< 1299801612 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION really, really wants to do what he's previously been told was impossible < 1299801633 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: What things are that? < 1299801637 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: why do you want to know? < 1299801648 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38, booting into an .iso stored on the hard drive < 1299801685 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Try figuring it out... < 1299801716 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Why do I want to know what? < 1299801739 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zzo38: the best sizes for pieces on a chess board? < 1299801763 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: To make the TeX chess program and METAFONT chessboard. < 1299801789 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so by point sizes you mean, as in font points? < 1299801795 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Yes. < 1299801848 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :my answer: there is no best. it all depends. < 1299801862 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OK, I guess that does make sense. < 1299801868 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However I ought to put in some default. < 1299802515 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1299802934 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1299802938 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm < 1299803296 0 :BeholdMyGlory!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1299803909 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bleck. DST starts up again soon. < 1299803921 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I DESPISE YE AND YOUR POINTLESS TIME FUCKING < 1299803929 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299804119 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, you there/ < 1299804144 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is there only one Suzumiya Haruhi movie, or is there another, meaning I'm risking watching in the wrong order? < 1299804822 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :National pastime being screwing around with DST rules (it is in some countries) would be even worse. < 1299804848 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do not like DST either < 1299804929 0 :Zuu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1299804985 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh. I set this script to print high pings in red (normal ones in red). The threshold is 1ms. < 1299805033 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(yes, it classifies 1.2ms ping as high) < 1299805683 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lol @ risking watching in the wrong order when it comes to haruhi < 1299805693 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's funny you should mention that... ;) < 1299805961 0 :pumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1299806139 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUST < 1299806140 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GET < 1299806141 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :libc.so < 1299806147 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUST!!! < 1299806493 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Obsession, thy name is libc.so! < 1299806584 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION secretly bids against Gregor and forces him to pay me for the domain name < 1299806592 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oops - did I say that in channel? < 1299806596 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable: Closed auction. < 1299806623 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that it's a closed auction is the only reason I have a chance :P < 1299807391 0 :zzo38!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1299809080 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1299810842 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: So far, there is only one susùmiya haruhi movie. < 1299810915 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, ty < 1299812067 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, the spoiler I saw some time ago is apparently a very severe one < 1299812287 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What, Haruhi being omnipotent? < 1299812297 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not really a spoiler, that's more the premise. < 1299812378 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq, I meant for the movie specifically < 1299812386 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not ... the premise of the series < 1299812398 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1299812408 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Although I've seen speculation about Kyon actually being the omnipotent one) < 1299812934 0 :augur!~augur@pool-173-73-120-240.washdc.east.verizon.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299813207 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1299813572 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone needs to put a warning for photosensitive epileptics on this movie < 1299813863 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd think Japan would know that. < 1299813873 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1299813876 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Considering the infamous episode of Pokémon only aired there... < 1299813884 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And put hundreds in the hospital. < 1299814290 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299814583 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1299814585 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-226-71.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299814655 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lots of flickering? < 1299814834 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari: yes < 1299814839 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :to say the least < 1299814996 0 :azaq231!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299815032 0 :azaq23!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1299815575 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1299816039 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, should I seek out the Suzumiya Haruhi mangas? < 1299816351 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: No. < 1299816357 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: You may, however, wish to seek out the novels. < 1299816363 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As those are actually the original media. < 1299816364 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :....huh? < 1299816369 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh < 1299816407 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Up to 10 volumes. < 1299816428 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The anime, BTW, covered roughly the first volume. < 1299816450 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I saw the occasional spoiler on TV Tropes < 1299816520 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299816532 0 :azaq231!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1299816557 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sweet. The Jefferson Bible is getting digitised. < 1299816579 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't see how that's particularly sweet < 1299816589 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zwaarddijk: I take it you're unfamiliar with the Jefferson Bible. < 1299816594 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know what it is < 1299816598 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Zwaarddijk: I take it you're unfamiliar with the Jefferson Bible. < 1299816601 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1299816608 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's the subset that jefferson considered uh, good. < 1299816614 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not particularly exciting < 1299816645 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Among other things, it is devoid of supernatural claims. < 1299816648 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes. < 1299816661 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyone can see which claims in the bible are supernatural, so it's pretty trivial to filter those out? < 1299816689 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :of course, here's the point about "anyone can do that" "yeah so, it's trivial in retrospect" etc ... < 1299816718 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yeah sure, it has some historical relevance in that we can learn something about 19th century progressive-religious thought < 1299816738 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm sorry that I like the digitisation of important historical documents. :P < 1299816752 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but when it comes to religious scholarship i kind of prefer the historical-critical methods in actual use by irreligious scholars < 1299816775 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think there's more important historical documents to attend to < 1299816818 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and I don't see why that's particularly interesting. (a friend of mine's been collecting copies of nahuatl codices from just after the spanish conquista, I think those'd be more valuable, for one) < 1299816933 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how much impact did the Jefferson bible have in America, btw? < 1299816942 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :here, it's basically just a footnote < 1299816956 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :did it inspire lots of people to become somewhat more moderate christians in america? < 1299816968 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did those that became moderate become so because of other reasons? < 1299817034 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not opposing the digitization, but uh ... I guess I'm a bit difficult to excite < 1299817049 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Absolutely no impact, because Jefferson did not publish for fear of getting lynched. < 1299817066 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :However, Jefferson *himself* had an absurd amount of impact in the US. < 1299817076 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :certainly < 1299817089 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I think he, like pretty much everyone has even more impact as a kind of < 1299817102 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uh, canvas onto which people project their own idealization < 1299817140 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I also think it's somewhat important to have a digitisation just so that I can shove it at people who claim that "This is a Christian nation; after all, the founding fathers were Christian." < 1299817156 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jefferson took God out of the Bible, your argument is invalid! < 1299817224 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: that's a good point < 1299817250 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but those people won't read the first paragraph of the jefferson bible even if you stick things in their eyes to keep the eyelids open < 1299817278 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In which case I'd much prefer a normal Bible. < 1299817288 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Significantly heavier object for beating clue into people. < 1299817306 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I recommend you get a seriously commented edition < 1299817307 0 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299817321 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those can get rather heavyweight < 1299817333 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1299817377 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you could probably use them for sailing ballast, even < 1299817480 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Well aware. < 1299817493 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is a preacher's child. Those suckers are fucking *heavy*. < 1299817517 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the kind of language game that eisegesis and exegesis really is < 1299817527 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I would like a game that basically just is a big book < 1299817533 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and deriving things out of that book < 1299817550 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting concept. < 1299817553 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which may be why I feel so attracted to the talmud < 1299817561 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know some games like nomic kind of get close < 1299817566 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only problem is that it may evolve into a world religion. < 1299817571 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :probably not, though < 1299817589 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you make the content incomprehensible enough < 1299817601 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not saying stupid enough, I'm saying genuinely meaningless < 1299817609 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the bible does contain meaning, it's just mistaken meaning < 1299817618 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this should be meaning that barely registers as such < 1299817634 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And you'll get bible code shit coming out of it. < 1299817670 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but yeah < 1299817672 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've sort of < 1299817688 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :taken to ~trolling christian fora just for the sake of playing the game of exegesis/eisegesis < 1299817693 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1299817699 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in general, I know the bible and christian history better than them anyway < 1299817700 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so ... < 1299817714 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's not very hard. < 1299817738 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what's worst is < 1299817744 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the bible better than the other trolls too :| < 1299817761 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly because of my interest for the talmud, though < 1299817767 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's such a fascinating thing < 1299817773 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :guys discussing things back and forth < 1299817777 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seldom concluding anything < 1299817797 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and going off on tangents that you can spend days trying to figure out why that tangent even came up < 1299817810 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's awesomely weird < 1299817859 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in a way, I'm happy with the state of computational linguistics the day a computer actually can sort of understand what the talmud is on about < 1299817880 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because then, we have conquered language games. < 1299818144 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :zen koans could maybe be another test case < 1299819140 0 :myndzi!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1299819885 0 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172176.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1299819965 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1299819995 0 :Sgeo!~Sgeo@ool-18bf618a.dyn.optonline.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299820492 0 :myndzi!myndzi@c-76-28-158-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299820954 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | Contrary to public belief[2], portals do not conserve momentum. < 1299821596 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... Wut? There is a JVM written in .Net. < 1299821612 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I put a VM in your VM so you can VM while you VM. < 1299821924 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Do you mean IKVM? < 1299822021 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah. < 1299822105 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has an ahead-of-time compiler too if you don't wan't to VM while you VM. (Though "double JIT" does remind a bit of Battle Programmer Shirase.) < 1299822111 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/wan't/want/ < 1299822403 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm a bit surprised that it works *well* though. < 1299822821 0 :azaq23!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving. < 1299823112 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1299824045 0 :FireFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1299825329 0 :sftp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1299826703 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: there's python written in python. < 1299827179 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1299827312 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater-: Yo dawg. < 1299827339 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qukCulDOJzg < 1299828506 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1299828671 0 :augur!~augur@208.58.6.161 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299828866 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1299830399 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1299830400 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1299832400 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@ADijon-152-1-55-212.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr JOIN :#esoteric < 1299832400 0 :sebbu2!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1299832400 0 :sebbu2!~sebbu@unaffiliated/sebbu JOIN :#esoteric < 1299832560 0 :sebbu!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1299835066 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The glitziest thing ever: http://mbostock.github.com/d3/ < 1299836268 0 :Zwaarddijk!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i just got a defretted guitar :) < 1299836278 0 :cheater00!~cheater@e181128093.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1299836411 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1299836492 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-251-97.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299836496 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1299838728 0 :cheater-!~cheater@g230231074.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1299838832 0 :cheater-!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1299838868 0 :cheater99!~cheater@g231050051.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1299838891 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 246 seconds < 1299841324 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Don't fret, it's been defretted"? < 1299841481 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bass? < 1299842543 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | we're compiling via a functional language < 1299843670 0 :cheater00!~cheater@e181133122.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1299843701 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1299843824 0 :FireyFly!~firefly@unaffiliated/firefly JOIN :#esoteric < 1299845374 0 :FireyFly!unknown@unknown.invalid NICK :FireFly < 1299845569 0 :Phantom_Hoover!~phantomho@unaffiliated/phantom-hoover/x-3377486 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299845846 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1299845846 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1299845846 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1299845846 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :ended < 1299845851 0 :clog!unknown@unknown.invalid JOIN :#esoteric < 1299845851 0 :clog!nef@bespin.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1299845906 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1299846067 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so this japan thing...haven't read the news...is it an eqrthquake or a tsunami? < 1299846083 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1299846086 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@174-22-145-27.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299846170 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1299846183 0 :cheater00!~cheater@e181133122.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1299846278 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1299846291 0 :cheater99!~cheater@e181133122.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1299847035 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Both. < 1299847051 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The earthquake caused a tsunami < 1299847168 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Reportedly the wave height at shore was ~10m in some places. Tsunami from earthquake top off at about 35m wave height (at shore). Some other mechanisms can generate huge tsunamis with 500m+(!!!) wave height. < 1299847222 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, over half a kilometer height. < 1299847330 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1299847894 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ilari, you meant Vajont, yes? < 1299848282 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not really. Even if it was a huge wall of water (~250m). < 1299848425 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, Lituya Bay. < 1299848435 0 :Ilari!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think it was that... < 1299848809 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1299848850 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1299848917 0 :cheater99!~cheater@e181136247.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1299849088 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :microsoft xna is so lame < 1299849146 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1299849147 0 :elliott_!~elliott@91.105.126.112 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299849153 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:42:03 • Sgeo really, really wants to do what he's previously been told was impossible < 1299849155 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:42:24 Sgeo: What things are that? < 1299849157 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :00:42:38 zzo38, booting into an .iso stored on the hard drive < 1299849159 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possible, but *only* with both bootloader and kernel support. < 1299849169 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The kernel runs on the bare metal; it *must* know where to find its files, and thus know to mount the filesystem the iso is on and read it. < 1299849174 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Only some versions of Linux can do this. < 1299849187 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can do this with GRUB 2 and some versions of Linux. < 1299849192 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think grml can do it. < 1299849223 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:23:51 pikhq, you there/ < 1299849223 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :01:24:15 Is there only one Suzumiya Haruhi movie, or is there another, meaning I'm risking watching in the wrong order? < 1299849223 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, this is _definitely_ a hard-to-Google question. < 1299849224 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Definitely. < 1299849303 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Incredibly. < 1299849327 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like the guy in my school who allegedly posed as a girl in order to coerce naked pictures out of lesbians. < 1299849343 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Because there's a shortage of pictures of naked lesbians. < 1299849378 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The only thing there are more naked pictures of than lesbians are people pretending to be lesbians. < 1299849430 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, even if he is some kind of lesbian photo connoisseur it's still way more effort than it's worth. < 1299849440 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU < 1299849444 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :BY WAY OF BAD JOKE < 1299849449 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOTALLY < 1299849479 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In other news I want to get the latest version of Chrome but I have no idea how. < 1299849502 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Chromium < 1299849516 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1299849545 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chromium or Chrome, and which latest version? < 1299849558 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i.e. for Chrome, which channel; for Chromium, which release or... uhhh... VCS commit < 1299849575 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/Chroimum, which/Chromium,/ < 1299849608 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whichever one has WebGL. < 1299849665 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I refus eto let you be Sgeo. < 1299849667 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*refuse to < 1299849679 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's just for a fractal viewer thing that looks interesting. < 1299849686 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/WebGLScreenShot.png "Screenshot from a WebGL-based game running in a web browser" < 1299849689 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meet Sgeo < 1299849691 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm not going to add it to Google or anything. < 1299849740 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, presumably you just want to switch to the official "ever-so-slightly-closed-source" Google version that updates through apt. < 1299849752 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's easier than building Chromium and keeping it up to date. < 1299849757 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean Chrome or... < 1299849765 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1299849779 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So remove Chromium and install the deb from http://www.google.com/chrome (it adds an apt repository, installs from it, and then self-destructs). < 1299849794 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's the stable channel, which should be fine (it has WebGL). < 1299849797 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I use it. < 1299849833 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Anyway, meet optbot. He died, but I revived him. < 1299849833 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: due to the way floating-point works < 1299849850 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. optbot's revival was entirely due to floating-point minutiae. < 1299849851 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: you fail < 1299849853 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: :( < 1299849854 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Version information is in manifest/*.ver within each zip. Contents < 1299849859 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Oh? < 1299849859 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Yeah. < 1299849864 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: OH YEAH. < 1299849864 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: well so was this < 1299849901 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: He sets our channel topic every six hours and babbles in the same way. < 1299849906 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, in other stupid-ring-related news, turns out that rhenium looks awesome but has unknown toxicological effects, so it's unwise. < 1299849908 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Like the good old days. < 1299849914 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EXCUSE ME, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OPTBOT. < 1299849922 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fungot: Competition! < 1299849923 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He was here before you! < 1299849923 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: my english is too bad, but if it did not exceed fnord per gcc session.' then x is done. < 1299849932 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Erm, considering that optbot inspired fungot's babbling in the first place... :P < 1299849933 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: well, at least they're honest < 1299849933 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: arcus translation is better, amiga or atari. < 1299849943 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: fizzie is NOT honest at all < 1299849943 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: fuck < 1299849944 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's still competition. < 1299849944 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*! < 1299849949 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Yeah. You done a bad. < 1299849949 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: "nor will they nerver be integrated"? < 1299849964 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1299849966 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: I hope you're never integrated with fungot, at least. That sounds wrong. < 1299849966 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: and he thought that the outside of that boundary-line was "definition" and then he asked me: What do you think is on the inside of that boundary? < 1299849966 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: or at least a month, and wasn't quite done ( modulo stuff like ipv4/ 6), still, i don't < 1299849981 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: You shouldn't talk to that other bot. He's a bad influence. Also crazy. < 1299849981 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: probably < 1299849984 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Definitely. < 1299849984 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Also, you can't share Gmail messages. < 1299849988 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Why not? < 1299849988 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: Well, that was a fun experiment anyway :P < 1299849998 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: It may have been fun, but talking to fungot is NOT good for your health. < 1299849999 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: windows* < 1299849999 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: is that something you are looking for more bdb like approach. feeley doesn't agree. it " should replace the implementation of tco. < 1299850005 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: It's not good for your... Windows? < 1299850005 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: It's interesting how a beautiful mathematical framework can look all contrived and stuff once you turn it into a programming language < 1299850011 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: You're contrived. < 1299850011 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: 18 < 1299850015 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Behold! < 1299850039 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which beautiful mathematical framework is he talking about? < 1299850137 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, Chrome didn't get Chromium's settings. < 1299850161 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: mv .config/chromium .config/google-chrome < 1299850163 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same for .cache, I think. < 1299850166 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is not difficult. < 1299850172 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Remove the target directories first, obviously.) < 1299850177 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And close Chrome before all of it.) < 1299850185 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Which beautiful mathematical framework is he talking about? < 1299850190 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How should I know? He's a bot. < 1299850250 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know, but these are pulled from the logs, are they not? < 1299850352 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: How would I know? < 1299850449 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[[The "matter at hand" I was addressing was the double standard in ais523's argument, which is relevant, even if you don't understand why.]] < 1299850459 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :— the idiot who disagreed with ais < 1299850468 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1299850716 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how on earth does that moron still have 4 points < 1299850725 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION upvotes MatmaRex for being the only non-stupid reply < 1299850746 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, there are two replies. < 1299850756 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1299850757 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes there are. < 1299850765 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :One of them is stupid, and the other one, MatmaRex wrote. < 1299850787 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"To anyone who thinks this discovery has only dry theoretical importance, you're mistaken: It is no longer possible to righteously chastise people who claim to "program in HTML"." --the same idiot, top of the thread < 1299850791 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So wait... < 1299850796 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The discovery could be said to only have "dry theoretical importance"... < 1299850803 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yet it only "proves" something in "practice", not in "theory"... < 1299850823 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey copumpkin, how's your downvote brigade these days < 1299850843 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, c'mon, that's just a joke. < 1299850854 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Shaddap. :p < 1299850877 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Nope. While this very clever person was able to create a Turing-complete machine in HTML and CSS, it doesn't run by itself. The user has to repeatedly click to step it." < 1299850878 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"ahem, Turing-completeness is about problems, not machines." < 1299850882 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. No it isn't. < 1299850886 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Thankfully this one has -4 points.) < 1299850969 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hackage.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/KindFact < 1299850972 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now this is awesome. < 1299850982 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might just be saying that because Conor proposed it. < 1299850987 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is impossible to say. < 1299851096 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is the whole html/css TC debate? < 1299851101 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone throw me a link here < 1299851179 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :reddit.com/things < 1299851366 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1299851373 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't much of a thread < 1299851416 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i thought it was going to be a bunch of folks being idiots. but it was just one guy. < 1299851445 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, and now half of #esoteric is on him. < 1299851452 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1299851454 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All three of us. < 1299851463 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i upvoted wreckerone though. very insightful < 1299851465 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LIKE BASICALLY HALF < 1299851478 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All six actives, of which ten or Finnish. < 1299851479 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*are < 1299851529 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, so anyway < 1299851539 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRIDIUM OR RUTHENIUM < 1299851569 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRIDIRUTHENIUM < 1299851576 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO ALLOYS < 1299851578 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE MOST DANGEROUS ALLOY < 1299851591 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ALLOYS ARE THE WORK OF SATAN < 1299851702 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.diamondworld.net/contentview.aspx?item=4242 < 1299851703 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HMM < 1299851707 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, what? < 1299851745 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Based on the listed prices for the .5mm iridium wire, it actually seems relatively cheap to make a ring from it. < 1299851761 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Admittedly, metalworking costs need to be accounted for, but still. < 1299851981 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, I need to make the final draft of that Comic Sans essay. < 1299852932 0 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172176.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1299852987 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@63.133.138.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299853056 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i feel ill < 1299853062 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Pythonistas are everywhere. < 1299853065 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They could be in here right now. < 1299853067 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's not safe! < 1299853094 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the keynote speaker started her talk with a quine in python. this had nothing to do with the rest of her talk, so i guess it was there to prove that she's smart. < 1299853098 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was a cheat-quine < 1299853104 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1299853115 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and she was like, "now try writing this in C!" howls of derisive laughter. < 1299853120 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote the keynote speaker started her talk with a quine in python. this had nothing to do with the rest of her talk, so i guess it was there to prove that she's smart. it was a cheat-quine < 1299853123 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh two spaces at the end < 1299853202 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: What is your opinion on Python? < 1299853202 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: what direction? < 1299853209 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: What direction is all the Python? < 1299853212 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Left? < 1299853274 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all i know is it's got me down < 1299853278 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Down. < 1299853278 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I found this, rather interesting: gopher://blubb.ch/11/software/fbf < 1299853280 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.literateprograms.org/Quine_%28Python%29 < 1299853284 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Gopher will set you free. < 1299853309 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Another way of implementing quines is to have them print the contents of their own files. This is made possible by the fact that Python is an interpreted language; in C, such a quine would be impossible, due to the difference between source code and executable file." < 1299853310 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fml < 1299853319 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the slide was only up for a moment but I believe it was one from that page: < 1299853321 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a= 'print "a=",repr(a);print "exec(a)"'; exec(a) < 1299853321 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like the part where these programs aren't literate at all < 1299853335 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: hmm, I'm not sure that counts as a cheat < 1299853341 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :repr? please < 1299853347 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1299853351 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well right, that's pretty lame < 1299853367 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very lame, but maybe not a cheat quine (i'd reserve cheat for programs that read their own source literally) < 1299853370 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :AND exec() < 1299853374 0 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1299853376 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(with the empty program not being considered a quine at all) < 1299853381 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's like, double-cheat < 1299853382 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: well there's that standard lisp quine < 1299853387 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1299853407 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((lambda (x) (list x (list 'quote x))) '(lambda (x) (list x (list 'quote x)))) < 1299853414 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quote is... sorta... like repr... kinda < 1299853423 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, (list 'quote x) is sorta like repr. kinda. < 1299853426 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm what was the one with eval < 1299853427 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whatever < 1299853428 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1299853431 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :10 LIST 10 < 1299853444 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it was a cheat-quine < 1299853447 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote the keynote speaker started her talk with a quine in python. this had nothing to do with the rest of her talk, so i guess it was there to prove that she's smart. it was a cheat-quine < 1299853448 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Cheat-quine? < 1299853449 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stupid HackEgo < 1299853452 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You mean it read the file? < 1299853462 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: RTFEverything else :P < 1299853463 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :333) the keynote speaker started her talk with a quine in python. this had nothing to do with the rest of her talk, so i guess it was there to prove that she's smart. it was a cheat-quine < 1299853469 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: < cpressey> a= 'print "a=",repr(a);print "exec(a)"'; exec(a) < 1299853492 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scheme@(guile-user)> ((lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))) (quote (lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))))) < 1299853493 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :$2 = ((lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))) (quote (lambda (x) (list x (list (quote quote) x))))) < 1299853495 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well that works < 1299853527 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: that quine thing on the literate programmings site just makes it a worse rosettacode... < 1299853533 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :they don't even print the <>= part of the program! < 1299853535 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not really that it was a cheat-quine that makes me ill. it's that it had nothing to do with the rest of the talk, wasn't explained, and was apparently lifted off a web page with no credit given < 1299853554 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the language source itself is the result of compilation, that's like a "quine" that prints out its own machine code < 1299853559 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(not that that wouldn't be impressive) < 1299853561 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*that /that/ < 1299853575 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if it stored its own source and compiled it on the fly :) < 1299853584 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the rest of the talk was dippy too, actually, and the whole thing is just pissing me off. < 1299853593 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, with its own compiler. < 1299853603 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: you haven't told us what exciting pythonicity it was about!!! < 1299853611 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need to keep up, you know. < 1299853618 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: it was about... "data science"! < 1299853624 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Data... science! < 1299853625 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DATA SCIENCE < 1299853630 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's about doing science on data. < 1299853633 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, elliott_ wants a picture of Guido van Rossum looking disappointed. < 1299853636 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also known as: science. < 1299853636 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO < 1299853638 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ALREADY FOUND ONE < 1299853645 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, MORE DISAPPOINTED < 1299853654 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Actually I'd like to see him angry now, please get Guido really angry and/or disappointed and snap a picture.) < 1299853665 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Say you, uhh... < 1299853672 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wrote a Python VM in Perl. < 1299853683 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And, um, made it force everyone to use tabs. < 1299853689 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :snark != anger < 1299853698 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And since you work for Microsoft it's going into Visual Studio 2012. < 1299853707 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And being advertised as Microsoft Python. < 1299853714 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually don't say that, he might cry. < 1299853737 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh, ooh, I know! < 1299853760 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I write voting machines that give every vote to the Republicans. And it wouldn't have been possible, without Python." < 1299853906 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://us.pycon.org/2011/blog/2010/10/02/first-pycon-keynote-speaker-announced-hilary-mason/ < 1299853936 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: "I'm a computer science professor, data scientist, and web geek." < 1299853942 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: WHY IS SHE A PROFESSOR < 1299853951 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this is not the talk, but it is another talk by the same person, this year, so you can experience the /kind/ of pain I just went through: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWszSUm-x2Y < 1299853952 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"She has discovered two new species, loves to bake cookies, and asks way too many questions." < 1299853955 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Poor species. < 1299853961 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :specieses. < 1299853974 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[LOL IT'S EARLY COFFEE JOKE]" < 1299853979 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: _must_ i sit through this? < 1299853984 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to decide now whether to kill myself or go on a month-long binge of exotic drugs < 1299853987 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: YOU MUST < 1299853989 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::< < 1299853992 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: do both < 1299853995 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, exotic drugs. < 1299853999 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THINK OF THE ESOLANGS < 1299854004 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I want to talk about data, and data, and people who work with data." < 1299854005 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And data. < 1299854007 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THINK OF THE PUKE < 1299854035 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ok, well < 1299854045 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"regular" talks coming up < 1299854057 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: plz liveblog here < 1299854057 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, should we send reinforcements? < 1299854075 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WORK WITH DATA BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE FOR DATA < 1299854075 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: just be prepared... for anything < 1299854077 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TOO MUCH DATA < 1299854086 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Liveblog or no reinforcements! < 1299854095 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, we might be able to get a flash drive with GHC on it through. < 1299854122 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Honestly, if I could be in either cpressey's position, or in the position of someone endangered by the events in Japan... < 1299854128 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, it'd be a nice swim. < 1299854150 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Is GHC 6.4 acceptable? 7 won't fit on the hundred floppy disks we have allocated to the task. < 1299854166 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They will be dropped from a helicopter. Please be prepared to dodge as the roof falls. < 1299854184 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno about liveblogging but i'll keep you abreast of any further sickness. < 1299854186 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh < 1299854187 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cooool < 1299854204 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: We're going to drop them so as to hit as many Pythonistas as possible. < 1299854204 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's just what this needs, actually < 1299854218 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Please purchase a device that can read 3 1/2" floppy disks. < 1299854247 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll see what i can do. need to dive back into the fray now < 1299854250 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1299854261 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A true American hero. < 1299854315 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: So, is RTK3 actually worth buying, in the long run? 'TIS MONEYCOSTING < 1299854443 0 :augur!~augur@129.2.129.33 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299854562 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whoa. cpressey came back for...minutes! < 1299854587 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: he was here yesterday too. < 1299854589 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's at PyCon. < 1299854593 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we don't know how much longer he'll last. < 1299854594 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1299854602 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why am i not at pycon < 1299854607 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the 100 floppies should get there in a few hours < 1299854609 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just miles away < 1299854610 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: because pycon is the worst thing ever < 1299854617 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i could meet cpressey! < 1299854638 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PyCon, from the root words pyc (torture-rape) and on (demonic-place), is more commonly known as "Hell". < 1299854745 0 :sftp!~sftp@79.174.49.11 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299854846 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@conference/pycon/x-mcktulsevreylzfb JOIN :#esoteric < 1299854854 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, any news? < 1299854859 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i only have an hour of battery < 1299854860 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: * cpressey (~cpressey@conference/pycon/x-mcktulsevreylzfb) has joined #esoteric < 1299854862 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: your hostname < 1299854863 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: dear god < 1299854872 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: use webchat.freenode.net so it overrides it with your ip < 1299854883 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm at a talk about celery. it's dull. THAT'S GOOD. < 1299854890 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YOU'RE TAINTED < 1299854896 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+b *!*@conference/pycon/* < 1299854899 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Problem? < 1299854907 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wholeheartedly approve... but actually remove that :P < 1299854909 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-b *!*@conference/pycon/* < 1299854911 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::P < 1299854918 0 :MigoMipo!~John@84-217-1-175.tn.glocalnet.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299854925 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, WILL YOU HELP ME WITH MY ENGLISH HOMEWORK < 1299854937 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what talk are you in cpressey? < 1299854943 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: OK YOU WANT TO REPLACE "YOU ARE" WITH "YOUR" AND "YOU'RE" WITH "YOUR" AND "THEIR" WITH "YOUR" < 1299854947 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: it's about celery. < 1299854954 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i got that much < 1299854955 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm going to assume he means literally celery < 1299854956 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: THEN REPLACE "YOUR" WITH "YORE" < 1299854956 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not http://celeryproject.org/. < 1299854960 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's probably actual celery. < 1299854972 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, NO I WANT YOU TO HELP ME SAY HOW AWFUL COMIC SANS IS < 1299854977 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, and my laptop is freaking out < 1299855014 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: it can smell the python. < 1299855023 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suggest uninstalling it from your system to reassure it. < 1299855049 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: http://us.pycon.org/2011/schedule/presentations/1/ < 1299855060 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Comic Sans is French for "not funny" < 1299855073 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i can barely type -keystrokes dropped or repeated < 1299855076 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :More like "without funny" :P < 1299855083 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: SUDO APTITUDE PURGE PYTHON < 1299855093 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :-2.5 or -2.6 or -25 or whatever :P < 1299855099 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i read that as "sudooooooooooooooooooooooooooo appetite" < 1299855104 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, not the ooooooo part so much < 1299855106 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that was my keyboard < 1299855111 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I'm bending it a bit to make it grammatically meaningful :P < 1299855129 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sudo Appetite, the worst superhero. < 1299855150 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" Gregor, NO I WANT YOU TO HELP ME SAY HOW AWFUL COMIC SANS IS" <<< you're still on this? < 1299855160 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Apatite, the best mineral there is. < 1299855161 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol, I need to redraft it. < 1299855171 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :alright < 1299855222 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't get any of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWszSUm-x2Y < 1299855239 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a good sign. < 1299855260 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except that amazing stuff is going on < 1299855261 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How PyCon orders partners: Media, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond. < 1299855305 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :diamond, eh < 1299855323 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: is that the link i pasted earlier? < 1299855343 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes < 1299855347 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, WHY ARE NEITHER IRIDIUM NOR RUTHENIUM ON THAT LIST < 1299855350 0 :nooga!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Media, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Ladder. < 1299855356 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga: yes. < 1299855420 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: welcome to data science < 1299855425 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/ladder/artificial heart/ < 1299855434 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1299855439 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :those things are expensive < 1299855454 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've taken courses like that < 1299855470 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. less hype, but anyhow something about data. i didn't get it. < 1299855505 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: SCIEEEENCE < 1299855508 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data on science. < 1299855511 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's science data < 1299855512 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data science! < 1299855542 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hould try to save battery for more objectionable moments than this talk. < 1299855544 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :later < 1299855553 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: go to guido < 1299855555 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :laterses < 1299855558 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wherever guido is < 1299855558 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :find him < 1299855560 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, why aren't you being WITTY < 1299855563 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and tell him to say hi to #esoteric < 1299855564 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1299855568 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and we will greet him < 1299855570 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with love < 1299855572 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and eternal carnage < 1299855581 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Best kind of love) < 1299855586 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So should I try to get APT guy into PyCon as an agent? < 1299855588 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And murder. < 1299855591 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The best best kind of love. < 1299855601 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*APT Guy < 1299855729 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Meanwhile: http://i.imgur.com/rcna5.jpg < 1299855792 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can I put "IN PIAM MEMORIAM" on [[Chris Pressey]]? < 1299855798 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No. < 1299855799 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1299855805 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1299855854 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so chris is interested in testing eh < 1299855881 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: I have this feeling he's there because of his employer :P < 1299855886 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JUST A HUNCH THOUGH. < 1299855890 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, iridium or ruthenium? < 1299855896 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ruthenium < 1299855913 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: who's his employer? < 1299855923 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Sekrit. < 1299855928 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOKE RESPONSE < 1299855932 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: Cat's Eye Technologies. < 1299855989 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, he signed up for a testing BoF tomorrow... < 1299855998 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so something to do with testing < 1299856012 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: ? < 1299856014 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :are you cyberstalking him? :) < 1299856030 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's just a code monkey afaik. which involves involves writing tests in this Enlightened Age < 1299856040 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i see < 1299856048 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://us.pycon.org/2011/schedule/ < 1299856048 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Conference Schedule < 1299856049 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :E < 1299856049 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := EXTREME PyCon < 1299856050 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*E = < 1299856073 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey being a code monkey depresses me. < 1299856083 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Beats manager. < 1299856090 0 :pumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1299856097 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why, what do they do? < 1299856105 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fuck all. < 1299856143 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :code mlnkey seems okay. you have a chair and you get paid. then you can think about whatever you want when you get home < 1299856144 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1299856198 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Code mlnkey. < 1299856203 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: except it's Python. < 1299856211 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You have to deal with the Pythonistas and their Pythonicness. < 1299856222 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Extreme Programming Best Practices Design Patterns < 1299856223 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :brb vomit < 1299856238 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1299856240 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, I am so glad I have never heard anyone say these things. < 1299856252 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES, DEALING WITH PEOPLE IS THE DOWNSIDE OF THE JOB < 1299856259 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia: also their code. < 1299856264 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Just wait for the First International #esoteric Conference. < 1299856265 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :shit, accidental caps lock < 1299856278 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, where there will be 14 people? < 1299856278 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm going to give a talk on Extreme Design Pattern Practices and how to use your code fu to become a ninja rockstar. < 1299856285 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Whoa, that many?! < 1299856288 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: eh fixing their code is easier than talking to them < 1299856294 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm. < 1299856301 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Depends where it is :P < 1299856314 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Regulars who aren't idiots... < 1299856321 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Finland would be the "logical" choice to maximise participants, but then anywhere in that part of Europe is pretty much interchangable, flights take like 0 seconds and cost £0. < 1299856341 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's a non-negligible amount of American here after all. < 1299856353 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably the UK or Finland would be the best choice... not that anyone would show up. < 1299856373 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is it still normal to say a certain building is "in" a certain street in british english? < 1299856388 0 :blueraf!blueraf@151.81.20.242 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299856391 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhhh... dunno, maybe. < 1299856392 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :blueraf: ello < 1299856416 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, coppro, elliott_, fizzie, Ilari, oklopol, me (I hope), pikhq_, quintopia, Sgeo (arguably), Vorpal (*very* loosely). < 1299856435 0 :blueraf!unknown@unknown.invalid PART #esoteric :? < 1299856456 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :, ineiros, tswett, oklopol < 1299856458 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan too < 1299856461 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan < 1299856462 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur < 1299856466 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: < 1299856472 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :olsner < 1299856473 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nooga < 1299856481 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't respond to pings in this channel. Sorry. < 1299856486 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Everyone else almost certainly doesn't care enough to come :-P < 1299856490 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: what < 1299856491 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: AND WHY IS THAT < 1299856496 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Blame PH < 1299856496 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was my birthday yesterday < 1299856498 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Would ineiros? < 1299856499 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :congratulate me < 1299856504 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: fizzie would drag him along. < 1299856508 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: Congratulations on not dying. < 1299856518 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I wonder if that's a script. < 1299856521 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett < 1299856522 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur, congratulations, you have successfully allowed time to affect you. < 1299856526 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't respond to pings in this channel. Sorry. < 1299856528 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett < 1299856530 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aww. < 1299856531 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett < 1299856531 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett < 1299856531 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett < 1299856534 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett < 1299856535 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett < 1299856535 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett < 1299856536 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett tswett tswett < 1299856541 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1299856544 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1299856557 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i get to come twice? < 1299856561 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett < 1299856568 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: yes, just like a woman! < 1299856569 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ARF ARF ARF < 1299856571 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't respond to pings in this channel. Sorry. < 1299856590 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Either you have rand() calls, or that's not a script :P < 1299856592 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Y'know what normal users who aren't idiots do? Contribute to the Gregoran Somalian Relief Fund < 1299856618 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't respond to pings in this channel. Sorry. < 1299856661 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't respond to pings in this channel. Sorry. < 1299856666 0 :wareya!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1299856667 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, I AM SORRY BUT I AM NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE MONEY TO YOU BECAUSE YOU MIGHT BE A PAEDOPHILE < 1299856681 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Donate to me; I'm *definitely* a paedophile. < 1299856683 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There is no ambiguity. < 1299856721 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :haha you mean you like kids your own age < 1299856723 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hahahahaa < 1299856728 0 :wareya!~wareya@cpe-74-70-142-220.nycap.res.rr.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1299856733 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that thing never gets old < 1299856736 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...elliott that is < 1299856737 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xdDDD < 1299856739 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XXDDDD < 1299856740 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :xD < 1299856741 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyhow. < 1299856753 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_ cannot age. < 1299856759 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's been scientifically proven. < 1299856765 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This just in: < 1299856766 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Dicks dicks dicks. < 1299856799 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait tswett doesn't respond to pings on this channel? < 1299856804 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :que < 1299856806 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Come, now. I don't just say "dicks dicks dicks". I say specific things about dicks. < 1299856814 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Dicks dick. < 1299856821 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That sort of thing. < 1299856884 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Such as "come, now" < 1299856898 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote My penis is definitely way smaller than that. < 1299856899 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :333) My penis is definitely way smaller than that. < 1299856905 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: confirm/deny < 1299856914 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let me look it up. < 1299856934 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the the famous Sizes of Things as Compared to Tanner Swett's Genitalia? < 1299856940 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A true classic. < 1299856944 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No, on reddit. I got about 70 karma points for that one. < 1299856957 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And then promptly exchanged those karma points for money. < 1299856959 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay, 61 karma points. < 1299856963 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's like being a prostitute. < 1299856974 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And yes, the wording and punctuation and everything are all correct. < 1299856980 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ch7hq/it_takes_7_seconds_for_food_to_pass_from_mouth_to/c0sk64d < 1299856999 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Your penis is indeed definitely smaller than that 404. < 1299857011 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/GregorRichards/hdtva_actual_size.png < 1299857011 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is karma actually good for? < 1299857029 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: some guy once redeemed his karma for a golden reddit alien torso. < 1299857035 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It can buy several goods such as blowjobs and blowjobs. < 1299857035 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gold-painted, rather. < 1299857041 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also, blowjobs. < 1299857045 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Someone click on Gregor's link and tell me what it's a picture of. :P < 1299857047 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, not even iridium? < 1299857048 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It is a currency based on blowjobs. < 1299857061 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, god only knows. < 1299857070 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It's a picture of your penis as compared to the sizes of other objects. < 1299857070 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, and HDTV aerial. < 1299857074 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*an < 1299857080 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: oh, okay. < 1299857083 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION clicks. < 1299857099 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Oh, that's an aerial? :P < 1299857119 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I can't tell what that big long thing on top is. < 1299857120 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's an ANTENNA < 1299857137 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scientists have yet to discover what the big long thing on top of tswett's penis is. < 1299857140 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I guess it's an aerial, like Gregor said. < 1299857155 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Quick, go downvote ais523 and upvote __j_random_hacker! http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/g0d5g/breaking_news_html5css3_is_turing_complete/c1k03fg < 1299857161 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here I am using the psychological principle of reverse psychology. < 1299857170 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That thing's a good fifteen feet long. < 1299857178 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Metric conversion: about 5 meters.) < 1299857191 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Jesus, he's up to 7 points. < 1299857200 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who are these idiots? < 1299857233 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/GregorRichards/hdtva_really_actual_size.png < 1299857264 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is that a picture of an HDTVA? < 1299857277 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. < 1299857281 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actual-size. < 1299857288 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :REALLY actual size. < 1299857292 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, it's a picture of this: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=hdtva&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=8433157347537932007&sa=X&ei=ZUl6TZvfDsHirAGsleiQBg&ved=0CEAQ8wIwAg# < 1299857298 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Expect next picture to compare it to the Milky Way. < 1299857314 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's a better link to it: http://www.google.com/products/catalog?cid=8433157347537932007 < 1299857323 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then the observable universe. < 1299857359 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Then Gregor's nose. < 1299857366 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(The aerial is slightly smaller) < 1299857375 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The next picture will compare it to itself. < 1299857395 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Excuse me, having executed a successful Jew joke, the thread of discussion is now over. < 1299857405 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, okay. < 1299857409 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a379/GregorRichards/hdtva_the_one_true_and_real_actual_.png How'd yah know :P < 1299857412 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is Gregor of Jewish descent? < 1299857420 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes. Also ENGLISH < 1299857423 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: You misspelled ``kikeular''. < 1299857449 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: OBSERVABLE UNIVERSE, THEN YOUR NOSE, KTHX < 1299857452 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But "kike" isn't a Latin root ending in a consonant. < 1299857453 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :executing jews is NOT a joke < 1299857464 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That Hubble picture would work too. < 1299857465 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even if they're succesful jews. < 1299857469 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*s < 1299857470 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.firstpr.com.au/astrophysics/hubble-deep-field/Hubble-Deep-Field-1024-wide.jpg < 1299857480 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: I made these YEARS ago :P < 1299857490 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: You must complete the sequence. < 1299857510 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ending with it resting on top of your nose. < 1299857517 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The largest object possible. < 1299857554 0 :oklopol!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm so gonna go out to drink with some friends now < 1299857668 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :memetech.com now completely replaced. < 1299857679 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I will have to attempt to contact the owner. < 1299857681 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What was it? < 1299857729 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oiu manifesto + cap system pdf. < 1299857845 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1299857847 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Emailed. < 1299857917 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: See http://web.archive.org/web/20080411221531/http://www.memetech.com/, though that lacks the cap stuff. < 1299857948 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, right. < 1299857988 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You'd've thought that with all these people trying to make essentially the same OS, some tangible progress would have been made. < 1299858073 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: There's no way everyone's trying to make the same OS; the most common property is distinctness from Unix. < 1299858096 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The fact that their bases (plural of basis!) share quite a bit of material is due only to the *sheer obviousness* of those ideas. < 1299858099 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, well, no filesystem is very common. < 1299858121 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yes, because you have to try hard to be stupid to invent a filesystem if you ignore Unix. < 1299858132 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fair enough. < 1299858409 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1299858498 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION decides to test the Law Of #esoteric Expertise. < 1299858506 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyone in here know about metalworking? < 1299858537 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote Oh god. I've become a metallurgy hipster. Iridium is way too mainstream. < 1299858537 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :334) Oh god. I've become a metallurgy hipster. Iridium is way too mainstream. < 1299858752 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know the tiniest bit about metalworking. < 1299858771 0 :Zuu!zuu@unaffiliated/zuu JOIN :#esoteric < 1299858773 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metals melt when you get them hot enough. Liquid metals can be mixed. < 1299858790 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Metal is easier to work when it's hotter. < 1299858817 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, regrettably not enough. < 1299858818 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: URANIUM RING < 1299858819 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :When metal is cooled slowly, it ends up relatively soft; if it's cooled quickly, it ends up harder. < 1299858844 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/HEUraniumC.jpg ;; perfect ring material < 1299858858 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, in case you missed it, I spent yesterday evening looking up platinum group metals and their practicality as rings. < 1299858868 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, cool. < 1299858910 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which of the platinum group metals is the cheapest? < 1299858914 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Osmium looks really cool, but it has the obnoxious property of oxidising in air to a highly toxic gas. < 1299858924 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, not sure. < 1299858937 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's not really a single source that I can find that's grounded in reality. < 1299858957 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Really obnoxious property. < 1299858978 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[Name]... will you marry me? [PSSSSSSSSSSSHT] "Well, our love will persist beyond the grave." < 1299859002 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(PSSSSSSSSSSSHT is the noise osmium makes when it oxidises into a highly toxic gas.) < 1299859010 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Douchebag Osmium: < 1299859013 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOKS REALLY PRETTY < 1299859015 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, nah, it does it really slowly. < 1299859017 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OXIDISES INTO HIGHLY TOXIC GAS < 1299859021 0 :asiekierka!~asiekierk@078088172176.elblag.vectranet.pl JOIN :#esoteric < 1299859036 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But I still wouldn't want it around my finger for protracted periods. < 1299859037 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like at the moment, palladium is in fact cheaper than platinum. < 1299859041 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Weird, isn't it. < 1299859044 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Interesting. < 1299859049 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still TOO MAINSTREAM. < 1299859066 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Palladium is quite the borings. < 1299859075 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Same goes for ruthenium, although it's normally electroplated AFAICT. < 1299859077 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: DEMAND RADON RING < 1299859096 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, a ring made of gas? < 1299859107 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Demand solid radon ring. < 1299859127 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And rhodium appears to be more expensive than platinum. < 1299859129 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, I did find a source for iridium and osmium which listed prices. < 1299859146 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, rhodium is really rare and really useful, hence expensive. < 1299859155 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :s/osmium/rhenium/ < 1299859189 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found samples of osmium and ruthenium on eBay, although I suspect they'd be even harder to use than wire. < 1299859200 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ^{286}Uut ring please. < 1299859210 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Half-life of ~20s, that's good enough for anyone. < 1299859224 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Rhenium has the second-highest melting point of any metal.) < 1299859252 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LITHIUM RING < 1299859253 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DO IT NOW < 1299859253 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Roentgenium is more noble and more discovered than ununtrium. < 1299859270 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: the highest is tungsten, right? < 1299859277 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: On the other hand, your mom is more noble than ... things. < 1299859290 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, yep. < 1299859297 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I really want a ring made out of CP. < 1299859299 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My chemistry teacher once said something like, "Why don't we make rings out of lithium? Because they would burn your hand off." < 1299859305 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So, ununbium, please. < 1299859310 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, it does appear that others have considered rhenium rings, but it's still hipsterish enough. < 1299859317 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, CP? < 1299859319 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_: made out of... carbon phosphide? < 1299859327 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Like I said, ununbium. < 1299859333 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Also known by mainstreamers as CoPernicium. < 1299859337 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ooh. < 1299859343 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately for SOME reason it was assigned Cn instead of Cp. < 1299859348 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably because of Jews. < 1299859390 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the heaviest element with a Wikipedia article is. < 1299859402 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@conference/pycon/x-xenhdliyylpdqmwe JOIN :#esoteric < 1299859421 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, any news? < 1299859431 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Have the Pythonistas turned you? < 1299859442 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was at a talk about unit tests. it was relatively sane, so i listened. < 1299859452 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm about to experience: http://us.pycon.org/2011/schedule/presentations/245/ < 1299859468 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh man. < 1299859476 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: found a socket to charge yet? < 1299859478 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah, i'm doing this one for your entertainment. < 1299859485 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Looks like it's untriseptium. < 1299859485 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, i'm plugged in < 1299859486 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow, this is a metapresentation. < 1299859490 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I am astonished. < 1299859491 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no, they haven't turned on me yet. < 1299859502 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but have they turned you on?! obligatory, had to, move along < 1299859513 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Darn atomic instability. I want every possible chemical element to be possible. < 1299859529 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there are two categories of talks, afaict: 'novice' and 'extreme'. < 1299859534 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I WANT RING MADE OUT OF AN ALLOY OF EVERY SINGLE ELEMENT. < 1299859540 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: yeah I quoted < 1299859544 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"E = EXTREME PyCon" < 1299859545 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :--http://us.pycon.org/2011/schedule/ < 1299859559 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this does not appear to be an extreme course. so maybe we can handle it. < 1299859561 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, even the ones that don't make alloys? < 1299859566 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: MAKE THEM < 1299859582 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :all extreme talks are given in henry rollins style! < 1299859591 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's a pycon i could support. < 1299859640 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: How much do we have to pay you to get you to run up on stage and yell about how unChristian this evil feminist tripe is? < 1299859671 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott_, OMG BEST IDEA < 1299859679 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :START AN ASTEROID MINING CORPORATION < 1299859692 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MAKE EVERYTHING OUT OF STUPIDLY RARE METALS THAT YOU GET FROM THEM < 1299859697 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Read as "asteroid naming"; well, they already do theorems and stars and things. < 1299859701 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But YES I AGREE < 1299859713 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder what the most promiscuous possible alloy is. < 1299859735 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Helium-Neon < 1299859758 0 :quintopia!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yourmomium < 1299859779 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I MEAN THE ONE WITH MOST CONSTITUENT ELEMENTS JEEZ < 1299859781 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: yelling yet? < 1299859833 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i have to wait for the most embarassing possible moment < 1299859900 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yessssss < 1299859906 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :make sure someone's videoing < 1299860210 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:29:59 Is there anything like the Internet WRT that affair? < 1299860210 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:30:27 I can't think other time that taking firm action against a problem makes it 100,000 times worse. < 1299860210 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sure thing, Barbara Streisand. < 1299860264 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What's he talking about < 1299860265 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*? < 1299860426 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: 09 f9 < 1299861121 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :08:31:10 There is no OS but GNU, and Linux is one of it's kernels. < 1299861121 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES MR PIKHQ < 1299861159 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, YOU ARE NO LONGER A MEMBER OF THE SET OF COOL PEOPLE < 1299861949 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...what. < 1299861960 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rhenium has a higher Mohs hardness than iridium. < 1299862004 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But a lower shear modulus. < 1299862032 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:30:08 ...you made a program that... < 1299862032 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :13:30:10 prints itself? < 1299862035 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHAT IS THIS WITCHERY < 1299862053 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please tell me that was his idiot incarnation. < 1299862065 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1299862080 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1299862781 0 :elliott_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1299862972 0 :elliott!~elliott@unaffiliated/elliott JOIN :#esoteric < 1299863086 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299863087 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | could it be rescripted so that the ball, as soon as it hits it, just disappears and you lose a point? < 1299863617 0 :asiekierka!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1299864044 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/Deadfish#The_language_defined_by_the_Revised_Revised_Revised_Revised_Revised_Report_on_the_Algorithmic_Language_Scheme < 1299864046 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NEW DEADFISH IMPLEMENTATION < 1299864087 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NO!! THERE IS BUG!! < 1299864132 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | !kill 2 < 1299864465 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299864465 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | the protocol must be a valid URI protocol. < 1299864467 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299864467 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | Yeah, I suppose it could be used like that < 1299864468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299864468 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | @unpl flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip < 1299864487 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip < 1299864487 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ cg cj -> cg cj (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299864498 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip < 1299864499 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ cj cm -> cj cm (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299864528 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...unpl doesn't do eta elimination? < 1299864564 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, that's not eta elimination. < 1299864596 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's unpl. < 1299864598 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip < 1299864598 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ a b c -> a c b) < 1299864611 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It expands things that are used in pointfree code. < 1299864614 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t flip < 1299864614 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip is one of those things. < 1299864615 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (f :: * -> *) a b. (Functor f) => f (a -> b) -> a -> f b < 1299864622 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: Caleskell.) < 1299864637 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I see that. < 1299864803 0 :oerjan!oerjan@tyrell.nvg.ntnu.no JOIN :#esoteric < 1299864848 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :argh the bubble wrap of topics < 1299864858 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: wut < 1299864862 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip < 1299864863 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ cg cj -> cg cj (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299864864 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :we did it earlier :) < 1299864871 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :seems like flip^N = flip < 1299864871 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because < 1299864879 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip < 1299864879 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ cj cm -> cj cm (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299864881 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i thought you might which is the only reason i resisted < 1299864886 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip < 1299864886 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ a b c -> a c b) < 1299864887 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip < 1299864887 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ b c f -> c f b) < 1299864889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip < 1299864889 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ c f -> c f (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299864891 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1299864893 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip^3 === flip < 1299864895 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip flip < 1299864895 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ f l -> f l (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299864898 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip flip flip < 1299864898 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ l o -> l o (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299864900 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip flip flip flip < 1299864900 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ o r -> o r (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299864909 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm < 1299864914 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip^(3+n) === flip < 1299864939 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip and fmap, are there any others like that... < 1299865035 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip flip flip flip = flip flip flip, surely... < 1299865069 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh right that's what you said < 1299865081 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION read it as flip^(3+n) === flip^n < 1299865132 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets his cod dinner < 1299865617 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: quick, we need more deadfish implementations!!!!! < 1299865717 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm afraid my dinner is not useful for computation. not until the results reach my brain, anyhow. < 1299865790 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no no i just mean it in general < 1299865799 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i've done the language defined by the Revised Revised Revised Revised Revised Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme < 1299865806 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but we only have 22 implementations < 1299865808 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that's not nearly enough < 1299865822 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. i may have a certain experience in the matter. < 1299865834 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey has done falcon :D < 1299865843 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't tell Sgeo! < 1299865854 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON A RHENIUM RING? < 1299865865 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it doesn't use oob though :( < 1299865898 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Most awesomely crazy Falcon idea: store numbers in arrays of arbitrary objects. < 1299865912 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :X-D < 1299865921 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I might even suggest that... < 1299865928 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Store a natural as a list of log_2 random numbers. < 1299865931 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*log_2(n) < 1299865940 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or even log_2(n) empty lists. < 1299866327 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION gets his troll on < 1299866334 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: psht < 1299866336 0 :Vonlebio!~vonlebio@cpc3-sgyl21-0-0-cust116.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com JOIN :#esoteric < 1299866349 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Waste of time (I'm in #falcon preemptively, mind you) < 1299866828 0 :Vonlebio!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1299866845 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Dammit, Falcon always beats me when it comes down to stupidity. < 1299866874 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Drag to level, beat with experience, etc. < 1299866913 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :quintopia, incidentally, I have decided that iridium is a pretty terrible investment. < 1299867006 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As the suppliers I have found have been technical suppliers. < 1299867019 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And? < 1299867045 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So I wouldn't count on the prices being either stable or indicative of the "worth". < 1299867065 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@conference/pycon/x-xhzjpvxyqhfwayaw JOIN :#esoteric < 1299867074 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As actually refining the rarer platinum group metals is a very tricky process. < 1299867080 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, how goes the conference? < 1299867083 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :still on the metals, eh < 1299867092 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"a raw string cannot end in a single backslash (since the backslash would escape the following quote character)" < 1299867095 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heavy 'uns! < 1299867102 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : "a raw string cannot end in a single backslash (since the backslash would escape the following quote character)" < 1299867105 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lawl < 1299867110 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I like how raw strings aren't actually raw, mind you. < 1299867115 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :literal string syntax in python is a trainwreck < 1299867149 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: I kinda liked James Hague's idea when he suggested that strings should have no escapes at all, and that \n should be added "by default" with printing functions... < 1299867158 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With a few symbolic constants for the few common ones. < 1299867161 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i like that idea too < 1299867165 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, something like it < 1299867165 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(And chr() or similar for the rest.) < 1299867175 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I print \n quite a lot, so I'm not sure I totally agree. Maybe just have string interpolation, but no escales. < 1299867177 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*escapes. < 1299867186 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So if char syntax has \n, you'd say ${'\n'} or whatever for a newline. < 1299867190 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :($ is a bad choice though.) < 1299867190 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, how do you put the string terminator? < 1299867196 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*escapes. < 1299867201 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Same way you put other escapes. < 1299867210 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm at the end of my first "extreme" talk; i couldn't find much difference with the "novice" talks in terms of complexity of content, but the speaker *does* have a kind of gravelly voice < 1299867211 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"foo " + DQUOTE + " bar". < 1299867211 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or. < 1299867216 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"foo " + '"' + " bar". < 1299867218 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But the escaping isn't done at the parse level, no? < 1299867223 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or "foo #{'"'} bar". < 1299867224 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Yes it is... < 1299867254 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought the point is that "foo\n" => "foo\n" and the \n is only substituted when printed? < 1299867270 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1299867280 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whose point was that? < 1299867282 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For reference, my jaw is currently situated on the floor. < 1299867292 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cpressey: I kinda liked James Hague's idea when he suggested that strings should have no escapes at all, and that \n should be added "by default" with printing functions... < 1299867309 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Uhh, that just means that print(x) should add a newline. < 1299867310 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i may be misremembering his post < 1299867330 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://prog21.dadgum.com/76.html < 1299867330 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, so it doesn't s/\n//? < 1299867335 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :er, it's not that one < 1299867336 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's... < 1299867342 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :where is it :D < 1299867367 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: No. That's an unbelievably terrible idea. < 1299867377 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i don't like the idea of i/o functions "executing" escape sequences < 1299867384 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, or maybe i do, but i don't think so < 1299867390 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, erm, I don't understand then. < 1299867392 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe if it was some kind of expand() function. < 1299867393 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i really have no idea < 1299867397 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Uhh, that just means that print(x) should add a newline. < 1299867398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Uhh, that just means that print(x) should add a newline. < 1299867398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Uhh, that just means that print(x) should add a newline. < 1299867401 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :woo multipastes < 1299867405 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: aka printf :) < 1299867411 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :expand() function seems to make more sense, but... lazy/streaming < 1299867412 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And lawd knows everyone loves printf!! < 1299867419 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So it is a message to the print function, not the parser? < 1299867420 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: sprintf!! < 1299867424 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: THERE IS NO \N < 1299867429 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :print(x) := print(x); printnewline() < 1299867429 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :good god < 1299867443 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, NOW I AM THE CONFUSED < 1299867448 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OH RIGHT < 1299867451 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THAT MAKES SENSE < 1299867461 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pascal < 1299867463 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Write() < 1299867465 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WriteLn() < 1299867469 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: haskell < 1299867470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :putStr < 1299867471 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :putStrLn < 1299867475 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although putStr is ugly) < 1299867509 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, i should write a real forth os rather than trying to finish this 510-byte thing :) < 1299867518 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :butbutbut i almost have a compiler... < 1299867521 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in haskell it should be Ln . putStr < 1299867532 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: that... almost makes sense < 1299867534 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :except not really < 1299867542 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :data Output = Str String | Ln [String]? < 1299867561 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, what's wrong with putStr? < 1299867575 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, Ln x just appends a newline to the string x... then you putStr it. < 1299867595 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: It's ugly. < 1299867600 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: that would be "putStr . Ln". < 1299867602 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you have high standards, but how can you mess up an output function that simple? < 1299867606 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then Ln would have to be a constructor, not a function. < 1299867609 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: IT'S NOT A BAD FUNCTION < 1299867610 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S A BAD NAME < 1299867614 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh. < 1299867618 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're misinterpreting simple statements a lot today :P < 1299867623 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's what i wanted to write, but i forgot which compose operator did which < 1299867624 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :All two of 'em. < 1299867633 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: there is no operator for the other way around (unless you define one) < 1299867636 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, at no point did you indicate you were talking about the name rather than the function. < 1299867643 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there isn't? hm < 1299867649 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder what i was thinking of then < 1299867649 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Considering that cpressey's and my points were names... < 1299867653 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : pascal < 1299867653 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Write() < 1299867653 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : WriteLn() < 1299867653 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cpressey: haskell < 1299867653 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : putStr < 1299867654 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : putStrLn < 1299867660 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: F#? :-P < 1299867662 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scala? < 1299867671 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Demonic Functional Language from Hell? AKA: Scala? < 1299867677 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Demonic Functional Language from Hell? AKA: F#? < 1299867679 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :everyone must learn Scala < 1299867680 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Demonic Functional Language from Hell? AKA: Haskell? < 1299867688 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey, NOOO < 1299867692 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :DON'T TURN INTO SGEO < 1299867694 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: everyone must learn Scala, or every other language < 1299867695 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's equivalent < 1299867698 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Scala is the hot new thing because no one uses it < 1299867709 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :therefore: talk about a lot! < 1299867728 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway < 1299867733 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :bbl < 1299867735 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1299867752 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That cpressey, so zany. < 1299867788 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey is to languages what I am to metals. < 1299867798 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No...he's not? < 1299867816 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wait, no, that's completely wrong. < 1299867824 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Sgeo* is to languages what I am to metals. < 1299867837 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sexually attracted to? < 1299867842 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...no? < 1299867844 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Yes, exactly. < 1299867854 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: I cannot attribute Sgeo's behaviour to anything other than languagephilia. < 1299867859 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(A cromulent word.) < 1299867895 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, neophilia seems more appropriate. < 1299867909 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: COBOL :-D < 1299867928 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, "neo" in the sense of "I haven't used it before". < 1299867937 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Joke. < 1299868088 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=271521 < 1299868101 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chuck Norris is so badass sanity flees from him. < 1299868156 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<3 < 1299868191 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Chuck Norris is the only person who knows how bad jokes about him ar < 1299868193 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :e < 1299868223 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable, WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ON RHENIUM < 1299868224 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Order Chuck's brand new book, "The Official Chuck Norris Fact Book: 101 of Chuck's Favorite Facts and Stories" < 1299868224 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Read more: U.S. public schools: Progressive indoctrination camps http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=271521#ixzz1GJtbVKvc < 1299868227 0 :cheater00!~cheater@e181137172.adsl.alicedsl.de JOIN :#esoteric < 1299868256 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Re is a chemical. That is all :-) < 1299868308 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :variable, ACKNOWLEDGE ITS AWESOMENESS < 1299868318 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION smacks Phantom_Hoover  < 1299868362 0 :cheater99!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1299868665 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=878UP&x=0&y=0 < 1299868685 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Serial number A-113. Model "CARL FREDRECKSENS". Experimental balloon-type aircraft. < 1299869054 0 :BeholdMyGlory!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory JOIN :#esoteric < 1299869067 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, the picture is much more interesting than that information. < 1299869154 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: I like the part where you didn't show us a picture. < 1299869154 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://i.imgur.com/tC1aZ.jpg < 1299869157 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn. < 1299869167 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I agree. Damn. < 1299869172 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1299869175 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :is that real. < 1299869178 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1299869192 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It would be kind of silly if it weren't real. < 1299869192 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmmbut, i thought some totally sciency people concluded you'd need like, so many balloons :| < 1299869195 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how can i believe this picture. < 1299869205 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Hey, we made an imaginary thing based on an imaginary thing. Isn't that awesome?" < 1299869210 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CLEARLY < 1299869211 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suppose the house is really light or something. < 1299869224 0 :pumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1299869261 0 :variable!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 260 seconds < 1299869278 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1299869278 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Besides, these balloons are big. < 1299869322 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's what... she... said? < 1299869326 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In response to seeing that picture. < 1299869704 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : cpressey: there is no operator for the other way around (unless you define one) <-- Control.Arrow.>>> < 1299869720 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah, if you're an elitist academician < 1299869746 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, it's wantonly wasteful of a scarce resource. < 1299869757 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You misspelled "awesome". < 1299869777 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, HELIUM SHORTAGE IS A REAL PROBLEM < 1299869786 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: true. < 1299869821 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Fecking US government. < 1299869827 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip < 1299869827 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ cg cj -> cg cj (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299869842 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course. < 1299869849 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip < 1299869849 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ cj cm -> cj cm (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299869866 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@type flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip flip < 1299869877 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh god. < 1299869881 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thread killed < 1299869886 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1299869888 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip < 1299869888 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ a b c -> a c b) < 1299869891 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip < 1299869891 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ b c f -> c f b) < 1299869901 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip^(3+n) === flip^n < 1299869902 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip < 1299869902 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ c f -> c f (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299869904 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trivial to see < 1299869927 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@unpl flip flip flip flip < 1299869927 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(\ f l -> f l (\ g h i -> g i h)) < 1299869936 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It looks like flip flip flip = flip flip flip flip. < 1299869939 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip flip flip flip === (flip flip) flip flip === flip flip flip < 1299869945 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip^(3+n) === flip^n. < 1299869962 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :flip flip flip X === (flip flip) flip X === flip X flip. < 1299869964 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if X == flip... < 1299869968 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Indeed. < 1299869988 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 240 seconds < 1299870002 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But flip^(3+n) === flip^n means that this thing has period 3. It doesn't; it has period 1 starting at 3. < 1299870011 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :uH, NO. < 1299870013 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Uh, no. < 1299870015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That would be flip^3n. < 1299870028 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :4 == 3+1. < 1299870033 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ergo flip^4 == flip^3. < 1299870048 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You may now commit seppuku. < 1299870053 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let n = 1 in "flip^(3+n) === flip^n". Tell me what you get. < 1299870054 0 :Deewiant!~deewiant@cs186230.pp.htv.fi JOIN :#esoteric < 1299870077 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err. < 1299870083 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Did I say === flip^n? < 1299870088 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I meant === flip^3, of course. < 1299870094 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whew. < 1299870113 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Please coperate with this channel's strict diaeresis mark requirements | I couldn't think of a more relevant word with a diaeresis ... | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ < 1299870118 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Alternateively: NOPE IT'S RIGHT CLEARLY YOU'RE RETARDED < 1299870130 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You're right about one thing. < 1299870143 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least one thing, I mean. < 1299870158 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Out of all the things you've ever said. < 1299870164 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299870164 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | but you're only supposed to pass things in the char range or EOF as arguments to it < 1299870169 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Excuse me, optbot has returned. < 1299870169 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: [1 % 2,1 % 8,0 % 1,(-1) % 192,0 % 1,1 % 2880,0 % 1,(-17) % 645120,0 % 1,31 % 14515200,0 % 1,(-691) % 3832012800,0 % 1,5461 % 5115781120,0 % 1,(-929569) % 64134053888,0 % 1,(-3202291) % 3593732096,0 % 1,221930581 % 16817061888,0 % 1,(-4722116521) % 2090860544,0 % 1,968383680827 % 12415139840,0 % 1,(-14717667114151) % 7415529472,0 % 1,2093660879252671 % 11005853696,0 % 1,86125672563201181 % 5637144576,0 % 1] < 1299870176 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Please follow Optbot Topic Policy, i.e. HE OWNZ UR SHIT < 1299870185 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Note: POLICY NOT ACTUALLY A POLICY) < 1299870189 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299870189 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | doesn't work. < 1299870191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1299870193 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Best topic. < 1299870196 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :+t < 1299870196 0 :ChanServ!unknown@unknown.invalid MODE #esoteric :-t < 1299870201 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LAWL < 1299870205 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1299870216 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My @ gives me no real power :( < 1299870222 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :Please coperate with this channel's strict diaeresis mark requirements | I couldn't think of a more relevant word with a diaeresis ... | http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ < 1299870235 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Who opped Gregor? < 1299870255 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did. < 1299870257 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With magic. < 1299870258 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And ponies. < 1299870302 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: ö käÿ < 1299870373 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you know oerjan, I'm fairly sure you can add ops to chanserv >:D < 1299870374 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like say < 1299870375 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1299870377 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or < 1299870378 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :me < 1299870391 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes, i'm pretty sure i can do that < 1299870432 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1299870434 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you should do that now. < 1299870445 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm not quite so sure of that. < 1299870457 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: op me < 1299870472 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could add the relevant access to, say, some long-lasting, relatively-mild-mannered user with a capitalized nick. < 1299870492 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes i could also do that. < 1299870498 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You shouldn't do that. < 1299870502 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You should give it to oklopol < 1299870504 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And lambdabot. < 1299870514 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You could also add the access to fungot, our most important member. < 1299870514 0 :fungot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: that's not too difficult to implement than malloc. < 1299870517 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES < 1299870519 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You see? < 1299870528 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, do you agree that rhenium is the best? < 1299870529 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Wait, give it to Deewiant. or ais523. Nobody could ever possibly object to them ever. < 1299870538 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: For which purposes? < 1299870551 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, jewellery. < 1299870591 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I object to Deewiant. He's a deewiant. < 1299870594 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Err, deviant. < 1299870595 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whatever. < 1299870607 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think he might be Russian too. < 1299870616 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, that's lament. < 1299870627 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you may notice lament is already an op. < 1299870638 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was making a bad joke w.r.t. v->w :P < 1299870644 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: I'm guessing it wouldn't be very hilarious if you opped me. How can I convince you that opping me is what you want? < 1299870645 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he's in Finland. same thing < 1299870664 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, tswett approach to the AI Box problem: "Hey human, how can I convince you to let me out of the box?" < 1299870674 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: i am not aware that russian uses overly much w's... < 1299870676 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"You can't." "Damn." < 1299870678 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Iridum. Covered in precious gemstones. < 1299870685 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Garish! < 1299870688 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, TOO MAINSTREAM < 1299870688 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(avoid the diamond; those suckers have no real value) < 1299870694 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`quote 334 < 1299870696 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's a good approach to some things that are not the AI Box problem. < 1299870702 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: But not getting opped :P < 1299870711 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know. Gregor hasn't spoken yet. < 1299870717 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299870718 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe he's planning to op me but hasn't gotten around to it. < 1299870735 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HackEgo, Y U NO WORK < 1299870835 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WHY IS THIS SUCH A LAME. < 1299870850 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Stupid no-good nasm. < 1299870883 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, the ultra-relevant quote in question is 334) Oh god. I've become a metallurgy hipster. Iridium is way too mainstream. < 1299870909 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/wiki/BitZ fml < 1299870912 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :For a non-mainstream metal, I suggest... < 1299870919 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was into iridium before the stars started producing it. < 1299870957 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I was into hydrogen before atoms. < 1299870967 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...Rutherfordium. < 1299870982 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :No output. < 1299870990 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, radioactives need not apply. < 1299871034 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HELIUM < 1299871034 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Okay. Lemme see. < 1299871041 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Osmium... that's definitely way too mainstream. < 1299871044 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1299871048 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But Osmium was Phantom_Hoover's favourite! < 1299871057 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately, Douchebag Osmium: < 1299871061 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOOKS INCREDIBLY PRETTY < 1299871062 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : < 1299871068 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OXIDISES INTO HIGHLY TOXIC GAS < 1299871074 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Samarium. < 1299871087 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :How's about some californium? < 1299871089 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's multiple letters away from semen! < 1299871095 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Californium obviously) < 1299871099 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If you want a non-mainstream metal, go with samarium. < 1299871108 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Go with [insert metal band here] < 1299871130 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION can't name any non-mainstream metal bands, so. < 1299871142 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: NIRVANA < 1299871144 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats himself < 1299871151 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett, rhenium was last to be discovered! < 1299871153 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, sure I could *say*, say, Black Sabbath, but that's pretty mainstream. < 1299871157 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nope. Samarium. < 1299871160 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Can't get more mainstream than that. < 1299871161 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION swats elliott < 1299871164 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*non-mainstream < 1299871183 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: samarium! < 1299871183 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: for some the length mod 3 might be important ;) < 1299871185 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: Talk to tswett. He's lonely. < 1299871185 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Universe hates you? < 1299871186 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...wow. < 1299871189 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nice timing. < 1299871189 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Alt rock ≠ metal, you jerk. :P < 1299871204 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: And Nirvana =/=/==/=/=/ alt rock! < 1299871206 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CIRCLE OF LIFE < 1299871231 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot: say something coincidentally relevant to the situation, so I can feel awesome! < 1299871231 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Seems to work. < 1299871241 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It works to make you feel awesome. < 1299871248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Anyway, it's not coincidence, it's strong AI. < 1299871268 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You crazy Brits. < 1299871271 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a quote from the movie Rango is appropriate here. < 1299871275 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Damn." --Rattlesnake Jake, "Rango" < 1299871295 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think a quote from the movie [insert movie here] is appropriate here. < 1299871303 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes." --[character], "[movie]" < 1299871319 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hey, that's also a Rango quote. < 1299871325 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMG! < 1299871329 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Yes." --Rango, "Rango" < 1299871330 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Here's another. < 1299871331 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"the" < 1299871347 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think Rango also said that. < 1299871361 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Though he might have said "them" instead. < 1299871368 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Maybe he didn't and you just didn't notice. < 1299871371 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(As part of a line, of course.) < 1299871373 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he did say "the" in some other instance. < 1299871384 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: MAYBE HE NEVER USED THE WORD "E" THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE MOVIE < 1299871389 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Despite saying "Yes". < 1299871391 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... < 1299871393 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He said, "I'm the law." Or maybe, "I am the law." < 1299871393 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Letter "e". < 1299871398 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ellipses also help. < 1299871405 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :They help what? < 1299871415 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"I [...] love [...] s [...] e [...] x [...] with [...] men." -- Rango, "Rango" < 1299871433 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't know if he said "love" or any word containing "x". < 1299871447 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He probably said "with", but I don't know about "men". < 1299871458 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[...] lay with men as you would lay with woman [...]" — God. < 1299871459 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: I haven't watched the movie, and don't intend to :P < 1299871464 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Perfect :P < 1299871502 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Stone [...] women." --God < 1299871505 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*women[...]. < 1299871521 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, he definitely said "with". The phrase "with just one bullet" was said many times by multiple characters. < 1299871538 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm pretty sure you can just go with "Stone women [...]". < 1299871545 0 :coppro!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :1/win 2 < 1299871551 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"[...]get [...] stone[...]d." --God < 1299871562 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :As you are suppose to stone women who exhibit infidelity. < 1299871578 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yah, but is it in that order i nthe Bible :P < 1299871589 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In at least one translation. < 1299871604 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In the Bible, it's more like "[...] nmw ntS". < 1299871612 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Except the words are Hebrew. < 1299871618 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*in the < 1299871627 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: What did this channel ever do without your stunning intellect? :-P < 1299871630 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Thy win is evident. < 1299871643 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: you'd probably all be dead. < 1299871645 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Note: "nmw ntS" is a common Welsh idiom. < 1299871651 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It means "I". < 1299871656 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, no. You'd probably all be alive if it weren't for me. < 1299871657 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*is also < 1299871666 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Darn, I hate being dead. < 1299871668 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Don't be ridiculous. "ntS" doesn't have any vowels. < 1299871669 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Which I'm not. < 1299871681 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Um, the joke is that Welsh has no vowels :P < 1299871687 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect you realise this. < 1299871698 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sadly, it actually does. < 1299871703 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Vowels such as "w" and "y". < 1299871713 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My joke is that I'm recognizing your joke and choosing to ignore it. < 1299871733 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You can tell that I got the joke by the fact that I picked "ntS", which indeed has no vowels, rather than "nmw", which does have a vowel. :P < 1299871745 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Let's stone tswett. < 1299871793 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Note: "nmw ntS" is a common Welsh idiom. <-- WHY ISN'T NDRYLLIOG HERE TO CONFIRM... < 1299871800 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :You cannot effectively stone me! I am this big! < 1299871802 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He's French. < 1299871803 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :YES, BECAUSE HE'S WELSH < 1299871808 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION holds up his hands, a certain distance apart. < 1299871810 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: We have SO MUCH CANNABIS. < 1299871818 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Bloody French, never came through for us.) < 1299871828 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Smelly. Unwashed. < 1299871829 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rude. < 1299871830 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: by that do you mean you're too small for us to hit you, or to big for the stones to have any effect? < 1299871832 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Wine-drinking artfags! < 1299871836 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*too < 1299871839 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the latter. < 1299871844 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1299871850 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, yeah, but they hate the English too so I need to like them to count as Scottish. < 1299871853 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION casually picks up a nearby mountain. < 1299871856 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :At least the Normans had the common decency to *invade*, rather than just be wine-drinking artfags mocking us! :P < 1299871879 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: just a casual question: where are you, relative to the mountain, as you're holding it? < 1299871884 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Please refrain from usage of "us", Americunt. < 1299871887 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WE DISOWNED YOU < 1299871895 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm of British descent, now shaddup. < 1299871901 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: SO'S EVERY FUCKING AMERICAN X-D < 1299871911 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Not really. < 1299871913 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :GREGOR is of British descent. < 1299871915 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: German is the most common ancestry. < 1299871916 0 :pumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION was born in england < 1299871918 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yet shows no signs of ``humour''. < 1299871920 0 :pumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is awesome < 1299871931 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :By far. < 1299871931 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(He unfortunately shows irritating symptoms of ``humor'' on a regular basis.) < 1299871935 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I have no idea what sort of descent I'm of. It must be mostly European, since I seem to be white. < 1299871943 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no clearly it's african. < 1299871947 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :per logic. < 1299871960 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, WHAT KIND OF BRITISH DESCENT < 1299871960 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Definitely South African. < 1299871965 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT < 1299871966 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (Bloody French, never came through for us.) <-- i vaguely recall reading recently they _did_ try to help some scottish faction against the english at one time... < 1299871973 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: England. < 1299871974 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There are white Africans out there, but, you know. A black swan in the hand does not imply causation. < 1299871985 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan, there's something called the "Auld Alliance" but I never actually found out what it entailed. < 1299871989 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Worcestershire, to be specific. < 1299871998 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_ makes sauce. < 1299872015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :`addquote There are white Africans out there, but, you know. A black swan in the hand does not imply causation. < 1299872018 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Worcester, to be even more specific. < 1299872020 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :335) There are white Africans out there, but, you know. A black swan in the hand does not imply causation. < 1299872022 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What is it with crazy people and being quotable. < 1299872035 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: your ancestors are from Worcester? That would explain a lot. < 1299872040 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :A LOT < 1299872042 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : oerjan: just a casual question: where are you, relative to the mountain, as you're holding it? <-- as i'm using the famed munchhausen method, i am above it. < 1299872048 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But there were all kinds of weird olde-European alliancy things, like Queen Mary marrying the dauphin. < 1299872049 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah. < 1299872049 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Yes, hence the last name of "Worcester". < 1299872072 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION climbs on top of the mountain and shoots oerjan. < 1299872100 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: -rw-r--r-- 1 elliott elliott 0 2011-01-13 23:45 11.02.29 < 1299872104 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: hg fail < 1299872105 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gee, I sure hope there are no hawks up here. That would make me really regret this piece of gratuitous exposition. < 1299872174 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : What is it with crazy people and being quotable. <-- now is _that_ correlation or causation? < 1299872194 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it's tswettation. < 1299872197 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a cross between neithe < 1299872199 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*neither < 1299872223 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: hawks? < 1299872247 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes, hawks. They're the only thing mentioned in the movie that I'm afraid of. < 1299872258 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which movie. < 1299872261 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rango. < 1299872265 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah. < 1299872273 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: hmm for arrow purposes (a,b) behaves like (\x -> if x then b else a), right? < 1299872275 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why did they mention my fears in that movie? I'm not a movie character. < 1299872276 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as in, isomorphihic. < 1299872278 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wait. < 1299872279 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that isn't right. < 1299872286 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :can't have polymorphic return. < 1299872293 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bool -> Either a b, then. except that's not right either. < 1299872308 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(a,b) acts like how you do tuples in LC, then :-P < 1299872308 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: in fact you were lucky, when you shot me i briefly lost my grip and the mountain fell and crushed some hawks. < 1299872316 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also a small city, but never mind. < 1299872328 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, neat. < 1299872345 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: wat < 1299872362 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: (a,b) acts like (\x. x a b) in the LC for Arrow instance purposes, right? < 1299872377 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just say yes. < 1299872387 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: http://goo.gl/IYgRQ < 1299872410 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION shoots at his computer screen. < 1299872418 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damn, you fooled me. < 1299872433 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh you want a (,) instance? i don't think you can do that as both type arguments are covariant... < 1299872447 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: err ((,) t) is an arrow. < 1299872448 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no? < 1299872451 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (***) < 1299872452 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (a :: * -> * -> *) b c b' c'. (Arrow a) => a b c -> a b' c' -> a (b, b') (c, c') < 1299872459 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::t (&&&) < 1299872460 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :forall (a :: * -> * -> *) b c c'. (Arrow a) => a b c -> a b c' -> a b (c, c') < 1299872462 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: arrows take _two_ type arguments < 1299872468 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: err right < 1299872469 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(,) is an arrow. < 1299872470 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :> (1,2) (&&&) (3,4) < 1299872470 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Couldn't match expected type `t1 -> t2 -> t' < 1299872470 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : against inferred type ... < 1299872472 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :huh. < 1299872476 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i swore it was :) < 1299872482 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :@src Arrow < 1299872482 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :class Arrow a where < 1299872482 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : arr, pure :: (b -> c) -> a b c < 1299872482 0 :lambdabot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : (>>>) :: a b c -> a c d -> a b d < 1299872489 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how in the world would you implement arr < 1299872491 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, right, you can't do arr and pure :D < 1299872494 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*arr/pure < 1299872499 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: i just kinda assumed ;( < 1299872509 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :because of all the *** and &&&s involving tuples :D < 1299872512 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it's essentially a monad, Writer < 1299872521 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(assuming t Monoid) < 1299872532 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: arr f = (x, f x) where x = undefined < 1299872534 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TADA < 1299872535 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :We need to convince Kevin Bacon to do a movie with a bunch of mathematicians as extras. < 1299872546 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wants someone to have an Erdős-Bacon number of 2! < 1299872550 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: A film about Paul Erd\Hos, too. < 1299872553 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using stock footage. < 1299872558 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :JOIN THIS FILM, INCREASE YOUR NUMBERS < 1299872565 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, you aren't a mathematician! < 1299872570 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: the tuples are in _addition_ to the arrow type. also i'm pretty sure you're supposed to have arr id >>> x = x and such things < 1299872573 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :* pikhq_ wants someone to have an Erdős-Bacon number of 2! < 1299872576 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :someone < 1299872598 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: WELL OK MR SMARTY FANCY PANTS < 1299872598 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Actually, because of *just that* happening, Erdős has an Erdős-Bacon number of 3. < 1299872607 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I know. < 1299872610 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: I'm trying to COMBINE the concepts. < 1299872625 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :omg, Er\Hdos and Bacon can have an Er\Hdos-Bacon number of 1. < 1299872627 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :If only Kevin Bacon were in it. < 1299872635 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :just make a KEvin Bacon film with stock footage of Erd\Hos. < 1299872637 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(it's \H right?) < 1299872639 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Kevin < 1299872644 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Er\Hdos or Erd\Hos? < 1299872652 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's Erdős. < 1299872656 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Why did they mention my fears in that movie? I'm not a movie character. <-- synchronicity, duh < 1299872656 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, COMPOSE < 1299872663 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Actually, can't get Kevin Bacon to have a Bacon number of 1; Erdős is dead. < 1299872670 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: Err, latter :P < 1299872677 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: ... < 1299872677 0 :tswett!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is it Erdös or Erdõs? :P < 1299872681 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Erd\Hos. < 1299872685 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :number. < 1299872686 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is. < 1299872688 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not a Bacon number. < 1299872700 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_: Anyway, appearing in a film with stock footage of Erd\Hos has been counted for your Erd\Hos number. < 1299872703 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :tswett: It's Erdős, not Erdös. Erdős was Hungarian. < 1299872707 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So Bacon could easily get an Erd\Hos number of 1. < 1299872713 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And Erd\Hos a Bacon number of 1. < 1299872718 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Giving them both an Erd\Hos-Bacon number of 1. < 1299872775 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, but the Erd\Hos number is for papers, not films. < 1299872790 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It's for collaborations. < 1299872796 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Playing ping-pong with him should count! < 1299872804 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or maybe only if you're doing it doubles, and he's on your side. < 1299872809 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : omg, Er\Hdos and Bacon can have an Er\Hdos-Bacon number of 1. <-- i think you're missing the "joint paper" part... < 1299872825 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: the "films count" was used by someone fairly prominent or at least interesting. iirc. < 1299872854 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol: hey < 1299872856 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can uh.. < 1299872860 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :come twice < 1299872861 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you'd like < 1299872879 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: someone desperate to get low erdős-bacon numbers, obviously < 1299872881 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"It seems that older historic figures such as Leonhard Euler (born 1707) do not have finite Erdős numbers." --Wikipedia < 1299872884 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: HOW FUNNY I MADE THAT JOKE TOO < 1299872891 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it wasn't very low even counting that :D < 1299872901 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it was tongue in cheek, but then so are Erd\Hos numbers. < 1299872902 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: yes that may be < 1299872915 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: but you werent suggesting he actually cum on your face or other body parts < 1299872918 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or in them < 1299872919 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :soooo.. < 1299872925 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :augur: i said women though, so probably you automatically ignored the line < 1299872926 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :HAHA < 1299872927 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :moving on < 1299872934 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : tswett: It's Erdős, not Erdös. Erdős was Hungarian. <-- mind you hungarian does have ö as well, long vs. short vowel. < 1299872973 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Huh. < 1299872990 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Still, it explains ő being valid. < 1299872996 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah. < 1299873014 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :19:43:32 one thing that you wouldn't know: i have made two esoteric programming languages and i'm actually 15. < 1299873015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WOW < 1299873020 0 :ais523!~ais523@unaffiliated/ais523 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299873030 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, I've seen that name before. < 1299873033 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :basically hungarian puts ´ on any vowel to make it long, if there are dots already they get replaced with ´'s. < 1299873035 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric := GreaseMonkey < 1299873038 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi ais523 < 1299873083 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :applies to i, ö, ü < 1299873648 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@17.101.89.204 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299873648 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Changing host < 1299873648 0 :copumpkin!~pumpkin@unaffiliated/pumpkingod JOIN :#esoteric < 1299873669 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi elliott < 1299873720 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust slowpoke http://sprunge.us/hcQD < 1299873794 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :somehow I've got myself into a veritable OS dev rut. < 1299873805 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(anywhere I can't printf debug counts as a rut) < 1299873806 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i heard the ipad2 waiting line is real tough today < 1299873832 0 :pumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1299873852 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!c printf("%x\n", '/'); < 1299873867 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: grr < 1299873867 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Hungarian also seems to use the letter y as an accent (after the letter, rather than on top of it which would be bizarre) < 1299873871 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you made egobot go the slow! < 1299873875 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D y on top of the letter < 1299873877 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it hasn't even started processing slowpoke yet < 1299873885 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, slowpoke, despite its name, runs pretty quickly < 1299873887 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :okind of like e or u on top of the letter instead of diaeresis < 1299873888 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :much faster than waterfall3 < 1299873889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i forget which it was < 1299873890 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think u < 1299873892 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(historically) < 1299873892 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's for consonants, it uses lots of combined letters < 1299873894 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*kind < 1299873907 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: ly, gy, ny, sz < 1299873910 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gy and ty, but also sz, cs ... < 1299873922 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ty? are you sure? < 1299873928 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't remember seeing any of those when I actually went to Hungary < 1299873947 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm maybe i'm misremembering < 1299873949 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :THE KEY TO BECOMING AN EXPERT < 1299873971 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"The difference between and is that there is no . < 1299873971 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ever. < 1299873971 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Using causes all Web sites people see after yours to blink. Forever." < 1299874026 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :confusingly sz is what most other countries would consider s, while s is similar to english sh. < 1299874045 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is that a zzo38 quote? < 1299874050 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: indeed < 1299874052 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(remember that when pronouncing erdős) < 1299874056 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: err, no, that would be a terrible zzo38 quote < 1299874059 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's ``humour'' < 1299874066 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for English loanwords, they actually transliterate s into sz < 1299874072 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so you see shops marked "szupermarket" < 1299874127 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :szuzpzezrzmzazrzkzeztz < 1299874133 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh and zs < 1299874144 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1299874158 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well done < 1299874161 0 :EgoBot!~EgoBot@codu.org JOIN :#esoteric < 1299874164 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Read error: Connection reset by peer < 1299874174 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh come on < 1299874183 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it was halfway through running my relatively simple program, too < 1299874188 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust slowpoke http://sprunge.us/hcQD < 1299874189 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yeah, it's funny to hear people try to pronounce Riesz theorem < 1299874190 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299874191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :CHAINLANCE: EXCELLENT NON-BUGGY WIN < 1299874201 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it crashed EgoBot, i can be as sarcastic as i like now < 1299874268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: is its debug output as pretty as juiced? < 1299874271 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*juiced's? < 1299874273 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : it's ``humour'' <-- zzo38 sometimes says things which one might detect as humor. not necessarily what most people would consider humor, but humor nonetheless. and i think i've chuckled at some time. < 1299874282 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: the most prettiest. well it could be. < 1299874287 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yes but it's unintentional :) < 1299874292 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : Gregor: -rw-r--r-- 1 elliott elliott 0 2011-01-13 23:45 11.02.29 Gregor: hg fail // hg fail how? < 1299874297 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and wouldn't be punctuated in such a way as to draw attention to the humour < 1299874298 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, I don't see why we don't post all these BF Joust interps rather than posting them somewhere < 1299874299 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which the above does < 1299874302 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: your hg repo fail < 1299874307 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it created an empty 11.02.29 file < 1299874308 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or did clog :) < 1299874309 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: That's more like it :P < 1299874310 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no i mean he says things that are obviously _meant_ to be humor. < 1299874315 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: also, I don't see why we don't post all these BF Joust interps rather than posting them somewhere < 1299874316 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wait what < 1299874316 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Probably my repo. < 1299874325 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :umm, rather than keeping them secret < 1299874329 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's rare, but i'm sure i've seen it. < 1299874334 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: I have a strong feeling those are just bit-for-bit copies, or at least minor mutations < 1299874340 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :people who want to try to run BF Joust programs locally atm have no option but to write their own interp < 1299874344 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(of other ...humour) < 1299874353 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: err, chainlance is open source < 1299874355 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well < 1299874357 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i dunno if it has an actual license < 1299874367 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, I don't have a copy, nor any links to it < 1299874371 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unfortunately it sucks < 1299874375 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: that's your problem? < 1299874377 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you didn't exactly ask < 1299874379 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or logread < 1299874381 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did ask < 1299874385 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, nobody heard < 1299874389 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :could be < 1299874391 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://git.zem.fi/chainlance -- but it's so buggy, why would you :) < 1299874398 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for SCIENCE! < 1299874417 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps I'll write a LANCELANCE, that compiles them to ANSI PORTABLE C. < 1299874432 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's an HTML page < 1299874438 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: yeah, it's funny to hear people try to pronounce Riesz theorem <-- the trap here is you need to know whether the name is hungarian or polish, because polish uses s/sz in the exact opposite way < 1299874440 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just tried to wget it... < 1299874462 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION didn't actually know riesz was hungarian < 1299874466 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I'm not your personal web browser; you get to find the appropriate download link yourself. < 1299874472 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fair enough < 1299874480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's just that the link was misleading < 1299874489 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gitweb is hardly uncommon. < 1299874496 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :In this case it seems that there's no convenient tarball link. < 1299874500 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is < 1299874501 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I suspect git://git.zem.fi/chainlance may be right. < 1299874503 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :under "snapshot" < 1299874510 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, indeed. < 1299874522 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :But having a checkout of the git repository is more useful, as you can get new bugs fizzie introduces more conveniently. < 1299874523 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for ais523_slowpoke: 78.0 < 1299874523 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for ais523_slowpoke: 78.0 < 1299874534 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yikes < 1299874547 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :22 | + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + | 78.0 | 36.4 | 22 | ais523_slowpoke.bfjoust < 1299874550 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wow that's a good score < 1299874551 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: YOU'RE NOT AT THE TOP, BAN AIS523 < 1299874552 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Heh, it does better against allegro than any of my others < 1299874569 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Holy hell < 1299874572 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust elliott__ais523_waterfall3_1 < < 1299874576 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for elliott_elliott__ais523_waterfall3_1: 0.0 < 1299874579 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Well, waterfall3 had the same wins, just less score :-P < 1299874583 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TIME TO WRITE ANTISLOWPOKE < 1299874584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1299874586 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The all-+ row isn't new < 1299874589 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It'll get like 60 points just from beating it. < 1299874590 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :89? We're romped. < 1299874599 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Uhh, 78. < 1299874612 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :78 is still rather insane, given that allegro has 55 < 1299874625 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw, FFSPG /almost/ beats it < 1299874630 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: prepare for death by egojsout!!!!! < 1299874632 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it generally loses by around 20 clock cycles < 1299874688 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: [>] is bugged in egojsout < 1299874693 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, wait, no < 1299874725 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I doubt it, triplock3 uses and runs correctly there < 1299874728 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*uses it < 1299874737 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and waterfall3 embeds many copies of triplock3, and runs them sometimes < 1299874758 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, how can one generate [>], >[>], >>[>], etc. with ()%? < 1299874763 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It figures my computer would go bonkers right after I tpyo 78 as 89 X_X < 1299874766 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, actually that's wrong < 1299874768 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can't, I don't think < 1299874815 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION is wondering if the ie in riesz should actually be pronounced as two vowels or not < 1299874838 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it could be germanized, so just one < 1299874883 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: yeah < 1299874894 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"He had an uncommon method of giving lectures: he entered the lecture hall with an assistant and a docent. The docent then began reading the proper passages from Riesz's handbook and the assistant inscribed the appropriate equations on the blackboard—while Riesz himself stood aside, nodding occasionally." < 1299874899 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: Riesz is not a polish name tho :p < 1299874916 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :btw < 1299874924 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does this show up unstyled for y'all? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riesz-Fischer_theorem < 1299874931 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: yeah it looks like it could be either german or hungarian to me < 1299874943 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :german never has sz < 1299874950 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it would be Rieß < 1299874963 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: looks fine to me < 1299874973 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :trust the guy living in germany < 1299874984 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: i think sz is archaic german spelling, so might still hang on in names? < 1299874989 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :nope < 1299875012 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if it's in a name then it's a foreign name. < 1299875024 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :germans are very strict about their spelling < 1299875032 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :even names get strict spelling updates < 1299875048 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so what about that link oerjan :p < 1299875110 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1299875116 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: can you get [-[--[---[---[---? < 1299875121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with [-] in the middle < 1299875147 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :never mind < 1299875161 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: gah, antislowpoke is hard; anti space_elevator was easy :) < 1299875172 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: i said it was just fine. i think styles are separate files so might fail to load separately, try reloading. < 1299875184 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, weird < 1299875197 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :has happened to me before < 1299875198 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :sorry, i thought you said Riesz looks fine to you < 1299875215 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah the wird thing is that the style for all other pages in wikipedia works < 1299875217 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but for this one, no < 1299875220 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: well that is also true < 1299875235 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i have reloaded < 1299875237 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :multiple times < 1299875245 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cheater00: shift-reload? < 1299875271 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :o no, shift worked < 1299875278 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea, stupid firefox < 1299875330 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: well i can draw with slowpoke some of the time :D < 1299875346 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< < < < < = = = = = < = = = = < = = = = = < 1299875346 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :< < < < < > > > < < < < < < < < < < < < < < 1299875353 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : hmm, how can one generate [>], >[>], >>[>], etc. with ()%? <-- all uses of ()% expand to ()*...()* if you ignore [] matching < 1299875371 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1299875376 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i meant with nesting and stuff < 1299875383 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" unfortunately it sucks" " http://git.zem.fi/chainlance -- but it's so buggy [..]" " [...] you can get new bugs fizzie introduces more conveniently." ← are you trying to participate in some sort of "bitterest man on earth" competition here? < 1299875415 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: YES < 1299875420 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: You crashed EgoBot, you deserve it :-) < 1299875470 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : germans are very strict about their spelling <-- ok germans, but hungarians etc. might still use archaic spellings for names that are originally german. on the other hand as ais523 said hungarians do replace s by sz in loanwords so it might be that too. < 1299875481 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yea < 1299875504 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wonder if I can ignore only _quotes_... although replies would be good too and i already wrote that :) < 1299875508 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@conference/pycon/x-fhrxlyyqqnsnzjvz JOIN :#esoteric < 1299875514 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: REPORT < 1299875515 0 :cheater00!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but then germans replace S with Z in their pronounciation < 1299875533 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : i meant with nesting and stuff <-- i meant i don't see how to do it with plain ()* either. < 1299875540 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: right < 1299875544 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'm surrounded by... jythonistas. < 1299875555 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or, at least, people attending a talk about jython < 1299875556 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: it needs to be like... ((>)*n[>])*(n=100) :-D < 1299875568 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there seems to be less -ista here < 1299875583 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: those are javadroids :D < 1299875620 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : o no, shift worked <-- i believe shift causes it to ignore already cached content in case there's something wrong with it, while without shift doesn't if the page's modified date hasn't changed. < 1299875625 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the intersection between the two sets seems rather small < 1299875720 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there is like no one here. i was going to attend "extreme network programming in python" but it was really crowded and i forgot that i don't really care about low-level network protocols < 1299875798 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and i'm not entirely sure, but without shift might also be less clever about following included content. (this is all just my impression.) < 1299875897 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : ais523: well i can draw with slowpoke some of the time :D <-- haha < 1299875907 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: btw, optbot is back < 1299875907 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: i'll try think more about it now < 1299875929 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION thinks that was a zzo38 comment < 1299875955 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm guessing oklopol < 1299875971 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm could be < 1299875973 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's not zzo38 < 1299875974 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"i" < 1299875986 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol seems plausible, but it could also be any non-native speaker < 1299875997 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :05.06.07:14:09:02 i'll try think more about it now < 1299876000 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :like Keymaker. < 1299876004 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oklopol often seems quite implausible to me < 1299876022 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: HE DOESN'T REALLY EXIST < 1299876029 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's all a bug in reality < 1299876032 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, how come I didn't notice cpressey was here earlier despite him having made lots of comments already? < 1299876048 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: do an impromptu talk on esolangs; start it with announcing that you are "THE... yes, THE ... Chris Pressey". < 1299876051 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PlauseError: HE DOESN'T REALLY EXIST < 1299876053 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: he's at PyCon, dying < 1299876074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: when nobody applauses, throw something angrily and stomp off < 1299876076 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*applauds, < 1299876088 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: ... < 1299876095 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: come on, that's the best idea ever. < 1299876115 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no, not being here is the best idea ever < 1299876121 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: an applausible idea < 1299876124 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: second-best, then. < 1299876150 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: but it's the perfect setup for not being there afterward < 1299876160 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i could post a card on the board for an "Esolang BoF" and watch no one else show up < 1299876184 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bachelor of Furnaces? < 1299876191 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Buddy of Fucking? < 1299876197 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bastion of Ferventry? < 1299876219 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bestiality-only Family < 1299876220 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_a_Feather_(computing) lame < 1299876231 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Bankers of Franchises < 1299876244 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Backwards-ogling Fat-ass < 1299876265 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gonna stick with Bestiality-only Family < 1299876272 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's aaaaaaaall lame < 1299876277 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hm is feather slightly named after twoducks? < 1299876289 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i hope so but doubt it < 1299876309 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :PiFeathersPerDuck < 1299876315 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: ok, here's a less coherent idea: yell "ATTENTION EVERYBODY, THIS IS NOW AN UNCONFERENCE! That means you have to dance!", and start dancing < 1299876318 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :punch everyone who does not dance < 1299876331 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :now to increase my toxication levels to get something even better < 1299876350 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: ^ < 1299876362 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: no, it isn't < 1299876364 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yeah ais523 better admire my amazing lingotalk. < 1299876366 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :altohugh it might as well be < 1299876412 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :there's this fairy tale about the feather that turned into five hens < 1299876424 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :17:01:19 If you solve the game and make it so that the AI literally cannot lose, it's different. If you win, you suck, if you lose, you're brilliant. < 1299876424 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or if you win, you're *really* brilliant < 1299876489 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://hca.gilead.org.il/no_doubt.html < 1299876499 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Back < 1299876536 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: how big is your personal library? < 1299876553 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has all the books. < 1299876569 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it contains google < 1299876581 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oerjan: THE BIGGEST LIBRARY < 1299876601 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although i probably have the andersen fairy tales stored away somewhere physically too < 1299876603 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I wonder if there are more pages on Google than there are pages on the internet (discounting infinite page generators, other search engines) < 1299876610 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and not counting 0-result googles < 1299876621 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but counting every string that return something < 1299876621 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*paperally < 1299876628 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and _not_ assuming that google has crawled every single page) < 1299876650 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, almost certainly. < 1299876675 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: well right, because you have at least the number of words in the page that return that page < 1299876678 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so it blows up quite quickly :) < 1299876689 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, google indexes its own results pages < 1299876693 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The Googles: bigger than the internets. < 1299876697 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: well, not counting that. but does it really? < 1299876721 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Error 404 (Not Found)!!1" --title of Google's (new) 404 page < 1299876740 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowpoke's behavior looks stunningly similar to FFSPG :P < 1299876760 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as ais523 said, FFSPG almost wins < 1299876767 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, is almost equal < 1299876773 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :loses by about 20 cycles IIRC < 1299876773 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: no. i am lying freely < 1299876777 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Yeah, FFSPG is really close. < 1299876789 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Fix it, even if it makes it slightly worse on other programs, you'll get a shitload of points for it :P < 1299876793 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: NEEDS MOAR ELEVEN < 1299876797 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: 'struth. < 1299876803 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WEEKEND TIME < 1299876812 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: Although not in the fixed-point system I think. < 1299876813 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I could make it win by a lot rather than a little at the cost of performance against some other programs < 1299876827 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't actually notice how close it was until after the program was already finished < 1299876902 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=661 < 1299876904 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1299876979 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::-D < 1299876989 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :beautifully subtle < 1299877009 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Paul Simon looks so funny. < 1299877029 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: slowpoke was just designed around "let me make a deep-poke program", but it turned out quite similar < 1299877044 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :however, its decoy setup is rather different from FFSPG, it's a fundamentally different strategy there < 1299877047 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and its attack is different too < 1299877057 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Furry furry deep poking girls. < 1299877061 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or is that where the SP name comes from. < 1299877068 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it is, I think < 1299877109 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :was the original poke deep? < 1299877117 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no < 1299877124 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :howso? < 1299877131 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it stops as soon as it sees a nonzero cell < 1299877138 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah < 1299877143 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :how did it work? >:) < 1299877144 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :whereas FFSPG and slowpoke look for other values near zero too < 1299877145 0 :Mathnerd314!~mathnerd3@dsl.6.28.53.206.cos.dyn.pcisys.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299877159 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the idea of poke was to find the opponent's first decoy and set up nine squares from it < 1299877166 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :so as to be able to make more decoys, and attack sooner < 1299877187 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowpoke uses the poke to know where to start attacking, but it has different secondary purposes < 1299877200 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :for one, it tries to trip enemy tripwires < 1299877212 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :causing them to screw up their synchronization by starting too early < 1299877224 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Quick, make [insert type of train here]. < 1299877226 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and causing programs to think slowpoke is fast-rush and use an inappropriate response to it < 1299877248 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or use allegro as a transition to music names :P < 1299877319 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric : wow, sometimes you wonder how many people respobsible for POSIX get shot by disgruntled programmers 362'881 why are you asking? < 1299877338 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :^ this explains why POSIX sucks, it was designed by a /very large/ committee < 1299877355 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :rest in peace POSIX committee members. < 1299877358 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :actually, don't. < 1299877389 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: it was mostly defined by the ridonkulously huge committee of "every unix system vendor and hackers thereof" < 1299877401 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::) < 1299877404 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust train (>)*8(>[-][-])*21 < 1299877410 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_train: 16.6 < 1299877416 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Happy? < 1299877424 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Does it beat slowpoke? < 1299877434 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders what a war between the Integrated Data Sentient Entity and an aware Haruhi would be like. < 1299877435 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Some of the time < 1299877441 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Of course, that would destroy the premise < 1299877441 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :only on short tapes? < 1299877443 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Insufficient. < 1299877448 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Yes < 1299877457 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION wonders how much thought has been put into clockwork computing. < 1299877457 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :slowpoke can't beat fast rush programs on tapes shorter than 14 or so, unless it's lucky < 1299877469 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Not enough. < 1299877472 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i guess this one's next --> http://us.pycon.org/2011/schedule/presentations/137/ < 1299877482 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i'll let you know if it's actually interesting :) < 1299877483 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: YESSS < 1299877485 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1299877491 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :by a reverend no less! < 1299877496 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :XD < 1299877498 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :wasn't the Analytical Engine clockwork? < 1299877518 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :My children, let us consider the theological implications of Guido van Rossum. < 1299877527 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Is he the Messiah born again? < 1299877536 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've seen ++variable as a useful trick < 1299877543 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: did you notice that I slightly tweaked waterfall3 to beat your copy of it, btw? < 1299877551 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nope :) < 1299877561 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: i removed my copy < 1299877563 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I couldn't resist < 1299877565 0 :pikhq!~pikhq@71-219-199-15.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299877565 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and no you didn't < 1299877567 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(my (remaining) copy) < 1299877568 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you gave the wrong name < 1299877568 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I did < 1299877576 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1299877576 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: You didn't specify that, you just wanted a train. < 1299877577 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :...thanks for telling me! < 1299877582 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I specify it now. < 1299877583 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :30 | + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + - + + + + + + - + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + | 53.4 | 24.6 | 30 | elliott__ais523_waterfall3_1.bfjoust < 1299877584 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :31 | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | 0.0 | -47.0 | 31 | elliott_elliott__ais523_waterfall3_1.bfjoust < 1299877592 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust _ais523_waterfall3_1 < < 1299877603 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lesson: don't ever have a nick X_Y if someone has the nick X. < 1299877606 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for elliott__ais523_waterfall3_1: 0.0 < 1299877607 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Where's the interpreter that's currently used on the hill < 1299877616 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: http://git.zem.fi/home-of-bugs/ < 1299877622 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Or "chainlance", you decide.) < 1299877647 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, I can't think of any way to tweak waterfall3 to beat slowpoke < 1299877675 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: If I figure out how to do an antislowpoke, maybe it'll revive the hill strategy set a bit :) < 1299877675 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :other than detecting it (not too hard) and switching to a strategy designed specifically to beat it < 1299877682 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :interior_crocodile_alligator was surprisingly interesting. < 1299877697 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: it was, it actually inspired me to invent the triplock < 1299877705 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I didn't invent it, Gregor did < 1299877708 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :mostly it's because anti- programs don't really do anything logical < 1299877710 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but it inspired me to remember it existed < 1299877714 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which tends to confuse anything that does any thinking < 1299877737 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://esolangs.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Brainfuck&curid=1138&diff=21473&oldid=21035 SOME KINDLY RUSSIAN PLEASE RESPOND < 1299877740 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, I think timing-based defence (defend9, etc) is more or less dead nowadays < 1299877786 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: {chain,crank,gear}lance? < 1299877818 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: It's the one that doesn't do any statistics output. < 1299877843 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: what does defend8mwahahaha or whatever it's called do? < 1299877844 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"Carmack: Direct3D is now better than OpenGL" What joy. < 1299877854 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I tended to defeat it by accident too much, and never really looked into it < 1299877859 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I have nooooooo idea < 1299877868 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I probably just tweaked it randomly < 1299877872 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :scores were nondeterministic back then < 1299877875 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(note: slowpoke wasn't tweaked to defeat anything particular, apart from one of the trains, and that was just a bugfix) < 1299877893 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(although I think I continued by tweaking it to beat one of the programs it was already beating more convincingly) < 1299877902 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does anyone here know nasm? < 1299877953 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :gah < 1299877961 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :0f5c != (0x0f00 | '\\') < 1299877962 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@conference/pycon/x-ddioiopwwfuvfxap JOIN :#esoteric < 1299877962 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in nasm :/ < 1299877964 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :why?! < 1299877977 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hi cpressey-essey < 1299878074 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Is nasm part of the everything you're an expert in? < 1299878080 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(Yes, I looked at the manual. :p) < 1299878103 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've only really used fasm < 1299878148 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, how thoroughly *weird*. < 1299878158 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'\' is how you do a backslash. < 1299878164 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'\\' is interpreted as a string, and packed into a word. < 1299878170 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: plz2be fix nasm mode to handle '\' :P < 1299878291 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust antislowpoke (>)*8(>++[-])*21 < 1299878293 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_antislowpoke: 13.1 < 1299878304 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: Happy? < 1299878337 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Does it work? :P < 1299878344 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It beats slowpoke < 1299878362 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Not always, but more often than not < 1299878639 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :speaker mentioned brainfuck! < 1299878649 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and is in fact introducing it. < 1299878697 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(he's getting to implementing it entirely using decorators) < 1299878759 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :stateful decorators. < 1299878917 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::D < 1299878923 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :cpressey: Ask for Funge-98. < 1299878930 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::trollface: < 1299878950 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, a reverend saying fuck?! *gasp* < 1299878973 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't say its name, and his slide said "BRAINF*CK" < 1299879015 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :lame < 1299879017 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :boycott < 1299879046 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Expertise in fasm should carry over to nasm. < 1299879086 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What with it being an masm-esque assembler. < 1299879152 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: how do you do a single single quote? '''? < 1299879171 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: no idea < 1299879175 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but probably < 1299879199 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Why not, '' is invalid, after all < 1299879207 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: not necessarily true < 1299879209 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'abcd' is a valid word < 1299879225 0 :Mathnerd314!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 252 seconds < 1299879226 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :'' would just mean 0 and thus isn't very necessary < 1299879816 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 250 seconds < 1299880021 0 :pikhq_!~pikhq@71-219-218-156.clsp.qwest.net JOIN :#esoteric < 1299880036 0 :pikhq!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 248 seconds < 1299880121 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor, http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/218476/top-story-katamari-hack-will-destroy-your-productivity/ < 1299880132 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sorry, WebSplat is no longer the coolest. < 1299880159 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :WebSplatamari Damacy < 1299880174 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It has multiplayer, the one thing Gregor was too stupid to do! < 1299880175 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ... damn, hard to compete with that. < 1299880204 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :SO IMPOSSIBLE TO DO WITH A LAPTOP < 1299880209 0 :cpressey!~cpressey@conference/pycon/x-kmjhrspgvskftrlx JOIN :#esoteric < 1299880295 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OMFH < 1299880299 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*OMFG < 1299880303 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :MUST PLAY ON HAVENWORKS < 1299880314 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOOOO < 1299880317 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IT'S GONE < 1299880796 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :LOTS OF CAPS IN THIS CHANNEL LATELY < 1299880797 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ais523, Deewiant: nasm does escape characters (with a quite traditional set of escapes) when you put the string in backquotes; so `\\` would do a backslash too. And I think the official way how you do a single quote is "'". (".." and '..' are completely equivalent, except you can put 's inside ""s and vice versa; and `..` works otherwise the same except enables those escapes.) < 1299880819 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: But nasm-mode fails at '\'! :p < 1299880822 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :And it's YOUUUURS < 1299880833 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: havenworks is gone < 1299880833 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh god < 1299880834 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: < 1299880835 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: < 1299880837 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :put up your mirro < 1299880839 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :r < 1299880852 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :... uh oh < 1299880858 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I didn't make a mirror of havenworks :P < 1299880885 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Gregor: you said you did! < 1299880887 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ooh, can't wait for december < 1299880906 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I did? Then I guess I did :P < 1299880911 0 :Gregor!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I just don't remember :P < 1299880995 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: hmm, egostats hasn't updated like you said you were going to < 1299881023 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :he didn't say would just could iirc < 1299881038 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I thought he said he was going to add slowpoke to it while EgoBot was down < 1299881043 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to get in first, or something < 1299881046 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it massively matters < 1299881070 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I think I said "perhaps I should", or some such matters. < 1299881075 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ah, perhaps < 1299881082 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Since it's now officially in, I think I'll just hg pull. < 1299881186 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It takes awfully long to draw those per-program plots; I was thinking of just exporting the data as json and doing most of the graphics client-side, at least for per-program (or maybe even per-match, though I guess egojsout is a better platform for that) visualizations. < 1299881204 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust antislowpoke (>)*8(>++[-]---)*21 < 1299881244 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: heh, that probably does work < 1299881256 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's already a working one up < 1299881276 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :does it beat it in all configurations? < 1299881280 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a real anti- program does < 1299881288 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust antislowpoke < < 1299881293 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I expect so, yes < 1299881293 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust NOTAREALantislowpoke (>)*8(>++[-]---)*21 < 1299881299 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :or not. < 1299881306 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :<<<<<<>><<<<<<<<<<><< <<<<<<<><<<<<<<<<><>><<<<>><<<< <<<<<<<><X<X< 20 < 1299881515 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So what's a good clear loop these days? :P < 1299881520 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[-] < 1299881525 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Lame < 1299881530 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you can steal the one from slowpoke if you like < 1299881539 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: to use in antislowpoke? brilliant < 1299881541 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although I think it can actually be marginally improved to do better versus shudder < 1299881555 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what is it? I haven't read slowpoke < 1299881562 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/in_egobot/ais523_slowpoke.bfjoust < 1299881562 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I do antis purely on traces < 1299881567 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: that doesn't show me the clear loop < 1299881570 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it has multiple loops < 1299881574 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use 'em all < 1299881578 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :What. < 1299881586 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :((+)*9[-[-([-[-{[...+[...+]]>}]][+--[+--]]>(+)*9)%1000]]>)*21 is the clear loop < 1299881592 0 :iconmaster!~iconmaste@209.150.235.10 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299881596 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, it'd be interesting to see how that does on its own < 1299881633 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, if you want to beat slowpoke, specialcase the tape values +/- 2, 30, 32, 98 < 1299881635 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust (>)*8(>(+)*9[-[-([-[-{[...+[...+]]>}]][+--[+--]]>(+)*9)%1000]]>)*22 < 1299881638 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Use: !bfjoust . Scoreboard, programs, and a description of score calculation are at http://codu.org/eso/bfjoust/ < 1299881646 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust camber (>)*8(>(+)*9[-[-([-[-{[...+[...+]]>}]][+--[+--]]>(+)*9)%1000]])*22 < 1299881646 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :EgoBot: you mean *21 at the end < 1299881652 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: nope, see start of loop < 1299881654 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which i changed < 1299881659 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :not that it'll matter, that clear loop is incapable of falling off the tape anyway < 1299881662 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and yes, it's *8 *21 < 1299881666 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you move the > to the start < 1299881670 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :as you want to move at most 29 times < 1299881696 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh dear, egojoust has got muddled again < 1299881700 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: is slowpoke's loop any good if you remove the (+)*9? < 1299881703 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you two should both submit your program again < 1299881708 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: that's an offset < 1299881709 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you two? < 1299881714 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh, Deewiant's < 1299881716 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you and Deewiant < 1299881718 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust camber (>)*8(>(+)*9[-[-([-[-{[...+[...+]]>}]][+--[+--]]>(+)*9)%1000]])*22 < 1299881720 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: yes, but a slow offset < 1299881736 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, you can change it to an offset clear or non-offset clear or whatever < 1299881740 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but who uses non-offset clears these days? < 1299881764 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what I will say is that against slowpoke, the optimal offset size is probably either 2 or 30, or maybe 32 < 1299881764 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :innovators!! < 1299881797 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :your clear is lame, it does badly on your own decoys < 1299881836 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well, that clear is incredibly inflexible < 1299881846 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it just beats defence programs trivially < 1299881851 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ISTR my interior_crocodile_alligator one being okay < 1299881857 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION checks < 1299881860 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :no existing defence program, or even existing defence /strategy/, will work well against it < 1299881870 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I've thought of a couple that might < 1299881876 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: what about "assume opponent is using perfect RNG"? < 1299881880 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but I fear they'd be rather detail-dependent < 1299881882 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, kinda hard to counter :P < 1299881886 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: and how do you lock that? < 1299881889 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: magic < 1299881904 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :grr, in_egobot isn't loading < 1299881909 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :you use your own perfect RNG with your same seed, that might work < 1299881920 0 :variable!~variable@unaffiliated/variable JOIN :#esoteric < 1299881922 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :what kind of perfect RNG has a seed? < 1299881936 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :well. < 1299881941 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :i suppose it makes sense. kinda. < 1299881941 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :a reproducible perfect RNG, ofc < 1299881950 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :being reproducible is generally good in an RNG < 1299881951 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :if you had a functional definition (which would have to be infinitely-long) < 1299881954 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :especially if you have an infinite seedspace < 1299881956 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*infinitely long < 1299881961 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I mean, if you allow arbitrary real numbers as seeds < 1299881971 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :then everything is just fine < 1299881976 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :heh < 1299881980 0 :HackEgo!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1299881988 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :at least it's not egobot < 1299882003 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :anyway, it might be interesting if BF Joust had a nested loop limit < 1299882012 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :in order to remove timer clear strategies < 1299882016 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that is, if they prove to hurt the gameplay < 1299882080 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :oh wow < 1299882084 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I forgot ICA's clear is insane < 1299882095 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :[-[++[(-)*128([-{([+{[-]}])%64}])%64]]] < 1299882099 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and very culnerable to triplocks < 1299882102 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*vulnerable < 1299882106 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :So culnerable. < 1299882109 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :very very very vulnerable to triplocks < 1299882119 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :it's also very slow < 1299882121 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :triplocking works against programs with three or more ] in a row < 1299882126 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :and that program has, umm, 129? < 1299882168 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm < 1299882176 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(admittedly, they have to be actually executed for the lock to work, and at the right moment) < 1299882184 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but they would be in that clear < 1299882191 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the triplock is IIRC how waterfall3 beats ICA < 1299882193 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :http://tourdelisp.blogspot.com/2008/03/lisper-first-look-at-haskell.html < 1299882202 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This is the most amusingly pretentious thing ever. < 1299882210 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :also, ICA is an acronym I use all the time in my day job (idealized concurrent algol) so seeing it in this context is weird < 1299882222 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: I hope you don't use CMT too. < 1299882226 0 :augur!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1299882251 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't < 1299882263 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: Good. < 1299882263 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :that one's used a lot on certain Internet forums < 1299882268 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :but not by me, and it's not so much of a jar < 1299882272 0 :poiuy_qwert!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: This computer has gone to sleep < 1299882281 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :hmm, standing for what < 1299882305 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yay for ([+{}])%n < 1299882318 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :the silliest thing ever < 1299882318 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :"check my thread" < 1299882328 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :err, that sounds like a really irritating gthing to say < 1299882338 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: It's also Independent Component Analysis, a blind source separation thing our lab's been involved in; somewhat known in the "cocktail party problem" context. < 1299882339 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which in trading forums, translates to "you have something I want, look at what I have to see if there's something you want too" < 1299882353 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :looks like egojsout doesn't handle {} < 1299882365 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I'm relatively sure it does < 1299882371 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :time to troll fizzie a bit < 1299882376 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: voice input is useless < 1299882394 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I don't think I'm up to the "no it's not" repetition this time, sowwy. < 1299882398 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric ::( < 1299882418 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: so can your system understand that "sowwy" is sorry < 1299882421 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :OR IS IT TOO THE DUMBS < 1299882423 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, what do you actually *do*? < 1299882433 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: "Stuff." < 1299882434 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Kills kittens for fun and profit. < 1299882435 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I know you taught Java a year ago or so. < 1299882446 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I lie; he's a professional IRCer. < 1299882449 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: err, ais523 was the javateacher < 1299882453 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(and still is, I think) < 1299882455 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I haven't really taught Java; that's more of an ais523 thing. < 1299882456 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :indeed < 1299882471 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523 just kills young CSers' minds for profit! < 1299882473 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :this month's exercise is effectively "recreate Zork" < 1299882476 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(I kid, I kid, they probably deserve it.) < 1299882480 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :although it's not me that set it < 1299882486 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: I'm trying to improve the average skill of Java programmers < 1299882486 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an ICA poster on the wall in a nearby corridor at work; it's really quite a cheat. < 1299882489 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which admittedly isn't difficult < 1299882492 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ais523: not exactly the worst exercise in the world < 1299882498 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott, ISTR him marking Java programs a while ago... < 1299882503 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: ais523. < 1299882508 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :unless you mean the bot tournament < 1299882509 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :thing < 1299882513 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Possibly. < 1299882516 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :which is the most interesting thing i know nothing about. < 1299882556 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: The AI tournament uses Java, right, but that's just my "side job"; it's not even our department's course. < 1299882565 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, so what *do* you do? < 1299882588 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :IRCs. < 1299882595 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :He summarises #esoteric every day. < 1299882601 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Noise-robustness for speechy stuff, in the most general sense. < 1299882602 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Unfortunately they're under an NDA. < 1299882609 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie: Yeah, yeah, your cover story. < 1299882616 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Nobody would ever REALLY work on something so pointless. < 1299882628 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, is it capable of comprehending the Scottish accent? < 1299882637 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :NOT EVEN HUMANS ARE CAPABLE OF THAT < 1299882647 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_NOTAREALantislowpoke: 14.2 < 1299882647 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_foo: 4.2 < 1299882647 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_antislowpoke: 0.0 < 1299882647 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_antislowpoke: 0.0 < 1299882647 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for elliott_camber: 19.6 < 1299882647 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for elliott_camber: 19.6 < 1299882651 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Thar we go < 1299882652 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Whoa. < 1299882668 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust foo < < 1299882674 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_foo: 0.0 < 1299882695 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust NOTAREALantislowpoke (>)*8(>++[-]---)*21 < 1299882698 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_NOTAREALantislowpoke: 14.8 < 1299882705 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, why is Suzumiya Haruhi trying to teach me math? < 1299882708 0 :ais523!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Remote host closed the connection < 1299882717 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :fizzie, YOUR SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES < 1299882733 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Phantom_Hoover: Our system's been evaluated mostly for Finnish, really. I don't think anyone in our group is doing English dialects. < 1299882759 0 :fizzie!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The acoustics lab guys have some sort of "recognize speech when the speaker's yelling" thing, I think that's curious enough. < 1299882777 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That's a start. < 1299882931 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: Cause that's susùmiyaharuhinoyûutu for you. < 1299882953 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I think... there might be an issue with this piece of math though < 1299882964 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There seems to be an undeserved assumption < 1299882973 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, WHAT IS IT < 1299883054 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :With the house with the Planar Graph Theorem thing, it should be impossible to determine whether x=vertices and z=sides (as assumed by Koizumi) or x=sides and z=vertices < 1299883107 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :!bfjoust ALMOSTantislowpoke +(>)*8(>[++[-]]+)*21 < 1299883125 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, what does koisùmi know about math anyways? :P < 1299883155 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(or is it koitùmi?) < 1299883155 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That beats allegro too, ugh < 1299883161 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, am I mistaken? < 1299883190 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Ah, it's koisùmi. < 1299883200 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Damned ambiguities in kana. < 1299883217 0 :EgoBot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Score for Deewiant_ALMOSTantislowpoke: 19.2 < 1299883235 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :(sù and tù are pronounced *exactly the same*, and often get romanised the same.) < 1299883389 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: <<<<<<<><<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<><<<<<<<<<<<<< 38, feel free to fix it. < 1299883399 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: I'm already working on my own. :p < 1299883416 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, answer me! (please) < 1299883437 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo: I don't know why susùmiyaharuhi is trying to teach you math at all! < 1299883464 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :pikhq_, so I'm likely to just be correct in this matter? < 1299883476 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Perhaps. < 1299883479 0 :pikhq_!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Or perhaps not. < 1299883533 0 :cpressey!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 255 seconds < 1299883851 0 :jcp!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Ping timeout: 276 seconds < 1299883859 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Sgeo, is it that an Euler characteristic doesn't change if you swap faces and vertices? < 1299883945 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :The equation in the book certainly seemed to be saying that < 1299883965 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :It doesn't. < 1299884007 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Proof is left to the reader. < 1299884201 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Aha! < 1299884214 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :I found a video of someone singing "Lemon Tree"! < 1299884224 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Now I can sing Stan Kelly-Bootle's version! < 1299884256 0 :jcp!alex@bzflag/contributor/javawizard2539 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299884547 0 :oerjan!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: leaving < 1299885721 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | which is not the same thing as Windows Services for UNIX, based on the Interix subsystem < 1299885852 0 :copumpkin!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Computer has gone to sleep. < 1299885891 0 :FireFly!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: swatted to death < 1299886103 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886103 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | your parents should add a filter < 1299886106 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886106 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | hm < 1299886108 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886108 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | [22:51:47] virsys [n=virsys@or-67-232-64-36.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit IRC: Read error: 60 (Operation timed out) < 1299886110 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886110 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | │ │ (0x1000000) Alignment value to which kernel should be aligned │ │ < 1299886112 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886112 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | A bit silly to have to open a Chromium for web browsing when the while thing is Chromium < 1299886115 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886115 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | ais523, it is 20" btw < 1299886116 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886116 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | well exactly, people read "strcmp foo bar" and think foo==bar < 1299886118 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886119 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | Oh, if it's a shell/dispatcher thingy, that's not too bad. < 1299886121 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886121 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | Ibwasnt running much < 1299886122 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886123 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | Phantom_Hoover, it was like in the lab recently. Some prankster had taken all the female-female-serial-cable-converters and hooked them up into something that was almost a complete circle < 1299886127 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886127 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | I wish that web browsers would do justified text rendering, though... < 1299886129 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886130 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | If Station V3 actually had a website, it would probably suck me into a dimensional portal or something < 1299886132 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886132 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | u < 1299886133 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886133 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | any non-variable merely advances the ip < 1299886135 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886135 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | dependent on your logic that might _be_ an axiom. < 1299886136 0 :Deewiant!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott < 1299886146 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Deewiant: Hey, advancing optbot repeatedly is Traditoin. < 1299886147 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :elliott: oh, and y should tell the program which is the case? < 1299886148 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :*Tradition. < 1299886149 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886149 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | Set one awsistor to 1 and a different one to 0 for 1, and visa versa for 0, and send a pulse when something changes? < 1299886151 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Rust uses reference counting for immutable stuff, and GC for mutable stuff < 1299886153 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :optbot! < 1299886153 0 :optbot!unknown@unknown.invalid TOPIC #esoteric :logs: http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/esoteric/?C=M;O=D and http://208.78.103.223/esoteric/ | Is good. < 1299886156 0 :elliott!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :yes! < 1299886158 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :That makes a twisted kind of sense. < 1299886418 0 :poiuy_qwert!~poiuy_qwe@unaffiliated/poiuy-qwert/x-0506151 JOIN :#esoteric < 1299886582 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Oh, the FAQ may be out of date < 1299886593 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :There's an immutable later, a state layer, and a gc layer < 1299886689 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :ACTION → sleep < 1299886692 0 :Phantom_Hoover!unknown@unknown.invalid QUIT :Quit: Leaving < 1299886849 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :" These < 1299886849 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :notations are marked using a special form of bracketing, such that a reader unfamiliar < 1299886849 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :with the extension can still parse the surrounding text by skipping over the bracketed < 1299886849 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :extension text" < 1299886854 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :This puts me in a good mood < 1299887094 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Tutorial < 1299887096 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :TODO. < 1299887289 0 :Sgeo!unknown@unknown.invalid PRIVMSG #esoteric :Hmm, prove is a keyword < 1299887436 0 :azaq23!~derivecto@unaffiliated/azaq23 JOIN :#esoteric