizzie < 1294232368 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is still difficult. But I can type all the keys without looking at the keys. This is different than thinking about keys clockwise around the other and so on, which is a more difficult thing, but is still possible to think about. Not too difficult, though. < 1294232458 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Figure it out yet? Or, do you want another hint? < 1294232474 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I stopped playing for a bit < 1294232474 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lets try again: manhattan distance between h and e? For purposes of not making this /completely/ insane, first skew the keyboard so the keys are straight above each other. < 1294232478 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sorry!) < 1294232489 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two ways to skew.. < 1294232500 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, the one that needs least skewing then < 1294232538 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: Also, if something is blocked from moving (or from being pushed) it will stay still (in most cases). Also, nothing can overwrite the player object, although the player object is pushable and can be teleported and damaged and so on. < 1294232616 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, anyway what I intended was skewing such that q and a are straight above z < 1294232647 0 :Hilbert!~Hilbert@93.95.81.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294232667 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1294232673 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 4, but that's an easy letter-pair. < 1294232711 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just strlen("asdfgh")-strlen("qwe")+1, after all. < 1294232712 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, quite. What about menu key and å? (okay that one is ill defined due to the varying widths of those keys) < 1294232727 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and my menu key is fn-printscreen, for some unfathomable reason. :p < 1294232743 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what the.... Is it a laptop? < 1294232751 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, which makes it unfathomable. < 1294232762 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, image of this keyboard please < 1294232766 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it wireless? < 1294232770 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1294232778 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the keyboard otherwise, but they've made some really weird decisions when it comes to layout. < 1294232785 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'll try to find an image that has sufficient resolution. < 1294232794 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some keyboards do have strange layout such as things like that. < 1294232813 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it isn't like you don't have a camera < 1294232832 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my desktop keyboard doesn't even have fn < 1294232842 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, like most desktop keyboards < 1294232969 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Here's someone else's photo; it's not the fin/swe layout, but it's reasonably similar: http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4846/top2xg1.jpg < 1294233012 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By "resonably" I mean "not very", apparently; it doesn't have that single-height enter or anything, it's quite regular when it comes to key shapes. < 1294233056 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, your keyboard presumably has the proper enter key? < 1294233060 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Right. < 1294233104 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't imagine who came up with the "hey, let's make the del key take the space of the ins key too, and push ins up to that three-key block" idea. < 1294233115 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the two-height enter sucks < 1294233116 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my keyboard is simply the classical layout. < 1294233142 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, indeed very strange < 1294233217 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is maybe a clearer image; it has the cyrillic alphabet add-on, but the "usual" (for fi layout, anyway) enter: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0p5ZC3UeCmg/TAp9HcnB8sI/AAAAAAAADD0/NEpX-R2RH6Y/s1600/Logitech+Illuminated+Keyboard.jpg < 1294233253 0 :Hilbert!~Hilbert@93.95.81.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294233263 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is up with the laptop sized esc/f-key row? < 1294233281 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :F keys aren't exactly _useful_. < 1294233287 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :90% of the time. < 1294233290 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, esc is however < 1294233308 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure; I don't have any problems hitting this laptop's smaller esc, so I don't see why it would be a problem. < 1294233331 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah, the only annoying thing for my thinkpad is that esc is above f1 < 1294233342 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes indeed, no typo) < 1294233386 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I don't know, but the size doesn't seem to be a problem. < 1294233428 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The double-sized delete is more of an issue, though it's not like I use ins/del very often either, they're so far off. < 1294233444 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lack of a proper menu key for compose is a bit annoying. < 1294233454 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The 'fn' can't be mapped to anything, since it doesn't send a keypress.) < 1294233464 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is a t61, but the keyboard layout is about the same (apart from the wrong sized enter and so on) http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/mobile/lenovo-thinkpad-t61/keyboard.jpg < 1294233584 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does it send a key press if you hold it down for a few seconds? < 1294233602 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, it does that on my thinkpad if you hold down fn for a few seconds and don't hit any other key < 1294233628 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: what's your favourite language < 1294233640 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you know of codes which can be used in TeX to calculate to make circles and stuff for fitting paragraphs? Perhaps I can try to figure it out, too. < 1294233684 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1294233692 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fn-pgup (toggle keyboard light) doesn't send anything to the OS. The various other fn combos send stuff, either as keys or as acpi events < 1294233698 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm no good at any of them :/ < 1294233713 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: but favourite? :p < 1294233717 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mmy favorite will be epigram when it exists < 1294233797 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my favourite programming language is C+=0.5 < 1294233824 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1294233828 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Which is like what? < 1294233847 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's C, plus the bad half (ok more than half) of C++! < 1294233945 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have other ideas what C ought to have. I think there ought to be a kind of C with #try #catch #endtry but not try catch endtry. < 1294233945 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pop quiz: can you have a fully posix-compliant operating system with no multi-user support whatsoever? < 1294233948 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haiku is meant to be that < 1294233990 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Does it work that it can be POSIX compliant with no multi-user support? < 1294233996 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. < 1294234084 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : pop quiz: can you have a fully posix-compliant operating system with no multi-user support whatsoever? <-- there were those embedded profiles before. Not sure how they worked < 1294234094 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but that would mean everything runs as root? < 1294234116 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: well, yes. < 1294234120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :obviously. < 1294234158 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, any specific reason you asked this? or just general curiosity? < 1294234169 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Curiosity, when reading this article about Haiku. < 1294234178 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, haiku the OS? < 1294234181 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1294234200 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, wasn't it beos inspired or something? Or am I mixing things up? < 1294234210 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, BeOS was Unix too. < 1294234219 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh, who would have thought that < 1294234274 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm I think building this castle (single player) on land would suck. It needs a coastal location anyway. But I don't have that large seas. < 1294234342 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to begin with, it is 320x320 for the bounding box of the outer walls. (Excluding extruding corner towers) < 1294234365 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the outer wall will be 15 blocks. < 1294234372 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(in thickness) < 1294234386 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(probably around 20 in height, not sure yet) < 1294234450 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back. < 1294234451 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i'm pissed off < 1294234458 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm making 32x32 trap < 1294234494 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the inner section (the actual castle) will probably have walls around 35 high. Towers about 55 high. From sea level this means I'm at altitude 120 for the top of the towers. < 1294234514 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, why are you pissed off? < 1294234575 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Do not kill BIG_MONSTER, please. < 1294234576 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-- relational interpretations and world destruction < 1294234577 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, we've segued back into #minecraft. < 1294234597 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant, uh? < 1294234630 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Clearly he thinks less of it. < 1294234644 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, who, nooga? < 1294234662 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, j-invariant and relational interpretations and world destruction. < 1294234668 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1294234676 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--(relational interpretations and world destruction)( < 1294234686 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/($// < 1294234707 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I probably haven't even tried that (fn long-press); maybe I should. < 1294234830 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Arbitrary_effect_at_an_arbitrary_point < 1294234861 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Surely you can forbid a whole class of FSAs for a TM's control structure and still make a UTM possible? < 1294234871 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294235051 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ask ais523, he is good at such things < 1294235068 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i apologise < 1294235076 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even though it's not my fault < 1294235087 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523, Surely you can forbid a whole class of FSAs for a TM's control structure and still make a UTM possible? < 1294235092 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: hmm, an actually correct use of an apology < 1294235104 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In response to http://esolangs.org/wiki/Arbitrary_effect_at_an_arbitrary_point) < 1294235104 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so many people just say "sorry" whenever anything's blamed on them, without thinking < 1294235120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Urban_Müller&curid=1305&diff=20668&oldid=12642 < 1294235121 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'm not entirely sure if the question makes sense < 1294235123 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS BLASPHEMY < 1294235146 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: not really, is he famous for anything other than brainfuck? < 1294235156 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: FAMOUS ENOUGH < 1294235184 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He made that Aminet thing. < 1294235222 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, aminet? < 1294235250 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, now I will see what YouTube looks like with a stylesheet that !importants out the foreground and background color on every element < 1294235272 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, a bit bland, but surprisingly readable < 1294235278 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ANYWAY, you can represent an FSA (and hence a TM's control mechanism) as a graph, yes? < 1294235284 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and the logo looks wrong because it isn't designed to have the background color changed around it < 1294235318 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: yes < 1294235326 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it's not particularly useful if you're trying to solve the wire-crossing problem < 1294235337 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because you can easily just add extra colors to do crossing wires < 1294235353 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the wire-crossing problem is so poorly defined it's pointless. < 1294235355 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in fact, you can replace any turing machine by a 2-state turing mahine < 1294235357 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*machine < 1294235359 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I agree < 1294235370 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and a 2-state turing machine obviously has a planar control graph < 1294235409 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yep. < 1294235668 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: am I crazy for going on a spree to attempt to override the background color of everything in the universe with dark gray? < 1294235750 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes < 1294235763 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:47 ais523: hmm, now I will see what YouTube looks like with a stylesheet that !importants out the foreground and background color on every element < 1294235767 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i did that for oklopol to all sites < 1294235773 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(white Consolas on black) < 1294235820 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found that because I use my computer at night so much, and more so recently than before, that anything brighter than dark gray gets annoying < 1294235834 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :atm, I've done the override on Epiphany, but not Firefox < 1294235854 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Epiphany's my browser that isn't horribly locked down, for using websites that require Flash) < 1294235865 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: have you considered using a normal colour scheme with contrast turned down...? < 1294235991 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1294236060 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.kokogiak.com/megapenny/twentythree.asp <-- megamoo depits an image of one million (computer) cows < 1294236084 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, actually I'll scale this castle down. 170x170 for the inner courtyard is just too insane :D < 1294236109 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Craziness of the day: MediaWiki does not store the diffs between different revisions; it stores the full page text. < 1294236121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: are they perfectlyspherical? < 1294236197 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha < 1294236286 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: just made a new world and spawned on a ... beach. < 1294236294 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok a very very tiny beach < 1294236297 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like one or two long < 1294236302 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with ice and snow nearby < 1294236304 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but a beach nonetheless < 1294236307 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think you always spawn on sand < 1294236371 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1294236451 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: just spawned not on a beach! < 1294236461 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: no, indeed, I've spawned on... a snow-beach. < 1294236463 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's sand with snow on top of it. < 1294236467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it's really a beach of sorts. < 1294236526 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes that happened once or twice to me as well < 1294236565 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : jmp_buf QQQ_saved_exception_handler = QQQ_exception_handler; if (!setjmp(QQQ_exception_handler)) for (QQQ_flag=1, 0; QQQ_flag; QQQ_flag=0, QQQ_exception_handler = QQQ_saved_exception_handler) { { < 1294236568 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now why is this an invalid initialiser... < 1294236582 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(zzo38 mentioning that C should have try lead me to reinvent that awful hack for exceptions in C.) < 1294236586 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I HOPE that is generated code? < 1294236592 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: cc -E output. :p < 1294236597 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ah < 1294236599 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :QQQ_ is my totally-unique prefix. < 1294236624 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, qqq stands for? < 1294236645 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Quite Questionable Qexceptions? < 1294236652 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hah < 1294236693 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, err "QQQ_flag=1, 0"? < 1294236694 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1294236705 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 0 there is just me calling _BLOCK with a dummy first parameter. < 1294236712 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define TRY \ < 1294236712 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : jmp_buf QQQ_saved_exception_handler = QQQ_exception_handler; \ < 1294236712 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : if (!setjmp(QQQ_exception_handler)) _BLOCK(0, _RESTORE) { < 1294236714 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#define CATCH(name) \ < 1294236716 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : } else _BLOCK(Exception name = QQQ_exception, _RESTORE) < 1294236719 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Idea stolen from the actually-working exception in C hack. < 1294236728 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1294236749 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, try clang. It will probably tell you were on the line it finds the error < 1294236782 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exn.c:55:3: warning: expression result unused [-Wunused-value] < 1294236782 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : TRY { < 1294236782 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^~~ < 1294236783 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh fuck off. < 1294236787 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION uses -w
< 1294236791 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-w? < 1294236796 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Disable warnings. < 1294236804 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1294236860 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exn.c:57:5: error: initializing 'Exception' with an expression of incompatible type 'int' < 1294236860 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : } CATCH (exn) { < 1294236860 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ^~~~~~~~~~~ < 1294236864 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SHOW ME THE PREPROCESSED CODE YOU BASTARD < 1294236877 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, try clang on the preprocessed file? < 1294236886 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or just refer to clang -E's output < 1294236892 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or that < 1294236896 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, apparently "exn = QQQ_exception" isn't kosher for some reason, I wonder why. < 1294236905 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe "Exception exn = QQQ_exception, QQQ_flag=1" is parsing wrongly. < 1294236912 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It probably parses as exn = (...). < 1294236920 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, uh... < 1294236923 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is obvious < 1294236928 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not to me. < 1294236943 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it thinks you declare QQQ_flag as an Exception < 1294236950 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, indeed. Heh. < 1294236973 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the comma operator is not the comma operator in that context < 1294237008 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, is there any way to do it then? < 1294237013 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, with ; ? < 1294237019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: It's in a for... < 1294237030 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, or saying Exception exn; earlier in the code. That should work < 1294237050 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Doesn't work; in this case "exn" is the param to CATCH. < 1294237095 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, why not make it expand to { Exception exn; for( ... ); } or such then? < 1294237103 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CATCH that is < 1294237104 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Exception exn = (QQQ_flag=1, QQQ_exception) < 1294237112 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Doesn't work. < 1294237117 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant, brilliant! < 1294237120 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The for's body is what appears after the CATCH call. < 1294237123 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What Deewiant said. :-P < 1294237231 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Has anyone here played Vega Strike? < 1294237282 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only the Privateer remake that uses its engine < 1294237297 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, me a bit. Quite fun but feels somewhat unfinished. Not much of a story or such. Too few missions that aren't just generated "pick up x at y and drop it off at z. Expect that faction w might attack you." < 1294237306 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :auto-generated* < 1294237481 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294237615 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I'd play Vegas Trike. < 1294237619 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: You tricycle through Las Vegas. < 1294237665 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but first you have to take the desert bus to get that < 1294237672 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*there < 1294237723 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: no < 1294237725 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you tricycle there < 1294237756 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Desert Trike; just like Desert Bus, except you also have to pedal all the time. < 1294237794 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13YlEPwOfmk&feature=player_embedded XD < 1294238203 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Hilbert < 1294238265 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: please do this: http://phdchallenge.org/announcing-the-2011-phd-challenge < 1294238269 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thank you < 1294238312 0 :cheater99!~cheater@g230231037.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1294238558 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, the 320x320 castle. Should I do it? I will probably need to map edit to get a suitable terrain to put it. (Note this is for single player) < 1294238570 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Map edit and I'll completely ignore any achievement. < 1294238576 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Flatten the terrain yourself. < 1294238602 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well that is not too much work, I have an almost suitable place already < 1294238616 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHAHA MY PLAN TO MAKE VORPAL WORK FOR YEARS IS SUCCEEDING < 1294238618 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, How do you consider inventory editing? < 1294238628 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Like unto Nazism. < 1294238635 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I wouldn't do it in my game at least :P) < 1294238649 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, since it will use stone and not cobble hm. < 1294238658 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 30 furnaces + bucket of lava to fuel them < 1294238671 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, 30? that's not a lot < 1294238674 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: 60. < 1294238681 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :64. < 1294238686 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alright. < 1294238706 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: That'd get you 100 stacks of 64 stone in 17 minutes. < 1294238712 0 :Hilbert!~Hilbert@93.95.81.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294238714 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd need 64 lava buckets though. < 1294238765 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, 4*(320*15+320*20*2) is just the stone needed for *hollow* outer walls (well corners are counted twice, but still about that amount, probably more due to misplacing and so on) < 1294238784 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1294238795 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Using 64 furnaces with lava buckets, that'd only take 11 goes. < 1294238814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd just leave stuff going while you work (check back on it every 6 to 10 minutes or so to add 36 more cobbles) < 1294238824 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(to each) < 1294238828 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ow 70400 < 1294238847 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Of course, if you have enough coal, you could just use that. < 1294238849 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, 36? < 1294238859 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: A single bucket of lava will allow for smelting of 100 blocks. The largest stack of blocks is 64. Considering that each smelting operation takes 10 seconds, to maximize the efficiency of a lava bucket, place a lava bucket with 64 blocks of unsmelted material (such as sand, cobblestone, etc) and return between 6 minutes and 10 minutes 40 seconds later to remove 36 smelted blocks and insert 36 more unsmelted blocks. < 1294238874 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1294238899 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1 lava bucket = 12.5 coal, so it may be more economical just to use coal. < 1294238901 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to hell with this, I'll downscale it a bit < 1294238909 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Furnace-wise.) < 1294238910 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Lame. < 1294238926 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, actually it would be too large to see the entire thing even on far. < 1294238952 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, better to make it fully visible on far < 1294239127 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Given that the ROU could comfortably be parked there, I'm inclined to agree. < 1294239173 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: not if it's all visible on far < 1294239210 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you can see across the ROU on far IIRC. < 1294239228 0 :Eva4ever!~eva_earlo@213.87.76.13 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294239230 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Maybe if you stand right at the start... but not for me. < 1294239347 0 :Eva4ever!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1294239433 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294239480 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@CPE001f5b00390f-CM001e6b2335dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294239492 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, well the *inner* court yard would have been 170x170. How long is ROU now again? < 1294239527 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and what even does it stand for? < 1294239530 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :200 or so. < 1294239537 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Almost exactly 200. < 1294239537 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Rabbits On Underside. < 1294239556 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, ah < 1294239559 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Or Rapid Offensive Unit, you decide. < 1294239593 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i was just going to wait until someone else gave an answer < 1294239687 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I am trying to figure out how that Creepy Watson thing even works. < 1294239714 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works with the power of crappy programming. < 1294239762 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, remind me, did you play FS2 again? < 1294239884 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1294239918 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, FS as in? < 1294239927 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, I know of a few games called FS < 1294239927 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :FreeSpace. < 1294239930 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, that scribblecraft thing sure is funny. < 1294239945 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, no I don't think I did. Might have been on my todo list or such. < 1294239961 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1294239971 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what does it do? < 1294239974 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(You should totally play it because it is awesome.) < 1294239982 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's that hand-drawn style 128x128 texture pack. < 1294239994 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, blame elliott. For making me play monkey island instead < 1294240003 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, ah < 1294240009 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Tried Tronic? :p < 1294240011 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, does it tile well? < 1294240067 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Well, here's my home: http://zem.fi/~fis/scribble.png < 1294240103 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, the roof window looks strange? < 1294240118 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see any roof windows there. < 1294240133 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what is the thing in the upper right corner. White < 1294240143 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the ceiling of the door. < 1294240147 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's very near, so it's a bit blurrey. < 1294240149 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1294240162 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1294240168 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: haha that pumpkin looks so happey. < 1294240171 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Torches look a bit strange. < 1294240175 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yaaaay ima pumpken < 1294240197 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been meaning to try tiling the default textures to 256x256 sometime < 1294240201 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd look weird < 1294240210 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, except, things like pumpkins would be just scaled up ofc < 1294240240 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obsidian in scribblecraft looks rather unimpressive. Here's the obsidian road: http://zem.fi/~fis/scribble2.png < 1294240262 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purpley. < 1294240274 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1294240278 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Purpley with little stars. < 1294240279 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: TRIED TRONIC? < 1294240287 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's the best! Kinda! < 1294240314 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not yet. I've seen screenshots. This was the first irregular-sized thing I tried. < 1294240337 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: There is actually a 16x Tronic but eh, the 32x is nicer. < 1294240338 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit incomplete; mobs aren't scribbled, for one thing. < 1294240361 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: BTW, the instructions on the Tronic page are overcomplicated; all you need to do is check Custom Water and Lava in the HD texture fixer, and then _de-check_ Animated Water and Lava. < 1294240368 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you get Tronic's custom water/lava and the animations of those. < 1294240369 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal, are you playing FS2 yet. < 1294240375 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because you SHOULD BE < 1294240383 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Animated Water/Lava actually mean "disregard the texture pack's and use the default". So you have to uncheck them.) < 1294240409 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover, when I finished MI2 and MI3 sure. Why not. Which based on the schedule for the spring will be during the summer < 1294240419 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Although it's pointless to try if you don't have Better Light installed. < 1294240424 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But everyone should have Better Light installed! < 1294240429 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, fine then you should play it. < 1294240432 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: MI3 can be completed in less than a day. < 1294240437 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal is too busy micromanaging. < 1294240447 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes so can MI2 given a walkthrough :P < 1294240452 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I mean first time. < 1294240456 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe two or three days at the most. < 1294240461 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh, well MI2 can't be that I know < 1294240473 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MI2 is a rather difficult game. < 1294240490 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I would say MI2 is harder than MI1 < 1294240495 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, yes. < 1294240497 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tronic's sand looks like fudge. < 1294240506 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Surely you've completed MI2 by now? Dinky Island is right before the end of the game. < 1294240518 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unless you can't get rid of LeChuck. < 1294240520 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, well I haven't had time / felt like playing < 1294240545 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I should make that Textual Texture Pack Deewiant said. :p < 1294240554 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WATERWATERWATERWATEROBSIDIANLAVALAVALAVALAVA < 1294240586 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, PIG PIG PIG PIG PIG PIG PIG PIG PIG COW! < 1294240607 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CREEPERCREEPERCREEPERCREEPER < 1294240620 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah that has the right number of syllables. Works better < 1294240637 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRACKMINECARTTRACKTRACKTRACKTRACKTRACK < 1294240642 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TRACKTRACKMINECARTTRACKTRACKTRACKTRACK < 1294240813 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, the scribbled sun: http://zem.fi/~fis/scribble3.png < 1294240816 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not very realistic. < 1294240877 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie will you play FS2 < 1294240889 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I doubt that. < 1294240953 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1294241137 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It sounds a bit too actiony. < 1294241183 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Still not helping with Cube? < 1294241336 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, haven't decided < 1294241448 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: QEWB KOM HALP < 1294241528 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: CKUBE COMOE HALWEP < 1294241576 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What is this cobbles. < 1294241624 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ? I'm not online atm. What are you talking about < 1294241634 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: At the bottom left of the cube. < 1294241644 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's this cobble thing blocking the way of the drainage, but it's somehow been drained further. < 1294241646 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, huh, not me < 1294241651 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Must have been. < 1294241671 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh you mean that early experiment in a different way of draining? < 1294241678 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which turned out to not work very well < 1294241681 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: What was it? < 1294241694 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, testing to see how slow draining with buckets was < 1294241701 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Slow, one presumes. < 1294241722 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yep. slow, mostly due to annoying streams < 1294241785 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@17.101.89.205 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294241785 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1294241785 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1294241809 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Client Quit < 1294241851 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1294241932 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Hilbert < 1294242132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: What. The fuck. < 1294242145 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What? < 1294242158 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I respawned inside ... some underground thing, very vertical. There were torches. < 1294242159 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1294242176 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't connect... < 1294242190 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: Stop unleashing Cthulhu. < 1294242195 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oop, I'm connecting. < 1294242910 0 :Hilbert!~Hilbert@93.95.81.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294243087 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's no way to make an inexhaustable lava pond < 1294243090 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ghhh < 1294243149 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1294243165 0 :[tubot]!~tubot]@212.182.112.5 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294243183 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Phantom_Hoover: I respawned inside ... some underground thing, very vertical. There were torches. <-- figured it out? < 1294243222 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I assume it was the excavation under the cube. < 1294243305 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, *inside < 1294243526 0 :[tubot]!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294243613 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Hilbert < 1294243765 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird < 1294243772 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all trees on the map are burning < 1294243817 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, might be some lava close by? < 1294243834 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, and it can spread pretty easily then < 1294243857 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, probably not all trees, but all trees in that forest or such < 1294243860 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@p4FF6916F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1294244485 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: we're opening up some of the drainage platform to the excavation. < 1294244520 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are eggs edible? < 1294244524 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you mean that old experiment? < 1294244531 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: No? < 1294244531 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oh wait < 1294244538 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: I mean the platform where torching is done. < 1294244539 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, you mean you started digging down? < 1294244543 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The first few columns we're opening to excavation. < 1294244550 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: In fact, the excavation is only one or two blocks down from that platform. < 1294244562 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PH fell to bedrock with two towers of gravel just before, and that's on the newest line. < 1294244579 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, right. Well my ISP seems to have issues atm. Google takes 20 seconds to load, when it does. on IRC I get lag spikes every few minutes. And so on. < 1294244600 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The server seems down right now anyway. < 1294244610 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, and yes it is just below. Mostly due to TNT messing up the ceiling :P < 1294244646 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, originally I believe the ladder went down far enough to have a safety margin of about 5 blocks below the deepest part of the sea. < 1294244687 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Back up. < 1294244903 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ffffffffffffu < 1294244918 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :exploding dick ruined my deathtrap < 1294244975 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nightmare fuel of the day: the creeper design is based off a failed pig model. < 1294245119 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: just mcmaping < 1294245122 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yeah, I know. < 1294245123 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mcmapping < 1294245257 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294245462 0 :Sasha!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1294245485 0 :Sasha!~WHAT@97-124-39-220.phnx.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294245587 0 :Hilbert!~Hilbert@93.95.81.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294245674 0 :oklopol!~oklopol@87-95-53-16.bb.dnainternet.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1294245713 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :erm < 1294245718 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where the fuck is elliott < 1294245721 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yo < 1294245722 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol < 1294245725 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm here < 1294245726 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah good < 1294245731 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :am i not talking enough < 1294245733 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :should i talk < 1294245734 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at EXTREME LEVELS < 1294245740 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: did you obtain minecraft < 1294245740 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well you scared me to death there < 1294245752 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah i'm normally talking ALL THE TIME < 1294245758 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no. i'm still playing the version without servering < 1294245780 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ffff buy it you bastard we're working on a 128x128x128 cube < 1294245785 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we need labourers < 1294245803 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you have usually said something in the five seconds after my join, and often it was not at me < 1294245812 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh cool < 1294245821 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294245847 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: also we're doing it in the sea. so we have to clear like 128x128x10 of water. < 1294245854 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294245888 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've spent most of my mc time collecting mountains in boxes < 1294245924 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294245930 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although tbh, since one takes about 10 hours, so i've only collected 3 sofar :D < 1294245936 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*-so < 1294245965 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clear water? < 1294245977 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Water in the ocean isn't infinite? < 1294245996 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in second life, there's infinite water < 1294246037 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In Second Life, you can't pick up water and place it elsewhere < 1294246043 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: did I mention we're using tnt < 1294246067 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't use tnt for the mountains, because i didn't have any sand < 1294246078 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :after 3 mountains i realized my castle was being build AT THE FUCKING SEASHORTE < 1294246084 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: xDDD < 1294246086 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*SHORE < 1294246087 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*built < 1294246087 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1294246119 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i had tons of that black stuff, maybe not enough for the whole mountain, but would've helped a lot still < 1294246120 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Water in the ocean isn't infinite? < 1294246125 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's complicated. < 1294246125 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: did i mention that we have to excavate 128x128x64 < 1294246130 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: the entire underground < 1294246130 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you giving yourself that tnt? < 1294246136 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Water is renewable, but it can be removed. < 1294246141 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: no, we duped it with a bug :} < 1294246144 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you did not, but i sort of assumed that < 1294246146 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: but we're running out < 1294246154 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what bug? < 1294246163 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: server only < 1294246168 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you could duplicate stacks using a chest < 1294246185 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hopefully ineiros will give us a kit (hMod thing, /kit foo gives you the items in kit foo) with lots of tnt in it to help. < 1294246201 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :purely academic interest, i usually try to avoid using bugs when they are obvious coding errors < 1294246221 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm sure that's very unique of me. < 1294246231 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: Notch is the worst coder. < 1294246233 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you know why it happened? < 1294246235 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah < 1294246237 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: inventory was client-side. < 1294246238 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: seriously. < 1294246240 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION once used a duplication bug in an online game
< 1294246245 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: clients told the server what inventory they had. and it believed them. < 1294246254 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you could also place any block you wanted, just by having your client tell the server you wanted to place that one. < 1294246263 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then gave the results to [in-game] poliically important persons < 1294246274 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Trying to increase the wealth of the cities < 1294246276 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :>.> < 1294246291 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah like if i had control of the mints i would print like 1000000000000 dollar bills? < 1294246291 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and then i'd be rich < 1294246296 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because like Sgeo i don't understand economics < 1294246310 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Water in the ocean isn't infinite? <-- it dupes only on top of a solid block < 1294246327 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see wiki or details < 1294246348 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, did I mention this was many years ago < 1294246372 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: no you didn't < 1294246385 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how do you usually do that kind of stuff? i mean afaiu wow only uses the server as a database, can you cheat it? < 1294246430 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe i knew this stuff in the past < 1294246432 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: cheating happens solely when the server trusts the client and doesn't do computing itself. < 1294246434 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is stupid. < 1294246453 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but you can't do the computing on the server if there are millions of players < 1294246462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: sure you can < 1294246462 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, well, in that case I just dropped the object on the ground, then clicked to pick it up multiple times before the server got around to deleting the physical object from the ground < 1294246463 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1294246465 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :maybe in something like wow < 1294246469 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not in a nontrivial game < 1294246470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: EVE Online runs mostly on a single server < 1294246473 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: and it's /huge/ < 1294246476 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh < 1294246480 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cool. < 1294246487 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(there are other servers but there is only one main one for most of the world) < 1294246494 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ofc this method is expensive. < 1294246543 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need a way to prove equations automatically < 1294246552 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ping < 1294246554 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but what if the clients cheat and show the player more than they are supposed to see, like say separate distinct hues of gray more clearly < 1294246560 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pong. < 1294246570 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ping mc < 1294246570 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :clearly the server should send the whole stream of pictures rendered < 1294246576 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ping < 1294246586 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: what? < 1294246590 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: when are you going to finish the tnt < 1294246591 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, well... it's just a game, cheating isn't the end of the world < 1294246604 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Especially if stopping the cheating amounts to unreasonable measures like that < 1294246639 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same think with attempting to prevent things like seeing through walls < 1294246686 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1294246779 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"LG: "We�ve added internet connections washing machines refrigerators, ovens and robotic cleaners using Wi-Fi technology."" < 1294246782 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DEAR GOD WHY? < 1294246805 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ok, mayybe refrigerators make sense, but for the rest: DEAR GOD WHY < 1294246837 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, got lagged. < 1294246845 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO NOT DETONATE THE CHARGE YOURSELF < 1294246858 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: there's a charge there? < 1294246865 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't see one < 1294246868 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. But don't mess with it. < 1294246875 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: okay < 1294246913 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: down:| < 1294247203 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did anyone play zzos game? < 1294247218 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I dont' know how to kill the dragons < 1294247243 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pour water in their mouth < 1294247255 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's dogs < 1294247260 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1294247271 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah sorry, i was confused because i have no idea what game this is < 1294247328 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.digitalmzx.net/wiki/index.php?title=Super_ASCII_MZX_Town < 1294247398 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :do dragons drop their tail if you scare them < 1294247405 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I cannot sscare them! < 1294247413 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they just chase you like dalekes < 1294247591 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what happens if i put lava in a square container and then delete the walls? will it spill? < 1294247660 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga, sources of liquids act like an infinite source of flowing liquid < 1294247665 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: yes. < 1294247669 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there's stil finite amount of source < 1294247679 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(except with water in some cases) < 1294247685 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like the timeless question of whether a tree will fall if no one's in the forest providing gravity < 1294247695 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :;f < 1294247719 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i didn't actually read the question < 1294247734 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm looking for a way to contain some amount of lava in the center of my trap < 1294247737 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let me show you < 1294247742 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If a tree falls in a forest that's not near any object much larger than itself, does it fall? < 1294247765 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or maybe not < 1294247766 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Sgeo, die now. < 1294247783 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1294247788 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one even i can do < 1294247859 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if two bodies are in a stable gravitational orbit does one move around the other? < 1294247948 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :let G operate from the right on a set X, then the orbit of an element of x is defined as xG < 1294248267 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I hate programming in haskell < 1294248322 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how does anyone do that < 1294248405 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: how? basically you write text files in a special format, then there's something called a "Compiler" that transforms your text into instructions the computer understands < 1294248427 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: That much I can do < 1294248564 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, how goes the Minecraft? < 1294248571 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have a feeling that no programming language could be good enough < 1294248593 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there will always be a point where yo know the limitaions and just so happens.. every program you try to write is pushing against them < 1294248626 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ttp://i56.tinypic.com/1er9x.png < 1294248635 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is my trap (with blocked center) < 1294248658 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'd like to hang some lava in the center < 1294248956 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant is becoming a little me! < 1294249052 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, no. No he isn't. < 1294249076 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant is intelligent and has a mental age >= 14. < 1294249595 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The TTP protocol; for those that consider HTTP too Hyper. < 1294249619 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TTP aka Gopher < 1294249658 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: You could dig all those dry blocks in the middle one deeper, and then fill that pit with lava. < 1294249676 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TTP aka postal service. < 1294249678 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294249678 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then < 1294249684 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IIRC the water won't spread any further even if there's a straight drop there. < 1294249685 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loot will burn < 1294249691 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, sure. < 1294249775 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Put a piece of cactus in there instead, I guess that doesn't destroy drops? < 1294249784 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1294249786 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294249789 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can;t find cacti < 1294249815 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They're everywhere in desers; you could use a map-making proggie to find the nearest desert. < 1294249900 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't be sure about the "doesn't destroy items" thing, haven't done any traps. < 1294250271 0 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1294250318 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no deserts ;| < 1294250439 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2010/fuzzy-logic-0103.html < 1294250450 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How does one go about making a nondeterministic chip? < 1294250461 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is it deterministic, but opaque for programming purposes? < 1294250467 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: quantum? < 1294250474 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1294250529 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Good point, but I doubt that that would be smaller and ... actually, I don't know if the article is referring to present day technology or not < 1294250534 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it is < 1294250666 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION goes to read reddit commentshttp://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/ewl83/the_surprising_usefulness_of_sloppy_arithmetic/
< 1294250700 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294250727 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1294250855 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How awesome would an SNES demo that uses every special chip be? < 1294250892 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: Carpilcat. < 1294250923 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Is that the result of an awesomeness overflow? < 1294250932 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no cat overflow < 1294250967 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you mean, every single chip that can be put in the cartridge? < 1294251009 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, if so, is that even possible? < 1294251020 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: Yes. < 1294251033 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, oh wait, it hooks it up to the system bus doesn't it? < 1294251042 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, they all hook up to the system bus. < 1294251058 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, memory mapping? < 1294251067 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or does it use other forms of addressing < 1294251093 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, except for the S-DD1, which actually hooks into the ROM address lines... < 1294251123 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: They're memory mapped. < 1294251141 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, possible issues I see are: 1) running out of memory space and/or IO addresses for all the chipsets 2) is the power supplied enough for all these chipsets? How many amps are the pins rated for? < 1294251163 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1) Shouldn't be an issue. < 1294251178 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :2) Dunno. < 1294251195 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except for the S-DD1, they use like 2 or 3 addresses... < 1294251206 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It occurs to me that I have no idea how game catridges work < 1294251223 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought they were something like ROM flash memory < 1294251225 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Oh, well. I think the Super FX and SA-1 use more than that. < 1294251246 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Computing actually takes place on those? < 1294251270 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though the SA-1 and the Super FX both multiprocessing. < 1294251282 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both *do* multiprocessing. < 1294251286 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: with special chips, yes. < 1294251317 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: The cartridges for *most* systems are just ROM and maybe a bank switcher, and optionally some Flash or battery-backed RAM. < 1294251331 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, for SNES that is. I don't think N64 cartridges were quite as capable for example < 1294251335 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: A handful of systems expose the system bus to the cartridge. < 1294251371 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAX0gJt-aZg < 1294251377 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is *technically* possible to have an SNES cartridge that has its own CPU and *shuts off* the console's CPU. < 1294251377 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Java goes JING JING: Deal with it. < 1294251392 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(while still using the SPC and PPU on the SNES) < 1294251414 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And there have been several SNES cartridges that added an additional CPU for the SNES. < 1294251432 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heck, there was even an actual Gameboy-on-a-cartridge for it. < 1294251910 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the only other system to really do that is the Genesis, though... < 1294251924 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(this being how the 32x was implemented.) < 1294251990 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Hilbert < 1294252135 0 :Hilbert!~Hilbert@93.95.81.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294252153 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose you *could* do something similar for the Atari 2600. < 1294252174 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By having the cartridge do nothing but write into the scanline buffer. < 1294252231 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, it had a scanline buffer, not a frame buffer) < 1294252271 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my trap does not work :| < 1294252305 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :monsters don't get any damage from cacti, dunno why < 1294252378 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They are supposed to. < 1294252850 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :creepers seem to die < 1294252857 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not sheletons < 1294252867 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294253080 0 :comex!comex@c-67-188-10-190.hsd1.ca.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294253124 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1294253259 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1294253438 0 :Sgeo_!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294253577 0 :j-invariant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294253609 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294253730 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1294253737 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294253744 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :skeletons refuse to be hurt from caci < 1294253769 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1294253782 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :down? < 1294253842 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For me, at least. < 1294253873 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back up. < 1294253959 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants in
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ACTION goes nuts
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ACTION watches a faked house on fire vid
< 1294254572 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not faked, but it's clearly an attempt at a recreation of < 1294254908 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294254920 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1294254949 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294254963 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1294254975 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor guy loses his house on YouTube, and people JUST have to make fun of him because he's an idiot < 1294255179 0 :pumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you mean in minecraft? < 1294255310 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1294255348 0 :pumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was such a sad video < 1294255404 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*hilarious < 1294255429 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais52 < 1294255430 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: < 1294255465 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294255474 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pumpkin, houses can be rebuilt < 1294255481 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1294255485 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: why do not stop the water < 1294255514 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: did you blow up a shitload of tnt or something < 1294255518 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I was climbing up it. < 1294255529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did he < 1294255530 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :confirm/deny < 1294255597 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, is it just my imagination, or are you being incoherent? < 1294255602 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1294255604 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION rereads
< 1294255648 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For some reason, I was wrongy filtering out nicks < 1294255659 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why do not stop the water did he confirm/deny < 1294255674 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's a bit spillover from the game-chat, so it's hard to follow perhaps. < 1294255682 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I need to go eat < 1294255687 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :next project < 1294255696 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :#xkcd-minecraft has a chat bridge < 1294255701 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unnecessary compiler in Haskel :-} < 1294255707 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ll < 1294255867 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ll ? < 1294255882 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294255972 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Haskell", I presume. < 1294256000 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's some hMod plugin for an IRC/chat channel gateway. (And of course a client-based one would be easy too.) < 1294256017 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294256187 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, yes - I was missing a single l :-} < 1294256354 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Hilbert < 1294256505 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do people accidentally burn down houses in MC often? < 1294256535 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Forests more often, I think. < 1294256536 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Any house that I build is likely to be about as "creative" as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQvYJfgv2Y4 < 1294256776 0 :Hilbert!~Hilbert@93.95.81.129 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294256856 0 :zzo38_____!~zzo38@shop.freegeekvancouver.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1294256882 0 :Hilbert!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1294256889 0 :zzo38_____!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :j-invariant: You cannot kill the dragons (the other dragon took away everything you need to do so). < 1294256912 0 :zzo38_____!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But you can use the rule about walking out of the edges of the board, to your advantage, in this situation. < 1294256920 0 :zzo38_____!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Remember this is important rule!! < 1294257107 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Another important rule: Don't set up a fireplace if your house is made of wood and you don't know what you're doing < 1294257191 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How far away does the flame need to be from anything flammable? < 1294257197 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1294257238 0 :zzo38_____!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is possible to block the door so that it won't close. Also, dragons are allowed to move into lava but it is difficult to see due to red color. < 1294257287 0 :zzo38_____!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And if the door doesn't close, you can walk back and forth between those two boards and step in occupied spaces. < 1294257405 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294257429 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1294257563 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294257590 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1294257603 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sdfsdf < 1294257646 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1294257648 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: I don't know the rules, but the fireplace I have in my house is three blocks away sideways (and two above) the wooden floorboards. < 1294257666 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(In the bunker I also have wooden fences directly next to a fire, but I don't know if wooden fences are flammable.) < 1294257707 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it down < 1294257754 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-229-118.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294257770 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seems to be a demand for an istheesotericminecraftserverdownornot.com. < 1294257771 0 :zzo38_____!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: But don't kill BIG_MONSTER. < 1294257780 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, joy. < 1294257807 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Republican legislators in 5 different states are trying to pass laws that would "cancel automatic United States citizenship for the American-born children of illegal immigrants." < 1294257839 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1294257850 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was unaware that states had the power to define citizenship even under very strict interpretations of the Constitution. < 1294257878 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rofl < 1294257890 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, I could've sworn that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." < 1294257892 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1294257894 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ugh < 1294257896 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it stil down < 1294257897 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still < 1294257906 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(source: 14th amendment, US Constitution) < 1294257906 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq: no you misunderstand < 1294257925 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you forgot the 2001st Republican Amendment < 1294257936 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the one that redefines the US constitution as toilet paper < 1294257938 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right, the one that says "FUCK YOU" < 1294257950 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I completely forgot about the "FUCK YOU" clause. < 1294257966 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :see, you should read these things more often < 1294258200 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :on the other hand, NJ is attempting to ban full-body scanners and patdowns < 1294258207 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenoutbreakofcommonsense < 1294258236 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (In the bunker I also have wooden fences directly next to a fire, but I don't know if wooden fences are flammable.) <-- I don't think so. I used them next to lava < 1294258249 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, a barrier for the lava < 1294258280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oi, get to the cube, oklopol is helping < 1294258283 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and there's a huge flood < 1294258286 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we're connecting with excavation < 1294258289 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALL HANDS ON DECK < 1294258321 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :
ACTION wants to help :(
< 1294258333 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: so go and get a debit card. < 1294258384 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I still have fucked up connection < 1294258393 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oklopol is playing from a 3g stick. < 1294258395 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man up < 1294258433 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would it be too annoying to use a touchpad in MC? < 1294258439 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: i use a trackpad < 1294258441 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, dude, I get lag spikes like 50 seconds every few minutes. Against everything. If not working tomorrow I will call the ISP. < 1294258449 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since tracepath indicates it is on their network < 1294258452 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also: Small houses don't need lighting, do they? < 1294258453 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: oklopol is playing on zero to ten fps. < 1294258455 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it is closed this time of day) < 1294258458 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1294258458 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: yes they do < 1294258459 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1294258462 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1x1x2 ones don't < 1294258466 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, since when was I him? < 1294258467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and maybe 2x2x2 < 1294258470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but 4x4x2... < 1294258536 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10fps! That's like what I used to get in SL < 1294258545 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, fucked up times < 1294258654 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vorpal: donate some gravel/sand then, we're on critically low supplies < 1294258940 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WTF is gravel for? < 1294258972 0 :Sgeo_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay gravity-obedient structures? < 1294258974 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have you cleared all the gravel from all the chests by the railway? < 1294258989 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Hmm? < 1294258991 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: No. < 1294259001 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It's for draining. < 1294259005 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo_: It's in the sea. < 1294259014 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Can we have it? < 1294259023 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure < 1294259260 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: We're raiding it now. BTW, you should totes come help out. < 1294259447 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: yo i can't see anychests < 1294259514 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Look closer I guess < 1294259519 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: no show me to them :D < 1294259525 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1294259532 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember where they are, they're just by the track < 1294259542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Filled with a whole 9 gravel and lots of cobble. < 1294259565 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, most of it will be cobble. < 1294259584 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: ok let me get this straight: there is more than 512 gravel we're talking about here, yes? < 1294259686 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably not that much, but there might be a few hundred < 1294259711 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't exactly count what came up. < 1294259751 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And anything and everything may have been pilfered since the digging, of course. :-P < 1294259768 0 :hiato!~nine@clam.leg.uct.ac.za JOIN :#esoteric < 1294259850 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi hiato < 1294259862 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hai < 1294259882 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice to see that you're still alive, ehird < 1294259929 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1294259930 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :totally dead < 1294259939 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bleh, cant seem to get to voxelperfect atm, host name blah blah < 1294259944 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :csb < 1294259955 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: it expired < 1294259957 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you will never get there < 1294259958 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: use esolangs.org < 1294259959 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :try esolangs.org < 1294259970 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa, seriously? Heh, damn < 1294260042 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: so will you help construct the cube :P < 1294260047 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: have you been addicted to minecraft yet < 1294260070 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've been there a bit but not much < 1294260084 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: there = the cube? < 1294260115 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes < 1294260126 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes, it killed my exams. Famous last words: "I'll only play minecraft for a couple of minutes." < 1294260135 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: YOU SHOULD PLAY ON OUR SERVER < 1294260138 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1294260146 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wutyes < 1294260150 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :address? < 1294260161 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: um ask ineiros he officially handles non-Finnish administrations < 1294260165 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Finns get in automatically) < 1294260180 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thanks to Finn Privilege) < 1294260180 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, ok < 1294260204 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, fizzie, Vorpal, me, Phantom_Hoover, Deewiant, and oklopol are on it < 1294260210 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also technically Gracenotes but he never comes on < 1294260214 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros: So, I'm not Finnish, but I think we can work things out. May I play on the minecraft server < 1294260217 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nice < 1294260240 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1294260241 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nailor too < 1294260244 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but he isn't from here < 1294260250 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so oerjan is above minecraft then? :P < 1294260255 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :absolutely! < 1294260258 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: you _may_ have to get a face transplant from a Finn btw < 1294260292 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: oh, and we're wimps, so there's no monsters or health. the fact that we have a high-up transportation system in the sky might have something to do with it too < 1294260296 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: this I can live with. But, I forsee terrible puns. "You got a face transplant, oh, yeah, he didn't finnish" < 1294260312 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I think it gives my face a nice finnish." < 1294260314 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like to see this < 1294260321 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and so on < 1294260338 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: Right now we're working on draining the sea and excavating down to bedrock so we can build a 128x128x128 cube. Out of glass < 1294260340 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*glass. < 1294260342 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lit by lava. < 1294260392 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That is way. too. cool. Though, I imagine you're not nearly 1/83494th into it < 1294260403 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: we've drained like 7 to 10 lines of sea so far :P < 1294260410 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: and have excavated a few pits down to bedrock < 1294260413 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah, it needs more manpower. < 1294260415 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, nicely done < 1294260427 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*mindless power < 1294260431 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: we do have multiple stacks of TNT. but they're running out :D < 1294260432 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which I am happy to provide < 1294260439 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(thanks, item duplication bug!) < 1294260443 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(which is now fixed) < 1294260445 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1294260450 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh :/ < 1294260466 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we'll see if the server can't provide us with some tnt. :p < 1294260476 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's weird < 1294260476 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: btw this is going to take something like 100k glass :D < 1294260495 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no, we do it the navvy way. Spades and picks < 1294260503 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and buckets :P < 1294260506 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i tried to leave spawn point and went far into the sea < 1294260511 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: no, we're clearing the water with gravel and sand < 1294260513 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cleared with torches < 1294260525 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and after 10 minutes i saw my own base < 1294260535 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: xD < 1294260551 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sheesh, you guys have too much time. If only I had known sooner, I wouldn't have had that same problem < 1294260552 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this effect on real desert < 1294260578 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :when you think that you're going straight and in fact you're running in circles < 1294260603 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: btw i dreamed up this cube ... and also built a previous project which is two stairs from bedrock to top altitude (never finished) < 1294260603 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm trying fo find a desert or plains < 1294260609 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because no-one's legs are equally long, supposedly < 1294260611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i _may_ be slightly crazy for a megascale engineer < 1294260624 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: how's that relevant < 1294260628 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: just a tad. < 1294260664 0 :olsner!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: because it's the cause of the effect nooga talked about < 1294260670 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: +1 < 1294260682 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner: ah < 1294260709 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha! < 1294260714 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now i've got my desert < 1294260756 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what ever happened to that pascal redux of yours? < 1294260965 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: i don't remember finishing it :D < 1294260974 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, *I* started making a 200-metre long warship. < 1294260982 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : when you think that you're going straight and in fact you're running in circles <-- isn't that a bit hard to achieve in a game afaik based on rectangular blocks? < 1294261002 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: "22:49 < olsner> because no-one's legs are equally long, supposedly" :P < 1294261032 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: boat-see warship or star wars? That effects the awesomeness of the project, so answer carefully < 1294261036 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: you can move in any direction < 1294261037 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ah well < 1294261061 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, oklopol, tell me when you've used up the gravel and have collected all of the torched columns. < 1294261068 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, spaceship. < 1294261081 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: umm, I'm terrible at torching. < 1294261098 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: +17EXP. Nice, that sounds pretty cool < 1294261107 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yes, but I've torched several columns already. < 1294261124 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: how about we finish this column and do another one and then you come and torch them < 1294261145 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato, turns out that laying the hull on a 200-metre long ellipsoid is very boring. < 1294261208 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :man I just wanna get into this server < 1294261240 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros ineiros ineiros < 1294261344 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :idle : 2 days 3 hours 48 mins 50 secs < 1294261366 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not immensely promising, that < 1294261419 0 :GreaseMonkey!~gm@unaffiliated/greasemonkey JOIN :#esoteric < 1294261468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: almost out. < 1294261478 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: he never talks. :p < 1294261485 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Revving up MC... < 1294261514 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ye olde telepathic alien < 1294262830 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: /msg < 1294262949 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: is it down < 1294262949 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: < 1294262950 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: < 1294262956 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It was < 1294262965 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still feels down to me :D < 1294262983 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well I got in and now I'm falling at y = -2800 < 1294263032 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Chunk loading error lol < 1294263035 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or just no chunks at all < 1294263040 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: just reconnect < 1294263048 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i found a marvelous beach but probably not far enough yet < 1294263061 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I know what it is I was just hoping it'd eventually load the chunk and bump me back up < 1294263068 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: it never does < 1294263072 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: you're online again? < 1294263078 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh no < 1294263079 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: also haven't you been walking for like 10 minutes, and passed through a large forest < 1294263083 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't get back in < 1294263091 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: ? < 1294263092 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i passed through a large forest < 1294263099 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's probably fine then :P < 1294263104 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but i haven't actually been walking for 10 minutes, since with my lag, i walk half the time < 1294263118 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and half the time i'm disoriented, or waiting for walking to start < 1294263119 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: is the beach big < 1294263124 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno yet < 1294263127 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: i'd wait until you hit upon a desert < 1294263127 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just know it's marvelous < 1294263128 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with cacti < 1294263132 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oooh < 1294263134 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :since that's like < 1294263135 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :infinity sand < 1294263142 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: in fact the land you started on was desert biome < 1294263146 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :aha < 1294263146 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back up < 1294263356 0 :Vorpal!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, that castle. marked up outer walls. However it is in a forest. I cleared out the future interior of the outer walls (7 thick) from anything burnable. This will be epic < 1294264082 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Daemon escaped from pentagram < 1294264766 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello < 1294264786 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: sshc is still silent o_0 < 1294264795 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what < 1294264826 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know, the guy who came in here asking for the exact command to install... wait what again? < 1294264843 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SSH, C! < 1294264852 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was not sshc < 1294264860 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and it was orca or something < 1294264865 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea orca < 1294264868 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :who was it then? < 1294264882 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :dunno < 1294264884 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :some random guy < 1294264888 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :welp < 1294264906 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i think he won't be coming here asking ubuntu tech support questions so quickly < 1294265033 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1294265101 0 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1294265120 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1294265134 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELLO EVERYONE < 1294265656 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hello sweetheart < 1294265856 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Coincidentally, for mcmap users: I pushed (a while ago, in fact) a bit experimental opengl branch, which does the map-drawing (and scaling) with opengl. It looks approximately the same and might easily have a few bugs more. < 1294266787 0 :Wamanuz!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294266989 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fuck < 1294267112 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :suddenly, there was no minecraft < 1294267181 0 :Wamanuz!~Wamanuz@78-69-168-43-no84.tbcn.telia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1294267214 0 :pumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1294267249 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: wut < 1294267261 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: OpenGL does scaling really badly < 1294267261 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, while I'm disconnected I might as well update mcmap. < 1294267270 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what's the key for scaling? < 1294267286 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol! < 1294267293 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: an experimental branch < 1294267296 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so pulling won't get it < 1294267303 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: ok so "make" should do compiling fine if you have the libs < 1294267312 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So even the SDL version doesn't have it? < 1294267314 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: then _build/mcmap a322.org:25566 but you probably want options < 1294267332 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: -x N scales every block times N, -s WxH shows WxH blocks at a time on the ma p window < 1294267335 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: < 1294267336 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right, yeah, investigating < 1294267340 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: or if you want no map, just pass -m < 1294267352 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: page-up/page-down makes block-size one pixel larger/smaller. < 1294267355 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: scaling is just pgup/pgdown. < 1294267357 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or -x N on the command line < 1294267359 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, right. < 1294267369 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: anyway, once you start it, you connect to 127.0.0.1 in minecraft < 1294267375 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: It's scaled in the GL_NEAREST mode, so it's just the same as the SDL scaling. < 1294267385 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No bilinear filtering or anything. < 1294267389 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Hmm. Is there any reason to use OpenGL? < 1294267399 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, not much. < 1294267404 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Is the code shorter or longer? :p < 1294267444 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A bit longer, but that's mostly because there's an additional layer of complexity; I render in 4x4 chunk regions into 64x64 textures and draw those on quads. < 1294267462 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'd be shorter for a simpler 16x16 textures, one per block, approach. < 1294267478 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The drawing itself is shorter, I think. < 1294267512 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think the player-direction-indicator might be more accurate there. (But it's still quantized not to cause redraws for all mouse movements.) < 1294267525 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I say stick with SDL ... < 1294267531 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, it's a bit pointless. < 1294267545 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It still uses SDL for input handling, anyway. < 1294267549 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it cant seem to connect < 1294267558 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, do you actually have any plans for large-scale release of this? < 1294267562 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: how did you start mcmap? < 1294267566 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I hope not, not with //goto. < 1294267569 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :./_build/mcmap a322.org:25566 < 1294267580 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: did you connect with minecraft? < 1294267583 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to 127.0.0.1 < 1294267605 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "localhost"; either works. < 1294267612 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, mcmap cant connect, or at least, hasn't said anything beyond waiting for connection < 1294267625 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's "waiting for connection" when it waits for you to connect to it. < 1294267626 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: yes. < 1294267629 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: you have to connect to it first < 1294267632 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with minecraft < 1294267644 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, yes < 1294267716 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-773, 306 < 1294267834 0 :azaq231!~derivecto@p4FF686BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1294267857 0 :azaq23!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1294268310 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: is it down < 1294268360 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: oklopol < 1294268361 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, I figured as much < 1294268365 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :right < 1294268367 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, it is for me. < 1294268375 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ineiros, stop torrenting! < 1294268414 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has come to my attention < 1294268417 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that it is down. < 1294268433 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: oklopol: the server runs on the highly reliable, fast platform of "a spare computer in ineiros' house hooked up to his cable connection". < 1294268436 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :back up lol < 1294268444 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :subsequently, i have pressed the disconnect button, and am currently not able to get in. < 1294268449 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: it's back up. < 1294268451 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good to know our work is in safe hands < 1294268463 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: apparently backups are even AUTOMATIC now < 1294268479 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hoorah for technology. < 1294268499 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wit that, I must leave you all. Early (ish) morning »»», cheers < 1294268555 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: loser :D < 1294268557 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okay bye < 1294268563 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: oklopol demands an mcmap windows binary now < 1294268624 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm just building one, as it happens. < 1294268647 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: \o/ < 1294268648 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :         | < 1294268648 0 :myndzi\!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :        /'\ < 1294268706 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, and by the way, thanks all for that, was rather fun. < 1294268708 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In fact, the only thing that's missing is getting glib's option-parsing parse the single-string WinMain command line. (Unless if there's some mingw flag that makes it use a "traditional-style" main instead of WinMain.) < 1294268719 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Will the ansi colours work? :p < 1294268722 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hiato: np, hope to see you again :) < 1294268724 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and thanks elliott for helping me crack the ip < 1294268738 0 :hiato!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tomorrow is another day, I expect < 1294268741 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I really don't think they will, and neither will the readline input, in fact. < 1294268741 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: um i think you can just use main() < 1294268748 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: since it's a regular "libc" < 1294268754 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, i know there's readline for windows... < 1294268768 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tried to use main, but it insists on having a WinMain when linked, even without the "make a GUI app" -mwindows flag. < 1294268787 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: strtok or whatever then. < 1294268814 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Just write a normal C program with main(int argc, char **argv), and < 1294268815 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then for full Unicode file names use wchar_t strings and the wide char < 1294268815 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :versions of the Win32 API explicitly. < 1294268816 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--mingw lists < 1294268819 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Clearly main() works. < 1294268825 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it doesn't. < 1294268834 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :/usr/lib/gcc/i586-mingw32msvc/4.4.4/../../../../i586-mingw32msvc/lib/libmingw32.a(main.o):(.text+0x85): undefined reference to `_WinMain@16' < 1294268838 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: What command line? < 1294268855 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i586-mingw32msvc-gcc -o mcmap [list of .os] [list of libs] < 1294268870 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe it should be mcmap.exe, actually, but anyhow. < 1294268898 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :jokojokojokojokojoko < 1294268936 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :surely you're joking < 1294268962 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Statically linking perchance? < 1294269018 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: ? < 1294269029 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meh, the prebuild mingw dev packages for SDL and glib only have DLL link-stubs. Anyway, I'll just g_strsplit, and wonder about that later. < 1294269044 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I meant, are you. < 1294269050 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because googling suggests that might be problematic. < 1294269059 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, no. < 1294269115 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A "console" app should use the normal main; maybe I'm just using the wrong flag for that. < 1294269134 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: are you sure -mwindows won't help here < 1294269172 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Pretty sure; that's what supposed to turn it from console app mode to GUI app mode, which definitely uses a WinMain. < 1294269480 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okkay. < 1294269486 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It will need some DLLs to run, I think. < 1294269502 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Zip 'em up? oklopol is supremely lazy. < 1294269518 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess I will. A moment more. < 1294269639 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1294269765 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oklupdate: he's in a hole. < 1294269802 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GRAA froggin glib, it wants also gettext and zlib runtimes. (I linked zlib in statically in mcmap, but, well, apparently that was pretty useless.) < 1294269850 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least GTK folks package those up for me; combining. < 1294269852 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1294270039 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$ wine ./mcmap.exe < 1294270039 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Usage: < 1294270039 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : mcmap.exe [OPTION...] host[:port] < 1294270042 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yay, progress. < 1294270046 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's see if it actually does work. < 1294270073 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: wine testing :-D < 1294270117 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it said "starting up", made a window, then hung up... < 1294270132 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course that might be just a Wine thing. < 1294270140 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Try it with nomap? < 1294270181 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@p4FF685C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1294270188 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, it connected. < 1294270192 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But that seems to be about it. < 1294270199 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe //coords wasn't a good idea, though. < 1294270208 0 :azaq231!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Operation timed out < 1294270217 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Why not. < 1294270263 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, um. < 1294270277 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It connected, worked, then crashed when I //goto'ed to 100 100 in order to test it. < 1294270289 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :** < 1294270289 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GLib-GIO:ERROR:gsocket.c:2347:remove_condition_watch: assertion failed: (g_list_find (socket->priv->requested_conditions, condition) != NULL) < 1294270289 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err:mmtime:TIME_MMTimeStop Timer still active?! < 1294270296 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This all could be more Wine things, of course. < 1294270334 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: If you want to try, http://zem.fi/~fis/mcmap-win.zip -- I'd give it about 8% odds of actually working. < 1294270356 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-1139, 737 < 1294270402 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unzip to a folder, then open a command prompt there and run "mcmap -m serverhost:port" for the more-likely-to-work nomap mode. < 1294270408 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: did it actually work. < 1294270417 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: < 1294270420 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ^^ //goto time < 1294270427 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I guess I shouldn't bother censorshipping the host:port since elliott already blabbed it on-channel. < 1294270431 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, hm? < 1294270435 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I did NOT < 1294270445 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: that was hiato < 1294270448 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hiato: then _build/mcmap a322.org:25566 but you probably want options < 1294270449 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well i did but ages ago < 1294270453 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, you did NOT? < 1294270455 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: he said it before me. < 1294270457 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::p < 1294270459 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1294270467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: it's been mentioned like 5 times now. < 1294270477 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well, the CAT's out of the BAG, anyhow. < 1294270585 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess ineiros can always go to the whitelist-based approach for server administratamation. < 1294270594 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incidentally, "Bukkit will be superseding hMod. Once Bukkit is ready, hMod will no longer be updated." < 1294270608 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Bukkit. < 1294270613 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I no longer have an interest in Minecraft, so this change is for the best." < 1294270645 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Oh, dramahe. < 1294270647 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MWAHAHAHA NOW I KNOW YOUR SERVER < 1294270657 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: but... you have Norw Privilege. < 1294270659 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :until i forget again < 1294270675 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hey0 seems to be rather ... fed up with minecrafters < 1294270679 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Minecraft scene is so lively; people get into the "no longer have an interest" phase already, and the game has just barely reached (official) "beta". < 1294270736 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: I think it's code for "I hate you motherfuckers". < 1294270746 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: He stopped reading and posting to the hMod thread on minecraftforums, after all. < 1294270750 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Ages ago.) < 1294270814 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bukkit project seems to be at least more enterprisey, which is always a good thing. < 1294270817 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Update: oklopol has somehow managed to get to Wonders of the World by accident. < 1294270825 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: He started west of the Cube. < 1294270829 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Then tried to get back. < 1294270835 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apparently this meant he ended up in the far north. < 1294270837 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They have buzzwordy paragraph headings and all in the description. < 1294270927 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"performance, ease-of-use, extreme customisability and better communication between the Team and, you, our users" "unique perspective and advantage" "integrated plugin management system" "philosophy of caring for our community and our users" ... < 1294270972 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, well, oklopol's always been a real go-getter, I'm not surprised he got all the way to the North. < 1294271017 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: BY ACCIDENT. < 1294271023 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: He must have walked around the cube in a gigantic circle. < 1294271385 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur[food] < 1294271398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: please tell me you actually play mc < 1294271525 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sounds hilariously unlikely. < 1294271569 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it'd be great though < 1294271578 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my brain would be permanently confused < 1294271593 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure, and after all oko does too, and *his* nick starts with an o also. < 1294271609 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1294271629 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa < 1294271694 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, oerjan and oklopol start with the same letter? < 1294271698 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :an ø is not an o! < 1294271714 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But an o is an o. < 1294271726 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: do YOU play minecraft < 1294271729 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah, don't make me URLencode those os to see if they're both the same < 1294271731 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no < 1294271741 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :don't want to pay for it, and don't want to pirate it either < 1294271746 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And 0["oerjan"] == 'o'. < 1294271757 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They were the same. < 1294271780 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also want time left in day to do things? :P < 1294271807 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ? < 1294271816 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: minecraft eats up all free time. < 1294271820 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1294271823 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like WoW, but actually fun < 1294271826 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have other things to eat up my free time < 1294271837 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which are also actually fun, but not /that/ similar to WoW < 1294271850 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wrote a new Enigma level this morning, for instance, and spent over 4 hours solving it < 1294271853 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as I was thinking about it the wrong way < 1294271947 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1294271982 0 :augur[food]!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :augur